[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:57 PM Ori Livneh wrote: > If we're collecting exemplars, I'd like to add Bartosz > Ciechanowski's superlative articles , > like the ones on bicycles and sound > . His

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Announcement] Establishment of Wikimedians of the Asia Pacific User Group

It's good to have ambitions, but a user group that strives to span 25 countries (between them containing maybe half of the Earth's population) while currently has 8 members is maybe a bit too ambitious. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list --

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Reflecting on my listening tour

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 7:49 AM AntiCompositeNumber < anticompositenum...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed. It has long been the case that infrastructure critical to the > operation of the various wikis has been left without a clear > maintainer, or has been maintained only in the volunteer time of a >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

Just to give a sense of scale: OpenAI started with a $1 billion donation, got another $1B as investment, and is now getting a larger investment from Microsoft (undisclosed but rumored to be $10B). Assuming they spent most of their previous funding, which seems likely, their operational costs are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 8:22 AM Samuel Klein wrote: > + Automatic translation of discussions is essential, tangibly useful for > our communities, and very satisfying. > --> how can we bring this to Mediawiki? This is a core question for > community health, movement development, and tech. It

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum community review

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 12:52 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Even if you don't want mediawiki for various reasons, you can set it up in > Wikimedia Cloud. We already hosted Discourse there for years. > Cloud is 1) not exactly an improvement

[Wikimedia-l] Re: WIKIMOVE Episode #2- Share news from your affiliate and ask questions to our guests in our next podcast

Thank you for fostering conversations around movement strategy! Are there any plans to make the content accessible to standard podcast players (e.g. Google Podcasts)? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Collection / Special:Book usage

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:14 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > We may differ in what was first: abandoning it or closing it, but the > process is available at phabricator. > What was first was regular production incidents caused by OCG, which would have required a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Collection / Special:Book usage

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 11:04 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The problem is not that it was "Just one of the things that died out > because no-one could be bothered to maintain it", it is worse: it was > broken on purpose, and not recovered, because the WMF decided

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming the first round of grants from the Equity Fund

One can argue about whether it was a good idea to give 15% of the Foundation's annual grant budget to largely-unrelated charities as a snap reaction to a wave of US political protests. But assuming it was - this happened in the middle of the pandemic, with the WMF operating on extremely restricted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:44 AM Chris Keating wrote: > There's a campaign(1) for nonprofits to disclose the salaries, or at least > salary ranges, on job ads. > (...) > I know practices vary within the movement - I believe the WMF never > mentions salaries on ads, and I don't know whether the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Foundation and affiliates disclosing salaries on job ads & the effect of this on workplace equity

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:25 AM Gnangarra wrote: > I'd hope that the WMF when hiring people in what was considered third world > or in areas of socially deprived wages that it would pay at least to US > standards as a matter of principle that employees doing similar jobs should > basically be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid API?

You can find some more discussion at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_3/Promote_Sustainability_and_Resilience#Freemium As I mentioned there, the premise of the recommendation is that the movement needs new revenue sources; in part

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Practical implications of Coronavirus

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Fæ wrote: > Separately I prefer Google hangouts for a very bad internet connection > (under 10 mb/s) which is more forgiving than Zoom or Skype as it seems > to be better at brown-out conditions. Google hangouts is probably a > bit easier for the average volunteer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Recommendations released, join the conversation

Hi Todd, On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 8:06 PM Todd Allen wrote: > These are very disappointing. It does not seem like a bit of the feedback > on earlier versions was taken into consideration at all. Can we expect > anything we say to matter this time around, or will we once again be > talking to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Face recognition

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 3:55 PM John Erling Blad wrote: > People on another forum says portraits are personal data and use of > them is a breach of Art. 6 GDPR Lawfulness of processing. This creates > a problem in most European countries. This is a breach of privacy > laws, and not a copyright

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF C-level turnover

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 10:34 AM Strainu wrote: > Are there any public informations on the C-level average duration of > employment and turnover levels in WMF compared to other NGOs and/or > companies in the Bay area? > Past and present C-levels can be found at [1] (since 2016) and [2] (until

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:40 AM mathieu lovato stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > - Matrix http://matrix.org/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(communication_protocol) > > > My experience with the two

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Pixel tracking by Wikimedia

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:43 AM Fæ wrote: > It would be much appreciated if anyone can provide a link to an > official statement given by the WMF that pixel tracking is used on its > sites outside of fundraising banners, or its supplier's sites, and any > example cases or reports of where it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:39 PM Alex Monk wrote: > On 10 July 2018 at 12:06, Bodhisattwa Mandal > wrote: > > > 1) Not all communities have been informed about this future change ( > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Distribution_list/Technical_Village_Pumps_ > > distribution_list > > ) > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Time to simplify the Bureaucracy ?

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:16 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > The discussions about declining editor levels started to go quiet in mid > 2015 after we noticed that numbers had started to rally at the end of 2014. > The numbers for English Wikipedia, you mean. For the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for advises regarding a public conference about the Wikimedia movement on the topic "Dissemination of Knowledge: What Limits" [Fwd: Re: Conférence Wikipédia]

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:32 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Also I'm wondering where I could find the nice blue or green background > that I see used in many first page of Wikimedia presentations > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brand > Presentations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > "The nerve of these women, to think that they can write encyclopedia > articles on women who must inherently be non-notable! There's nothing to > write about here." > > That's basically what your email says. No

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > I cant believe this > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_ > in_Red/The_World_Contest > has got WMF funding, the idea of trying to create 100,000 stub articles on > english wikipedia without any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defamation of Wikipedia in a Telugu (te) Motion Picture

It looks like the publisher created a hoax/in-universe article about the main character of the movie, which is what the trailer is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete=Theda+Singh=20170820143048 Not cool but still not a defamation.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

Making a bunch of unsupported and mostly unrelated accusations of bad faith is usually not a great way of raising support for your grant request. Long rants about how more money would be needed without even a hint of what that money would be used for are also unhelpful. I recommend letting this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Now that we have ascertained (again) that wikimedia-l is a ​poor channel for focused discussions about tech proposals, can we move this to Phabricator? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Widespread perfomance issues

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote: > At Wikimedia Italia have been contacted in the last few minutes because > Wikipedia seems unreachable and very slow from Italy. > > The status pages for servers and services signals several perfomance > issues: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Dan Garry wrote: > The size of your app can significantly reduce downloads [1]. > [1]: https://segment.com/blog/mobile-app-size-effect-on-downloads/ That article seems super sketchy. They took a 3MB app, increased it to 100MB+, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W wrote: > As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could coordinate > its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a > predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+ >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

This is one of those cool ideas which seem really obvious, but only in hindsight. Thanks! ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Todd Allen wrote: > I'm not a German speaker, and I know context and nuance can be lost in > machine translation. That being said, the one about someone who was > offering attribution and then got slapped with a bill for a simple > technical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki < steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote: > Apart from that, i see a big COI - the staffer in question is voting at > the voting sections, striking out votes, defending the code of conduct and > the he is marking a section as "consensus". Imho the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Adrian Raddatz wrote: > A lack of other community members participation is perhaps half on a lack > of advertising, and half on a lack of interest. > The drafting process was advertised to the point of obnoxiousness. I count 30 announcements

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

After the ban was announced, StackOverflow founder Joel Spolsky posted an impassioned call to arms [1] to Meta Stack Overflow (the StackOverflow equivalent of MetaWiki/wikimedia-l). The community was not happy and a closing discussion was started. In the end the orginial post was closed and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] DEITYBOUNCE and reader logs (was Re: Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer)

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:19 PM, James Salsman wrote: > > Also I would like to know what "Orwellian philosophy" is > http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01211002 From the paper (you can find download links with minimal effort): "*George Orwell tells us of a language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why don't we have a warrant canary?

You might be looking for the transparency report: https://transparency.wikimedia.org/privacy.html#summary ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for the admin of CentralNotice on meta

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am looking for the admin of CentralNotice on meta. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Request > > Anyone knows who that might be ? Please ? > Are you looking for the list of CN

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A new Wikipedia fork: InfoGalactic

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:13 AM, David Gerard wrote: > "INFOGALACTIC: an online encyclopedia without bias or thought police" > > Home page: http://infogalactic.com/info/Main_Page > Announcement: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/10/project-big-fork- > infogalactic.html >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

Hi Fae, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Fæ wrote: > Not tricky at all. There are *plenty* of other similar organizations > that have elections for their trustees to their boards, including > several Wikimedia chapters/affiliates where their boards have oversite > of many

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Executive transition planning

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 7:54 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Removing a roof without also having a plan for an interim roof is a really amateur mistake. Not really if the roof was radioactive, and on fire. It is entirely a matter of priorities - is it more urgent to fix a situation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Jimmy Wales' potential conflict of loyalties for Wikia Inc. versus WMF

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Fæ wrote: > The original vision for Wikia was as a "Google-killer" open search engine, so it would seem highly prudent for Jimmy to have declared a conflict of interest and avoided WMF board discussions and votes in relation to new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Post mortems

One example of the shortcomings of emails as a medium for complex discussions is how this thread about postmortems continues to be diverted into discussions about Facebook, despite Pete's best efforts. At the end of the day, people will prefer tools that work well over tools that align

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

Okay, this is stepping over several lines. Can we stick to basic human decency if nothing else? :( No one is helped by making vicious personal attacks over assumed interpretations. Let's try to represent the movement's values (including civility, and, if not the assumption of good faith, then at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Do you think there is something "shameful" about Wikipedia using the > Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License? > > And if that isn't shameful, why would it be shameful if Wikidata used the > same

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Constants and Low-Interest Posts to the Wikimedia Announcement Newsletter

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Pete how do you know that Shlomi is the only one who appreciates such posts > in this way? His point is more relevant than yours because he has a point > that may be of relevance to many and yours is only a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] TPP - copyright

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I don't see anything in the TPP requiring retroactive application of > copyright terms. We'll have to wait and see how the various countries > choose to apply the new terms. Applying terms retroactively is uncommon, >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, if this legislation were to pass in Europe, and (for example) an American tourist took a photograph of a covered building in Europe and posted it when he or she arrived back in the U.S., would it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I agree an example of what Wikipedia would look like if this regulation passed is an excellent idea. Could we base it on the geo tags? It could be quite hard to figure out what exactly is affected (which is one of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: I would actually say: Is there a point to have a prescriptive work without ND clause? Course there is. The text of the CC licenses, for example, is under CC0; Creative Commons is trademarked and that trademark is used to