Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
I agree with Bence. Right now, offsetting is cheap, likely 1-2 percentage points of the cost of travel. Those money could be asked directly in the grant to the WMF, for example, because offsetting several tonnes in bulk is probably cheaper than doing it person by person. But carbon offsetting is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fallout from 2018 Wikimedian of the Year announcement

2019-01-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
Il giorno mer 29 ago 2018 19:56 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <> ha scritto: > Dear colleagues, > > Since yesterday all subdomains hosted @ (including > websites of the, the Cabinet >,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Israel joins the nationwide strike to protest the exclusion of gay couples the right to become parents

2018-07-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi all, I'll ask forgiveness in advance for starting a probable flame. I support WMIL stance: equity is absolutely within our Wikimedia values, and supporting LGBTQ rights is always a good thing. But I cannot help but see the enormity of omission here: the Israeli government just passed a law

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-10 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:25 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: Dear David, your mail is very long and dense, I don't know where to start: so I'll start from a random point ;-) > You say that that WMF bears responsibility in the "failure" of our > Wikisource community project, and that it is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

2018-06-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi David, we're not good friends, we saw each other in real life very few times, in Berlin and in Hong Kong, but I always remember our work for the Wikisource IEG¹ one of the coolest projects I've ever done in my life as a wikimedian. We did well, I think, even if our results were small and there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
Maybe, instead of thinking about CC0 vs CC-BY-SA, we should try to think at the goal: how can we, as a movement, "fight" the exploitation from over-the-top players of community-generated content? Of course, license is the primary tool every one of us thinks about. But (and please correct me if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Emerging Communities: a proposed new definition

2017-09-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
FWIW, I always liked the term "emerging communities" because it's very broad, and it can be applied not just to countries but also cultures, minorities, sub-communities of any sort. For example, I would very much like to call the Wikisource community an "emerging" one, because it needs the exact

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding the endowment

2017-08-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > Just jumping in with a few points of information regarding the Endowment: > > 1) I met with Lukas at Wikimania regarding SRI and the endowment. As James > indicated, the endowment is invested through the Tides

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding the endowment

2017-08-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
Personally I think the endowment is a great idea, stability and growth for our movement are paramount, IF, we use our money in the best way we can. I also don't really care about how big the banner is: it's a minor inconvenience to click the "Hide" button (provided that we are able to hide

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource type of site for sheet music at kickstarter

2017-06-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
The English Wikisource already has the Lilypond extension to host Sheet music: AFAIK, though, Lilypond notation is not easy and I'm not sure how widespread is the use of transcribing music notation in Wikisource

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

2017-06-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
Quick update, as this story went on Motherboard ;-) Aubrey On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Cristian Consonni wrote: > On 06/06/2017 02:10, Risker wrote: > > As far as I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <> wrote: > I love it, although I suspect that 1B wouldn't be enough. The industry of > for-profit academic publishing is probably worth much more than that, and > it won't give up easily. > > Not that I don't support

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

2017-05-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
With that amount of money, we could probably put an end on closed science in less than a decade, and make open access and open science the new standard. There's already a lot of efforts going on, but incumbent publishers are much more rich and resourceful. Lobbying, advocacy, outreach could do a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

2017-04-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
¹ ² On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:15 PM, David Gerard <> wrote: > On 26 April 2017 at 09:23, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikitribune!

2017-04-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Last time I remember we had a discussion¹ was September 2011 (!): There are several threads worth revisiting: I was looking for an old-but-great Andrew Lih's post about Wikinews², and I re-discovered that a project had

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikisource-l] interesting reading

2017-03-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
mmm, scam? Aubrey On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Wikimedia-l wrote: > Hi friend! > > > > I've found a nice book that makes interesting reading, please read it here > continue > reading > > > > Yours faithfully, Wikimedia-l > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-05 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Yair Rand wrote: > "Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It > is like a temple for the mind. It is a place we can all go to think, to > learn, to share our knowledge with others." > The point is, you are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
Having a global and diverse movement means finding value, albeit implicitly, in diversity (of language, sex, gender, culture, pov). The NPOV is not a "null" concept: it means giving weight to different point of views, merge them together to find a balanced article on something. Mostly, we as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exciting update about development of structured data on Commons

2017-01-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
This is great news. Very excited for the future :-) Thanks! Aubrey On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Wes Moran wrote: > Hello Wikimedia community, > > It’s our delight to inform you that we received a US$3,015,000 grant from > the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#1!)

2016-12-16 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Katherine, thanks for the email. Regarding the external expert for inclusive process you are looking for, maybe this article is of help: I'm posting here for everyone to see because I think is interesting for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Tremendous Wiktionary User Group

2016-10-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
Kudos! User groups for sister projects really help for advocacy and coordination between different language communities, I'm happy the Wiktionarians chose this path. Aubrey On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Dear all, > > I am pleased to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Christophe. Looking forward to (collectively) work on the strategy. I personally welcome a quick and hopeful mail like this, and I'm quite happy about where we are right now. Aubrey On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Christophe Henner wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New GLAM-Wiki Role at Wikimedia Foundation

2016-05-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
Yeah! Happy to hear that. More good things to come. Aubrey On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Patrick Earley wrote: > Much support for you in your new role, Alex, and I'm sure you'll have fun > working with all the amazing people around the world involved with GLAM > work!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-04 Thread Andrea Zanni
Pardon my naivety, but is it possible that "whistleblowers" didn't want the whole Board to know their identity, because other Board members were very close to Lila? It's pretty clear to me that there was serious fear of retribution (not implying that retribution was likely, just saying that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
>>>I feel that Denny's decision to resign makes sense, and in no way does this >>>decision put a cloud over his continued involvement in our community. Pine, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but you are doing a very common mistake in the Wikimedia world: you are not taking into account

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > What I will disagree on is with the notion that the board has to take the > org's side against the movement by definition. It is my understanding that > the board has the role of oversight of the org -- that is, it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't really want to generate yet-another-thread, but it seems to me that many people in this conversation don't really understand the need of chapter-elected seats, which to me feels like "I don't understand the need for chapters". I have mixed feeling about this. Of course, I've been in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Shared list

2016-02-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > You are not the only one who is told that dissent is not appreciated. It is > ironic that when openness and shared values are considered, these same > values are swept under the rug when people are not in line

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

2016-02-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Ido. For what is worth, and in my personal capacity (I'm not affiliated with Wikimedia Italia any more) I completely second your concern, Discussions are ongoing from months now and BoT seems frozen in silence. People really don't understand why. I would also like to thank you for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The conversation is happening elsewhere :(

2016-02-17 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Asaf, I didn't know about that group. May I also mention that the conversation is also becoming *exhausting*, being in English and at very high level? I know we can't do nothing about it, but it's worth noting, IMHO, that the more we go on the fewer people with incredible stamina, analytic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Elsevier?

2016-02-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
As much as I love Jake and Alex's work, and I think they are doing a terrific job, we still have to acknowledge that "playing by the rules" here is not going to change anything. Every time the academia says "we have to think about Science!", so they play along, keeping the system alive and well.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Elsevier?

2016-02-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
As much as I'd **love** to see that, I think it would be a very bold step from the WMF, supporting a heroic BUT illegal operation as Sci-Hub, against a despicable BUT legal operation like Elsevier. If the WMF does want to be bold, this is a great battle to fight. Aubrey On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > To cite a book just add the ISBN and page number. Leave it at that; or > perhaps you could devise a bot that follows up, converting ISBN + page > number into a full-blown reference. > Most of the time, I think your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > Most editions of most books published in the last 40 years (certainly books > from reliable publishers) have an ISBN that identifies one edition. Most > reliable journal articles these days have a doi. For simple citing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ethics of launching Wikidata, vs. ethics of WMF plans for Wikidata

2016-01-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > You write about your fear, uncertainty and doubt .. Why have us waste time > on it? Do something useful. > Thanks, > I, for one, think that the mail Pete sent (both in content and tone) is perfectly fine and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Piloting a Discourse installation for discussion (was: Better thankspam)

2016-01-23 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Milos Rancic <> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Andrea Zanni <> > wrote: > > Why? > > As a user, you would just need to login and participate, Discourse is > like > > a webs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm waiting for the day when Magnus will have a profile on the New Yorker, but this is nice, for the time being :-) Aubrey On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Andrew Lih wrote: > There’s an excellent profile of Magnus Manske in the Wikimedia blog today. > It’s hard to think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman wrote: > Nor am I concerned that our information might be used by people who oppose > our > principles. We ask just the same of our contributors--that the information > they contribute may be used for ''any'' purpose. > My

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monetizing Wikimedia APIs

2016-01-16 Thread Andrea Zanni
Do you think? I'm genuinely not sure. I think that the difference in scale from what Google does with our data and the general developer/researcher is pretty big. One million times big. I actually think that "over-the-top" players like Google do actually exploit free licensed materials like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
If I'm not mistaken, we recently discussed about this. I'd love using Discourse myself... Aubrey Il 15/gen/2016 06:08 "Alice Wiegand" ha scritto: > My experiences with discourse in a non-Wikimedia context is great. Worth > a try. > > Alice. > > - Ursprüngliche Nachricht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Better thankspam

2016-01-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
I agree with Chris too! Thank you Chris! Aubrey. Il 13/gen/2016 22:32 "Shabab Mustafa" ha scritto: > And "thank you" Fæ, for brining this up! [pun intended] [sarcasm alert] > [weapons down] > > Pardon my poor sense of humour, but I couldn't resist! :P > > I believe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Andrea Zanni
I totally second James' invitation to avoid a certain tone, language and conspiracy theories. I will also add that the more those tone, language, and conspiracy theories are used in these threads, the *less* likely a good chunk of the community will participate in conversation. If we really want

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-20 Thread Andrea Zanni
bring a hell of issues for Wikidata itaself). Aubrey On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Lydia Pintscher <> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Andreas Kolbe <> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Andrea Zanni <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > A single point of failure. > > > > Exactly: a single point of failure. A system where a single point of > failure can have such consequences, potentially corrupting knowledge > forever, is a bad system. It's not

[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource technical issues (was Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!)

2015-12-16 Thread Andrea Zanni
(splitting as per Richard request) > Question for the Wikisource folks: would Project Grants be a way to get > resources for you? If you can design a project and find people with the > right skills, that avenue might be beneficial for you. I have a software > developer in mind who would probably

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-16 Thread Andrea Zanni
: it's a single point of openness, correction, information. I was just wondering if this different scale is a factor in making Wikipedia and Wikidata different enough to accept/reject Andreas arguments. Andrea > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Andrea Zanni <> &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
I really feel we are drowning in a glass of water. The issue of "data quality" or "reliability" that Andreas raises is well known: what I don't understand if the "scale" of it is much bigger on Wikidata than Wikipedia, and if this different scale makes it much more important. The scale of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-07 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi Yaroslav, > > Thanks for the background. The "POV pushing" you describe is of course what > Graham and Ford are examining in their paper. > > For what it's worth, the Wikidata item for Jerusalem[1] still contains the >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Pine W wrote: > Under the redesigned grants scheme, WMF Project grants might be able to > help with this kind of software development work for Commons and/or > Wikisource. I happen to know a developer here in Cascadia who might be >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

2015-12-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > For me Commons and Wikisource could do with an abundant sprinkling of > improved user interface. > Well, of course. But, from where I see it, this is something to be address centrally: Commons and Wikisource

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endowment Discussion

2015-12-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
I'm not an expert, but I like the idea of an endowment: there are many ways to put your money to good use out there, and if we will manage to do it ethically and in a transparent way, many good things can happen. Of course, "ethically" and "transparent" are crucial factors here, and a lot of work.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] In Solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-hub

2015-12-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access publishers, if that works. What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are volunteer-based. Two pop up in my mind: the Signalling Open Access project, aimed to put an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [GLAM] Video: "Wikipedia, an introduction - Erasmus Prize 2015"

2015-11-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
It's great :-) Aubrey On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > There was a real nice musical intermezzo, violin and piano. I spoke with > the pianist and the violinist and they are happy when we use their music in > our article(s) on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
t should advise readers to do? > > >> Pete > > >> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" <> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. > > >> &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

2015-11-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
Il 25/nov/2015 05:01 "MZMcBride" ha scritto: > The Wikimedia Foundation has a section under "Organisation-specific > remarks", but isn't included in the "Funding recommendations" chart and > there's no amount requested, amount allocated, or proposal listed for the > Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel

2015-11-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
It one day that I have this reply in my Drafts... --- On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Samir Elsharbaty wrote: > Some suggestions of things we can do: > Use the centralnotice. --- Gerard said it too. I understand that this is something unprecedented, as it was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paris

2015-11-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
Megan Hernandez, from WMF, living in Paris, is well. I hope she don't mind me saying in public, but she was the only one I didn't check, and replied to me few minutes ago. Aubrey On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Christophe Henner <> wrote: > Drop an email to me or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'll be moving on

2015-10-08 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Jan. I do understand what you say, and I'm happy for you that a new chapter of your life is beginning. Happy editing, and happy new life. Tack Aubrey On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Jan Ainali wrote: > All, > > For the last three years I have been the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Yaroslav > To be honest, I can not recollect a single instance WMF people ever >> apologized to the community for any decision, even when it was immediately >> clear that they screwed up badly (like removing admin rights on WMF Wiki >> etc). > > I think it's worth remembering one time they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-31 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Unless "just" meant something like "five hours" ago, Andrea at least only > seems to have learned of this agreement *after* the RfC launched. > Yes, it was meant as "a few hours ago". I received the mail from Lisa's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-30 Thread Andrea Zanni
it in two parts, one holding the rights to the web URLs, i.e. right to banner, the other one employing all the people doing some work. best, rupert On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: Hello everyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-24 Thread Andrea Zanni
: collaboration is the very pillar of all the Wikimedia movement. We would like to thank all the people who supported us and gave us opinions and advices on this mailing list and elsewhere. We are very proud to be part of such a great community, and we would like to see it become wider and bigger. Andrea Zanni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
a bit the situation. Cheers Andrea Zanni Wikimedia Italia On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Peter Southwood wrote: Is there not a method for time to be booked in advance for these things? Like a year in advance, so projects can be planned properly and not crippled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Environmental impact of Wikipedia

2015-07-05 Thread Andrea Zanni
, Guillaume Paumier wrote: Hello Andrea, Le dimanche 5 juillet 2015, 17:45:34 Andrea Zanni a écrit : I tried to find the info myself, with little success: I'm interested to know about the environmental impact of running Wikipedia (carbon emissions, etc.) and what we

[Wikimedia-l] Environmental impact of Wikipedia

2015-07-05 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hello everyone. I tried to find the info myself, with little success: I'm interested to know about the environmental impact of running Wikipedia (carbon emissions, etc.) and what we are doing about it. Sorry if I missed wikimedia-l threads, or other sources. The only thing I found regarding a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
FWIW, today WIkimedia Italia had a Barcamp at the Italian Parliament to talk about Wiki Loves Monuments, FOP (which we already don't have) and related stuff. Several politicians were present and we discussed also this matter. They already alerted their MEPs. Hopefully this will contribute to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Renewal of the Recognition to Wikisource Community User Group

2015-06-21 Thread Andrea Zanni
Yes! Thank you Carlos and all the AffCom for the renewal. It's a good moment for Wikisource (as an international project), and we are already preparing a survey for the whole community, to get feedbacks and opinions for future projects. We are trying really hard to coordinate and build a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell

2015-06-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
Goodbye Fabrice, and thank you for all your enthusiasm. It was very appreciated :-) Good luck! Aubrey On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Michael Jahn wrote: May your next steps be joyful, thrilling and challenging. All the best to you, Fabrice! Michael 2015-06-18

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
TL;DR: the Italian Wikisource has been indexed by a digital library platform used by over 4500 libraries in Italy [1]. This means that over 3500 texts (proofread and/or validated) can be read by library patrons. Many libraries will add them to the catalog too (!). Longer and librarianer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

2015-06-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:38 AM, Luis Villa wrote: (I know some FOSS communities are having good experiences with, for example.) Please, please, can we do that too? :-) FWIW, I studied Discourse a bit and I think it has enormous potential. It is developed

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2015-05-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
[sorry for cross-posting] Hello everyone, I would like spend a minute thanking Wikimedia Deutschland for organizing the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin, and thanking everyone who participated in it. I'd like to say out loud that I really liked the atmosphere, that I enjoy more and more the simple

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Helping Nepal Through Collaborative Mapping

2015-04-29 Thread Andrea Zanni
We're going to do one in Italy too.More info soon. Aubrey On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jan Ainali wrote: And in the Stockholm Area: HOT Mapping for Nepal Today, 17.00-21.00 CEST *Best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost, 1 April 2015

2015-04-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
Well, I was really excited about the Sister project news... :-( (but I think it's a pretty neat joke) Aubrey On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: (reminder: This is a prank, for April Fools Day. Please feel free to ignore this issue entirely, or at any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

2015-04-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
As always, every tool is developed thinking about Wikipedia and Commons, never all the other sister projects! What about those poor pixels? Are they different from Commons pixels??!?!!1! Luckily, today the WMF said otherwise: see the Sister projects news here

[Wikimedia-l] Events and editathons with journalists

2015-02-26 Thread Andrea Zanni
Dear all, I was wondering if anyone, in the Wikimedia movement, has done editathons and wiki-events with *journalists*. In April, Wikimedia Italia will host a workshop at the International Journalism Festival, and we'd welcome tips and suggestions. Cheers Aubrey

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2015-02-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Kat Walsh wrote: tl;dr: CC has its struggles but this is not something I currently see as a major concern. Is there something we can do as * Wikimedia movement? * Wikimedia Foundation? Aubrey

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Education Extension

2015-02-13 Thread Andrea Zanni
Also related... Maybe I am not aware of an existing tool, but: often, tutors need to control the wikiwork of some users. This happens when we make and editathon, a course, a lesson. Wikimetrics was supposed to help us with this, but it has weird metrics, and nobody understands them. Aubrey On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons / OTRS is broken

2015-02-04 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Ryan for the clarification. My question is: what could we ask, as a community, to the WMF, o to chapters? Is there some tool/task/workflow that could receive help from Wikimedia? Maybe a new software, or some trusted agents in key position, or something else. What could speed up the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row

2015-01-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
then unsubscribe yourself and report it to Google. There are instructions in other messages. However, please *don't* respond to messages from that fake mailing list on the real one, that just adds confusion and helps the trolls achieve their aims. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Andrea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row

2015-01-11 Thread Andrea Zanni
Date of the article says 02 Aug 2012. Why is this relevant now on this list? Aubrey On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Toby Dollmann wrote: Why ? Have you forgotten Section 230 of Communications Decency Act ? Toby On 1/11/15, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there some Wikimedia project to host contents based on original research?

2015-01-05 Thread Andrea Zanni
The Wikisource dogma is: If things are published and free, they belong to Wikisource. Unfortunately, there is no Wikimedia project for original research, Sucheta. As an example, some years ago I wanted to host my bachelor thesis (about Wikisource) in a fixed form on Wikisource (and I could do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:44 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Two weeks ago I emailed the fundraising team with the following note, quietly and discretely pointing out an error in their messaging. Sadly I haven't had a reply and I think that in the UK they are still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Our final email

2014-12-19 Thread Andrea Zanni
I support the idea that translation also needs to happen between cultures within the same language. I made the example of the Italian because it is my own, but of course there are other English-speaking cultures other the American one, and they would deserve the same attention. Of course it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia: #Edit2014

2014-12-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
This is an incredible video. Congratulations to everyone involved. Now I need to get a tissue *sniff*. Aubrey On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Takashi OTA wrote: Thanks Asaf for quick response! I'll get started soon. --[[User:Takot]] On Thursday,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congratulations

2014-12-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Ad, and congratulation to all. Cheers! Aubrey On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christophe Henner wrote: Hey, I've already congratulate them in Private not to spam everyone, but your solution is much more clever. Congratulations to all of you :) All

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Italia Executive Director

2014-12-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
, and this is her second week of work. Please welcome her in our incredible Wikimedia movement. Best regards, Andrea Zanni -- Presidente Wikimedia Italia ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-29 Thread Andrea Zanni
has a special local micro climate. But I must say, I think it is good to document cheese, as well as other food/drinks, we should have more photos with better quality. I really hope this contributes to this. Romaine 2014-11-28 10:32 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Me too me too! But before, Brussels on beer. Aubrey On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: Forget that, I'd like WMUK to fly me to Scotland so that I can, uh, research and write about various types of whisky. Cheers, Craig On 25 November 2014 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Birthday gift: Missing Wikipedia links (was Re: Wikidata turns two!)

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Denny, great tool! I really like this kind of human computation tools, as they are quick to grasp and easy to perform. The Wikidata Game from Magnus is a great example too, IMO. I wonder: could it be hard to find a way to count how many merging one accomplishes? This would work both for an

[Wikimedia-l] How to change the world

2014-08-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
This is a talk from Rick Falkvinge, founder of the Swedish Pirate Party, at the TEDx in Oslo last year. I thought it was worth sharing with you all: It would be really interesting to apply these methods within Chapters and the overall

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: Henning writes: To describe Eric's action I am tempted to use a metaphor that includes black uniforms and heavy boots. But that would not be appropriately written by a German to a German. My experience over the last

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Internet's Own Boy: Aaron Swartz

2014-07-04 Thread Andrea Zanni
It seems that needs money: (I know it's political, but whoever has seen the documentary or read Aaron's blog can understand the rationale.) ((I would ***love*** seeing the WMF step up in things like this, but I understand it's complicated...)) Aubrey On Thu, Jul 3,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-22 Thread Andrea Zanni
[snip] For the things we could do, I quote form other people: * encourage Wikisource, Commons, Wiktionary as primary projects for new/endangered languages. You could scan books or documents if the language is written, or record audio/interviews and put that on Commons if t the language is just

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

2014-04-18 Thread Andrea Zanni
Welcome back! Andrea On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, Interested in your old haunts at the language committee ? Any way, wb ! Thanks, Gerard On 17 April 2014 22:47, Milos Rancic wrote: For those who care, I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback on the last 2 years

2014-04-14 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thank you Christophe. This mail is really useful and I really hope, as Pine said, you will be able to share some of the documentation in English. It would be really helpful for chapters to understand these issues and, above all, the solutions. Aubrey On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Jon Davies

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement Sarah Stierch

2014-01-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
+1 Nathan. Aubrey On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Nathan wrote: You know what, I think this outcome is not just disappointing, it's positively astounding. I have a lot that I could say about it, but I can't imagine what the point of saying it could possibly be. Chalk one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Basic income Wikimedians

2014-01-09 Thread Andrea Zanni
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: The WMF has recently clarified that they frown upon paid editing. Presumably offering basic wage for people to edit Wikipedia is still paid editing? The answer is no, because the basic income is *unconditional*.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-08 Thread Andrea Zanni
Agreed. It's nice to feel the community behind Wikipedia (well, when it doesn't bite you) and the feeling that somebody noticed you fixed a typo is even nicer. Aubrey On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Nathan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Community User Group recognized

2013-11-25 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks :-) The Wikisource Community User Group was born for gathering and coordinating local communities all around the world. We are (and we will) communicate mainly via the Wikisource mailing list (you can subscribe here [1]). It is pretty cool that the Wikisource Community UG comes just in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Wikipedia Adventure, alpha testers needed

2013-10-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Hi Jake. I completed the first mission, editing and formatting. Hi think it's pretty cool! A minor issue, maybe, is that the badge is created at the bottom of the page, in the center. I personally don't like that, as I'm used to having things on the right side of it. As I'm supposed to be a

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