://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/2012/FDC_members/Comments
Ombudsperson is to involved if it is felt FDC or the FDC staff has
mismanaged the process, so too early yet to let that function be involved
Anders Wennersten
Member FDC
D managing those suggestions of behalf of the
FDC?
It would
In Anasuyas mail sent out, otherwise OK, she mentions comments on the FDC or the
proposal process itself should go to FDC staff wikipage. Should it not go to the
FDC commmeets wikipage?
I have thought we FDC members after we have prepared the recommendation should
make a review/evaluation
Please ignore this mail, that was meant only for our FDC internal mail
Anders
Anders Wennersten skrev 2012-10-09 07:44:
In Anasuyas mail sent out, otherwise OK, she mentions comments on the
FDC or the proposal process itself should go to FDC staff wikipage.
Should it not go to the FDC
dissemination to chapters is not effected and the actual result of
the the implementation of the Narrowed focus is that more money will be
used by community/chapters via grant then was earlier planned
Anders Wennersten
Lodewijk skrev 2012-11-02 12:05:
Thanks Bishakha,
while I can understand
which seems to be stronger and better, but essentially it
will lose the capacity to react to the changes.
I am not speaking about anarchy, in general I defend a lot the systems of
control, but a system of control and a system of evaluation should be
flexible.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Anders
After just being in our first FDC committee session, I do want to
promote this way of handling issue to be spread to other issue areas too.
The FDC is a committee consisting of community members looking into on
specific issue area and preparing recommendation to the Board. This
enables
Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev 2012-11-03 15:03:
Frankly, I think it's certainly not needed to dramatize it even less
than it currently is (i.e. to increase its rubberstamping hall
appearance).
Nemo
I do no understand.
If they have a rubberstamping hall appearance who is then perceived
as
Theo10011 skrev 2012-11-03 16:12:
There isn't a lot of doubt where the centers of power are.
Regards
I do not understand what you refer to in this statement. Could you
please elaborate what you believe is the centers of power?
Anders
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one of the
members of FDC not a single persons patronage
Theo10011 skrev 2012-11-03 19:38:
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
wrote:
Theo10011 skrev 2012-11-03 16:12:
There isn't a lot of doubt where the centers of power are.
Regards
I do
I believe it is the right way to go to have dedicated organizations for
Engineering and Products. The pure size makes this necessary and the
complexity of tasks in each area.
But I also see it important to strengthen the control of these
activities, so would propose to have a very small adm
From what we learned during our FDC deliberation, I see these changes
to be very good (I have no competence re the engineering part and do not
comment on those proposed changes) .
The importance for us all to better understand impact of programs was
one of the key learnings we had.
And as
Ahem 2
Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev 2012-12-24 12:46:
Ahem. :-)
James Salsman, 24/12/2012 07:33:
[snip]
sufficient staff can be added to the Education Program so that program
article talk page templates can be provided with their correct
academic calendar dates;
the Wikimania
Inspired by the botgenerated articles of species made on nl:wp in late
2010 a colleague of mine, User:Lsj, started a similar project on sv:wp
early 2012. By October 2012 his bot had generated some 65 000 articles,
with essentially complete coverage of all fungi and birds.
He has since then
Andrew Gray skrev 2013-01-12 11:58:
On 11 January 2013 16:45, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
Wow!
Very interested to see you got community support for this - normally
it's sharply the other way around.
We had a very lengthy dissusion of course with all the common arguments
Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev 2013-01-15 11:02:
Anders Wennersten, 12/01/2013 12:20:
During our discussion we evolved the concept quite a bit (special
templates,
categories, messages on talk page etc).
Could you elaborate on this evolution of the concept? I'm not able
to see what's new, from
I would like to promote the idea that this person should be a supporter
of counties/language that is less fortunate then most of us, ie where
free expression of speech is in threat and where we now see an
unfortunate trend to limit the free Internet access.
I have spoken with colleagues from
WM:SE opted out because they ware not comfortable with the statutes
(being too far from the movement aim on openness, transparency etc) (I
was not involved in this decision)
After last month discussion the sentiment has gone from wait and see
to skeptical - good we are not involved. Ie WM:SE
Thank for sharing this
A very informative set of slides and protocol that really helps to
understand how we all in different supportive roles can be fully aligned
with the strategy and operative actions from the Board
I would love to have more info on the data-driven editor engagement
I was marginally involved on this issue two years ago. And by then the
focus/priority was to ramp up the Fundraising activities.
As this now has been successfully done, I believe this discussion is now
much better in timing, and worthwhile to work through
I like the idea that the basic
Nathan skrev 2013-03-15 15:24:
no tangible
benefit to separating a Trust from the actual ownership and
management of the Wikimedia projects. I read the meta page, but don't
see an outline of why this would be a good idea.
~Nathan
From an operative point of view it is no big difference it is
.
If it's just about an unrelated organization keeping mirrors of WMF
data, then anyone can do that and it certainly doesn't need to be a
Wikimedia Trust - in fact, it's something better suited to
crowdsourcing and existing philanthropic organizations.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Anders
Ting Chen skrev 2013-03-18 08:20:
So far, my thoughts. As I said all my private opinions, and some of
them certainly very primitive and unprofessional. I am happy to get
feedbacks and critics and learn from them.
I wonder if our thoughts on an endowment depends on our presupposition
on
In preparation of the strategic planning a few years ago, we at the Audi
committee made some calculation to estimate the theoretical potential of
donation from different perspectives, like what other NGO got.
We then come to the standpoint that the potential was several times that
of
From Sunday 20th through to Wednesday 24th FDC will meet in Milan,
primarily to deliberate upon the proposals for round 2. As there are
fewer proposal this time we will also spend time on discussing learnings
from last round in order to improve the process for further Rounds
We also have a
MZMcBride skrev 2013-04-29 07:13:
I took a look at the current FDC members list[1] and the
decision-making information[2] but I'm still a bit unclear how
decisions like this[3] are made. Is there a vote on each individual
request (and subsequent recommendation)? If so, is that vote public?
will do a peer review
evaluating it with European parameters!
Regards
On 29.04.2013 09:25, Anders Wennersten wrote:
MZMcBride skrev 2013-04-29 07:13:
I took a look at the current FDC members list[1] and the
decision-making information[2] but I'm still a bit unclear how
decisions like this[3
Your comment remind me of my strong belief - take time to reflect before
to take action and/or react
My golden rule in complicated/heated issues - let it take 24 hours
after an urge to act/react before it is made a reality. About two third
of your thought reactions then disappears and the
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes
(3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced
based on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake
environment data from a newly set up authority demanded by EU, in order
to register and
#Lakes
2013/5/16 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
A new major botgenerating effort is now under way on sv:wp. All lakes
(3, all down to ones of pondsizes with no name) is now produced based
on lake data from Swedish metereology institute and all lake environment
data from a newly set
I usually say Wikipedia consist of some hundred different encyclopedias
on different topics.
And some of these are excellent and have full covering, like popes,
birds, where wp is better then all other encyclopedia in all aspects
Other subject area are more uneven both in covering and in
Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a
bot generated article of a butterfly
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata.
The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates articles from the
database Catalogue of Life
in Wikipedia? I hope
that in future the number of articles will be counted considering at
least a small content ad not only a template in a page, because the
use like this will discourage the communities of editors.
Regards
On 16.06.2013 13:30, Anders Wennersten wrote:
Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M
On 16 June 2013 22:39, Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations!!!
Tonmoy
On Jun 16, 2013 6:30 PM, Patricio Lorente
patricio.lore...@gmail.com
wrote:
Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians!
2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se:
Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M
find that
to work with articles close to your home seems to be very simulating)
Anders
Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev 2013-06-18 08:05:
Hubertl, 18/06/2013 07:00:
Hi Johan, Anders Wennersten says:
And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting
and keeping editors
FDC have on ongoing dialog and discussion with WMF and the Board on how
to handle WMF, as we in FDC want WMF to be handled a all other entities
as far as is reasonable, recognizing some unique differences between WMF
and other entities.
In this discussion that is still ongoing, we have agreed
Seb35 skrev 2013-07-17 15:55:
I don’t understand: the results of the Round 2 will be April-May 2014,
is it not for the Fiscal Year 2013-14 the non-core WMF will ask
funding? If so, this would mean funds will already be spent for the
major part and the FDC will have no choice than accept the
A most interesting study looking at findings from 10 different language
versions.
Jesus and Middle east are the most controversial articles seen over the
world, but George Bush on en:wp and Chile on es:wp
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.5566.pdf
Anders
tba...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Anders Wennersten wrote:
A most interesting study looking at findings from 10 different language
versions.
Jesus and Middle east are the most controversial articles seen over the
world, but George
As Bishakha I believe time now is ripe to strengthen the election
process and that we should aim for a standing committee. In the same
time I think it would be good to look into this group a bit further
(technical support, how to elect the committee, split dates for
FDC/board elections etc).
Thanks for sharing your very interesting ideas. While I am not fully
support your idea of implementation, I share your basic view of the need
and think some of the concepts you introduce has a very high potential
to better utilize the power of us having many versions.
I have put in my
LsjBot has now finished generating articles of all animals and insects.
it become close to 1 M. The articles are fine [1] and represent
increased knowledge, but have problably only have had a limited effect
on access to and edits on sv:wp. Sverker will after a pause continue
with all plants (a
have no similar issues/problems but perhaps
you've collected some magical know-how how to avoid said troubles. If so
would you please share that knowledge experience?
Sincerely,
Pavlo
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Anders Wennersten
m...@anderswennersten.sewrote:
Should not this discussion
Lars Gardenius skrev 2013-09-05 15:53:
As said I think it is an obvious structural problem of the Wiki organization.
I disagree to that statement.
While Fred is about right likening sv:wp to a medium sized town, being a
bit idyllic, even if persons have feelings here to a get in a conflict
Any update on this issue?
In earlier protocols it was mention a meeting to be had on Sept 4th,
where a list of candidates should be presented
Anders
Jan-Bart de Vreede skrev 2013-05-02 20:25:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned after Sue's announcement of her intention to depart the Foundation
we
In 2008 I looked into hosting this meeting for 2009 in Stockholm. I
quickly learnt that the travel logistics/costs was heavy against such a
place, being outside central Europe and not having a real international
flighthub.
Berlin was a much better place in this respect and I believe also
Manuel Schneider skrev 2013-10-04 14:18:
I'd also like to see comments from FDC members on that issue as well.
We FDC members have also had an internal discussion on these issues, and
our comments were not far off what you express, we are also engaged
community members with good relations to
Thanks Dariusz for your wise words which I fully agree upon.
I my understanding this issue has three underlaying aspects:
*A legal technical one. What is the real meaning and implication of a
collective membership mark. A straight forward issue
*The spread among us community members between
Yesterday Yuri, ED of WMUA (and my college in FDC) was interviewed in
the main morning program on Swedish Radio re the ua.wp contra ru:wp in
Ukraine and of Kazak WIkipedia
The 8 minutes report is half in Swedish and half in English so a bit
hard to listen to [1]
The most interesting parts
It has been very sad learning of the problem you have had and to follow
the discussion you have had on meta.
I think, though, that you in this extremely tough situation has handled
it very competently and in the tradition of the wikimedia culture.
As I understand it, you have now also
Since August we are implementing Wikidata for the Swedish 290 communes
and 1900 towns, including automatic update from the authority
Statistic Sweden to Wikidata.
Our original assumption was that it would take us 8 month but it now
seems it will not be enough, it will probably be more like a
I have assumed it is an effect of Google starting to show an extract
from Wikipedia on the page where they show hit results.
I raised the issue Sept 29 in a thread here called New Google interface
to Wikipedia
Anders
Harsh Kothari skrev 2013-11-23 08:00:
Similar thing to Gujarati
On sv:wp our main headaches has not been technical problems in bots but
inconsistencies (errors) in sources.
For our lakes the hydrological authorities has in some cases called a
group of nearby and/or conneced lakes with a plural name, like
Pikelakes, while the mapauthorities call them
Fæ skrev 2013-11-27 15:24
Small error rates are a real challenge. My experience on Commons for
large bot work has been long discussions around quality complaints
where the level of error was *well below 1%*.
Very interesting you also mention this level of problematic articles. We
has found
There are probably be some common trends over all language version like
we are stronger in areas like Server software and Skateboard tricks then
Fashion and Cosmetics. But to really find the weak areas you need to
find out this by each language version. And here I believe we will find
quite
I am very glad to see this initiative.
A strong user involvement is and has always been critical for succesful
developement and deployment of user oriented software
And here I see this now is set up in a structured way for the important
work being done for WMF engineering work.
I am
On sv:wp we are several hundreds of competent and active contributers.
Many of these have limited technical competence, so it will only be
about a third of these able to enter iw links in wikidata and writing a
template. This still leaves a few hundreds who easily supports the other
2/3rds
Thanks Christophe for your long ,but very good thoughts and experiences
from paid editing from pro-profit organization.
I fully support your approach and hope we can put energy, instead of
just being against, to elaborate on how to best handle the reality
that pro-profit organization do paid
Martijn Hoekstra skrev 2014-01-10 20:12:
I very much agree with this. Currently we just don't have the manpower to
explain to 'the corporate world'
Who do you refer to when you talk of we. I it a group of people or a
language community. You are certainly not laking for all communities, as
While I believe the FDC process by now is well understood and
communicated, I feel the understanding of the actual group, FDC and
the deliberation we perform is less well understood (and communicated)
And if WMDE feedback will be elaborated upon, I think it will be of
value understanding FDC
Good luck in your future endeavors!
And much thanks to you for the excellent job you with help of your
colleagues have done, making WMAR a model for chapters
Anders
Osmar Valdebenito skrev 2014-01-28 17:59:
Dear members of the Wikimedia Movement:
In the past weeks, I've taken the decision
Martijn Hoekstra skrev 2014-02-03 19:26:
So, what happened exactly that makes such a change from last year? If I
interpret everything I read correctly, WMIL receives a 30% higher grant
than it received last year, and still must reduce its activities. Was the
FDC aware of these changes that
Nemo has found this wiki which I find very interesting [1]. it contains
1,68 million articles and seems to be a copy of articles from Lithunian
Wikipedia + some 1,5 million botgenerated articles, with focus on
species (i know from Lsjbot that there are at least some 1,3 M articles
of species
to that subthread
offline. To return to your main point: we do need 'A strategy for
semi-automated article generation; and inclusion of Wikidata'.
Anders Wennersten writes:
[we] will not be able to achieve our goal without... technical expertise
(like knowledge in Lua, how to write datainterface
Itzik Edri skrev 2014-02-11 09:26:
makes the FDC kind of powerless, having to face him over the next 2 year with
a
really hard decisions about really limiting the allocation for the
chapters, without of course, having enough time, knowledge or resources for
them to prepare for self
phoebe ayers skrev 2014-02-20 20:16:
3) I think this proposal is trying to addressing a long-standing issue of
COI editing. That issue was recently brought to the forefront again by the
actions of a few companies, but it's been an issue for a long while.
Please remember this is a description
phoebe ayers skrev 2014-02-20 21:28:
How do you seeing this as a restriction on contribution? As it is proposed
it's not saying edits will be rejected, only that contributors who are paid
to edit should note this on their userpage or in edit summaries. I think
that every edit would still be
And the same pattern on sv:wp. The first weeks of January is
consistently over the years the most active period in a year.
It is the time before Universities starts and after Christmas and New
Year. Lowest activity, also consistently over the years, is on Dec 24,
and the two weeks after
Thanks Erik for this clear and, as far as I can see, rather
comprehensive report
There will always be mistakes done, both from us as individuals and as
organizations.
Critical, though, is that we treat these mistakes with openness and
tranparancies and that we learn from our mistakes
In
Thanks Ting for some very interesting thoughts and for giving a few
ideas of alternative set up of the movement. It ought to be a good input
to the sessionre-imagine Wikipedia movement on Saturday at the Chapter
Meeitng
My reflection is that you are discussing a more decentralized approach,
Nathan skrev 2014-04-27 19:09:
n
The potential problem is straightforward. Look at the FDC recommendation
for WMDE in the same round as the staff assessment you linked; they are
very similar - same conclusions, even similar or identical language. A
little analysis would reveal how often the FDC
Thanks for this update.
Ii is refreshing to see both your will to act in accordance with our
tradition of transparency and also to see your open curious approach to
your new assignment (and your will to start up strategy work).
I get two reflections when I read through your mail.
Do not
I have several times asked for a professional qualty study of our
different laguage versions, but not seen it exist or being done.
To ?provoke? I therefor list here my subjective impression after daily
looking into the different version for 5-15 articles (new ones being
created on sv.wp) (I
After having changed job and residence Sverker is now on it again. This
time Lsjbot will generate some 300 000 articles on plant species. The
initiative is now receiving full support and even enthusiasm from the
fellow wikipedians on svwp
It is now close to one year since the 1M article on
:
Hoi,
I blogged about Lsjbot.. [1]. I really hope that a lot of attention is
given in finding the links to existing items in Wikidata.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/06/wikipedia-to-bot-or-not-to-bot.html
On 16 June 2014 12:25, Anders Wennersten m
is more stable, but being a brand-new project is something that
was expected.
As Lodewijk asks, what are the properties/datatypes/functionality that you
need?
Cheers,
Micru
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
wrote:
Just a few examples.
*It takes up to 6
One of our most interesting projects, Vietnamese Wikipedia has now
passed 1 M articles and has a growth just now of almost 100k/month
They use a clever bot named Cheer!-bot to generate a lot of very good
articles. In some ways it is stronger then Lsjbot (covering more then
spececies) but I
English (or
other) Wikipedia? And apart from translating, can it set and maintain
correctly other aspects of Wikisyntax and coding?
Tanweer Morshed
Board member
Wikimedia Bangladesh
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Anders Wennersten
m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
One of our most interesting
I am interested in community strategy but have very different topics in mind
*how should we handle the 50-100 projects that today in practice are
dead. They are open for anyone (besides vandals that already infest
these) to hi-jack
*how should we handle the 5-10 projects that are already
Wall Street Journal (online) [1] had two days ago a long article on
Lsjbot, yesterday being their fourth most read article.
it was followed up yesterday by articles in media in Brazil, Poland,
(arabian paper), France, Australia Huffington Post etc
It will now in a few hours time be an
Many wise decisions as I see it. It is important with continuity and
hands on experience from the movement and our projects in the Board.
But the identified missing competence in the Board of management
experience is still not resolved..(something for December appointment?)
And
Jag kommer träffa Hangsna IRL på fredag 11.00
Kan vi använda kontorets konfrum?
träffen blir väl cirka en timme
Anders
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Pine W skrev 2014-08-20 09:32:
Erik,
I am curious to hear your thoughts about the proposed Technology Committee.
That idea has some community support and had been discussed at some length
on the WMF Board Noticeboard.
I second that question
The mediaviewer has never been an issue on the
I agree with Craig
The Thank function is not only good to give to new editors but also as a
measurement to what action is appreciated by new beginners
I frequently get thanks from new one after I have complemented,
wikiadjusted their articles (HELP is appreciated)
I never get a Thanks for
Lsjbot has now completed its run of generating articles for all species,
with 310 000 on plants, making the total number generated above 1 300
000 (source used: Catalogue of Life). With Naskobot, having earlier
generated some 85 000 articles on Swedish lakes and French communes
etc., the
://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BotAcademy.svg
@Andy very helpful indeed. I will make sure it will be included if
Sverker goes ahead generating articles of authors from Libris
Anders
Andy Mabbett skrev 2014-09-17 18:50:
On 17 September 2014 03:36, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
Lsjbot
I experienced no improved answer time, but all time stamps in Wikipedia
for me become wrong making it impossible to use the feature. I would
call this problem a thing that should have been found in an alpha text...
Anders
Ori Livneh skrev 2014-09-19 03:39:
(apologies for cross-posting)
I'm
times went back to correct time
Anders
Ori Livneh skrev 2014-09-19 09:46:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Anders Wennersten
m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
I experienced no improved answer time, but all time stamps in Wikipedia
for me become wrong making it impossible to use the feature. I
, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Anders Wennersten
m...@anderswennersten.se wrote:
It has to do with timezone preferences. All times in latest changes and
in my edits states time two hour wrong
In am not sure what you mean with take timezone into account, I just
clicked into the box as stated in your
Pine, I believe your points are very valid and relevant
To know of the process WMF is using is a basic demand, in order for
users to know what to expect and how to relate to releases.
To know what process is used is not the same as asking for more
bureaucracy. Even a process description like
I beleive you can find part of what you ask for in the staff assessment
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2014-2015_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Staff_proposal_assessment
The decline in editors are among the steepest of any community
*Editors* *Country* *Wikipedia* *1
boost the morale of the oldies
(as also good reports in media (thx WMSE) and the botgeneration does)
Anders
On Nov 23, 2014 2:59 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
wrote:
I beleive you can find part of what you ask for in the staff assessment
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki
alternative or any practical vision to move forward.
Thanks,
GerardM
move on
On 24 November 2014 at 00:55, Juergen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com
wrote:
2014-11-23 14:59 GMT+01:00 Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se:
The decline in editors are among the steepest of any community
I
As Nathan I see no contradiction.
I would feel embarrassed if WMSE had used FDC funding in their project
to get more female contributes. Also as it is rather easy to get that
funded from within Sweden and semi-government financing organisations
(but not for WMF to get that money for general
Thanks Lila, most enlightening.
And as always when it comes to WMFs fundraising efforts, most impressive
work being done! And metrics in the new quarterly report will be much
appreciated.
Anders
Lila Tretikov skrev den 2014-12-02 07:53:
All -- we will not have a pop-up banner.
I know
Really glad to read of this accomplishment, and from my heart I wish you
a most successful further work, and growth, in the India chapter
Anders
Jayanta Nath skrev den 2014-12-16 20:24:
Dear Wikimedia India Chapter members and other interested stakeholders in
the list,
Dear members,
At the
Excellent piece of work!
It makes me really glad (and proud) to see, in this professional way,
what our daily chore adds up to in the end.
I am also very pleased to see this type of modern communication
material being produced by WMF, many thank to the people involved!
Anders
Juliet
Topics:
1. Benchmark of versions (Anders Wennersten)
2. Re: Its not goodbye, but au revoir (Richard Symonds)
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From: Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se
I believe it is vital for our survival, that we manage to transform our
communities into a more professional way of working then we have today
(which very much look the same as 5 or 10 years ago, when we were newbies)
I for example think about 50% of our project should be closed down as
their
The number of access from fixed devices in [1] show a hefty decrease on
a yearly basis accelerating from September. (total -16%, for sv -35%) I
wonder if there is an error in the measurements?
And while one the the data tables for access from mobile devices [2]
shows a steady progress, the
asap.
Anders
[1]
https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryNO.htm
[2]
https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryPT.htm
Federico Leva (Nemo) skrev den 2015-02-18 0ease lokk at the figures and
cureves of no and pt
7:19:
Anders Wennersten, 18/02/2015 05:57:
The number of access from fixed devices in [1
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