Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS

[Ansuman]

Thanks for sharing Tito!

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:30 AM Tito Dutta  wrote:

> Hello,
> It seems a consultation is running until Monday, July 23. I don't know if
> has been sent to mailing list or VPs (most probably not)
> You may know more
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

[Ansuman]

All the Best for your next endeavours, Ravi!

Regards,
Ansuman

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 3:47 AM Ravishankar Ayyakkannu <
rayyakka...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> *Hi, I am leaving the Wikimedia Foundation to pursue other ideas and
> opportunities. I will be working until 15th of July 2018. During my time
> here, it was my honor to work alongside many brilliant colleagues from all
> the Asian Wikimedia communities, User Groups, chapters, and CIS-A2K. I am
> especially proud that, in collaboration with my team and partners, I had
> the opportunity to design, launch, and implement the very successful pilot
> partnership called Project Tiger
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Supporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program>.This
> project and many other initiatives for the Asian region will be continued
> according to our team's Annual plan. Please contact
> globalre...@wikimedia.org  to learn more.
> Thanks, Ravi*
>
> --
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>
> Mobile: +974-3009 8261 (Qatar), +91-98849 71523 (India)
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Keyboard

[Ansuman]

If you are still looking for solutions, there is an option in the Settings
to Add languages under Language section and Manage input methods under
Input method. And for Hindi, both Transliteration and Phonetic methods are
available.

No need to install Indic Input Tool App separately. No need of a visual
keyboard with Hindi letters to type in Hindi.

Ansuman




On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 1:21 PM Ansuman <ansum...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As it has very basic hardware, only 2GB Ram & 16GB internal storage,
> installing other OS might make it not function properly. Perhaps there is
> no way to install any other OS.
>
> Sometimes it struggles even with Chrome OS! Though it supports play store
> we can't install more than 6-7 apps!!
>
> Coming to the Hindi keyboard, I'll try to find out if it can be added and
> enabled.
>
> Regards,
> Ansuman
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018, 12:57 PM Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> सदस्य:J Ansari ‌ने मुझसे पूछा था कि हाल  में बांटे गए गूगल क्रोमबूक में
>> हिन्दी कीबोर्ड कैसे इन्स्टाल करें। मैंने उसे गूगल इंडिक इनपुट टूल का लिंक
>> दिया था। उसे डौन्लोड करने के बाद वो एप्लिकेशन लैपटाप में खुली नहीं। बाद मैं
>> सदस्य ने यह भी बताया कि लैपटाप में कोई नया ऑपरेटिंग सिस्टम हैं तो यदि किसी
>> ने native कीबोर्ड इन्स्टाल किया हो तो सदस्य का मार्गदर्शन करें।
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Keyboard

[Ansuman]

As it has very basic hardware, only 2GB Ram & 16GB internal storage,
installing other OS might make it not function properly. Perhaps there is
no way to install any other OS.

Sometimes it struggles even with Chrome OS! Though it supports play store
we can't install more than 6-7 apps!!

Coming to the Hindi keyboard, I'll try to find out if it can be added and
enabled.

Regards,
Ansuman

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018, 12:57 PM Jay prakash <0freerunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> सदस्य:J Ansari ‌ने मुझसे पूछा था कि हाल  में बांटे गए गूगल क्रोमबूक में
> हिन्दी कीबोर्ड कैसे इन्स्टाल करें। मैंने उसे गूगल इंडिक इनपुट टूल का लिंक
> दिया था। उसे डौन्लोड करने के बाद वो एप्लिकेशन लैपटाप में खुली नहीं। बाद मैं
> सदस्य ने यह भी बताया कि लैपटाप में कोई नया ऑपरेटिंग सिस्टम हैं तो यदि किसी
> ने native कीबोर्ड इन्स्टाल किया हो तो सदस्य का मार्गदर्शन करें।
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Featured Wikimedian] March 2018

[Ansuman]

Glad to know! Congratulations Nitesh.. 

Regards,

On Mar 4, 2018 11:59 AM, "balaji"  wrote:

Congrats Nitesh Gill.

Regards,
J. Balaji

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Parul  wrote:

> Congrats Nitesh! So impressive. Keep up the good work. You make us all
> proud.
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Suyash Dwivedi <
> suyash.dwiv...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations!!!
>>
>> sent via mobile please consider any typos
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2018 8:26 AM, "Ashwin Baindur" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations, Nitesh! That is an impressive list of achievements.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 12:21 AM, Tito Dutta  wrote:
>>>
 Great. Thanks for informing Krishna.


 Thanks
 Tito Dutta
 Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to
 remind me over email or phone call.

 On 4 March 2018 at 00:16, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
 kcvel...@wikimedia.in> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am happy to introduce you to the Featured Wikimedian for March 2018, 
> Nithesh
> Gill
> 
> from the Punjabi Wikimedia community.
>
> *Nitesh Gill* is a young and energetic Punjabi Wikipedian from Moga,
> Punjab, and is studying Punjabi literature from University of Delhi. Her
> Wikimedia journey started in August 2015, when fellow Wikimedian Satdeep
> Gill introduced her to Wikipedia and taught her how to edit.
>
> One of her main focus on Punjabi Wikipedia is the Gender Gap. In her
> attempts to bridge the gap, she has been a trainer to BBC 100 Women
> Edit-a-Thon and also collaborated with "Feminism in India". She has also
> organized many outreach activities & edit-a-thons like Sanjh, Asian Month,
> Womens History Month, LGBT Edit-a-thon etc.
>
> Nitesh's another major achievement has been the #WikiYear challenge,
> which she completed successfully on 28th February 2018, wherein she has
> created a Wikipedia article everyday, continuously for 365 days. The most
> interesting part of the story comes to say that all the articles that have
> been created are about women. She also contributes to Wiktionary,
> Wikisource, and Wikimedia Commons.
>
> Best,
>  Yohann Varun Thomas
>  Krishna Chaitanya Velaga
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing Ravishankar Ayyakkannu as Manager, Strategic Partnerships - Asia

[Ansuman]

Congratulations Ravi. My best wishes.

On Dec 22, 2016 15:36, "omshivaprak...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

Awesome, Congratulations Ravi.

On 22-Dec-2016 3:05 PM, "Dhaval S. Vyas"  wrote:

> Very good news,
>
> Congratulations Ravi,
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dhaval
>
> On 22 Dec 2016 5:14 am, "Adele Vrana"  wrote:
>
>> Dear Wikimedia India community,
>>
>> I am thrilled to announce that Ravishankar Ayyakkannu is joining the
>> Global Reach team as a Partnerships Manager Contractor for Asia for the
>> Wikimedia Foundation.
>>
>> As many of you may already know, earlier Ravi served as the Program
>> Director for the Wikimedia India Chapter. He played a significant role in
>> two recent developments from the Indian region, namely, the WikiConference
>> India 2016 and the Government of Tamil Nadu issuing an order releasing all
>> its content in CC-BY-SA license. Ravi is also a proud Wikimedian
>> contributing to many Tamil Wikimedia projects since 2005 and has a specific
>> interest in community building.
>>
>> The Global Reach team will focus on growing Wikimedia projects along the
>> themes of awareness, affordability and offline solutions in the Indian
>> region. Working closely with Smriti Gupta who leads our work in the region,
>> Ravi will strive to build strategic partnerships with government,
>> non-profit, educational and private institutions to achieve this goal. He
>> is very keen to evolve partnership models that ensure the active
>> participation of Wikimedia communities and will appreciate your support on
>> doing so.
>>
>> Please join me in congratulating Ravi!
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Adele
>>
>> --
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>> *Strategic Partnerships - Global Reach*
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6773 <(415)%20839-6885>
>> avr...@wikimedia.org
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>> the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment. Donate.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Signing out with my official hat!

[ansuman]

Hey Subhashish,

I can't thank you enough personally for all the work you have been doing
for the Wikimedia movement and especially for the Odia language.

Thank you for being supportive even if I have not been supportive to you
because of whatever maybe the reason! :/

My best wishes with you for your upcoming endeavors.. :-) Stay blessed.

Thanks
Ansuman

On 11-Nov-2016 2:30 AM, "Subhashish Panigrahi" <subhash...@cis-india.org>
wrote:

> 
>
> Friends,
>
> TL; DR
>
> After almost five years of professional engagement with the South Asian
> language Wikimedia communities, I have decided to step down from my current
> role. And I will remain a Wikipedian friend of yours who you can reach out
> in volunteer capacity on my talk page.
>
> ——
>
> I was about to complete my first wiki-versary when I joined the Wikimedia
> Foundation’s India Program as a Consultant for Community and Program
> Support. The program ran until August of 2012 and then got housed at the
> Centre for Internet Society’s Access to Knowledge program (CIS-A2K) [0].
> Thanks to Sunil, Pranesh, Nirmita, Nishant and many others at the CIS
> family who embraced my team from India Program with great amount of trust.
> CIS became more like a family for me all these years. It will always remain
> my other home and alma mater - calling CIS a former employer will be quite
> an understatement. I feel I grew as a person along with the organization
> that is today a noted name for its research in openness, accessibility,
> privacy, IP reform, access to knowledge, and digital humanity.
>
> Over these years I have had the most memorable time in my personal and
> professional life. I have traveled a lot in the country and across the
> world, met many friends in the Wikimedia and the open knowledge community,
> and had the privilege of working on many important projects both locally
> and globally. The South Asian language Wikimedia communities that I have
> worked with have not just been patient and understanding, but have been my
> mentor in many ways. I thank you all wholeheartedly for being such great
> friends and guides. And I hope that I have added some value to your
> community, project and the larger Wikimedia movement.
>
> This was an incredible journey and I feel really honored to see as many as
> three new Wikimedia projects taking birth where I had a chance to
> contribute. Many of you have shared your stories in an interview series
> WikipediansSpeak [1] that I started during my time at CIS, and I felt so
> touched and connected to many people that spoke languages that I never even
> understood. I want to thank many Wikimedians both from the Indian and the
> global Wikimedia community that participated in @WeAreWikipedia [2], a
> rotation curation project on Twitter that I started as a voluntary project.
> The good news is @WeAreWikipedia has always been and will be a
> volunteer-led project even after I leave my professional role at CIS.
>
> In the last few days of my work at CIS, my biggest worry was if I will be
> able to give much time to wrap up Project Ol Chiki [3], a project to create
> typeface family and input tools for the Ol Chiki script (used to write the
> Santali language) that I was leading. I would like to personally thank to
> colleagues T.Vishnuvardhan (former Programme Director of CIS-A2K) for his
> guidance, Pooja Saxena for designing the typeface and several other
> peripherals, Prof. Damayanti Besra and other friends of the
> Santali-language community who have reviewed the typeface, and Wikimedians
> Jnanaranjan Sahu and Nasim Ali who have created the input tools. A few
> years of my childhood was spent in a place where 30% of people spoke this
> aboriginal language Santali, and I cannot share how nostalgic it felt when
> the opportunity came to lead this project.
>
> Once again, thanks you all the friends in the Wikimedia community, and the
> larger openness movement for your kind support over all these years. In the
> long road, this was a great milestone but there are many more to come. I
> hope to continue working with you in my volunteer capacity, and/or may be
> in my new role.
>
> Where I am heading next?
> Some of you might know this already. I am super excited that the next
> milestone is going to be another open source community as I am joining
> Mozilla’s Participation team as South Asia Community Catalyzer [4]. I am
> super excited for it. And I will keep seeing you all amazing people on the
> Wikimedia projects like before.
>
> Do feel free to get in touch with me in my talk page at User:Psubhashish,
> or over email at psubhashish (at) gmail (dot) com, or at @subhapa on both
> Twitter and Telegram.
>
> 0. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K
> <https://ps

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Honorable mentions by Jimmy Wales In WIkimania Mexico 2015

[ansuman]

Good to know, well done Satdeep, keep it UP. :-)
On 24-Jul-2015 9:45 am, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello One and all

 Just wanted to inform the community that during Wikimania 2015 - Mexico,
 while announcing the Wikipedian of the year, Jimmy wales made two honorable
 mentions.

 One of them was to Satdeep Gill for his contributions  Promotion of
 Punjabi Wikipedia.

 I would like to Congratulate Satdeep for all his Hard work  dedication to
 the cause leading to the recognition of it on the Global stage!! Kudos!!


 Yohann Thomas
 yohan...@gmail.com

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Farewell, Sowmyan !

[ansuman]

Thanks Sowmyan for all your work at Chapter. Hope to see you continuing as
a community member. I also remember the interaction we had when you helped
by dropping me off after a meet up. :-)

Regards,
On 25-Nov-2014 7:53 pm, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote:

 You will certainly be missed Sowmyan! I've witnessed your way of working
 and assisting communities and can endorse that hardly many people would do
 that.

 Regards,
 Dhaval
 On 25 Nov 2014 07:54, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Please join me in wishing a fond farewell for Sowmyan as he is getting
 relieved from his role as an Executive Manager for Wikimedia India
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Staff.

 His 40 years of experience and wisdom served the movement well when we
 were going through a crucial phase. Those who were closely involved with
 the chapter operations know that he went many miles beyond the call of his
 duty.

 Sowmyan has promised to serve the movement as a community member and I
 greatly look forward to it.

 Ravi


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recruitment Announcement : Program Director of Wikimedia India Chapter

[ansuman]

Congrats Ravishankar.

Welcome to WMIN as PD.
Wish you all the best!

Regards,
Ansuman
On 21-Sep-2014 1:26 pm, Jayanta Nath jaya...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 Dear Members of Wikimedia India Chapter,

 It is my pleasure to announce Ravishankar Ayyakkannu as the Program
 Director of Wikimedia India Chapter.

 He was involved in various projects of the movement that dealt with the
 State Government of Tamilnadu and multinational firms like Google.  His
 experiences working for the movement have been featured in media including
 The New York Times and BBC. He has served as the General Council member of
 the International Forum for Information Technology in Tamil. He is also
 actively involved in promoting Free and Open Source projects and Free
 Culture movements in Tamil.

 Ravishankar completed his graduation from Nanyang Technical University,
 Singapore and Technical University of Munich, Germany and later worked as a
 researcher for the Leiden University in The Netherlands.He has been
 working as an independent Web development consultant.


 The Interview committee consisting of Sudhanwa Jogalekar (Past president)
 , Navin Francis ( Past Secretory), Moksh Juneja (President) and myself were
 honored to be part of this efficient, effective, and enlightening process.

 Ravishankar joined Wikimedia India on 20th September 2014 as Program
 Director. He will be based in Bangalore. His primary roles are supporting
 community members in organizing and executing the various chapter programs,
 strategic planning for the chapter, mentoring interns and devise success
 measurement metrics for community projects.

 Please join me in officially welcoming Ravishankar Ayyakkannu to Wikimedia
 India Chapter!

 Jayanta Nath

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Who is moderating India Mailing list ?

[ansuman]

I can't believe you thought imp emails being discarded intentionally! :) I
understand the intensity level around chapter .. Still?

Being a moderator is like inviting spams. I had to remove myself at Odia
wiki mailing list. Hard to imagine massive number of spams at this list!!
Not an easy task!
 On 15-Sep-2014 7:55 pm, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 With sufficient evidences, as apparent as they seem to be, I must
 introduce this issue to you all.

 The India mailing list is controlled by a few people, of whom no one ever
 was thinking evil. However, it is time to review and see who really
 controls this mail list!

 I request all recipients to wake up and ask the same questions:

 1. Who all control the mail list and moderate it?
 2. What has been the criteria of their selection? How long they should
 remain as administrators to the list?
 3. Why should mails go selectively passed and selectively discarded?
 4. How come very stale mail messages come after almost a month, just when
 they could significantly be more relevant  (or more damaging a particular
 positive cause) with a changed /new scenario?


 I propose few more 'acceptable' members are added to the admin list. And
 even to get rid of people whom the general community does not probably
 trust any more.

 We don't want any more vicious infestations to damage the 'India' context
 of Wikimedia cause.

 -Viswam


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Future of Work in India: Bangalore it is

[ansuman]

On 15-Sep-2014 10:24 pm, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 As I wrote originally, we'd ideally invite people nominated by their
respective communities.  Those communities that have not managed to have a
discussion and come up with nominated delegates will be represented by our
best estimate, based on relevant background (like past service in the EC,
in some cases, or past off-wiki programmatic activity), or on (admittedly
crude) measures such as total edit count.

 I have, for

.. example, ..

personally invited the 5 most active editors on Marathi and Hindi Wikipedia
to join us.

A.

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I meant that a few community members have been nominated by fellow
community members. This has happened without the said community member
knowing about it and that said nomination did not happened within language
community wikis.

 Warm regards,
 Pradeep Mohandas

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 14-Sep-2014, at 7:46, Abhinav Garule abhinavgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ravi and Pradeep for clearing the doubts.
 And yes keeping in mind, the logistics and other requirements Bangalore
is convinient location.

 @Pradeep:- I didn't get this

 There are a few people who have been nominated by other community
 members and were neither self-nominated nor community nominated.

 So, Aren't  other community members part of community?


 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi Abhinav,

 I don't think they asked for the community input to decide the
 location for the consultation, that seems to have sprung up on its own
 somehow. The idea was always that it would be in either of the two
 cities and people would be supported to come for the Consultation by
 the WMF if needed.

 There are a few people who have been nominated by other community
 members and were neither self-nominated nor community nominated.

 warm regards,
 Pradep

 On 12 September 2014 11:57, Abhinav Garule abhinavgar...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Dear Asaf,
 
  Considering the vote count before the midnight of 10th of September
Mumbai
  was the prefrred location for meeting.
  Vote count
  Mumbai - 20
  Bangalore - 18
  (Before Midnight, 10th of Sept.)
 
  History:-
 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014action=history
  (*some votes added this morning)
 
  And some Board Members (List) have casted their votes for the
location.
  Board Members Vote count
  Bangalore:- 1
  Mumbai:- 1
 
  And 2 Board Members are from Mumbai. So we can consider count for
Mumbai as
  3.
 
  Kindly consider it as query regarding Preferred Location for meeting
and let
  us know your views on it.
 
 
  Thanks  Regards,
  Abhinav Garule.
 
  On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
 
  Hello, everyone.
 
  This is to inform everyone that the community consultation planned
for Oct
  4th-5th will be held in Bangalore.
 
  See here:
 
 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014#Venue_choice
 
  I will be following up in the coming day or so with more
information on
  confirmed attendees, taking community nominations into account.
 
  Thanks,
 
 Asaf
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias

[ansuman]

A large amount goes to experiments...if one third of that amount used
appreciating editors, we would have been a much better scenario.

On 29-Jul-2014 7:09 pm, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey,

 I have been noting declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias for
the last few months.


http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/telugu-wikipedia-struggles-to-stay-afloat/article6255633.ece

 triggered to write this mail.

 This is my view on what's happening:

 1. Most of the Indian Wikipedias have crossed 10 years. Many of the
active and first generation contributors are burnt out, taking a leave or
have left for good. If you are not creative, intentional and consistent in
your efforts to replenish and nurture the next generation, you will see a
declining trend.

 2. Malayalam Wikipedia which once had 30 contributors who made 100+ edits
a month registered only 10 such editors in May 2014. The last time they had
activity this low was during May 2011. At the same time, their Wiki Source
is registering a phenomenal growth. So, some resources could be split
between projects too. This is a good reason to not start too many projects.
Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource should be good enough unless you have a
huge community.

 3. Focus on offline projects like events, celebrations. While they are
good, over doing can stress few active contributors. In my experience,
every time after organizing some offline event, there is too much burn out
and people return after months.

 4. Things that plague all global Wikipedias - archaic editor, social
media distractions, increasing use of tablets / smart phones.

 Future will be quite challenging :)

I'm sure more experiments coming our way to make the future less
challenging.. ;)


 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Loves Pride, India 2014

[ansuman]

Oh no! Do i really have to unsubscribe!! :D

Ansuman




On 7 July 2014 20:52, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Vishnu,

 Yes, I am aware it runs till next week. Just didn't find any activity in
 signups or discussions after the initial announcement.

 Looking forward for the report.

 Thanks,

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia

[ansuman]

The Subject line says Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia. Why the
stats for Tulu ?

No wonder, they always try to cover up with something else!!!

Anyway in the stats, those numbers are overall from 2007, not just one
month's.

Ansuman




On 18 May 2014 20:45, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Editors with 10 edit count?
 That's nothing great. Half of them might have edited from the workshop
 itself and then disappeared. Also, edit counts are never considered a good
 measure of success.
 Are there any real metrics being used?
 On May 18, 2014 7:00 PM, Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.com
 wrote:

 Dear Ravi,



 1.Tulu Wikipedia outreach programs and outcome:



 Please look at the work plan here and the stats mentioned -
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Making_the_Tulu_Wikipedia_Live.


 Pay little attention to these numbers (excerpt from the work-plan above)-




 The current stats, as of March 2014 stands like this:

 · 147 articles including categories, templates, and talk pages.

 · 31 total number of editors; including those who have done just
 one edit.

 · 8 editors with more than 10 edit counts.



 Now please take a look at the stats at this page -
 http://tools.wmflabs.org/pathoschild-contrib/catanalysis/index.php?title=Wp%2Ftcycat=0wiki=incubatorwikilistpages=on#distribution_201404.
 I am extracting the same data for current -

 · 284 articles including categories, templates, and talk pages.

 · 41 total number of editors; including those who have done just
 one edit.

 · 18 editors with more than 10 edit counts.

 These figures definitely point to the fact that the workshops are not
 wasted efforts. These changes have happened in just one month. In the stats
 page you may also notice that  Tulu Wikipedia was almost dormant from Sep
 2009 till April 2014 with some occasional activity spikes in between. Let
 us hope the new set of editors who have come in will actively keep
 contributing to Tulu Wikipedia. Optimism is not a bad idea after all.



 2. Wikipedia in UG education program at Christ University Bangalore:



 It is true that a spike can be seen in the stats for Kannada Wikipedia.
 But the program will be continuing this year also. Students will continue
 to write for Kannada Wikipedia. This academic year they will also add
 content to Kannada Wikisource. I have personally interacted with many
 students. There are quite a good number of students who are passionate
 about enriching Kannada language and bringing latest knowledge into Kannada
 by way of adding articles to Kannada Wikipedia. Nurturing those students
 will help not only Kannada Wikipedia but also Kannada language and people
 in general. Again, I would emphasis, let us be optimistic.



 Thanks and regards,

 Pavanaja





 *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
 wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Ravishankar
 *Sent:* 17 May 2014 16:40
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list
 *Subject:* [Wikimediaindia-l] Outcome of CIS work in Kannada Wikipedia



 MarHey,

 Any community member here from Kannada Wikipedia?

 I would like to understand the outcome of CIS work there.


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-10-02/News_and_notes

 lists one of the lessons learned as follows:

 //Single-session, general-audience outreach has negligible impact
 everywhere (for example, just giving a single talk about Wikipedia to
 whoever shows up--the conversion rate to editors is tiny, and yet we keep
 *doing* it.//

 (Do give a full read of that whole section 1.3 Lessons learned)

 Yet, CIS seems to be repeating sich negligible impact outreach programs
 many times in March and April 2014. This includes Tulu workshops where
 there is active editor community at all.

 To quote Asaf again:

 //So just what *has* the Foundation learned about the criteria for
 funding successful activities? Bartov first talked about a fundamental
 prerequisite:

 The *sine qua non* of most programs is a core of self-motivating active
 editors. Most of the things you want to do, most of the things chapters in
 the global north are doing, depend on this core. It can be as small as four
 or five people, but those people need to be actual active editors ... who
 edit because they like it, they enjoy editing Wikipedia or Commons, they
 get it, and they are inherently committed to our principles like NPOV; not
 people who are editing because there's a contest on and they want to win
 the laptop.

 Where that core doesn't exist, it's very hard to deploy any other type
 of program. If you want [a GLAM partnership] with the National Museum of
 Cameroon ... how are you going to deliver on what you promise the museum if
 you don't have local editors who will do the work - write the articles,
 show up to meet the curators. So this is the big, big challenge

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

[ansuman]

I have already said myself that Vishnu misunderstood my words as a threat
when it was not. Mistaking my words he had said, what he had to say. And
later he had apologised in the same thread. That's why I said he has very
poor understanding skills. And also i have said already 'there is no point
accusing him, writing the email on the first place was a mistake by me'.

If that was not clear enough, let me say again. I'm dropping the allegation
against Vishnu.

Thanks Ravi.

Ansuman




On 16 May 2014 18:52, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I requested Ansuman to share his email conversation with Vishnu.

 He gave only a very brief snippet.

 From what was shared with me, it is impossible to form a clear opinion
 about the conversation. So the benefit of doubt should go to Vishnu.

 The conversation goes like this:

 Ansuman states that he will have to escalate some issue (which cannot be
 known unless the full conversation is shared) to the attention of WMF
 staff.

 Vishnu views this as a potential threat, says this is against Wikipedia's
 Five pillars and says if such moves are made in future this can be held
 against Ansuman in a public platform (the nature of this platform is
 unclear. It could be even a open discussion in mailing list of META)

 It is my personal judgment that neither of them have made any real threats
 of serious nature even though either party is bound to feel so in the heat
 of the conversation.

 So, I request Ansuman to drop his allegation against Vishnu.

 Doing so will only boost the integrity of the community and let us focus
 on real issues.

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

[ansuman]

It's not a serious issue like I said already. And he had already apologised
for the same back then. Unlike him I had not taken it as a threat. I just
wanted to share, that happened. Period.

Ansuman




On 16 May 2014 00:19, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anyone wants, please contact Ansuman offlist for the mails. There is no
 need to splash them around needlessly.
 If it is a matter of serious concern, you can take it up with WMF or FDC.
 On May 15, 2014 11:58 PM, Jayantilal Kothari jayantilal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ansuman: Can you please share the mail public?

 -Jayantilal.


 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:43 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anybody wants to read the conversation, drop me an email, I will
 share the part where Vishnu misunderstood and took it as a threat, and his
 reply threatening me on the same note. He was not the right person to share
 my concerns, writing the email on the first place was a mistake by me. So
 there is no point of accusing him.

 Right now there are important issues being discussed, lets focus on
 that. Thanks.



 Ansuman




 On 14 May 2014 20:23, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sunil,

 Thanks for once again confirming that Wikipedia India Trust had no role
 in former WMF India programs.

 My intention is not to investigate if WMF adhered to local laws while
 running the program but to highlight that community led programs with WMF
 grants are no different in execution from WMF run programs like IEP.

 Ravi



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

[ansuman]

Why would someone threaten the other when writing an email for the first
time, without knowing their intention!

Yes, you threaten me, saying not to threaten when it was not a threat. As i
have mentioned earlier your understanding skills are very poor, and you
failed to understand the Wikimedia movement and the community in general.

I don't think that is required, everyone here is free to believe. And being
a volunteer, my words are hardly taken into consideration. And I just
wanted to let others know of your intentions towards the movement, an
apology is not going to fix the issue here.


Ansuman




On 14 May 2014 13:25, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Ansuman,

 I am assuming that you are referring to our e-mail exchange during April
 29 to June 26, 2013.

 Firstly, it was I who brought to your notice to not threaten in my e-mail
 dated June 25, 2013. At which point you indicted me of threatening you.

 It would be best if you could share the entire e-mail discussion for an
 objective assessment by any senior Wikimedian and I would tender an apology
 should I be at wrong.

 Best,
 Vishnu


 On Wednesday 14 May 2014 12:45 PM, ansuman wrote:

  I have had a similar experience with Vishnu when I first wrote an email
 (prior to the job application) to him with the concerns about A2K.

 He couldn't understand my concerns, misunderstood my intention, and
 threaten me without seeking clarification. That day I knew of his
 intentions and understanding of Wikimedia movement; the reason i have been
 keeping track of their work plans, activities and pointing out mistakes.

 He always makes such mistakes and when someone points out, he denies the
 allegations.

  Ansuman




 On 14 May 2014 12:29, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.com wrote:

  Vishnu,

  What you were writing there was fairly off-topic, and quite unnecessary.
 And that hints of malice. In retrospect, that could have been seriously
 avoided.

 It also dangerously undermines other community members who're willing to
 speak out expressing their opinion in an open discussion.

  I protest and object strongly to the way it has been put forward.


 On 14 May 2014 11:19, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Hari,

 I seriously refute the way you are wrongly interpreting my intentions.
 It is never my intention nor style of work to threaten anyone, least of all
 a Wikimedian friend like Ravi.

 I was only making a legal point that we as a movement should look into
 and I have very clearly stated that we should take this concern on board. I
 have also amply stated that my interpretation is up for correction.

 Ravi, if you think, event remotely, that I am trying to threaten you, I
 profusely apologize. If you or the community members think that I was wrong
 to take the Tamil Wiki 10 celebration example to illustrate a legal point
 [1], apologies for that too. I was only doing it to state a point without
 any intention of malice or wrong doing what-so-ever.

 Cheers,
 Vishnu

 [1]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Staff_proposal_assessment#Additional_concern_that_should_be_taken_on_board


 On Wednesday 14 May 2014 01:46 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:

  Ravi,

 While I do not approve of the way this has been worded here or presented
 here by you, it does seem like a veiled threat clearly directed towards you
 by Vishnu for your speaking out (which has been quite vehement, to be
 honest). And an apparent threat like this coming in from a Program Director
 does look very ugly.

  The worst thing is that it seems to be trying to distract readers from
 the actual issues. I sincerely hope that Vishnu shall clear this up with an
 appropriate step that befits his position and the respect his position
 merits.

 And I wish and hope these shall not happen in future.



 On 14 May 2014 00:58, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is receiving money as an individual from a foreign body in violation of
 the Act?
 If that is so, won't half of India be violating it?

  I have a copy of the Act from the Ministry of Law and Justice and it
 doesn't seem to say so.



  On 13 May 2014 19:11, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey,

  Is there a legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India
 getting Individual engagement grants and grants for running community
 events from WMF?

  An alert regarding this has been raised here:


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Staff_proposal_assessment#Additional_concern_that_should_be_taken_on_board

  Any professional legal / financial advise will be much appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Ravi



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting WMF grants

[ansuman]

If anybody wants to read the conversation, drop me an email, I will share
the part where Vishnu misunderstood and took it as a threat, and his reply
threatening me on the same note. He was not the right person to share my
concerns, writing the email on the first place was a mistake by me. So
there is no point of accusing him.

Right now there are important issues being discussed, lets focus on that.
Thanks.



Ansuman




On 14 May 2014 20:23, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sunil,

 Thanks for once again confirming that Wikipedia India Trust had no role in
 former WMF India programs.

 My intention is not to investigate if WMF adhered to local laws while
 running the program but to highlight that community led programs with WMF
 grants are no different in execution from WMF run programs like IEP.

 Ravi



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Staff assessment and comments of the CIS-A2K proposal

[ansuman]

Thanks Pradeep for sharing this, obviously such links of information don't
get shared by WMF and CISA2K!!

The node to the proposal clearly says, this proposal and review process
have been just a formality as many of us stated earlier.. *hard to believe*

Ansuman




On 10 May 2014 20:30, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 WMF staff have posted their assessment of the CIS-A2K proposal to the FDC
 -
 http://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Staff_proposal_assessment.
  Also, comments can be seen on the talk page there.

 Warm regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The story of great Indian WMF outsourcing, few blind people and an elephant

[ansuman]

Hi Ravi, I just want to tell you that, I completely agree with your points.

I have the same concerns like many others here. So even if my concern
doesn't count that's okay.

Just curious to see how CISA2K is going to work and succeed without the
support of many community members.

This should be enough for FDC to decide.

Thanks.

Ansuman




On 1 May 2014 19:44, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi.
 Sorry I do get things wrong.. I trust to have them right in Wikidata.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


 On 30 April 2014 14:10, sibi kanagaraj civil.si...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Gerard ,

 Sorry to interrupt the discussion .

 Small correction

 //I  added that Mr Modi is the incumbent prime minister of Gujarati state
 in Wikidata.//

 Modi is actually incumbent Chief Minister(not Prime minister )  of
 Gujarat (Not Gujarati - Which is a language )  .

 -Sibi




 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi,
 I am a Wikimedian and have been for a very long time. Check my record
 and you will find that I have always been involved in both language support
 and projects like Wiktionary, OmegaWiki, Wikidata, Reasonator.

 Today new functionality has gone life on Wikidata that was expected for
 over half a year. Because of this the Marwari language is now supported in
 Wikidata. I blogged about this [1]. Other languages will follow soon. This
 policy was discussed with people from India in the past and they saw it as
 an appropriate strategy to start building information resources in a
 language prior to a Wikipedia or another WMF project.

 India is big and it is foolish to forget context and not seek support
 and second opinions when people in India are likely to benefit directly. On
 the other hand, you can bring a horse to water, you cannot make it drink.
 When I blogged about an enhancement to the search functionality on the
 Telugu Wikipedia [2], it should be obvious that added value will only be
 found when people add labels in Telugu to Wikidata. It is gratifying that
 labels have been added. This is not an experiment as traffic details from
 the Tamil and Persian Wikipedia indicate it as a successful strategy.

 I am not involved in Indian politics. Obviously. I am however improving
 information about the current members of the Lok Sabha. I  added that Mr
 Modi is the incumbent prime minister of Gujarati state in Wikidata. I have
 blogged about one member of the Lok Sabha and I am likely to do so again.
 My objective is to get labels in all the languages of India for all of them
 and I will not be the one doing that. My hope is that information is
 readily available on Indian politics and its politicians.

 What we will gain out of it is a better understanding on how such
 projects work. A much bigger challenge are the elections of South Africa.
 What we may gain out of it is that Wikidata becomes a platform where this
 type of information is available. Much of the information in Wikidata finds
 its origin in Wikipedia. It is because of the hard work in the English
 Wikipedia that we are able to add information. The point however is that
 information can become available in every other language. That is not an
 experiment, it is a fact.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


 [1]
 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/04/wikidata-marwari-language-from-india.html
 [2]
 http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/04/wikipedia-search-for-in-telugu.html


 On 30 April 2014 10:00, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 As I engaged in the discussion regarding CIS grant proposal for the
 last two weeks, I had this recurring theme echoed from various corners.

 India is big. India is diverse. India is unlike other countries. So,
 experiments (call it innovation) need to be done.

 For the love of Wiki God, may I request all the global people  to stop
 experiementing with India?

 *People from outside have no clue of India. And the people they hire in
 India have no clue of the Wikimedia movement. *

 Ultimately, it has become like few blind people describing an elephant.

 Heck, all the community members know it is an elephant and know it
 takes time to grow an elephant. The growth of an elephant can only be on
 par with the ecosystem within which it is present.

 No amount of systematic intervention is going to change a donkey into
 an elephant.

 I am tired of seeing experiments being done in naive and tiny Indic
 communities and the lessons learnt being implemented in Brazil, Egypt and
 Arab world. Be it Google or be it WMF or its avatars.

 May I request that you do your experiments elsewhere for a change and
 implement things that work for sure in India organically?

 The reason why English Wikipedia community flourishes in India, Tamil /
 Bengali / Malayalam communities do well relatively are complete socio
 economic and political. No amount of intervention is going to change this
 in other parts of the country. This is like providing rice bags to the poor

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] coi

[ansuman]

LOL, yes I had applied for the job. I was not satisfied with the screening
process.

But I never had no complains about not getting selected. In fact I was
happy, I never would have survived with those incompetents..For example, I
feel there was no work, and the last recruit left because he was doing
merely wiki editing, and helping users what other volunteers do.

But that has nothing to do with my concerns i have raised. I'm glad you
brought this up. Is it clear now?

Oh and one more thing, I'm stuck at home because of personal issues..the
chance was very low that i'd stay out of my hometown! I haven't said this!
which all of my friends know.

Other lies, allegations; i have no idea, maybe in your dreams. Thanks.
Thanks truth hurts! :D

And you are free to believe what you want. Cheers.

Ansuman




On 18 April 2014 11:30, Truth Hurts truthhu...@asia.com wrote:

 anshuman

 there is something you would like to tell us right?

 about jobs? applications for jobs? applications for jobs that were
 rejected? applications for jobs that were rejected and you told many
 friends about that you wanted badly for a long time?

 i herard this directly from you at many wikimeetups but i do not see you
 mention it anywhere publicly

 if you desire to have readers understand that your criticism is different
 from pradx and ravidreams then you could start here

 imho, better to make things clear and transparent

 you will be taken more seriously if you do

 sunshine is the best disinfectant

 kind regards
 truth hurts
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[ansuman]

truth hurts, be ashamed for writing anonymously, you really think  people
will believe if you put up questions like this.!
I dare you to reveal your identity and ask the questions again. And I will
answer differently. :D
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

[ansuman]

Thanks Anasuya. I believe you, and I understand your points.

But the facts (some are getting out at proposal talk page) were not told
before, which should have been told much earlier.
Even the WMF's intent is not transparent about this particular project. You
can see many questions being asked there not only from me, but also from
other members. And i believe because of this nature of business many others
are quiet.

And it looks like no matter what volunteers ask, say; irrespective of their
concerns, the decisions are final or have been made. To put it in another
way, the paid employees outweigh volunteers. That's all. Thanks.


Ansuman




On 19 April 2014 09:06, Anasuya Sengupta asengu...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Ansuman,

 I think I've made clear on the CIS talk page what the process for the CIS
 transition was, as best as I am able. Since neither Asaf or I were directly
 involved at the start, it is difficult for us to give the community details
 we do not know.

 The so-called Conflict of Interest issue has been addressed by the Board
 here, [1] making it clear that they do not believe that there is any CoI
 involved.

 If it helps further, I'm happy to quote from my email correspondence with
 you in February:


 I'd also like to clarify that I am not 'associated' with CIS in any
 problematic fashion - I have no CoI and never have had one. I have known
 Sunil from when I was 21 years old because we worked in the same rural
 development NGO - 'Samuha' - he worked on the tech side of things in
 Bangalore, and I was working on livelihood and women's leadership in north
 Karnataka. We have naturally continued to know each other because of our
 common interests in social justice and tech issues in Bangalore and beyond.
 And the grant to CIS was discussed and finalised by Barry before I
 joined WMF in July 2012; I had nothing to do with that process and did not
 even know it was happening till I came on board. I hope that clarifies the
 situation and makes clear why the Board said what it did. I'm happy to
 respond to any questions about this or anything else.


 Let me just say that simply knowing someone does not constitute 'conflict
 of interest' - what is important is to establish that there is no undue
 influence by and benefit to the 'conflicted person' (a somewhat amusing
 phrase of legalese) by this situation. Since neither is true, please be
 assured that there is no CoI whatsoever. I'd also like to point out that
 our community loses energy and focus by not recognising perceived or actual
 CoI when it exists, while assuming it exists in situations where it does
 not. I know it can be confusing, and we've made a start to explore it
 together at the Wikimedia conference. Asaf and Stephen led a session there,
 which we hope to expand into guidelines for the community soon.[2]

 I hope this helps,
 Anasuya

 [1]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC#Ombudsperson_feedback
 [2]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Documentation/12



 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here it's 
 writtenhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC#Ombudsperson_feedback
  about
 Anasuya's involvement.

 If there is a COI issue, why is she involved now? Why did she visited
 India officially to meet CISA2K?

 To Anusuaya, you have written in that email sent to me that you were not
 involved, I think you need to tell the whole community the same.

 You said you were not involved, Asaf said on cisa2k proposal page that he
 was not involved back then, then who was involved? You need to disclose
 that, and bring some clarity, transparency.

 If you guys don't disclose, then how would we believe that everything
 happened properly without any bias/COI?

 Note:you don't disclose these matters openly, hence we ask!

 Ansuman





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

[ansuman]

This percept by Pradeep at proposal talk page sums it up;

//I see no point in community engagement with this proposal to improve it
without the knowledge of WMF's assessment. Trying to make improvements
without any idea of the feedback will just lead to poor quality. Also, I do
not see the need for this public grant application process when pretty much
everything else seems to be behind closed doors. I believe you ( WMF) will
have a better idea on whether to fund this proposal or not based on your
internal appraisal of the performance of CIS-A2K than community members
here who have seen only the plan and only parts of the implementation of
the programme by CIS-A2K for which they were already funded.
Prad2609https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Prad2609
 (talk https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Prad2609) 18:41, 17
April 2014 (UTC) //

There are still many questions to be answered by CIS and WMF. Thanks Ravi
for your work there, at least this way we will have some transparency!
Thanks.

Ansuman




On 18 April 2014 18:10, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dhaval,

 Asaf has been answering questions on these lines and the discussion is
 continuing at


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q3a.
  Follow the questions Q3b and Q3c too.

 Let us please participate in the on-wiki discussion there.

 Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

[ansuman]

Yes, you're right. But I was talking specifically about this project in
making decisions.

This percept by Pradeep at proposal talk page sums it up;

//I see no point in community engagement with this proposal to improve it
without the knowledge of WMF's assessment. Trying to make improvements
without any idea of the feedback will just lead to poor quality. Also, I do
not see the need for this public grant application process when pretty much
everything else seems to be behind closed doors. I believe you ( WMF) will
have a better idea on whether to fund this proposal or not based on your
internal appraisal of the performance of CIS-A2K than community members
here who have seen only the plan and only parts of the implementation of
the programme by CIS-A2K for which they were already funded.
Prad2609https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Prad2609
 (talk https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Prad2609) 18:41, 17
April 2014 (UTC) //

Thanks.

Ansuman




On 19 April 2014 17:33, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 On 19 April 2014 16:36, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip
  And it looks like no matter what volunteers ask, say; irrespective of
 their
  concerns, the decisions are final or have been made. To put it in another
  way, the paid employees outweigh volunteers. That's all. Thanks.

 Such apprehensions exist in all communities where there are volunteers
 and employees whether the Linux kernel, GCC, LibC, Wikipedia, etc..
 The point however is to try to identify the strengths and weaknesses,
 opportunities and threats - increase strengths, utilise opportunities,
 eliminate weaknesses and take care of threats.
 The best way to do these is by speaking plainly and by asking
 questions and assuming good faith. Further, suggestions and alternate
 models could be proposed. Even if the proposer is unable to implement
 the idea somebody else will.

 IMO I am fine with a paid employee doing more work than a volunteer
 cause that is a strength and I am also fine with the employee setting
 goals. Volunteers may either work on those goals or create their own.
 If the paid employee is doing something illegal then we need to take
 hard steps to rectify but I don't think that is the problem here.
 Now, one weakness in the current model is that it is pedagogically not
 sound.  It does not effectively engage the learner within the context
 of education in India.  And due to this we lose out on the multitude
 of students who join us in the initial stages.  This problem is common
 to both volunteer driven and paid project driven activities.
 Second weakness would be making the new comers self-sufficient and
 enabling them to continue contributing even after the program is done.
  This problem is common to both volunteer driven and paid project
 driven activities.
 A challenge is coming up with effective and measurable outcomes and
 these should be negotiable between the volunteers, employees and the
 Foundation - maybe it is specified somewhere and I have not seen it.
 I think there is enough space for all of us to work ensuring that the
 free knowledge movement is strengthened.
 Let us now get back to productive work.
 Warm regards
 Vikram

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[Wikimediaindia-l] To WMF; Anasuya's involvement. And transparency!

[ansuman]

Here it's 
writtenhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recommendations_of_the_FDC#Ombudsperson_feedback
about
Anasuya's involvement.

If there is a COI issue, why is she involved now? Why did she visited India
officially to meet CISA2K?

To Anusuaya, you have written in that email sent to me that you were not
involved, I think you need to tell the whole community the same.

You said you were not involved, Asaf said on cisa2k proposal page that he
was not involved back then, then who was involved? You need to disclose
that, and bring some clarity, transparency.

If you guys don't disclose, then how would we believe that everything
happened properly without any bias/COI?

Note:you don't disclose these matters openly, hence we ask!

Ansuman
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

[ansuman]

Thanks Asaf. There are some more
questionshttp://bl-1.com/click/load/BzMJPwdmWmdWMQNnCTg-b0231by
Ravi, I'd like to see them answered.

Thanks Ravi for the detail analysis and questions. Few questions I've asked
before but nobody cared to answer till now, now being answered.  :-) Which
these paid employess didn't care to put up in two years is now being out!

I'm extremely dissppointed, nobody (not even WMF staffs) cared to tell the
community these important things, which should have been disclosed much
earlier in 2012.
I've asked, raised my concerns several times at meta; cisa2k talk pages,
vishnu's talk page, on this mailing list. But these paid employees didn't
feel the necessity to answer them!! One time someone even gone out of
context and talked about costing his respect but didn't feel the necessity
to respond further and tell these things..

If only WMF's intent has been clear to us and there has been transparency
in this project, I wouldn't have felt the necessity to blame cisa2k for
their terrible mistakes and incometencies.

If only i had known that WMF doesn't expect any real outcome but just want
to see how it goes, then i would not have asked those questions being rude.
You have wasted so much of my time!!

Even now I see no attempts to bring transparency. Clearly nobody cares!!
WMF is also responsible for this lack of transparecy but they don't seem to
care much.

So far as per the ongoing discussion at proposal talk page, *there is no
transparency, it's not been disclosed yet who was involved when this
project was approved!* Few facts yet to be confirmed and questions to be
answered.

Having said all these, let me tell you that my intention was clear, i
didn't want to hurt anybody. I'm extremely sorry for the harsh tone. My
apologies to all the CISA2K employees and especially to Vishnu.

You guys don't listen to me still let me say:
The plans of CISA2K is getting broader, please focus on specific areas
where you guys are capable.

And about No Outcome; I mop at Odia Wikipedia and I regularly visit and
keep track of edits there. CISA2K has created a lot of mess which need to
be cleaned up.

And those fluctuation; ups and downs in graphs, *we see them all the times,
so please don't claim those are because of you and don't put up those stats
in your reports and everywhere*. Please make these plans and reports short
and precise, so more users can read them and participate.

Jayanta also asked similar questions about stats there at proposal talk
page. And i'm aware of that disclaimer, still it's wrong to claim like
this. Please remove them. At least have some respect for the community and
volunteers.  Thanks.

Ansuman
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

[ansuman]

Asaf, I covered everything in my previous email.

And yes it has been bitter, the whole process..there is no transparency.
And it's not my mistake. Nothing personal in there! Please don't change the
topic now.

I apologized to CISA2K, because i was blaming the team entirely. I realized
the issue is bigger and beyond their control. It's either at CIS or WMF or
somewhere in between. You don't disclose! You kept the whole community in
dark!!

Other members are free to take my comments as they like, i don't understand
why you're worried.

Ansuman




On 18 April 2014 06:49, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I will be responding to Ravi's further questions as time permits, probably
 only tomorrow.

 In the meantime, I protest against your behavior, Ansuman.  It is
 unacceptable.  Despite multiple past recurrences of this pattern as well as
 past apologies, here we are again -- you lash out with wild and inflated
 accusations, generalizations, and hearsay; when challenged to provide
 details and references, you gradually back down and often admit your
 original allegations were entirely unfounded; nevertheless, you do not
 apologize or retract your original statements (alternatively, you somehow
 manage to apologize (as you do below) even as you attack indisciminately).
 This is precisely the behavior that had cost you my respect before, as you
 mentioned.

 I am interested in having good faith conversations with any community
 member about our India strategy.  As you have seen, I have responded openly
 and honestly to Ravi's questions about our strategy, and those of you who
 have had some conversations with me before can attest I speak my mind and
 do not keep you guessing.

 I had done the same in response to your own questions previously (contrary
 to your assertion that I did not), but it quickly became clear you were far
 too bitter to be interested in actually discussing constructive ways
 forward.  For whatever reason (perhaps a personal stake?  is there some
 personal background you'd like to share with the community?  I think so.),
 you are far more interested in attacking CIS and/or WMF than you are in
 promoting the Wikimedia mission in India and in your region and community.

 I will continue to engage with those members of the community interested
 in having a civil and fact-based conversation.  (I thank Pradeep, for
 example, for his calm contribution to the discussion (on-wiki, where I
 shall respond), even as he expresses strong crticism and skepticism of the
 entire engagement model.)

 I encourage the rest of you reading this to take Ansuman's ranting with a
 large grain of salt.  Get the facts (as distinct from empty assertions) and
 judge for yourselves, by all means, or reserve judgment until you do.

 Again, I will engage further on-wiki as soon as I'm able, but probably
 only tomorrow.

Asaf



 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:10 AM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Asaf. There are some more 
 questionshttp://bl-1.com/click/load/BzMJPwdmWmdWMQNnCTg-b0231by Ravi, I'd 
 like to see them answered.

 Thanks Ravi for the detail analysis and questions. Few questions I've
 asked before but nobody cared to answer till now, now being answered.
  :-) Which these paid employess didn't care to put up in two years is now
 being out!

 I'm extremely dissppointed, nobody (not even WMF staffs) cared to tell
 the community these important things, which should have been disclosed much
 earlier in 2012.
 I've asked, raised my concerns several times at meta; cisa2k talk pages,
 vishnu's talk page, on this mailing list. But these paid employees didn't
 feel the necessity to answer them!! One time someone even gone out of
 context and talked about costing his respect but didn't feel the necessity
 to respond further and tell these things..

 If only WMF's intent has been clear to us and there has been transparency
 in this project, I wouldn't have felt the necessity to blame cisa2k for
 their terrible mistakes and incometencies.

 If only i had known that WMF doesn't expect any real outcome but just
 want to see how it goes, then i would not have asked those questions being
 rude. You have wasted so much of my time!!

 Even now I see no attempts to bring transparency. Clearly nobody cares!!
 WMF is also responsible for this lack of transparecy but they don't seem
 to care much.

 So far as per the ongoing discussion at proposal talk page, *there is no
 transparency, it's not been disclosed yet who was involved when this
 project was approved!* Few facts yet to be confirmed and questions to be
 answered.

 Having said all these, let me tell you that my intention was clear, i
 didn't want to hurt anybody. I'm extremely sorry for the harsh tone. My
 apologies to all the CISA2K employees and especially to Vishnu.

 You guys don't listen to me still let me say:
 The plans of CISA2K is getting broader, please focus on specific areas
 where you guys are capable.

 And about No Outcome; I mop

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

[ansuman]

Vishnu, glad to see your prompt replies...not good enough..you left some
important points!!
All i see is plans and reports.. No outcome!

Ansuman




On 16 April 2014 21:28, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Wikimedians,

 Sharing the below some replies, which were put up on Meta [1], in case you
 have missed seeing it. Sorry for cross-posting. It would be good to
 continue the discussions on Meta.


 On Monday 14 April 2014 12:24 PM, Ravishankar wrote:


 (copy of this comment placed at https://meta.wikimedia.org/
 wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015. 
 We can continue discussing there)

 Hi,

 Thanks for the elaborate work plan.

 1. The way the budget is presented at

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_
 Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015#Budget

 is misleading. A good percent of this budget will be spent on staff
 salary, travel logisitics and other things which will not be there if the
 work is done by the community. So, this is not the actual cost needed for
 the desired output but the cost arising because of the involvement of paid
 professionals.

 So besides this way of presenting the budget, there should also be a
 regular way of presenting budget like how the chapters are asked to submit
 during FDC application. It can be noted that during the last round of FDC
 funding application, WMIN faced very strict criterion regarding
 infrastructure cost, staff salary cost.


 Hi Ravi, thanks for engaging with the work plans and the questions. Have
 tried to address some within the context of the work plans.
 We had shared a google spreadsheet [2], which gives a micro level picture
 of the Budget against each of the planned activity. Also each plan has an
 independent budget and is closely mapped on to the implementation plan, and
 clearly lists the proposed expenses for CIS-A2K staff costs and travel
 costs. An attempt is made to correlate why we are spending a certain amount
 on a certain activity. Thus all these budgets are very optimally planned
 and the overall budget is an assimilation. CIS-A2K chose this design to
 provide mission level transparency to our work and to provide a clear
 structure of accountability to the movement and community. However, based
 on your feedback we have realized that it would be useful to also give
 item-wise break-up on Meta. We have given this budget break-up here [3].



 2. I have an eerie feeling that the community development work in India
 is getting outsourced to NGOs like CIS at the cost of crippling budding
 local chapters like WMIN. The way Hindi Wikipedia seeks help for content
 management (fixing Google articles) confirms my concern.

 3. Where can I find WMF's open assessment of the work done by CIS-A2K in
 the previous year? How is the cost for the work done justified? If the cost
 if justified, then the actual communities and the content they have
 developed on their on own are worth many crores of Indian rupees. But, we
 face strict guidelines when applying for grants whereas NGOs like CIS don't
 have that strict criterion.


 We feel it is more productive to see the complementarity between the WMIN
 and CIS-A2K than to pitch them as competitors for financial resources. The
 later would undermine trust-building and consequently threatens the growing
 synergies between WMIN and CIS-A2K. It is particularly intriguing that
 outsourcing is being mentioned here as a model. Would be useful to have
 more clarity and larger discussion on these. Probably, it would be apt to
 raise these broader concerns on CIS-A2K's FDC proposal discussion page [4].

 Best,
 Vishnu
 [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_
 Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015#Budget.
 2C_CIS_support_rationale_and_Assessment_by_WMF
 [2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=
 0AshSF7ZKRBR5dGpMUnNKdHItUFJGMHluQUFxZGRHMmcusp=sharing#gid=4
 [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_
 Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Budget
 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/
 Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_
 Society/Proposal_form


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[ansuman]

Agree with Ravi's concerns; i don't think there is any open assessment! i
think it'd be better to ask general questions at proposal talk
pagehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_formbecause
users around the world share their concerns there.

AFAIK anyone can review the proposal and ask questions here [1].
Surprised, no one from India has asked a question yet!

CISA2K claims that they're working with Wikimedians and they regularly
reach to hundreds of Wikimedians but hardly anyone participates in the
on-wiki discussions!

It also claims that it works with WMIN here [2], but has anyone from WMIN
involved in making the corresponding plans/proposals?
Here[3] it's written, Based on the protocol agreed upon by the WMIN,
CIS-A2K will in consultation with WMIN continue to support and serve the
Wikimedia communities in India.
What protocol? How come it's not been out yet? CISA2K needs support from
WMIN and Communities in India. At least here in this sentence, CISA2K
should write that it will collaborate with WMIN and work with Wikimedia
communities in India!!

Here[4], it's mentioned the work it has done; the tiniest things its done
are mentioned which we volunteer wouldn't mention! They done it with the
help of volunteers yet they try to take the credits and mention on these
pages!! *There should be a limit on areas where the CISA2K team should be
working.* *Is it still a volunteer organization?*
I doubt it! If yes then leave some works to happen eventually by the
volunteers.

You are here to help users, why do you mention that you are helping users!
Isn't that obvious? Please don't change the wiki culture!

It seems the requested amount at APG is just a formality. CISA2K is certain
that it will get the requested amount. Few projects has already been
started. See this[5] / 6].

In the past events, CISA2K has never produced any real exact outcomes after
the event as it projected beforehand!!? And if there is any outcome in one
or two events, it's because of the volunteers not A2K. But yes they can
easily claim as A2K's achievement because it's working officially and there
is no way we can measure that.

And there has been no growth at Odia Wikipedia because of A2K, as it
claims. The active community is happy because it gets financial support
easily for the events!

In the year 2011 and 2012, there was ample participation from Wikimedians
in India, now we dont see that. Eventually it's decreasing!!


[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Questions_about_this_form_and_the_relationship_between_CIS_and_Wikimedia
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/General_Support_and_Service_to_the_Movement#Plans_for_July_2014-June_2015
[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/General_Support_and_Service_to_the_Movement#Technical_Support_and_Service
[5]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Odia_Wikisource_as_OER
[6]
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/04/08/odisha-dibasa-2014-14-books-released-under-cc-license

Ansuman




On 14 April 2014 13:54, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote:

 + Ravi


 On Monday, April 14, 2014, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:


 (copy of this comment placed at
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015.
  We can continue discussing there)

 Hi,

 Thanks for the elaborate work plan.

 1. The way the budget is presented at


 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015#Budget

 is misleading. A good percent of this budget will be spent on staff
 salary, travel logisitics and other things which will not be there if the
 work is done by the community. So, this is not the actual cost needed for
 the desired output but the cost arising because of the involvement of paid
 professionals.

 So besides this way of presenting the budget, there should also be a
 regular way of presenting budget like how the chapters are asked to submit
 during FDC application. It can be noted that during the last round of FDC
 funding application, WMIN faced very strict criterion regarding
 infrastructure cost, staff salary cost.

 2. I have an eerie feeling that the community development work in India
 is getting outsourced to NGOs like CIS at the cost of crippling budding
 local chapters like WMIN. The way Hindi Wikipedia seeks help for content
 management (fixing Google articles) confirms my concern.

 3. Where can I find WMF's open assessment of the work done by CIS-A2K in
 the previous year? How is the cost for the work done justified

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed interwiki prefix c:

[ansuman]

It needs Consensus,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Wikimedia_Commons#2014_RfC

Ansuman




On 16 February 2014 18:19, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Great! The bug popped up in my inbox filter after Mayur's reply.  Didn't
 see any links to community notification there. :-)

 regards,
 PraveenP


 On Sunday 16 February 2014 03:14:27 PM IST, ansuman wrote:

 Hi,

 Looks like there is no issue. Just need to file another bug to change
 the configuration at Hindi Wikipedia.

 They already have a shortcut in Hindi script श्र: for the category,
 https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:प्रबंधक_सूचनापट#
 Requests_for_comment.2FWikimedia_Commons

 Ansuman




 On 16 February 2014 13:12, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com
 mailto:me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 There is an old bug in bugzilla which requests single letter
 prefix 'c' as a redirect to Wikimedia Commons (bug 4676 [1]), but
 c: is already configured as a namespace alias for Category
 namespace (श्रेणी) in Hindi Wikipedia (bug 29940 [2]). I don't know
 the popularity of use of c: in Hindi Wikipedia, but hope it is
 ignorable (bug is actually one of the /Mayur Bug/s :-)).


 I hope Hindi community will support bug 4676, which help almost
 every Wikimedia wikis in every supported languages.

 [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4676
 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29940

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposed interwiki prefix c:

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Hi,

Looks like there is no issue. Just need to file another bug to change the
configuration at Hindi Wikipedia.

They already have a shortcut in Hindi script श्र: for the category,
https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:प्रबंधक_सूचनापट#Requests_for_comment.2FWikimedia_Commons

Ansuman




On 16 February 2014 13:12, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 There is an old bug in bugzilla which requests single letter prefix 'c' as
 a redirect to Wikimedia Commons (bug 4676 [1]), but c: is already
 configured as a namespace alias for Category namespace (श्रेणी) in Hindi
 Wikipedia (bug 29940 [2]). I don't know the popularity of use of c: in
 Hindi Wikipedia, but hope it is ignorable (bug is actually one of the *Mayur
 Bug*s :-)).

 I hope Hindi community will support bug 4676, which help almost every
 Wikimedia wikis in every supported languages.

 [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4676
 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29940

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Membership

[ansuman]

On 29 January 2014 20:12, Saqib Qayyum saqib.qay...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Then wondering why its approved so late?

 ​I am not sure about your previous emails, but this one i received today,
and it's dated 2 days ago.​

This is a public mailing list, anyone can subscribe.  If you're not
subscribed or put on moderation then an admin has to approve your posts.
Sometimes it gets delayed. So what?

Nowhere it's written that posts should be approved immediately!

Ansuman
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Wikipedians featured in Editing Wikipedia outreach booklet

[ansuman]

Ankush, my suggestion is to create an account so others could see your
contributions.

And only edit counts doesn't help get featured. Hundreds of IP and
registered users are contributing to various projects, not known to the
community. Even someone with tremendous and impressive contributions may
not (want to) get featured. It's never about getting featured.


 ansuman,
 i don't know about coming years, but this has happened earlier.
 interesting that this girl is being 'featured' after threatening community.

​
I don't know about threatening, maybe that is why she was discharged. She
was a paid employee, maybe she had dibs, i don't know and care. It's sad
that novice users are being employed, and after they get discharged we
don't see them around.

Cheers,
Ansuman



 On 13-Jan-2014, at 10:18 pm, Ankush Gupta ankush.gupt...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  how is Noopur  Gujarati community member?

 She has 24 edits on Gujarati Wikipedia.
 http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Noopur28

 From what I see she has managed to manipulate and pull strings within
 wikimedia to get herself featured everywhere from here to
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You/Noopur_Raval

 there are so many more deserving people from India why not them?

 Ankush


 Welcome to Wikimedia India Ankush. We will get to see
 more such incidents in coming years. No big deal. Cheers.

 Ansuman




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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Wikipedians featured in Editing Wikipedia outreach booklet

[ansuman]

Congrats Viswa, Netha, Ganesh.




 On 13-Jan-2014, at 10:18 pm, Ankush Gupta ankush.gupt...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 how is Noopur  Gujarati community member?

 She has 24 edits on Gujarati Wikipedia.
 http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Noopur28

 From what I see she has managed to manipulate and pull strings within
 wikimedia to get herself featured everywhere from here to
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You/Noopur_Raval

 there are so many more deserving people from India why not them?

 Ankush


Welcome to Wikimedia India Ankush. We will get to see
more such incidents in coming years. No big deal. Cheers.

Ansuman
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [IEGCom] IEG announcements

[ansuman]

​​Hello all,

FYI.. in a bit advance, most probably the announcement will be on
Wikimedia-l by tomorrow. :-)

​​
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/12/16/new-individual-engagement-grantees-to-engage-community-with-tools-and-outreach/

Congratulations
​ ​
​to ​
all,
 and Arun Ganesh (User:Planemad) from India along with Hugo Lopez
(User:Yug) from France, their project has been approved,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Wikimaps_Atlas.

Arun, I look forward to seeing the developments as you move ahead with this
project. All the best.

Regards,
Ansuman
IEG committee member
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

[ansuman]

 As mentioned here[1], please conduct anonymous community survey. Please
 elaborate more how and when you intend to do this with the help of WMF and
 Community.


 As I understand from the above you are asking about the participatory and
 continuous mode of evaluation as part of which we proposed two tools (and
 none talked about anonymity). One is to have a Community Advisory Team
 (CAT) and the second to have a Quarterly Community Survey (QCS). We
 quickly realized that we were very ambitious while suggesting these tools,
 however unfortunately there is not appreciable progress on these :(   With
 regard to having a CAT we have tried our best in encouraging the community
 members but not much enthusiasm was shown. In fact this is one of the key
 learning and a challenge that we discussed here [4]. Of the 5 focus
 languages, except for Telugu Wikimedia community, which has done a sort of
 introspection [5], a systematic community driven evaluation could not be
 done in the rest. Yes, QCS is a pending action item and I would get back to
 the WMF with a reminder on this. It will be great to hear from you and
 others on how one could develop this tool.


Thanks. WMF conducts surveys with the help of  this
https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com site, i think it'd be great to conduct
surveys which can gather feedback in general and on particular events like
TTT where users/members (and participants for particular events like TTT)
can share their thoughts/views, rank the works on various parameter on the
scale of 1 to 5, onymously or anonymously. I think many would prefer to
take part in the surveys anonymously, so it should be optional.

Through surveys with the help of bot we can reach to many more folks and
get feedback easily.

Ansuman





 [1]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_April_2013_-_June_2014/Learning_and_Evaluation
 [2]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_April_2013_-_June_2014/Learning_and_Evaluation
 [3]
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Reports/CIS-A2K_Narrative_Report:_%28September_2012_%E2%80%93_June_2013%29
 [4] http://bit.ly/IAepxV
 [5] http://bit.ly/IAuiVi



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Introducing Beta Features (corrected)

[ansuman]

Yes it's definitely relevant, but few of us missing the point.

There are better and easier ways of getting such updates:

1. Blog posts (also available via Twitter/Wikimediablog):
https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/11/07/introducing-beta-features/

2. Wikimedia-l:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-November/128719.html

3. Multimedia: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia
This mailing list particularly started for such multimedia updates, see:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/multimedia/2013-November/subject.html
Enjoy!

4. It may get highlighted at Wikimedia Highlights (monthly):
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights; Users can
subscribe to receive at their desired user page(s) here,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikimedia_Highlights
This also published at wikimediaannounce-l

Such updates enabled at particular sites also get published there, in
this case at Meta, MediaWiki and Commons, e.g. here at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Introducing_Beta_Features_and_Media_Viewer.

So I'm not sure, how many depends on this mailing list, folks who want
such technical updates can easily avail these above means.
However such updates related to India would be fine to get re-posted here.

Finally let me mention something important: I don't know from where
the post was copied, but it's sad and disappointing that an A2K
employee doesn't know about attribution.

Thanks,
Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Introducing Beta Features (corrected)

[ansuman]

Thanks Pavanaja, just a link would have sufficed,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures

I don't think such updates need to be shared at all these mailing
lists. Folks at Meta, and wikimedia.org might be knowing this already.

Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF and CIS agreement

[ansuman]

+1 Shyamal

It certainly makes the volunteers to draw a line on what they could
volunteer easily and leaves the rest to them (and i have implied
earlier about their abilities) and i afraid it's getting worse day by
day. A2K might reach to thousands of people, but it is not going to
help retain them and the existing users.

If A2K really care about being collaborative with the community and
bringing transparency, then why it doesn't seek community's inputs?
E.g. AFAIK there was no discussion on hiring an advisor, just an
announcement and post-discussions (I had read that wmf had nodded it
but why there was no discussion with the community!) I wonder who
really needs advice!

My point is rather having a paid advisor, A2K should collaborate with
the community; we have experienced volunteers on wiki, on this list,
and Chapter members who can advise, we have meta and such sites, where
people around the world share their ideas, are great resources.
(seeking feedback on already made plans is not enough.) And i know you
could say that it won't be good enough. But it should be more than
enough if you really care and could do it. If A2K can't seek advise
from community members and it needs a paid advisor then it's not good
enough for any such tasks that would benefit the movement.

If A2K care on bringing transparency, why the advisor name was not
mentioned after several months (since February if i'm not mistaken)
till now, for that i had to ask again and again! Why?

So far it looks to me, A2K just want to run the show, no matter how!
And i know most of our concerns get ignored, so there is no point
raising any. I shall refrain myself from now on. I think it's time the
team should care about understanding the system, and how it can get
voluntary support and time from the experienced users.

Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

[ansuman]

Yes, what is the issue now? I thought the discussion was over and closed!

Where have you been brother, i was sure you were following! I hope no
one's blaming anyone for my words. Please note, everything i have
said/written here is my own words. If you have any issues with them,
please direct them to me if needed. And if anybody wants me to
apologise, let me know i don't mind doing that. I have said everything
here with good faiths and intentions, and i'm open to any further
discussions. Please CC me now on here on this thread, if your message
is meant for me. Thanks.

Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

[ansuman]

You should notify the language communities on-wiki before at least 7
days to the last date to apply. If you can't follow the common
practice around here on-wiki, you shouldn't do that.

Why one need to tell you these little things, which should come
usually. You need to spend some time on-wiki as it required first,
before you do the job. People will follow better. And there won't be
complaints like this. And there won't be people, arguing
unnecessarily, telling each others to behave, and be civil. Thanks
everyone for your time.

Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

[ansuman]

Ravishankar

 I hope some civility would showcase the Indian Wikipedia Community in better 
 light.

I hope only civility would showcase the Indian Wikipedia Community in
some way! I'm not showcasing the Indian community, neither i'm saying
anything on behalf of it, nor i represent it.

 CIS-A2K is an independent organization / programme. We can at best place 
 requests but definitely cannot order them around. If you have any question 
 about their efficiency, please report it to the Grants making committee or 
 wherever it is appropriate.

I know what is it. I don't think i ordered anything to anybody!!
First i said you should, then do it It's not the same. It's not
something i want, it's their initiative, they started the discussion.
They are not doing it in the proper way, three people including me
suggested that. Still they didn't consider doing it on their own. Then
i said what i had to say. Now you teach me civility!! Even if i was
uncivil, i think they deserve it.

If you really support A2K, support it when it needs. Not like this.
And I could say the same to you: If you have any question about my
concerns, please report it to wherever it is appropriate.


 As far as I have observed, CIS-A2K has been good at being transparent and 
 informing the community.

Your observation alone, or my observation alone not going to make any
difference.

I don't understand, why people try to change the topic unnecessarily!?
Nobody needs to know whether or not i'm being civil. Please stick to
the main issue.

Cheers


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:09 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hopeless! So adamant!!

 It should come from you directly, how long it ll take to visit 20 or so VPs 
 and drop the same message?

 I know, you're not used to it, but you should. Do it yourself, get your men 
 on-wiki.

 Cheer
 s,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

[ansuman]

 Dear Anshuman,

Hey Abhijeet

 I don't know you. But one thing I would like to share that people WILL
 teach about civility if you will behave in uncivil manner. I do find your
 words and tone uncivil.

You don't know me, but i just got to know a lot about you!
What an analogy!
When people argue, someone else always tries to finish it, and be a hero.
And I do find your this particular message unnecessary and uncivil.


 Whatever you want to say, you can always say it in better ways and believe
 me, it always increases chances of getting your point accepted.

It doesn't necessarily be that way. And believe me my encounter with
A2K is other way around. And I'm not here to get my points accepted.
Actually there is nothing to be accepted, just some facts. I guess i'm
trying to show you, how A2K doesn't consider something when it should.

I'm sorry, you feel bad about it. Please if you don't like it, you
could stay out of it. All my messages are meant for A2K, and i think
it'd best if we let A2K handle it.


 But using uncivil way of communication is such a bad thing that after a
 limit people will not listen to you at all.

 In short, kindly behave!

And people here have their own beliefs and ethics, and they know what
they're doing. They don't need your advice at all.

In short, you just wasted yours and my time. Anyway thanks for your comment.

Cheers,
Ansuman




 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ansuman,

 I know veteran Wikipedian volunteers (and previous organizational
 efforts)
 who got got burnt out precisely because of this approach and attitude
 from
 some in the community. Asking for accountability and transparency is good
 but that should be done without burning bridges.

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Fwd: A2K, its lies and irresponsibilities

[ansuman]

Good to see some movements at meta, it worked to an extent so far.

This is all you got to cover up; newsletters, and list of events at meta.
Except these, is there any page which is updated?

Newsletters, we knew where to find, i was not asking for it, but i was
asking why there is no updates at meta?
In newsletters, you keep repeating few blog posts in the consecutive
month, i noticed couple of times. I don't understand the need of it.

Do you have answers to each concerns and questions i have raised?
I'm not just talking about updates, which are one or two month due,
also asking about Community Mid-year reports, Evaluation results,
Quarterly community survey which have not been started since the
inception of A2K.

I see, recently one team member has been added. What about another
team member? Isn't s/he in the team, and an employee? Please add the
profiles and their work details.

When i first raised those concerns via email, you didn't listen,
delayed. Then I forced you to respond, then you said you'd consider,
but you didn't. Then I raised some more concerns at meta, few you
didn't accept, few to accept i had to show you facts and figures.
All the points I've raised in this duration, there still few to many
are pending in which to few you had said you'd get back or consider!
Well I don't know how long it'd take you to do that?

Then just again I have raised few more questions. Lets see how you and
your team will work on that and able to respond to them.

Is this how you have planned for the community to make you work? Then
I think the community members should be getting twice the amount of
yours!! :D

I don't know your definition of Lie. But when people don't keep
their words, i call it lie, and them liar.

Thanks for your time.
Cheers,
Ansuman

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Short-term assignment at CIS-A2K

[ansuman]

Thanks for the heads up Arjuna and Vishwa. I hope at least now A2K will
take this seriously!

I've been meaning to tell the same again as I had already told the same
when i met Vishnu and Subha in CIS few days back.
It may not help getting you a better consultant, still you should notify
all the language communities on-wiki. I think many are not subscribed, and
many don't follow up regularly.

Vishnu, just calling and meeting volunteers is not going to help you or the
community much unless you consider their views.

It's been a while I'm emphasizing on on-wiki notification and
communication, but it doesn't seem you care much.
Is it so because i'm telling ? Should i just shut up ? You can tell me on
my face.


​Cheer
s
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On 27 October 2013 12:51, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.comwrote:

 It would be much effective if the same message is also broadcast to all
 community village pumps as well as any social networking groups where
 communities are gathering.
 -Viswam


 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com
  wrote:


 Vishnu,


 2013/10/25 Vishnu T visdav...@gmail.com

  The Centre for Internet and Society's Access to Knowledge (CIS-A2K)
 Program invites applications from experienced Wikimedia community members
 for a short-term assignment as a 'Community Communications Consultant'. The
 duration of this assignment is for 3 months. The consultant will work with
 the CIS-A2K team and report to the Program Director CIS-A2K.

  *Profile:*

 An ideal candidate should:

 a) have been a Wikimedian for more than a year.

 b) have good understanding of and contribution on Wikipedia, Wikisource,
 Wiktionary and Wikimedia Commons projects.

 c) have links with at least 5 Indian language Wikimedia community members

 --cut--


 I have not seen this being announced on the language wikis or  email
 lists. There may be people who may have most skills but may not be active
 on English mailing list and you may be missing them.

 Cheers
 Arjuna




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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reg: Training the trainers (Was: Re: Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 538, Issue 1)

[ansuman]

I second that Shyamal.

I hope they share the trainer (professional consultants as mentioned on meta)
names soon, so users will have the time to enroll.

I hope they already have 8-10 interested users, to participate in this
program. And this is not completely based on anticipation!

And i hope that A2K team also gets benefits from the program and the
program trains at least 15 users (at least one member from each of these
language community; Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Malayalam,
Marathi, Odia, Punjabi, Tamil, Telugu).

Otherwise, it'll be another big failure like Odia Education Program.


Regards,
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On 5 September 2013 18:41, L. Shyamal lshya...@gmail.com wrote:

 A good question. I hope the trainers will have experience working on at
 least one FA class articles or a GA class at a minimum, preferably on the
 English Wikipedia in addition to expertise on their home language Wikipedia.

 best wishes
 Shyamal

 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:37:29 +0530
 From: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com

 Who's training, what's the syllabus?


 On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Nitika Tandon nit...@cis-india.org
 wrote:

 ...
  CIS-A2K is organising a 4 day Train the Trainer (TTT) program in
 Bangalore
  during 1st week of October 2013. The idea of the program is to build
  capacity and enable community members to conduct outreach sessions
  independently or with minimal support to introduce Wikipedia to
 prospective
  editors in their respective Indian languages.



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] N.A.Nazeer's Clicks to Wikimedia Commons #MLW3

[ansuman]

Great going.. all the media need to be renamed though.

Can Somebody reach to him and inform the same. So s/he can upload with
appropriate file names, it 'd really save a lot of times of other
volunteers at Commons. Thanks.

Regards,
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2013/8/21 Subhashish Panigrahi subhash...@cis-india.org

 Kudos to all the Malayalam Wikimedians for bringing this great value and
 organising Malayalam loves Wikimedia 3.

 Best!
 Subha

 On 21-Aug-2013, at 2:52 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote:

 Awesome news :) Wikimedia Commons will be delighted! :)


 Regards,
 Karthik Nadar.
 Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in



 2013/8/21 Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in

 This is amazing news!
 Kudos to the Malayalam community.

 On 8/19/13, manoj k manojkmohanme03...@gmail.com wrote:
  N.A.Nazeer Participating in Malayalam Loves Wikimedia
  ‪3http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLW3,
  the Photo Uploading Event as Solidarity to Free Knowledge Movement.
 
  N.A.Naseer is Wildlife photographer and Nature conservation activist.
  He
  is incessantly traveling in the forests of Kerala for the last 35
  years.
  In addition to Malayalam periodicals, he writes on wild life with
  magnificent photographs, in magazines like Sanctuary Asia, Hornbill,
  Frontline, Outlook, Traveller etc. He is a life member of Bombay Natural
  History Society. He founded the Nature conservation society of
  photographers. Also, a society for nature conservation and martial arts.
  His book ' Woods and Photographer  on wild life, is the first of its
  kind
  written in his mother tongue, Malayalam. It contains exciting real  life
  photographs of wild fauna of South India.The book was sold out in  three
  months .
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.A.Nazeer
 
 
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:N_A_Nazeer%27s_uploads(uploading
  just started.
  )
 
  Joseph Lazer 's Clicks
  
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Searchlimit=250offset=0redirs=1profile=defaultsearch=Joseph+Lazer+
 
 
  Naseer's Website : http://www.nilgirimarten.com/
 
  -FWD-
  Subject: നസീറിന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങൾ സ്വതന്ത്രലൈസൻസിൽ കോമൺസിലേക്ക്
  To: Malayalam Wikimedia Project Mailing list
  wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org,
  Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
  disc...@lists.smc.org.in
 
 
 
  ഏവര്‍ക്കും ലോകഫോട്ടോഗ്രാഫി ദിനാശംസകള്‍.
 
  *പ്രശസ്ത വന്യജീവിഫോട്ടോഗ്രാഫർ എൻ എ നസീറിന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങൾ സ്വതന്ത്രലൈസൻസിൽ
  വിക്കിമീഡിയ കോമൺസിലേക്ക്..*
 
  മലയാളം വിക്കിമീഡിയ സമൂഹത്തിന്റെ ആഭിമുഖ്യത്തിൽ സംഘടിപ്പിക്കുന്ന മലയാളം
  വിക്കിമീഡിയയെ http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLW3
  http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLW3സ്നേഹിക്കുന്നു
 http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLW3എന്ന
  ഫോട്ടോ അപ്ലോഡിങ് ഇവ
  ന്റിൽ പങ്കെടുക്കുന്ന നൂറിലധികം വിക്കിമീഡിയ പ്രവർത്തകർക്ക്
 ഐക്യദാർഢ്യവുമായി
  പരിസ്ഥിതിപ്രവർത്തകനും വന്യജീവിഫോട്ടോഗ്രാഫറുമായ എൻ എ നസീറും സുഹൃത്ത്
 ജോസഫ്
  ലാസറും. 350 ലധികം ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍ സ്വതന്ത്രലൈസന്‍സില്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കാനായി
  മുന്നോട്ടുവന്നിട്ടുണ്ട്.
 
  അപൂര്‍വ്വവും ഉയര്‍ന്ന റെസല്യൂഷനിലുള്ളതുമായ ഒരു പിടി ചിത്രങ്ങളാണ് ഇതിലൂടെ
  പകര്‍പ്പാവകാശം സ്വതന്ത്രമായി നമുക്ക് ലഭ്യമാവുന്നത്. 350ലധികം ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍
  (ഏകദേശം 2.8 ജിബി) ആണ് ഈ ഒരു ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍ അപ്ലോഡ് ചെയ്യുന്ന
  ഇവന്റിനെക്കുറിച്ച് പറഞ്ഞപ്പോള്‍ എന്‍.എ നസീറും ജോസഫ് ലാസറും സംഭാവനയായി
  ക്രിയേറ്റീവ് കോമണ്‍സില്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കാനായി ഏല്‍പ്പിച്ചത്. ഡാറ്റയുടെ
  വലിപ്പം കുറച്ചധികമായതിനാല്‍ അപ്ലോഡിങ്ങ് പതുക്കെയേ നടക്കുന്നുള്ളൂ.
  ഇതുപോലുള്ളവരുടെ ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍ കോമണ്‍സിലെത്തുന്നതോടെ വിക്കി
 സംരംഭങ്ങളിലേക്ക്
  സംഭാവന ചെയ്യാനെത്തവരെ കൂടുതല്‍ ഇതിലേക്ക് ആകര്‍ഷിക്കാനാകുമെന്ന്
  പ്രതീക്ഷിക്കാം :)
 
  ക്രിയേറ്റീവ് കോമണ്‍സ് ലൈസന്‍സില്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കാന്‍ മൂന്നോട്ട്
 വന്നതിന്റെ
  പിന്നില്‍ ലൈസന്‍സിങ്ങിനെ ചുറ്റിപ്പറ്റി ഒരു സംഭവമുണ്ട്. എന്‍ എ നസീറിന്റെ
  ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍ ആട്രിബ്യൂഷന്‍ നല്‍കാതെ കേരളം വനം വകുപ്പ് മാഗസീനുകളില്‍
  പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ചതിനെ ചോദ്യം ചെയ്തപ്പോള്‍ നസീറിനേയും കൂടെയുള്ള സംഘത്തേയും
  നിയന്ത്രിയ്ക്കാനെന്നപ്പോലെ കാട്ടിലെ ഫോട്ടോഗ്രാഫി നിയന്ത്രണം
  ഏര്‍പ്പെടുത്തിക്കൊണ്ട് ഉത്തരവ് ഇറങ്ങുകയും ഇതിനെതിരെ വലിയ
  പ്രതിഷേധങ്ങളുണ്ടാക്കുകയും നടന്നിട്ടുണ്ട്.
 
  സ്വതന്ത്രലൈസന്‍സില്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിച്ച ഈ ചിത്രങ്ങളെല്ലാം ആട്രിബൂഷനോടെ
  പുനരുപയോഗിക്കാനും ജനങ്ങളിലേക്ക് സ്വതന്ത്രമായി ഉപയോഗിക്കാനായി
 എത്തിച്ചേരാനും
  ഇതുവഴി സാധിക്കും. നിങ്ങളുടെ ഫോട്ടോഗ്രാഫി സുഹൃത്തുക്കളോടും ഈ വിധത്തില്‍
  ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍ പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കാമെന്നുള്ള ആശയത്തെക്കുറിച്ച്
 പങ്കുവയ്ക്കുമല്ലോ
  :)
 
  ചിത്രങ്ങളുടെ അപ്ലോഡിങ്ങ് പൂര്‍ത്തിയായിട്ടില്ല. കാടകത്തിലെ ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍
  താഴെയുള്ള ലിങ്കില്‍ കാണാം
 
  എന്‍ എ  നസീറിന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങൾ
  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:N_A_Nazeer%27s_uploads
  
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Searchlimit=250offset=0redirs=1profile=defaultsearch=Joseph+Lazer+
 ജോസഫ്
  ലാസറിന്റെ ചിത്രങ്ങള്‍  :(വര്‍ഗ്ഗം ഇപ്പൊ കാണാനില്ല.സായിപ്പ് നീക്കം
 ചെയ്തു.)
 
  Manoj.K/മനോജ്.കെ
  www.manojkmohan.com
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Board(EC) Elections-2013 - Results

[ansuman]

Congrats! Moksh and Jayanta.

Thanks to all the members participated. Thanks to EC and EC.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [WMIN-Members] NCERT portal goes CC-BY-SA

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Pranav Curumsey curum...@gmail.com
Date: 13 August 2013 18:31
Subject: [WMIN-Members] NCERT portal goes CC-BY-SA



Hi folks,

Savithri just gave me some wonderful news. The new National Repository of
Open Education Resources has been launched, and Dr. Tharoor, the HRD
Minister announced its licensed under CC-BY-SA! *http://nroer.in/home/*

Iv been following up with Dr. Tharoor and NCERT for about 6 months now,
pushing for this. Thanks to Gautam, Tinu, Savithri, Dr. Nagarjuna and
everyone else who helped make this happen. It is certainly a major win for
us as a chapter to be a part of this and a major win for OER in India.

-- 
Kind Regards,
Pranav Curumsey


Thanks Pranav for sharing.
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Wear Your Wikipedia!

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is there any easy way to add photo link to wikipedia articles?

[ansuman]

Sorry for delayed response, was out of data usage!

Yes, I knew where to get the link
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Easy_Media_Uploader , was
ineligible for the grant, because it needed help from the wmf tech team.

And I see you have an idea at IEG.

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On 22 May 2013 00:54, Nischay Nahata nischay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have a link for that proposal?


 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 There was a proposal at meta to develop an easier process, where user
 could upload images from/on Wikipedia, and the process/feature 'd store the
 images in commons for you remotely. So you'd not have to visit commons and
 you could link images in the articles easily.

 Hopefully in few many years. :-)

 Regards,
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 On 21 May 2013 18:31, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
 wrote:
  Hello Shrinivasan,
 
  I don't remember any easy process other than this one! :(

 We have to make this process easier as one click using any widget or
 user script.

 Can you check with any widget developer?



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Is there any easy way to add photo link to wikipedia articles?

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There was a proposal at meta to develop an easier process, where user could
upload images from/on Wikipedia, and the process/feature 'd store the
images in commons for you remotely. So you'd not have to visit commons and
you could link images in the articles easily.

Hopefully in few many years. :-)

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On 21 May 2013 18:31, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in
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  I don't remember any easy process other than this one! :(

 We have to make this process easier as one click using any widget or
 user script.

 Can you check with any widget developer?



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IRC office hours with CIS-A2K Team

[ansuman]

Hi

Why there was no consensus made to schedule a suitable time for the IRC?
And it was informed just before one day! and there was no reminder.

And even if you think you have responded to the questions/feedback during
IRC, please respond to the questions at meta also. I think this is a
primary responsibility to respond, specifically when you ask for feedback.


From the chat log, it looks like many except few don't know how to mention
users while chatting. Just type the first letter of the nick and press tab
button, the rest 'd be typed automatically.

E.g. if there is someone online with the nick subas, just *type 's'
*and*press 'tab'
*. if there are two nicks start with s, then use more letter. Say another
nick available srikant, then *type 'sr', *and* press 'tab'*. And there are
even more usable tricks, and commands available at IRC to use it more
efficiently.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] welcome, new technical contributors

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Welcome everyone!

Grv99, Prageck, Rtdwivedi, Rahul21, Nilesh.c, Puneet kaur, and others.

Glad to have you all here, feel free to share your views, and contributions.

And please keep us updated about your work you all have been doing at GSoC.

There is also a list for MediaWiki development in India,
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-india you may want
to join.

Thanks Sumana for being so bold and sharing information, updates related to
India.

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On 10 May 2013 20:04, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 We had several applicants to Google Summer of Code this year who come
 from India, so I asked them to also please join this list to keep up
 with the Wikimedia community in India.  Hello to users Grv99, Prageck,
 Rtdwivedi, Rahul21, Nilesh.c, Puneet kaur, and anyone else who has
 joined. :-)

 The Indian Wikimedia community is eager to share knowledge, host
 technical events, and generally improve the sites and their content.
 These new contributors are interested in helping specifically with the
 tech side, so if you'd like to ask them for help with something, now is
 a good time!  (Except that many of them have exams.) :)

 Thanks for joining the Wikimedia community!
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hi

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Hello,

Welcome to Wikimedia India!

Please consider subscribing to Wikipedia Odia mailing list, if you haven't
already at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or

Just sent you an invitation to https://www.facebook.com/groups/OdiaWiki/ .
Join us there. Thank you.


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On 27 March 2013 11:14, Prasanna Acharya kaabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Friends

 I am new here. can we share our feelings with each other.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Re: A day in Wiki Women Workshop

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Great work and report, thanks for sharing :-)

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On 25 March 2013 21:22, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:



 Excellent work  congrats to everyone who has participated

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[Wikimediaindia-l] An article on TOI Crest Edition - Wikipedia women's history month

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Hello All,

I don't see this shared yet. I can't rationalize the part of the title dot
com though!

Anyway here is the link to the article on timescrest.com. Please read,
share and spread the message. Thank you.

http://www.timescrest.com/society/world-wide-wiki-womens-web-dot-com-9981

Netha Hussain, Rohini Lakshane and Bishakha Datta three gems of Wikiverse
are quoted in the article.

Many thanks to Kim Arora.

Great Going!, many congratulations on this successful month so far. :-)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Need admin rights on a few Wikipedia(s)

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Hello,

Is this about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar ?

It was a gadget on En.wikipedia but it's not anymore. I'ts a default
feature on enwiki now.

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On 19 March 2013 17:05, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:04 PM, priyanka nag priy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I will also need someone to translate a few strings in Hindi and Marathi
 for the Citation template as I am not strong enough in these languages as
 to trust my own translations. There are not many strings, just a few ones
 in a single file. I can pass on the JavaScript file with the strings if
 anyone can help translating them.


 Would using TranslateWiki.net be a better option ?


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikipedia Blog on DNA

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Great initiative. Thank you!

*I live beside DNA office in Bangalore, let me know if that can help this
anyway! just joking!*

Best wishes
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On 14 March 2013 22:58, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats on this. Good see a blog on wikipedia on newspaper site.

 best wishes
 Arun



 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Rohini Lakshané 
 rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote:

 WikipeDNA, a community blog on topics pertaining to Wikipedia and other
 projects, is now live on DNA Blogs.
 http://www.dnaindia.com/blogs/wikipedna

 This is the first blog post:
 http://www.dnaindia.com/blogs/post_wikipedia-celebrates-women-s-history-month-with-edit-a-thons-and-workshops_1811125

 I'll be putting up stuff related to events, how tos, etc. If you'd like
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

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Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English Wikipedia
highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a point added
to WP:Deletion Policy (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at
Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and
even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers

Also you may raise this issue at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap.
It's a possibility others may have been raised this issue already, and you
can join the discussion.

Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female
editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't
visit userpages.

A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like
this
http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history

I don't know if it is possible technically.
But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their
gender, then it'd be easy.

Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead and
give it a try.


Regards,
Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um*
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On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote:

 A very good read and truly written.

 Regards,
 Swetapadma



 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
 wikipedians mentioned in the article.

 Interesting to note the article mention the following...

 *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
 editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
 anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
 template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
 supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
 male-dominated world of code.
 *

 Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
 the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being less
 tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of their
 gender. I believe it more often than not the second.

 To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another 
 Women's
 Wikipedia 
 workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
  in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
 editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini 
 Nayakhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak.
 This was being shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants
 to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
 Speedy Delete notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one
 could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.

 We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time
 getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know
 we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project
 this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may
 not be the case).

 Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
 news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
 too).

 For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised
 by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
 Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
 capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!

 We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
 and to be careful not to  
 *Bite*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers
 new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
 {{this is a new 
 userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:This_is_a_new_user
 }} that new users can sport on their user pages.

 Have a good weekend everyone!

 regards
 Arun



 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana 
 t...@cscs.res.inwrote:

 Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

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Hi, I am sorry. I din't mean to make it a gender bias. I totally understand
your point and I think you are right.

I just thought, that way it could help. Still I think as per Gender Gap
Campaign, if we discuss and make it a point on the guidelines that as we
are trying to have more female wikipedians, be nice to new editors.

I understand the review process should not be based on the gender. And I am
not saying identifying female editors is the solution, but if they wish to
reveal (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Female_Wikipedians), the
community should think of something, which could help.

I am not deciding anything for them. I am trying to open new ways which
could help.


Thanks
,
http://twitter.com/an5umAnsuman


On 10 March 2013 18:47, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in wrote:

 Hi Ansuman,
 The gender gap link provides useful information about the kinds of
 projects people are working on. Thanks for pointing it out.

 Not sure about the need to identify female editors. Increasing relevant
 and gender-sensitive content whether in the Indian languages or in English
 could be a task for all of us.

 And yes, be nice to all newbies!

 Tejaswini


 On 10 March 2013 14:39, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having read this, I think you girls should start a RFC on English
 Wikipedia highlighting this issue, and may be many would agree to have a
 point added to WP:Deletion Policy (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy) or at least at
 Wikipedia:NPP#Be nice to the newbies (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP#Be_nice_to_the_newbies) and
 even Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers

 Also you may raise this issue at
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap. It's a possibility others may
 have been raised this issue already, and you can join the discussion.

 Many new comers work at WP:NPP and there is no way to recognize female
 editors on Wiki unless they mentioned it on their userpages. And they don't
 visit userpages.

 A solution could be to add a new gadget like markAdmins, which works like
 this

 http://en.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6636985curid=6466221action=history

 I don't know if it is possible technically.
 But if we could add a similar gadget and if they like to reveal their
 gender, then it'd be easy.

 Just my thought, many would find it extra burden. But you may go ahead
 and give it a try.


 Regards,
 Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um*
 *


 On 10 March 2013 11:48, swetapadma d. satpathy swetapadm...@gmail.comwrote:

 A very good read and truly written.

 Regards,
 Swetapadma



 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam 
 arunra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
 wikipedians mentioned in the article.

 Interesting to note the article mention the following...

 *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
 editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
 anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
 template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
 supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
 male-dominated world of code.
 *

 Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors
 pulling the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being
 less tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of
 their gender. I believe it more often than not the second.

 To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was
 another Women's Wikipedia 
 workshophttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikipedia_Women%27s_Workshop_Bangalore_2013running
  in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
 editor to take her through the paces of a new article title Nalini
 Nayak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalini_Nayak. This was being
 shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants to watch and
 learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a Speedy
 Delete notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one could
 Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of noteability.

 We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time
 getting on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know
 we have very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project
 this as a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may
 not be the case).

 Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of
 the news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the
 media too).

 For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised
 by many supportive men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
 Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
 capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!

 We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
 and to be careful

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Wiki meetup 5

[ansuman]

Glad to know, thanks for sharing. :-)

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On 10 March 2013 20:07, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 The event went well. Around 25 wikimedians and non-wikimedians attended
 the meetup. The meetup opened with an Introdcution to Openstack by Yogesh
 Ghttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Eternaltyroaction=editredlink=1.
 The Wiki part was next. Surya Prakash. S. A gave a presentation on the
 state of the Tamil Wiki projects. Then I introduced the Wikimedia India
 Chapter and its activities. There was a long question and answer session on
 Wikimedia's copyright policies, creative commons licenses, personality
 rights, notability criteria in various wiki projects. We hope to have
 regular meetups in Chennai in the future.

 For a list of attendees and photos, please see the event pages in Tamil
 and English Wikipedias.

 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5#Report
 2) http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/2nlq

 regards
 Bala


 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 Chennai is having a wiki meetup after a gap of nearly one and half years
 on March 9, 2013 (Saturday). There will be a couple of  short presentations
 on state of the Tamil wiki projects and an introduction of the Wikimedia
 India Chapter. All are welcome. If there are English or any other language
 wikimedians, who want to introduce / talk about their Wiki projects they
 are welcome to do so. (please send me a mail, so that I can plan the agenda
 accordingly). We will be sharing the venue and time slot with Indian Linux
 Users Group - Chennai (ILUGC) who are graciously helping us. People
 interested in open source projects can also attend the meetup. Those who
 are planning to attend please add your name to the meetup page here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai5

 Date  Time : 9 March 2013, 3-6 PM (Wiki specific part starts at 4 PM)
 Venue  :  Classroom No 3, Areo Space Engineering department, Near
 Gajendra Circle, IIT Madras.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The man who edited Tamil Wikipedia from prison.

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Thanks for sharing!

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On 9 March 2013 10:43, Rahmanuddin Shaik nani1o...@gmail.com wrote:

 Truly inspiring story. Thank you for sharing Ravi.

 On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to share this real life story of a man who edited Tamil
 wikipedia from prison !

 Meet Muthukrishnan ( http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/fcl ) from Malaysia. He
 is a retired school teacher and writer. He uses most of his spare time for
 writing detailed articles about Malaysia and Tamils in Malaysia. He is so
 involved in Wikipedia that once he personally visited the grave of a
 personality to write an article on him !

 Few weeks back, he was arrested by the Malaysian police on a case that
 challenged his freedom of expression for an article he wrote in a magazine
 (just to make it clear that he didn't create a real crime to land in
 prison). He was out of the prison in couple of days.

 What touched me a lot was that he provided an update in his wiki user
 page that he is in prison and that he will be back soon! He used the laptop
 of his grand daughter who visited him in the prison and made this edit
 under the supervision of the prison guards !

 He sees his contributions to Wikipedia as his lifetime work beyond the
 search for survival and wealth. He calls his 12 year old grand daughter as
 his inspiration to keep writing in Wikipedia.

 Can people be so dedicated to a movement ? !

 Do you have such stories in your project that inspire you? It is time to
 share, inspire and infuse new blood in the movement !

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian profile on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki

[ansuman]

Hi

Thanks for the update, and for bringing in such senior contributors.
I only knew him as User:Gurubrahma, Could you add his enwiki userpage link
to the  profile?


Regards,
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On 1 March 2013 21:09, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

  The featured Wikimedian of March is Srinivas Gunta from English
 Wikipedia. His profile can be viewed here:
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page

 Thanks

 Regards

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedians from Chennai

[ansuman]

Forwarded to Chennai list. But I am not subscribed there, so hope someone
will approve :-)

Regards,
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On 19 February 2013 08:31, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Mr. Vishnu from CIS is planning to come down to Chennai on Feb 26, 27,
 2013.

 It would be great if Wikipedians from in  around Chennai (or anywhere)
 can have an informal chat with him in person. . .

 For this, I am trying to find Wikipedians in  around Chennai... I dont
 know the exact mailing list for chennai.. so mailing our India list.

 Please point me to the right list or reply back to me personally..


 Thanks in advance,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] [PRESS] Wikipedia: Towards Closing the Gender Gap (Huffington Post UK - guest blog by Wikipedian Netha Hussain)

[ansuman]

Well done Netha. By seeing you contributing, I am sure many woman will come
forward. :-)

Ansuman



On 15 February 2013 14:35, noopur noo...@cis-india.org wrote:

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 Dear all,

 I am not sure if this was forwarded to the India list but Huffington post
 has a guest blog post from Netha this week. Congratulations Netha! :)

 Best,

 Noopur

 -- Forwarded message --
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 Date: Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM
 Subject: [Wmfcc-l] [PRESS] Wikipedia: Towards Closing the Gender Gap
 (Huffington Post UK - guest blog by Wikipedian Netha Hussain)
 To: wmfc...@lists.wikimedia.org



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Submit this story

 Most of us know Wikipedia as the free online encyclopedia, written
 collaboratively by millions of volunteers from around the world. I am 
 onehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain
  of those writers for the last 3 years. It was by writing articles about
 medical sciences that I started contributing to Wikipedia. Later, I was
 intrigued by the enormous volume of information available on Wikipedia, and
 was curious to find out who actually write them - which made me delve into
 the editor demographics. It really made me upset when I figured out that
 only around 9%http://grouplens.org/system/files/wp-gender-wikisym2011.pdf
  of the contributors to Wikipedia are women. In fact, I knew that so few
 women write on Wikipedia, but I hadn't expected the figure to be as low as
 9 percent.

 Diversity of opinion is the essence of any encyclopedia. Having equal
 representation from women will bring in wider perspectives, and increase
 the neutrality of the articles on Wikipedia. With men creating most of the
 content for Wikipedia, certain subjects might be covered more than a
 subject that may be of interest to women. Women not writing on Wikipedia
 mean that certain subjects may not be receiving the attention they
 rightfully deserve.

 The Wikimedia Foundation, the not-for-profit organization that hosts
 Wikipedia, had recognized this problem sooner than I did. The Wikimedia
 Foundation has launched various programs to bridge the gender gap, and the
 latest addition to the list is the WikiWomen's 
 Collaborativehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative
 .

 The WikiWomen's Collaborative was created in September 2012 by women
 around the world who edit Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, and want
 to encourage others to do the same. The project was aimed at helping women
 and transwomen to support one another and engage in programs that help the
 Wikimedian community to bring in new women editors. A variety of 
 eventshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative/Final_report,
 like edit-a-thons, interviews and wikiwomen parties were conducted as a
 part of the collaborative.

 In May 2012, a WikiWomenCamphttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp
  was organized for women in the Wikimedia movement to get together and
 discuss about the various issues related to being women involved in the
 Wikimedia community with like-minded women. Over 20 women from different
 countries participated in the camp to brainstorm solutions for existing
 problems that concern women, and suggest future plans to collaborate with
 one another. It is customary to conduct a WikiWomen's 
 luncheonhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiChix_2011_Lunch
  at Wikimania https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/, the global
 gathering of Wikimedians, exclusively for the women participants.

 Organizations like the Ada Initiative http://adainitiative.org/, named
 for the world's first programmer Countess Ada Lovelace, support women
 working with open knowledge projects like Wikipedia by creating resources
 for women in open stuff, conducting conferences and advising organizations
 on supporting women.

 Many outreach programs were conducted in women's universities all over the
 world

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

[ansuman]

Thanks for the clarification Sunil.

So I came to know that the committee  involved in the selection process,
most member doesn't have any wiki experience, and only few have on-wiki
experience. Correct me if I am wrong. It's surprising to know people, who
doesn't have experience on wiki recruiting people for the same!

May be it's fair as WMF has given the responsibility to CIS!

But I am worried about the support, as many are upset and not convinced,
whether or not they are going to support A2K.
Or may be A2K doesn't care about them who doesn't support, without their
support A2K is going to succeed!

I think we should support, as we can do nothing about it now. This way it's
best for everyone, at least for Wikipedia and it's sister projects.

I'd like to apologize if I didn't sound neutral before any time. But
believe me I don't want to make or see this worse.

And I'd like to have the A2K team (all of them) respond positively to the
criticism. You should take it as a part of your job! Sorry, I don't see any
other option.


 I have been a Free Software activist for the last 10 years. I have
 contributed to national policy formulation and practice w.r.t. Free
 Software, Open Standards and Open Content in multiple countries
 including Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Moldova and Tajikistan. But I have never
 submitted a line of code to any Free Software project. Similarly, I
 believe that those who don't edit Wikipedia can also make significant
 contributions to the Wikipedia movement.

 Can you tell me how this is similar?

You are into policy formulation and you never submitted a line of code.
Are you saying now you are able to write codes all of sudden even if you
don't know how to?

Anybody can contribute to Wikipedia, but to know everything and understand
completely, and then teach others it takes more time then you think.
And particularly in this case, it should not be like this!
If you don't believe me ask somebody you know active on English Wikipedia.

I think nobody is raising this other than me, because you don't have the
support from them!


Ansuman
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609

[ansuman]

FYI ...

One more user[1] has retired on English Wikipedia[2]. Whats going on !!

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Abhijay
[2] http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Abhijay

On 28 March 2012 02:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Srikeit, he might've had an account for five years but only recently
 did he start contributing. While the case of Pradeep is indeed
 different, we must take steps to prevent other potential editors from
 leaving.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Invitation for 2nd Bhubaneswar Meetup

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All the very best guys, Hope we will get new editors and remember I am
always there to assist newbies. Let them and me know :-)

On 26 March 2012 16:27, Mrutyunjaya Kar mkr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

The 2nd Bhubaneswar meetup (http://goo.gl/AccU6) is planned
 for Sunday 1st April 2012 (Odisha day), from 1030 to 1230 hrs at
 Webrains Solutions Private Limited,
 Infocity, Near Gulf Club, Bhubaneswar  by Odia Wiki Community.

 One community meetup between the existing Odia Wikipedians is also
 planned to be held on the same day from 1500 to 1630 hrs.

 If you're interested to join in the meet up on Sunday, 1st April
 Please register at: http://goo.gl/Qrznv

 Two more Wiki WorkShops at Angul (30th March) and Cuttack (31st March
 ) are also under consideration (Not confirmed till now).

 --
 Cheers
 ମୃତ୍ୟୁଞ୍ଜୟ କର
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wiktionary reached 1 lakh mile stone!

[ansuman]

Congratulations :-) ya please share more !

On 25 March 2012 10:07, Jobin Raju jobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations to all!

 With regards,
 Jobin Raju
 User: Jobin RV


 On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 8:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Anoopan for sharing this good news. Congratulations all those who
 contributes to Malayalam Wiktionary.

 If possible, can someone also share with some stats growth of Malayalam
 Wiktionary , especially on earlier key milestones ike when 25k, 50k,etc
 happened.
 And who are the key contributors for the growth ...
 What are the best practices?
 Did Malayalam Wiktionary get data from any Government Dictionary projects
 etc.

 It would certainly help other language Wiktionary projects.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am happy to inform you that Malayalam 
 Wiktionaryhttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A8_%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B5%BEhas
  completed 1
 lakh 
 entrieshttp://ml.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82today.

 Please join me to congratulate Malayalam Wikitionary team for achieving
 this milestone.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

[ansuman]

ya, anyway thanks Tinu and salman bhai !!

On 24 March 2012 11:15, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey thanks Theo, but there still is no log for 22-03-12.


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 This was all getting a bit complicated. I made those sub-pages earlier so
 the content can scale, I was also trying to keep the Indian IRC hours
 separate from the usual WMF IRC office hours.

 I reorganized things a bit. The meetings page is now a template that
 transcludes to other locations, the main India programs page, etc.

 All the India staff has to do is just update a single page from now, and
 the rest will be updated on its own.

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:India_Program/meetings

 It will automatically transclude and update here-

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program#Communication

 You can add more locations with the template and it will update on its
 own.

 Regards
 Theo


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:32 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Logs of the previous IRC meeting ( March 15, 2012) is available on this
 page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/meetings
 but it is not linked here
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program#Communication

 Hisham/ Noopur, may be you want to update there too or just avoid the
 need to update on both pages.

 -TC


 On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:19 AM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last log was on 12 October
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program . Please update


 On 23 March 2012 22:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Heya, since I was unable to join in yesterday, can I have a link to
 the archive/log?

 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 We're starting in 15 minutes at 9pm IST.

 Speak soon.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Dear All

 Reminder that there's an IRC for the community with India Program on
 22nd March at 9:00 pm IST in #wikimedia-office.  This session is an open
 house with no specific topics to be discussed. (This was scheduled 
 because
 we ran out of time in the previous IRC.  To avoid spamming lists, I won't
 be sending this to any other lists apart from this one.  Please do share
 this mail with whoever you know might be interested.

 (To join the IRC, all you have to do is go to:
 http://webchat.freenode.net/  and enter a nickname ( it does not
 require prior registration) and enter #wikimedia-office as the channel
 name.)

 I'll send a reminder 15 minutes before the session.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Hisham wrote:

 Here's the 
 linkhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/IRC_meeting_2012-03-15
  that
 gives the log of this meeting - for those who couldn't attend.

 As planned, the major topic of discussion was the Indic Languages
 initiatives.  We talked about the overall approach that Shiju has been
 following with several dozen community members.  We walked through the
  Medical project - currently underway in 
 Assamesehttp://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%BE:%E0%A7%B1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%8D%E0%A7%B0%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AA_%E0%A6%9A%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A7%8E%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9E%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8
 , 
 Teluguhttp://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:WikiProject/Medicine
 , Oriya 
 (Odia)http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%B0%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%B3%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%AA_%E0%AC%9A%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A4%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%B8%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%AC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%9C%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%9E%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%A8
   
 Malayalamhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%A6%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%88%E0%B4%A6%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%B6%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82.
  (This seeks to create vital articles in Indic wikis with the help of
 community members with medical/healthcare background, or users who are
 interested in healthcare articles.)  During the IRC, Jayanta informed us
 that the Bengali community have also started 
 ithttp://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:MED
 - which is great.   We also discussed the Translated Articles
 Enhancement 
 Projecthttp://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%80%E0%B2%A1%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AF:%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%A8%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%A6%E0%B2%97%E0%B3%8A%E0%B2%82%E0%B2%A1_%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%87%E0%B2%96%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%97%E0%B2%B3_%E0

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

[ansuman]

 and India Program.
   (For those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging
 system similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can
 join in by clicking on the following link:*
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office*.)  I have been
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.

 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH -
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on *March
 15th* and March 29th (both at *9pm IST* which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.

 The *March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages* and the one on
 March 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.







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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Telugu article count crosses 50, 000

[ansuman]

Congrats :-)

On 14 March 2012 18:53, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Congratulations, Telugu Wikipedians! This is an important milestone and
 you deserve all the warmest best wishes.

 May I suggest a community meetup to celebrate this?  A landmark like this
 can provide acceleration to your community - and could be the catalyst for
 more collaboration (WikiProjects, etc.)  and outreach.  A meetup must
 celebrate but can also look forward and initiate increased community
 building.  It can also be an opportunity to attract Telugu media coverage
 which will get new users and recognise existing editors.

 As always, do reach out if you need any support on any of this.

 Many thanks for sharing this, Rahimanuddin.

 Best

*hisham*

 On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:03 AM, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ wrote:

 Hi all

 Wikipedia Telugu's article count has crossed 50,000 mark. On this
 occasion, I congratulate everyone who was directly and indirectly involved.

 Now I request every tewiki user to concentrate on articles' quality
 improvement.

 తెవికీ సభ్యులందరి కృషి వలన తెవికీ ౫ వ్యాసాల మైలురాయిని దాట గలిగింది.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sreejithk2000 is now an admin on Commons

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great news... I was wondering when ?
Congrats Sreejith :-) All the best :)

On 6 March 2012 13:26, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Thanks a lot Sujeeth, I have loads of questions now to ask you :-)


 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
 parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats to Sreejith, you've done excellent work.
 Personally, thanks for cleaning up image details of stuff I've uploaded.
 : ) Cheers,

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats Sreejith! This is really good news :) W00t


 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Jobin Raju jobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations, Sreejith! All the Best for all future assignments!
 Best wishes,
 Jobin Raju
 User: Jobin RV



 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Pratik Lahoti 
 pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations Sreejith! Good luck! :)

 Best Wishes,
 Pratik Lahoti
 User:BPositive

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Arun Ramarathnam 
 arunra...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:17 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am happy to share the news  that  User:Sreejithk2000 is
 now an administrator on Wikimedia Commons.


 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests/Sreejithk2000



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Register: Learn Wikipedia editing while you sit at home

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Ya you are right, but we can do this for one Wikipedia per session.

Can anybody tell me the difference here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogincampaign=ACP1type=signupreturnto=Main+Page

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin/signup

 What is campaign=ACP1  ??

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  1. Lets not overuse site notices
 2. There are only 10 places, if you put a site-notice you must have
 atleast 10 times that number, if not more.

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 This would be a really brilliant session, no doubt. but I see very few or
 no new user here on this mailing list.
 How about adding a link to the Indic Wikipedias MediaWiki:Sitenotice ??

 On 6 March 2012 11:48, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Brilliant work Nitika! While I won't be available this time, I sure hope I
 can participate on one of these one day.
 Good luck with the initiative.

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hey All,

 It's feels great to receive so much enthusiasm and support from all of you
 regarding experimenting online outreach. But unfortunately, until now I
 haven't heard from anyone who'd want to participate in this session. I'm
 writing to invite all the people who are on this list but are not
 comfortable to edit - please come forward and register for this session.
 Here is the link to the registration form:
 http://tinyurl.com/RegistrationWikisession.

 Here are some more details about the session:

 *Date:* 10th March, Saturday (Sorry the date had to be changed. My earlier
 mailhttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-March/007183.html
  mentioned
 11th March but we have a Delhi monthly meet-up at the same time)
 *Time:* 3pm-6pm
 *Medium: *Google hangout. Google hangout lets you do a group video
 conferencing, and it's completely free. Thou, you might have to install
 plug ins.
 *Logistics:* Please make sure that you have a webcam installed and that
 your speaker and mic are functioning well. If you'd like to test audio,
 video, screen sharing, internet stability or just to test how Google
 hangout works please log in 15-30 mins before the start of the session
 - I'll be available on Google hangout starting 2.30pm to help you out with
 all the technical issues.
 *Maximum no. of participants:* 9 participants + 1 facilitator. Up to10
 people can do a google hangout together. Participation will be confirmed on
 the basis of first come first registration.

 Please feel free to forward this mail to anyone who you think might be
 interested. Let me know if you have any questions at all about the session.
 Hoping to hear from many of you! :-)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game

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cracking... information :-) Thanks for sharing Srikanth L and nifty job
Yuvi Panda, happy for you :-)

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 Just to clarify that I'm not a drop out :) (
 http://yuvi.in/blog/college-drop/)

 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  Excellent!
 
 
 
  2012/2/23 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com:
  http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece
 
  Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by
  getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and
 useful.
  For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki
  last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help
 run
  Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened
 if I
  stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-blr] Bangalore WikiMeetup 42 - A report !

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Huggle] 1. HuggleCon

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Thanks Srikanth for sharing :)

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 For the RC Patrol.
 And yes, we have a Huggle Mailing List ... ;-)

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 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:43:08 +0100
 Subject: [Huggle] 1. HuggleCon
 To: hug...@lists.wikimedia.org

 Hello,

 the first IRC meeting Huggle (HuggleCon) will be on *4th March at 18:00
 UTC*.
 Other timezones, see:

 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=HuggleConiso=20120304T18ah=1

 The topics are:
 _*1. Developer conference part (30 minutes)*_

  * Huggle 3
  * New development concept
  * Other

 _*2.1 Beta-testers conference part (20-25 minutes)
 *_ _*With the developers
 *_

  * New beta-testing concept
  * Why some users left Huggle and are now using other tools?

 _*2.2. Mini-Workshop (5-10 mins): How to test huggle correctly to find
 bugs?*_

 _*3. Supporting (open end)*_
 _*Feel free to ask any contributors about Huggle*_

 Thanks to all who participated in the doodle-poll. I'm glad to see you
 all soon.
 *The conference will be held in the IRC channel #huggle.*

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki workshop at Cummins College of Engineering - Pune

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Good going Pratik, Ram and Wasim. Keep up the GOOD WORK :)
Thanks for sharing

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 Awesome.

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  I am happy to inform you that a basic Wikipedia workshop
  was successfully conducted for the students of Cummins College of
  Engineering for Women(CCOEW), Pune on 4th February 2012.
 
  The main purpose of the workshop was to  spread awareness about editing
  Wikipedia and to encourage the female editors. The program was conducted
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  (CA's) Pratik Lahoti, Ram Shankar Yadav and myself. The students were
  excited to be at the workshop and were present in huge numbers.
 
  The workshop details, detailed report and some snaps are uploaded here
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Workshop_at_CCOEW_Pune
 
  Please let us know your suggestions/Ideas to help us improve and organize
  such events in future.
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Bangalore Wikimeetup 41 / Wiki Eleven Celebrations

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11 on 11th celebrations :) Thanks for sharing Tinu :)

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Tinu Cherian (Wikimedia India) 
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 Hi all,
 Apologies for much delay for the report on Bangalore Wikimeetup 41
 / Wiki Eleven Celebrations.

 The Bangalore Wikimeetup 41 / Wiki Eleven Celebrations was held at the
 office of The Centre for Internet  Society, Domlur , Bangalore ( also the
 India chapter official office) on 15 Jan 2012, Sunday 4-6 PM. [1]  The
 regular second Sunday Bangalore meetup of January was postponed to the
 third Sunday, to coincide with the Wikipedia 11th anniversary.

 The Bangalore Meetup banner which we had used for a whole year, got a
 small promotion this year. [2] :)

 Only 11 people attended the meetup, thanks to popular festivals like
 Pongal and Sankranthi falling on the same weekend. You may compare this
 with attendance of 250+ participants for the 10 the anniversary
 celebrations in Bangalore, a year ago. [3]

 The participants introduced themselves, after which Arun Ramaratnam led
 the meetup with an introduction to Bangalore Meetups and Wikipedia 11th
 anniversary.  We also experimented Google hangout with other cities in
 India, who were conducting similar events [4]. Unfortunately, the
 audio-video quality wasn't very good, probably due to the low internet
 bandwidth. Nevertheless, It was great to see the live celebrations
 happening in the different parts of India.

 The Wikimedia India chapter also completed its first anniversary of
 official operations. The Chapter President, Arjuna Rao Chavala explained
 the history of the chapter and its future plans. Naveen P Francis announced
 the launch of the revamped Wikimedia India Portals and the project gateways.

 The Kannada SIG Chair, Omshiva Prakash briefed about the recent Kannada
 Wikipedia 9th Anniversary celebrations, held in Bangalore, earlier that
 week. The crowd discussed on how to intensify the outreach work around
 Bangalore and in India.

 The last, but not the least, was the most awaited part - Wiki 11
 celebrations cake cutting ! [5] . The  meetup concluded with the customary
 group photo sessions [6]. A full collection of meetup photos can be found
 here [7]

 We thank everyone who attended the meetup and celebrations.


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 Tinu Cherian

 Notes:
 1) 
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/**WikiMeetups/Bangalore/**Bangalore41http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiMeetups/Bangalore/Bangalore41
 2) http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_**
 Meetup_Jan2012_16.03.23.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_Meetup_Jan2012_16.03.23.jpg
 3) 
 http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Bangalorehttp://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore
 4) http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_**
 Meetup_Jan2012_16.50.35.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_Meetup_Jan2012_16.50.35.jpg
 5) http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_**
 Meetup_Jan2012_16.10.51.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bangalore_W11_Meetup_Jan2012_16.10.51.jpg
 6) http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/File:WikiEleven_Blore_**
 the_group.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiEleven_Blore_the_group.jpg
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reordering interwiki list

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Okay thanks for the answer, So it'd automatically sort all the language
according to the language preferences :)

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interwiki links in main page in allmost all wikies are customized. It
 is practically not possible to include all 250+ interwikies to
 considerably short main page. In articles, taking up closly related or
 our second language to top of the interwiki list will sure be an added
 advantage for readers. Ultimatly wp is sharing informations to its
 readers. For eg. For Malayalam, a list starting from English, Hindi,
 Tamil, Kannada, Sanskrit, etc can be handy to many users than
 providing a list starting 'not even heard' languages.

 On 03/02/2012, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:
  Can someone tell me how exactly It'd be useful ?, AFAIK we can customize
  which wikipedias to be shown on Main Page.
 
  On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
  parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This would be useful.
  As a side note, if you open the Main Page of any non Indic Wikipedia,
  you'd notice that there are NO links to any Indian language wikipedia's
 on
  the left.
  Cheers,
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi, currently interwiki list is in english alphabetical order. A
  customizable (both wiki level and user level) interwiki list Will be
  an added advantage for closly related wiki like ours. There is a very
  old bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867
 
  i hope adding your inputs, and may be a local consensus page link will
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki meetups in Assam - A small report

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 great heights. Soon AS wiki wiki celebrate its 10th
 anniversary. I am sure community will have big plans to celebrate it.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Account Creation Requests during Wiki Events

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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Philippe Beaudette
phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 In addition, if you let me know, I can be on the lookout as well, or grant
 temporary account creator permissions.
 great :) Like you did for Kolkata event to Nitika :)
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 The IP details are as follows:

 IP Info IP address: 115.119.224.66  IP country:  India  IP Address state: 
 Andhra
 Pradesh  IP Address city: Hyderabad  IP latitude: 17.3753  IP longitude:
 78.4744  ISP: Tata Communications  Organization: Tata Communications


 Any clues on this.


   Fred Bauder (checkuser and admin) told me yesterday these requests
are from bangalore or mumbai.


 Geolocating to a city does not mean the company that owns the ip address
 is in the same city.

I don't know how these info. vary when we check :)


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 Was there a wiki session in mumbai recently ?? Five (or more) ACC
 requests from an IP address have made. And they (one/two of them) had
 dropped all the request assuming It was from a single user. So I request
 all of you to leave a note at any ACC Tool Admin
 http://toolserver.org/~acc/statistics.php?page=Users#Admin (List) or
 come to IRC  http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-accounts 
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 the requests. Usually they don't drop if the requests are from different
 E-mail IDs and it passes other checks. But to avoid confusion it's better
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115.119.224.66:
   2012-02-04 06:59:52 Rashaditi
   2012-02-04 07:02:13 Khageshwari
   2012-02-04 07:05:11 Poojadhatrak
   2012-02-04 07:14:45  Priyanaka.Babar
   2012-02-04 07:24:14 Abhilashapoonam (All UTC)

 I don't know whether these requests were made during a wiki event or not.
 Just thought It could be an undeclared wiki session by any wikipedian.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Reordering interwiki list

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Can someone tell me how exactly It'd be useful ?, AFAIK we can customize
which wikipedias to be shown on Main Page.

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parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:

 This would be useful.
 As a side note, if you open the Main Page of any non Indic Wikipedia,
 you'd notice that there are NO links to any Indian language wikipedia's on
 the left.
 Cheers,



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 Hi, currently interwiki list is in english alphabetical order. A
 customizable (both wiki level and user level) interwiki list Will be
 an added advantage for closly related wiki like ours. There is a very
 old bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867

 i hope adding your inputs, and may be a local consensus page link will
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Copyright Violation by aahwaan.com

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Statistics :  http://www.aahwaan.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Statistics


On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Srikant Kedia wikiodis...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,

 Please see the site http://www.aahwaan.com/wiki/ , Here there is a
 copyright violation, as the content is used from Wikipedia..

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 8th Birthday of Bengali Wikipedia

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Happy Birthday bn.wikipedia :) Wish you lacs of new users and articles :)

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote:

 Happy birthday to all Bengali Wikipedians!

 From English wikipedians working on India articles.

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 Congrats to Ragib, Bellayet, Tanvir, Nasir and everyone!!!


 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations to all who are involve  :)

 regards
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 Dear All,
 Today 27 January http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/?diff=6 is 8th
 Birthday of Bengali Wikipedia http://bn.wikipedia.org. I wish a very
 Happy Birthday to Bengali Wikipedia.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-gu] Report on small meetup in Ahmedabad

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Nice report, thanks for sharing Arnav :) Keep it up :-)

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello everyone,

 On 24th January 2012, a small meetup was organized in L.D. College of
 Engineering Ahmedabad, I thank Kothari Harsh and Shah Smit from the college
 to organize this on such short notice (less than 24 hours). After the
 successful photo walk and a small Wiki 11 celebration, I thought this would
 help out in sustaining a community there too.

 The meetup was attended by 7 people in total, I gave them a small
 presentation of Wikipedia and idea of how exactly the community works and
 what does a community do. I also shared my experiences as a CA in IEP and
 as an editor on EN and GU WP too for past 1 year.

 After the presentation we had a good discussion on how they can help
 building a strong community from Gujarat, Kartik Mistry shared his
 experiences of working collaboratively in FOSS and Debian Community. He
 blogged http://kartikm.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/meeting-with-arnav/about 
 this meetup too.

 I also showed them Gujarat 
 Transliterationhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Narayam/Guajrati/Transliterationand
  Gujarati
 Inscripthttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Narayam/Gujarati/InScriptof
  Extension:Narayam which needs help, Kartik has agreed to help us in
 this. Thanks.

 I also showed them the list of places of interest in Ahmedabad which could
 be developed as articles User:AhsLin/Ahmedabad, which Ashwin created and
 asked them to start helping out in this too.

 I request everyone from the community and WMF to help them as and when
 required, and lets have one strong community from Gujarat too.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Swarooprao (MikeLynch) is our newest admin on English Wikipedia

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Hey many Congrats :) Happy to see you as an admin. I din't know you were on
RFA, missed the chance to convey my support :) Keep it up :)

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
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 WOW !!

 Congrats Swaroop Rao !!!

 -Sudhanwa


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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MikeLynch#Congratulations

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[Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikipedia-OR] successful wiki academy at Secondary Board High school , Cuttack

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Date: Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:40 PM
Subject: [Wikipedia-OR] successful wiki academy at Secondary Board High
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Dear Odia Community

today we conducted the first Odia wiki Academy at the Secondary board high
school , Cuttack to an enthusiastic crowd of 50+ students of class 9. in
today's initiative i was joined by Srikant, Jyotiprakash  Kalakanta on the
venue, as well as great support as usual by  subhashis at the foundation .

today's sessions covered the introduction to wiki, wiki @ Indian languages
 Odia wiki. the session was of 1.30 hr duration  joined by computer
teachers of the school. Due to time constraint we parked the technical
session to happen after two weeks at the same format.

the session seems to have good impact on the young minds and lets hope we
will get good traction with some enthusiastic young wikipedians. if this is
successful the school is interested to conduct the same for class 8 or
other students in future.

At this moment i thank valuable support by all of u  good support by Mr
Daitari Sir, HeadMaster , SBHS Cuttack  Swagatika Didi for their support .

the event details  images are uploaded in the following locations.
Also attched the ppt presented to the student on this occasion . feel free
to use, modify it in future events.

http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:%E0%AC%AE%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%B3%E0%AC%A3/%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%9F%E0%AC%95/%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%A3%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B0%E0%AC%BF_%E0%AC%AC%E0%AD%8B%E0%AC%B0%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC_%E0%AC%B9%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%95%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B2%E0%AD%A7

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SOPA protest - Bengali Wikipedia placed a banner, what about other Indic language wikis?

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+1 to Srikanth

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 02:12, Alolita Sharma alolita.sha...@gmail.comwrote:

 HI Tanvir, Srikanth,

 Great to hear No-SOPA banners being considered to be on Bengali and Tamil
 wikipedias.

 Having translations on SOPA articles would be great. Here is the
 whitelist that we plan to have available on en.wp


 Thanks for the whitelist. May I request you / WMF to consider adding pages
 in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_censorship_by_country to
 whitelist as well? SOPA is a big thing in US, but similar insane things are
 happening elsewhere too (India too!) and even if Wikimedia Community in
 India prefers to be silent, protests needs to happen. We are have started
 one such at http://publictransit.in (http://busroutes.in will soon have
 this) and no better article than
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_India to explain.
 Time will tell if protests need to intensify in India and I hope the online
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Geo Tag info from JPEG or other WikiCommons images

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Hello,

You should ask  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sreejithk2000 . Or
you can ask at *commons*-l...@lists.wikimedia.org if you haven't subscribed
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 Please excuse me for writing this question here.
 I am not sure what is right mailing list for this question. so posting
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 Will we be able to search photos by a geographic co-ordinates from our
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Getting ready for production; help us with WebFonts

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Sorry for late, Done except one. :)

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Santhosh Thottingal 
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 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
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  Hi,
  Even though Tamil translation for Webfont was done, on retrospect, I had
 a
  feeling if WebFonts is one extension that should not be translated at
 all.
  (at least the interface messages, if not system messages) since the
 purpose
  of the extension was to display legible text for a user who doesnt have
  font, and translating the interface messages in a language user doesnt
 have
  font, doesnt make sense. Correct me if am wrong.

 That is true for font menu, font names etc. But we have 2-3 messages
 about preference page entry, a reset menu item  that we are sure that
 we can display using webfonts itself. Total 5 messages.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Assamese wikipedia crossed the 1000 article milestone

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Thanks for sharing Shiju, Congrats on reaching 1000 milestone :)

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 Congrats Assamese guys! Glad to see the progress.

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 Dear All,

 Assamese wikipedia has crossed the 1000 article milestone yesterday (2012
 January 7). Congrats to all Assamese wikipedians who contributed to this. 
 Started
 in 2002 June 2 http://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/?diff=1, Assamese
 wikipedia is the first Indic Language wikipedia. Assamese wikipedia will
 celebrate its 10th Anniversery this year June.


 I remember last year this time Assamese 
 wikipediahttp://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/indian-language-wikipedias-2010-statistical-report/was
  having just 300 articles and just one highly active user. The excellent
 efforts put forward by some of the senior community members using various
 social networking sites are helping Assamese wikipedia to grow its
 community. Now it crossed 1000 article milestone and has more than 10 high
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Season greetings: Boat Club donation!

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+1 Srikanth, same feeling :)

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for sharing. That was a very nice gesture from them.

 cheers
 Arun


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 Hello all,
 As we count down to the end of the year, this personal appeal to donate
 to Wikipedia, made by the Boat club was something very genuine and made me
 smile:
 http://notesandstones.blogspot.com/2011/12/v-for-wikipedia-2011.html

 I saw it thru a friend's FB page. The friend *actually* donated after he
 saw this :) I am not sure if you all have seen this already.

 Happy holidays!
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedians participation in CMDA IT Expo, 2011- (15 to 18 Dec. 2011)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012

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hmmm, righteous. Thanks :)

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Result can only be positive - both of you have nothing to loose if
 nothing comes of it, why not try :)

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 If only we two suggest, you thinkk it will work? :)

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 If you look at it that way, Coimbatore deserves one too. Best, we
 contact the foundation and suggest this.

 On 12/28/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote:
  No such events in Bangaluuruu :(
 
  On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sumana Harihareswara 
  suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
  On 12/14/2011 12:24 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
   You are invited to the Pune Wikimedia hackathon.
  
   Date: 10-12 February 2012
   Venue: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies  Research (SICSR) at
   Symbiosis International University, Pune
   Extremely rough event page, soon to get more details:
   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Hackathon_Feb_2012
  
   A Wikimedia hackathon is a chance to learn how to develop using
   MediaWiki, Phonegap, and our other technologies, and to work alongside
   experts. Software engineers, designers, and translators are welcome.
   We're tentatively planning to focus on internationalisation and
   localisation, mobile and offline Wikipedia access, and the gadgets
   framework.  I aim to get more details in the next two weeks.
  
   If you're interested, please leave your name and your email address,
 or
   a link to your user page, on that event page. (A real registration
   system is coming soon.)  Thanks!
  
   And please feel free to publicize this elsewhere.  I've heard that,
 when
   marketing, you have to get the message to the recipient three times in
   three different ways before you have a good chance they've noticed it.
   So if you need something to help get the word out -- a sample
   tweet/dent, a leaflet, etc. -- let me know.
  
   Thanks!
  
 
  The registration page (to request an invitation to attend) is now open.
 
  Shortlink: http://is.gd/rjpNOA
 
  Full link:
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

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Congrats Subha Paa. :) Special Welcome on behalf of Odia Community. Thanks
to WMF  Team.

The community (bangalore) will miss you for sure. Thanks for your support.
Thanks for being my Roommate.

Working with Wikipedia has been a wonderful experience. We started in the
same place, hope we never stop :)

Welcome to Dilli and All the Best :)

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Ashwin Baindur
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 Congrats Subhashish, all the best in your new post.

 Warm regards,

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 On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:17 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally 
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 Congratulations Subha!


 -RadhaKrishna



 On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 As you might be aware, the Consultant, Team Support position is to be
 filled as part of the India Programs team.  (
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004251.html.)


 I am really pleased and excited to announce that Subhashish Panigrahi
 has agreed to join as Consultant, Community  Program Support.

 Some of you might know Subhashish (or Subha as he's also called.) He is
 all of 23 and a wonderful Wikimedian from Odisha.  He has a BE in
 Biotechnology from Sapthagiri College of Engineering, Bangalore.  He has
 worked for about 1 1/2 years in business development and is currently based
 in Bangalore.  He's been an active Wikimedian since a friend of his
 attended a Wikipedia 10th event in Bangalore in January and told Subha
 about Wikipedia.  Subha then spent considerable time - quite a bit of it in
 Shiju Alex's living room apparently :-) - learning about Wikipedia.  Since
 then, he's been on fire!  He's helped the Bangalore community organise the
 monthly meet-ups, been a central figure in building community  momentum
 for Odia Wikipedia and has conducted outreach programs for Odia projects
 back home in Odisha as well as in Bangalore. He's also been helping out
 other projects and communities; a couple of weekends ago he was in Chennai
 conducting a WikiAcademy there.  He is a fantastically inspiring example of
 a complete outsider being welcomed into the family, having his hand held in
 his growth as a newbie, charging forward taking responsibility  ownership
 and then spreading his skills  knowledge to others. He is also one of the
 sweetest human beings I have ever met. He is a perfect example of the
 Wikimedia Dream.

 His interests (outside of Wikimedia) are cooking, graphic design and
 handwriting analysis.  (I bet most of you who know Subha don't know that
 last bit about him.  So the next time you see him, show him your writing
 and get him to reveal your deep dark secrets!)  He has also been
 involved with campaigns for social work during the floods and cholera
 outbreak in Odisha and been involved with a Odisha community organisation,
 eOdissa.com http://eodissa.com/.

 Originally, the Consultant, Team Support position (
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs#Team_Structure)
  was
 to manage the back-end aspects of India Programs (basic accounting, basic
 personnel management, office administration, travel support, expense
 statement management, logistics support for the community, etc.) I have
 been looking at the actual work load involved and I do not think this is a
 full time role.  The functions listed are essential and need to be done -
 but there is an opportunity to improve the richness of the position and
 it's value to the community.  I'm therefore proposing that the Consultant,
 Team Support be redesignated to Consultant, Community  Program Support.
 I envisage this position to have about 1/3 of time spent on the back-end
 work listed above but 2/3 of time can be very productively utilised
 supporting community efforts - such as helping community building 
 outreach and supporting community-led initiatives.  An important
 consideration I have for this redesignation is after looking at the
 specific skills that Subha brings to the table; I want to make sure that he
 has the required space to realise his potential and to support the
 community and movement.

 Subha will of course continue to pursue his personal voluntary work for
 and as part of the Wikimedia community.  The one question that he
 emphasized during the selection process was whether he would retain the
 flexibility to continue to pursue his personal passions on Wikimedia; the
 answer he got was a loud Y-E-S!!!  :-)  I'm delighted to have another
 community member joining the team.

 He'll formally start in Delhi on January 9th 2012.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] What's in it for me?

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Wow, Nice awesome responses. Thanks to all for detailed thoughts.

And Srikanth, I know this is not enough for you ;)  just keep up the good
work and have faith. Don't get confused.

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 No, no offline. Please switch to Wikipedia-in-en if you must but not
 offline. Its too important a debate to waste offline.


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 On 19-Dec-2011, at 5:35 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:

  Nitika, while you're at it, also try and look into what may get us
  more women editors. I have a bunch of reasons and ideas which may
  someday, come out.

 Sure Srikanth! I'd love to get more women editors onboard. And I'd love
 to hear your ideas.  Let's discuss this offline - I'll write to you
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