I see you have several other responses, hopefully you'll get a solution.
I would just caution you about assuming it will / won't work in your situation,
until you try it. (I realize you can't really try it without the equipment)
I'll just give one example from a few years ago: I was
I listened to this webinar last week , they have now loaded it on Youtube.
The best news I picked up from it was that they expect hardware to be available
early second quarter 2011. I hope that is accurate, I was afraid it would be
I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer
suggestions. Can you elaborate?
(I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But
sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never bothered
setting them up.)
On Aug 20,
I would think you would want to have it setup to just switch quickly to a
static address via profile or script or something.
But perhaps another solution would be to use a switch or hub? If your windows
computer is plugged into that (rather than directly into a radio), it will keep
Don't know if this is possible at your site, but can you add a second AP? Just
switch polarity, channels and try to separate the antenna by 10'+
Then start moving clients over until you have them ~50/50.
On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Umac when running good this morning
Whoops, sorry. My last reply suggested adding an AP w/different polarity. That
would require going to 1/2 the clients and rotating their antenna. (was
thinking of Trango's automatic polarity switching)
On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Umac when running good this morning around 5.5%
I use 5MHz channels and like them.
One thing I have worried about, but maybe hasn't been a problem: if someone
else is scanning for regular WiFi channels, they won't see my 5MHz ones. So
they might pick a channel that overlaps my gear. Generally my S/N ratio is
high enough that I haven't
I don't know about WRAP, but for War2 boards I'm pretty sure you need
to ssh (putty) into it, go into System ... System Console. Then type
in system factory. That resets everything to factory defaults (ip
address, passwords, everything)
You can do the same process on War1 boards,
I'm assuming this is hopeless, but somebody here can probably confirm:
Verizon has fiber running down the dirt road that passes by a grain
leg I'm using. (I'm told it was put in for 911 service to Bath, MI)
Is it possible to have them tap into it and sell bulk bandwidth to
me? For less
I built one using Zotac Ion motherboard.
Complete price was just over $200. Running eval of Win7 currently.
Works pretty well for Hulu Netflix WatchNow. (hoping for better
flash drivers that
RE the 30 meter antennas
possibly he is referring to the height limits on antennas (and not the
size)? The RO document said client antennas had to be 10m AGL, and
AP antennas had to be less than 30m.
First, take everything I saw about this with a grain of salt, because
I'm no expert.
From my reading of the RO, there are two types of whitespace device.
There is a low power version, that I think is intended to be like a
mini-PCI card, installed in a laptop. There are no height
This is one of the reasons I like StarOS so much. The developers also
run a WISP in their ski town (about 300 customers a few years ago, I
Much more believable when they said do it this way and it works, I
could trust them.
Are there other wireless companies that do this?
I'm not so sure about this if it is going in a rack, seems like
it might be worthwhile to get a higher performance CPU with more max
RAM ( VMware).
And for a box at the base of a tower, seems big and hungry (200W AC
Could you compare it to:
You wouldn't need a NIC unless you want dual ethernet (comes with one
But you do need to put in a stick of laptop memory and a boot device.
Maybe USB flash, IDECF or SATA DOM, because the CF slot is hard to
Oh, the one I have says 19V DC power brick, so I don't
Oh, Josh, just realized that MSI Wind computer has no PCI or PCIe
slots, nor ATA. Anything you add to it would have to go into USB,
SATA, CF slot or miniPCI express slot. So it would be harder to add a
second ethernet to this version.
If you want to route, it would either be USB ethernet
might be less.
On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
Well we are looking for a gig capable router - rackmountable
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Jul 28, 2009, at 5:21 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
I'm not so sure about
Since you mention StarOS, I have to ask: why not just use the Lucaya
If you skip the amps, the X2000 would let your climber take up a
replacement radio and change two RF cables and one ethernet cable.
(for two radios)
Just curious why you seem to reject the StarOS
What sort of test equipment do you use to check radios and antenna SWR?
My ham friend has a Bird Wattmeter, he was suggesting I get a slug
that would cover 900MHz and another for 2.4. Would I get any useful
information from a Wattmeter?
On Jun 21, 2009, at 10:33 AM,
I agree with your sentiment that 900 stuff is too expensive.
But I was pleasantly surprised. while looking around DoubleRadius last
weekend, to see Tranzeo TR-SL9 client radios for $234. (8dB or N
connector, take your pick). I missed any announcement of them.
One could hope that a multipack
On May 26, 2009, at 7:28 PM, George Rogato wrote:
So I take it there is no cell phone service that works off wifi as
George, look into T-Mobile's Hotspot at Home service. It came out
nationwide summer 2007. It will use Wifi, and then smoothly switch to
a t-mobile tower if
Buffalo gear was very hard to find in the US for the last few years,
due to the legal action against them. I see that was changed in
December, and you can buy Buffalo wifi gear again.
Has anyone used the WHR-G300N? That one is draft N, plus you can load
dd-wrt on it (I think that is
Lucaya X4000 (StarOS) can do full duplex and is PoE. (might not be
certified for US 4.9?)
On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
Does anyone know of a 4.9 Radio that is PoE and Full Duplex?
I watched the tranzeo wimax 3.65 webinar a few weeks back. They have
that pico base station for about $1700. I asked, and they said yes, it
would work with an omni. I know everybody says don't use an omni, but
maybe it would be OK on 3.65?
I was curious because most of my grain
I think it took me about four hours to do my 33 households. (to
complete entire 477)
This was converting six zip codes into seven census tracts, so I still
don't see much advantage to the switch.
So the census tracts might change in 2012? Dang! So should we be
saving the LAT/LON of the
I've also had problems getting started with Radio Mobile. I haven't
tried it yet, but Snowcrash on the StarOS forums suggested the
tutorial at this site.
It looks promising. Maybe better printed out on a black white
Like Jack says, this is nothing like a whitespaces device.
You can download the first draft of the specifications at the FCC, I
think it is about 120 pages. The devices are supposed to have a
sensing radio to detect existing tv channels, in addition to detecting
Like Jack suggests, you really need to check with Verizon.
I'm pretty sure there might be potential features that Sprint has
turned on for that phone, that would prevent Verizon from working with
it. For instance, I had an older Verizon phone that didn't include
location features and
Someone on StarOS forums suggested Enco. I haven't tried them yet, but
their catalog is loaded with goodies.
Looks like these might be 95 cents...
On Feb 4, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Looking for a good source, good deal for
Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet?
It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their
current ones shows a 5 pin connector.
On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Matt wrote:
I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the 72
volt battery packs
says Battery Volt-Amp-Hour Capacity is 3360 (divide by 24?)
On Jan 21, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Do you know how many AmpHours (Ah) the APC XL Ultra Battery
pack is spec'd
I think Hulu (at least) was having problems. We had a viewing party
in our conference room. I had ABC over-the-air on the projector, but
kept a computer streaming Hulu on backup. It seemed to be
consistently about a minute behind the live broadcast.
A few seconds delay seems reasonable to
I was browsing around Newegg over the weekend and ran across this:
XOHM Modem by ZyXEL - $75
Is that pricing typical for 2.5GHz Wimax CPE? Is it locked down for
use with XOHM?
Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several
legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
take a break while climbing.
It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
way while climbing the ladder. Just curious
. So I'm
thinking something will catch before falling too far.
On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
What happens when you fall?
John Valenti wrote:
Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage? I'm on several
legs with the cages and they seem
I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their
update. (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug) Or is
there some other problem?
Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
And Merry Christmas to you, too!
On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon
I started using Tranzeo for 900MHz a few months back. When they work,
they seem to do pretty well. But I'm having trouble debugging them.
I haven't found a method for the following, maybe I'm missing something?
- login to the client (or even AP) radio, use ping to check
Lucaya/StarOS/Valemount/SOS/VNC(*) put on a training session last
January in the Caribbean. Last I heard they were planning one for
Minnesota in Jan '09. You best bet to learn about them would be thru
the StarOS forums.
(*) This is one of my complaints about StarOS - what the heck do I
One nice feature of this Blockbuster device is that it seems to
download and store the video, so it doesn't rely on streaming.
Also, I looked at their website and it seems like the good videos
cost $3.99 (not 1.99). The videos did seem to be more recent than the
ones Netflix offers.
Can you have the Mikrotik ping your core? (it sounds like you have
only done the other direction) Also, try full size ping packets.
Sometimes short packets are fine, and big ones cause failures.
After having a batch of bad consumer wifi routers, I have started
hooking up a few
Thanks again for this!
A few comments:
(1) I was surprised to see channels 3 4 included, since those are
prohibited everywhere (right?)
(2) you might include a note on your web pages about the 32km canadian
border limitation, also the 40/60km Mexican border limit.
see Antenna Requirements on page 101. Fixed device transmit antenna
limited to MAX 30 meters high, also the receive antenna must be MIN 10
On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:48 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
I don't think Fresnel is going to be too much of a problem. Which page
did you pick up that
Also channel 4 is disallowed.
Does anybody know what the 13 major markets are (related to PLMPS
Marlon, it sounds like you are plowing thru it at the same rate I am.
On Nov 19, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We'll be allowed to go all the way down to channel 2.
On page 5 in section 8 (Fixed devices), it says fixed devices will
be required to operate with antennas mounted outdoors ...
I suppose you could run coax from a TVBD inside, but it seems like the
current method of POE to an outdoor device is preferred? So we are
still looking at
Where are you reading this on page 43?
And I've made it farther back in the report...
Is Appendix B (Final Rules) the actual rule? That doesn't look good,
see Antenna Requirements on page 101. Not only is the transmit antenna
limited to 30 meters high, but the receive antenna must
Could you elaborate on why this is a bad idea?
I'm slightly interested in it for low cost connections. In my current
area, I don't have a problem finding grain legs for AP sites. These
would be dense enough that I could build a great network with white
spaces cells and 5GHz backhauls.
Just curious why you wouldn't go with a wired solution? Seems like a
$200 switch and a box of Cat5 would be an easy fix. Suppose you would
want to add some wifi support to it, also. (Open-Mesh, StarOS, or
One item I picked up from the original media article was that
I don't know of any paid StarOS consultants. (I get most of my ideas
from the StarOS forum at www.staros.com)
Are both ends StarOS? If so, I would be happy to look at it for you
for free. (but I would only grade myself B based on my two years of
using staros -- there are
Vegetation might have a huge impact on the coverage area. I've seen
pictures of your area, it looks like heaven to me. My experience is
that the first two trees will eat up a 5.8 signal, so expanding the
coverage area by 80% just adds another tree or two.
It might be very sensible
My best experiences have been with StarOS clients connecting to
StarOS APs. Regarding disconnects, I don't see that much. I like to
program the client radio's ping watchdog to hit the AP every 10
seconds. Then when I'm in the association page on the AP, all the
clients will have
I've always been impressed by the webcams that Borealis Broadband has
It looks like those are Mobotix.
When you say expensive, can you give some sample prices. (there
is a link off to a vendor on URL above, they seem to start at
Marlon, thanks for that, very helpful.
I notice you don't mention half and quarter size channels as another
solution. Is that something you've thought about?
I just started with 2.4 gear last year (StarOS), so I've generally
been using cloaking from the beginning. I think it has helped me
I'm not sure why the tech sheet on it doesn't mention the true power
output, but it is a 2+ watt radio. I was thinking about using a pair
for amateur radio applications, where I don't have to stay within the
part 15 limits. (but I suppose I'll be able to turn the power down
This does seem to good to be true. Could you provide more details on
these links (for instance, tower heights, or maybe even coordinates
that I can look over the path)?
I was at a roadshow earlier this year. A Redline rep was there, he
said that 3650 wasn't all that great thru trees.
Do you find this true for Trango 900 also?
I've not had good luck with those. Mine seem to quit working with the
I do like them for scanning for noise; and the software switchable
horizontal / vertical is nice.
On June 13, at 5:59 PM June 13, Tom DeReggi wrote:
It won't get you to 1Gbps, but Trango has their Giga links on sale
for about $10k. That is 100Mbps full duplex, then another $1500 gets
you a software upgrade key to 300Mbps full duplex.
That would be a licensed link at 18GHz.
(let us know what you end up with)
On April 30, at 10:14 AM
I don' t know if this will help, but it is possible to give your
Verizon account a nickname. Then messages would be sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Possibly that would have different rules for
filtering out spam? (just speculating, I don't know)
My problem was the opposite, I was
One of the Chicago Tribune bloggers discusses an outage at his house
in this posting:
He includes a clip from South Park that I gather is recent (we're an
OTA family, so I'm several seasons behind).
Are you in the US? When I went to Buffalo's website, they say the
injunction is still in force and they can't sell to the US market.
Do you have a particular model number in mind?
On April 21, at 6:47 PM April 21, Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
I've used the same list and when I got
I'm not sure what RSTP is and don't want to research it currently,
but I can tell you about one painful scenario:
a few years ago, Thinkpads (might have been IBM, or maybe it was just
after the Lenovo change) shipped with some software that offered to
help you manage the wireless
Could you share what hardware you use for the wireless firewall/router?
I've been having more trouble with those than the radios mounted
PS - I started with Zyxel p330. The ones I bought last year are
mostly still working, but they seemed to change something for
Does this mean our 477 forms are going to be more complicated?
Will we need to figure out the correct census tract for each of our
And I looked up the tract that I live in (quickly, at http://
factfinder.census.gov/servlet/AGSGeoAddressServlet ). It seems to be
I think Paul Gipe is a respected name in wind. I was looking at his
site over the weekend, he has an older review of the Air-X, he seemed
to think it should really be rated as a 200 watt generator.
(I see the company has a newer model
Personally, as an ISP, I would stay away from this. I'm sure it
varies by state, but your client could end up in trouble:
(...Florida appeals court found that spyware installed on a
cheating husband’s computer by his wife resulted in
Someone on this list (I think) mentioned www.skywalker.com
I can't vouch for the quality since I haven't ordered, but I think it
was $75 / 1000' box. If I recall, a $500 order was shipped free, too.
If you buy some, let us know how it compares.
On February 26, at 1:48 PM February 26,
One thing I did when I was building StarOS radios was use one
mounting screw per board. Partly I was doing that because I thought
the board should be grounded to the case, but it also would have
helped if the glue failed on the plastic standoffs.
Also, I'm not sure what the bad
I was looking around for a method to keep at least my backbone
running during an extended power outage. (we have had ice storms take
out power for 4 - 7 days).
It seemed like the small generators might be a solution, the Honda/
etc name brand ones seem to be ~$600 for 1000 watts. And I found
I would just warn you away from the NetGear GS108. I only had one,
but it locked up repeatedly. (sitting in a phone closet) Comments on
NewEgg claimed that model had the bad capacitor problem (I just had 2
Dell motherboards replaced for that) - but I haven't opened up the
switch to look
Another opinion piece spreading FUD about whitespaces:
This guy claims And in rural areas, white spaces are often used for
broadband access. That isn't true, is it? I didn't think anyone
was currently using whitespaces.
One that is getting a lot of buzz currently is the Asus EEE. Look at
Newegg or Google for that.
On February 1, at 12:11 PM February 1, Ron Wallace wrote:
about 6-8 weeks ago someone mentioned a 399 dollar notebook PC.
Does anyone know who was offering that and a URL,
I just picked myself up off the floor ... pricing came back on the
HurryUp mast: $1750 list. (this is from one of the Michigan dealers)
It looks very nice, but that seems excessive.
I looked at these last year, anyone see problems with this:
I ran across this study a few weeks back:
Reading the executive summary, in their real world tests, NLOS/indoor
radios only worked about one mile. Outdoor mounted radios worked
maybe five miles. (I wasn't too impressed, in comparison
Matt, you forgot to mention one other feature on the X-4000 : FCC
I'm a relative newbie at WISP equipment, but I'm just blown away by
the price/performance of the Lucaya gear. I was just looking at the
store and the M1208 client units are on special for $99 (each, in a
Thanks for that method, too.
I've done something similar with Delorme's TopoUSA software.
But I'm coming to the conclusion that Google Earth is probably fine
for around here. It is flat enough that the trees block the signal
within a mile or so.
-John (pinning my hopes on the
Wow, thank you!
(really meant to send that message directly to you, but now the list
can see your plots, too)
It is flat here, but the trees are the problem for RF.
Do I understand the last plot correctly: that ignoring trees, a
2.4GHz signal would work for ~12 miles? Amazing.
Say Ralph, I don't suppose your offer extends to others?
I've looked at Radio Mobile a few times, but didn't want to invest
the time to figure it out. My current method involves using google
earth, drawing a line between the two points, then sliding the cursor
along it to see elevations
I use an older Mac Powerbook and just setup a new Mac Mini at home.
I've can't remember any issues on my wireless net, or special tweaks.
I would double check the basic IP settings, DNS etc. Try a few pings
(Applications folder Utilities folder Terminal type
How much effort is involved in changing it over to the RV batteries?
You need to use two of them because that is what the SU700 is setup
It seems to do OK charging these batteries that are considerably
larger than it was designed for?
Is the SU700NET the cheapest APC that
What don't you like about the Lucaya enclosures?
I have one of the 1208 versions to evaluate. I think I like it a lot.
The built-in antenna seems like it should be good enough for LOS
customers out to a mile, and with our trees few people would have LOS
beyond that anyway.
The CUWIN project has their mesh software running on Meraki:
http://www.cuwin.net/pr/2006/meraki (but this is a year old and I
haven't heard much about it since...)
CUWIN is the Champaign / Urbana Illinois community wireless group
(started at UIUC I think).
What's wrong with
Just curious if anyone has seen a coverage map that compares WiFi and
I spent a little bit of time researching WiMax, but decided I would
be unlikely to have a license and to just go with what I have that
mostly works (unlicensed). But I would like to know what WiMax means
If you follow the link thru to the main speedtest.net page, it looks
like it is free to run on your own server. (I thought I looked at it
6 weeks ago and they wanted money then...)
Oh, and ditto to George on getting more bandwidth to this. I get
about 1800kps to his, and 24000kps to
Does anybody have a web page up that lists common consumers items
that interfere with unlicensed wireless?
For instance, I mentioned a house that had something putting out a
-45 signal. I tracked that down to a wireless speaker system:
Acoustic Research AW811
It sounds as if you might be proposing this for a suburban or even
tree filled urban environment. One problem you might run into is
clear spectrum in 900MHz. I've use Trango gear out in rural areas,
where it works OK. I've only done a few scans in the city (East
I pulled some notes from a thread on the StarOS forums, you might
want to go read the whole thing if this sounds interesting:
(gleaned from Solar Power thread on StarOS forum started 6/18/2006
Should power at
This is totally in the other direction of having a full keyboard, but
you might look at the Nokia 770 and 800. The 770's are on discount
now, for about $150. Someone showed me theirs last week. It is more
geared toward Wi-Fi connections, but would connect to the net thru
They wouldn't sell me a phone until I gave them a service address.
As I understand it, if they can't determine a location from the
regular cell tower triangulation, they use that address.
Personally, I don't care all that much. I lived for thirty years
before the 911 system was available.
I did a few tests at the East Lansing Starbucks. I start the call on
WiFi and walk out the front door. By the time I'm 20' away it has
switched over to a tower. I didn't detect any noise during the
switch, but I was outside next to a 3 lane road.
Unfortunately that doesn't work at my
T-Mobile launched their [EMAIL PROTECTED] service at the end of June.
I picked up one of these cell phones a few weeks ago. The deal is for
an extra $10/month, you get unlimited calls in the US if they are
made over wifi. The wifi connection generally works with any open AP,
or if you know
I'm hoping someone here can point me to good info sources on MDU
networking. (I did a quick search and didn't find much specifically
on multiple dwelling unit)
I'm a very small wireless ISP. Right now my Internet source is a DSL
on top of a city water tower. I'll need more bandwidth in a
(reply to an older posting, I'm trying to catch up)
I bought some Dell PowerConnect 2708 switches last fall. That is a
smaller 8 port gig switch, it was the cheapest one I could find that
did port mirroring. About $82 now, go onto Dell's website as small
business or the price
This book showed up in my mailbox at MSU one day. I ignored it for a
while, but looked it over last week and found some interesting info.
Probably most useful to a startup WISP, it has some sample subpoena
(s), court orders, etc. Basic info on ECPA, etc.
The full PDF is linked from this
On March 23, at 1:00 PM March 23, Rich Comroe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a reason you haven't seen these products here. I began
searching for why the last time a thread discussed the 1.9GHz UL
band surfaced on this list. I doubt you'll ever see much product
ever emerge for this
I heard back from a Ubiquiti salesperson yesterday (working Sunday!),
they expect to start shipping the XR3 cards this month.
I guess they are claiming that 802.11 is the contention protocol.
I might check out a pair, we'll see how they are priced.
Jack Patrick: thanks for all the info on 3650 status.
This type of response is why I'm on this mailing list.
That March 10, 2005 announcement is near-and-dear to me, since that
is what started me on the WISP path. I haven't closely followed the
progress on 3650, so when I saw the XR3 info
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