k off
early, by 11 PM or so and your head will start to clear and feel better.
Great Rant.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:16 PM
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Peter,
No need to respond to most of your post, as your points were fair and made
sense to me. However a couple comments.
if you have ever tried to hire sales people you know that it is
challenging
I have, and failed miserably. I recognize its not easy. However, my weakness
shouldn't effec
Tom,
Is it just me or are many of your posts written in outrage or disbelief?
You have the right to discuss how the model should work for WISPs, but I
think that you need to understand that the model needs to work 2 ways -
for the vendor and the WISP - whether VOIP or advertising.
The proble
iotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Tom DeReggi wrote:
You dont use Sun Boxes! You use Linux based P4-3Ghz Rackmount PCs, they
cost us about $700, and never had one give
ments herein are NOT directed at ADZILLA, but directed
solely at Matt's comment.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: T
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Well thats the question. Does it have to be that way. I don't see the
need to have all the traffic flow through it. I see it sitting in
parallel, and just certain type of traffic gets redirected to the
cache appliance server that adds the marketing data.
You aren't familia
Tom DeReggi wrote:
You dont use Sun Boxes! You use Linux based P4-3Ghz Rackmount PCs,
they cost us about $700, and never had one give us a bit of trouble in
5 years. Could probably do it in a set top box type unit for under $350.
While I haven't seen their software, the traditional reason to
AirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:47 AM
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Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it. 10,000 subs what
Easy to say but then you don't have to supply the Sun boxes that the
Zillacasters run on.
You dont use Sun Boxes! You use Linux based P4-3Ghz Rackmount PCs, they
cost us about $700, and never had one give us a bit of trouble in 5 years.
Could probably do it in a set top box type unit for u
Easy to say but then you don't have to supply the Sun boxes that the
Zillacasters run on.
Also, selling local advertising takes time and man-power.
How do you get enough click-throughs and other metrix on 500 subs?
Even pay the advertising salesperson?
Regards,
Peter
Tom DeReggi wrote:
For th
eless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it.
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What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this???
Jory Privett
WCCS
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From: "Eric DaVers
Less than 100 you mean?
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Jory,
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Does anyone know if there
is a program for ISPs <1 subs?
Inquiring minds want to know. :^)
Matt Larsen
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Jory Privett wrote:
As all of this is a great thing that I
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OK, I understand the concept.
It looks to me though, that most of the time we'll not have the right
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OK, I understand the concept.
It looks to me though, that most of the time
we'll not have the right to change page content. Even though it's bein
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Blair, I feel your concern is a valid
one.
This is a basic twist of the walled network e.g.,
AOL uses. As within AOL's network portal and browser they would have thei
Jory,
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Does anyone know if there
is a program for ISPs <1 subs?
Inquiring minds want to know. :^)
Matt Larsen
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Jory Privett wrote:
As all of this is a great thing that I would like to be part of, I
do not think it will
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Jory is correct. No part of web content is altered as that is
copyright infringement and illegal.
The way the system works is within the existing ecosystem of the
web
nt: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM
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"There is no free lunch."
this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken,
on
the subject of economics.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-40
f Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM
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"There is no free lunch."
this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken,
on
the subject of economics.
North East Oregon Fast
While we are on the topic of ad based revenue streams- How about Tobacco advertising? Ive never seen any push type tobacco ads on the web. Im wondering if this medium is regulated the same as television and radio? (before anybody gets upset- Im a former smoker. Tobacco is evil, b
On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM
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"There is no free lunch."
this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken,
on
the subject of economics.
North East O
nt: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue Streams
"There is no free lunch."
this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken,
on
the subject of economics.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
pers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
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"There is no free lunch."
this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words e
ternet, NO WIRES!
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From: "Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:34 PM
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How about to make it easy for all of you, I set up a con call with
Martin Stewart from Adzilla for a Q&A early next week?
There are minimums because the Zillacaster hardware isn't exactly cheap.
Plus local advertising has to be sold (and salespeople paid to close
contracts on that).
If intere
: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM
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What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this???
Jory Privett
WCCS
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From: "Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA
Personally, having a 10k tier is leaving money on the table. Having been a
former dialup ISP (97-2002), we used ad based portal(s) revenue to subsidize
our free-based users as well as our paid subscriber base. You can earn
revenues from local based advertisers' by taking some time in doing so.
students?
Chris
Intelliwave
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:44 PM
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Currently its 10K subs since it is a rev
ustin, TX
March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:10 PM
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What are
What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this???
Jory Privett
WCCS
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From: "Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM
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Yea, Brian!>-Original Message->From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 06:50 PM>To: 'WISPA General List'>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue Streams>>Sign me up. When and where???>>Eric DaVersa wro
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
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North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasin
Adzilla is no different than the other ad-servers serving up ads; it
just happens to be a local ad server.
It replaces ads on a page. So instead of CNN's page having a Ford ad,
it can have NE Oregon Ford's #1 dealer ad in place (and with permission).
It also acts as an anti-phishing device. (I
: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
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North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofa
;Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
> the package. You have a GUI int
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:52 AM
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I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to
some prospective I
I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to
some prospective ISPs.
(http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm)
Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement.
(Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is
definitely worth
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