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>
> Jim
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
m: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
> frequencies?
>
> Exactly... and this conversation jus
14, 2014 8:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
I guess the point I was trying to make was that every one of those
airgrids have been illegal to operate in 5.4 since day one. If you're
unfortunate enough to get the
t;> 5265-5320
>>> 5500-5580
>>> 5660-5700
>>> 5735-5840
>>>
>>> Are these not USA channels?
>>> If am wrong let me know and I will change them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller &
large Metro areas!
> You guys out in the sticks with your grain elevators and 20 mile
> unobstructed views have it so easy. Lol
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: F
2014 6:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Exactly... and this conversation just took a hair pin into exactly WHY we're
being "muscled out" of the frequencies.
Guys -- if you're going to run, play by the rul
On 02/14/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
LOUD NOISES
I don't know what we're yelling about!
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From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:06:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 526
ay, February 14, 2014 5:01:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
We're talking about DFS certification requirements for CPEs. They exist :P
Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
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On 02/14
lutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"
> *To: *"WISPA General List"
> *Sent: *Friday, February 14, 2014 5:03:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
>>
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ----------------
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds"
>> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
&g
ttp://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds"
>> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 14, 2014 3:58:13 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled ou
ist Account)"
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the
5265 - 5700 frequencies?
ay, February 14, 2014 3:58:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has to be able to respond to channel
change requests from the AP, etc.
Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
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my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
*From: *"Matt Hoppes"
*To: *"WISPA General List"
*Cc: *"WISPA General List"
*Sent: *Friday, February 14, 2014 3:31:32 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices to a DFS
e -
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "WISPA General List"
Cc: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:31:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices to a DFS
2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>>
>>>> - Reply message -
>>>> From: &qu
b 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>>
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>>>> From: &q
Yes? :-p
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Art Stephens"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:17:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 526
Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Forrest Chris
; Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -----
>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being mu
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
ur offlist email ?
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From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 52
etflux.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside
gt;>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message
d.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
>>> To: "
014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>>
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>>>> From: &qu
oices... anybody have an up-to-rev one handy?
>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> --
...@packetflux.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running out
:li...@packetflux.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limit
4 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
>> T
Reply message -
> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
> Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
>
>
> I'm going to agree with others...
>
From: Patrick Leary<mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:01 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Amen. Preach it Brother Marlon.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10
Different band.
Different designs.
Different equipment.
Same screwups..
marlon
From: Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I don't even know of amps for 5GHz?
I th
Patrick, how the heck are ya?
marlon
From: Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Amen. Preach it Brother Marlon.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:19, "M
ou'd like and we can talk this out a bit more.
509.988.0260
laters,
marlon
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
*To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of
x.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
*To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC
m: "Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:19:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I’m with Forrest here.
Back in the “back ol’ days” of everyone running amps (we had to
x.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it s
can talk this out a bit more.
509.988.0260
laters,
marlon
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running ou
On 2/10/2014 10:21 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
So what about the cell companies that use 5GHz for a quick back haul
while waiting for their license to come in?
Not the ones commenting in favor of the proposal. I suppose the old
Motorola might have understood that, but Cambium now owns the unlice
So what about the cell companies that use 5GHz for a quick back haul while
waiting for their license to come in?
On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:20, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> On 2/10/2014 9:42 AM, John Thomas wrote:
>> Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
>> They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose
On 2/10/2014 9:42 AM, John Thomas wrote:
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if
power limits were dropped.
John
But I don't think they do stuff with high-gain external antennas.
Peeking through Comments, Ericsson, btw, a
Which means more units...
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Feb 10, 2014 9:42 AM, "John Thomas" wrote:
> Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
> They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if power
> limits
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if power
limits were dropped.
John
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On February 10, 2014 6:15:22 AM Fred Goldstein wrote:
Blair Davis wrote,
> I just went and r
Blair Davis wrote,
I just went and read a bunch of the comments on the proceeding...
>
> I didn't read them all, but I didn't find one in favor of the lower
antenna gain...
>
> Has anyone else?
Motorola Solutions, makers of $6000 police walkie-talkies, explicitly
supports the lower gain l
g
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:15:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
On 2/9/2014 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
The use of compliance test is one of the reasons the FCC is clamping down on 5
ghz…
UBNT says that they got DFS2 worki
.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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*Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:
Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
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From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
than to exceed the limits.
I will also add
eneral List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
DFS always comes second due to a longer certification process. It'll
eventually come. Some manufacturers seem to get approved more quickly,
but that could be timing of announcements an
t
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 6:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
DFS always comes second due to a longer certification process. It'll eventually
come. Some manufacturers seem to get approved more quickly, but th
lto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
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*Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any informa
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS
compliant.
John
>-Original Message-
>From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS
compliant.
John
>-Original Message-
>From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of
omputing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>>
>
>From: "Matt Hoppes"
>To: "WISPA General List"
>Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 fre
uot;WISPA General List"
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
> frequencies?
>
>
> Chuck,
> Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
> discussing?
>
> Sent from
ISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
discussing?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hog
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
discussing?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
> configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
band. It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
webinar about it. Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
allowed any long
The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.
Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road? So what you just
said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on
frequencies they are not authorized to be on.
Please pack up and go hom
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Art Stephens"
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:29:09 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusabl
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