Jim
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I guess the point I
Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC
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From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree
being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
about the ability to run
] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
about the ability
Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
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Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices
mhop...@indigowireless.com
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Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices
: *Friday, February 14, 2014 3:31:32 PM
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frequencies?
Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices to a DFS equipped
sector?
On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:17, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
mailto:asteph...@ptera.com wrote:
We
: Friday, February 14, 2014 3:58:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has to be able to respond to channel
change requests from the AP, etc.
Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j
: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has to be able to respond to
channel change requests from the AP, etc.
*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
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On 02/14/2014 12
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CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has to be able to respond to
channel change requests from the AP, etc.
*Josh Reynolds*
Chief
14, 2014 5:03:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Exactly... and this conversation just took a hair pin into exactly WHY
we're being muscled out of the frequencies.
Guys -- if you're going to run, play by the rules. No unlocked radios
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Exactly
: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:01:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
We're talking about DFS certification requirements for CPEs. They exist :P
Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
On 02/14
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CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has
On 02/14/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
LOUD NOISES
I don't know what we're yelling about!
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Exactly... and this conversation just took a hair pin into exactly WHY we're
being muscled out of the frequencies.
Guys -- if you're going to run, play by the rules. No unlocked radios,
compliance
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Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:04 PM
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Exactly
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From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree
14, 2014 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
I guess the point I was trying to make was that every one of those
airgrids have been illegal to operate in 5.4 since day one. If you're
unfortunate enough to get the FCC's
:54:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Haven't we had this discussion before? In reference to m-PCI radio cards?
Didn't it break down to a 'spirit of the law' group and a 'letter of the
law' group last time? Professional installer, anyone
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From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
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Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
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Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others
:
Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you
@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you
mailto:li...@packetflux.com
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
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Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others
...what is your offlist email ?
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Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
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From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running
Patrick, how the heck are ya?
marlon
From: Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Amen. Preach it Brother Marlon.
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On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:19, Marlon
Different band.
Different designs.
Different equipment.
Same screwups..
marlon
From: Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I don't even know of amps for 5GHz?
I thought
: Patrick Learymailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Amen. Preach it Brother Marlon.
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On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:19
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On 2/9/2014 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
The use of compliance test is one of the reasons the FCC is clamping down on 5
ghz…
UBNT says that they got DFS2
Blair Davis wrote,
I just went and read a bunch of the comments on the proceeding...
I didn't read them all, but I didn't find one in favor of the lower
antenna gain...
Has anyone else?
Motorola Solutions, makers of $6000 police walkie-talkies, explicitly
supports the lower gain
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if power
limits were dropped.
John
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On February 10, 2014 6:15:22 AM Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
Blair Davis
Which means more units...
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On Feb 10, 2014 9:42 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote:
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if
On 2/10/2014 9:42 AM, John Thomas wrote:
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit mesh equipment whose range would be hurt if
power limits were dropped.
John
But I don't think they do stuff with high-gain external antennas.
Peeking through Comments, Ericsson, btw,
So what about the cell companies that use 5GHz for a quick back haul while
waiting for their license to come in?
On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:20, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
On 2/10/2014 9:42 AM, John Thomas wrote:
Interesting statement regarding Cisco.
They sell $3000 per unit
On 2/10/2014 10:21 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
So what about the cell companies that use 5GHz for a quick back haul
while waiting for their license to come in?
Not the ones commenting in favor of the proposal. I suppose the old
Motorola might have understood that, but Cambium now owns the
can talk this out a bit more.
509.988.0260
laters,
marlon
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds like
you are definitely
Schafer (509.982.2181) o...@odessaoffice.com
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:19:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I’m with Forrest here.
Back in the “back ol’ days” of everyone running amps (we had
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frequencies?
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it
sounds like you are definitely running outside the limits since you
.
509.988.0260
laters,
marlon
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I'm going to agree with others
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Chuck,
Do you
: Saturday, February 08, 2014 6:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
DFS always comes second due to a longer certification process. It'll eventually
come. Some manufacturers seem to get approved more quickly, but that could
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
DFS always comes second due to a longer certification process. It'll
eventually come. Some manufacturers seem to get approved more quickly,
but that could be timing of announcements and not the actual
certification
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
than to exceed the limits.
I will also add
Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
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Date
, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
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frequencies?
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is
specifically discussing?
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On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
these frequencies.
Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
platform.
First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
40% of our equipment deployed would render them
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From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:29:09 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out
The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.
Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road? So what you just
said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running illegally on
frequencies they are not authorized to be on.
Please pack up and go
People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
band. It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
webinar about it. Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
allowed any
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
discussing?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna
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Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
discussing?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48
*Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
frequencies?
Chuck,
Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
discussing?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
Computing Solutions
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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Chuck,
Do you
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS
compliant.
John
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From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS
compliant.
John
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From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
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