Re: [WISPA] Blocking ripe network ip space?

2006-03-08 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Eric Merkel wrote: Is there a place to get a list of currently allocated IP space by country? I am considering doing something similar but will probably not do an all out block but maybe do some connection rate limiting of IP space from those countries.

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Rick Smith
uhh, Rick, I don't think you've got it right here... There's large interest from other WISPs on adding revenue streams, whether it means VOIP, IPTV, Gaming Servers OR porn servers... As Alex didn't go into the graphic details, and just the $$$ aspects, how would this not be proper... I am

RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread chris cooper
Ditto. Chris cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!* uhh, Rick, I don't think you've got it

Re: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Rick does a great job for us all, I'm sure better minds than mine could find an alternative to discussing on the general list. If my response to closing the thread was over zealous, I apologize to Rick and the list. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone:

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Frank Muto
Personally, having a 10k tier is leaving money on the table. Having been a former dialup ISP (97-2002), we used ad based portal(s) revenue to subsidize our free-based users as well as our paid subscriber base. You can earn revenues from local based advertisers' by taking some time in doing so.

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Oh, yippee. 1 WISP can do it. 10,000 subs what? Guess we can quit talking about this. Eric DaVersa wrote: Currently its 10K subs since it is a rev share/subsidy model - dial-up, DSL, wireless. A high volume of business class subs can make this number flexible. There will be lower tier

Re: [WISPA] OT: VoIP termination

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Liotta
I assume those numbers don't require a commitment on minute volume. If so, those are seemingly strong offerings. However, I would assume this is over the internet termination, which we find unacceptable for several reasons not the least of which is QoS. Additionally, I have found many of these

[WISPA] Independent Installer Contract?

2006-03-08 Thread G.Villarini
Hey List we are going to draft a Install Subcontractor Contract and we are looking for existing ones to grab some ideas Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I am leaving WISPA too, this list has been going downhill for a while and this NAZI tactic monitoring is starting to become annoying. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Hey Kurt, Come on now, we need you liberal democrats in WISPA, to keep us left wingers in line.-Original Message-From: Kurt Fankhauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 01:46 PMTo: ''WISPA General List''Subject: RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*I am

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Also, additionally, and so forth - I don't have Alex Huppenthal's e-mail address as I delete his e-mail. Would someone send me his e-mail and or e-mail him and ask him to reconsider. We need all the smart guys on our side. Regardless of their opinions and stands. Without all these differing

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream

2006-03-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We specifically disallow such content on any hosted sites that sit on our servers. But around here, churches outnumber bars by 4 to one.. For us, it's a policy issue. We don't control your actions, but we don't help either. Marlon (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I for one would prefer that we maintain some semblance of focus on our core focus as an organization (promoting and improving the wireless industry). I could sell Amway and consider that to be an additional revenue stream for my WISP, but having me ramble on about that is the last thing

Re: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That seems reasonable Rick. I think maybe part of the problem here stems from the charter for the public list. I, personally, don't remember what the allowable discussion range is for this particular list. If it's wireless specific then we indeed have to do a much better job of keeping it

Re: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-08 Thread Mac Dearman
Well - - all of you know I have an opinion thats not always humble, but I will share it all the same. IMO - - I dont see a thing wrong with hosting such material IF thats what you want to do, but I must confess that discussing such hosting material on a WISPA list is not exactly kosher as

[WISPA] Group Focus

2006-03-08 Thread Peter R.
If there was indeed the focus of discussion - (promoting and improving the wireless industry) - then there would be far less traffic, since a majority of threads are about VoIP, revenue, FCC, the dreaded forms, and where do I get? None of that is about promoting the wireless industry (well,

[WISPA] Back bone

2006-03-08 Thread Ross Cornett
Gentlemen and Ladies, Just curious if anyone outside the major mets have a back bone of DS3 either partial or full and what they are paying for them. I have been quoted $12000 per month for mine from ATT who has to lease lines from IL Consolidated. and I don't see now that is a workable

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Blair Davis
If you consider the original post by Alex Huppenthal as being outside 'our core focus as an organization (promoting and improving the wireless industry), then the entire Adzilla thread is out of line. Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: I for one would prefer that we maintain some semblance of focus

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Peter R.
How about to make it easy for all of you, I set up a con call with Martin Stewart from Adzilla for a QA early next week? There are minimums because the Zillacaster hardware isn't exactly cheap. Plus local advertising has to be sold (and salespeople paid to close contracts on that). If

Re: [WISPA] Group Focus

2006-03-08 Thread Mac Dearman
It was my thought that the general list was for shooting the bull (to a certain degree), asking for help, asking where to find whatever and such. I have been wrong before - - though it has been years :) Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified

Re: [WISPA] Back bone

2006-03-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We have two high end ethernet connections to the net. One is 1 meg commit and 100 meg burst. We pay $350 per month per meg of AVERAGE usage. We average a meg. The other is 1 meg commit with 10 meg burst. We pay $800 per month for a port in each of two towns. Plus $200 per month based on

RE: [WISPA] Back bone

2006-03-08 Thread Joe Fiero
Ross, I am currently building out from my hub in St Louis which is fed by a OC-3. I use both regional fiber and microwave backhaul to reach my partner's markets. I am bringing 20 Megs into Litchfield for a partner who will service that town, as well as Hillsboro. Our initial capacity is 45 Megs.

Re: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Matt LaRSEN Marlon make good points - I'll try to keep quiet for a while. And Rick, you are doing a good job, thanks again. -Original Message-From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 11:26 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA]

[WISPA] Applying for Licensed Spectrum

2006-03-08 Thread Eric Muehleisen
How does one go about getting a license for deploying PTP backhaul links in the 11ghz to 18ghz band? -Eric -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] Patrick Leary contact number

2006-03-08 Thread Brian Webster
Does anyone have Patrick's contact info, I lost it again. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] polycom IP 500 phones -- headset options???

2006-03-08 Thread danlist
Can anybody suggest a good headset (wireless/Bluetooth) for the polycom IP500 Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming

[WISPA] Any Asterisk experts on the list?

2006-03-08 Thread G.Villarini
I have some trouble with an asterisk implementation, we are looking for some expert helpat a reasonable rate, Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Any Asterisk experts on the list?

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Liotta
I'm sure we can solve your problem for you, but it may be easier --and cheaper-- just to ask the question on the list. Anyway, our Asterisk support is $125/hour. -Matt G.Villarini wrote: I have some trouble with an asterisk implementation, we are looking for some expert helpat a reasonable

Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
There is no free lunch. this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have an idea. Lets close this thread. Or we could complain some more and get more memberships to disappear and more lurkers to say I'll never join that organization of a bunch of ladies complaining. Here is another idea. Lets talk about wireless. Here is another idea. Call your

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Given the odds... I know that someday I'm going to face the issue of content policy. I, too, am rather disappointed to know that wireless ISP's aren't supposed to discuss this notion among themselves. What goes on, on my network, I don't know, really. I haven't monitored enough traffic to

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread Blair Davis
Then let's dump ALL the stuff that is not directly involving wireless. I think that that would make this a very slow moving list And I had/have some insight to offer on Alex's original question... Alex, if you see this, or if someone gets it to you, feel free to contact me off list. We

Re: [WISPA] List Discussion

2006-03-08 Thread Dylan Oliver
Funny, I just got the new xchange trade mag and one of the articles is Adult Content Heats up Wireless Networks. Here's the lead:As with the Internet before it, the mobile world provides rich opportunities for personalization and entertainment distribution. And for an ever-increasing segment of

Re: [WISPA] Cable....

2006-03-08 Thread Ron Wallace
Blair, I have a spool, non flooded, STP, 5e, Beldin 7919a or 7929A, just got it. won't need for a while, cost me 349, you can have it for 300. I will be going to Michigan City tomorrow, couldswing by Allegan and drop it off. ron wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Blair Davis

Re: [WISPA] Applying for Licensed Spectrum

2006-03-08 Thread Bob Moldashel
Eric Muehleisen wrote: How does one go about getting a license for deploying PTP backhaul links in the 11ghz to 18ghz band? -Eric Eric, Call Bobby Walton at MicroNet. They do frequency coordination and the license applications for what you are looking for. Tell him I sent ya.. Bobby

[WISPA] Group Focus

2006-03-08 Thread John Scrivner
The only reason we run a public list server at all is to give us a chance to promote and improve the efforts of our organization and industry and to hopefully win more membership to give us a larger and more powerful voice in developing the policy that runs our industry. Many of the negative

RE: [WISPA] Any Asterisk experts on the list?

2006-03-08 Thread G.Villarini
Well basically, we have a Server with [EMAIL PROTECTED], 3 FXO cards for 3 POTS lines, and VOIP deskphones. We are having issues with the Asterisk not finalizing calls on the POTS lines. Call goes in, we receive call, call is finished, calling party hangs up, asterisk doesn't hang the call. It

[WISPA] Asterisk hangup issues

2006-03-08 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi Gino, I have the exact same problem. Certain kinds of calls don't hang up - usually calls from cellular carriers that don't send the right kind of termination or whatever. I haven't come up with a perfect solution for it, but we do reboot the server every night at 3am just to make sure

Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread JohnnyO
I appreciate Rick for what he does - with that being said - I do not feel there was anything wrong with Alex's post. I for one would like to hear everyone's opinion on the topic before u nipping this one Matt. Below you stated YOUR opinion. You also kinda went to extremes by bringing up