Interesting. Any idea what the retail value on the 5GHz kit is?
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Subject: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios
Just looking for
Paul,
Here is a more detailed price sheet including accessories and extended
warranties.
http://www.connectronics.com/exalt/
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Paul Hendry wrote:
Interesting. Any idea what the retail value on the 5GHz kit is?
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One of the things that is really unique is that they have a 2 year
warranty for a carrier class backhaul product. You don't have to buy the
second year, just fill out the registration card. And there is also a
written out-of-box failure policy. None of this stuff about depending
who you know
Bob,
Tell us about your experiences with these. Work as advertised?
Approximate cost per pair?
Thanks,
Scriv
Bob Moldashel wrote:
Just looking for experiences
Personally I think they rock but just looking to see if anyone else
has any pros/cons
www.exaltcom.com
100 Mb FD 2.4
Spectras ara vailable on 5.4 too , tho not the same flexibility as having a
triband radio ...
Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces
Spectras have the dual pol. Dynamic DFS thingy... wich it's the coolest tool
And they are owned by Motorola!!!
The Exal radios looks promising, the
A few things to consider
The Exalt does the whole 5 Ghz. band, including 5.3 and 5.4
It also allows you to set the center channel on any 1 Mhz. division.
It has GPS syncing so you only need to use one channel for a handful of
radios at the same site. (Try doing that with Orthogon)
It
How do they handle small packets? Can you still get full throughput? Would
be interesting to see a comparison between these and the Spectra's.
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For that price, I'll buy an orthogon..., 64 mhz channel? wow
Gino A. Villarini
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Hoping to make the conference call this afternoon.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Peter R. wrote:
You have been reading the blog notes about this Fall's exciting ISPCON
(http://radinfo.blogspot.com/), but tomorrow (Tuesday, Nov. 14) at 3 PM
Eastern you can talk to me about it. I didn't
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces
Since when have Spectras had GPS sync?
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Huh...dont they ?
Gino A. Villarini
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Scriv,
Here is the pricing I found this morning.
http://www.connectronics.com/exalt/
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
John Scrivner wrote:
Bob,
Tell us about your experiences with these. Work as advertised?
Approximate cost per pair?
Thanks,
Scriv
Bob Moldashel wrote:
Just looking for
deep sigh
Here we go again
Marlon
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Does anyone know if there is a point-to-point EIRP exception on 5.3 GHz
as there is on 5.8 GHz?
For example, on 5.8 -
5.725 – 5.850 ISM band may use greater than 6 dBi antenna with no
reduction in transmitter power (point-to-point only)
5.725 – 5.825 U-NII band may use up to a 23 dBi gain
Sorry guys, spoke too soon ... I had a beta test Spectra radio link about 2
years ago ... the engineer told be about the gps. The radios are apparently
hardware ready, but the feature has not been implemented yet in the
firmware.
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband
Nope. 30 dB eirp. Max. Total.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
Trango repeated its WISP summit at ISPCON again this year as well.
The purpose was to ask WISPs what they need in next generation products, and
disclose upcomming products.
It was also exciting to learn more about their next generation WIMax
product. The advantage of that platform, is its early
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Trango repeated its WISP summit at ISPCON again this year as well.
The purpose was to ask WISPs what they need in next generation
products, and disclose upcomming products.
It was also exciting to learn more about their next generation WIMax
product. The advantage of that
Then give full details of what you used.
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
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Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
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Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote:
Yep. We just did. Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards.
Dennis Burgess, MCP,
I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that
will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can
start a POP with, recover some costs, then upgrade when the time comes
and you get close to the 25 subscriber attachments. Brad
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Brian,
Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as
well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing
that will be supported is simple bridging and routing when you use seperate
vendor's CPE and Base stations. btw, no one is currently
And this will come with the same 74% of MSRP as the CPE radios
correct :) What about the cost to then upgrade it to a full blown base
station? Since this is the stand alone is that cost without antenna?
Details, details we all want details. Thanks!
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From:
Actually, the main intent of the AU-S is to permit profitable VL
deployment even in the smallest of towns where the expectations are
that'd you not be able to sign more than a handful of subscribers per
AU.
For sure, some WISPs will choose to use the AU-S as a method of
incrementalizing their
How long does it take for the information on this promotion to be sent? I
filled out the information, but haven't seen anything from Alvarion yet.
Brad
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So you are saying we won't have a bunch of products to choose from that
work together like with WiFi?
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Brian,
Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as
well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing
that will be
I sent you a mail today Brad. You were in the bcc along with many others
who inquired. Did you get it? Time sent was 12:55PM Pacific time.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Now we just need to get Moto to do that! Canopy Lite Advantage AP :-)
Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.
Brad Larson wrote:
I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that
will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can
start a POP with, recover
No not the case. The fact that a peice of equipment can instantly be flashed
with a Compliant firmware, enables a WISP not to be held hostage by the
specific Manufacturer, and can change anyday to the compliant WiMax
standard, if they find it to be more advantageous to them. In other words
Standard base station discounts will apply from our VAR's. You'll need
to add an antenna and the upgrade will retail for $3,300. Brad
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Jon, you need to be creative, in light of such need, we bought a bunch of
classic aps on ebay really cheap and the upgraded them to advantage with the
trade program.. ended up paying about $1000 for the APs
Gino A. Villarini
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YEP. That was a key point not mentioned in the Commnet brief.
The lower cost APs, will allow a WISP to expand their network footprint
quicker, without waiting on a long sector ROI first.
The idea is not to shaft Alvarion out of their end game revenue that they
deserve, as a WISPs that uses
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Brian,
Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as
well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing
that will be supported is simple bridging and routing when you use seperate
vendor's CPE and Base stations. btw, no
Hello Patrick,
Nope didn't make it, but I did just get it again from you now.
Thanks,
Brad
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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is
Well, CTI has similar programs for Motorola product that they call ZERO
financing, allowing lower volume pricing, by splitting ship dates for
committed volume.
But the excitement of the Alvarion program, is not just the price, but that
it includes ALVARION GEAR!
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL
I also sent you a direct mail, forwarding the 12:55 mail.
Patrick
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
I sent you a mail
BTW, we should note that on the AU-S, the capacity is not constrained
since it supports the full 32+mbps net from the start. It is only
limited in terms of attachments, supporting up to 25 connections of the
3 or 6Mbps CPEs. We've got lots of rural customers for whom this is what
was requested.
Gino and Jon, Your loyalties to Canopy are well regarded. I have seen
the technical numbers from some of your peers doing direct head to head
comparisons. With this new program we've now taken the extra step and we
invite you to seriously take a look at our offerings! Brad
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And we're also offering the VoIP feature set of version 4.0 that pushes
40,000 small packets per second thru the base station. 10X's the
performance of many of the current products out there today including
our older versions of 3X firmware. Brad
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Personally I couldn't be happier. They work as expected and stated. They
have relatively straight forward GUI interfaces, you can move the center of
the channel to any 1 Mhz. division, it works on 5.3, you can get a straight
indoor only unit or an outdoor unit with integral antenna or N
5.4 is not type accepted in the US.
Gino A. Villarini writes:
Spectras ara vailable on 5.4 too , tho not the same flexibility as having a
triband radio ...
Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces
Spectras have the dual pol. Dynamic DFS thingy... wich it's the coolest tool
Err.. 5.4 experimental licensing ..., I would love to try some exalt radios,
Im only concern is on the channel size for big bandwidth.. 64 mhz is way too
much, on the side note the spectras 30 mhz dual polarity channel is very
flexible cause you can set one end to tx on one slice of spectrum,
Yeah we ended up doing the AP300 program a couple times...our biggest
time 22AP's arrived in a box! :-)
Well I should have complained about something else then...maybe we need
a Prizm 2.0 Lite then! j/k
Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Jon, you need to be creative, in
The advertised throughput on a 200 Mhz radio is 100 Mb true throughput in
each direction port to port. The radio throughput is based on a 64 Mhz
channel.
OK so lets compare to Trango Atlas or Alvarion Backhaul (which has similar
metrics) with equivellent speed models. Taking that maybe only
Never heard of them before until now...just talked to a sales rep and
got unnoficially ~$12k. It looks like software defined radio so they
probably have the capability to develop firmware to do a lot of the
things that Orthogon did. He said they don't currently have a spectrum
management
Hey Brad, I've already looked at it briefly and will definately look
into it a little further, pretty cool. However, based on deploying many
different systems from wifi to CDMA, I've come to one conclusion. If it
doesn't have GPS sync, I don't even want to touch it! :-) Tell me
this, will
Tom,
You're gonna bond 2 atlas links and get close to 100 Mb full
duplex? How is that??
The 200 Mb Exalt is 100 Mb TX /100 Mb RX
If you use your equation you really need 4 Trango radios which is 5 x
$3000 = $15000 and that will give you 100 mb with 50/50 MIR. Not to say
what you
Not only that, but the Atlas isn't capable of 45Mbps in any form much less
FDX. Most we've ever seen out of an Atlas is maybe 20Mbps HDX with very
clean air. Add a little noise to the equation and that puppy will auto-rate
itself down to the 10Mbps neighborhood in a heartbeat.
Believe me these
We have seen quite a bit of interest in new membership in WISPA lately.
I am proud to announce that Travis Johnson has added his name to the
list of WISP operators who have joined WISPA. Travis has a very
successful operation and I am sure his involvement in WISPA will be
valuable to us and to
I believe I remember some discussion on this list on connecting an external
battery to an APC UPS. I'm in the middle of doing it right now and am
having problems. The UPS just beep continuously with the 'bad battery'
light on. I'm using a Lifeline deep cycle battery. Any ideas?
Mark Nash
Mark, Check this thread out at dslreports.com. There are some Pic as well.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14779653~days=~start=20
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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Brad,
I'm aware of your Atlas experience. We've gotten Full 45mbps out of an Atlas
numerous times.
However, I admit, often that does require antenna size upgrade, and that
needs to be factored into the end cost for comparison.
Add a little noise to the equation and that puppy will auto-rate
Yeah - plug it in and turn it on before you try to run off of batteries :)
JohnnyO
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Subject: [WISPA] External battery on UPS
I believe I
Being five days late on this you have probably already solved it, but
just in case
The CB3 will request a DHCP address with it's MAC address (assuming it
is set to DHCP). When the PC or router behind the CB3 requests a DHCP
lease you will see the MAC for that device. The DHCP REQUEST
APC SUNET700. 1 battery.
Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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