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On Nov 20, 2013 1:36 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
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For the moment, if you're doing enterprise managed services (the highest
profit end of the ISP business, though a stretch for most WISPs), MPLS
is the only game in town. You do it on a router that has it, or on a
switch that has it. Enterprises use their own IP space (usually 10.x)
and
On 1/15/2013 2:39 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
For the moment, if you're doing enterprise managed services (the highest
profit end of the ISP business, though a stretch for most WISPs), MPLS
is the only game in town. You do it on a router that has it, or on a
switch that has it. Enterprises
I don't know who is feature complete, or even what constitutes feature
complete these days, given how MPLS is sort of a family of moving
targets. I've looked around and seen a few different Linux projects, in
various states of partial completion, some seeming to have happy users
but no
FWIW OpenBSD has L3 MPLS working with a LDP implementation and BGP. No VPLS
yet but I think I saw something about starting to work on pseudowires last
year.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:
I don't know who is feature complete, or even what
On 1/15/2013 8:29 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
FWIW OpenBSD has L3 MPLS working with a LDP implementation and BGP. No
VPLS yet but I think I saw something about starting to work on
pseudowires last year.
Good catch. You can see MPLS features improving release by release
through the OpenBSD history.
On 1/15/2013 8:29 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
FWIW OpenBSD has L3 MPLS working with a LDP implementation and BGP. No
VPLS yet but I think I saw something about starting to work on
pseudowires last year.
Good catch. You can see MPLS features improving release by release
through the OpenBSD history.
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers. We had over a
dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other after 4
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port
Router
A bulge is better.
Tom
Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
wrote:
"If
youre
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 18:21 -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote:
Which is debian under the hood. Haven't used vyatta though so I don't
know if there is a vyatta abstraction for tc or not, which is why I
asked the question of the interface for bandwidth limiting.
I haven't looked into the qos in my
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3
3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all.
The
, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software
wise. Where does this device fit?
Their ad suggests it is to replace
, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
As well as samsung recently.
Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection TV's
as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit
Of Steve Nedolast
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
As well as samsung recently.
Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection TV's
, 2013 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers. We had over
a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other
after 4 years. As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had
an epiphany
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software
wise. Where does this device fit?
Their ad
Solutions
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable than
Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software wise. Where
does this device fit?
Their ad suggests
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I have no reason to buy them at all
are the bad
ones and the brown ones are good.
Best,
Brad
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Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
All I can
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
All I can say is that we have been running MK sinsce 2.x, some quirks
along the way. But we are happy with it, No way we could have grown
our company to this level on Cisco or Juniper since we rely heavy on
VPLS and Mikrotik has allowed us to use
are good.
Best,
Brad
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*On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
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All I can say is that we have been running MK
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:18PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
I've been using both MT and UBNT for many many years and I plan to
use them both for many years. MT support has been almost completely
absent, while UBNT typically answers fairly quickly. That said,
usually when I notice a problem
supp...@mikrotik.com? Yes. You usually get a reply there. Asking you to supply
your serial number. As if I'd ask for support for a product I don't own.
On Jan 9, 2013, at 17:15, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:18PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
I've
Because a bunch of people run cracked copies...
Josh Luthman
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On Jan 9, 2013 6:03 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
supp...@mikrotik.com? Yes. You usually get a reply there. Asking you to
supply
Oh. It's that license thing again. Another reason I don't like MikroTik. With
Uniquiti there are no license levels. You get what you purchased.
On Jan 9, 2013, at 18:11, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Because a bunch of people run cracked copies...
Josh Luthman
Office:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:03:17PM -0500, Matt Hoppes wrote:
supp...@mikrotik.com? Yes. You usually get a reply there. Asking you
to supply your serial number. As if I'd ask for support for a product
I don't own.
*You* probably would not.
How many tech support calls do you get from
You have AirOS or that router software on your own x86 hardware?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 9, 2013 6:30 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
Oh. It's that license thing again. Another reason I don't like
No. Nor do I have Cisco iOS running on my own hardware.
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On Jan 9, 2013, at 18:35, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
You have AirOS or that router software on your own x86 hardware?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St Suite
OK but you're complaining MT requires you prove you own the software while
Ubnt doesn't. That's because MT can be stolen and Ubnt can not.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
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On Jan 9, 2013 6:45 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
Fair enough.
On Jan 9, 2013, at 19:10, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
OK but you're complaining MT requires you prove you own the software while
Ubnt doesn't. That's because MT can be stolen and Ubnt can not.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
I've contacted MT support once. It was a week ago. I had an old 532
running 3.x and it wouldn't upgrade. I went to the website, filled out
the form, attached the sup file and sent it. I got a reply five minutes
later with a new key. I upgraded. Life is good. :)
Brian
On 1/9/2013 5:15
Oh. That's the other thing. No matter what you want to ask. They want a sup
file.
If I want to ask a question on assigning a vlan to a port. They want a sup
file.
Creating a user. Sup file.
It's ridiculous. It's like they intentionally make support into a circus so
people won't bother
You've proved you're a Ubiquiti fanboy and you're not happy with anything
else. Just buy Ubiquiti stuff and let's end this thread going no where and
not accomplishing anything.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at
So anyone can copy it and those that paid for it provide the funding for
those that don't.
Not saying that MTs licensing it perfect, but requiring a license is a
very common thing. Think Microsoft, Cisco, etc.
On 1/9/2013 6:30 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Oh. It's that license thing again. Another
Yeah, their automated response that says someone will look at your
problem suggests you send a .sup file. However, when I have put a very
detailed explanation of what I need help with, I have not had any
problem getting an immediate, correct response from them.
On 1/9/2013 7:45 PM, Brian
Of course. I run ROS on my own x86 all over the place.
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On 1/9/2013 6:35 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
You have AirOS or that router software on your own x86
hardware?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
I've always gotten good support from MT.
A forum is not support.
Any major problem I have contacted them with has been fixed in less
than a day.
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On 1/9/2013 8:10 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
Yeah, their automated
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Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Anyone have any experience with this router?
NGL
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NGL
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NGL
If you
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when it was announced.
Mine hasn't arrived yet :-(
On Jan 8, 2013 12:57 PM, Steve Barnes
Why? Do you have one in service?
NGL
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I wouldn't touch one
...@cybernet1.com
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
Streakwave
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Anyone have any experience with this router?
NGL
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From: Christian Palecek christ...@cybernet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
Sent
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From: Christian Palecek christ...@cybernet1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Jon Auer j
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I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back
4:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless smartphone
Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when it was
announced.
Mine hasn't arrived yet
On the other hand - if you really need MPLS shouldn't you be running a
Cisco or a Juniper?
Why?
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On the other hand - if
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Anyone have any experience with this router?
NGL
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On 1/8/2013 6:23 PM, Andrew Jones wrote:
I'm not so sure that MPLS support is being worked on. There is
certainly no commitment to it from Ubiquiti's forum reps and based on
the fact that there is no actively-maintained, feature-complete,
freely-available MPLS implementation for Linux, I'm not
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/
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Anyone have
What about VLANing that traffic? As fat as the ER. If enough people want MPLS
they will add it. You can't say the same for MikroTik with their egotistic
mentality.
Have you ever tried to convince them there is a bug?
On Jan 8, 2013, at 18:46, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
On
Keep in mind that it's Vyatta's routing implementation, not UBNT's. I'd check
on their roadmap for MPLS.
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On Jan 8, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
What about VLANing that traffic? As fat as the ER. If enough people want
MPLS they will
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Anyone have any experience with this router?
NGL
If you
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Anyone have any experience with this router?
NGL
On 1/8/2013 7:02 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
What about VLANing that traffic? As fat as the ER. If enough people want
MPLS they will add it. You can't say the same for MikroTik with their
egotistic mentality.
I totally get what you mean about MT. We've got some ROS boxes doing
good service,
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable than
Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software wise. Where
does this device fit?
Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right
:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I was going to answer you guys...but you both boasted Ubiquiti support...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:06:52 PM
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The software does not do
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Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
You are correct. No MPLS yet. But that is being worked on I'm sure. On the
other hand - if you really need MPLS
.
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I'm sure
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I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.
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Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders
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To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:46:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
On 1/8/2013 6:23 PM, Andrew Jones wrote:
I'm not so sure that MPLS support is being worked on. There is
certainly no commitment to it from
General List wireless@wispa.org
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
What about VLANing that traffic? As fat as the ER. If enough people want MPLS
they will add it. You can't say the same
.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:46:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
On 1/8/2013 6:23 PM, Andrew
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I believe the source project has no or minimal MPLS support.
Lack of MPLS is a deal killer for me, but I suspect they'll get it in there.
There are some reasons to use Router OS MPLS
1) Main reason is VPLS, either
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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I have no reason to buy
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software
wise. Where does this device fit?
Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right.
Josh Luthman
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