We are very pleased to inform everyone that
New Riders / Pearson have just published the Chinese version
of "ebXML - The New Global Standard".
The ISBN is: 7-115-10319-4
and the book is available from:
http://www.cnforyou.com/query/bookdetail.asp?viBookCode=6917
http://www.ptpress.com.cn/
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The new ACM members print magazine - Queue - contains
an excellent article on ebXML architecture and components
in the context of webservices.
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I just also found out that the article is available on-line too:
http://www.acmqueue.org/issue/arch1.cfm
The new ACM members print magazine - Queue - contains
an excellent article on ebXML architecture and components
in the context of webservices.
Good to see the right exposure - and to an excellent
knowledgable audience - the ACM membership.
Recommended.
I hope that other OASIS TC's will also be
New article now available online.
>"The e-business continuum: Web services, ebXML and EDI,"
http://www.webservices.org/index.php/article/articleview/479/1/1/ .<
Certainly a great term that describes the world we live in.
Recommended reading to better understand how
the technology path is shapi
For those of you involved in messaging technology
"under the hood" the Drummond Group has an
excellent report available:
http://www.ebusinessready.org/ebxmlms_3Q02UCCFinalReport.pdf
You can also sign-up to receive update reports from the website.
This report highlights the gulf between "saying"
Full story is at:
http://webster.disa.org/dailywire/S20030128_01.html
Testing service certifies 14 software products for ebXML messaging
E Business Standards Today, DISA
The Uniform Code Council, Inc. (UCC) and Drummond Group, Inc. (DGI),
announce 14 software products
from 11 solution providers
Interesting news item.
Strange that people should view this as a "new" business model,
when one could argue that this is the premise we've been
trying to get people to adopt for the past 5+ years thru
XML/edi - the Fusion of Five - and then ebXML.
However - this HP incarnation using SQL explicitl
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XML Global Introduces Security and Reliability for
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GoXML Messaging leverages ebXML technologies to provide advanced
reliabilit
OASIS and UN/CEFACT will cosponsor ebXML Showcase, a special two-day
event at XML Europe 2003, 5-6 May 2003 in London.
We encourage all organizations that have implemented ebXML to consider
taking part in this program. It promises to be a great opportunity for
ebXML communities to learn about pl
An interesting recent article, and shows that provide the means
and people will reach to it.
Have a good weekend.
DW.
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Distributing world wide wealth
E-commerce is bring
An insightful article that begs some bigger questions, so I'll
ask them!
http://www.webservices.org/index.php/article/articleview/826/1/7/
2003 looks like this stuff will get much worse before it gets
better.
The ray of hope is the joint liaison work between W3C/OASIS/CEFACT.
If this can grow
If you are interested in an approach that blends RosettaNet and
ebXML - then Gridnode - http://www.gridnode.com has an
interesting solution that I know is deployed in APAC for
electronics customers.
DW.
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What about the Microsoft BizTalk RosettaNet Acceler
Geoff,
You have touched on a central issue that we've been grappling with
for the past five+ years here on our group, and then into
the ebXML world too.
Right now there is no clear way in XML for parties to exactly
lay down the business rules for their information exchanges.
This makes it diffi
Gotta love vendor un-bundling of products.
Of course you may want to cost compare with
standalone XML translator tools - of which there
are many good ones. If nothing else - might
get you a better deal on that price!
Anyway - I think we're done on this thread - we prefer
to have less product sp
A new report is available detailing how ebXML is building worldwide
comprehensive support.
To provide insights of that success story, today the
OASIS UN/CEFACT Joint Marketing Team for ebXML released
their first report in this series aimed at providing executives
and implementers clear informat
Learn about this new product for BPM implementation from
one of the leaders in XML and ebXML technologies.
Both conceptual discussion and live product demonstration
will be covered.
Audience focus is executive and technical management looking
to understand emerging standards and technologies
tha
Article out today places some healthy reality around what
has been happening with web services.
My other favourite quote here is "taking a few grains of
sand and building a beach".
The win for businesses with technology is always to
figure out how to deploy it effectively in tandem with
establis
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,633382,00.asp
Wonderful stuff!
Good to see that the analysts can be analyzed. Clearly
Gartner went out on a limb here and it cracked under the
weight. Their normal staid appraisals will obviously
be emphasized in future - I'd say a 0.999 chance of that
with
Ed',
Thanks for the question. The ebXML Awareness team is indeed
working on materials to articulate the need to realize how to
use ebXML and WS to maximum advantage.
We should have these available within a couple of weeks.
In a nutshell though it comes down to maturity of delivery
mechanisms
XML Global is providing a promotional webcast tomorrow,
October 16th at 1:00pm ET (10:00am PT)
The topic is integration in the context of SAP systems.
Overview:
How are you taking advantage of XML and Web Services - these
new developments in the world of e-business? How can you
apply both to
FYI,
Please see the request below.
Also note that we will be providing speaker materials
and support too to assist in the process and
give speakers a jump start.
Look forward to participation from our members.
You should respond directly to Alexei.
Thanks, DW
Co-Chair ebXML Awareness TC - O
This recent article is identifying the problem - that the XML/edi Group
highlighted almost 6 years ago in defining next generation
EDI requirements.
Headline: XML's ticking time bomb! :-
http://news.com.com/2010-1071-961117.html?tag=fd_nc_1
They are making the right points - but arriving at
I wrote on this topic the other week so I was very gratified to
see that my vision of webservices as "Realtime EDI"
equivalents has been echoed here.
Of course what this gentleman is failing to realize is that
ebXML provides robust interchange management
already.
But then we can educate him!
Cross Industry ebXML Interoperability Flourishes:
12 Vendors Participate in ebXML Message Service Testing
Drummond Group, Inc. today announced the launch of the second ebXML
messaging interoperability test with twelve participating vendors. The
test is sponsored under the Uniform Code Council I
Huge lesson here IMHO - technology is not a salve for
poor business practices.
And eBusiness implementations must always go to
the business / people rational first - technology
second.
DW.
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Superb analysis here by Alan.
http://www.webservices.org/index.php/article/articleview/447/1/24
Definately recommended for weekend reading.
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Jean-Jacques excells here.
Hats off for superb analysis, quotes, comments and site.
My question is - when do we get to stop all
this running after cats - and get one coherent
approach?
Is this so tough?? After all we have the one
multimedia p
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Topic: Making e-business standards work with Web services.
Date: September 26, 2002
When: Sep 26, 2002 at 02:00 PM EDT (18:00 GMT)
Speaker: David R.R. Webber
Learn how to make e-business standards work with Web s
Seems like we've been overlooking something all these
years.
Could this be what Bill Gates was thinking last month when
he talked about switching between business applications?!?
This does sound really easy so long as you have Windows
installed of course, and ebXML as your underlying
application
FYI - this is now available.
http://www.certivo.net/education/courses/business/ebxml1.htm
DW.
ebXML: Architecture and Business Processes
Drake Certivo's ebXML: Architecture and Business Processes course
highlights this emerging standard that enables enterprises worldwide to
conduct business
Jerry,
Seems like standards are not so standard
(IE. you are using Netscape browser )
Apologies - but if you click this link to register,
you can then proceed:
http://www.electronicmarkets.org/modules/user/register.php
Thanks, DW.
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I'm very pleased to let everyone know that an article on Registries
has just been released by the respected Electronics Markets Journal.
It is available online as a PDF download.
Registration is required to download the article, but that is free.
http://www.electronicmarkets.org/modules/pub/vie
Gene,
A remarkably strong point! And of course the focus of ebXML.
In the past X12 and EDIFACT developed IMPDEF as a neutral means
for internally representing message standards. It was moderately
successful, but definately pointed the way in the right direction.
Now as part of the ebXML work
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the safest and most secure way of doing this is?.
<<<,
Paul,
I would have to say that ebXML MS is the right way to go here for
a robust infrastructure lo
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Several organizations have been developing XML
repositories to provide a data dictionary for their own
internal and external use. Some examples are:
<
Betty,
Since Lisa was specifically mentioning X12 - we should
note that the DRIVE registry is
Lisa,
Work on this is indeed underway. The ebXML WG that I am
chairing has a draft on assembly mechanisms that
details exactly how this can be implemented in a formal
way, and we've been doing prototyping on popular
industry XML syntax transactions.
This draft should be public in a few weeks af
Cheryl,
RELAX is NOT replacing XML. The RELAX syntax is a schema
system just like DTD and W3C Schema - but has been designed
to be much easier to do than W3C Schema.
All schema live only to describe possible XML content and
structure models - so - never fear - the XML itself rules!
Thanks,
John Cowan has created an awesome set of tutorials here.
He convincingly shows how quickly you can start
using the new RELAX compact syntax - which is
designed to allow humans to quickly key in
schemas.
Enjoy, DW.
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Very very nice.
Cheers, DW.
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David,
It's always been the priniciple that you have to create your own
activity here!
We know that fully 45% of members of the list are outside of N.America,
and as Alan noted, the Pacific Rim is a sizable percentage of that.
In the past members have posted messages such as :
meeting in Jap
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FYI,
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All,
Because many of you have requested it, we have just published a new white
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Rachel,
This is very gratifying to see someone make a sensible statement.
The W3C "line" is that all you have to do is create a bunch of Schemas
and XSLT and all will be sunshine and light.
Clearly people have spent $$$ on such "B2B" implementations and
realized this comes up way short.
The re
Peter,
Thank you for stating this thumbnail so eloquently.
EXACTLY!!! This is right on with what ebXML is moving to
achieve - using the Registry to store the central published
artifacts. Then the Core Component and Realization work provides
a common format to express semantics, and then the
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>Most vendors have defined a canonical XML representation for
transforming EDI (since there can be an infinite number of XML2
representations).
Once the data is transformed into XML1 format, user-specific
requirements for XML2 can be implemented. In othe
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The question I keep asking and that is finally being answered honestly is;
how does XML resolve differences in the meaning of "ship date?"
Peter,
The answer is 'it does not!' and never was designed to. XML is
simply markup - what you need is semanti
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schema. This leaves only the mapping. I'm still trying to understand what
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<<<
Peter,
Some would argue that once you have all this in XSLT then th
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I do in various forms and shape but, being based in Europe, I work with
EDIFACT data. In fact I wrote about that technique in "Applied XML
Solutions."
We're have other projects where we convert from in-house file (flat files
or CSV) to
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Have you tried the WSDL based xCBL 3.5 catalog structure.
Kelly,
This sounds VERY complicated.Assimulation of multiple
technology layers to get it working.
Is it? Has anyone got it working?
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Can anyone help me find information on simple machine-to-machine transport
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Thanks,
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Product Support Specialist
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Greg,
You can use simple tcp/ip POST as
Planning your next big product marketing campaign???
Why use expensive analysts?
This web site can help!
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Gosh!
We've had e- b- a- and now c- : but wait only another 23 letters to go!
How many more revolutions can the wheel make before the treads
run bare???
Sad thing is all these ideas are not new - just re-packaged and
marketed.
Everything in America seems to follow hamburgers - how many ways
ca
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Clearly on-the-wire processing of business transactions is going
to be founded in XML - and the simpler the better - is my mantra
here.
UML is useful is architecting complex solutions and managing
extended networks of interactions. That is a whole
For our members in Japan, Mr. Minoru Okochi with NEC would
like to contact people interested in or are working with implementing
OAG BODs (http://openapplications.org)
Please contact Mr. Okochi directly at his email address (CC:d here).
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Mike.
It is down to vendors providing tools
FYI,
XML.com article. Examplotron is also cool
technology for defining context within EDI
structures...more on that anon!!
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Can anyone tell me about the possibilities of putting an edifact message
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Ruud,
The ebXML Message Handling specifications allow you to do exactly that.
For more information on these see http://www.ebxml.org
Still time to signup and join us for this session.
Here is the link to access this to signup
for the Friday session at 1PM EST.
http://www.intellor.com/education/channels/?aid=22
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Intellor Inc and XML Global are pleased to offer a live
2002 event.
We are as a group always looking at ways to bring the
digital revolution to fruition and expanding the ways
we can interact together.
I'm excited about the opportunities this medium opens
up for us, and how this first step m
Those interested in participating in the follow-on
work on ebXML - here is the agenda for the upcoming
technical meetings.
This work is focsued on completing the
specifications for the second tier components
that were began in the first phase ebXML.
Looking forward to your contributions.
The we
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/01/02/taglines.html
Edd Dumbill has excelled himself with this gem. Of course
you probably need to be English to appreciate the finer
nuances of this art form - but what the heck,
ENJOY - and Happy New Year in XML everyone.
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Remy,
Excellent. I wish you much success with this in 2002. We can all learn
from
each other here.
Some thoughts my side is that some of what you need may already be
covered off by the tri-lingual work done for BSR - Alain is the contact
there.
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Folks,
We've have wandered too far from the original question here!
I think I have to ask that this thread not breakdown into a
string of 'me too' eval' CD / Website download links.
We are we
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As we wind out the year here I'd like to share some thoughts on
progress made and next steps ahead.
My primary focus this year has been ebXML.
Landmark achievements abound. The first global initiative on
eBusiness with XML, and the first to show that the internet can
deliver rapid standards d
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> That I haven't here been favored with a review of the manuscript of Alan
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> David,
1. http://www.ddj.com/topics/xml/
Scroll to Suggested Reading
2. Excerpts
http://b2b.ebizq.net/
http://www.vbxml.com/b2b/articles/ebxml/default.asp
And o
Ginny,
Happy to oblige. Of course you can all also buy the
ebXML book Alan and I wrote ; -)
http://ebxmlbooks.com
but if your budget is tight then try the PPT:
http://people.xmlglobal.com/david/ebXML
You will need to press F5 and 'run' the slides and
use the navigation buttons to jump to c
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Last week Oracle announced release 2 of Oracle 9i Application Server during
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included in the product, Oracle ran an e-business scenario based on
RosettaNet and ebXML messaging.
It's likely e
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What is the future for HL7 ?
Will it go the way of Homo Erectus?
ebXML holds sure promise but still not the answer in total.
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Give your job description - I was not sure if that wa
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You can bet that someone is lobbying heavily behind this -
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Yesterday, the U.S. Senate passed S. 1684 by unanimous consent, delaying
implementation of the HIPAA transaction and code set standards by one year.
The new compliance date for these standards is October 16, 2003. S. 1684
has a specific carve out for the privacy rule. Health care providers,
he
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I'm pleased to let everyone know that Wrox has
just released their ebXML book.
http://www.wrox.com/Books/Book_Details.asp?section=1_2&isbn=1861005903
The team that put this together is a who's who of
experts that contributed to the original ebXML
development work.
The book is focused on impleme
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-matters13.html
good article.
Although for me the odd 10% or 20% here is not so significant -
but at least the article allows you to assess based on your own
needs.
Remember V90 modems include builtin on the wire compression
using PKZIP / Huff
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How interesting...
As one of the co-chairs of ebXML Core Components, I find it curious that
this book would have been written without any contact with me. Or without
attendance at all of the ebXML Core Components meetings.
Maybe those of us who di
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Well Leo, I guess you pointed out those 3 reasons here!
It would be nice if someone from XML.org Zi
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I'll check with DISA to see if their mailserver can
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I don;t think Dan even knew this was attaching itself
to his email.
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>The discussions and documents
generated by this list helped define the requirements and important
components of a workable e-business architecture in which XML could play a
role.<
Alan,
Excellent points. And unfortunately this begs the question - and what
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If ALL addresses, for a subexample of CIQ issues, are (further) normalized,
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Making your addressing info' into a token - like a quarter - that
you can just drop into whatever machine you need to get can
Alan and I have put our best effort into producing a
solid text that can do justice to all the tremendous
amount of hardwork that has gone into ebXML todate,
and bringing that work to the decision makers that
most now determine its forward mommentum.
I must especially thank Alan for making this
For some reason OASIS choose to call this the "QIC WG".
What the heck is that? A good question! I think a large
number of people have experience with dealing with
addressing information in systems across a broad
sector of business applications.
CUSTOMER ADDRESS WG - that is much simpler to gra
The eBTWG Executives are happy to announce that the following three
Projects have been approved:
* Core Component Specification
* Business Collaboration Patterns and Monitored Commitments
Specification
* eBusiness Architecture Specification
eBTWG is now initiating the "Call for participation
Many people have been wondering about how CEFACT
is proposing to move forward on formalizing the
ebXML work.
An interim step is the ebtwg. See more info'
below.
CommerceNet has stepped forward to steward and
provide administrative support until the official
UN backed work can take over in a few
Excellent article on current state of play.
Challenge is for ebXML to be able to marry into this
world and enable the business process artifacts
side of things.
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thanks!
Art Costa<
The new
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Trading partners need not be on the same convention, standard, and version.
The point I am making is that such an analysis be done prior to any
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--- Understanding ebXML ---
This overview of ebXML (an XML-based EDI) provides an introduction to the
ebXML concept and then looks more specifically at the representation of
business processes, an important starting point for ebXML implementati
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