--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jarvis Stamply" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> From: "dkotschessa" call me all
> kinds of names, and I'll just use it to practice. >>
>
> If I think you will enjoy it, then I won't enjoy it. There has to be
that
> element of betrayal of naive trust. It just ta
From: "dkotschessa" >
If I think you will enjoy it, then I won't enjoy it. There has to be that
element of betrayal of naive trust. It just takes verbal abuse to another
dimension.
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jarvis Stamply" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> From: "dkotschessa" >
>
> For me, it is therapy.
>
ohhh, well if it really makes you feel better, you can call me all
kinds of names, and I'll just use it to practice. It's win/win!
"Monks, there are these five
From: "dkotschessa" >
For me, it is therapy.
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jarvis Stamply" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> From: "Ahmed" < I am mindful when I multi-task.
bullshit>
> I've become the worst possible thing: a hypocrite. modesty> I will choose more carefully when responding (e-mail,
speech,
> actions) according to affini
On Sunday, May 07, 2006 Eugene wrote:
>Bill, I think this is a word-game. What does it mean if something
>is 'not allowed'?
Eugene, You may be right about the word-game. I've been accused (and
perhaps guilty) of that before. The words 'allowed' and 'helpful' do mean
very different things to m
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zen practice does not have things that are allowed or disallowed.
Bill,
I think this is a word-game. What does it mean if something is 'not
allowed'?
You write: "There are things, however, that people throughout the
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zen practice does not have things that are allowed or disallowed.
Bill,
I think this is a word-game. What does it mean if something is 'not
allowed'?
You write: "There are things, however, that people throughout the
With palms together,
Good Morning All,
Multi-tasking is the great illness of the contemporary world. This disease is
a result of attempting to do more with less and not being aware of doing any
specific thing at all. It is a prescription for automated sleepwalking.
As workplaces de
From: "Ahmed" < I am mindful when I multi-task.
I've become the worst possible thing: a hypocrite. I will choose more carefully when responding (e-mail, speech,
actions) according to affinity and necessity of my views.
time for another bong-hit, Akbar.
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Sorry about my misleading writing but I wasn't bored. I diverted my
attention to studying for other classes and planning for the future because
time is swiftly evaporating. So the cause was urgency amidst a fire.
I understand what you mean by I can learn a lot simply through attentive
observation
On Saturday, May 06 Eugene Wrote:
>And the practical approach in Ahmeds longer posting (9917), where he
>describes his handling boredom in classrooms, seems very OK to me. I
>can not judge how Zen masters would agree to his approach, but I
>think that is exactly how to handle these kind of situ
On Saturday, May 06 Eugene Wrote:
>Bill, of course you are right. That's why I originally quoted 'allowed
>in Zen'. Still thanks for waking me up - but next time just call my
>name or poke me gently ;-)
Eugene, I Whisper In Your Ear:
Your words 'allowed in Zen' was to what I was referring.
Ze
Bill, of course you are right. That's why I originally quoted 'allowed
in Zen'. Still thanks for waking me up - but next time just call my
name or poke me gently ;-)
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thursday, May 04 Eugene wrote:
>
> >Why do you h
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose we could get into a big discussion on the differences
between
> complex and simple tasks, parallel-tasking, multi-tasking, serial-
tasking,
> but frankly I'm not interested in building a complete set of
definiti
On Thursday, May 04 Eugene wrote:
>Why do you hit me if nothing is disallowed? What could I do wrong if
>nothing is disallowed? AW! Stop hitting me!
I hit you because nothing is disallowed. If you think some things are
allowed and some are disallowed you are asleep.
I hit you to wake you up!
On Thursday, May 04, Ahmed wrote:
Ahmed, Thanks for your posting. As usual I disagree with just about every
sentence you wrote. I won't go through your posting line-by-line, but have
picked out a few examples:
>Multitasking is a task like eating, walking, going to school, studying or
>talking t
On Thursday, May 04 Eugene also wrote:
>Dear Bill,
>Everyone multi-tasks all the time. I think the discussion is not on
>multi-tasking or not, but on the degree of multi-tasking. This makes
>the discussion more complex than simply saying "don't!".
Change the qualifier 'all the time' to 'some o
From: "Eugene" >
You lay yourself in vulnerable position that was anathema to anything that
any Buddhist has ever written and I spread your multi-tasked cheeks and
plunged it in.
Now you are hurt. You feel violated. So sad.
I shed a tear for you. I am so sorry. I will meditate on this. Only this
Jarvis,
Your negative mailing has exactly the flavor of ego-rich know-all
arrogance I don't like.
I took a vulnerable attitude by asking a question in a rather open
way, perhaps even naive. I took that open attitude to provoke all
kinds of answers and thoughts, including those I did not think
From: "Eugene" <> Everyone multi-tasks all the time. I think the discussion
is not on
> multi-tasking or not, but on the degree of multi-tasking. This makes
> the discussion more complex than simply saying "don't!".
>
You can do whatever you want, just don't shine anyone on by calling it Zen.
Ever
Dear Bill,
Everyone multi-tasks all the time. I think the discussion is not on
multi-tasking or not, but on the degree of multi-tasking. This makes
the discussion more complex than simply saying "don't!".
When you walk, you do a lot of tasks. Muscle contraction and
distraction, coordination, p
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hit you one-hundred times!
>
> Nothing is 'disallowed', but...
Why do you hit me if nothing is disallowed? What could I do wrong if
nothing is disallowed? AW! Stop hitting me!
Eugene
> but multi-tasking does not
Hi, everyone. I'm going to try to explain my ideology of spirituality and
its application to life and how multitasking ties into it.
I will arbitrarily cut one life into two parts: the inner life (inactive)
and the outer life (active).
The inner life refers to spirituality and Zen cultivation and
On Wednesday, May 03 Eugene wrote:
>But if multi-tasking is 'allowed in Zen' (don't hit me for this
>phrase...), what does the text of Suzuki mean that I cited in my
>previous post?
I hit you one-hundred times!
Nothing is 'disallowed', but multi-tasking does not lend itself well to
being one w
Ahmed, you explained it so well! Thank you!~Blossom~--- In
Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I have read that book as well. So beautifully simple it puts me
into a
> trance when I read it.
>
> I think the passage you cited does not mean that one should do
just one
Hi again Eugene!
Here's something from that same book you're reading: (where it is in the
book, I can't tell you...I found it on the internet and don't have my copy
of the book on hand)
"So when you eat, just eat. Do not read a magazine, or think "I need to do
something after lunch". Stop your mi
Thanks for your replies to my post, Mike, Blossom and Ahmed. You all
seem a bit unsure if your reply make sense, but to me they certainly
do.
I hope Suzuki does NOT mean doing only one thing at a time, or like
Mike wrote: "If we're washing dishes, for instance, we should be
washing dishes --no
I have read that book as well. So beautifully simple it puts me into a
trance when I read it.
I think the passage you cited does not mean that one should do just one
thing at a time because what about multi-tasking? Is multi-tasking not a
part of one's Buddha nature?
The book "The Way of Zen" by
I am reading the book Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind, of Shunryu Suzuki -
an excellent book. It goes into depths while being understandable.
However, there is a concept in it I don't understand. I would like to
have some explanation...
It is about going fully into an activity, leaving nothing of yo
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