with this group and this opportunity.
Thanks!
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Installs on mac and windows with one click.
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Thanks for this post Jürgen. You made me think of my agenda. My
agenda is to promote Zope/Plone as a great way to create web
applications that you also want to distribute as desktop applications.
I have posted about this a long time ago but there is no reason for
anyone on this list to remember,
Looks like gmail won't append a sig to a draft email.
Anyway here is my sig.
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Zope/Plone: distribute your web applications as desktop applications.
Installs on mac and windows with one click
*This* community is dead, get over it and move on.
Yeah, you are right.
If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own, just rename
zope 2 to 'plone base'. That will cut down on the confusion.
But beware, unless you can make zope 4 more appealling to a wider
group of casual
Once upon a time there was a man walking down the street. He came upon two
neighbors in their driveways. One guy was washing his Z-Honda and the other
guy was working on his Z-MG-midget. The pedestrian said Hey, I'm thinking
of getting a car to carry groceries home from the market The Z-Honda guy
I get your point, I just don't agree with it. It is often easier to just
install plone than it is to:
1. search and discover LocalFS
2. decide if it is too old or if it can be satisfactorily patched.
3. patch it (thank you Robert)
4. test, test and test it.
5. Hope that it still works in the next
PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
2009/3/28 Tim Nash thedag...@gmail.com
I get your point, I just don't agree with it. It is often easier to just
install plone than it is to:
1. search and discover LocalFS
2. decide if it is too old or if it can be satisfactorily patched.
3. patch
your arguments reasonable and focused on the technology or the
management of that technology.
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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On 28.03.2009 14:32 Uhr, Tim Nash wrote:
Installing Plone in such a case is only
a...@theinternet.com.auwrote:
+---[ Tim Nash ]--
| No your response and Jens response are totally inappropriate. We will
never
| rebuild this community if all our posts are greeted with personal
attacks.
You're not going to rebuild any community if given a choice of two
items, they're told
Or you may be able to use CMF 'Filesystem directory view'. The easiest way
to do that is to use Plone 3.
I support the extjs javascript library two ways. In Plone I put the whole
extjs directory into a filesystem directory view. In Zope I drop extjs into
a directory served by apache.
-Tim
On
If you want simple:
1. download this product and put it into your products directory.
http://www.zope.org/Members/gtk/Boring
2. Start Zope and go to 127.0.0.1:8080/manage and add the Boring product.
Click test, there is your url.
3. Modify the 'Boring' code and repeat.
-Tim
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009
+1
Well spoken. It is painful to see all the cheers for django templates when
dtml has been around longer and is just as good, maybe better.
ZPT may also be fantastic but I haven't needed them yet. They seem to be
designed to solve web editing problems circa 2002.
-Tim
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at
/Virginia/ 8^)
Cheers!
-Allen
Tim Nash wrote:
+1
Well spoken. It is painful to see all the cheers for django templates when
dtml has been around longer and is just as good, maybe better.
ZPT may also be fantastic but I haven't needed them yet. They seem to be
designed to solve web editing
Rowan,
Can you try inheriting from dtml-document instead of simple-item? I use
dtml document as much as I can. It is a big object but you almost always
need to call a dtml object anyway. And all the methods are already battle
tested. (BTW, for me zope is almost entirely the model, and the view
You can use this to edit the zexp on the command line. It is from the
cygwin build system.
perl -pe 'BEGIN{binmode(STDIN); binmode(STDOUT);};
s/oldtext/newtext/g' copy_of_your.zexp fixed_copy_of_your.zexp
then rename fixed_copy_of_your.zexp to the original zexp name and
import it into a
here is the code:
put this at the top of your dtml
script type=text/javascript
location.href = redirected_javascript_enabled_page.dtml;
/script
and create redirected_javascript_enabled_page.dtml
On 6/16/08, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On 16. Juni 2008 11:34:37 -0700 Arne
Thanks for the link to the gmailauthplugin.
I am trying it out on plone 3 on a mac tiger laptop and I'm getting
the following error:
Exception Type URLError
Exception Value urlopen error no host given
* Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 110, in publish
* Module
http://www.zope.org/Members/anthony/tree-coding-tricks
and
http://www.zope.org/Members/cybertad/how_to/working_with_tree
Where can I find out about this 'advanced usage'?
Regards
Garry
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, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Garito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But did you pretend to make something useful or a demo is enough?
Why don't make the demo changing the ZMI GUI or something more useful? (ZMI
is old enough and needs a renew version, don't you think so?)
Thanks!
2008/4/23, Tim Nash
security.
Thanks!,
Tim
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Garito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, Tim, but I don't catch what you pretend with this demo
Can you explain more about this test?
Thanks!
2008/4/23, Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I updated the 'HowTo' to now include a TTW version
I have created a zope product that demonstrates how I would like to
use zope with extjs library. The demo does not require an installation
of extjs. It is linked to here
http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/HowToCreateJavascriptGUI
I hope that using zope along with extjs in this way makes zope much
more
the installation of extjs but it is
for demo purposes only.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have created a zope product that demonstrates how I would like to
use zope with extjs library. The demo does not require an installation
of extjs. It is linked
://wiki.zope.org/zope2/HowToCreateJavascriptGUI
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote:
I created a zexp that demonstrates the use of extjs and zope but I
don't know where to put it for anyone that might be interested. Can
the wiki.zope.org/zope2 site
widget via ajax and JSON
4. ajax submit of form data
5. client side form field validation
and my favorite:
6. webserver cache of GUI reduces load on zope making zope more scalable
-Tim
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote:
up-to-date
, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tim,
Tim Nash wrote:
It is great to see more posts about how well zope works for Web
2.0 projects. I have used extjs with zope and really like the
combination. I'd like to learn more about your jquery /plone setup
Phil,
It is great to see more posts about how well zope works for Web
2.0 projects. I have used extjs with zope and really like the
combination. I'd like to learn more about your jquery /plone setup and
how you make it work. Would it be a time consuming for you to create a
generic product that
performance.
Laurence
Tim Nash wrote:
The google summer of code is almost underway and already has a lot of
good ideas but I was wondering if any of my fellow zope users would
have any interest in the following area:
I don't have the skills but I think it would be cool if some
student ported
And if your data is large enough to warrant using hadoop you're never
going to store them in Zope.
If you cache the GUI using javascript, keep the business layer thin
and off-load the majority of the indexing, why not?
Procfs is a virtual filesystem, devfs is a virtual filesystem. smb
OK,
look for python equivalents to hadoop?
3. or should I just use java for this area of my application?
Which approach (or something else) would you take?
Anybody?
On 3/26/08, Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+---[ Tim Nash ]--
| Does localfs work with virtual
I would start with a list of requirements...
The requirements are to run distributed map/reduce on 'live' xml data
that is stored by the zope application server.
You'll be calling
out to something else to do map/reduce and return you the results.
Agreed, but what is the storage mechanism
The google summer of code is almost underway and already has a lot of
good ideas but I was wondering if any of my fellow zope users would
have any interest in the following area:
I don't have the skills but I think it would be cool if some
student ported Zope to utilize features of the google
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote:
I don't have the skills but I think it would be cool if some
student ported Zope to utilize features of the google file system or
libferris. Libferris is a virtual file system that mounts just about
Does localfs work with virtual file systems? Is there a zope mapping
product that maps zope to a distributed file system? What is the best
way to run map/reduce on xml files that are stored in the zodb?
Thanks,
Tim
On 3/26/08, Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+---[ Tim Nash
did you try;
something = context.REQUEST.form['target']
somepage = context.REQUEST['URLPATH1'] #may be URL1
some_page_template = context[somepage]
rendered_html = some_page_template(context, somevariable=something)
I'm writing from (faulty) memory here so context[somepage]
may not work. If it
Maybe you could map it to libferris instead of the file system and
then we could many types of different data storage.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9373
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Garito wrote at 2008-2-29 00:35 +0100:
I can understand
Sure, zope products. But what does it mean to be a zope site without
ZODB? There are ZPT implementations separate from ZODB.
Subversion, grep, sed, whole code changes are all possible with zope 2.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want
Here is a follow up I wrote that fell off the list. The original
poster probably thought he was posting to the zope@zope.org but I
leave his id off just in case he didn't. I am reposting it here mainly
because he makes several good points.
-Tim
I find zope's through the web editing it's worst
Marcelo,
I share your excitement about zope 3 but let me speak about zope 2
. I am also fairly new to zope and came from a java/python background.
I have built Rail's tutorial applications but came back to zope 2.
Here is my reasons.
1. Through the web editing. Brilliant. Yes it is
at
handling semi-structured data. In addition, zope 2 (and maybe 3) is
easier to administer than a relational database so it is a database
that you can distribute to power users.
Tim
On Feb 8, 2008 1:32 PM, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote at 2008-2-7 19:14 -0800:
...
Why does
From what I have read online, the things that slow zope down are
primarily the numerous security checks and the large number of objects
that need to be written to the zodb when you save a document. Is there
a way we can manage these bottlenecks? Has anyone rated the
performance of say DTML vs ZPT?
On 2/4/08, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 4, 2008 3:19 PM, Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't been able to access the zopelabs cookbook for several weeks.
It's working for me.
-Fred
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Chaos is the score upon which
I haven't been able to access the zopelabs cookbook for several weeks.
The page (www.zopelabs.com/cookbook ) just hangs. Is anyone able to
get access to the zope cookbook? If the zopelabs site is permanently
gone, are the menu's available somewhere else on the web?
Thanks,
Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking
the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,
flexible and secure.
On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:
The other important difference between ajax loaded pages
://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook
On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Tim Nash wrote:
Tom,
Thanks but I think I am almost done. I have replaced the old style
calls with id=Find id=Properties etc. by access the sequence. Then
I added css code at the top of that same file (I think
in the folder view of the zmi?
Thanks,
Tim
On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tim Nash wrote:
Jurian,
While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside
Jurian,
While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside an iframe.
iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make ajax
calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.
don't know much about zope obviously, so if I get some vehement objections
to this route, I'll pick another :)
Thanks!
-Matt
-Original Message-
From: Tim Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:03 PM
To: Tom Von Lahndorff
Cc: Matt Hollingsworth; zope
I am writing an application that uses extjs as the front end and zope
on the back and they work together really well.
I am using a webserver to server the extjs library and everything else
comes out of zope. So far I have had no trouble with relative links
or files broken up in different
Does anyone know a good resource (link) that describes integrating a
zope application into plone? I have a zope application (dtml, scripts,
external methodss, etc.) that I want to package for distribution
with plone 3.x. I also want to import the zexp under the plone folder
and have all the
Jason,
Great posts! I have written an application that uses extjs (also
works with AIR) as the javascript front end and zope 2.10 as the
backend.I chose dtml over zpt because dtml is faster than zpt. The
extjs application scales better then either a zpt or a dtml
application because the
While I agree that the zope resources look a bit stale, I think that
zope itself has never been so relevant. I am a new zope developer and
I find that zope fits well with many of the new web techniques. I
haven't bothered to learn much page templates because my site is
almost completely built out
I had to go to the zope cookbook today to get this script so I thought
I'd paste it here for you as well. It may help you. It is from this
url: http://zopelabs.com/cookbook/1037768468
hth
Tim
# to copy something from a folder
copy_info = some_folder.manage_copyObjects(('object_foo',
This is what I was looking for.
Thanks to all.
Tim
print context.Vet[category][animal].vaccinateplan()
cheers,
Chris
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I apologize for the question (the zope area of my brain must need
coffee) but I can't find the answer in the zope book or in any of the
scripts posted to the zope cookbook.
I want to use a variable in a acquisition path.
So for example, from the zope book on scripts, imagine that
vaccinateplan()
, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:17 PM
Subject: [Zope] How do I eval a variable within the acquisition path?
I apologize for the question (the zope area of my brain must need
Anyone experiencing weird behavior with IE 7? I was creating folders
into a folder that had exiting folders and the new folders wouldn't
show up (old ones did show)until I did a paste of a different folder.
Then all the folders showed up. I removed the user folder and a
catalog from that folder
Mohammed,
yes, firebug is your best friend when doing javascript development!
I am wondering if the script call in your html is calling the correct location?
I suggest serving javascript from apache. Then you can just make a
header dtml page that calls those javascript files. Any zope page
(just what is google doing with zope?).
There are lots of reasons to be getting into zope these days.
Tim
On 4/11/07, Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11. Apr 2007, at 07:19, Tim Nash wrote:
I'm using zope 2.5 (matches a book I like) and doing like so:
This is a *very* old release
Does anybody have a script available that shows how to insert objects
into the ZODB root['Application'] from a non-zope process outside the
Zope application? Everytime I try to read root['Application'] I get a
page template error.
I'm using zope 2.5 (matches a book I like) and doing like so:
I'd like to get zope developers advice. I'm interested in the
possibility of developing a system by putting together several zope
instance that talk to each other via web services. I'd like to use
zope as a RESTful server but I am novice zope user. I have only built
one product and that was over
Dieter,
Thanks again. It worked like a charm!
Tim
On 2/7/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote at 2006-2-6 11:34 -0800:
Has anyone come across a work around for the problem of importing
zexp into zope 2.8.1?
As others already pointed out: the easiest solution would
Hello Group,
Has anyone come across a work around for the problem of importing
zexp into zope 2.8.1? I want to utilize iungo which requires zexp
imports but I'd rather not ask my hosting provider for an update to
zope.
Thanks
Tim
BTW, thanks for the input on using zope as a standard application
2006 11:34:10 -0800 Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Group,
Has anyone come across a work around for the problem of importing
zexp into zope 2.8.1?
What is the problem of importing? If you don't have the permission to
files to be imported into the filesystem of your Zope
Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from my import
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: _length
This is documented in doc/FAQ.txt of the Zope distribution.
-aj
Andreas,
BTW, There is no ZCatalog objects found on my site.
Tim
On 2/6/06, Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well in the FAQ I see it says to call manage_convertIndexes of the
ZCatalog which is a lot like what it says on the iungo site
If you want to use iungo with Zope 2.8.X or Zope 2.9
Andreas.
iungo.zexp imports fine into zope 2.9 it doesn't import into
zope2.8.1. Thanks for trying to help. It looks like I'm just stuck.
Thanks,
Tim
On 2/6/06, Tim Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas,
BTW, There is no ZCatalog objects found on my site.
Tim
On 2/6/06, Tim Nash [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Nash wrote at 2006-1-31 11:48 -0800:
...
I have completed my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi.
Have you read the Zope Developper Guide?
It is something like
Does anybody have a zope 2.x application that you usually use to start
building products with? I have combed the products at zope but they
generally are built to demo a particular functionality. I am looking
for an application that ties a lot of ideas together such as:
1. something that covers
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have completed my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was
This thread has been interesting. I wish there was even more writing
about how people develop with zope. I have completed my first zope
product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
cgi. I wish that there was
Does anybody know how to monkey patch 2.8.0 so zope can process an xform? I found the xmlFix patch but a fellow zope user pointed out that 2.8.1 breaks the monkey patch because of the
zope.app.publication.HTTPPublicationRequestFactory object. Does 2.8.0 have the
HTTPPublicationRequestFactory
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