Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 3 OK, 1 Failed

2009-08-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Alec Mitchellap...@columbia.edu wrote: It may make the most sense to remove the Quoted Printable config from MailHost and just punt this decision to some future release. Currently your changes only apply to Zope trunk aka 2.13 which is in early development. The

Re: [Zope-CMF] [CMF 2.1] opaque items calls make performance issue

2009-08-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Charlie Clarkchar...@begeistert.org wrote: Is the patch for Plone or CMF? It's for Plone, I guess. The problem is solved in Plone 4.0 itself (via monkey-patching CMF). If it's for CMF then you should consider simply submitting a patch or opening a branch. But

Re: [Zope-CMF] [CMF 2.1] opaque items calls make performance issue

2009-08-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, toutpttou...@gmail.com wrote: I m currently profiling the code of Plone to find performance issue and fix them (i m sure there are a lot). Did you try to install all the experimental.* (opaquespeedup, contentcreation, catalogqueryplan) packages that have been

Re: [Zope-CMF] [CMF 2.1] opaque items calls make performance issue

2009-08-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM, toutpttou...@gmail.com wrote: I don't really understand why all these improvements are not merged inside plone3.X and CMF and are marked up as 'experimental'. The opaque items issue at hand is not a simple and clear bug fix. On the Plone level we have decided to

Re: [Zope-CMF] Zope dependency

2009-05-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On May 26, 2009, at 10:21 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The CMF eggs, even on trunk, still advertise compatibility with Zope 2.10. I believe we had agreed to target Zope 2.12 with trunk - please correct me if that's wrong. If we do want Zope

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] five.localsitemanager: 1.0 branch dependencies

2009-03-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously yuppie wrote: I'd like to change install_requires to 'zope.component 3.6dev' and make tests work with zope.component 3.5.1 and older versions. Any objections? I'd just remove the version number altogether. If this version works with a yet unreleased

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] five.localsitemanager: 1.0 branch dependencies

2009-03-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: I doubt you can satisfy the requirements for five.localsitemanager 2.0 in a Zope version older than 2.12. That's why Zope2 = 2.12.dev is specified as dependency. I thought you were fine with that. five.localsitemanager 1.x doesn't depend on eggified Zope versions, so we

Re: [Zope-CMF] IndexableObjectWrapper

2009-03-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Is there any kind of low-traffic announcement list for things like PLIPs? I'm not subscribed to any Plone list because of (for me at least) signal to noise ratio fears. There's plone-announce, but I don't think this was announced there.

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 plans?

2009-03-02 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: That would mean that CMFDefault-the-example-application will depend on z3c.form. If we are going to split off the forms we need to split off all browser views and the profiles that use these views. Something like 'cmf.app' that includes all the CMFDefault stuff Plone doesn't

[Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 plans?

2009-02-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Quoting a mail from Jens from September last year: Is there anything to hold back a CMF 2.2.0 beta at this point? I have one small todo item on my list regarding the changes to content type icons. Things I remember people working on: - Formlib based views - Add-views

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] five.localsitemanager: dependencies

2009-02-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hanno Schlichting wrote: If a package only depends on Acquisition, DateTime and zope.* packages it does no longer depend on Zope2. I'd like to encourage people to look at their real dependency and be honest about those. Especially looking at things from the perspective of: why does my package

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 4 OK, 1 Failed, 1 Unknown

2009-02-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Charlie Clark wrote: Am 03.02.2009 um 13:45 schrieb Hanno Schlichting: ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File /home/stefan/autotest/temp/python24-zope212-cmf22/Products/ CMFDefault/skin/configure.zcml, line 12.2 ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', u'http://namespaces.zope.org/browser

Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 4 OK, 1 Failed, 1 Unknown

2009-02-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
CMF Tests Summarizer wrote: Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list. Period Mon Feb 2 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Tue Feb 3 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 6 messages: 6 from CMF Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=2, errors=3) : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.5.4 :

Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] type info: content_icon vs. icon_expr property

2009-01-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. yuppie wrote: I just noticed this checkin: http://svn.zope.org/?rev=94014view=rev And I'm a bit confused. What's the plan? Maintaining redundant information? Using a different icon for the add action? Deprecating content_icon and migrating everything to icon_expr? I would be fine

Re: [Zope-CMF] portal_fiveactions

2008-10-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Oct 4, 2008, at 17:28 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Is anyone actually using the portal_fiveactions tool and the supposed bridging between Z3 menus and CMF actions it is promising? I'm wondering if it's dead wood we're carrying around since

Re: [Zope-CMF] portal_fiveactions

2008-10-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Is anyone actually using the portal_fiveactions tool and the supposed bridging between Z3 menus and CMF actions it is promising? I'm wondering if it's dead wood we're carrying around since it really has not been touched much after the initial import: I think nobody is

[Zope-CMF] Re: Problem with Registering Local Utilities on reinstall of product

2008-06-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. There's two issues here. One is with quick installer and one is with GenericSetup. This mailing list is not the right place to discuss issues with the first, please do that on the Plone developers mailing list. Nathan Van Gheem wrote: Martin Aspeli pointed out, I think the problem is

[Zope-CMF] Re: Multiple GS profiles per product

2008-05-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Maurits van Rees wrote: This is on Plone 3.0 with CMFQuickInstaller 2.0.4. I think you are on the wrong list here. QuickInstaller is a part of Plone and not CMF and should be discussed on plone-dev. I'll give some responses anyways ;) Question 1: can I influence which profile is

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF Tests: 8 OK, 1 Unknown

2008-04-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. CMF Tests Summarizer wrote: Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: CMF Tests Date: Sat Apr 26 21:58:24 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-April/008623.html I fixed the test failure, which was introduced by me removing

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] GenericSetup and CMF dependencies

2008-04-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously yuppie wrote: Until recently, the Products themselves didn't use setuptools. Revision 85287 (http://svn.zope.org/?rev=85287view=rev) changed that. It is no longer possible to run CMF without setuptools installed. For those of you who didn't

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup 1.4 release

2008-03-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: There's an egg with version 0.3 on the cheeseshop, is that an acceptable version? I simply linked in what I had here from the current CMFCore trunk, but that external is against the five.localsitemanager trunk and the package itself contains no version information

[Zope-CMF] Re: Decode for Record objects

2008-01-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Charlie Clark wrote: If I have non-ASCII data in an RDBMS that I wish to use in a CMF site or even straight ZPT's you get a UnicodeError when accessing the non-ASCII Values which you get around using the decode utility. ZPT uses Unicode internally in Zope 2.10 and newer, so you need to

[Zope-CMF] Eggified CMF - was Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Dec 29, 2007, at 18:28 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: For the small number of CMF parts I'm +1 for individual eggs. I understood both comments as positive votes and have done the dirty work of moving CMF trunk into separate parts now. I haven't moved

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: By the way, I have attempted to upload the new GS 1.3.3 to the cheese shop, but even though I have a login it told me I am not allowed to do so. This is the first time I am uploading anything, and looking through the scant documentation linked from the scheese shop pages

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Dec 29, 2007, at 14:05 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: The maintainer role can only manage releases and files, while the Owner can add new users or delete the whole package from the cheese shop. For GenericSetup Tres should probably add at least you as a second Owner. He

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: I've now added Jens as 'Owner' on GS, PAS, and PR. I added Jens and Tres as Owners to five.lsm as well. Hanno ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: By the way, since Products.CMFCore already appears ready to be published as an egg, is there anything missing before putting it into the index? Not that I know of. What's the status of moving all the other parts into separate projects / folders? FWIW there hasn't been a

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1.1 release

2007-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The CMF 2.1 branch has seen enough fixes since CMF 2.1.0 to make a meaningful bugfix release. If there are no objections I would cut CMF 2.1.1-beta tomorrow (Friday 12/28) and a final a week later. I'm out of town from tomorrow night until 1/1, that's why I would have to

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] GenericSetup: using global steps

2007-12-19 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: GenericSetup trunk has global step registries. I propose to use the new ZCML directive for registering all GenericSetup and CMF import and export steps globally. And to remove the import_steps.xml and export_steps.xml files from the profiles shipped with CMF. This also

[Zope-CMF] Re: Buildout recipe for CMF?

2007-12-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Andreas Jung wrote: is there a buildout recipe that can unpack the CMF source archive properly? The problem is basically that the top-level folder contains the products as subdirectories. So the product dirs must be moved or linked. Sidnei already mentioned my recipe, but as I never found the

[Zope-CMF] Re: eggification status?

2007-11-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: yuppie wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: A related question is: how do we want to eggify CMF? It seems to make sense to create one egg for the whole of CMF and a second egg for GenericSetup. Why not one egg for each CMF product? Can you please elaborate?

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)

2007-10-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Now that the Zope and Zope3 collectors have been migrated successfully onto Launchpad, and there seems to be a good routine in place to preserve history and ensure automatic redirects, I wanted to bring up the question again. Should we move the CMF collector to Launchpad?

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: SVN Reorganiztion - I just worked a bit today on spliting CMF 2.1.0 (GenericSetup 1.3.2) out into separately releasable egg-based distributions. For the initial pass, see: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/tags/1.3.2 Note that

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF collector on Launchpad?

2007-08-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Andreas Jung is in the process of getting the regular Zope 2 issue collector moved onto Launchpad. He said the Launchpad guys could move other collectors like the CMF collector at the same time. The question is, do we want this? My vote is -0.5, mostly because I never

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup extension profile import step mis-feature

2007-07-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, After a lot of is-this-a-bug type discussions with Rob and Wichert, I've come to feel pretty strongly about the following: When you load an extension profile for the first time in GS, it looks to see if it has any import steps (in import_steps.xml) that are

[Zope-CMF] Re: Plone needs a release this week

2007-07-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 20 Jul 2007, at 11:00, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Next step: What needs fixing for the final? There has been a surprising lack of response to this question. Since I need a CMF 2.1-final for Plone in a few weeks that could

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup extension profile import step mis-feature

2007-07-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: 'importVarious' is a brutal hack: better to focus efforts on making it disappear. The entire point of the tool is to externalize configuration as declarative data in the profile; accomodating imperative configuration is not

[Zope-CMF] Re: Plone needs a release this week

2007-07-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Next step: What needs fixing for the final? There has been a surprising lack of response to this question. Since I need a CMF 2.1-final for Plone in a few weeks that could be very positive news for me but I have a suspicion that some

[Zope-CMF] Re: fixed issues

2007-07-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Can someone close issues 489 and 473? Both of them are fixed now, but I don't have permission to mark them as closed. Done :) ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf

[Zope-CMF] Re: Possible beta/rc ?

2007-07-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 3 Jul 2007, at 10:10, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Now that the utility vs tool work seems to be settling down and we are running Plone without any monkeypatches I want to get Plone 3.0-rc1 out the door start of next week. For that to happen I am going to need a new

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: Hi Hanno! Hanno Schlichting wrote: Starting any Plone tests will give an AttributeError on self.adapters in the subscribers method of zope.component.registry. The registry is actually the one from five.lsm and is found via the zope.app.component.hooks.SiteInfo container

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I meanwhile managed to fix the issue that prevented all tests from running and now the Plone 3.0 bundles use the head revision of the CMF 2.1 branch and five.lsm trunk again. I have started to fix all the problems that have shown up now. We have some custom tools for which I needed to remove

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-24 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hanno Schlichting wrote: ToDo: - - real world testing My testing of Plone 3.0 after the merge so far results in all integration tests failing with that stupid error inside the component registry when it throws an AttributeError on 'adapters'. The error happened a few times already

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Yuppie, This proposal is now implemented on CMF and five.localsitemanager trunk. Everything *seems* to work, but maybe I'm missing something. This might be a good time to review and test the changes - any feedback is welcome. Well done - great work! :)

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Godefroid Chapelle wrote: yuppie wrote: snip AFAICS, KSS will no longer need the monkey patch if it sets the LookupClass to FiveVerifyingAdapterLookup. I tried to test your code this evening... This implied starting to fix Archetypes and Plone to work with all the changes made in

[Zope-CMF] Re: SVN: CMF/branches/2.1/C - changed the way skins are set up, using __before_publishing_traverse__ instead of __of__

2007-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, for some reason this change broken unit tests in all of the Plone packages, starting with Archetypes, ATContentTypes up to CMFPlone. It cannot find various skin methods and templates anymore. Do you have some idea what could cause this? I have seen you introduced a new

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] five.localsitemanager: proposal

2007-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, yuppie wrote: Yesterday I tried to do my homework from the CMF-mini-sprint in Potsdam. I reread the tools-as-utilities discussion and had again a closer look at the code. In Potsdam we decided to wrap persistent utilities with a complete acquisition context. But now I think this would be

[Zope-CMF] Re: SVN: CMF/branches/2.1/C - changed the way skins are set up, using __before_publishing_traverse__ instead of __of__

2007-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
yuppie wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: for some reason this change broken unit tests in all of the Plone packages, starting with Archetypes, ATContentTypes up to CMFPlone. It cannot find various skin methods and templates anymore. Do you have some idea what could cause this? I have seen

[Zope-CMF] Re: getToolByName depreciation, getUtility, and five.lsm

2007-03-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, I'll just offer one alternative solution for disussion, which could avoid reverting all the changes we made. Kapil Thangavelu wrote: We believe that these recent changes have introduced implicit magic into a standard Zope3 api to fit Zope2 acquisition. There should be an explicit separate

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] GenericSetup and five.localsitemanager: managing tool registrations

2007-03-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, yuppie wrote: The tools-as-utilities changes seem to run fine, but so far there is no easy way to manage the tool registrations in the local site manager. The site manager has no UI for inspecting or manipulating registrations, so I tried to use GenericSetup: I think this is on the

[Zope-CMF] Re: tools-as-utilities, merging, releasing, etc

2007-03-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: My checkins today addressed at least the second change set you list by making the site itself a utility and looking it up that way. The additional wrapping is gone as well. I tested the branch again against the current Plone trunk and found no branch related

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] PersistentComponents is not enough

2007-01-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Rocky Burt wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-01 at 15:40 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Since Five is feature-frozen and new stuff should be added in Python packages anyway, my suggestion is to put this thing into a five.localsitemanager package which would then be used by CMF 2.1, Plone 3,

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 7 Jan 2007, at 14:26, Martin Aspeli wrote: I didn't realise we would fully deprecate getToolByName() quite yet, though. I must admit I haven't been following your checkins, for lack of time (and since you're surely more qualified than me in this work in any case).

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Jens, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: - I'll be happy to mark those places in the code where I had to manually wrap after a straight getUtility/queryUtility call so these places stand out as a reminder to do something about it. I haven't marked those places yet, but attached you can find a patch

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Dieter Maurer wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote at 2007-1-6 22:22 +: - Registering the portal as a utility that can be obtained by getUtility(IPortalRoot) is pretty good practice; in my estimation, that should solve all the use cases for utilities where acquisition is used now and

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Let's talk about something fun instead, like that wrapping issue. I personally can't see any problem with Hanno's suggestion for a special component registry and automatically wrapping those tools that are in the little registry. I'm just

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 6 Jan 2007, at 12:57, Andreas Jung wrote: On 5 Jan 2007, at 20:51, Andreas Jung wrote: I finished my work (including some test). Any objections merging the changes back to the trunk? If the tests pass, no. At least from me ;) I merged the changes... hopefully

[Zope-CMF] Re: [CMF 2.1] FSPageTemplate Unicode

2007-01-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: My concern is just that we need a robust solution that doesn't put too much onus on the end developer. If I have to do this it's pretty horrendous: mtool = getUtility(IMembershipTool) mtool = mtool.__of__(context) # now use mtool

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-12-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Jens, all! I haven't seen any progress on the tools as local utilities story for some time now. Is there anything specific I can help with? Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 22 Nov 2006, at 12:15, Hanno Schlichting wrote: At the time I wrote this it was kind of experimental and I didn't know if I

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-11-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Jens, all. Why did you pick exactly the two weeks where I'm on vacation without an Internet connection to do this? Anyways by reading through the mailing list it seems you have figured it all out by now ;) Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I have to run off right now, but a quick look over

[Zope-CMF] Re: Tools as local utilities

2006-09-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Just out of curiosity, which dependencies does Plone 3.0 have that require Zope 2.10? Or was it some papal edict to use 2.10? It was more of an edict, to catch up with the latest versions of our underlying frameworks again. The two things we are actually relying on

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF 2.1 release schedule

2006-09-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I was under the impression there were a few show-stoppers that needed CMF 2.1 (and in some cases Five) support that weren't there yet, like the customize a skin item. Are there any items you know are missing? You seem to apply you have everything you need. The

[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] Portal status messages and i18n: a proposal

2006-02-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi yuppie. As the creator of the mentioned statusmessages product and the current Plone i18n team lead I'm most interested in a general or at least extensible solution to this. The number one reason for the whole approach of the statusmessages product was, that I wanted to use MessageID's

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: first stab at viewification

2005-10-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. These test failures are due to Five 1.1 monkey patching. See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.z3base.five/756 or http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/9501 for some more details. Basically Five monkey patches the GlobalTranslationService adding a wrapped