[Zope-dev] Test fixture failure zope.interface under Python 3.1

2010-05-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all (and especially Lennart), I need a quick sanity check. Trying to test a package of mine for Python 3 compatibility I built Python 3.1.2 and installed distribute into it. My package depends on zope.interface. I am executing... $ python3.1

Re: [Zope-dev] Test fixture failure zope.interface under Python 3.1

2010-05-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/2/10 21:30 , Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 18:37, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: The issue is a non-ASCII character in the Changelog: snip - - Added support for Python 3.1. Contributors: Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] bug tracker gardening for bugday

2010-04-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/10 09:24 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Tres, You think we have a chance to get rid of old cruft? Like 5 years old nothing happened since then bugs. I think we should add a tag too old, add a note to warn subscribers, then set a status

Re: [Zope-dev] bug tracker gardening for bugday

2010-04-22 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/22/10 11:11 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, JV On 4/22/10 09:24 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Tres, You think we have a chance to get rid of old cruft? Like 5 years old nothing happened since then bugs. I think we should add a tag too old,

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.bugchecker/trunk/src/zope/bugchecker/bugchecker.py Get clickable URLs in the output.

2010-04-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/15/10 09:58 , Tres Seaver wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: +link = ('https://bugs.launchpad.net/%s/+bug/%s' +% (self.project_name, bug_id)) You can actually link to the bug having an id only, by using

Re: [Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime

2010-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/7/10 17:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: I'm seeing frequent periods of 50+% packet loss to the machine, and can't even get top to run on it this morning. Any clues about what is causing the load? I haven't watched it because I don't know when

Re: [Zope-dev] short svn.zope.org downtime

2010-04-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/7/10 17:27 , Jim Fulton wrote: We've been having some networking issues over the last week or two that we believe to have been addressed. I'm still getting alerts from Nagios 2-3 times a day caused by high packet loss and inability to connect

Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/18/10 09:23 , Godefroid Chapelle wrote: As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired after so many years of hard work. I think there is a need for a new release manager. Is that question part of the horizon of

Re: [Zope-dev] No license distributed with sources

2010-02-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/10/10 15:53 , Lennart Regebro wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 08:19, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: Well, technically I suppose we're all violating the law by not following the ZPL requirement of keeping the licence text next to the

Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design

2010-01-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/24/10 13:08 , Baiju M wrote: Hi, I would like to know the legal formalities required to accept a logo (with special font). Also I would like to know the same for web design. Is there any guideline for Zope Foundation ? BlueBream

Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager

2010-01-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, I would like to inform you that I intent to retreat from the Zope 2 release manager position soon. I have been serving the Zope community in this position for almost seven years and now it is time to move on and hand over the

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.01.10 08:36, Martin Aspeli wrote: +1. It puts the final nail in the Zope 3 coffin and allows a reborn vampire to emerge from slumber. Ok, we all

Re: [Zope-dev] shrinking the ZTK: a proposed solution

2010-01-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey Tres, Tres Seaver wrote: You're kidding, right? [snip] My self-interest? Not really: you are appealing to my altruism, in the fact that I care about the *broader* Zope community (broader than Zope2, Grok,

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream

2010-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shane Hathaway wrote: Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: On 04.01.10 19:23, Baiju M wrote: Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. Coming from marketing I strongly suggest

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] Splitting a large ZODB file storage - any light-weight approach?

2009-12-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Hi there, we have some huge ZODB file storage (60-80 GB each) and we want to split the storage into a number of smaller storage (easier to handle for backup and packing). The storages themselves only contain a few (Zope 2)

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: We have three perspectives: * the ZTK is new, therefore the ZTK doesn't need to care about Zope 3 at all. +1 * the ZTK is a renamed, refocused Zope 3, therefore the ZTK needs to care about Zope 3. - -1 * both: the

Re: [Zope-dev] zope2book link from Zope 2.12

2009-10-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 15, 2009, at 19:02 , Baiju M wrote: Hi Jens, In Zope 2.12, we have given a link to : http://docs.zope.org/zope2book/ from the main page displayed after installation (index_html). It's redirecting to old page which we have changed few days back. Can you please change the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 documentation

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 10, 2009, at 06:22 , Baiju M wrote: Hi Jens, I was looking at Zope 2 documentation. To generate this site : http://docs.zope.org/zope2/ we use the buildout available here, is it ? svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope2docs/trunk Yes. So, can I remove the buildout

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 documentation

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:15 , Baiju M wrote: Also where I need to make change to fix docs.zope.org I will make those. That front page is not in SVN anywhere, it's just one file on the file system. jens smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 documentation

2009-10-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:15 , Baiju M wrote: Also I removed the 'sources' directory and moved all docs one level up. This will shorten the URL. But now I realized that it's going to break few URLs in these places: http://docs.zope.org/ http://zope2.zope.org/resources/documentation Should I

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Sep 21, 2009, at 18:47 , Martijn Faassen wrote: So, I'd be against any you can't contribute documentation unless it's executable rule. The value of narrative documentation is tremendous, automatically checked or not. Hopefully there are also iterative ways to get from non-executable to

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Sep 9, 2009, at 15:30 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Ah, I perhaps misunderstood. I figured the resolving of relative externals would be a problem with a Subversion 1.4.x client. There's two different issues being confused here. SVN 1.4 clients will work with SVN 1.5 repositories in general.

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Sep 9, 2009, at 15:59 , Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote: SVN 1.4 clients will work with SVN 1.5 repositories in general. However, that's not the real issue here. The issue is the new-style externals definitions that

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Sep 9, 2009, at 17:05 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: SVN 1.4 clients will work with SVN 1.5 repositories in general. However, that's not the real issue here. The issue is the new-style externals definitions that allow you to use relative paths. Those relative paths

Re: [Zope-dev] [Framework-Team] Re: MailHost Improvements

2009-08-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 15, 2009, at 19:03 , Alec Mitchell wrote: There's one additional significant change to Zope behavior here that I forgot to mention. The current implementation sets the python default email transfer and header encoding for 'utf-8'

Re: [Zope-dev] [Framework-Team] Re: MailHost Improvements

2009-08-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 14, 2009, at 06:22 , Alec Mitchell wrote: It would be very helpful to have these changes in Zope 2.12; otherwise, Plone 4.0 will be stuck with our unmaintained SecureMailHost product for yet another release in order to provide equivalent

Re: [Zope-dev] MailHost Improvements

2009-08-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 13, 2009, at 5:12, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 for the approach in general (I haven't looked at the patch in detail). Assuming all tests pass, and that you have a test exercising the ':' bug you describe, I would

[Zope-dev] FYI: svn.zope.org change for svn:// protocol service

2009-07-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, This is a heads-up that affects anyone accessing the SVN repositories using the svn:// protocol (so it does not affect anyone accessing SVN over HTTP, or svn+ssh): So far the svn service was run through xinetd. We had recurring

[Zope-dev] [action required] Zope Contributor Agreement change

2009-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
will be removed for those who have not sent in the new agreement. Thanks again for your support! Jens Vagelpohl Secretary, Zope Foundation Board of Directors [1] http://foundation.zope.org/agreements/ZopeFoundation_Committer_Agreement -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin

Re: [Zope-dev] [action required] Zope Contributor Agreement change

2009-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 19, 2009, at 19:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Are you sending receipt confirmations? I submitted an updated agreement a while ago, but never got a response, so I am unsure at the moment if it was received or if I still need to take

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Site - Locus

2009-05-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 28, 2009, at 13:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote: What do people think about: * the idea of renaming Site to Locus I think that's a terrible name. While site at least means something to people, locus doesn't carry any meaning in the specific

[Zope-dev] [action required] Zope Contributor Agreement change

2009-05-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
will try to contact any contributor who has not replied at that point between June 18 and June 26, and on June 26 checkin access will be removed for those who have not sent in the new agreement. Thanks again for your support! Jens Vagelpohl Secretary, Zope Foundation Board of Directors [1] http

Re: [Zope-dev] Mailinglist for Zope 2 bugs!?

2009-05-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 16, 2009, at 23:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Sidnei da Silva wrote: Now for another question: how do people feel about moving Zope 3 and CMF bugs to a similar setup. That is, bug mail goes to a separate mailing list instead of

Re: [Zope-dev] Mailinglist for Zope 2 bugs!?

2009-05-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 17, 2009, at 22:53 , Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Same here. There is no reason for yet another mailing list. I see it as needlessly duplicating what Launchpad already

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0 beta 1 released

2009-05-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 5, 2009, at 15:58 , Andreas Jung wrote: Hi there, I tagged and released Zope 2.12.0 beta 1 today (basically identical with the latest alpha but it includes ZODB 3.9.0 beta 1). I'm trying to install the Zope2 egg (pulles in as a

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0 beta 1 released

2009-05-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 5, 2009, at 17:23 , Andreas Jung wrote: Unfortunately I can't get SVN 1.5 get working on my Mac. SVN 1.5 from Fink works perfectly fine here. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

Re: [Zope-dev] zope 2.12.0a4 and CMFCore

2009-05-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 4, 2009, at 12:00 , Jürgen Herrmann wrote: /home/xlhost/zope/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ Products.CMFCore-2.1.2-py2.4.egg/Products/CMFCore/interfaces/ __init__.py, line 47, in ? from Interface.bridge import createZope3Bridge

Re: [Zope-dev] svn.zope.org b0rked?

2009-05-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 2, 2009, at 09:27 , Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, I tried several times to update my SVN checkouts (on different machines). After updating some svn:exernals, svn fails with something like svn: warning: Error handling externals definition for

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: set __parent__ and __name__ in Zope 2.12 OFS

2009-05-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 1, 2009, at 17:47 , Andreas Jung wrote: On 01.05.2009 17:33 Uhr, Chris Withers wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: We would have to maintain four different major release of Zope: 2.10, 2.11, 2.12 and 2.13. Why? I suspect most of this work is

Re: [Zope-dev] Adding docs.zope.org/zodb

2009-04-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 25, 2009, at 20:30 , Laurence Rowe wrote: Hi, I've added the ZODB developers guide to the zope2docs buildout (converting it to rst) and added another article and some more links to the zodb articles section, but ideally these should

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0a2 released

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 06:52 , Andreas Jung wrote: Am 23.04.2009 um 22:23 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: On Apr 23, 2009, at 20:13 , Andreas Jung wrote: Does anyone know about the procedure for uploading stuff to download.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_error_message no longer used in Zope 2.12?

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 09:49 , Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Is it really the case that no-one knows what's going on here? Maybe nobody else cares enough to do the debugging you're too lazy to do? ;) Tres, That's not exactly fair.

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_error_message no longer used in Zope 2.12?

2009-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 24, 2009, at 16:35 , Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Sorry Chris, but that's exactly the method you use every single time. You complain very loudly and expect others to come to your help and fix stuff without doing any

Re: [Zope-dev] Request to mailing list Foundation-Info rejected

2009-04-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:57 , Lacko Roman wrote: Hi, Could someone explain me what that message means ? This simply means that during a moderation queue cleanup of probably 100 (mostly spam) messages to the foundation-info list your post was

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0a2 released

2009-04-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 23, 2009, at 20:13 , Andreas Jung wrote: Does anyone know about the procedure for uploading stuff to download.zope.org? Stephan Richter is maintaining the contents of download.zope.org with a series of scripts that do a simple PyPI

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZF] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 2, 2009, at 22:53 , Tres Seaver wrote: +1 to making svn-over-http read-only checkouts work. This is now working. The repository can be reached under... http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Zope-dev] svn.zope.org fails?

2009-03-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 10, 2009, at 17:37 , Roger Ineichen wrote: svn co -r 93260 svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.table/trunk/src/zc/table zc.table fails for me with: svn: Connection closed unexpectedly (tried from different countries) I have that problem

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 16:32 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Thanks for pointing that out. If we moved it could you put a redirect in place that just pointed .../zope3docs to .../zopeframework? I think to get started on the move we could copy the

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 18:24 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Let's do this: - svn copy zope3docs to zopeframework - once you think zopeframework is ready for public viewing, let me know and I'll set up a self-updating sandbox and a redirect - after

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 17:55 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Jens, could you pick up zopeframework/trunk now for http://docs.zope.org/zopeframework? And put a redirect in place for http://docs.zope.org/zope3docs to the new location? We can then retire

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework

2009-03-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 19:08 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 17:55 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Jens, could you pick up zopeframework/trunk now for http://docs.zope.org/zopeframework? And put a redirect in place

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 08:24 , Christian Theune wrote: As Dan pointed out, some of those documents are a bit more general than Zope Framework, but, then again, they're also more general than Zope 3. So even for that its better to have them in

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/README.txt The zope-lice...@zope.org address is bouncing.

2009-02-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My suggestion would be foundation-i...@zope.org, since the ZF is the publisher of the ZPL at this point. jens On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:32 , Baiju M wrote: Can anyone please verify this change. As it is related to license, I thought just get

Re: [Zope-dev] zope2docs

2009-02-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 23, 2009, at 17:58 , Andreas Jung wrote: - the new.zope.org skins should be removed for docs.zope,org. Since all/most of the content will be auto-generated through Sphinx it should be sufficient to adjust the color scheme, putting a

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2009, at 08:55 , Andreas Jung wrote: - - are there any legal issues with the design layout in case we want to make modifications? I know that the designer of new.zope.org theme made some trouble when it came to discussion about the

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope2book/trunk/ Lot's of updates over the weekend!

2009-02-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 16, 2009, at 19:43 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2009-2-16 19:20 +0100: ... Please come off it. Either become an active contributor and participate in our dictatorship I will never participate in your dictatorship!

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs

2009-02-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 2, 2009, at 18:32 , Christian Theune wrote: Nevertheless, you're right about the ease of writing ReST in my own editor. What's even better: SVN-based documentation (or buildouts that create it) can be automated so that the site can be

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 1, 2009, at 06:54 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I just need to know what to look for to see if it's fixed. Works. Quick question: How is doenload.zope.org maintained? Shell access? And who

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 09:49 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move the URLs

Re: [Zope-dev] ** PROBLEM alert - Zope Project Services (SVN/Downloads/Mailman/...)/KGS age is WARNING **

2009-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If you could provide a little bit more context since I have no idea how download.zope.org is managed I could look at it. I need to know what the URLs are that do not work. Probably the virtualhost

Re: [Zope-dev] Outage wiki.zope.org

2009-01-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 29, 2009, at 14:42 , Christian Theune wrote: wiki.zope.org is down. The hosting centre operator just sent a mail that they have power outages and the location at which wiki.zope.org sits is affected. All services should be restored. One

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 16, 2009, at 18:25 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: The concept of giving SVN repositories any kind of quality level aspect failed in the same way. Dependencies are specified in the setup.py and egg metadata. Quality is judged by who has

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking

2008-11-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 13, 2008, at 14:42 , Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). +1 jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 4, 2008, at 09:10 , Andreas Jung wrote: In the meantime, we can acknowledge that 2.8 and 2.9 are retired (no future work except maybe important security fixes), +1 and announce that 2.10 will be retired after the 2.12 release: We

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-11-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 4, 2008, at 13:59 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: If I'm not mistaken there was something about every release being supported two years after its initial release in those discussions. But time went on, we haven't sticked to a time-based

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog caching with memcached

2008-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 27, 2008, at 13:08 , Roché Compaan wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 14:07 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: - Plone uses too many indexes, and in particular, uses multiple text indexes. Having extra indexes around just in case is a sure lose a

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog caching with memcached

2008-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 27, 2008, at 13:32 , Roché Compaan wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 13:23 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: When it comes to integrating anything in Zope itself I'd choose the latter. Sure, we're not trying to get this into Zope, we're just

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Make Zope2 smaller

2008-10-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 26, 2008, at 16:37 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: I'd like to change the egg distribution alone and introduce one setuptools extra to it. The old tarball distribution would stay the same. The standard Zope2 egg install would only include

Re: [Zope-dev] Need help - wrong hierarchy on svn.zope.org

2008-10-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 20, 2008, at 14:05 , kevin gill wrote: Hi, I need a little help. I checked two packages into svn.zope.org, but I have set up the hierarchy incorrectly. The packages are z3c.rotterdam and z3c.boston. The egg is in the base folder,

Re: [Zope-dev] Wiki down

2008-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 08:54 , Christian Theune wrote: Good morning, My Nagios just alarmed me, that the wiki is down. Anybody around who can poke it? Works fine for me. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin)

Re: [Zope-dev] Wiki down

2008-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:06 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 09:15 +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 08:54 , Christian Theune wrote: Good morning, My Nagios just alarmed me, that the wiki is down. Anybody around who

Re: [Zope-dev] Browsing ancient history in CVS

2008-08-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 26, 2008, at 17:55 , Behrens, Matt wrote: I am sort of at my wit's end trying to find out how to work this out, and I've been sort of absent from Zope-dom for the a few years, so please forgive me if I've missed an obvious statement

Re: [Zope-dev] KGS buildbot news (zope.server failure almost explained)

2008-08-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 15, 2008, at 02:35 , Christophe Combelles wrote: We should also probably consider waiting a bit more for the new site (new.zope.org) to come up, but I don't know when it will be finished. It only needs some content for zope2, grok, and some other pages. I don't see the connection

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Unknown

2008-08-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 14, 2008, at 13:59 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Unknown --- Subject: Storesonline, Plan for an ecommerce Website. From: Mister Nice Guy Date: Wed Aug 13 09:14:30 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-August/

Re: [Zope-dev] wiki downtime, zope.interface 3.0.0b1, and buildout/setuptools crash

2008-08-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:07 , Christian Theune wrote: a) the wiki is down. Can someone please fix this? Well, it wasn't down like it always was on the old server, Apache just served an empty page for it. This appears to have been a (unrelated) Apache configuration. It's fixed now. jens

Re: [Zope-dev] Buildout site

2008-07-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 17, 2008, at 14:02 , Baiju M wrote: Hi all, Few weeks back Buildout site become live, Jens Vagelpohl setup the site at http://buildout.zope.org/ But I couldn't work further on the site. If anyone want contribute to the content please add it here: svn co svn://svn.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 09:33 , Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU and I think Plone should too, because: It seems like just yesterday that PAS offered the promise of being the nice clean way forward for authentication, and even offered a path to Zope3. I've been

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jul 12, 2008, at 03:04 , Florian Friesdorf wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: The one thing I am missing is: why? Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU Huh? Zope 2 uses PAS. The Zope 3 folks have attempted to come up with a similar solution,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 20:30 , yuppie wrote: The current Zope 2 policy doesn't make sure the change history of unreleased versions is complete. But that's no essential part of that policy. And working with unreleased versions you might use subversion anyway. See, I think that's bad. The

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 09:51 , Christian Theune wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:08:54AM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: See, I think that's bad. The change log should reflect all changes, be it in a released version or from Subversion. Or be it a release branch or the trunk. Please note

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:32 , yuppie wrote: There is always *one* well defined current maintenance branch. Version numbering *does* imply a time line if you ignore old maintenance branches. It's not hard at all to get this right. I don't think that assumption holds true. Again, using the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 13:36 , yuppie wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:32 , yuppie wrote: There is always *one* well defined current maintenance branch. Version numbering *does* imply a time line if you ignore old maintenance branches. It's not hard at all to get

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 19, 2008, at 14:41 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Christian Theune wrote: [snip] My preference would be to have more important changes first. Please don't make it a judgement call: keep it time-descending order, just like the releases. Among other things, this makes

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:09 , Christian Theune wrote: - A change on a branch is recorded in the next unreleased section. (Merges of the same fix over multiple branches are not recorded in different places on the other branches.) This results in the following properties for the CHANGES.txt:

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 14:32 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:11:46PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Just for clarification, does this imaginary scenario describe what you mean? - I am fixing a problem in the 1.2-branch of my Foobar product and note the fix

Re: [Zope-dev] Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 15:07 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:48:22PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: So in essence it sounds like changes will be noted in CHANGES.txt for *all* those branches and the trunk that they're applied to, and the only difference is the version

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:00 , yuppie wrote: Why do we maintain a CHANGES.txt file? Who reads it and why? The audience I have in mind are users of released versions. They read CHANGES.txt to figure out what's new in a release. Let's take Zope 2 as an example: Most people will currently use

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:27 , yuppie wrote: That's not the only audience. I as a developer consult CHANGES.txt to (hopefully) find *all* changes on the respective branch or on the trunk that have flowed into it until now. Can't developers use the subversion history? It's much quicker to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Extend specification of how to maintain the changelog

2008-06-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:32 , Fred Drake wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:27 PM, yuppie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. I was referring to the current Zope 2 (and CMF) policy: Note that you don't need to note the fix in the CHANGES.txt on the trunk if you don't want to. At the time a new

[Zope-dev] z3c.form with Zope 2?

2008-06-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi guys, Are there any basic problems using z3c.form with Zope 2? All the tutorials and documentation I have found uses straight Zope 3. If anyone has successfully used z3c.form in a Zope 2 project I'd love to see some sample code ;-) jens

[Zope-dev] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. What services are affected? --- The most important service addresses include... - www.zope.org - svn.zope.org -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] NOTICE: zope.org server move

2008-06-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jun 11, 2008, at 06:05 , Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 01:22:18AM -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The zope.org-related servers and services maintained by Zope Corporation will be moving to a new home late Thursday night Eastern Standard Time. How long will the outage

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 28, 2008, at 02:25 , Christian Theune wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 02:31:04PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Did you try setting up a download cache and putting it there? Note that if you had a download cache named foo, you would need to put the tar ball in foo/dist. I could and

[Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi guys, Does zc.buildout and/or the default egg recipe have any way of overriding the download URL from the cheese shop if that URL is broken and I cannot reach the package maintainer? Thanks! jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 27, 2008, at 12:49 , Jim Fulton wrote: On May 27, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi guys, Does zc.buildout and/or the default egg recipe have any way of overriding the download URL from the cheese shop if that URL is broken and I cannot reach the package maintainer

Re: [Zope-dev] buildout and broken Cheeseshop download URLs

2008-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On May 27, 2008, at 13:31 , Jim Fulton wrote: Did you try setting up a download cache and putting it there? Note that if you had a download cache named foo, you would need to put the tar ball in foo/dist. Haven't tried that yet. jens ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 monitoring

2008-04-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:41 , Christian Theune wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of zc.z3monitor. I figured the medua

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.formjs/branches/pcardune-extjs/ creating a branch to see what I can do about extjs integration.

2008-04-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 18, 2008, at 14:09 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 April 2008, Wichert Akkerman wrote: There is still an ongoing debate about that even - the extjs authors basically only want to offer LGPL to you if you meet certain criteria but won't allow you to redistribute it with just

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 17, 2008, at 12:27 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Opinions, votes? +1 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Apr 14, 2008, at 19:11 , Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: *IF* you'd like to be pragmatic, I'd suggest we clean up those failing Plone tests, merge the branch and be on our way. +1 jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

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