TED_USER"] and
am storing the handles in an _v_connections Dictionary, which is explicitly
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mechanism working at least on opera.
The last is my personal favorite, because you can have different
versions concurrently open on different projects @ one server.
Proposed patch for both solutions comes as attachement.
(both intended for zope 2.4.0a1)
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es on POST requests
then it rises on this requests EVERYTIME
I have two files for you, tracing the conversation of an example
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ave a set of Folders as incremental updates to the main tree
that are a bit more "atomic".
Any hints? At most, i require more information of the process of
finding an object, to know where to threshold the alternative
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e way it is, or whether this could be
changed to behave more obvious and consistent.
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On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 20:34 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Christian Theune wrote at 2008-10-15 17:42 +0200:
> >we stumbled over an annoyance that took a while to debug:
> >
> >Writing an ITraversable, we used zope.traversing.api.traverse() in a
> >test to verify
akes us instanciated the objects and then use verifyObject. I don't
remember what it was right now. Do you?
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On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 18:02 +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Christian Theune wrote:
> > we stumbled over an annoyance that took a while to debug:
> >
> > Writing an ITraversable, we used zope.traversing.api.traverse() in a
> > test to verify our code. We reg
. Maybe
the archive of zodb-dev knows.
> This distinction is similar to why __init__ methods aren't described in
> (zope.interface) interfaces; how you construct an object isn't
> prescribed by the interface exposed by the object itself.
I'm not sure what you're sayi
ur cache will happily deliver never-committed data and
also it will not isolate transactions from each other.
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On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 14:43 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
> On 25.10.2008 14:37 Uhr, Christian Theune wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 15:41 +0200, Hedley Roos wrote:
> >> The product is a monkey patch to Catalog.py. I'd love some feedback and
> &g
nally when another transaction is already running in parallel, it
will see cache inserts from other transactions.
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27;t a good idea in general but works
reliable if your backend supports a "one phase commit" (which memcache
doesn't seem to do).
I'd also avoid putting a generally reusable "tool" package in the place
that it uses the "one phase" data manager hack. Generally
even talking about invalidation as your cache wouldn't see
'invalidations' anyways.
It's memcached's task to forget stuff: it's a cache anyway.
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be able to follow the log on what happened. I
also think this would be good practice because a startup that triggers
generations is an anormal condition compared to a regular start.
Any objections?
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> >
> > Seems that one revision did not get restored.
> > It breaks also on "show log", where other folders with older revisions
> > seem to work.
>
> I've a full svn mirror up to rev 92837 if it turns out to be needed.
Same here
like to deprecate this site, making it read-only for now, but
> eventually removing it.
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Hi,
I've fixed a bug in zope.app.generations and added more logging. Can
someone have a look on this with a second pair of eyes and give me a go
for releasing that code as 3.4.2?
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On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 12:08 +0200, Christophe Combelles wrote:
> Christian Theune a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've fixed a bug in zope.app.generations and added more logging. Can
> > someone have a look on this with a second pair of eyes and give me a go
>
with that, but I can't write my code in a way to both silences the
deprecation warning and stays future compatible (because of the argument
that will go away).
I wonder whether removing that argument is still a todo. If it is, I'd
be happy to do so now.
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equirements that the author thinks are good are documented in a
well known place and in a structured manner
b) the requirements can be applied by standard tools and for people who
choose to ignore the issue (and are not bitten by it)
c) you can still override in your case.
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other packages
> which use ITerms except the one in zope.*?
Re-import into the old place, put BBB warnings in place without the need
to have them removed immediately.
At least zc.sourcefactory does and other software out in the wild.
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On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:39 +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
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I hope he doesn't mean you. That would increase gocept's
"Christian"-ratio back to 38%.
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Hi,
I noticed 'zope.globalrequest' on the PyPI RSS feed today and wonder
about it. IMHO this implements an anti-pattern in an official way
without a warning that this needs to be handled with care.
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uest from anywhere is definitely not intended to be
turned into an *everywhere* but needs careful though.
For me, if my apps domain logic can't be used in `bin/zopectl debug` (or
run) without faking a request, they're broken.
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:24:09 -0800
Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Monday 19 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
> > Using the 'reversal of dependency' (not sure whether this is the
> > accurate English term)
>
> I think it is called "dependency injection
orrect already.
Why exactly don't you just take everything thats in the Zope3 tree
checkout and ignore those DEPENDENCY.cfg files?
Christian
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ice' and ignore those manually (like zope.interface).
After that the graph only contains the messy parts but becomes a bit
more readable.
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wiki.zope.org is down. The hosting centre operator just sent a mail
that they have power outages and the location at which wiki.zope.org
sits is affected.
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P/1.1 404 Not Found
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Darn. The moment I send the mail I realise that Stephan said he'll move
the URLs around.
I'll update my Nagios. Sorry for the noise.
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:17:11 +0100
Christian Theune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the KGS turned from not-having-been-updated to missing. At leas
e if
> it's fixed.
My Nagios looks at this URL:
http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/pypi-poll-access.lock
I'm not sure this is relevant anymore. I guess this might be a better
URL now:
http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/3.4.0/pypi-poll-access.lock
Stephan?
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B issues: I've started working on a 'touch' tool for ZODB
that analyzes (pickle-based) storages for class references which are
missing in your code base and (if all class references exist) can touch
all objects that reference classes from indirect imports.
Just a note: Martijn and I
Hi,
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:11:44 +0300
Dan Korostelev wrote:
> 2009/1/31 Christian Theune :
> > WRT the ZODB issues: I've started working on a 'touch' tool for ZODB
> > that analyzes (pickle-based) storages for class references which are
> > missing
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:55:43 -0800
Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Saturday 31 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
> > I'm not sure this is relevant anymore. I guess this might be a
> > better URL now:
> > http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/3.4.0/pypi-poll-access.lock
>
We definitely didn't add that kind of code to our new packages and to
me it doesn't look very appealing too although my alternative isn't
great either.
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such
a low timeout -- I only got annoyed when running with the longer
default.
I wonder whether it might be an idea to lower the
default in general?
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" problems.
Cheers,
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:14:39 +0300
Dan Korostelev wrote:
> 2009/1/30 Christian Theune :
> > Log message for revision 95598:
> > - savepoint.txt moved out of the tests directory, follow.
> > - Fix UI changes in tests depending on the new zope.site module.
>
> sa
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:34:39 -0800
Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Sunday 01 February 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
> > Ok, I'm pointing to the versions.cfg now. Is this file's mtime being
> > updates regularly when that cron job runs?
>
> No, is that a problem? I can
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:29:41 +0300
Dan Korostelev wrote:
> 2009/2/1 Christian Theune :
>
> > compat-zope.app.keyreference
> > doctest comparison error, probably this is still in flux as Dan is
> > working on that
>
> Is that still true? I can't get a
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:53:24 +0100
Andreas Jung wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 01.02.2009 20:54 Uhr, Christian Theune wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in the last week I noticed that reducing buildout's socket timeout
> > to some
e long term I'd also like to incorporate documentation about Zope
3 components themselve there.
I'd be happy to get feedback on this and I'll probably come up with
some questions if I can't find an answer in the existing documents.
Christian
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:16:38 -0800
Paul Carduner wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Christian Theune
> wrote:
> > My short-term goal is to produce a document that I can pass to new
> > developers with reasonable confidence that they know roughly how to
> > move in o
t perfect (it cannot report on
> instances being imported, only classes and functions) but should be
> useful in finding hints of better import locations. It doesn't depend
> on the deprecation system. Christian Theune should be able to tell
> people more about this tool.
I'll w
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:42:37 +
Chris Withers wrote:
> Christian Theune wrote:
> > It's only a command line option right now.
>
> Which one?
-t
> > Making it configurable
> > through a buildout option would be nice too.
>
> Yes, so it can live in
t; packagea/__init__.py
> packagea/amodule.py
>
> "packagea.something":
> packagea/__init__.py
> packagea/something/__init__.py
> packagea/something/bmodule.py
>
> If so, which packagea/__init__.py gets used?
It does. You're supposed to assume that neither __init__.py gets
us
er for modules and subpackages."
> > If so, which packagea/__init__.py gets used?
Only the __init__.py isn't allowed to have code is what I read from the
documentation.
> That's why it doesn't. :) That's also why zope.configuration isn't a
> namespace
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:18:19 +0100
Michael Howitz wrote:
> Am 06.02.2009 um 14:21 schrieb Christian Theune:
>> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:42:37 +
>> Chris Withers wrote:
>>
>>> Christian Theune wrote:
>>>> It's only a command line option right now
te is +1 on it)
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On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 18:18 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> We discovered this when Christian Theune said he wanted his package
> __init__.py empty as otherwise he runs into circular import issues. Some
> of the others including myself were puzzled as we put APIs in
> __ini
27;t "herd" for open issues, for example. So you still
would need someone to invoke/maintain the procedures *around* the voting
system.
For nurturing the community I think people are needed. And I think those
people should have a public mandate that they're in charge for certain
i
of an
open source project.
Having major issues resolved in RL meetings will exclude all those whose
schedules don't match and those who can't afford to travel to Far Far
Away.
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Hi,
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 08:52 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 08:42, Christian Theune wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 08:35 +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> >> 1. Areas that need somebody responsible should get one. We need
> >> somebody to b
y (due to last GSOC) is having lots of
conditional imports sprinkled all over the code base with an 'if
sys.platform == "java"'. For some reason there was no discussion about
that and we even didn't get enough stop-energy in my POV. ;)
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general than
Zope Framework, but, then again, they're also more general than Zope 3.
So even for that its better to have them in the Zope Framework area than
Zope 3.
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On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 16:53 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm happy to announce that the Zope Framework Steering Group is now
> bigger than Just Me.
>
> Stephan Richter and Christian Theune have now joined the Steering Group,
> bringing it up to 3 m
for changing this?
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ng on. But I'd like to make a release of this package.
For me this t est works but the following tests fail:
zope.site.tests.test_folder
zope.site.tests.test_localsitemanager
zope.site.tests.test_registration
zope.site.tests.test_site
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odule
> zope.app.onlinehelp
> zope.app.pluggableauth
> zope.app.preference
> zope.app.preview
> zope.app.principalannotation
> zope.app.pythonpage
> zope.app.renderer
> zope.app.rotterdam
> zope.app.securitypolicy
> zope.app.server
> zope.app.session
> zope.app.ski
uite convention?
> Personally I much prefer nose's habit of automatically picking up
> tests.
I think there is not. One of the reasons I refactored the test runner a
while ago was to make it possible to support a less-boilerplate-heavy
scheme of getting tests set up.
Christian
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eople can adopt it
> easily. I think it would be very interesting to look for ways to make
> bits of Zope work with WebOb somehow.
@Martijn:
This thread somewhat overlapped with the forming of the steering group.
Do you think this should go to the list of open issues?
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be solved in a way that didn't break the mechanize
> functionality.
Did this get resolved by any means? As it didn't spur any discussion at
all, you might want to at least file a bug tracker issue for that
problem.
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ness
of the C implementation. If we drop it then we can IMHO live without the
standalone package. If we keep two implementations then I'd move both of
them to a separate package.
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t break apps. Adding an option to enable it first and then
moving this to a default setting later is a good way to go, IMHO.
I'm not sure how to time the move, though. One option would be to
release a bugfix with the option as non-default and a feature release
with the option as default.
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:55 +0300, Malthe Borch wrote:
> 2009/3/18 Christian Theune :
> > I'm not sure how to time the move, though. One option would be to
> > release a bugfix with the option as non-default and a feature release
> > with the option as default.
&
entify packages which are
"always good". E.g. zope.interface is a declared no-brainer to add to
your dependencies. The other two that keep popping up that we *might*
wanna white-list are zope.schema and zope.component.
In addition this would need documentation as well.
Christian
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On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 13:07 -0600, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Christian Theune wrote:
> > I remember that at the sprint we used to identify packages which are
> > "always good". E.g. zope.interface is a declared no-brainer to add to
> > your dependencies. The other t
r for
> > zope.i18nmessageid.Message and adds __name__ and __parent__ attributes
> > to _available_by_default. This module was executed in
> > zope.app.security.__init__ and generally does useful things for most
> > of applications. The problem is that neither zope.i18nmes
file" or
"compatibility with cStringIO".
Nevertheless: passing in 0 seems to be the safe bet in general and I
wonder what is actually breaking. I haven't seen a traceback be attached
at either bug. Also, those bugs should probably be marked as duplicates.
Christian
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On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 13:28 +0300, Dan Korostelev wrote:
> 2009/3/13 Christian Theune :
> > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:00 +0300, Dan Korostelev wrote:
> >> Please, can someone review the current zope.site's trunk? It fails the
> >> "persistent_interfaces"
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 14:20 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> On 3/23/09 12:57 PM, Chris Withers wrote:
> > Christian Theune wrote:
> >>>>> Wichert.
> >>>> Be aware of nose issue #102:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://code.google.com/
in the sense that ManageSite
very likely only applies locally (at a site) whereas the application is
a global thing (the server that runs everything) that needs management
(like shutting down the server) independent of giving someone the right
to administer a site (or even the top-level site).
Christ
le want to get solved using
an appropriate tracking system. I can't follow every single email on
zope-dev and having to review large threads that were solved already
isn't good use of anybodies time.
Christian
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On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 09:01 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Christian Theune wrote:
> > We need to start using Launchpads tracking mechanisms for issues, filing
> > bugs or blueprints much earlier and much more often than having threads
> > just sit around in the
#x27;m happy to ask people to put stuff into launchpad. However, I think
that if a topic goes onto the washing list of the steering group, it
should definitely go into launchpad. The document we maintain in SVN
already asks whether it should better live in LP and I think it should.
Yeesh. I so wish I
Hi,
if tests spawn non-daemon threads, then the test runner can get stuck.
The easiest way that I see is to always --exit-with-status and to make
--exist-with-status also call sys.exit() when the tests passed.
Any objections?
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On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 13:30 +0200, Christian Theune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if tests spawn non-daemon threads, then the test runner can get stuck.
>
> The easiest way that I see is to always --exit-with-status and to make
> --exist-with-status also call sys.exit() when the test
(Note: you
can't force a passphrase onto the client either.)
From my understanding, the interesting part is what the DVCSs do: let
people sign their commits with e.g. their PGP key (strong auth) and
allow them to share that data somewhere (different mechanism maybe not
so strong auth).
Christian
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:17 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Christian Theune wrote at 2009-4-2 13:30 +0200:
> >if tests spawn non-daemon threads, then the test runner can get stuck.
> >
> >The easiest way that I see is to always --exit-with-status and to make
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Hi,
for some reason chameleon.zpt gives the following output:
...
head>
...
/html>
The template seems fine, anybody seen that before?
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> I still have to give a path to an "instance home" in a zope.conf file,
> which either needs to be filled in by buildout or otherwise '..' needs
> to be handled correctly for the etc/ case.
If your buildout does the right thing, then you should be able to
abstract t
terfaces.ITraversable"
> > > factory="zope.traversing.namespace.etc"
> > > />
> > > ...
> >
> > Excellent fix.
>
> *applause*
>
> Incidentally, I've a long-standing wish to be able to register browser
> views in ZC
like a typical bug.
Do the tests talk about unicode somewhere?
Christian
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I'm somewhat expecting that doing
will cause this package to do everything it needs to activate its
configuration.
E.g. z3c.form is partially painful because one has to do the same work
over and over again in figuring out which depending libraries need to be
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x27;m
happy to have Pauls or your changes merged on the trunk.
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in) that I'm happy for
having you participate.
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On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 00:59 +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:01:36AM +0200, Christian Theune wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 01:37 +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > > Incidentally, I've a long-standing wish to be able to register browser
> &
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:08 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
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> Christian Theune wrote:
> > [...]
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> > Nevertheless: passing in 0 seems to be the safe bet in general and I
> > wonder what is actually bre
us how to do this:
>
> 1) Simply write this directly into my page template
> 2) Hack zc.resourcelibrary, e.g. add a ZCML-directive "media"
> 3) Use some other package I'm unaware of
>
> Any suggestions?
4)
Just have it included as is and add the following sect
Hi,
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:42 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> (in particular Christian Theune)
thanks for reminding. I dropped the ball on those.
> What's the status of the 'import location' notification functionality in
> zope.testrunner?
I&#
to a naming thing: the component
lookup methods already support an argument to say where to look for
registries: it's called 'context'.
Christian
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Hi,
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:42 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> (in particular Christian Theune)
>
> What's the status of the 'import location' notification functionality in
> zope.testrunner?
>
> What's the status of the ZODB migrat
w(object):
def foo(self, x, y)
return x+y
def bar(self, a, b):
return x*y
It's a convenience thing but it pops up here and there.
Christian
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I can only remember in a
not-so-critical piece where performance currently is not an issue. Also,
following checkins even today wouldn't have me remember that this code
is shared.
Christian
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wants to join me, I've added the sprint to the EP wiki:
http://wiki.europython.eu/Sprints
Christian
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Zope and Pl
t implementations that
partly overlap at some points and its hard to explain why there are two
of them.
I'm not sure whether we can get a single unified implementation, but for
me that would be nice.
Christian
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Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com
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Hi,
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 09:49 +0200, Christian Theune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 12:42 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > (in particular Christian Theune)
> >
> > What's the status of the 'import location&#x
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