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have a bugfix in the line for Zope 2.9, you have till Sunday
night :).
Is Alec's traversal patch or Dieter's alternative being considered?
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Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
All done, please take a quick look at...
http://svn.zope.org/Products.Basket/
http://svn.zope.org/Products.ExternalEditor/
Looks good for ExternalEditor; I've updated the svn bundles for Plone to
grab EE from subversion instead.
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a very fair method of measuring deprecation time:
for stable releases which almost everyone uses the deprecation time will
have been the full year.
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of this discussion. I am
very much in favor of using tag names...revision number tell you
nothing...provide at least a reasonable version information...opinions?
+1 on tags
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Previously Andreas Jung wrote:
What do you mean with when the tag changes? A tag IMO should *never*
change.
What he describes sounds like modifying svn:externals to point to a
different tag.
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a side product.
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Previously Anton Stonor wrote:
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Shall we release once every 9 months from now on?
9 months pregnancy -- that's almost poetic.
And painful to deliver?
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I noticed that ZopeVersionControl is still actively maintained in CVS.
Would its maintainers mind moving it to subversion? That would make
it a lot easier for us to include it in the Plone 3.0 bundle.
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Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
On 6 Oct 2006, at 17:38, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I noticed that ZopeVersionControl is still actively maintained in CVS.
Would its maintainers mind moving it to subversion? That would make
it a lot easier for us to include it in the Plone 3.0 bundle.
I
Is something happening with svn.zope.org? I haven't been able to use
anonymous or authorized svn for two days.
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Did svn.zope.org move to a new server? If so and if if someone knows the
new IP address I can stick it in my /etc/hosts for now.
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Previously Chris Withers wrote:
There still appear to be some outstanding dns issues...
Chris
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Is something happening
at 63.240.213.1,
please provide details.
On 10/12/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There still appear to be some outstanding dns issues...
Chris
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Is something happening with svn.zope.org? I haven't been able to use
anonymous or authorized svn for two days
and, perhaps most tellingly, IIS and Microsoft's other server
offerings, don't install themselves in Program Files, they create their
own top level directory.
For their data, not for their binaries libraries.
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with ZopeVersionControl, which is
currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a
lot of us very happy.
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Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is
currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a
lot of us very happy.
I asked Jim about this and he told me to just import the current CVS
code into svn and go from
' file and 'cvs rm'ed the
remaining files from the CVS trunk.
Thanks for catching and fixing that!
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allow them to use svnsync to sync it to their own repository, outside of
zope.org.
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Previously Andreas Jung wrote:
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I'm forwarding a message from limi here, since it makes much more sense
here than it does on plone-developers. To summarize it: while analying
performance of the Plone 3 codebase
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote:
http://paste.plone.org/13217 should do the trick. It makes
_product_packages cache its result using the list of products in
Control_Panel as a cache key. That makes sure that removing or adding
products there will not result in stale data being returned
agree with
the basic approach though.
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AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'mapping'
Adding zope.sendmail as a develop egg instead of a normal egg worked
fine though; no zope.* packages were pulled in by buildout and the
zope.sendmail unittests run flawlessly.
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Previously Daniel Nouri wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I wanted to share a bit of experience I just had with use of eggs in Zope2.
For a project I am working on I want to use the zope.sendmail package in
a Zope2 environment managed using buildout. I added zope.sendmail to the
eggs list
Previously Daniel Nouri wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Daniel Nouri wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I wanted to share a bit of experience I just had with use of eggs in
Zope2.
For a project I am working on I want to use the zope.sendmail package in
a Zope2 environment managed
Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I wanted to share a bit of experience I just had with use of eggs in Zope2.
For a project I am working on I want to use the zope.sendmail package in
a Zope2 environment managed using buildout. I added zope.sendmail
used it and I like it.
Plone seems to be able to use it quite well, but they also have
people worrying about it and maintaining it constantly.
We haven't needed to touch trac in months actually.
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something
else, so I'd like to be able to write a plugin that does this.
I suspect that instead of doing yet another PAS plugin it would be more
useful to make the zserver logging modular.
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Previously Ross Patterson wrote:
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writes:
Previously Ross Patterson wrote:
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It seems like ZServer/medusa/http_server.py is responsible for logging
requests to the access log/Z2.log and it only extracts
for this I will supply a patch.
Sounds as a good first step.
Why do you need a microsecond resolution?
Performance benchmarks, small timeouts.
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which is a bit of a showstopper for this deployment. Does anyone know how this
can be fixed or worked around? There is a fair amount of deep magic to
the way Zope handles Products.* so I'ld like a few suggestions before I delve
into the deep.
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Previously Jim Fulton wrote:
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
+1
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not work. Plone 3.5
may very well require Zope 2.11.
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(if needed) sometime
in November. Any takers?
Regards,
Andreas
I would really like to see the acquisition branch Philipp and Hanno have
been working on merged in 2.11. Is that possible?
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Martin Aspeli wrote:
Fred Drake wrote:
On 10/17/07, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
other, but they still need to load the zcml from those dependencies
somehow. As a temporary solution to play
it been removed from the interface yet?
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versus requires, enlightenment versus grok, etc.)
but the problem is still the same.
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of extra information that is not in the interface: where
to find the registry. To get the global registry you can do this:
from zope.component.globalregistry import base as base_registry
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standard PYTHONPATH.
Wouldn't it make sense if zopeproject didn't include system python
in PYTHONPATH at all?
No.
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with an exact
revision number which you select in a version part in buildout.cfg.
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something to magically make your pin go away.
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Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
Christian Theune wrote:
Martijn Faassen schrieb:
[snip]
It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the
version number) repeats here.
It's not clear to me that it's a DRY
tool to
create isolated, debuggable tests.
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Previously Benji York wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
I realize I have said this before, but then others keep urging the
doctests everywhere meme.
Indeed, and for that reason this can't be said enough. Doctests are
useful to create testable documentation
all the plone.app.* packages in a
single package.
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something, which happened to me more than once too often.
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class or id on the different
type of input fields. You do not want your checkboxes to be just
as wide as your text input fields!
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Previously Christian Zagrodnick wrote:
On 2008-04-07 09:25:28 +0200, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
That depends on the type of input you want to influence. For text
input elements the size attribute indicates the maximum number of
characters a user can input in the field, and you
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mean non ASCII URI's, not non ASCII ids here I suspect. Somehow I'm
not surprised those are painful :(
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for the installation.
Also note that the entire deployment (except for the Data.fs of course)
is available on svn.zope.org.
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updated sites I do a lot of updates installs without
making full releases and it is extremely convenient to be able to see
which exact revision number I'm currently using.
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Previously Reinout van Rees wrote:
Wichert Akkerman schreef:
Previously Reinout van Rees wrote:
Tres Seaver schreef:
Daniel Nouri wrote:
1.0dev-r27844 seems to be gone from PyPI.
Such a version should *never* have been released to PyPI (any egg /
source dist with an SVN revision number
if there was a docstring or interface that made that
explicit. I've updated the relevant code in plone.app.portlets though
since the change is harmless.
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it into the Zope 2.12 release which is
at this point not scheduled yet, but is unlikely to get a release before
early 2009. This should give us plenty of time to test.
Opinions, votes?
+sys.maxint!
I'm afraid any further +1s will turn that into a negative score now.
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with the same Zope 3 libraries
as 2.11, etc.).
+1
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meet certain criteria
but won't allow you to redistribute it with just standard LGPL
licensing.
That and the fact that extjs produces insane html (11 nested divs for a
simple table...) was reason for me to not use it.
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Previously Martijn Faassen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
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I'd like to rip out the old Interface module from the 2.11 branch and
the trunk, along
uses hashed passwords and anything unexpected, such as
using command that produces a lot of output such as locals(), breaks
the whole session makes me suspect that nobody is using that.
What do other people use? Is there any interest in improving the medusa
monitor server?
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Previously Christian Theune wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
I'm trying to figure out what the current state of the art for
monitoring Zope2 processes is. Ideally I'ld want the equivalent of
zc.z3monitor.
I figured the medua monitorserver would
with only human readable text
in title and description attributes (and perhaps a few others) and the
translation domain specified in a i18n_domain attribute. It should be
quite trivial to extract that data without having to pull all of zope
in.
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the others? Would it
perhaps make more sense to use one of the more widely used tools instead
of maintaing our own testing toolkit?
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Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Laurence Rowe wrote:
Log message for revision 86849:
Purge old zope2 Interface interfaces for Zope 2.12 compatibility.
This change, and other, do something very
Previously Tres Seaver wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
The fact is that right now, today, we still have code that relies on Z2
interfaces. Not just in third party products - current Zope2 releases
rely on Z2 interfaces in some places as well.
Only by oversight, not by design (the only one
for Z2 interfaces. Right now I have a feeling that the strategy is 'oh,
this has been deprecated for years but we forgot to put the mesasge out,
but we'll remove it anyway'. That can't be right.
Add some zope.deprecate calls around Z2 interfaces in the 2.9-2.11
trees. Really.
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consensus on the Z2 interfaces thread — does
this release emit deprecation warnings for the Z2 interfaces?
Tres made that change after Andreas made the c1 release.
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around python 2.4's threading module so you can use that
directly.
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That is correct. You need to audit your check to check for undesired
writes.
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/plone/plone.z3cform/ has Zope2 integration code
for it. I don't think anything in it is plone-specific.
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to update two places.
I think the more interesting question is, why we need a persistent
registry of installed products and any information about them at all
anymore?
ZClasses
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I see zope.testing 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 in svn and used by Zope2 but the
latest version on pypi is 3.5.1. Why is that? And can that be corrected?
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access zope.testing to
verify that theory.
Pypi always marks the last upload as the only visible version, which
means Andreas's two uploads should have been visible. A quick peek at
http://pypi.python.org/simple/zope.testing/ shows that 3.5.2 really was
removed.
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than PAU plugins.
It's also perfectly possible to use non-AT content as source for users
with PAS as well as tools such as b-org demonstrate.
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Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote:
Hi *,
within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's PAU
with
Plone's PAS and further enable (non-AT) content objects as source for
users and
groups. All
with sticking to PAS. Since Zope3 is not a successor to Zope2 but a
completely different thing I do not think this is problematic.
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Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Can you include the just released ZODB 3.8.1 as well?
I misread that commit, ZODB is at b5, not final, so disregard this.
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annotations.
FWIW none of my code uses anything other than simple types for
annotations.
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** No cross
compatible at both the API and persistence
level.
If there are no objections I intend to merge the branch to trunk in a
few days.
Wichert.
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
If there are no objections I intend to merge the branch to trunk in a
few days
I am uncomfortable with the way you approached this. I think there are at
least two other possibilities that I can see without
, as it means that reregistrations are not
detected as such.
-if (self._utility_registrations.get((provided, name))
+if (self._utility_registrations.get((provided, name)[:2])
Excellent catch, fixed.
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to admit that I'm baffled.
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the previous version in
their buildout download cache they will never get the new version. I
prefer a minor version number bump instead of re-uploading.
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working on a package for this functionality in z3c.unconfigure right
now. Name inspired by Martin's suggestion above; my original prototype
used had a different name but this is much better :).
I am using z3c.unconfigure now and it works perfectly.
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Previously Christophe Combelles wrote:
Is this change ok?
It seems to solve the previous failures in the 3.4 kgs, and speeds up the
test.
To just prevent upgrades you can use 'newest = false'.
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