Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Sandbox/nadako/zope.app.publisher/ Clean up dependencies.

2009-08-27 Thread Charlie Clark
the curve but at some point I discovered there are others even slower than me. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research Ltd. German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 GSM: +49-178-782-6226 Company No. 06770088

Re: [Zope-dev] UnicodeDecodeError problems with Zope 2.12.0b4

2009-08-30 Thread Charlie Clark
. zope.publisher.http.getPreferredCharsets() is where this magic happens. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research Ltd. German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 GSM: +49-178-782-6226 Company No. 06770088 ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] UnicodeDecodeError problems with Zope 2.12.0b4

2009-08-30 Thread Charlie Clark
/143873 So, it should be in the current code-base and shouldn't be happening at all in Zope 2.12. So it could be something else. I only know about it because I keep on it hitting it in Windows installs as there isn't a binary of 2.11 with the fix. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] UnicodeDecodeError problems with Zope 2.12.0b4

2009-08-30 Thread Charlie Clark
. Will give a try this week and am very much looking forward to removing my hackish override. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research Ltd. German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 GSM: +49-178-782-6226 Company No. 06770088

Re: [Zope-dev] Integrating zope2 with Django

2009-09-27 Thread Charlie Clark
want an idea of MVC development with Zope then I can heartily recommend Web Component Development with Zope 3 by Philip von Weitershausen. But there are also Plone specific books. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtztstr. 20 Düsseldorf D

Re: [Zope-dev] ploneconf2009

2009-09-30 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 30.09.2009, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com: Hello, Anyone coming? Me (And ZTK sprinting?) Unlikely - I have some time on the Saturday but if I get to some sprinting it will be CMF. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.filerepresentation

2009-10-01 Thread Charlie Clark
prefer to stick with content-type otherwise I'd suggest the email module's content-type handling. But we *are* in a Zope package, so Zope naming conventions probably apply. I go with Pythonic conventions wherever possible. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] A note on the PyCon Program committee.

2009-11-02 Thread Charlie Clark
at the Plone Conference and I'm going to do my best to make sure the Zope is better represented at next year's Europython. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

[Zope-dev] Setuptools / Distribute

2009-11-17 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, I'm about to migrate my first Zope to project to buildout. Does it matter whether I use setuptools or distribute? And is there any preference for one over the other? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215

Re: [Zope-dev] Setuptools / Distribute

2009-11-17 Thread Charlie Clark
with setuptools. Very much more diplomatic than how I would have put it! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev

[Zope-dev] Handling instance specific configuration files with buildout

2009-11-18 Thread Charlie Clark
stuff to the instance's etc folder. We have some configuration files which are instance specific which we have so far kept in in etc/config. Do I need to create a recipe that does this for this part? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] Handling instance specific configuration files with buildout

2009-11-18 Thread Charlie Clark
for Zope 2.12 some time soon, which should suffice for Plone too... And presumably CMF! Thanks Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Handling instance specific configuration files with buildout

2009-11-18 Thread Charlie Clark
... And presumably CMF! Indeed, provided you're on 2.12... Indeed I am! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Handling instance specific configuration files with buildout

2009-11-18 Thread Charlie Clark
= rm -rf ${buildout:parts-directory}/instance/etc/cfg; cp -R ./src/camaoCms.cfg ${buildout:parts-directory}/instance/etc/cfg; Works fine even thought I'm sure it can be improved. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-28 Thread Charlie Clark
convention, presumably from convenience. But my understanding of adapters does not imply this. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] make zope.component.registry.Components inherit from dict?

2009-11-28 Thread Charlie Clark
, ISettings, u'')) This would, of course, be available as a dictionary call, although I'm not sure I'd see great advantage in that. All assuming, of course, the implemntation didn't clash with a localSiteManager but I think from other posts that it does. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-28 Thread Charlie Clark
I do, repeatedly, make simple mistakes with the adapter, utility (wrong name, wrong signature) stuff I very much appreciate attempts to simplify and clarify the API. But I will greet them the same poor grasp of the underlying concepts than I did the originals! Charlie -- Charlie Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-28 Thread Charlie Clark
it be too far fetched to imagine an engine adapting a car and petrol to provide motion? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-30 Thread Charlie Clark
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Re: [Zope-dev] summary of discussion was: adapter vs factory Re: implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-12-01 Thread Charlie Clark
out for clarity seeing as that's all the utility does. I hope my analogies aren't too far off the mark. Helps me a lot not to think about what's really going on. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCA proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Charlie Clark
that this is definitely a conceptual pothole and most of the use I've seen is of interfaces as markers (smartcards). Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.form and zope.formlib

2010-01-11 Thread Charlie Clark
zope.publisher.interfaces.browser.IBrowserRequest factory=.errors.InvalidErrorView permission=zope.Public / Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-13 Thread Charlie Clark
or binary eggs on Windows, ie. zope.container 3.10 for Python 2.6. Is there an easy way of checking for such eggs? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-13 Thread Charlie Clark
with the resulting information! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 13.01.2010, 16:58 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu: probably overkill for this current project thanks to virtualisation but definitely something that should be worked on. As would, of course, buildots that could do something with the resulting information

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Clark
/Zope2/index/2.12.3/. For that version binary eggs exist. At the risk of looking even more foolish than usual, I didn't specify that version, it's what you get unless you specify otherwise. I think it's true for a whole load of components such as zope.formlib. Charlie -- Charlie Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-14 Thread Charlie Clark
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-04 Thread Charlie Clark
(from the point of view of separating markup from layout). But my work rate isn't brilliant so it would be good to have a sparring partner or two. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-06 Thread Charlie Clark
sqlvar) and similar languages but for the life of me I have not been able to find a trace of this. Did I imagine it? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-06 Thread Charlie Clark
removing DTML entirely from the code base would bring little benefit at considerable cost. However, I assume that once major consumers of DTML such as the ZMI and ZSQL were migrated it might become easier to refactor code to make DTML optional in time. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-06 Thread Charlie Clark
communication Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-07 Thread Charlie Clark
just not use ZSQL. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that. I would like an alternative to DTML for ZSQL which would generate SQL with the appropriate placeholders and some minimal templating logic. But that would be a different project. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-07 Thread Charlie Clark
in March. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-07 Thread Charlie Clark
is probably misleading. Just as it is important to update the Python code to work with the newer releases of Python I think the aesthetic components should be brought up-to-date technically. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-07 Thread Charlie Clark
and smoother way doing SQL related programming nowadays. I don't mind writing SQL and I think it has it's place in the world. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't use SQL generators such as SQLAlchemy and Storm and I agree that this now the most common approach. Charlie -- Charlie Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/tseaver-clarify_install_docs/doc/ Split out docs for 'normal' installation from those using 'zc.buildout'.

2010-03-06 Thread Charlie Clark
. But this is not just about getting up and running. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-31 Thread Charlie Clark
kind. Upgrades on systems without a compiler are also going to be easier. +1 in general but -1 if it is really just about windows binaries. I like the idea of cleaning up dependencies and optional C-optimisations but as a general process. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-31 Thread Charlie Clark
, especially buildbots if the C extensions don't need compiling every time. My comment was similar to your initial question an attempt to clarify the why. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Charlie Clark
- a summary of the proposed changes / bugfixes for us to moan about! ;-) Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Charlie Clark
throws up nothing. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Charlie Clark
or Chameleon. Replacing here with context in templates is easy enough. That said, I did get pretty scared when I looked at the implementation! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 roadmap

2010-04-01 Thread Charlie Clark
sense for Zope 2 might always be biased as I noted Which is what the discussion is for and thanks for getting it stared. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Test summary missing from yesterday

2010-04-03 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 03.04.2010, 09:44 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: I'm missing the test summary from yesterday. Could it be that it choked on one of my mails? I didn't for either zope or the cmf but normal service seems to have been resumed. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

[Zope-dev] IRC Meeting at 15:00 UTC

2010-04-06 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, my calendar tells me we've got a meeting scheduled for 15:00 UTC. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this week's IRC meeting (2010-04-06)

2010-04-06 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 06.04.2010, 18:15 Uhr, schrieb Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: I am attaching this week's summary. Thanks, Tres. I really like this bite-size approach. As Theuni mentioned last week we'll also need a way for handling the supersized issues. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-19 Thread Charlie Clark
? Charlie [1] http://www.stereoplex.com/2010/jan/14/migrating-django-mingus/ -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.5 - this weekend

2010-04-19 Thread Charlie Clark
is bug day: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BugDay20100424 Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-21 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 20.04.2010, 18:43 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: Let me raise another issue which is that we also need to figure out how to follow up with this once we start. Could get a lint template (or whatever it's called) to help here? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-22 Thread Charlie Clark
-lint/ I'll admit to not using PyLint (from Nuxeo) myself on a regular basis but this is as much down to not knowing how to configure it to work with Zope projects as much as anything else. But maybe we can add it to anything the repository policy checker? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.formjs on win32 + KGS

2010-04-24 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 24.04.2010, 17:47 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com: * Use an other JSON converter (simplejson?) As long as it's a straight drop-in. Otherwise keep it out of the KGS until a replacement is found. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK community packages

2010-04-25 Thread Charlie Clark
of packages in the ZTK? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-27 Thread Charlie Clark
it's not been done a lot in the past? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

[Zope-dev] ZTK Friends Bug Day 19th May 2010

2010-04-28 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, It was agreed yesterday that little and often bug days are a good idea. The next one will be 19th May 2010. Whether working with others together or just staying in touch on IRC the idea is to try and work on outstanding bugs. It's worth noting that many bug reports come with patches that just

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.event/tags/3.5.0/ Tagging 3.5.0

2010-05-01 Thread Charlie Clark
system. The problem is that on its own simple can mean both simple to use (true) and trivial (not true). Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.event/tags/3.5.0/ Tagging 3.5.0

2010-05-01 Thread Charlie Clark
? why are we so obsessed with double entendres?). Compact? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Charlie Clark
obviously a big, and possibly very justified, itch to scratch. Is it possible to present it less acrimoniously? If you succeed in monopolising the conversation we will be back where started. Respectfully, Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Charlie Clark
change for anyone coming from the Zope 2 world but that's largely because we were so slow in making the change ourselves. Charlie * I am actually aware of several commercial Python deployments that run only on 2.1 and they have all kinds of problems of their own. -- Charlie Clark Managing

[Zope-dev] IRC Meeting Today at 15:00 UTC

2010-05-04 Thread Charlie Clark
tracking - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune) - Towards a ZTK release - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB) - Documentation - Release scope - Test runners / nightly builds - Windows machines - Meta - How to organize open issues in the long run

[Zope-dev] Zope-Dev Weekly Meeting Summary

2010-05-04 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, quite a crowd today. Must be have been drawn by my star status! ;-) Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226= Weekly Zope developer

Re: [Zope-dev] IRC Meeting Today at 15:00 UTC

2010-05-04 Thread Charlie Clark
the dumb questions. But we should probably all have a go at it every now and then for practice. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] adding the weekly irc meetings record to the ZTK docs?

2010-05-04 Thread Charlie Clark
location and form are less important than having an archive*. We'll have something sorted by next week. Probably. Charlie *Of course I want Wag the Dog style access to the archive for when I need to change history! ;-) -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

[Zope-dev] IRC Meeting Today at 15:00 UTC

2010-05-11 Thread Charlie Clark
status - Windows builds - ZTK status - Preparing for Bugday 2010-05-19 Ongoing issues -- Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just need to follow up on them eventually. - Bug tracking - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune) - Towards

[Zope-dev] Zope-Dev Weekly Meeting Summary

2010-05-12 Thread Charlie Clark
Hi, the summary of this week's meeting which by the magic of technology is now also in the repository: http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/ Reminder to all: bug day next week with triaging still required. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem in Fetching values from the ZSQL method

2010-05-19 Thread Charlie Clark
the call by passing in the src__=True parameter. This will allow you to see exactly what SQL is being sent to the database. Please help to resolve the issue. All help are really appreciated. Its really critical Please help. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC, Agenda attached

2010-06-02 Thread Charlie Clark
unsure. Well, I did make it. It was a fairly brief meeting, here's the summary. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 zope-dev-20100601.rst Description: Binary data

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting on IRC in #zope today at 15:00 UTC

2010-06-08 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 08.06.2010, 09:18 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: - KGS 3.4.1 release state - Test runners/nightly builds - Meta I'd like to add Adding Python 2.7 to the buildbots to that now that the RC is out. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Charlie Clark
2.7 would be great if doable (again not clear) and bumping the ZODB version. So the scope and schedule for the release is fine with me. We might want to add some of the issues to the weekly IRC meetings. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 36 OK, 8 Failed

2010-06-13 Thread Charlie Clark
version rather worrying about which compiler flags have to be set. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

[Zope-dev] Problem with CMF trunk and Zope 2 trunk

2010-06-23 Thread Charlie Clark
name: 'ZServer' File name: 'component.xml' Package path: None -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with CMF trunk and Zope 2 trunk

2010-06-23 Thread Charlie Clark
folders are no longer part of AccessControl, please depend on Zope2 and import from OFS.userfolder or use the new minimal user folder classes from AccessControl.userfolder. return getattr(m, name) I think we need to fix these imports in CMF. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB Documentation Fundraising

2010-06-25 Thread Charlie Clark
us some money. You can use Paypal or send us a check. I don't do Paypal and I couldn't send you a cheque if I wanted to. IBAN, please. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178

Re: [Zope-dev] [zope2] Help needed with security checks and add views

2010-06-26 Thread Charlie Clark
are handled but in the exception handling. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting in IRC tomorrow at 15:00 UTC

2010-06-28 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 28.06.2010, 18:45 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: As I probably won't make it tomorrow (Charlie, taking over?) First IRC, next the mailing list and the world! Yep, I'll be on hand to listen to all your Zope woes and fears. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark

[Zope-dev] Help!

2010-06-30 Thread Charlie Clark
Well, that should be all I need to say - the help system is missing from Zope 2 trunk. I don't know exactly when it disappeared but I use it occasionally as a quick way to check on stuff and Hanno didn't mention it was due to be called in Zope 2.13 Is it coming back? Charlie -- Charlie

Re: [Zope-dev] Help!

2010-06-30 Thread Charlie Clark
but I find it still has it's uses. And it's available offline. So if we could keep it, or something like it around that would be good, I think. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting, week 27

2010-07-05 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 05.07.2010, 18:55 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: - The use of CVS keywords ($Id$) and whether to keep them, ignore them, remove them. We can add the c-optimisations considered optional and how to configure them to that list. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 and the ZTK - three test failures

2010-07-06 Thread Charlie Clark
misconception on my part. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 and the ZTK - three test failures

2010-07-06 Thread Charlie Clark
are their failures. Shouldn't we be testing documentation differently? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-13 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-12 Thread Charlie Clark
. Additional suggestions welcome until 13:00 UTC. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Charlie Clark
new versions. bin/test-ztk should now pass under Python 2.7. Have I missed a mail with more failures? I would have thought getting those tests to pass for a release is a reasonable aim. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-07-13 Thread Charlie Clark
to see templates generating statements with positional placeholders to be passed to .execute(stmt, paras) calls. I'm sure I remember seeing something like SmartTemplate a few years ago which looked suitable for this. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German

Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Charlie Clark
expect a release just based on new syntax. Have you got a specific example in mind? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-07-15 Thread Charlie Clark
at the mxODBCZope DA as well. I'm not sure what other Products are likely to be affected by these kind of changes. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-27 Thread Charlie Clark
a brewery tour as part of BeGeistert which was very enjoyable and popular and I think there's a natural fit between Python programmers and craftsmen. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-07-30 Thread Charlie Clark
for their official support. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-08-02 Thread Charlie Clark
is with the ZTK group. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+

2010-08-04 Thread Charlie Clark
Product. OTOH if you don't want to stick with Products. you will need to add something like zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're good. Hope this idiot's guide helps. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+

2010-08-04 Thread Charlie Clark
instance, which I believe is a bit tricky to work on all platforms. That said the recipe could probably be a simpler. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-18 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 18.08.2010, 08:36 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: looks like my announcement was too late already. It was too late for me to say I couldn't make it. Greetings from the Oil Slick Sprint in Duck, NC! Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't get ZODB 3.10 by installing Zope2.13

2010-08-23 Thread Charlie Clark
that the older version of ZODB is already there. Or some dependency of ZODB isn't met by your system. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.9 broke ZMySQLDA in the middle of a stable release series

2010-08-29 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 15.07.2010, 13:39 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu: I'll check ZPsycopgDA and make sure we look at the mxODBCZope DA as well. I'm not sure what other Products are likely to be affected by these kind of changes. Taken a while but I can confirm that this also

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-31 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 31.08.2010, 10:34 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over. Sure, if you need me to. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-31 Thread Charlie Clark
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Re: [Zope-dev] UnicodeDecodeError from PageTemplate rendering after upgrading to Zope 2.12.7

2010-08-31 Thread Charlie Clark
it had been squashed. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] UnicodeDecodeError from PageTemplate rendering after upgrading to Zope 2.12.7

2010-08-31 Thread Charlie Clark
, but I don't know how relevant this is in your case, Jens improved FSPageTemplate https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/322263 Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-07 Thread Charlie Clark
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Re: [Zope-dev] IUnicodeEncodingConflictResolver moronosity

2010-09-21 Thread Charlie Clark
, pointing the finger in totally the wrong direction (hence Charlie's hacked up getPreferredCharsets and poor Vlad's desperate attempts). Chris, rant aside it sounds like you've identified a bug. Can you submit a bug so we can hopefully fix it in 2.13? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director

Re: [Zope-dev] IUnicodeEncodingConflictResolver moronosity

2010-09-21 Thread Charlie Clark
some brief documentation, to facilitate testing. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] IUnicodeEncodingConflictResolver moronosity

2010-09-22 Thread Charlie Clark
applications. Can we come up with some tests (ZODB data and presumably client encodings) and a workaround to enable the fudge? I don't know how much non-ASCII you have but the odd ? might turn out to be quite a lot for some people. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-28 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 28.09.2010, 16:42 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: I won't be there today as I have to fix some stuff around my flat, but I'll go through the logs tomorrow. I guess this means a job for Theuni's stand-in! See you all in a few minutes. :-D Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing

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