the curve but at some point I discovered there are others even
slower than me.
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So, it should be in the current code-base and shouldn't be happening at
all in Zope 2.12. So it could be something else.
I only know about it because I keep on it hitting it in Windows installs
as there isn't a binary of 2.11 with the fix.
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give a try this week and am very much looking forward to removing my
hackish override.
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want an idea of MVC development with Zope then I can heartily
recommend Web Component Development with Zope 3 by Philip von
Weitershausen. But there are also Plone specific books.
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Am 30.09.2009, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com:
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Anyone coming?
Me
(And ZTK sprinting?)
Unlikely - I have some time on the Saturday but if I get to some sprinting
it will be CMF.
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prefer to
stick with content-type otherwise I'd suggest the email module's
content-type handling.
But we *are* in a Zope package, so Zope naming conventions probably
apply.
I go with Pythonic conventions wherever possible.
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at the Plone Conference and I'm going to do my best to
make sure the Zope is better represented at next year's Europython.
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Hi,
I'm about to migrate my first Zope to project to buildout. Does it matter
whether I use setuptools or distribute? And is there any preference for
one over the other?
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setuptools.
Very much more diplomatic than how I would have put it!
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stuff to the instance's etc folder. We have some configuration files
which are instance specific which we have so far kept in in etc/config. Do
I need to create a recipe that does this for this part?
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for Zope 2.12 some time soon, which should suffice for Plone
too...
And presumably CMF!
Thanks
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And presumably CMF!
Indeed, provided you're on 2.12...
Indeed I am!
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rm -rf ${buildout:parts-directory}/instance/etc/cfg;
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Works fine even thought I'm sure it can be improved.
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convention,
presumably from convenience. But my understanding of adapters does not
imply this.
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, ISettings, u''))
This would, of course, be available as a dictionary call, although I'm not
sure I'd see great advantage in that. All assuming, of course, the
implemntation didn't clash with a localSiteManager but I think from other
posts that it does.
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I do, repeatedly, make simple mistakes with the adapter, utility
(wrong name, wrong signature) stuff I very much appreciate attempts to
simplify and clarify the API. But I will greet them the same poor grasp of
the underlying concepts than I did the originals!
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it be too far fetched to imagine an engine adapting a car and
petrol to provide motion?
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out for clarity
seeing as that's all the utility does.
I hope my analogies aren't too far off the mark. Helps me a lot not to
think about what's really going on.
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that this is definitely a conceptual pothole and most of
the use I've seen is of interfaces as markers (smartcards).
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or binary eggs on Windows, ie.
zope.container 3.10 for Python 2.6. Is there an easy way of checking for
such eggs?
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Am 13.01.2010, 16:58 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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probably overkill for this current project thanks to virtualisation but
definitely something that should be worked on. As would, of course,
buildots that could do something with the resulting information
/Zope2/index/2.12.3/. For that version binary
eggs exist.
At the risk of looking even more foolish than usual, I didn't specify that
version, it's what you get unless you specify otherwise. I think it's true
for a whole load of components such as zope.formlib.
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(from the point of
view of separating markup from layout). But my work rate isn't brilliant
so it would be good to have a sparring partner or two.
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sqlvar) and similar languages but for the life of me I have not been able
to find a trace of this. Did I imagine it?
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removing DTML entirely from
the code base would bring little benefit at considerable cost. However, I
assume that once major consumers of DTML such as the ZMI and ZSQL were
migrated it might become easier to refactor code to make DTML optional in
time.
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communication
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just not use ZSQL.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that. I would like an alternative to DTML
for ZSQL which would generate SQL with the appropriate placeholders and
some minimal templating logic. But that would be a different project.
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in March.
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is probably
misleading. Just as it is important to update the Python code to work with
the newer releases of Python I think the aesthetic components should be
brought up-to-date technically.
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and smoother way doing SQL related programming nowadays.
I don't mind writing SQL and I think it has it's place in the world.
That doesn't mean that people shouldn't use SQL generators such as
SQLAlchemy and Storm and I agree that this now the most common approach.
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. But this is not just about getting up and running.
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kind. Upgrades on systems without a compiler are also
going to be easier.
+1 in general but -1 if it is really just about windows binaries.
I like the idea of cleaning up dependencies and optional C-optimisations
but as a general process.
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, especially buildbots if the C extensions don't
need compiling every time. My comment was similar to your initial question
an attempt to clarify the why.
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- a summary of the proposed changes / bugfixes for us
to moan about! ;-)
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or Chameleon. Replacing here with context in templates is
easy enough. That said, I did get pretty scared when I looked at the
implementation!
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sense for Zope 2 might always be biased as I
noted
Which is what the discussion is for and thanks for getting it stared.
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Am 03.04.2010, 09:44 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
I'm missing the test summary from yesterday. Could it be that it choked
on one of my mails?
I didn't for either zope or the cmf but normal service seems to have been
resumed.
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Hi,
my calendar tells me we've got a meeting scheduled for 15:00 UTC.
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I am attaching this week's summary.
Thanks, Tres. I really like this bite-size approach. As Theuni mentioned
last week we'll also need a way for handling the supersized issues.
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[1] http://www.stereoplex.com/2010/jan/14/migrating-django-mingus/
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is bug day:
http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BugDay20100424
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Am 20.04.2010, 18:43 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
Let me raise another issue which is that we also need to figure out how
to follow up with this once we start.
Could get a lint template (or whatever it's called) to help here?
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-lint/
I'll admit to not using PyLint (from Nuxeo) myself on a regular basis but
this is as much down to not knowing how to configure it to work with Zope
projects as much as anything else. But maybe we can add it to anything the
repository policy checker?
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Am 24.04.2010, 17:47 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com:
* Use an other JSON converter (simplejson?)
As long as it's a straight drop-in. Otherwise keep it out of the KGS until
a replacement is found.
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of packages in the ZTK?
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it's not been done a lot in the past?
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Hi,
It was agreed yesterday that little and often bug days are a good idea.
The next one will be 19th May 2010. Whether working with others together
or just staying in touch on IRC the idea is to try and work on outstanding
bugs. It's worth noting that many bug reports come with patches that just
system.
The problem is that on its own simple can mean both simple to use (true)
and trivial (not true).
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? why are we so obsessed with double
entendres?). Compact?
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obviously a big, and possibly very justified, itch to scratch. Is
it possible to present it less acrimoniously? If you succeed in
monopolising the conversation we will be back where started.
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change
for anyone coming from the Zope 2 world but that's largely because we were
so slow in making the change ourselves.
Charlie
* I am actually aware of several commercial Python deployments that run
only on 2.1 and they have all kinds of problems of their own.
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Hi,
quite a crowd today. Must be have been drawn by my star status! ;-)
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the dumb
questions. But we should probably all have a go at it every now and then
for practice.
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location and form are less important than
having an archive*. We'll have something sorted by next week. Probably.
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status
- Windows builds
- ZTK status
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Hi,
the summary of this week's meeting which by the magic of technology is now
also in the repository:
http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/
Reminder to all: bug day next week with triaging still required.
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the call by passing in the src__=True parameter. This will
allow you to see exactly what SQL is being sent to the database.
Please help to resolve the issue. All help are really appreciated. Its
really critical Please help.
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unsure.
Well, I did make it. It was a fairly brief meeting, here's the summary.
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Am 08.06.2010, 09:18 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
- KGS 3.4.1 release state
- Test runners/nightly builds
- Meta
I'd like to add Adding Python 2.7 to the buildbots to that now that the
RC is out.
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2.7 would be great if
doable (again not clear) and bumping the ZODB version. So the scope and
schedule for the release is fine with me. We might want to add some of the
issues to the weekly IRC meetings.
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version rather worrying about which compiler
flags have to be set.
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File name: 'component.xml'
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folders are no longer
part of AccessControl, please depend on Zope2 and import from
OFS.userfolder or use the new minimal user folder classes from
AccessControl.userfolder.
return getattr(m, name)
I think we need to fix these imports in CMF.
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us some money. You can use Paypal or send
us a check.
I don't do Paypal and I couldn't send you a cheque if I wanted to. IBAN,
please.
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are handled but in the
exception handling.
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Am 28.06.2010, 18:45 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
As I probably won't make it tomorrow (Charlie, taking over?)
First IRC, next the mailing list and the world!
Yep, I'll be on hand to listen to all your Zope woes and fears.
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Well, that should be all I need to say - the help system is missing from
Zope 2 trunk. I don't know exactly when it disappeared but I use it
occasionally as a quick way to check on stuff and Hanno didn't mention it
was due to be called in Zope 2.13
Is it coming back?
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but I find it still has it's uses. And it's
available offline. So if we could keep it, or something like it around
that would be good, I think.
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Am 05.07.2010, 18:55 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
- The use of CVS keywords ($Id$) and whether to keep them, ignore them,
remove them.
We can add the c-optimisations considered optional and how to configure
them to that list.
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misconception
on my part.
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are their failures. Shouldn't we be testing documentation
differently?
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Additional suggestions welcome until 13:00 UTC.
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new versions. bin/test-ztk should
now pass under Python 2.7.
Have I missed a mail with more failures? I would have thought getting
those tests to pass for a release is a reasonable aim.
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to see templates generating statements with positional placeholders
to be passed to .execute(stmt, paras) calls. I'm sure I remember seeing
something like SmartTemplate a few years ago which looked suitable for
this.
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expect a release just based on
new syntax. Have you got a specific example in mind?
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at the mxODBCZope DA as well.
I'm not sure what other Products are likely to be affected by these kind
of changes.
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a brewery tour as part of BeGeistert which was very
enjoyable and popular and I think there's a natural fit between Python
programmers and craftsmen.
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for their official support.
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is with the ZTK
group.
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Product.
OTOH if you don't want to stick with Products. you will need to add
something like
zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're
good.
Hope this idiot's guide helps.
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instance, which I believe is a bit
tricky to work on all platforms. That said the recipe could probably be a
simpler.
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Am 18.08.2010, 08:36 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
looks like my announcement was too late already.
It was too late for me to say I couldn't make it.
Greetings from the Oil Slick Sprint in Duck, NC!
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that the older
version of ZODB is already there. Or some dependency of ZODB isn't met by
your system.
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Am 15.07.2010, 13:39 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu:
I'll check ZPsycopgDA and make sure we look at the mxODBCZope DA as well.
I'm not sure what other Products are likely to be affected by these kind
of changes.
Taken a while but I can confirm that this also
Am 31.08.2010, 10:34 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
Thanks for noting. That reminds me that I can't be there either, but
I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over.
Sure, if you need me to.
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it had been squashed.
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, but I don't know how relevant this is in your case, Jens
improved FSPageTemplate
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/322263
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, pointing the finger in totally the wrong direction (hence
Charlie's hacked up getPreferredCharsets and poor Vlad's desperate
attempts).
Chris,
rant aside it sounds like you've identified a bug. Can you submit a bug so
we can hopefully fix it in 2.13?
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some brief
documentation, to facilitate testing.
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applications. Can we come up with some tests (ZODB
data and presumably client encodings) and a workaround to enable the
fudge? I don't know how much non-ASCII you have but the odd ? might turn
out to be quite a lot for some people.
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Am 28.09.2010, 16:42 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com:
I won't be there today as I have to fix some stuff around my flat, but
I'll go through the logs tomorrow.
I guess this means a job for Theuni's stand-in! See you all in a few
minutes. :-D
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