Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?

2010-02-17 Thread MaryAnn Helland
John -- I am sure that Dick is just thrilled that you approve of his post, and 
is no doubt composing his letter of gratitude to you at this very moment.

For myself, I find your self-congratulatory post piggy-backed onto his very 
informative one gratuitous and annoying (and we are supposed to think for 
ourselves, right?  After all, you said so!).  Nothing that Dick said in his 
post supports your claim that CS will kill off some of the good bacteria in 
the intestines if used daily. If anything, his acknowledgement that he made 
silver nitrate and consumed that for years supports the general claim of this 
group that EIS, as we make it here, is a very safe product (insert nod here to 
the threshhold issue that Mike reminded me of yesterday).

If I may -- and I speak only for myself -- you might find yourself a more 
valued member of the list here if you would *share* your convictions, rather 
than issue edicts, and acknowledge it when something you say proves to be wrong 
and/or inadequate.  And refrain from belittling people who do not agree with 
you.  Hopefully, you're listening.
Very best regards,
Mary Ann  





From: John E. Stevens jonellis.steven...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 11:45:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSeffects of STOPPING EIS?

Good points, Dick.  Adds a lot to what I said originally about being careful in 
the use of colloidal silver water.  hopefully others are listening...

John


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

OK, I have been waiting for some outcomes of Dr. visits to write this, and 
while I'm still waiting for certain results, I think this is a good time to 
send out some preliminary information about things that can go wrong with the 
way EIS can be made and/or used.

First, my wife and I started taking EIS made by an acquaintance of our Dr. 
about 3 years ago, to get rid of lyme, with which we had both been diagnosed.  
The treatment was apparently successful after a year or two, all lyme symptoms 
having disappeared.

The EIS this guy made was mostly the approximately the color of tea -- light 
to dark brown.  He generally had a mixture of colloidal silver and gold, and 
sometimes mixed in other things.  This was for drinking and external spraying. 
 He had other stronger stuff, sometimes with copper in it, for external 
spraying or soaking only, not for drinking.

He also made completely clear stuff for infusions, of which we had many in the 
beginning.

He showed me how to make EIS, including a technique he later used whereby he 
arced high voltage between the positive silver electrode and the soup after 
it reached a high enough PPM to conduct well.  He, and I at his suggestion, 
used an electrophoresis power supply to produce up to 2000 v at 200 ma max.  
This high voltage arcing turned the dark soup completely clear after a while, 
and produced PPMs of 100 or 200 and higher, which we all thought was pretty 
cool.  And it worked very well.  No colds, flu, flu shots, deodorant, and many 
other great uses for it.

My wife and I continued to take this daily since then, but lately have noticed 
some grayness around her face.  She has always taken quite a bit more than I 
have.  A while ago Marshall pointed out that I was most likely making silver 
nitrate, and that would not be a good thing to take, so I have stopped making 
that, and am now making the 10-20 PPM EIS with no arcing and with low voltage 
and current.  Am also making silver citrate for spraying, which seems to work 
great.

So ... we decided to follow the suggestions for getting rid of the gray color. 
 My wife stopped taking EIS a couple of weeks ago, and started taking the 
vitamins and other supplements suggested in several places out there to get 
rid of the gray color.

Almost immediately she became ill with diarrhea.  Couldn't keep anything in 
her, and had no appetite for anything anyway.  After a week of this, with no 
sign of it getting better, we took her to the local ER, since our Dr is out of 
town for the week.  There we talked to an amazingly open-minded and 
understanding AMA-type Dr who was very interested in the EIS concept, and was 
not nasty, sarcastic, or dismissive of it like most of them are.

His take on it, after doing blood and other tests, is that her condition is 
just like what happens when someone is on an antibiotic for a long time, then 
suddenly stops, and the beneficial flora in the gut are all gone, and 
therefore some other infection takes over.  The Dr believed that she could 
have any one or more of several infections going on that are causing her 
diarrhea, and he was particularly concerned that C. Difficile might be one of 
them, so he tested explicitly for that as well as others.

The C. Difficile test came back negative, thank goodness.  The other test 
results will be available over the next few days.

She generally takes pro-biotics, but hasn't been taking 

Re: CSIntroduction

2014-03-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Ann.  Welcome to our group.  You'll learn a lot here, from knowledgeable and 
experienced people.  Jump in with any questions that you might have.
MA
 





 From: Ann Brandenberger mrs_bber...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:48 PM
Subject: CSIntroduction
 


Hello,
My name is Ann and I am 76 years old. I believe in the ability of silver to 
kill every sort of pathogen,; molds,  funguses, viruses,  and gram negative 
bacteria.  I want to learn more about it. Thank you, 
Ann
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Re: CSTransp orted

2014-03-29 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Uh-oh -- spam!!!
 




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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: CSTransp orted
 


I certainly didnt authorize this Professor said Percy puffing himself up 
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Re: CSneed help

2014-03-31 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Kathy -- you might consider joining the BioMagnet group and availing yourself 
of the wisdom of it's owner, Peter Kulish.  BioMagnets are phenomenal in 
healing, and reversing damage.  They couldn't hurt and might greatly help your 
situation.  The group address is magnetictherapyto...@yahoogroups.com
 
I am sorry for your health issues, and wish you success in healing.
MA



 From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 8:05 AM
Subject: CSneed help
 


 
Last July I had colon surgery.in hospital 7 
dayswent home3 days later in hospital again with blood clots in my 
lungs.I am on warfarin nowproblem is as I understand it.When the 
blood clots went through the leg veins, they did damage to the vein.  This 
is what I need help witheverything I've read says its 
irreversable.   Has anyone had this happen to them?  If so, what 
did you do?
Thanks so much
Kathy 

Re: CSGum infection

2014-04-05 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Deb.  I have a similar situation -- a molar is trying to die and I don't 
want it to.  There is swelling on the gum beneath the tooth (it's a lower 
molar) -- and when it was at its worst, the tooth itself ached.  I have used 
Colloidal Silver, a cold laser, a godzilla device (home-made) and Bio-Magnets.  
All of these things helped but what helped the most (it seems) was the Godzilla 
followed by application of Bio-Magnets.  What remains is a very small *bump* on 
the gum, with no drainage, and no discomfort at all.  I would be very concerned 
about that ongoing infection that's draining and damaging the gums -- these 
types of infections can cause heart damage as well.

The Godzilla is very inexpensive to make -- you just need a six-volt lantern 
battery, electric cord, a couple of copper alligator clips, and any one of a 
number of options to cover the exposed wires of the cord.  There is a yahoo 
group called microelectricitygermkiller  that you can join to see exactly how 
to do this. You apply the electricity directly to the gum itself -- I put the 
protected ends of the wires inside my mouth on either side of the gum.  
Awkward, but effective.  You treat for five minutes at a time, several times a 
day.  There is no discomfort.

Regarding magnets -- it's important that you get exactly the right kind -- 
BioMagnets are a specific brand.  Again -- there is a Yahoo group called 
magnetictherapytoday.  Members of the list can purchase the magnets at 25% off 
anytime, and right now I think they're having a 30% off sale.  You would want 
the small magnets -- about the size of a dime.  You would tape one magnet to 
your cheek directly over the gum infection, then place a second magnet over the 
tape on top of the first magnet.  Wear this constantly -- except when you're 
applying the godzilla -- even when you're sleeping.

Between the two procedures, you'll succeed in eliminating the infection.  If 
you add the procedure of Brooks' that Brickey just posted, that'll be an extra 
boost to restoring health to your gum.  Despite all of this, you may end up 
losing the tooth anyway.  When they die, they die -- but I've kept mine going 
for an additional four years this way.

I'm sorry that you lost your job.  If you can't afford the magnets, I'll be 
happy to send you two.
MA   





On 4 Apr 2014 at 15:19, Deborah Gerard wrote about :
Subject : CSGum infection

 Greeting's everyone,
 
 I have been battling a pain free gum infection. It did not start high up
 on the gum but is climbing and destroying my gum tissue. I have tried
 everything..taking CS all during the day...3% hydrogen peroxide..DMSO
 mixed with CS...Oregano oil..I push on the pocket and drain it several
 times a day and the color is light green. It is grossing me out. I have no
 insurance and until I lost my job and year and half ago I kept up on
 dental visits and cleanings. I am 62 and am wondering if age plays into
 it. I have even injected the peroxide into the infected area...then
 switched to the cs with DMSO..it's not getting worse but it is not going
 away. Going on the third week now...will it stop eventually? Any input
 would be appreciated,
 
 Thanks Deb 

Re: CSUNSUBSCRIBE ME

2014-05-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Annette -- no one can unsubscribe you.  You have to unsubscribe yourself.  
There are instructions for doing so at the bottom of every email that comes 
through the list.
MA


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Re: CS>Dosage amount ??

2016-06-03 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you sir.  Can always count on you for the low-down.  :-D 

On Friday, June 3, 2016 4:47 AM, Ode Coyote <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 Better than anything and FAST. 
Put TUMS to shame at a hundredth the cost.
 It's that "Soda Water" the old timers used, mistaken for soda pop these days.
 "Soda Crackers" settle a tummy as well.

Ode

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM, MaryAnn Helland <marmar...@bellsouth.net> 
wrote:

Hi Ode.  Wondering if that (baking soda in water) would work for heartburn/acid 
indigestion. 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:23 AM, Ode Coyote <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me

1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup waterDrank it down, waited 
a few minutes.Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.Repeat now and 
then. What that does:The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon 
dioxide gas [BURP ! ]The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for 
more water to flush the excess salt out with.Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the 
thirstinstant absorption and little or no stomach acid to make "Silver 
Chloride"

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Tam <tamgray1...@gmail.com> wrote:


What would be a good dose amount for a viral or bacterial(not sure which) co=
ld that is aching my whole body, causing drainage, flim on chest, and sinus i=
ssues??
- Tam

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Re: CS>Dosage amount ??

2016-06-03 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Seriously, Ron?  Wow.  My mom will use nothing else.  :-(   How did you get 
your tongue un-black?MA 

On Friday, June 3, 2016 8:03 AM, Ron <ron@gmail.com> wrote:
 

  Yes and do beware of "antacids" like Rolaids & especially that pink stuff 
Pepto Bismol that has so much aluminum in it that it turned my tongue black. No 
Joke.
 
 On 6/3/2016 2:47 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
  
   Better than anything and FAST. 
 Put TUMS to shame at a hundredth the cost.
  It's that "Soda Water" the old timers used, mistaken for soda pop these days.
   "Soda Crackers" settle a tummy as well.
 
  Ode
  
 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM, MaryAnn Helland <marmar...@bellsouth.net> 
wrote:
 
  Hi Ode.  Wondering if that (baking soda in water) would work for 
heartburn/acid indigestion. 
 
 On Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:23 AM, Ode Coyote 
<silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
 
https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me
 
 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup water Drank it down, 
waited a few minutes. Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup. Repeat 
now and then.   What that does: The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt 
and carbon dioxide gas [BURP ! ] The salt absorbs into the blood making it 
"thirsty" for more water to flush the excess salt out with. Add "Silver Water" 
to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little or no stomach acid to 
make "Silver  Chloride" 
  
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Tam <tamgray1...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 What would be a good dose amount for a viral or bacterial(not sure which)  co=
 ld that is aching my whole body, causing drainage, flim on chest, and sinus i=
 ssues??
 - Tam
 
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Re: CS>Dosage amount ??

2016-06-02 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Ode.  Wondering if that (baking soda in water) would work for heartburn/acid 
indigestion. 

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:23 AM, Ode Coyote  
wrote:
 

 https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me

1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup waterDrank it down, waited 
a few minutes.Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.Repeat now and 
then. What that does:The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon 
dioxide gas [BURP ! ]The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for 
more water to flush the excess salt out with.Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the 
thirstinstant absorption and little or no stomach acid to make "Silver 
Chloride"

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Tam  wrote:


What would be a good dose amount for a viral or bacterial(not sure which) co=
ld that is aching my whole body, causing drainage, flim on chest, and sinus i=
ssues??
- Tam

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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

2016-06-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you for the information Dave -- I've been vacillating... 
:-) 

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:15 PM, Da Darrin <ddarrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 I bought a 12" skillet from the ad on tv and tried the melted cheese first and 
was amazed that it swished around just as advertised. Next I fried two eggs and 
tried the flip with the pan handle and I won't try that again as the eggs ended 
up on the stove top but the pan did as it is advertised. My wife liked it so 
well that she ordered two square pans with glass lids and is very happy with 
them.Dave
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 6:36 AM, MaryAnn Helland <marmar...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Has anyone used the new copper ceramic pans being advertised on television?MA 

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:30 AM, Ode Coyote <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 My Mom gave me a 12"  Slip Stone pan about a year ago and it still does a 
great job. Seems indestructable.
 The Orgreenic pan I have was good for about 2 weeks than reverted to basically 
the same as cast iron.

ode

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Teri Kavakos <fireside...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Ceramic is good not totally non sick but use butter and it will do the job 
just fine.
 
 Teri
 
 On 5/31/2016 8:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
  
  Hey All 
  I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its greatBUT 
for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of butter doesn't help.
  
  So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If so, 
which one?? 
  Thanks Paul
  
   
 
 



   



  

Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

2016-06-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Has anyone used the new copper ceramic pans being advertised on television?MA 

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:30 AM, Ode Coyote  
wrote:
 

 My Mom gave me a 12"  Slip Stone pan about a year ago and it still does a 
great job. Seems indestructable.
 The Orgreenic pan I have was good for about 2 weeks than reverted to basically 
the same as cast iron.

ode

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Teri Kavakos  wrote:

  Ceramic is good not totally non sick but use butter and it will do the job 
just fine.
 
 Teri
 
 On 5/31/2016 8:46 AM, Paul Steel wrote:
  
  Hey All 
  I recently bought mercola's cookware and for certain things its greatBUT 
for making eggs its terrible...Even putting in a ton of butter doesn't help.
  
  So my question is- Is there such a thing as a good nonstick pan?...If so, 
which one?? 
  Thanks Paul
  
   
 
 



  

Re: CS>Just a datapoint

2016-01-25 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Testing. 

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:36 PM, Jerry Durand 
 wrote:
 

   Wiped, so probably messed up the measurement.  Should have air dried them 
before and after to get it to come out right.  Being in a hurry (tax filing 
time for the business) I didn't think of that.
 
 On 01/12/2016 11:35 AM, John Popelish wrote:
  

 Did you just air dry the electrodes, 
 before weighing, 
 or did you wipe them? 
 
 Given that a pint of water is about 500 grams, 0.011 gram of silver in that 
amount of water implies an upper limit concentration of roughly 22 parts per 
million, by weight. 
 
 
 
 -- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886

 

  

Re: CS> No Post

2016-03-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Almost everything.  I got unsubbed somehow -- and was trying to get back on the 
group for almost two years before I finally got it done.  It did me no good to 
try to email Mike, either.  I don't know what the problems are -- but they're 
huge.MA 

On Saturday, March 19, 2016 1:59 PM, Ron  wrote:
 

  The question is: What was Phil's last post. I don't think I got it. And as I 
keep saying the Archives are screwed up so what else is?
 
 On 3/19/2016 11:53 AM, Diane Mackey wrote:
  
 I use gmail too and I don't see my posts.  I only see replies to my posts. 
 On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Ron  wrote:
 
  The 'club' is getting bigger. Your post is not in the archives either. A few 
of the recent archive posts have been "put" there and are not  entirely legit 
transfers. One can tell by the dates.
 
 On 3/19/2016 9:46 AM, Phil Morrison wrote:
  
  
  My last post is missing from Silver List. 
 
  How can folks be responding to a missing post?
  
 
 
 
   
  
   
 
  
  
  
 
 

  

Re: CS>Had liver scan today and bad news

2016-08-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Debbie -- my brother was found to have a mass on one of his kidneys. It was 
discovered when they did a cat-scan following an automobile accident.  It was 
determined to be cancer -- and they simply removed the kidney.  It was almost 
no big deal.  He did not have to have follow-up chemo or radiation.  Hopefully, 
they won't find cancer in yours -- but if they do, do not be afraid.  This is 
pretty easily resolved.MA

On Monday, August 1, 2016 2:20 PM, Sandee George  wrote:
 

 Good luck and many blessings !!!    Remember you can kill it with your brain 
positive energy !    They call it refusal to believe 
Sandee
An attitude of gratitude is everything!!!
san...@spiceisle.com
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products
Topical Gel & Eye Drops

On 1 Aug 2016, at 2:19 pm, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

Okay I no sooner left the place that I had my liver scan for the Hep C 
diagnosis and get home and the doc calls and they found a 2.5 centimeter solid 
mass on my left kidney.
Now they want to get me in asap for a MRI...I am assuming when they say "solid" 
that means cancer?

Thanks for all the replies,

Debbie


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Re: CS>Re: craig taylor

2017-02-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Ah -- ok.  :-)  But really, all you need are the really brainy ones on here 
anyway!!  :-DMA 

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:27 AM, okierspike <okiersp...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 Collective brain power.  5000 would be beter than say 5.  I was just wondering 
about the scope of the list. Thanks 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: MaryAnn Helland 
<marmar...@bellsouth.net> Date: 2/23/17 7:16 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re: craig taylor 
Yes -- it goes to everyone on the list.  What difference does it make how many 
people are on the list?MA 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:20 AM, okierspike <okiersp...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 Do all emails go to everyone on the list?  And how many people are on the 
list? 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Ode Coyote <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> 
Date: 2/22/17 10:52 AM (GMT-06:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: 
CS>Re: craig taylor 
EIS is Electrically Isolated Silver..more accurate than ionic or colloidal 
silver as some of each wind up in there.
ode

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:30 AM, okierspike <okiersp...@gmail.com> wrote:


What does EIS stand for?  In reference to cut yourself wound care.

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Neville <one.red...@hotmail.com> Date: 
2/21/17 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: New guy 
day 1 
Cut yourself...Yes, clean the wound with EIS, dry the area, try to close the 
wound and apply a wet bandage (wet with EIS) and cover the wound, then leave 
the bandage on for a few days (3 or 4 days), wetting the bandage several times 
each day (wet the bandage as often as you want).  EIS will generate stem cells 
to re-generate new tissue.
N.
From: Jean Baugh <oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2017 8:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>New guy day 1 Hi,
Injecting cattle in what way?  SQ, IM or IV?  
I was told West Nile virus in a horse was cured by CS by IV.
I was also told by another person that if you cut yourself and immediately soak 
the cut with CS, your body will generate stem cells to heal.
Jean
**
On 2/21/2017 11:50 AM, okierspike wrote: I'm interested in injecting cattle 
with cs.  I know what the fda has to say about it  

 




   

   

Re: CS>Re: craig taylor

2017-02-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Yes -- it goes to everyone on the list.  What difference does it make how many 
people are on the list?MA 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:20 AM, okierspike  
wrote:
 

 Do all emails go to everyone on the list?  And how many people are on the 
list? 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Ode Coyote  
Date: 2/22/17 10:52 AM (GMT-06:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: 
CS>Re: craig taylor 
EIS is Electrically Isolated Silver..more accurate than ionic or colloidal 
silver as some of each wind up in there.
ode

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:30 AM, okierspike  wrote:


What does EIS stand for?  In reference to cut yourself wound care.

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Neville  Date: 
2/21/17 8:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: New guy 
day 1 
Cut yourself...Yes, clean the wound with EIS, dry the area, try to close the 
wound and apply a wet bandage (wet with EIS) and cover the wound, then leave 
the bandage on for a few days (3 or 4 days), wetting the bandage several times 
each day (wet the bandage as often as you want).  EIS will generate stem cells 
to re-generate new tissue.
N.
From: Jean Baugh 
Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2017 8:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>New guy day 1 Hi,
Injecting cattle in what way?  SQ, IM or IV?  
I was told West Nile virus in a horse was cured by CS by IV.
I was also told by another person that if you cut yourself and immediately soak 
the cut with CS, your body will generate stem cells to heal.
Jean
**
On 2/21/2017 11:50 AM, okierspike wrote: I'm interested in injecting cattle 
with cs.  I know what the fda has to say about it  

 




   

Re: CS>Anaplasmosis

2017-02-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Quote:  "No I don’t know but an anecdotal arthritis remedy is a copper 
bracelet.  This tells me two things; arthritis is an infection and you can 
treat it topically.  Do I believe this?  Yes.
Omigosh -- really?  I have spinal arthritis -- it's ruining my life.  How would 
I go about treating it topically  Thanks.MA
 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:40 PM, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:
 

 Hi,
No I don’t know but an anecdotal arthritis remedy is a copper bracelet.  This 
tells me two things; arthritis is an infection and you can treat it topically.  
Do I believe this?  Yes.
A relative was sent to the hospital with a raging fever.  She was put on heavy 
antibiotics and when she came home, she no longer had rheumatoid arthritis.
I was standing in line in a home depot store, holding an aluminum screen 
between my fingers (no cart), and suddenly I tasted aluminum in my mouth.  That 
was a surprise.
Unrelated things but interesting.
My water lines are copper but don’t they use PVC pipes now?
Jean
From:  PT Ferrance 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 3:24 PM
To:  "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject:  Re: CS>Anaplasmosis
Resent-From:  
Resent-Date:  Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:24:53 -0800 (PST)

Do you know if copper also works this way for people?Thanks.PT
 


  From: Jean Baugh 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:03 PM
 Subject: CS>Anaplasmosis
  
Hi Craig,
Just my opinion but that would not be the way I’d approach that problem.  My 
way would be orally or IV, probably IV.
We lost a huge bull to anaplasmosis, and the vet explained it was a tick 
problem and he suggested we start offering high copper minerals.  Since copper 
is antibacterial, guess that is how it works.  We never lost another animal.

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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2017 #6

2017-02-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Stop what? 

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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2017 #18

2017-02-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
You have to send your unsubscribe request to the address shown below -- not to 
the list itself.MA 

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Re: CS>Salt (Celtic salt as opposed to Himalayan salt

2016-12-09 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Jean -- where do you buy your Celtic salt? 

On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:56 PM, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:
 

 Hi,
I’ve tried Celtic sea salt and Himalayan salt, side by side.  There is no 
comparison; hands down the Celtic Sea Salt (coarse gray), was the taste test 
winner.  I use a coffee grinder to grind the coarse gray Celtic sea salt but 
you can buy it already ground and in shakers.
It can be bought in 10 lb bags from the people who collected this salt.   While 
giving many samples away and having many people asking for more free samples, 
still have 1/3 of the original purchase.  The only way to help some people who 
love freebies, is to tell them and in some cases, write them too, the address 
and website of the Celtic Sea Salt.  It took quite awhile to wean one person 
but he finally bought the Celtic Sea Salt in bulk.
My relative brought me a gift of Himalayan salt and ended up taking three times 
that amount of Celtic Sea Salt, back with her.  I still wonder if that was a 
con because she knew I had a stash of Celtic Sea Salt.  I even gave her the 
Himalayan salt back for CSS is the only one for me.
Jean

From:  Lena Guyot 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 8:46 PM
To:  
Subject:  Re: CS>Salt
Resent-From:  
Resent-Date:  Wed, 7 Dec 2016 18:46:23 -0800 (PST)

This is very true, but for those of us taking a high dose,(in my case 13g 
daily) it can get expensive, along with all the other supplements we take. L 
On Dec 7, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Smitty wrote:

Most health food stores carrygood quality sea salt
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:

Hi Tia,
If you're speaking of Himalayan salt, (the most commonly recommended and 
favored in the salt and C protocol), Swanson's Vitamins sells nice big reusable 
plastic jars of it, of excellent quality. When I'd accumulated enough of them, 
I switched to a cheaper and equally high quality source: San Francisco Salt 
Company. If you're making your own capsules, I recommend the finest grind of 
the pink sherpa salt, as a (00) capsule of it is close to 1 g. I fill up my old 
Swanson's jars with them! SFSalt Co ships in many different bulk sizes and the 
price is a great deal.
Be well,Léna
On Dec 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Teri Kavakos wrote:

I bought a salt from someone years ago that they made with all the things that 
you need and I'm about out.   I wondered if anyone also ordered this as I 
believe it was someone on this list that recommended  this highly.  I do recall 
there was a 5 lb minimum to buy it.  Hope someone here can guide me to buy this 
again.


TIA

Teri Kavakos


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2017 #3

2017-01-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
No one can unsubscribe you Barb -- you have to unsubscribe yourself.
The instructions for doing so are at the bottom of your post.MA 

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Re: CS>Silver List - Farewell

2017-06-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I'm so sorry to see this happening.MA 

On Friday, June 23, 2017 5:48 PM, Jason Eaton  
wrote:
 

 Greetings, everyone:

With our fearless leader MIA and no clear consensus of what the group 
wants to do, I'm going to bid you all a farewell!  Over the years, this 
has been one of my favorite lists to be a part of.

I am going to be reviving my old silver yahoo list, only because there 
are still about 450 members.  It's been quiet on that list for a long 
time, mainly because most of what needed to be said about silver has 
been said.

However, that is changing.  While the Eskimo silver list has been pretty 
sleepy, researchers out there have continued to pioneer new methods.  
There is also quite a bit of new research in the nano particle world.

If anyone has an interest in more advanced topics and wishes to join, 
you would be welcome.  On this list, however, topics off health and 
silver are not tolerated at all.  A zero tolerance policy means I simply 
remove the member, rather than debate the matter! :)

This newly revised list will be great for people who:

...want to know how to make a product very similar to Mesosilver at home.

want to know how to encapsulate silver ions for transport into the body.

want to know how to make a 100+ PPM particulate silver colloid using 
the chemistry method.

want to know how to make a 50 PPM electrically isolated ionic silver 
solution (the "glass ceiling" of 24-25 PPM of silver ions in solution 
has been broken.  It turns out, that was a false glass ceiling).

...want to study the potential toxic effects of silver.  My list has 
always looked at both sides of all of the story.  A select few warned 
people that EIS CAN cause argyria, even as we were chastised for doing 
so.  We really need to look at the cytotoxicity of silver colloids as 
more and more people on the "cutting edge" are creating higher and 
higher parts per million colloids.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/silvermedicine/info

I'm not yet ready to start publishing formulations and methods, but I'm 
getting closer!  As always, the project is about a collaboration between 
like minded individuals, for the benefit of everyone.

I wish you well!

~Jason


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CS>Hummingbirds

2017-05-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I've been reading a lot recently about sick Hummingbirds -- mostly from 
drinking foul water from feeders.  So I've been wondering if it would help -- 
or not -- to put a teaspoon of CS in the feeder.  ???  Or more?  Or less?  Or 
offer a separate feeder of CS?
Any thoughts?MA

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2017 #60

2017-05-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
John -- there is no one who can do this for you.  You have to unsubscribe 
yourself -- much like you subscribed in the first place.  At the bottom of this 
reply, there *should* be instructions on how to do this.MA 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:15 AM, John FREESE  wrote:
 

  please unsubscribe me. this is my 10th time trying to do so.
From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:12 AMTo: 
silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2017 #60


   

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2017 #60

2017-05-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Well -- the instructions were not there.  Does anyone know the web addy to 
unsubscribe?MA 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:50 AM, MaryAnn Helland <marmar...@bellsouth.net> 
wrote:
 

 John -- there is no one who can do this for you.  You have to unsubscribe 
yourself -- much like you subscribed in the first place.  At the bottom of this 
reply, there *should* be instructions on how to do this.MA 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:15 AM, John FREESE <jrf...@cox.net> wrote:
 

  please unsubscribe me. this is my 10th time trying to do so.
From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:12 AMTo: 
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Re: CS>Hummingbirds

2017-05-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hm -- now to find a "bird guy"MA 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 11:27 AM, james-osbourne : holmes II 
<gooogleis...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 It depends on their digestive flora.  Better to check with a bird guy before 
trying that.  
James
james-osbourne, house of Holmes
American State Nationala/k/a: Red Pill Media

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:48 AM, MaryAnn Helland <marmar...@bellsouth.net> 
wrote:

I've been reading a lot recently about sick Hummingbirds -- mostly from 
drinking foul water from feeders.  So I've been wondering if it would help -- 
or not -- to put a teaspoon of CS in the feeder.  ???  Or more?  Or less?  Or 
offer a separate feeder of CS?
Any thoughts?MA



   

Re: CS>Hummingbirds

2017-05-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I know why they get sick -- and I know to keep the feeders clean, etc.  But 
some people do not -- and I thought maybe to help those birds that got sick 
elsewhere.  And to keep my own even cleaner.
There's probably no problem finding bird people who know about Hummingbirds -- 
but how many of them know about CS?
Guess I'll just let it go.  Thanks to all who responded.MA 

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:17 PM, Rusty <ru...@peacefulwaters.net> wrote:
 

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especially in the hot weather fungus begins to grow.  When you keep your feeder 
clean and change the nectar regularly there shouldn’t be a problem.  Rusty      
From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: May 23, 2017 8:49 AM
To: Silver-List
Subject: CS>Hummingbirds  I've been reading a lot recently about sick 
Hummingbirds -- mostly from drinking foul water from feeders.  So I've been 
wondering if it would help -- or not -- to put a teaspoon of CS in the feeder.  
???  Or more?  Or less?  Or offer a separate feeder of CS?  Any thoughts?MA

   

Re: CS>New member info

2017-06-07 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Shelby.  Welcome.  Yahoo groups have become impossible to maintain.  :-(MA 

On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 10:51 AM, Shelby  wrote:
 

 Hello,  I 
had a request to introduce myself. I am a special education teacher in Georgia. 
I have been using and making CS for 10 years using a Silver Puppy. I just like 
to be connected to people that share this interest. I was part of the Yahoo 
group for a long time, however, the group fell apart.  Shelby 


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Re: CS>Refrigeration; harmful or not?

2018-01-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I never heard there was a problem in shaking CS.  In fact, if you purchase CS 
from somewhere where it needs to be shipped to you, it's gonna get a lot of 
shaking!  What's the theory behind no shaking?MA 

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:56 PM, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:
 

 Hi,
I know you should not expose CS to the sun, shaking or heat but I have no clue 
about keeping it in the refrigerator.
Does anyone know the answer to this?
Thank you,
Jean



   

Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2018 #10

2018-02-10 Thread MaryAnn Helland
I don't believe anyone is monitoring this list to do that.MA 

On Friday, February 9, 2018 11:42 PM, Marlys  wrote:
 

 Please 
drop Marlys Isaacson from your list (patriot2...@cox.net) as she is deceased.  
From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 9:04 PM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2018 #10    

   

Re: CS>Re: CS/blood electrification

2018-08-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Where can I learn more about this, Phil?
 

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:42 PM, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:
 

 
Blood electrification operates on a periodic square wave platform.
Rivitive and the like operate on a periodic sine wave 
function.  

These are totally different waveforms ... no comparison.  

The square wave restores the blood colloidal system, separates sticky cells and 
breaks up agglomerates, creating "immortal" blood. 

Three cheers for Bob Beck. 




   

Re: CS>Re: CS/blood electrification

2018-08-02 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you Phil -- I will look for the videos.MA 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:17 PM, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:
 

 
@MaryAnn
FYI ... references

Bob Beck still keeps a good web site.
Also Google Bob Beck with specific app for long lists of references.
But I found Bob Beck youtube videos my best source of information.  

Phil



   

Re: CS>zapper address

2018-07-08 Thread MaryAnn Helland
:-D 

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 4:26 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
 

 I have stardust in me...

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Ron  wrote:

  Yeah but yours don't have 'stardust' in 'em.
 Ron ;-)
 
 On 7/7/2018 8:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
  
 I made several using Hulda Clark's original concept, a 9 volt square wave 
oscillator operating at about 30KHz.  You can look up a simple schematic design 
using a 555 timer and a few resistors and capacitors.  I used hand held 
electrodes, basically pieces of copper tubing.  I have had good results with 
this for several conditions, including prostatitis, vaginitis, shingles,  and 
mononucleosis ("mono"). 
 On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Harsha Godavari  wrote:
 
  Thanks for the information. Here is a URL for Wesley's book:
  
  
  BTW I have one of the earlier zappers but did not find it very effective. The 
current price of the terminator-2  is close $200.00 in Canuck money and that's 
a bit pricey for joe_sixpack :-)

  - Original Message -
 From: Shirley Reed 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:02:49 -0600 (MDT)
 Subject: CS>zapper address
  
   The website is http://www.worldwithoutpara sites.com  and the one I prefer 
is the Terminator 2.   Mr. Croft charges  134.00 dollars for that model, but he 
tells where to get his simplest version for 35 or so dollars.  Everyone can get 
a free copy of a  very short book published in 1749 by John Wesley, founder of 
the Methodist religion, telling things he saw with his own eyes regarding the 
use of primitive equipment.  The first 30 or so pages tell about their 
equipment.  If I could understand it I would try to use it, but I could study 
it for a month and still might not understand it.  Around  page 40 he starts 
telling the experiences.  He gives dates, places,name of patient, exactly what 
was wrong, what the treatment was, and gives the outcome.  He founded 2 to 4 
free clinics for the poor in London depending on th source of the info.  The 
name of the book is  Desideratum.  It means "necessary thing" in Latin.  It's 
in the public domain so you can get a free copy here and there. Or at 
abebooks.com  you can get a facsimile.  for about 8 dollars.  It's in 
Shakespear's english so be prepared.  As for the names of the illnesses, just 
ask for the definition and it will take you to an archaic medical dictionary 
and give the modern day equivaltent.   Only Jesus did better, imho. 
   
 
  
  
 
 



   

Re: CS>osteoarthritis

2018-07-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Can you please share the website for the zapper -- and identify which one, as 
requested above?  Thanks.MA 

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:12 AM, david moskovits 
 wrote:
 

  #yiv5269616916 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Do you think this would help 
with MS? how long and where do you apply? thanks From: Shirley Reed 

Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>osteoarthritis    Silver seems to be good for nearly everything.  
But a Don Croft zapper has taken down the osteoarthritis in my hands for  20 
years now.  No pain, no disfigurement of the hands and fingers, no heat or 
redness for 20 years.  No meds either.  And 9 volt batteries last for 60 or  70 
hours or so and are 2 for a dollar at the dollar store.  Don't know about fibro 
but suspect it will do the same for it.  My son's acne was gone in 3 days.  
Extreme fatigue on my part took a couple of weeks to greatly resolve and longer 
to be completely gone.  

   

Re: CS>zapper application

2018-07-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Shirley -- what issue are you addressing by applying the zapper this way?  
Thanks.MA 

On Friday, July 6, 2018 8:56 AM, david moskovits  
wrote:
 

  #yiv7535008373 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}HiHow long do you leave it 
on? thanks From: Shirley Reed 
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 7:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>zapper application  I cut off the top 5 or 6 inches of a black 
sport sock and put my leg through it up to about my knee.  Then just put the 
zapper inside, turn it on and  let 'er rip.

   

Re: CS>osteoarthritis

2018-07-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Thank you Elizabeth!!MA 

On Friday, July 6, 2018 8:31 AM, Elizabeth Williams  
wrote:
 

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Bodhi would talk about 
MaryAnn.https://energyhealersteve.com/the-terminator-t2-zapper/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8ZycycqK3AIVj8DACh2G8AWWEAAYASAAEgIrl_D_BwE

| The Terminator Zapper By Don Croft | Energy Healing ...The Best-Selling 
Zapper in the World! The Don Croft Terminator Zapper is the best-selling Hulda 
Clark zapper on the market and has been for a number of 
years.energyhealersteve.com |


From: MaryAnn Helland 
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 7:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>osteoarthritis Can you please share the website for the zapper 
-- and identify which one, as requested above?  Thanks.MA

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:12 AM, david moskovits  
wrote:


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{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3746570769 Do you think this would help with 
MS? how long and where do you apply? thanks From: Shirley Reed 

Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>osteoarthritis   Silver seems to be good for nearly everything.  
But a Don Croft zapper has taken down the osteoarthritis in my hands for  20 
years now.  No pain, no disfigurement of the hands and fingers, no heat or 
redness for 20 years.  No meds either.  And 9 volt batteries last for 60 or  70 
hours or so and are 2 for a dollar at the dollar store.  Don't know about fibro 
but suspect it will do the same for it.  My son's acne was gone in 3 days.  
Extreme fatigue on my part took a couple of weeks to greatly resolve and longer 
to be completely gone.  



   

CS>Re:

2018-10-29 Thread Maryann Helland
http://gift.sabrinafernandes.com
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Re: CS>Does anyone know this product?

2019-01-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Not that I know of.  And your question makes me so sad because the Silver-List 
used to be a happenin' place.  :-(
On Friday, January 4, 2019, 12:35:54 PM CST, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi MA,
I understand and thank you for this information.
Do they have an EIS list that is better than the Colloidal Silver list?
Thank you,
Jean
*

On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:12 AM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
 Jean -- EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver, another (and some think a 
more appropriate) name for Colloidal Silver.MA
On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 9:17:40 PM CST, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi PT,
What is EIS?
Thank you,
Jean
**

On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:22 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
Hi,  I make lotions and recently it occurred to me to use EIS as part of the 
water part of the lotion.Then a friend recommended this product...  
https://lotioncrafter.com/collections/preservatives/products/silverion-2400-tinosan-sdc
I have never heard of mixing citric acid and EIS.  Does anyone know of a down 
side?Thanks.PT


  

  

Re: CS>Does anyone know this product?

2019-01-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Jean -- EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver, another (and some think a 
more appropriate) name for Colloidal Silver.MA
On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 9:17:40 PM CST, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi PT,
What is EIS?
Thank you,
Jean
**

On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:22 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
Hi,  I make lotions and recently it occurred to me to use EIS as part of the 
water part of the lotion.Then a friend recommended this product...  
https://lotioncrafter.com/collections/preservatives/products/silverion-2400-tinosan-sdc
I have never heard of mixing citric acid and EIS.  Does anyone know of a down 
side?Thanks.PT


  

CS>Could be a solution

2019-03-31 Thread Maryann Helland
My favourite one http://world.alaskajeeptour.com 
<http://world.alaskajeeptour.com/> 

 

 

Maryann Helland

 



Re: CS>Atten: Ode

2019-03-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Thanks Ode -- I ordered the gel kit!!MA
On Monday, March 4, 2019, 5:19:06 AM CST, Ode Coyote 
 wrote:  
 
 WWW.silverpuppy.comhttps://silverpuppy.com/product/products/gel-kit

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:28 PM MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

Hi Ode.  What's your website name, please?  I'm looking for cream or ointment 
made with CS -- seems to me you have that on your website -- yes?MA
  

CS>Atten: Ode

2019-03-03 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi Ode.  What's your website name, please?  I'm looking for cream or ointment 
made with CS -- seems to me you have that on your website -- yes?MA

Re: CS>Puzzled

2019-06-05 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Jean -- take a paper towel and wipe out the inside of your jar.  I found that 
there can occur a film from the silver (plating) that blocks the laser beam.  
:-)MA
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019, 12:17:54 AM CDT, Deborah Gerard 
 wrote:  
 
  Do you seed your batch? Use some from the previous batch and add to the new 
to make the brewing go faster? Do you have a warranty on your device? Hope you 
find out what the problem is...did you test your water with a TDS tester before 
you tried to make it?
On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 2:54:39 PM EDT, Jean Baugh 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,

I have a nearly new colloidal silver machine and one that is nearly worn out 
from all the many gallons it has made.  I’ve only been using the new machine 
for awhile now, merely switching it over to another glass jar when the first 
one is finished.  I used to check the laser beam but quit some time now.  
Everything is the same, water brand, machine same, glass jars same, laser light 
the same…. but suddenly yesterday, when I nonchalantly checked to see how 
strong the laser beam was, there was no beam going through either jar, even 
though the machine is automatic and set as high as it will go.  The newest 
machine seems to go through all the right motions and time, then shuts off, but 
no beam.

Does anyone have a theory as to what might be wrong?

I cranked up the old machine but it will take days to find out if it makes a 
beam.

Even if the old machine works, this will not explain the new machine.

Thank you,

Jean Baugh




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Re: CS>information

2019-11-10 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Ode sells a kit with which you can make a silver salve.MA
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 01:50:27 PM CST, PT Ferrance 
 wrote:  
 
 No mag oil... it isn't an oil anyway.  
I'm looking to make a silver salve like Tel used to make.PT
 

On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 2:25:28 PM EST, Da Darrin 
 wrote:  
 
 I don't know about a salve but you can make Mag Oil withe CS  as Mag oil isn't 
actually oil but feels like it and goes on and sinks in like aloe.Dave

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:18 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

Hi,Does anyone know how to get silver into an oil instead of water?  I want to 
make a silver salve.
Thanks.PT





Re: CS>question

2019-11-10 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Dave -- can you share more information on the Vit.C, L-Lyline and Proline 
protocol you mentioned for hardening of arteries?  My blood pressure continues 
to be mildly high, despite pretty clean arteries -- so I'm wondering if your 
combo might help.
BTW -- just saw a commercial on TV for Theraworx for muscle cramps!  Magnesium 
and Calcium works for me!MA
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 05:06:53 PM CST, Marshall 
 wrote:  
 
   Mineral imbalance, and/or dehydration.  Take a calcium/magnesium supplement 
(1,000 mg calcium 500 mg magnesium, I take the solaray brand from  Amazon), and 
99 mg of potassium daily.  Make sure you are hydrated before going to bed.
 
 If you still have them theraworx seems to help also.
 
 Marshall
 
 On 11/9/2019 11:31 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote: 
   
 With all the knowledge on this list. Can someone tell me what causes these 
excruciating cramps I get in my lower legs every night?. I do not know what 
causes them nor what to take to eliminate them Any suggestions would be 
appreciated even if it is not silver related Thank you kindly Christel   
 
   

Re: CS>Silver, Stem Cells and the work of DR Robert O Becker PHD -- a post I made to a friend of mine THIS AM

2019-10-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 As Yahoogroups is discontinuing all chat groups and deleting all files, 
photos, etc. -- is there someone who can contact Mike and let him know that 
within a week, this will all be gone?
I've heard that most groups are migrating to Groups.io. -- and that the 
transition is easy.  
Anyone
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 12:00:19 PM CDT, Sandee George 
 wrote:  
 
 You may like to investigate a company called Life Wave in my view they have 
gone a step further in bringing to us what we have forgotten with age of time - 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0TlQ0ntkIPeace, love, good health, blessings 
& hugs to you all 
Sandee
An Attitude of Gratitude is everythingoha...@juno.com & or 
sandee@spiceisle.comAlive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye 
Drops
  

Re: CS>Silver, Stem Cells and the work of DR Robert O Becker PHD -- a post I made to a friend of mine THIS AM

2019-10-21 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Great!  Thanks, Terry.MA
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 09:37:24 PM CDT, Terry Ward 
 wrote:  
 
 I see that there’s a holding site for silverlist on groups.io: 
https://groups.io/g/silverlist

On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:26 PM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
 As Yahoogroups is discontinuing all chat groups and deleting all files, 
photos, etc. -- is there someone who can contact Mike and let him know that 
within a week, this will all be gone?
I've heard that most groups are migrating to Groups.io. -- and that the 
transition is easy.  
Anyone
On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 12:00:19 PM CDT, Sandee George 
 wrote:  
 
 You may like to investigate a company called Life Wave in my view they have 
gone a step further in bringing to us what we have forgotten with age of time - 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0TlQ0ntkIPeace, love, good health, blessings 
& hugs to you all 
Sandee
An Attitude of Gratitude is everythingoha...@juno.com & or 
sandee@spiceisle.comAlive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye 
Drops
  

  

Re: CS>The Remnant Newspaper - CORONAGATE: The Truth Emerges

2020-04-08 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Sam -- I'd be interested in hearing more about your five-dollar zapper.  I'm 
not aware of an off-topic list.  Can you enlighten me about both?  :-)MA
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 10:58:45 AM CDT, Sam L.  
wrote:  
 
 I believe this is a off topic subject but that's up to Mike. I think mostly 
they are keeping the kids out of school so they don't bring it back home where 
it could spread though out the family. 
Just my opinion. I have yet to know anybody personally that has become sick 
with the virus or know someone that knows someone that has become sick with the 
virus. 
I had some type of sickness back in December that really knocked me down to the 
ground and almost underneath the ground. I was down for 5 days, I just used CS 
and a zapper and was good to go. 
I never went to the doctor so really do not know what it was. 
It was a simple zapper that I had made years ago for about 5 dollars. I make a 
even simpler one now but maybe that should be on the off topic list. 
Sam L


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM Ron  wrote:

  Hi G,
 You bring back memories. I actually remember seeing the Great Kreskin on TV 
way back when. Entertaining.
 But I don't know what to say about your Henry Ford quote. The name does kinda 
ring a bell. Musta been some kinda conspiracy nut. Aha! I just placed him 
remembering that my father (rip) drove a Model T in his day.. Really.
 Gee! Back then we actually even had constitutional "money". I can only imagine 
what Ford might say today about Fiat "currency".
 I haven't yet digested the article you posted. Looking forward to it.
 
 Ron
 
 On 4/8/2020 5:13 AM, Gmail wrote:
  
 What we all know anyway.
 
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/4841-coronagate-the-truth-emerges
 
 
  “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking 
and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution 
before tomorrow morning."    Henry Ford  

 
 
   
 
 


-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
everything you have.   

Re: CS>In these trying times

2020-04-08 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 LOL!!  You're funny, Dave!!  MA
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 03:55:47 PM CDT, Dan Nave 
 wrote:  
 
 In these trying times, don't forget to take your meds.Lithium, antipsychotic 
medications, tranquilizers, antidepressants; whatever you need. Thank you.  

Re: CS>In these trying times

2020-04-08 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Whoops -- did a conjunctive thing there with your name -- Dan Nave = Dave.  
Sorry, Dan..MA
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 07:34:48 PM CDT, MaryAnn Helland 
 wrote:  
 
  LOL!!  You're funny, Dave!!  MA
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 03:55:47 PM CDT, Dan Nave 
 wrote:  
 
 In these trying times, don't forget to take your meds.Lithium, antipsychotic 
medications, tranquilizers, antidepressants; whatever you need. Thank you.

Re: CS>The Remnant Newspaper - CORONAGATE: The Truth Emerges

2020-04-09 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Hi Sam.  I actually have a Godzilla, which I bought from a guy who made them 
to sell.  I also have a rudimentary one that I concocted from a six-volt 
battery.  I use them quite a bit.  But I'm always looking for a better unit, or 
a good back-up unit.  The six-volt battery one is awkward to use.
Thank you for the videos -- I will watch them!!!  :-DMA
On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 01:30:44 AM CDT, Sam L.  
wrote:  
 
 Hi MaryAnnA ZAPPER is a electro-medical in theory. Is being use used in many 
Countries now mostly for sport injures. It can also disable virus and bacteria 
from reproducing  helping the immune system take care of the rest.This has 
never failed me except once when I had a really bad sinus infection. And did 
not understand the sinus goes from nose to ear. Here are two short, not perfect 
but good videos on it for a home made product. The cost is a bit more now, as I 
said was made many years ago.I hope this helps you, if you have a pacemaker, do 
not use. 
The yahoo groups really do not exist anymore as they were, its just email  
server similar to the silver list. 

This has helped me tremendously in both health and injures. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msceFdHittIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldchw4mJJ0Y
  

Sam L.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 10:07 PM MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

 Sam -- I'd be interested in hearing more about your five-dollar zapper.  I'm 
not aware of an off-topic list.  Can you enlighten me about both?  :-)MA
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 10:58:45 AM CDT, Sam L.  
wrote:  
 
 I believe this is a off topic subject but that's up to Mike. I think mostly 
they are keeping the kids out of school so they don't bring it back home where 
it could spread though out the family. 
Just my opinion. I have yet to know anybody personally that has become sick 
with the virus or know someone that knows someone that has become sick with the 
virus. 
I had some type of sickness back in December that really knocked me down to the 
ground and almost underneath the ground. I was down for 5 days, I just used CS 
and a zapper and was good to go. 
I never went to the doctor so really do not know what it was. 
It was a simple zapper that I had made years ago for about 5 dollars. I make a 
even simpler one now but maybe that should be on the off topic list. 
Sam L


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:15 PM Ron  wrote:

  Hi G,
 You bring back memories. I actually remember seeing the Great Kreskin on TV 
way back when. Entertaining.
 But I don't know what to say about your Henry Ford quote. The name does kinda 
ring a bell. Musta been some kinda conspiracy nut. Aha! I just placed him 
remembering that my father (rip) drove a Model T in his day.. Really.
 Gee! Back then we actually even had constitutional "money". I can only imagine 
what Ford might say today about Fiat "currency".
 I haven't yet digested the article you posted. Looking forward to it.
 
 Ron
 
 On 4/8/2020 5:13 AM, Gmail wrote:
  
 What we all know anyway.
 
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/4841-coronagate-the-truth-emerges
 
 
  “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking 
and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution 
before tomorrow morning."    Henry Ford  

 
 
   
 
 


-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
everything you have.   


-- 
A government big enough to give you everything you want will take
everything you have.   

Re: CS>Answering CS disinfo correctly.

2020-04-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Does anyone have any info regarding nebulizing CS as an antidote to Covid 
exposure?  I've been doing so twice a day since this whole mess started -- as a 
precautionary measure -- but I don't really know if CS is actually effective 
against this or any other virus.  
Any thoughts?MA
On Friday, April 3, 2020, 07:09:42 PM CDT, Sandee George  
wrote:  
 
 Simply ignore it 
Peace, love, happiness and good health be yours for 2020
Sandee 
An Attitude of Gratitude & Awareness is Everything!!!
Life Wave X39 patch -  www.lifewave.com/sandygeorge    I Buumerang -  
xandee.ibuumerang.comAlive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye 
Drops
oha...@juno.com & or san...@spiceisle.com






On Apr 3, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Stefano Leonardi  
wrote:
Hi, 
I’m fed up every time I get friends telling me how the FDA says CS turns 
everyone blue, and has no benefit whatsoever. I know we know this is bullsh*t 
but what’s the best way to reply to people sending links like this:
https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/colloidal-silver
Any decent links which debunk and dismiss this BS and show it’s safe and 
effective with proper research ? 
Many thanks 
Stefano. 
P.S. has everyone heard about the covid-19 cures such as hydroxychloroquine and 
high dose vitamin C ? 



  

Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2020 #15

2020-05-18 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Click on the *reply* option at the bottom of the previous message -- it 
happens automatically.  :-)MA
On Sunday, May 17, 2020, 12:07:40 PM CDT, Shelby  
wrote:  
 
 
How do I reply and keep the subject line of the email I am replaying to?

  

Shelby

  

From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:31 AM
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2020 #15

  

  
 



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Re: CS>Cure. Pay me 1,000 Bitcoins and I will share.

2020-03-18 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 WOWMA
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 07:16:51 PM CDT, James Osbourne Holmes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kidding; here it is:
https://future-world.com/mcatalog/stop-covid-19-now/

James Osbourne Holmesa/k/a Red Pill MediaThe American States AssemblyThe New 
Mexico  Assembly Deputy CoordinatorThe Santa Fe County  Assembly Coordinator
http://theamericanstatesassembly.net 
http://annavonreitz.com
http://signinamerica.comThis private email and any attachment(s) is covered by 
the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 25-10-2521 and is for the 
sole use of the intended recipient and contains privileged and/or confidential 
information. No monitoring of my email or other means of surveillance, 
electronic and otherwise, is permitted and I reserve all my rights, without 
recourse and without prejudice, nunc pro tunc.  I do not consent to anyone 
tampering with, altering or delaying any incoming or outgoing communication.

  

Re: CS>Coronavirus

2020-03-17 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 I certainly hope it will.  I'm relying on CS and my nebulizer to keep me 
healthy.MA
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 07:17:10 AM CDT, Neville Munn 
 wrote:  
 
  #yiv8757553419 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}OK, I've got a question.  
This Corona thing is apparently gram negative, I know it's a version of the 
Flu, just with a twist in its tail, therefore, we know our product is 
electrically positively charged, so, positive and negatives attract, so my 
question is, has anyone have any indication as to why our silver will not take 
the Corona out.  I know the Establishment will not be looking at it, for 
obvious reasons, but I can't see why our stuff would not work, in conjunction 
with a Nebulise?  This Corona is predominantly a respiratory issue.
I'm not going to go into details of my suppositions or conspiracy theories of 
which why think this thing raised its ugly head so recent.  I'm just asking a 
simple question.
I am not concerned at all about this Corona thing by the way, I have my product 
and a Nebuliser, I'm well armed because I believe our stuff would kill it.
Any opinions, good or bad, welcome of why our stuff wouldn't kill it?
N.  

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2020 #21

2020-03-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Mine is a Medisana -- purchased at Walmart.MA
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 09:28:31 PM CDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 The MY-520a is searchable as such.  
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 10:23 PM Catherine  wrote:

Please tell where I ight find A quality nebulizer to use with Silver?Thank in 
Advance

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:37 AM, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:



Maybe my YouTube video and articles will help you. Just point them here 
without explanation:https://youtu.be/kOaDBfnAzKc


I just put the info out there, and sometimes, slowly, people eventually get it. 
Sadly, most never will.




Victor
*
Victor F. Cozzetto
Wise Traditions NutritionistU.S.: 516-908-1039
Japan: 050-5539-7102www.Vitagenics.net
YouTube Channel*

On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Reid Harvey  wrote:



I have a problem that I want to get quarts of SilverPuppy EIS to friends and 
family but so many are not receptive. Like do I try to convince them or not?  
And with those who know my long-time advocacy of EIS, suggesting this to them 
would be like, "I told yah so!"  
Despite all of these I suppose I/we have got to try.  Why are we on the planet 
but to help out?
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 8:57 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

When people can't find answers, then do as I have always done, they have to 
make their own determinations and conclusions on things.  Plenty of info 
regarding silver wherever you look, plenty of info on this Corona thing 
wherever you look, just do what I do regarding anything and/or everything, then 
you will have your answer when answers are not forthcoming, for whatever reason.
Take a risk, or not to take a risk, that is the question, or should I say, 
'that's life'.  That is up to the individual, and I am an individual, I got a 
brain, so I exercise due diligence in my thinking and reasoning, when there is 
not enough to go on in the Public Domain .
I'm ready for this little "Flu", IF it wants to have a go, bring it on, give it 
your best shot, my immune system is ready and my arsenal is primed and ready to 
go.  You'll only get one shot at it though, it will be between me and you, but 
if you miss, then look out, you're outta here big time.
The Nebuliser is my fist line of defence, oh, sorry, second, my every morning 
EIS of which I have been ingesting for many years now is my first line of 
defence.  Let's get this crap over with.
N.
From: Sara Mandal-Joy 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 2:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2020 #21 On 3/17/2020 7:23 PM, 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:

Nebulizing is being suggested by Victor F. Cozzetto , and it was my 
first impulse to do so as well, but I have read others cautioning 
against nebulizing with anything in the presence of this virus, as it 
will tend to push the virus deeper??   Any thoughts?






  

Re: CS>The MY 520S

2020-03-24 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 I missed something, somewhere along the line -- what nebulizer is being 
discussed here?  Thanks.MA
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:11:35 AM CDT, Ode Coyote 
 wrote:  
 
 What Dan said...right onOde

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:31 AM Dan Nave  wrote:

Neville, you and Reid are starting to scare me...
Ultrasonic nebulizers do not heat or boil the liquid to be nebulized.
Ultrasonic nebulizers work by vibrating at a frequency that is somewhat above 
the normal sound range for hearing, hence "ultra-sonic."The ultrasonic 
vibrations must travel through a liquid for this to work, so you have to fill 
distilled water in the nebulizer up to the level where the clear plastic 
starts.  Then you fill your CS in the bottom half of the little cup and insert 
that into the unit.  There is a sealing ring that you install on top to keep it 
sealed properly.  The point of the little cup is to keep the liquid to be 
nebulized away from the vibrating part of the nebulizer so it doesn't gum it 
up.  Also, it lets you use less of the CS or whatever you are using. This 
vibrating causes tiny particles on the surface of the liquid to "jump" into the 
air, so to speak, and float in the air as a mist.  Be careful installing the 
top of the nebulizer because it is somewhat fussy...
Hope that helps.
Dan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:43 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

These little Nebulisers.
They say put water in the bottom bowl, insert medicine cup with your preferred 
medication, then turn it on.  I guess it heats the water up, but, is any of 
that water going to mix with my EIS?  Or does it just heat something up 
independently to the medication?  The old Nebuliser I have had for years 
doesn't take any water, so how do these little things work?
Yeah, I know, I'm a dumb_rse, so humour me.  The little 'manual' talks about 
heat, which I guess is the water being heated?  I don't want to dilute my EIS.  
My old one, you just put the medication in a little cup, turn it on and it's 
good to go.
N.

  

Re: CS>The MY 520S

2020-03-24 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Thank you Reid. (your first name, right?)MA
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 10:12:01 AM CDT, Reid Harvey 
 wrote:  
 
 Mary Ann,  It's the MY-520a, searchable as such.  In case someone else here 
can suggest others please do so.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 8:43 AM MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

 I missed something, somewhere along the line -- what nebulizer is being 
discussed here?  Thanks.MA
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020, 07:11:35 AM CDT, Ode Coyote 
 wrote:  
 
 What Dan said...right onOde

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:31 AM Dan Nave  wrote:

Neville, you and Reid are starting to scare me...
Ultrasonic nebulizers do not heat or boil the liquid to be nebulized.
Ultrasonic nebulizers work by vibrating at a frequency that is somewhat above 
the normal sound range for hearing, hence "ultra-sonic."The ultrasonic 
vibrations must travel through a liquid for this to work, so you have to fill 
distilled water in the nebulizer up to the level where the clear plastic 
starts.  Then you fill your CS in the bottom half of the little cup and insert 
that into the unit.  There is a sealing ring that you install on top to keep it 
sealed properly.  The point of the little cup is to keep the liquid to be 
nebulized away from the vibrating part of the nebulizer so it doesn't gum it 
up.  Also, it lets you use less of the CS or whatever you are using. This 
vibrating causes tiny particles on the surface of the liquid to "jump" into the 
air, so to speak, and float in the air as a mist.  Be careful installing the 
top of the nebulizer because it is somewhat fussy...
Hope that helps.
Dan
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:43 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

These little Nebulisers.
They say put water in the bottom bowl, insert medicine cup with your preferred 
medication, then turn it on.  I guess it heats the water up, but, is any of 
that water going to mix with my EIS?  Or does it just heat something up 
independently to the medication?  The old Nebuliser I have had for years 
doesn't take any water, so how do these little things work?
Yeah, I know, I'm a dumb_rse, so humour me.  The little 'manual' talks about 
heat, which I guess is the water being heated?  I don't want to dilute my EIS.  
My old one, you just put the medication in a little cup, turn it on and it's 
good to go.
N.

  
  

Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2020 #78

2020-10-18 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 No one can unsubscribe you -- you have to unsubscribe yourself.  The 
instructions for doing so should be at the base of your email.MAOn Sunday, 
October 18, 2020, 05:43:00 AM CDT, in-hue man  wrote:  
 
 Unsubscribe.
With many thanks to all contributers.
Best regaeds,

leo

On Sunday, October 18, 2020, hghwykd  wrote:

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Re: CS>sliver puppy

2020-09-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 He does.MA
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 11:30:03 AM CDT, Lynn Greene 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks.

> On Sep 23, 2020, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> I remember that exchange.  I believe he does live in North Carolina.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 11:50:58 AM EDT, Lynn Greene 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hello; Does anyone know Ode personally? Where he lives, for example?
>> A month ago, after an inquiry about where to send my machine for repairs, I 
>> received an email
>> from someone claiming to be Ode, telling me to send $20 American cash and my 
>> machine to 
>> North Carolina. 
>> 
>> I haven’t heard anything back and I wonder if a scammer impersonated Ode.
>> 
>> Lynn
>> 
>> 
>> --
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Re: CS>Shade of pink

2020-09-16 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Have you, or anyone else, drunk directly from the bottle?  Saliva will tinge 
CS a pink/lavender color.  MAOn Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 01:46:35 AM 
CDT, André Juthe  wrote:  
 
 Hi everybody, 

I have a question. I know that the optimal CS is a complete pellucid solution 
and when the CS gets degraded or when the solution is not sufficiently 
dispersed it can get a shade of yellow, it has happened a couple of times (I 
use silvergen as the silvergenerator). However, now one of my bottles with CS 
has got a shade of pink(!) Has this happened to anybody else? What does it 
mean? 
/André


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Re: CS>Shade of pink

2020-09-16 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 To my knowledge, it does not change the quality of the CS, nor its potency.MA
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 07:38:54 AM CDT, André Juthe 
 wrote:  
 
 Ok, but does it matter to its quality that it has acquired this shade of pink 
color? 

Den ons 16 sep. 2020 kl 14:28 skrev MaryAnn Helland :

 Have you, or anyone else, drunk directly from the bottle?  Saliva will tinge 
CS a pink/lavender color.  MAOn Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 01:46:35 AM 
CDT, André Juthe  wrote:  
 
 Hi everybody, 

I have a question. I know that the optimal CS is a complete pellucid solution 
and when the CS gets degraded or when the solution is not sufficiently 
dispersed it can get a shade of yellow, it has happened a couple of times (I 
use silvergen as the silvergenerator). However, now one of my bottles with CS 
has got a shade of pink(!) Has this happened to anybody else? What does it 
mean? 
/André


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Re: CS>Bottle-clean or keep coated

2020-10-27 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Just wipe out the inside of your jar with a clean paper towel.  It's a very 
thin film of silver that wipes off easily.MA
On Monday, October 26, 2020, 10:12:15 PM CDT, KS Choo 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-10-27 11:02, JD wrote:
> 
hi Ode
I think the mail has some problem. I don't seem to be able to retrieve 
your mail. Only the subject and header came through.

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Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2020 #39

2020-06-29 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 You have to unsubscribe yourself.  See the word "Unsubscribe" in blue?  Right 
there next to your email address?  Easy-peasy.MA
On Monday, June 29, 2020, 06:46:51 AM CDT, hghwykd  
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2020 #43

2020-07-02 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Jeannie.  No one can unsubscribe you but yourself.  
READ THIS MESSAGE!!!
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Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2020 #55

2020-07-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 No one can unsubscribe you.  You have to unsubscribe yourself.MA
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2020 #43

2020-07-03 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Really?  My server is AT -- browser is Chrome.  The unsubscribe button used 
to show up at the bottom of the message -- but changed recently.  I thought it 
was an *Eskimo* thing.  Well -- I hope she figures out a way to get herself 
unsubscribed.  This is where not having a moderator is a real problem.MA
On Thursday, July 2, 2020, 07:43:31 PM CDT, Da Darrin 
 wrote:  
 
 Good advice only nothing like that shows in my message. Maybe it's a different 
mail server than yours.I think that the exclamation marks and such added to the 
"UNSUBSCRIBE" was her problem.Dave

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

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Re: CS>Moderating

2020-06-30 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 I'm afraid that social media isn't too welcoming to alternate groups.  So I'm 
afraid that if we all head off there, we'll be *stifled*.  I understand people 
who are coming here for information about Colloidal Silver being unhappy with 
non-Colloidal-Silver-conversation.  But all they have to do is ask questions, 
and this list will be right back on track.  Life is diverse.  Filled with 
things we both agree with don't.  As adults, we deal with that.  I agree with 
Neville -- I don't see a problem here.  If it makes people happy -- we can 
title the subject line *OT* when the topic isn't CS.  That way, people who 
aren't interested can just pass it by.
One other thing -- Nenah has been part of this list for a very long time.  
She's not a *hawker*.  I appreciate her knowledge, and her willingness to share 
it.
Lighten up people.  Life is short.  And sometimes very difficult, as we've all 
discovered these past few months.  Let's not be so rigid -- let's be open to 
ideas that aren't our own -- let's allow others the privilege of sharing things 
that are important to them.
I do miss Mike terribly.  He was a voice of reason and a kind human being.  I 
hope he's ok.MA
P.S.  I belong to a couple of groups that have migrated to IO -- it's a great 
platform, and operates the way that Yahoogroups used to.  So I'm very ok with 
switching to that if everyone wants to.  Tony -- thank you for taking the 
trouble to set it all up.
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 07:34:01 PM CDT, Mk Grimm  
wrote:  
 
 Yea would hate to see this list dies off.
Perhaps this list should also have its own channel on each of the social media 
platform to generate more audience for CS awareness. And within each of the 
social media platform account for this CS list, can link back here to this 
list. CS is a powerful and super cheap alternative medicine that far more 
people should be aware of especially during this time and our unknown future.
MK.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:23 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

If people take a look at the Internet today, in the print medium, on the TV, in 
their mailbox at home, everywhere you go today, they are bombarded with rubbish 
Advertising etc blah blah, all they do is either have patience, stop buying the 
print medium, turn the TV off, and add "No Junk Mail" in their home mailbox, 
and then go on to what they want to see or hear.  It's the world of Internet, 
so, if they can deal with that rubbish, then surely they can do it in the same 
way on here.  I don't see a problem.  If one wishes not to read something, then 
just ignore it and delete it in the same way they have dealing with it for a 
decade or more.
Frankly, I don't see an issue if OT stuff was here as well as Silver.  I can 
deal with it in the same way I deal with it any other Social Platform, I can 
take it or leave it, my choice, it's simply one button to push to delete 
something.
My opinion is, this List will probably die a natural death when most of us on 
here die out.  No disrespect or whatever, but that's how I see it.  We can 
already see that the List goes quite quiet from time to time, there is only so 
much which can be known, (if you get my drift), then it's the next generation 
which will have to hold the torch and carry it on.  If you want to keep this 
List alive, then I reckon it should be joined with the OT stuff.  Like I said, 
people can participate or take it or leave it, their choice.
This Silver List was created way before I joined, but over the years I think 
the best way to keep this alive is to allow a different direction.
My opinion...I'll put my hat on and leave now. 
N.
  

Re: CS>STORING CS

2020-07-11 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Hi Gladys.  Most of us store our CS in glass containers.  I still store mine 
in cobalt blue bottles to block as much light as possible -- although it has 
been determined that light does not degrade CS.  Old habits die hard.    
Quart-size canning jars are perfect for making and storing CS.
The only time that you need to wash your CS jar is before the first use.  After 
washing and rinsing -- rinse again several times with distilled water to remove 
any remaining impurities.  If you always use the same jar for brewing your CS, 
then after the original cleaning, you only need wipe out the interior of the 
jar with a paper towel, once in awhile, to remove any silver residue clinging 
to the glass. 
Are you new to making Colloidal Silver?  If so -- welcome to a wonderful 
world!!MA
On Friday, July 10, 2020, 09:29:03 PM CDT, JD  wrote:  
 
  
Typical plastic bottles (i.e., such as typical water bottles, or milk or juice 
bottles, etc.)  pick up static electricity from their surroundings which can  
reduce the potency of colloidal silver.
 
 However non-reactive, medical-grade plastic bottles don’t pick up static 
electricity from their surroundings. So you can store colloidal silver in them. 
They are expensive, but standard 3% household hydrogen peroxide is sold in 
non-reactive, medical grade dark plastic bottles.  
 
 

 
 

 
 
 Therefore, buy H2O2, use or empty bottle, wash well, then wash with distilled 
water -- inexpensive medical-grade plastic bottle to store EIS!
 

 
 On 7/10/2020 8:15 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
  
 
#yiv3545655870 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} No, I don't store my EIS in 
plastic, only glass.  However, I do use a plastic water drink bottle when I go 
away at any time.  I decant from my glass storage vessel into that plastic 
drinking bottle.  If there is still some in the bottle when I come back home, I 
just sit it on top of a cupboard in the kitchen until it's empty, I drink some 
every morning anyway so it doesn't stay there too long.  
   No, don't use soap and water.  Keep it FREE from ANY contaminants.  I never 
wash my storage vessels out, never.  I produce my EIS in the same glass vessel 
I store it.  All I do is quickly wipe the vessel out with paper towel when it's 
empty and it's ready to go again.  
   I have been doing this for over 15 odd years.  
   N.   
   From: Williams 
 Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2020 8:52 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: CS>STORING CS     
Can you store CS in a plastic water/soda bottle or must it be glass?  And if 
you wash the glass jar 
 
with soap and water does that pollute the cs? Thank you in advance.
 
Gladys Williams
 

 
 

Re: CS>Essential Oils

2020-06-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Thanks Lynn -- I'll check her out!MA
On Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:03:33 AM CDT, Lynn Greene 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi MaryAnn:
Yes. A newer essential oil supplier is at 
https://www.etsy.com/shop/Naturesprescriptives. The owner/producer’s name is 
Cher. She is scrupulous about sourcing from the very best sources, such as 
Bulgarian rose and different varieties of frankincense, and personalized 
organic perfumes, and lotions. She has a FB page and website, too.Fast 
shipping, as well.Lynn


On Jun 26, 2020, at 6:35 AM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
Hi all.  My essential oil supplier is closing up shop -- and I need a new 
source of supply.  I'm familiar with DoTerra and Young Living, and prefer to 
avoid those.  Can anyone make a recommendation for a quality company with a 
good reputation for undiluted oils?  I'm specifically looking for Frankincense. 
 Thanks.MA

  

CS>Essential Oils

2020-06-26 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Hi all.  My essential oil supplier is closing up shop -- and I need a new 
source of supply.  I'm familiar with DoTerra and Young Living, and prefer to 
avoid those.  Can anyone make a recommendation for a quality company with a 
good reputation for undiluted oils?  I'm specifically looking for Frankincense. 
 Thanks.MA

Re: CS>Covid Nasal Spray -- anti-Covid ACTIVE Ingredient -- similar to CS (Colloid of Silver)

2020-12-17 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Cyndiann -- I didn't have a link in my post.  ???
What's getting old -- in my opinion -- is seeing a good portion of the 
population believing in lamestream media, which spews forth unending fear 
tactics designed to keep the population afraid and under control.  And I don't 
see how any "leaders" can be "directly responsible" for an illness that spread 
from a foreign country and was possibly weaponized -- much less responsible for 
deaths that resulted.  Perhaps the truth -- the real truth -- is a little 
bigger and a little darker than you realize.MAOn Thursday, December 17, 
2020, 12:55:47 PM CST, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:  
 
 Not used to scientific terms? Nowhere did I say wearing a mask will be 100% 
effective. It's the best we have for now, it's backed by science many times 
over and it sure beats fake websites and lies. Saw some figures last night that 
put most masks at about 80% effectiveness while bandanas were only about 30% 
effective. From your own link:
  To help slow the spreadof SARS-CoV-2, precautions should be implemented 
tostay home once exposed to someone with COVID-19,**in addition to adhering to 
recommendations to wash hands often, wear masks, and social distance  

It's getting old seeing a good portion of the population believe in fake 
websites, fake leaders, which happens so you can't blame them for the deaths 
when they are directly responsible.

|  | Virus-free. www.avast.com  |


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:44 PM Victor Cozzetto  
wrote:

Cyndiann,Stop your nonsense fear mongering and go away.Most people probably 
learned to block your emails by now, but I allow them to come through so that I 
can help protect people from your disinformation.
You can see on the CDC website that most people dying from COVID wear 
masks.https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf

If anyone is still listening to all the nonsense, you can dismiss it by 
understanding the math. Lots of videos like this by people that actually know 
what they are talking about - there has been no change in all cause global 
mortality:https://youtu.be/3cjgicrA504

If you prefer a more legal perspective, you should know that there is a global 
legal initiative led by Reiner Fuellmich and others (including Robert F. 
Kennedy Jr.) that already concluded their fact finding to determine that 
COVID-19 is largely a fraud, and they are pursuing the players behind the 
scenes for crimes against humanity. Thousands of highly respected lawyers, 
doctors, and scientists from around the world are behind it. Videos get taken 
down, but try this one:https://youtu.be/MjrY-I7v--Q

Fear kills far more people than COVID every will.Eat well, breath fresh air, 
get sunshine, exercise, socialize, etc., and drink colloidal silver ;-)Victor








  

Re: CS>Bottle-clean or keep coated

2020-11-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Ok.  I can't answer your question as to whether or not it is advantageous to 
keep the film.  I never noticed any difference in either the amount of time 
that it takes to brew a batch, or in the quality of the CS itself -- whether 
the silver film was there or not.  I can tell you that if you're interested in 
checking the Tindall effect, you'll need for the sides of the jar to be clean.  
Laser light cannot pass through the film after it has reached a certain 
density.MA
On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 10:34:10 AM CST, JD  wrote:  
 
  
My question was not whether it is easy to clean (it is).  My question was if 
the silver patina that is in the jar is beneficial or, is there a disadvantage 
of having the silver patina, for the production and/or storage of the Colloidal 
Silver.
 
 On 10/27/2020 8:05 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  
 
 Just wipe out the inside of your jar with a clean paper towel.  It's a very 
thin film of silver that wipes off easily. MA 
  On Monday, October 26, 2020, 10:12:15 PM CDT, KS Choo 
 wrote:  
  
   On 2020-10-27 11:02, JD wrote:
 > 
 hi Ode
 I think the mail has some problem. I don't seem to be able to retrieve 
 your mail. Only the subject and header came through.
 
 Many thanks. 
 
 
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2020 #116

2020-12-28 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 You have to unsubscribe yourself.  The instructions are right there at the 
bottom of your post.MA
On Sunday, December 27, 2020, 09:23:56 PM CST, Jeannie  
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Re: CS>ODE: Clean Silver Puppy

2021-01-23 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Hi JD -- I'm not Ode, but most of us just wipe it out with a clean paper 
towel.MA
On Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:54:13 AM CST, JD  wrote:  
 
 Hi Ode,

I have a Silver Puppy.  There is black (probably Silver) on bottom.  It
is heavier over where the wires are.   What is the best way to clean that?


Thanks


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Re: CS>Carol Tierney | Facebook

2021-01-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Wow.  I'm beginning to hear/read things like this in a variety of places.  I'm 
also beginning to think there might be some credibility to it.MA
On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 06:18:49 PM CST, Gmail  
wrote:  
 
 
https://m.facebook.com/11389932224/posts/3971530016236624/


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Re: CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2020 #120

2021-01-02 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 You have to unsubscribe yourself -- no one can do it for you.MA
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Re: CS>Carol Tierney | Facebook

2021-01-04 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 I believe that, Neville.MA
On Monday, January 4, 2021, 05:41:42 PM CST, Neville Munn 
 wrote:  
 
 #yiv2788392839 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}It's a fact, this "Covid-19" 
doesn't exist, it's simply called that because it's 'CO rona'-'V Irus'-'D 
isease'-'19' which is the year ie 2019.  All they find with those 'tests' is 
the remnant of Coronvirus, or flu, which anyone who has had a flu in the past 
or the flu shot will have it, due to their immune system which recognises it, 
that's how we evolved from the Neanderthal age.  This Covid19 was the flu which 
had been 'spiced' from years ago 'manipulated' flu in a laboratory for HIV I 
believe.  Look at the list of "systems", it's laughable.  People watch too much 
propaganda on the idiot box in their lounge rooms and are gullible.  If people 
want to know the truth, they had better use a sledge hammer on that TV and find 
better sources of information.  There is so much information available out 
there, but most is censored and hidden from the people.
N.
From: MaryAnn Helland 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 12:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Carol Tierney | Facebook Wow.  I'm beginning to hear/read 
things like this in a variety of places.  I'm also beginning to think there 
might be some credibility to it.MA
On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 06:18:49 PM CST, Gmail  
wrote:


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Re: CS>My experience with burning lungs & CS

2021-02-15 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Wow Marshall!!!  That is absolutely astounding.  I've heard some amazing CS 
stories -- but I think that yours is the best!  Thanks for sharing that.MA
On Monday, February 15, 2021, 11:48:01 AM CST, John Wrobel 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the info. Be blessed.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:33 PM Jim & Pat Steinle  
wrote:

I have two nebulizers.  The oldest is an Airial with tube and mask and the 
other I bought on eBay from England; an Omron Micro Air (currently available at 
$152.80 with free shipping).  I believe I used the Airial system at that time, 
which means I only really breathed in about 1/2 of the CS as the rest would 
have went into the air when I breathed out.Jim Steinle From: John Wrobel Sent: 
Monday, February 15, 2021 11:18 AMTo: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>My 
experience with burning lungs & CS What type of nebulizer did you use?  On Sat, 
Feb 13, 2021 at 7:54 PM Jim & Pat Steinle  wrote:

A few years back I had a quite severe burning in both lungs.  I took about 
a teaspoon & 1/5 of CS in a plastic spoon and placed it into a nebulizer.  
After breathing it in for about 15 minutes my lungs were better.  I repeated 
the procedure a little later and when done my lungs were back to health.  Never 
had another problem with them again. Jim Steinle 
 

  

Re: CS>Make your own HCQ

2021-02-15 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Marshall -- can you elaborate on that please?  MAOn Monday, February 15, 
2021, 10:07:53 AM CST, Marshall  wrote:  
 
  Why bother when this is cheap and  works just as well. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087YLTR4G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 
 Marshall
 
 On 2/13/2021 10:56 PM, Jim & Pat Steinle wrote: 
   I followed this recipe and made a gallon bag of about 1 oz (1 tablespoon) 
frozen HCQ (used ice cube trays) to keep in the freezer in case of any need.  
This is only my 2nd post on this forum and I do not claim this truly is the way 
to make HCQ or not.  It appears to be a legitimate recipe by Dr. Betty Martini, 
D.Hum. as can be found on this link: 
https://rense.com/general96/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq.php
  I see many comments on the forum about HCQ and do not know if this has been 
shown before, so am posting this FYI. Jim Steinle   
 
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Re: CS>Thank you for Marshall Dudley's article

2021-02-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Thank you for your nice post Siriusley.  And thank you for the book reference. 
 I need more hours to read all the books that I'd like to read.  I have put 
your recommendation on my list.  :-)MA
On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 10:30:30 AM CST, siriusley13 
 wrote:  
 
 Thank you list members with love for fellowman and level headed discussions I 
am so happy to be a member. Hang on everyone and at least this whole thing got 
me off my wrong track of beliefs and onto a solid rock of learning to follow 
our Lord Jesus Christ. In questioning the lines we are being fed it leads to 
questioning other things we have been conditioned and coerced to blindly 
believe and ridiculed for questioning. The book “Tornado in a Junkyard” is 
worth a read!On Feb 20, 2021, 7:37 AM -0600, MaryAnn Helland 
, wrote:

How refreshing to read clear-thinking.  Thanks Carlene.MA
On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 05:07:02 AM CST, Carlene Yasak 
 wrote:

Thank you so much for the link to Marshall's article.  Information about CS/EIS 
from independent sources is rare these days and much appreciated.And thank you 
to the members of the Silver-list for being able to weather the storm of the 
non-pandemic. We can agree to disagree, for this too shall pass.I try to do my 
homework and then decide for myself, as I did when I first heard about  CS.Be 
well and free,Carlene






  

Re: CS>Thank you for Marshall Dudley's article

2021-02-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 How refreshing to read clear-thinking.  Thanks Carlene.MA
On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 05:07:02 AM CST, Carlene Yasak 
 wrote:  
 
 Thank you so much for the link to Marshall's article.  Information about 
CS/EIS from independent sources is rare these days and much appreciated.And 
thank you to the members of the Silver-list for being able to weather the storm 
of the non-pandemic. We can agree to disagree, for this too shall pass.I try to 
do my homework and then decide for myself, as I did when I first heard about  
CS.Be well and free,Carlene





  

Re: CS>Why I Wear My Mask

2021-02-21 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 If that was on Facebook -- I'd give ya a *Like*!!!  :-DMA
On Sunday, February 21, 2021, 07:05:40 AM CST, Gmail 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGYQU1WRGxI=youtu.be

   
   - The brutal reality is that the dollar was worth 1/40th ounce of gold fifty 
years ago and now is worth 1/1,900th ounce of gold. Someday, perhaps soon, it 
will be worth 1/10,000th ounce of gold.











  

Re: CS>Delete me from enails

2021-02-19 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 And once again -- you have to delete yourself -- no one can do that for you.  
Look at the bottom of your email.MA
On Friday, February 19, 2021, 10:42:46 AM CST, r...@core.com 
 wrote:  
 
 Delete me fro your emails



> silver-digest Digest                Volume 2021 : Issue 33
>
> Today's Topics:
>  Re: CS>Mindless Mask Mandates Likely  [ Lynn Greene  
>   CS>Re: Give it a rest.                [ Neville Munn  
>   Re: CS>Mindless Mask Mandates Likely  [ Deborah Gerard  
>   Re: CS>Re: Give it a rest.            [ Deborah Gerard  
>   Re: CS>Re: Give it a rest.            [ Deborah Gerard  
>   Re: CS>Re: Give it a rest.            [ Cyndiann Phillips  
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Re: CS>Scary

2021-02-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Well -- she understands how the immune system works -- and the mechanics of 
interrupting that system.  And it only took one child to point out that the 
Emperor was wearing no clothes -- when others simply ignored the evidence 
before their eyes. MA
On Sunday, February 21, 2021, 05:36:58 PM CST, Kirsteen Wright 
 wrote:  
 
 More tinfoil hat brigade. Oh look a doctor said something - it's on YouTube it 
must be true. An orthopaedic surgeon starts pontificating about a vaccine. Oh 
they must know more than all the viroligists, epidemiologists and all the other 
experts in the field. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. 
Kirsteen 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 20:55 Jean Baugh,  wrote:

Fascinating interview with a doctor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPIomjWwd4=emb_logo

Jean
  

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2021 #44

2021-02-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 You have to unsubscribe yourself.  The instructions are at the bottom of your 
post, i.e.Unsubscribe:
  
Do not put any message in the body of the email.MA
On Sunday, February 21, 2021, 10:35:46 PM CST, Jeannie  
wrote:  
 
 Please unsubscribe me.

hghw...@gmail.com

On 2/21/2021 9:31 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


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Re: CS>Fauci the long-suffering medical advisor knows about inhaling h202

2021-10-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 I refer to him as Dr. FalsieMA
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 01:10:00 PM CDT, pal joey 
 wrote:  
 
 I'd bet the rent that he knows. But he likes to pretend he doesn't.  Such a 
national treasure.    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7308628/  

Re: CS> Who Knew V

2021-10-20 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Sorry Cyndiann -- you are the ignorant mindless lemming, not Jean.  Everyone 
here has been very tolerant and patient with your insults.  I am not so 
inclined.  You have every right not to agree with anyone here -- you do not 
have the right to denigrate them.  And in doing so, you demonstrate your 
arrogance on a daily basis.  If you learned something here once, about 
Colloidal Silver -- maybe if you shut your mouth, you would learn something 
even more important now.
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 04:38:12 PM CDT, Cyndiann Phillips 
 wrote:  
 
 Stop listening to liars and trolling the truth Jean. You are an ignorant 
mindless lemming that doesn't mind running right off the cliff to be "popular"

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:02 PM Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I must be on the wrong list.  Can someone tell me how to unsubscribe?  7 posts 
from the vulgar troll is too much and I'm getting tired of deleting.
Thank you,
Jean
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 7:46 AM Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:

Just because it's on a website online it MUST be true, right?
How stupid can you all get?
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:55 PM Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:

You must have gotten that crap from this guy.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1450624881729622016

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 12:28 AM Phil Morrison  
wrote:



https://needtoknow.news/2021/10/taiwan-reports-more-deaths-from-vaccination-than-from-covid-19/



  

Re: CS>Might hydrogen peroxide reduce the hospitalization rate and complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection?

2021-10-14 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Ah!  Thank you Elizabeth!!MA
On Thursday, October 14, 2021, 09:02:56 AM CDT, Elizabeth Williams 
 wrote:  
 
 #yiv7350604014 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Lets go Brandon is from a 
raceway, where the drivers name is brandon. The crowd was shouting F*** Joe 
Biden and the reporter was trying to coverup what the crowd was saying so she 
said Lets Go Brandon, which now it has a double meaning.From: MaryAnn Helland 

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Might hydrogen peroxide reduce the hospitalization rate and 
complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection? TJ -- what does that mean -- Let's Go 
Brandon???MA
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 02:24:56 PM CDT, T. J. Garland 
 wrote:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7308628/

Let’s go Brandon!    

Re: CS>Might hydrogen peroxide reduce the hospitalization rate and complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection?

2021-10-13 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 TJ -- what does that mean -- Let's Go Brandon???MA
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 02:24:56 PM CDT, T. J. Garland 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7308628/

Let’s go Brandon!    

Re: CS>covid fatality chart

2021-10-24 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Not sure why that duplicate message showed up.  Please forgive.
On Sunday, October 24, 2021, 09:06:59 AM CDT, MaryAnn Helland 
 wrote:  
 
  

Cyndiann -- even the mainstream news is telling you that nurses are leaving 
their jobs in droves because they are being mandated to have the injections -- 
and they refuse.  So you're wrong that "the only ones in hospitals that are 
vaccinated are the staff" -- the staff are leaving their jobs over it.  If 
trained medical personnel refuse to be injected, what does that tell you?
Doctors and researchers from prestigious universities are speaking out -- all 
over the world -- warning people not to take the injections; explaining the 
dangers involved in doing so; reminding us that there are several 
easily-obtained and successful treatments for Covid so why must the so-called 
'vaccine' be mandated to begin with?  Even the makers of the so-called 
'vaccine' acknowledge that it was never intended to prevent catching the 
disease -- only to mitigate symptoms in the person who receives the 'vaccine'.  
They acknowledge this!  It was only ever intended to prevent people from 
serious complications causing them to flood hospitals.  So if the only person 
protected by the injection is the person receiving the injection -- why is our 
government mandating that every single person get injected?  Even people who 
have had Covid, and who have their own, natural God-given antibodies -- which 
are better protection, for longer, than the injections.  Why? 
For whatever it's worth, I'm not an anti-vaxxer.  I was around when Polio was 
putting children in iron lungs.  I have the vaccine scar on my arm that 
prevented me from becoming one of those.  So I grew up respecting medicine, and 
being grateful for its miracles.  But this is different.  Real vaccines prevent 
disease.  The Covid injections do not prevent disease.  They are not vaccines.  
So why are they being called vaccines?  And why is our government trying to 
force everyone to get them?  Why? 
Stop parroting what you're being told, and use your brain.  Stop believing what 
you hear on the six o'clock news and what you read on the liberal websites.  Do 
a little investigating of your own.  The information is easily found. 

On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 02:51:39 PM CDT, Max  
wrote:  
 
  
Health data, England.  Note the higher cases among vaccinated, which is 
increasing over time.   Scientists have explained this is due to the hyper 
inflammatory result of the vaccination, and its diminished effectiveness over 
time.  In country after country, all cause mortality increases after 
vaccination.   See data below
 
 On 10/23/2021 9:53 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
  
No they aren't. They really aren't. Go ask a nurse that works in the ICU. 
  Believing this makes you not do what you need to do so you won't die. Why are 
you not upset at them for telling you lies that will kill you? 
 

 
 

 

Re: CS>the USELESSNESS of the and Lockdowns -- surely NOT a SCIENTIFIC study -- but YES ! . . ????

2021-10-24 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 LOLOL  Love it!MA
On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 03:03:36 PM CDT, Greg Kentwell 
 wrote:  
 
 I love it. Tell Greta. COVID causes climate change. That will stump them. 

Regards,
Greg 


On 23 Oct 2021, at 4:09 pm, Phil Morrison  wrote:




Lockdowns are more than useless, they are counterproductive.
Lockdowns cause reduced industrial activity, and thus there is less pollution 
in the atmosphereto block solar radiation.
Less blocking of solar radiation means more heat transiting thru the atmosphere 
and warming planet Earth. 

Lockdowns add to a serious uptick in the average global temperature.

  

Re: CS>covid fatality chart

2021-10-24 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 

Cyndiann -- even the mainstream news is telling you that nurses are leaving 
their jobs in droves because they are being mandated to have the injections -- 
and they refuse.  So you're wrong that "the only ones in hospitals that are 
vaccinated are the staff" -- the staff are leaving their jobs over it.  If 
trained medical personnel refuse to be injected, what does that tell you?
Doctors and researchers from prestigious universities are speaking out -- all 
over the world -- warning people not to take the injections; explaining the 
dangers involved in doing so; reminding us that there are several 
easily-obtained and successful treatments for Covid so why must the so-called 
'vaccine' be mandated to begin with?  Even the makers of the so-called 
'vaccine' acknowledge that it was never intended to prevent catching the 
disease -- only to mitigate symptoms in the person who receives the 'vaccine'.  
They acknowledge this!  It was only ever intended to prevent people from 
serious complications causing them to flood hospitals.  So if the only person 
protected by the injection is the person receiving the injection -- why is our 
government mandating that every single person get injected?  Even people who 
have had Covid, and who have their own, natural God-given antibodies -- which 
are better protection, for longer, than the injections.  Why? 
For whatever it's worth, I'm not an anti-vaxxer.  I was around when Polio was 
putting children in iron lungs.  I have the vaccine scar on my arm that 
prevented me from becoming one of those.  So I grew up respecting medicine, and 
being grateful for its miracles.  But this is different.  Real vaccines prevent 
disease.  The Covid injections do not prevent disease.  They are not vaccines.  
So why are they being called vaccines?  And why is our government trying to 
force everyone to get them?  Why? 
Stop parroting what you're being told, and use your brain.  Stop believing what 
you hear on the six o'clock news and what you read on the liberal websites.  Do 
a little investigating of your own.  The information is easily found. 

On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 02:51:39 PM CDT, Max  
wrote:  
 
  
Health data, England.  Note the higher cases among vaccinated, which is 
increasing over time.   Scientists have explained this is due to the hyper 
inflammatory result of the vaccination, and its diminished effectiveness over 
time.  In country after country, all cause mortality increases after 
vaccination.   See data below
 
 On 10/23/2021 9:53 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
  
No they aren't. They really aren't. Go ask a nurse that works in the ICU. 
  Believing this makes you not do what you need to do so you won't die. Why are 
you not upset at them for telling you lies that will kill you? 
 

 
 

   

Re: CS>Experimental gene therapy AKA "vaccine " cannot be mandated- here's why

2021-10-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 It is both.  You are badly misinformed.  Hope you got all of your injections.  
:-)MA
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 03:27:40 PM CDT, Cyndiann Phillips 
 wrote:  
 
 It's not experimental and not gene therapy. Stop it!
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:04 PM pal joey  wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/covid-19-vaccines-cannot-be-mandated-heres-why/ar-BB1f8Iy2
  

Re: CS>Fauci the long suffering medical advisor is MAD!

2021-10-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Yeah -- Dr. Falsi is a liar -- and a criminal.  He should be prosecuted and 
punished to the full extent of the law.MA
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 07:58:53 PM CDT, pal joey  
wrote:  
 
 
https://en-volve.com/2021/10/21/fauci-is-furious-as-nih-admits-he-lied-we-did-fund-gain-of-function-at-wuhan-lab/
  I mean FURIOUS! He's about to have a Conyption! Everything was going so well; 
but uh oh, the other mad scientists got nervous; now look.  

Re: CS>covid fatality chart

2021-10-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 That's what's insane about this whole plandemic/injection issue.  You have 
better than a ninety-nine percent chance of not getting Novid.  And if you do 
get it, you have better than a ninety-nine percent of surviving it, even in the 
75+ age group.  And for this, we have destroyed people's lives and the economy. 
 Insanity.MA
On Friday, October 22, 2021, 01:32:40 AM CDT, Max  
wrote:  
 
   
Covid, a disease of hyper-inflammation in the old and unwell
 

 
 

   

Re: CS>Illegal to mandate an experimental gene therapy, aka "vaccine"

2021-10-22 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Hi Jean.  So does Novid.  I got the virus -- treated it with a Godzilla and 
nebulized Colloidal Silver.  Knocked it out in about four hours.  CS is 
amazing!!!MA
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 06:50:17 PM CDT, Cyndiann Phillips 
 wrote:  
 
 The next virus is planned?
I bet you all think Trump won too.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:05 PM Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
It is my theory that the next plandemic will contain ebola.  However, ebola 
gives to colloidal silver.
Jean
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:56 PM Rick  wrote:

Pal Joey, next year at least for sure. But even if it ends because of the 
reactions, the next virus is already planned and being prepared to be set out 
on the race track.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 4:24 PM Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:

What experiment are you referring to? Please learn to quote back.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:56 PM pal joey  wrote:

And the experiment will go on for the next year at least. I predict that by 
that time, there will be so many injuries and deaths,  that even the thickest 
of the thick will have a cause to pause, but I've been surprised by the mob 
multiple times already, so I could be mistaken. 
https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/23/federal-law-prohibits-employers-and-others-from-requiring-vaccination-with-a-covid-19-vaccine-distributed-under-an-eua/



  

Re: CS>Cansema(R) Black Topical Salve - The Internationally Recognized Skin Cancer Treatment System - basal cell, squamous cell, melanoma, carcinoma, epithelioma

2021-10-30 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Hi Shar.  Thank you for all of that information -- it's appreciated.
It just so happens that I do have a spot on my arm that I've been suspicioning 
about.  I think I'll try that first.  And thank you for the heads-up on pain -- 
that would have scared me if I didn't know about it ahead of time.  I'll keep 
you posted.MA    

On Thursday, October 28, 2021, 07:33:15 PM CDT, Neville Munn 
 wrote:  
 
 #yiv2153208159 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}If you want to wade through 
the archives there will be my experience with a Basal Cell thingo, on the nose, 
a few years ago.  Before I noticed it on my other half it was deep, red and 
spreading, showing some white 'substance', which I guess was cartlidge, hence 
the flesh was gradually being eaten away.  I killed it anyway, with EIS 
treatment.  I can't prove that of course, only by observation and treatment and 
recovery.
I think I explained it all in those posts.  I can't even find that information 
now I documented before on the follow of treatment and recovery.  I always 
document any treatment I did/do, but I can't find this one..DO'H.
N.
From: Tony Moody 
Sent: Friday, 29 October 2021 7:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; MaryAnn Helland 

Subject: Re: CS>Cansema(R) Black Topical Salve - The Internationally Recognized 
Skin Cancer Treatment System - basal cell, squamous cell, melanoma, carcinoma, 
epithelioma Hallo MA,
You could ask Greg Caton g...@gregcaton.com.
  I can also be reached by phone at: (305) 851-2305.

OK,
Tony

On 2021/10/28 21:57, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> Hi Elizabeth.  Thank you for responding.  This is a very small spot too 
> -- but on a nose, it's relative.  Did you get a deep hole before 
> healing?  I'm also worried that it would go all the way through the nose 
> flesh.
> MA
> 
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021, 02:32:54 PM CDT, Elizabeth Williams 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have used cansema and it didnt leave a huge hole, but the initial spot 
> was small. It eventually healed completely.
> Elizabeth
> 

  

Re: CS>Pure Blooded Anthem

2021-10-30 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Loved it!MA
On Friday, October 29, 2021, 12:33:24 PM CDT, Rick 
 wrote:  
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE
  

Re: CS>Moving the group...

2021-10-30 Thread MaryAnn Helland
 Well Hello Mike!  How great it was to see you post here again -- like running 
into an old friend at the grocery store!  Your announcement made me sad -- the 
Silver-list has been 'home' for very many years -- twenty, I'm thinking?  I 
lost track of it for awhile, and was so glad to find it again -- only to lose 
it again.    But time marches on -- nothing in life stays the same -- and 
particularly true of technology, eh?  I, for one, will be forever grateful that 
you created this list -- it was a gateway to knowledge that could not be found 
elsewhere.  And that from people who never earned a dime for sharing and 
caring.  The impact of that on my life has been un-measurable.  You are 
responsible for that -- and I thank you.  I'm very glad to hear that you will 
perhaps be participating on the new list.
Regarding the new list:  first of all, I'm grateful for it -- the worst thing 
of all would be for the people here to just go their separate ways.  And I'm 
also grateful that two of our people have agreed to moderate that list, 
enabling it to become.  So far, I haven't seen a lot of activity, or any sense 
of comraderie such as we have here -- I hope that changes.  It has been a 
relief to be here the past couple of weeks, reading posts and information from 
people of like mind regarding Novid and the non-vaccine.  Our world of American 
solidarity and the belief that our government is looking out for us, has been 
completely shattered.  I'm certain that I'm not the only one here that is at 
least a little bit shell-shocked, to say the least.  In times of troubles, it 
is doubly important to have access to people who think/feel the same way.  So 
my hope is that we can speak as freely, and as often, on the new list as I have 
seen here -- pertaining to these things.
Regarding the troll -- it's important to remember that she represents a large 
percentage of our population who just don't get it.  Her behavior is fear-based 
-- and that fear was created intentionally by our not-so-benevolent government, 
the pharmaceutical industry and other as-of-yet unidentified entities who are 
profiting or will profit from all of this.  That same fear is destroying 
families and friendships all across our nation.  It's happening in my own 
family, and in my social life.  I pray many times a day, every day, that 
somehow a miracle will occur that sets things to right.  
Any rate -- Mike -- thanks for the memories!!    See you on the new list, 
I hope.MA
 
On Friday, October 29, 2021, 11:11:02 PM CDT, M. Devour 
 wrote:  
 
 I dunno, Neville! I'm subscribed to the new group, and now that it's web 
site is bookmarked and on my toolbar, I should be checking in from time 
to time.

Peace,

Mike D.

On 10/29/21 10:52 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
> Well, I guess it's goodbye from me and goodbye from him .
>
> N.

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