- the browser or the server. Either way you run into data
conherency issues.
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I would suggest reading the docs on HTML::Template's caching
methods. They may help, but HTML::Template is quite fast anyway.
-spencer
Mike wrote:
Hello,
I have a database application which
() an iteration of a TMPL_LOOP H::T or a
[% FOR %] in TT.
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Robert wrote:
My meager Perl skills are probably killing me on this one. I am trying to
use the module in question to get info out of a database nicely format it
and then plaster it into my html page.
sub
the CGI query object you just created. Then
call that objects 'run()' method.
Does that make sense?
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out of box, but then I spent all of my time trying
to override all of it's built in functionality which turned out to be
more work than doing it myself.
Hope you enjoy the CGI::App world with the rest of us.
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this seems to be an issue with C::A and not
with your plugin structure)
I like it so far. Simple yet does what it needs to do.
Thanks for putting your TV viewing on hold. :)
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vote is yes (not to criticize the naming of your tools Cees :). At
least for all future plugins it seems to make sense to me.
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Are you able to untar them? If so, can you send me the plaintext via
email?
Yeah, same problems here. I'm using the module straight for testing
without it being installed. Is there another tar'ed version?
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Rhesa Rozendaal wrote:
Michael Peters wrote:
William McKee wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't understand the magic behind the Plugin code
so I
went to check out how you implemented it in your Session and TT modules.
However, I am receiving errors when trying to untar these files:
tar: Read 6264
Rhesa Rozendaal wrote:
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Unfortunately, I don't understand the magic behind the Plugin code
so I
went to check out how you implemented it in your Session and TT modules.
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I am currently building out a reporting system that uses C-A and H-T to
query some backend databases and then creating reports out of that data.
Currently I use three files to do this. I use my
clean it up, or you could even have
you application delete images that are too old (as you define) when you
create your next image. This might impact performance a little if you
are generating a lot of images.
Any thing in that mess help?
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Put in a debug print/die/warn statment inside the if(
defined($q-param('back')) ) block just to make sure.
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use 'SomePlugin';
and the methods the author gave to you would automatically
be there for you to use as if they belonged to the class
you're currently writing.
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-plugins{foo}-foo_stuff;
I don't particularly like that idea since it makes it more
complicated, but at least it would solve namespace
collisions cause the user using the plugin could name it
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to use plugins. But it would certainly work.
Just to set a reference point, do we all agree that
everything we discussed would benefit from some agreed
upon method of preventing namespace conflicts between
plugins - no matter what space they are brought into?
Yes
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the user picks the
name by which each plugin is accessible.
Ok, now time for questions, comments, verbal abuse...
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Would that work? Would the plugin's accessor method be properly inherited by
the child class?
I'm pretty sure that would still work. All methods in the base
class should be visible inside the child class.
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behaviour by
default. The concept of namespaces came about just for this
kind of thing... separating methods, variables so that they
won't override each other.
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Ok, some more thoughts and ideas on all of this...
This method would work, but I think it has the
possibility
provides,
or according to the rules we've discussed.
I'll have to look at the details of this, but I'm sure we can
find an easy flexible way to handle it.
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your ideas.
It might make things clearer to actually see an implementation of your
system to see how it will work in practice.
Let me know what you (and everyone else on this list) thinks of
the above ideas and then I'll try and take a crack at it in the
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a hash key to the CGI::Application which reflects
the name of your
plug-in, such as:
$self-{'Config::Simple'}
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Thoughts?
The above pod would work for me except for a blurb about naming your
plugin in the C::A::Plugin namespace :)
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that are more complex may provide a challenge...
You might/should have built in regexes for different types, but I
agreee that it might be too much to have the user learn regexes.
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an array. Any work arounds? if not I guess I'll make a patch...
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require HTML::Template;
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I'm trying to find a way to pass multiple search
paths either to
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have all my
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I don't think that splitting on ':' in load_tmpl is the best way to go
about this.. however I do think that HTML::Template should split on
':'. This would make it easy to add multiple paths using
something most people would be used to it
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Unless you modify every run mode of every application module to save
their state before returning to the browser
In my particular application, this is fairly easy. All my runmodes
call a common
to William, I probably am confused about how the web
application processes forms. Thanks for helping out!
Sean
On Sep 8, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Michael Peters wrote:
It depends on what you mean by pass cgi parameters between run modes.
If you mean that one mode generates a page that the user sees
::A (including docs and a test) to add
this ability in. All test currently pass.
Mark/Jesse - any way this can be incorporated any time soon? any other
features/bug/fixes out there for another release?
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add a new key
to pass to new MODE_FROM_PATH = 1... just another idea to
consider...but I like the idea overall.
This should be backwards compatible with the current options.
As would both of my suggestions.
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William McKee wrote:
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 09:51:25AM -0400, Michael Peters wrote:
cfg()
dbh()
validate_rm()
session()
don't forget ...
tt()
config()
What modules implement these? It looks like tt stands for Template
Toolkit (or possibly Text::Template). How is this plugin different from
. PATH_INFO support in mode_param
4. adding arrayref support to load_tmpl().
Once I recieve the patches from yourself and Rob, I'll merge everything
and post a beta for review.
Looking forward to it :)
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--- CGI-Application-3.22/lib/CGI/Application.pm 2004-02-13
-new(..);
$app-mode_param(sub {'run_mode'}); #this will set the run mode
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The uploaded file
CGI-Application-Plugin-Config-Simple-0.03.tar.gz
has entered CPAN as
file:
$CPAN/authors/id/W/WO/WONKO/CGI-Application-Plugin-Config-Simple-0.03.tar.gz
size: 5271 bytes
md5: 097e6655c1349bf0706c081c7f100e6e
No action is required on your part
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or this (vanilla cgi)
/app/index.cgi?/module_name/run_mode?extra_stuff...
into something that will be functionally similar to this
my $app = Module::Name-new(..);
$app-mode_param
should package up what I have so far and see what people think.
I'm going to use it in a project I'm working on regardless but I was
thinking about publishing it eventually anyway.
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tar -zxvf CGI-Application-3.22.tar.gz
cd CGI-Application-3.22
perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/my/local/path
make
make test
make install
Does that help? or were you asking something different?
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Joel Gwynn wrote:
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Joel Gwynn wrote:
Maybe this is more of a CPAN question, but maybe somebody here can
help. I'm trying
that everyone is happy.
Maybe the best I can hope for is that my plugin doesn't work with every
plugin that uses CGI.pm specific features.
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', -size=100,
-value= $usr_ml,
-maxlength=100));
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That's not really a C::A question. Why don't you just print out the
value instead of using a input box? I don't think you can make input
fields non-modifiable unless you set them as 'disabled'.
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it might be confusing to users who can't modify a field even
though it looks like every other field? I would think that using a
'disabled' input field would be less confusing and we all know how
confused some users can be.
Just a thought...
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are placing in the form that you don't want
modified and place that in the form too. Then check the hash
when you get the parameters back.
Just setting it to 'readonly' will not be sufficient security.
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not to sure if this is the right
solution..
I think I remeber some talk about this just a bit ago...
CGI::Application::Plugin::TemplateRunner? Maybe you could add some of
your needs to what that plugin does.
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# Want to go to mode2_sub but cannot set the 'rm' hidden variable
as I have lost the template 1 context!. What to do?
return $self-mode2_sub;
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That should do it.
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the values you are
getting from the user and stuffing them in cookies... which I would say
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There's also a lot of material on the wiki showing how to process forms,
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addition, that release would be a good
reason to beat our advocacy drums some.
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? Pass along a param to
the runmode method? Then pass that to the template as a param?
That sounds like a reasonable plan to me :)
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Am I right in guessing CAP::Session will be using mod_perl instead of
CGI.pm?
It will be using Apache::Request instead of CGI.pm since you can run
with CGI.pm under mod_perl
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Right now they are incompatible. This is not because of the way
CAP::Apache deals with http headers but because CAP::Session assumes
your query object has a 'cookie()' method.
You can still use both
think of any off the top of my head.
I'm heading over to PerlMonks now to see if I can find anything in Super
Search there.
In the meantime... could anybody do some 'name dropping' for me? I'd
appreciate it!
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as if no path_info was provided.
This is a fairly new edition to the C::A world. What version are you
running? I think it is only available in the latests (3.31). If that's a
issue, like someone else pointed out, you can use C::A::Dispatch (which
you might want to do anyway :) or upgrade C::A.
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of user into a module, but you url's
would be the same. And you would only need it one place and it would
work under vanilla cgi or mod_perl.
Just some more ideas.
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LocationMatch /app/public_stuff/admin_.*
Require group admin
/LocationMatch
This would mean that all run modes in the Public::Stuff application
module that begin with 'admin_' would also be protected.
Hope that gives you even more ideas.
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in the same module
that the user will have access to it. I don't know if I'm missing the
point of your question or not, but this has never been an issue for me.
As a side note, when would you ever have mode1 return mode2 and the user
not have permissions to run mode2?
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Sean Davis wrote:
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Sean Davis wrote:
For those of you using path_info parsing to get at run_modes, how do
YOU deal with the dynamic run_mode changes? It is easy enough to
return $self-other_run_mode, but in the setting of using path_info
arg=bar --
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might look at is to see if you have any other
locations that start off with '/lunae' since this might also influence
the PATH_INFO even if it doesn't process the response.
Just some ideas. Maybe there's something better than PATH_INFO that
Dispatch can use. Any ideas?
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Just some ideas. Maybe there's something better than PATH_INFO that
Dispatch can use. Any ideas?
It might be as simple as stripping the Location off of the beginning
of the path and using that. It was my understanding that that's what
PATH_INFO was, but maybe
Michael Peters wrote:
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I respond to myself to clarify some things...
I patched the C::A::Dispatch handler function to print the $path_info
variable (got with $r-path_info()) to a file in /tmp. Apparently for
the URL localhost/lunae/home/mode3, $path_info is set
Alexandre Jousset wrote:
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I checked and I have neither 'home' in document root nor locations
that starts with /lunae. I tried to change Home.pm with Test.pm and
getting /lunae/test/mode1 also give me a $path_info of /mode3... :-(
Maybe you could bring this up
goal is to get it to
work under both. I'll look at your changes and incorporate where
necessary. I know I keep saying that mp2 support will be coming soon,
but I keep getting a little swamped with projects at work. It won't be
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It's really easy to create the profile and then take the valid results
and map that to a create() or update().
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of the reasons I suggested using a templating system. It would all be
within one process. Even under mod_perl this system would be faster than
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Authz/Authen are just the shorthand Apache uses.
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those machines and skip the rpm step.
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Its a bayesian tail filter so you 'teach' it what kind of log messages
matter to you and what kind don't. An interesting approach to filtering
through a lot of junk.
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related group of actions, then issue a
commit, then repeat. If something fails, the commit is never issued and
Class::DBI does a good job of logging what failed.
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it to still be there
after you deliver a page to the user.
Others have suggested it before so I'm just following up... Have you
looked at CGI::Application::Plugin::Session? It's about the easiest way
in the world to use sessions with C::A.
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Let us know if the above helps.
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We'll try not to be impatient then :)
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it would still make a nice plugin :)
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this sort of dual-use of a run-mode?
What functionality would it add?
If it get's implemented, I'm sure it would be trivial to allow something
like
$self-bounce('display_widget', %extra_args);
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create the error page as part of it's public API? Would this make sense
Mark? or is there a better way?
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Much simpler and easier to maintain if C::A changes the interanals of
it's load_tmpl method.
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Well, keep working towards it :)
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I've seen (I know, I know, I
should really try it out first hand) it doesn't do anything that can't
already be done with perl (Maypole, Catalyst, C::A w/TT and Class::DBI).
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tmpl_include tmpl_var name.html
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So the ads are inserted via javascript and not interpreted php? What
are the non-javascript options, just out of curiousity.
It really shouldn't be that hard to write a one mode C::A that would
randomly pick an ad and send it to the browser. If you
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Joel Gwynn wrote:
So the ads are inserted via javascript and not interpreted php? What
are the non-javascript options, just out of curiousity.
It really shouldn't be that hard to write
plan went to sleep() until he was born.
Good luck to all the CGI-App speakers! Post the news of your talks back
to the list.
I'll definitely be making the slides available to any and all who want
them after it's all over.
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there sometime that week and I'm
sure we can scrounge up some more people. :)
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Michael Peters
Developer
Plus Three, LP
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