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<E36> OBD-II F2
Re: Looking for a TC Kline rollbar...
Fw: SPEED CHANNEL-ON DEMAND (COMCAST)
Re: What does this error message mean?
1 feu stop
E34 heater core done!
*$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Re: Buyers Guide for a 2001 X5
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:24:26 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36> OBD-II F2
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Started up the car upon leaving the office this evening to find it running
rough. And I mean really *rough*, felt like it was running on less than five
cylinders. Stayed like that for around 12miles of 75mph driving (in 4th gear
to smooth it out), and then all of a sudden it cleared up. Ran great the rest
of the trip, and started up just fine after a few hours in the gym too.
OBD-II is reading F2 (misfire, cylinder #5). That's it? Sheez, I expected
more than that (more than one cylinder for sure, I was thinking maybe the
motor was sucking tons of extra air?).
Any ideas on what might've happened here?
- Kevin Jay
'96 328is, stock motor, usual Bilstein/H&R setup, 86K
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:06:33 -0800
From: Peter Guagenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Looking for a TC Kline rollbar...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm looking to add a TCK roll bar to my E36 coupe, and
> wanted to see if anyone had one (or knew of one) for
> sale. I'm in no rush for it, so if you're planning a
> full cage later in the winter/spring, I wouldn't mind
> waiting awhile.
I have an Autopower bar that will be coming up for sale. It has the
removable center section and is powdercoated black -- yes, I said
powdercoated. ;-)
A local friend said he may want it, but I'm open to offers if he falls
through.
-p
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:20:11 -0500
From: "lieb923" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC DIGEST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: SPEED CHANNEL-ON DEMAND (COMCAST)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> FYI
> Bad News-No Speed Channel availability with Comcast in my area.
> Good News- I just found it available " On Demand" FREE - WOO HOOO!!!!!!
> Saw the Monterey Historics tonight. Looks like there might be 100 shows
> available.
> Works just like a VCR. I guess it's their version of Tivo.
> If you have On Demand in your area, check it out.
> Norman Lieberman '97 528/5 in Philly "GO EAGLES"
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:04:03 +0200
From: "Pavel Tcholakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does this error message mean?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It was actually just a CHECK light as opposed to a CHECK ENGINE light,
hence the message on the OBC (Thanks Brett!). Although the yellow light
which lit up in my dash says "Check Engine", it was just drawing my
attention to the message. It was a bit of a scare as I wasn't aware of
this difference, so thanks again for pointing that out!
The message apparently translates from the French as: "fault in one
brake light." (Thanks Neil!) I changed 3 of the 4 bulbs about two months
ago after it said "Brake Light Failure". I know the one cluster is a bit
wobbly, maybe that and driving down a steep twisty road caused something
to disconnect temporarily. It hasn't come up again today. I think I'll
just disassemble everything and use some electrical spray on the
sockets. Why it's in French I can't say, last time it showed me
something ("check windscreen wash fluid") it was in English but I've
disconnected the battery a couple of times since.
I shall try the pedal trick again, I'm pretty sure it's me who's not
doing it right :-)
Thank-you for all the replies, the UUC Digest rocks!
Best regards,
Pavel
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Subject: Re: [UUC] What does this error message mean?
I've never heard of a check engine light displaying anything on the OBC,
so that's a first. Regarding the pedal test, it's very particular about
the timing of when you turn the key on and start to pump the pedal. It
should basically be in the same rhythm, so key on, pump x 5 (it's 5
right? that's off the top of my head) about once per second. If you wait
too long after turning the key on it won't work. At one point I was
convinced it didn't work on my car (allegedly some ECUs that have been
re-flashed lose this capability) but eventually I got it to work.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:32:02 -0500 (EST)
From: John Drendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 1 feu stop
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Don't know why your'e getting a fault reading in French on your
OBC, but " 1 feu stop" means that you have a bad bulb on a stop light.
> Tonight while I was driving (quite casually, I might add) the check engine
> light came on and the following showed on the OBC display:
>
> DEFAUT 1 FEU STOP
>
> I might be misreading it because I have a dead column of pixels, but I believe
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:09:26 -0600
From: "Andrew Harkonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUCDigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E34 heater core done!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I just wanted to pass on my thanks to the list for the recent advice on my
heater core swap, especially Roland. I was able to get the whole job done
in just under 5 hours, filled, bleed, and heat coming out of the vents.
Overall this job was not as bad as I had anticipated, just a lot of little
screws and many wires to contend with. For anyone who may have to do this
job in the future, get lots of paper towels, and a nice two liter bottle to
make into a catch pan for the core.
Now my next question: I have had a very intermittent stumble or hesitation
that cropped up last summer, and again, twice in the past few weeks. The
car will die for a second, check engine, anti lock lights etc. come on, then
it comes back to life and works fine. This symptom has occurred at random
times, under acceleration, cruise, etc. There is no rhyme or reason to when
it might happen. I have been told that this could be a main relay starting
to give up the ghost. Any thoughts? Is this a good place to start?
Finally, which relay is the main one? My Haynes manual (second rate to
Bentley - I know) does not list the position of relays. I have a new relay
in the glove box waiting........
Andrew Harkonen
'89 535i
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:25:51 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Damnable thing just quit on me again.
Here is the rundown (87 325i):
Took to stalling out on me at random but ever increasing times. Acted like
it was running out of gas.
Replaced main and fuel pump relays.
Still did it.
Checked and replaced transfer pump. Seemed to have fixed the problem.
Saturday, it wouldn't start at all. Confirmed that the main pump had quit.
Yesterday replaced main pump. Car runs. Yea!
Today, car stalls out again. I can cycle the fuel pumps manually and get it
to catch and run for a few seconds, then it stalls out again. Can't keep it
running.
I am kind of at the end of my rope. Suggestions? Please? I have people
telling me to buy a new car. What else is left? Fuel pressure regulator?
Water in the fuel (It was -2 this morning)?
-- Joe, E30 paper weight.
--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:40:11 -0800
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: bmw list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joseph,
Since no one has pinned this problem down for you yet here's some
new ideas to try. Two things come to mind:
1. Possibly the coolant temperature sensor. They do go bad, and are
inexpensive (~$20?) items to replace even if only as preventative
maintenance.
2. Especially if you're in a cold wave, sounds like the Air Flow
Meter. The carbon band wears, and the pointer arm and tip is made of
copper, so more thermally expansive than other metals. So if you
replaced the fuel pump on a warmer afternoon and then it got colder
again, that could be why the car ran then but not the next morning.
One way to check is to first remove the plastic cover. Then as an
assistant tries to crank the engine, notice that the arm is moving along
the band. At about the point it moves to, lightly press your fingertip
on the tip. This will force the tip to touch the carbon band. If the
car then tries to fire, then wear on the carbon band is the problem.
Also try a cm up and down the band from where the engine vacuum moves
the tip up to.
If its seems like its the AFM, there's two ways to go. Replace the
AFM, or try to bend the pointer arm down in order to bend the tip
tighter against the carbon band. A new AFM costs $$, bending the copper
arm is a great and free underground upgrade club method. Maybe a
friendly shop or local list member can lend you a spare. Any AFM from
that vintage will work just for testing purposes.
Good Luck,
'jk
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>
>Damnable thing just quit on me again.
>
>Here is the rundown (87 325i):
>
>Took to stalling out on me at random but ever increasing times. Acted like
>it was running out of gas.
>
>Replaced main and fuel pump relays.
>
>Still did it.
>
>Checked and replaced transfer pump. Seemed to have fixed the problem.
>
>Saturday, it wouldn't start at all. Confirmed that the main pump had quit.
>
>Yesterday replaced main pump. Car runs. Yea!
>
>Today, car stalls out again. I can cycle the fuel pumps manually and get it
>to catch and run for a few seconds, then it stalls out again. Can't keep it
>running.
>
>I am kind of at the end of my rope. Suggestions? Please? I have people
>telling me to buy a new car. What else is left? Fuel pressure regulator?
>Water in the fuel (It was -2 this morning)?
>
>-- Joe, E30 paper weight.
>
>--
>Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:39:37 -0600
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It seems kind of basic and I almost hate to mention it based upon what
you have been through but what about the fuel filter.
Regards
Jamie Howton
2002 330i
1995 M3
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Damnable thing just quit on me again.
Here is the rundown (87 325i):
Took to stalling out on me at random but ever increasing times. Acted
like it was running out of gas.
Replaced main and fuel pump relays.
Still did it.
Checked and replaced transfer pump. Seemed to have fixed the problem.
Saturday, it wouldn't start at all. Confirmed that the main pump had
quit.
Yesterday replaced main pump. Car runs. Yea!
Today, car stalls out again. I can cycle the fuel pumps manually and get
it to catch and run for a few seconds, then it stalls out again. Can't
keep it running.
I am kind of at the end of my rope. Suggestions? Please? I have people
telling me to buy a new car. What else is left? Fuel pressure regulator?
Water in the fuel (It was -2 this morning)?
-- Joe, E30 paper weight.
--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None...
Yet
________________________________________________________________________
__
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:43:37 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Another thing to check is if there is suction being built in the fuel
system. I was experimenting with removing the charcoal canister out of my
E36 race car. In one of my plumbing experiments I created so much suction
in the fuel system I couldn't get the gas cap off the fuel filter. Car
would run but would do what you're seeing as a problem. So if your evap
system is plugged you may be seeing a similar problem.
Marco
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Damnable thing just quit on me again.
Here is the rundown (87 325i):
Took to stalling out on me at random but ever increasing times. Acted
like it was running out of gas.
Replaced main and fuel pump relays.
Still did it.
Checked and replaced transfer pump. Seemed to have fixed the problem.
Saturday, it wouldn't start at all. Confirmed that the main pump had
quit.
Yesterday replaced main pump. Car runs. Yea!
Today, car stalls out again. I can cycle the fuel pumps manually and get
it to catch and run for a few seconds, then it stalls out again. Can't
keep it running.
I am kind of at the end of my rope. Suggestions? Please? I have people
telling me to buy a new car. What else is left? Fuel pressure regulator?
Water in the fuel (It was -2 this morning)?
-- Joe, E30 paper weight.
--
Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None...
Yet
________________________________________________________________________
__
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:11:44 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From Marco Romani
>
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>
>
>Another thing to check is if there is suction being built in the fuel
>system. I was experimenting with removing the charcoal canister out of my
>E36 race car. In one of my plumbing experiments I created so much suction
>in the fuel system I couldn't get the gas cap off the fuel filter. Car
>would run but would do what you're seeing as a problem. So if your evap
>system is plugged you may be seeing a similar problem.
>
>Marco
>
I should be able to cheat and test that one by removing the fuel cap. Could
be... I will try that.
-- Joe
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:59:18 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If you hear a big sucking sound when you remove the cap......
Marco
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>From Marco Romani
>
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>
>Another thing to check is if there is suction being built in the fuel
>system. I was experimenting with removing the charcoal canister out of my
>E36 race car. In one of my plumbing experiments I created so much suction
>in the fuel system I couldn't get the gas cap off the fuel filter. Car
>would run but would do what you're seeing as a problem. So if your evap
>system is plugged you may be seeing a similar problem.
>
>Marco
>
I should be able to cheat and test that one by removing the fuel cap. Could
be... I will try that.
-- Joe
--
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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:04:57 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From Jamie Howton
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>It seems kind of basic and I almost hate to mention it based upon what
>you have been through but what about the fuel filter.
>
>Regards
>
>Jamie Howton
>2002 330i
>1995 M3
>
Good thought. This filter only has 13k miles on it, so I don't think that is
it, but it could be.
How about ice crystals in the fuel? Would the water tend to accumulate on
the filter and clog it?
-- Joe
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:29:41 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *$%# E30 fuel issues
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That could be it. I had a Rabbit GTI that would suffer from gas line
freeze up more so that any other car I had. I could open the hood and
use a blow drier to warm things up underhood and it would then fire up. Of
course once you got the motor running it would generate plenty of heat.
My wife's car now is having the same problem, she insists on buying gas at
the cheapest possible stations :-) She just runs a bottle of "Heat" into
the tank when we know it is going to be really cold out. In her case just
letting the car sit until the outside temp is a little warmer and it would
always start right up.
As Marco mentioned, even if it is not the filter or freeze up it could be
a clogged vent (or canister?). Having a strong fuel pump does no good if
the vent does not allow in air to replace the fuel. You are correct, a
giant sucking noise would be heard when you removed the cap. But, I would
think this would be something that would not prevent the car from being
started (after sitting all night) - like ice up would. If your tank didn't
vent then it might start up and run until the pump could no longer draw
gas. With ice up it would not start at all, most likely.
Of course, I am not much of a wrench - so what do I know :-) ?
Dennis
01 M5 silver/black
At 12:04 PM 01/14/2004 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>How about ice crystals in the fuel? Would the water tend to accumulate on
>the filter and clog it?
>
>-- Joe
>
>--
>Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:10:55 -0500
From: "GA Carnut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Buyers Guide for a 2001 X5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A '97 Range Rover would be a BMW! They bought Rover in '90*, and took over
production in '95*!
As an aside, is Lucas (electronics) still in business? I know there's a
Lucas oil, but don't think they're related.
I had a '96 Discovery that was reliable as ever - never broke down on me
once in the 2.5yrs of owning it! Of course, YMMV!
Now, on my '65 Sprite, well, hell, that's ALL Lucas! Yeah, baby! Master of
Darkness...
(* <- Rover/BMW fanatics please correct me to the specifics if I'm wrong)
Cheers
Chip
Chip Mautz
'65 Austin Healey Sprite
'88 BMW 528e
'03 Chevy Suburban
I didn't grow up - my toys just got more expensive.
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