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  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY 
  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY 
  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts
  Re: Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?
  Jay's Fikse wheels and offset/tire fit
  Re: Vented Batteries   (WAS:  Optima Battery Install)
  Re: Vented Batteries   (WAS:  Optima Battery Install)
  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
  Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
  Re: [bmwuucdigest] belt tension
  e30 chirping!!!!   ugh!!
  e34 Sway Bar Links
  Re: Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?
  Re: BMW Tow Hooks

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:00:59 -0400
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

John Kjos wrote:

> Interesting. How do you lock the inertia wheel?

sharp yank on the belt, which engages the inertial reel
as if you were in an accident.  this works even if you can't
move the seat forward (if you're tall for instance).  you
just need to work the yank such that you get it to lock at
a length which will force you to really suck in yourself
to get the belt to the buckle, then you're locked in and
ready to go.



Ben


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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:07:59 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just yank it quickly.  Alternatively, you can pull it all the way out, which
should get it to lock as it retracts.

vty,

--Dennis

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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [UUC] <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts
REALLY tight?


Dennis,

Interesting. How do you lock the inertia wheel?

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S
'01 525iTa: Stock
Portland, OR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts
REALLY tight?


> Ken wrote:
>
> >First DE this coming weekend (Road America) in the new car.  I'll be
> taking it real easy--5th time at this track but I'm sure it will feel
> really different:  '95 318i to '04 M3/SMG!  Yes, I'll probably get
> another set of Schroth's but haven't decided yet.  And yes I upgraded
> the pads and fluid first--I'm more worried about upgrading my brain :-).
> ________________
>
> How to get the seatbelts really tight?  Try this.  Slide the seat all the
> way back.  Fasten the belt.  Lock the inertia reel.  Now use the power
seat
> adjustment to slide the seat forward.  You should be "trapped" in the
stock
> 3-point belt really, really tight.  I use this trick all the time.
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
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>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
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>
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Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:23:13 -0400
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dennis Liu wrote:

> Alternatively, you can pull it all the way out, which
> should get it to lock as it retracts.

actually this _should_ only be the case in passenger &
rear seating positions.  it's an ALR - automatic locking
restraint feature & is designed for holding in child seats, but
shouldn't be in the driver's seat.  since the feature costs
money inside the retractor it wouldn't make sense to have
it on the driver's side.

I don't know whether the adoption of ISOfix & other
standardized child seat anchors in recent cars has changed
the implementation of ALR or not.  IIRC my wife's Mini
has it, will have to check the STi & see if it also does.




Ben
often wondered why we put ALR on passenger side
seats when they're not supposed to be used for child
seats in the first place...


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 00:12:05 -0400
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 11:23 PM -0400 4/11/04, ben keyes wrote:
>Dennis Liu wrote:
>
>>  Alternatively, you can pull it all the way out, which
>>  should get it to lock as it retracts.
>
>actually this _should_ only be the case in passenger &
>rear seating positions.

That is true.

A couple years ago I bought a seatbelt made for a RHD car figuring it 
might be easier to lock me in at the track. After a few months it 
stopped retracting.
-- 
...steven
TechFest East  http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast
2003 Mini Cooper S
1996 BMW 328ti

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:16:39 -0700
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: BMW UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Steve,
     It may have been me who recommended anti-sieze.
No different torque spec is needed.  A little dab on the threads is 
sufficient as it will spread around as the threads are turned.  If you 
work on enough cars eventually you will come across a siezed spark plug 
or snapped off lug bolt.  Ugliest is a snapped off spark plug.
Barry

>Why I'm thinking about it, what's the common consensus on using
>Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?  I've never used it before, but
>saw someone recommend it at one point (maybe here on this list).  I
>change my own plugs every year (my BMW) or two years (wife's Volvo),
>and don't remember ever having trouble getting them in/out, but want
>to make sure I'm not missing something important.
>Regards,
>Steve
>'04 330i ZHP (his)
>'00 323i (was his)
>'98 Volvo V70XC (hers)
>  
>

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:16:47 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Jay's Fikse wheels and offset/tire fit
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jay;

A little late to the party...

Your Fikse wheels may not be "stock" offset. I have a set of FM-5 that were produced 
around end 1999 and are 17x8.5 at all 4 corners. At that time Fikse was selling sizes 
for the E36M3 that had 37.7 mm offset. The stock offset at all 4 corners for all the 
stock BMW wheels on the E36M3 is 41 mm. That 3.3 mm could make a difference if you are 
pushing the limits on tire sizing.

I have also had the experience that tires are significantly different. You have to be 
very carefuly when comparing one manufacturer to another when you are talking about 
close tolerances on these cars. One manuf. 245 width is definitely not another's. And, 
even the different models within the same manuf. can't be depended upon to have the 
same size if they are both 245. If you absolutely want to know if a tire fits for your 
application and you are pushing the limits to the mm for fitting tires on your car you 
literally have to find someone with exactly your same setup including suspension and 
camber settings to figure it out. Or, do a lot of research and take a few chances.

Sounds like going to the body shop to get a little fender rolling is a good idea. 
Sometimes raising the rear up just a few mm can do the trick or even adding a little 
negative camber.

Regards,
Marc
95M3 with Fikse FM-5 with Toyo RA-1s 235/40/17 for the track (these rubbed under 
compression on the right read until adding 10 mm more spring pad to the rear with 1.5 
negative camber each side)


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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:26:51 -0400
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vented Batteries   (WAS:  Optima Battery Install)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Speaking of vented batteries ...

As I understand, many (all?) BMW's use a vented battery as per factory
requirements.  So, you say that it is a benefit to have a sealed battery,
and I say you are going against BMW requirements (devil's advocate here).

So, why are BMW's supposed to have vented batteries, and does it really
matter?

Stan


> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:35:28 -0400
> From: Martin Bullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> With the battery on my Z3 conking out over the winter (after 7 years,
> but only 22k miles) I picked up an Optima 34R (what used to be the
> "orange top", with reversed terminals) to put into the M3, and
> transferred the group 48 I'd put into the M a couple of years ago over
> to the Z3.
>
> It was actually pretty easy.  I basically followed the principles that
> Shawn Fogg used to put an Optima into a Z3, which he outlines on his
> website:
>
> http://www.ackthud.net/shawnfogg/optima.html
>
> All I had to do was the same modication he outlines to the hold down
> clamp.  I also found that if I turned the clamp over, I didn't need the
> spacer nuts Shawn mentions.  The only other trick to the installation
> was that the cables were only just long enough.  I put them in place
> before I snugged the battery down.  Oh, and I used a battery saver,
> which plugs a 9v battery into the cigarette lighter, to save the radio
> presets/code/window initialisation, etc.
>
> The only (minor) drawback is that the tray over the battery doesn't sit
> quite flush, but it's not noticeable.  If I'd routed the battery handle
> under the wires it might not even be a problem.
>
> So, no parts to buy, except the battery itself, it removes some weight
> from the car, is maintenance-free (and sealed, so no vent hose), and
> should prevent any corrosion issues caused a leaking battery.
>
> Martin Bullen
> '95 M3
> '97 Z3 2.8
>
>
> ------------------------------



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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:03:14 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Vented Batteries   (WAS:  Optima Battery Install)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 11:26:51PM -0400, Stan Jackson Jr. wrote:
> Speaking of vented batteries ...
> 
> As I understand, many (all?) BMW's use a vented battery as per factory
> requirements.  So, you say that it is a benefit to have a sealed
> battery, and I say you are going against BMW requirements (devil's
> advocate here).
> 
> So, why are BMW's supposed to have vented batteries, and does it
> really matter?

 The "standard" 12V car battery is a vented unit.  The difference with
BMW is that the battery is usually in a poorly vented compartment where
vented hydrogen would be a hazard.  Thus there is a need for a battery
with a directed vent - directed only to a hose that is run outside the
compartment.
 My theory is that a sealed battery is as good as a properly vented 
battery in that neither of them will release explosive gasses into the 
battery compartment.

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:36:24 -0700
From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Dennis,
> 
> Interesting. How do you lock the inertia wheel?
> 
> John Kjos
> '99 540i/6: Dinan S
> '01 525iTa: Stock
> Portland, OR

/lurk

I will say this is harder to accomplish with a manual seat.  I usually go
back 2 or 3 positions, do the yank-on-the-belt.  Then I twist at the waist
to grab the lever with one hand and pull myself forward by grabbing the
steering wheel.  It's a bit awkward, but I've never owned a car with power
seats, so I don't know any better!

The whole process does work very well though.  I do it when I'm driving out
in the country as well.  After a couple minutes, I forget about the
restrictiveness and appreciate the tight hold.

Grant



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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:46:36 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts REALLY tight?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When I instruct, I sometimes find myself in a car with manual seats and no
comfortable way to lock the belt and still reach the slide lever.  If I'm
lucky, I can just use the heel of my driving shoe to lift up on the slide
lever, and pull myself forward.  It's surprising how often that works...
:-)

vty,

--Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grant Low
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] <all><e46>Any tricks for getting the stock seatbelts
REALLY tight?


> Dennis,
>
> Interesting. How do you lock the inertia wheel?
>
> John Kjos
> '99 540i/6: Dinan S
> '01 525iTa: Stock
> Portland, OR

/lurk

I will say this is harder to accomplish with a manual seat.  I usually go
back 2 or 3 positions, do the yank-on-the-belt.  Then I twist at the waist
to grab the lever with one hand and pull myself forward by grabbing the
steering wheel.  It's a bit awkward, but I've never owned a car with power
seats, so I don't know any better!

The whole process does work very well though.  I do it when I'm driving out
in the country as well.  After a couple minutes, I forget about the
restrictiveness and appreciate the tight hold.

Grant


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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:56:32 -0500
From: "Robert M. Ellsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] belt tension
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In all cases where I've replaced serpentine belts with these tensioners, the
tool of choice is a breaker bar, not a ratchet handle.  I started with an
18" bar, but am now using a 24" one.

These easily provide the necessary leverage to get the tensioner fully
relieved.  In my experience, even a long box-end wrench or a standard
ratchet handle (even with a cheater pipe) isn't convenient at the angle you
need to be pushing through (and especially to hold the tension while you are
finagling the belt into position with one or more hands!)

I have not had a problem getting reasonable 'starting' alignment with
six-point tools, although if you're using a hex socket you might need to
remove it and rotate 90 degrees to get the right 'indexing' angle for
clearance through the needed arc and whatever parts of your body are doing
the turning and holding...  I have also seen some 'specialty tools' which
are essentially a square-recess socket extension, like a short extension
bar, with a ratchet built in, and a 'speeder ring' around the outside.  This
would let you position the actual socket or Allen extension and then set the
effective starting angle of the bar, at the cost of an additional 2" or so
of lateral clearance requirement.



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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:44 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: e30 chirping!!!!   ugh!!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Under heavy pedal while the car (84 325e) is moving (can't get it to do it just 
revving the engine, even with parking brake on), I hear a distinct, high pitched 
chirping sound.  Think air cooled VW.....NOT what I want out of my BMW (as a former 
Scirocco owner I can say that and not get in trouble.)

The whole exhaust sytem is relatively (4 months) new.  Cat is from Steve D., rest of 
system is Ebersproecher.  It made the sound after swapping out the system, but then I 
took it off the car to work on the driveshaft and check the gaskets.  There were no 
leak patterns on the gaskets btwn the manifold and the cat and the cat and the rest of 
the system, connoting to me a good seal. 

I replaced the gaskets and toqued with care.  Can you over torque and buckle the 
gaskets?

Could this be a leak on the intake side?  Has anyone EVER had a problem with a bad 
cat?  Again, I'd love to be able to crawl under car and locate it myself but it 
requires a loaded engine.  

Help......thanks!!

Dave
84 325 Beetle


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:28:10 -0400
From: John Barfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: e34 Sway Bar Links
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'd been sensing a looseness in the front suspension of my 540i, 
along with occasional light clunking at low speeds on rougher 
pavement. Besides the standard "upper control arm bushings" -- which 
I had previously  replaced using BavAuto arms with pre-pressed 750 
bushings -- it was suggested I replace the sway bar links.

Dealers/shops wanted $200-275+ to replace. I bought a pair of 
German-made links on eBay for less than $40 delivered, and put 'em on 
this weekend when I swapped out snow tires (picked up new locking 
nuts at NAPA). Old links were so loose the ball joint practically 
flopped up and down on one of them when you shook it.

Front end is now tight and silent. Even took most of the play out of 
the steering. I love a $50 fix on a BMW, especially when the 
resulting improvement is so dramatic.

JB -- (remember to read your Bentleys and support the front end on jack stands)
-- 
John Barfuss
Grand Rapids, MI

95 540iA - Alusil at 52k, valve body rebuild, sharked, 750i 3.15 LSD

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:24:31 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Always use it.  But don't get any on the electrodes.  You don't need much.
Gary Derian

> Why I'm thinking about it, what's the common consensus on using
> Anti-Seize on Spark Plug Threads?  I've never used it before, but
> saw someone recommend it at one point (maybe here on this list).  I
> change my own plugs every year (my BMW) or two years (wife's Volvo),
> and don't remember ever having trouble getting them in/out, but want
> to make sure I'm not missing something important.
> 
> Seems like if you use the anti-seize, you'd need to torque the plugs
> to a different spec (dry torque vs. wet torque, or something like
> that).
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> '04 330i ZHP (his)
> '00 323i (was his)
> '98 Volvo V70XC (hers)


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:09:34 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BMW Tow Hooks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Steve, I found one for our "new" E30 for a couple of bucks at Double
02 Salvage in Hayward, CA (510-782-2002, no affiliation).  I'm sure
other salvage yards have a few laying around.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:52:37 -0400
>From: Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: BMW UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: BMW Tow Hooks
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Does anyone know a source of cheap BMW tow hooks?  I'd like to get a
>second one to keep in the traveling toolkit.  The dealer wants like
>$22 for one, which seems outrageous for a big eye-bolt.  However,
>judging by the thread type, I doubt I'd be able to make one from
>parts found at Home Depot.
>
>Yea, yea, yea....it's only $18 after discount....but I end up buying
>lots of lots of parts there and I hate to spend $$s for something so
>simple.
>
>Regards,
>Steve
>2004 330i ZHP




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