The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 773 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  BMW Repair On Peninsula
  Re: hotter ignition coils
  <E30> Engine extraction
  <E30> Engine extraction
  Engine theory
  Re: Engine theory
  Tranny science
  Re: Tranny science
  Re: Tranny science
  Re: Tranny science
  Costco Towels/Car Drying
  Re: Costco Towels/Car Drying
  <E30> adjustable camber plates
  Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates
  Fwd:  F/S 1998 BMW 740il

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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: BMW Repair On Peninsula
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I take both my cars to Ramon but wouldn't say he is on
the Peninsula. Unless you work down here it is quite a
haul.

I know a few guys that have used:

Carrera Motors 
26 South Claremont Street, San Mateo, CA 94401 
(650) 342-9955 
 
and Phaedrus in San Francisco.

Kevin Kelly
'91 M5
'00 323iT

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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:35:51 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: hotter ignition coils
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

They said right in their own ad that most people who replace coils are
replacing old, used up coils.  Testing needs to be between new OEM
coils vs new Bav Auto coils.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:39:45 -0700
>From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>,
>   bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: hotter ignition coils
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>     Any impressions on the hotter ignition coils as shown on the
cover
>page of the recent Bavarian mailer?
<snip>




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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:46:32 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E30> Engine extraction
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Two questions on the E30 engine removal:

1. I removed the three bolts from the driveshaft which were shielded by a
large ring. (Bentley did not seem to address this) What a pain. It appears
that the tranny output flange (tri-point) is now free. Would it have been
possible to remove the three nuts connected to what I assume are studs in
the blocking metal ring? Is this the infamous "guibo"?

2. I have removed the three copper nuts from the front exhaust downpipe and
will remove the others this weekend. Once the supports for this section of
the exhaust are removed will the flanges just separate or do I need some
persuasion?

Thanks, Kevin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:52:19 -0400
From: Whit Lowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: <E30> Engine extraction
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Kevin.

Given that it's an M20....

1)  The rubber "doughnut" with six reinforced holes in it is the
guibo.  From everything I've learned, the metal cup (actually a
balancer of sorts) can be removed with the driveshaft, and it doesn't
have to be reinstalled when you put it back together.  All in all,
only three bolts have to be removed to separate the shaft from the
output flange.

2) Remove 3 nuts per pipe.  Once all other exhaust support brackets
are loosened or removed, the exhaust should, quite literally, fall out
with a few pulls on the downpipes.  There are metal heat gaskets
between the headers and the downpipes.  Watch out or it'll end up on
your head!  Yes, I've done it before.  Ouchy.

best, whit



On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Two questions on the E30 engine removal:
> 
> 1. I removed the three bolts from the driveshaft which were shielded by a
> large ring. (Bentley did not seem to address this) What a pain. It appears
> that the tranny output flange (tri-point) is now free. Would it have been
> possible to remove the three nuts connected to what I assume are studs in
> the blocking metal ring? Is this the infamous "guibo"?
> 
> 2. I have removed the three copper nuts from the front exhaust downpipe and
> will remove the others this weekend. Once the supports for this section of
> the exhaust are removed will the flanges just separate or do I need some
> persuasion?
> 
> Thanks, Kevin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:51:00 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Engine theory
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

All IC motors have a peak hp characteristic. Is this peak and resultant
drop off, a result (to first order) of the inability of the valves to open
far enough or fast enough to allow more a/f into cylinder beyond that rpm
point or a result of intake volume limitation?

-Kevin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:32:24 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Engine theory
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Engine volumetric efficiency peaks at the peak torque rpm and drops higher 
than that.  As long as rpm rises more than the torque drops, power 
increases.  At high rpm, restriction to flow from the intake system through 
the valves through the exhaust increases and limits the cylinder fill. 
Engine friction also increases.

Air flow per revolution is proportional to torque, ignoring friction.  Air 
flow per time is proportional to power, also ignoring friction.

Gary Derian



> All IC motors have a peak hp characteristic. Is this peak and resultant
> drop off, a result (to first order) of the inability of the valves to open
> far enough or fast enough to allow more a/f into cylinder beyond that rpm
> point or a result of intake volume limitation?
>
> -Kevin



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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:15:39 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Tranny science
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Another basic question, but this time on manual transmissions. It would
seem from the layout of the synchronous transmission that the torque limit
is set by the ability of the "dog gears" and the output shaft splines on
which they slide to withstand the motor torque and tire friction. The
initial shock would seem to be mitigated by the drag of the cone and
synchros accelerating the output shaft to speed.
The dog gears don't seem to be as beefy as the driven gears but I don't
know.

Also, what is it that holds the shifter/selector rod in place once a gear
is selected?

Hadda ask,
-Kevin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:35:36 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tranny science
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The slider thingy that engage the dogs at each gear have spring loaded 
detents that hold them in.

Transmission torque limitation is usually the output shaft just past first 
gear, this part takes the most torque, and first gear multiplies engine 
torque the most.  Transmission longevity has more factors such as the 
quality and strength of the gears and bearings.  Some parts fail from 
fatigue, some from wear, and others from a hole shot with slicks.

Impact loads from harsh shifts are higher than straight engine torque.

Gary Derian


> Another basic question, but this time on manual transmissions. It would
> seem from the layout of the synchronous transmission that the torque limit
> is set by the ability of the "dog gears" and the output shaft splines on
> which they slide to withstand the motor torque and tire friction. The
> initial shock would seem to be mitigated by the drag of the cone and
> synchros accelerating the output shaft to speed.
> The dog gears don't seem to be as beefy as the driven gears but I don't
> know.
>
> Also, what is it that holds the shifter/selector rod in place once a gear
> is selected?
>
> Hadda ask,
> -Kevin
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:16:20 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Tranny science
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

yep - that's why the CTS-V has been in the shop for a week waiting for a new
tranny.....

Marco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:36 PM
To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Tranny science


The slider thingy that engage the dogs at each gear have spring loaded
detents that hold them in.

Transmission torque limitation is usually the output shaft just past first
gear, this part takes the most torque, and first gear multiplies engine
torque the most.  Transmission longevity has more factors such as the
quality and strength of the gears and bearings.  Some parts fail from
fatigue, some from wear, and others from a hole shot with slicks.

Impact loads from harsh shifts are higher than straight engine torque.

Gary Derian


> Another basic question, but this time on manual transmissions. It would
> seem from the layout of the synchronous transmission that the torque limit
> is set by the ability of the "dog gears" and the output shaft splines on
> which they slide to withstand the motor torque and tire friction. The
> initial shock would seem to be mitigated by the drag of the cone and
> synchros accelerating the output shaft to speed.
> The dog gears don't seem to be as beefy as the driven gears but I don't
> know.
>
> Also, what is it that holds the shifter/selector rod in place once a gear
> is selected?
>
> Hadda ask,
> -Kevin
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> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:35:00 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Tranny science
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There must be a good story there.
Gary Derian



> yep - that's why the CTS-V has been in the shop for a week waiting for a 
> new
> tranny.....
>
> Marco
>
> The slider thingy that engage the dogs at each gear have spring loaded
> detents that hold them in.
>
> Transmission torque limitation is usually the output shaft just past first
> gear, this part takes the most torque, and first gear multiplies engine
> torque the most.  Transmission longevity has more factors such as the
> quality and strength of the gears and bearings.  Some parts fail from
> fatigue, some from wear, and others from a hole shot with slicks.
>
> Impact loads from harsh shifts are higher than straight engine torque.
>
> Gary Derian



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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:26:01 -0700
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[email protected]>
Subject: Costco Towels/Car Drying
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Richard Sperry Wrote:

>  I would only use them (Costco Towels) for cleaning windows.
> There is a very big difference in microfiber towels. The ones from
> Costco will leave a lot of scratchs on your paint. I detail, and KNOW.

I've been using an electric leaf blower years to dry the cars.  They get 
about 90% of the water off then a quick wipe with a soft 100% cotton towel 
gets the car completly dry.

Kevin Kelly
BMW CCA 50039



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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:08:57 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Costco Towels/Car Drying
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That is exactly what I do.  I also use it to blow the water off the brakes 
and engine.  Nothing worse than water spots on the intake plenum.
Gary Derian



>
> I've been using an electric leaf blower years to dry the cars.  They get 
> about 90% of the water off then a quick wipe with a soft 100% cotton towel 
> gets the car completly dry.
>
> Kevin Kelly
> BMW CCA 50039



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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:34:50 -0500
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: <E30> adjustable camber plates
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I realize this is similar to asking what's a good tire, but I would 
appreciate some comments and recommendations for adjustable camber 
plates.  I must stop destroying the outer edge of the tires so quickly 
at DE events.

The car is an '87 325is w/Bilsteins, H&R race springs, and M3 control 
arm bushings.

TIA

Clarence
West Bend, WI

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Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:11:39 -0400
From: CsWs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Clarence,

I'd look at the motor-force plates http://www.motor-force.com/products.html. 
I've heard good things about them.

-- 
Karl 
#747KP
http://www.elephantmotorsports.com

On 8/12/05, Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realize this is similar to asking what's a good tire, but I would
> appreciate some comments and recommendations for adjustable camber
> plates.  I must stop destroying the outer edge of the tires so quickly
> at DE events.
> 
> The car is an '87 325is w/Bilsteins, H&R race springs, and M3 control
> arm bushings.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Clarence
> West Bend, WI
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]


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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:01:08 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd:  F/S 1998 BMW 740il
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

FYI.  Contact Justin directly.

- Mark
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check out my JustRacing Home Page at:
http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:36 AM
Subject: [PDC] OT: F/S 1998 BMW 740il

1998 BMW 740il
Sport Package
Every Available option - 6 disk changer, 18" BMW wheels, sun shades,  
etc...
New tires
All service complete
Black / Tan
$14,250

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
916.798.8893



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