The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 774 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Costco Towels/Car Drying Re: <E30> Engine extraction Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Re: Adjustable Camber Plates
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:36:15 -0400 From: Chris Pawlowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> will you actually adjust them? half the people I know using adjustable plates can never be bothered switching them back and forth.. I went with the cheap quick and easy fixed plates at max negative camber and have been running that way for a year now with no worries.. chris '89 325i - m3 springs, IE camber plates, IE swaybars, 4.10lsd.. '99 z3 2.8 '97 F650 Clarence wrote: > I realize this is similar to asking what's a good tire, but I would > appreciate some comments and recommendations for adjustable camber > plates. I must stop destroying the outer edge of the tires so quickly > at DE events. > > The car is an '87 325is w/Bilsteins, H&R race springs, and M3 control > arm bushings. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:45:38 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chris Pawlowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Going w/the fixed plates is something I've considered. While I've never seen people adjusting camber at the track that doesn't mean they haven't done it before coming to the track. My concern w/fixed plates is excessive tire wear during non-track season. Also, I run snow tires about 4 months of the year. Clarence West Bend, WI Chris Pawlowicz wrote: > will you actually adjust them? half the people I know using adjustable > plates can never be bothered switching them back and forth.. > > I went with the cheap quick and easy fixed plates at max negative camber > and have been running that way for a year now with no worries.. > > chris > '89 325i - m3 springs, IE camber plates, IE swaybars, 4.10lsd.. > '99 z3 2.8 > '97 F650 > > Clarence wrote: > >> I realize this is similar to asking what's a good tire, but I would >> appreciate some comments and recommendations for adjustable camber >> plates. I must stop destroying the outer edge of the tires so quickly >> at DE events. >> >> The car is an '87 325is w/Bilsteins, H&R race springs, and M3 control >> arm bushings. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 07:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have seen (and helped) people adjust camber at the track. However, if you do go with fixed plates you can get non-directional snow tires and rotate them side-to-side every oil change; that would even out the wear sufficiently. -tammer --- Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My concern w/fixed plates is excessive tire wear during > non-track > season. Also, I run snow tires about 4 months of the > year. > > Clarence > West Bend, WI ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:06:06 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Evening out wear is more myth than reality in my opinion. If you run off the shoulder with extra negative camber, you aren't ever going to get the tread back and it won't wear any slowly in a different position on the car. It is one thing to put a tire with slight issues (feathering, etc.) and throw it on the rear to not have the problem off of the front. But, I have never been able to "even out the wear". I have adjustable camber/caster plates on my M3, they work perfectly to adjust the camber and the toe going between track use and street use. A little time spent at an alignment shop getting the settings you want for the street and track so all you do is adjust the camber is well worth it. Regards, Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tammer Farid > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] <E30> adjustable camber plates > > > I have seen (and helped) people adjust camber at the track. > However, if you do go with fixed plates you can get > non-directional snow tires and rotate them side-to-side > every oil change; that would even out the wear > sufficiently. > > -tammer > > --- Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My concern w/fixed plates is excessive tire wear during > > non-track > > season. Also, I run snow tires about 4 months of the > > year. > > > > Clarence > > West Bend, WI > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:49:08 -0400 From: Chris Pawlowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4 months of the year? if only I was so lucky!! it's more like 5 or 6 for me :( I left the fixed plates on last winter and my hakka's (with more than a few seasons on them) didn't show any appreciable edge wearing.. but those tires wear like iron so that might have something to do with it. Chris Ottawa, Canada Clarence wrote: > Going w/the fixed plates is something I've considered. While I've never > seen people adjusting camber at the track that doesn't mean they haven't > done it before coming to the track. > > My concern w/fixed plates is excessive tire wear during non-track > season. Also, I run snow tires about 4 months of the year. > > Clarence > West Bend, WI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Impact loads from harsh shifts are higher than straight engine > torque. > > Gary Derian So what's your opinion on removing or replacing the clutch delay valves (CDV) that are installed in some BMWs. My 95 M3 didn't have one and my '98 does and I did notice the difference in shifting, especially into 2nd gear. http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm#Theory%20of%20Operation I was thinking about completely eliminitating the one in my car and while I'm at it installing a stainless steel line going into the clutch slave cylinder. Carlos. ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking about completely eliminitating the one in my car Make that eliminating. Carlos. (been hanging around Karl too much lately) :-D ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:28:26 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Driven well, removing that valve allows the driver to have more control. Enough control to damage the transmission if he wants. What is the purpose of the SS clutch hose? Gary Derian > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Impact loads from harsh shifts are higher than straight engine >> torque. >> >> Gary Derian > > So what's your opinion on removing or replacing the clutch delay valves > (CDV) that are installed in some BMWs. My 95 M3 didn't have one and my > '98 does and I did notice the difference in shifting, especially into > 2nd gear. > > http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm#Theory%20of%20Operation > > I was thinking about completely eliminitating the one in my car and > while I'm at it installing a stainless steel line going into the clutch > slave cylinder. > > Carlos. > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:33:01 -0400 From: CsWs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 8/13/05, Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Driven well, removing that valve allows the driver to have more control. > Enough control to damage the transmission if he wants. > > What is the purpose of the SS clutch hose? > > Gary Derian Are you suggesting he learn how to shift better? SS hose is another part he can waste $$ and time on when he should be stripping out his E30 and building it for Spec E30. :-P Karl The best speeler on the net! ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:05:31 -0700 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Costco Towels/Car Drying Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:26:01AM -0700, Kevin Kelly wrote: > > I've been using an electric leaf blower years to dry the cars. They > get about 90% of the water off then a quick wipe with a soft 100% > cotton towel gets the car completly dry. So what kind of intake filter do you use on your leaf blower? It would kinda suck if a june bug or even a fly got pulled in and its guts blown all over your clean car. -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 09:39:26 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E30> Engine extraction Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, Whit already correctly answered your questions, but just to beat a dead horse: The rubber donut thingie is more correctly called a flex disc. Or disk. I'm never sure when to use a "c" and when to use a "k". Anyway, I believe it was Neil Deshpande who gave a long dissertation once on how it is spelled "giubo" and not "guibo", although I have used guibo for decades. The metal ring is some kind of balancer. Everyone I know (myself included) who has removed it can tell no difference. You can see what you're bolting much easier without it. Put your floor jack under the catalytic converter, with a block of wood to spread the load over the cat's can (note that this is different than a cat scan, despite similar spelling). Once the nuts are off, lower the jack. Then you'll find out if the pipes rusted themselves in place. The couple of times I did this, the pipes came loose pretty easily. You might find, like I did, that one or more studs come out with the nuts. I was cheap and just put them back in later, as if they were bolts. Brett or Gary or someone will tell me that this was the wrong thing to do, I'm sure. Probably a violation of the "lake test" rule. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:46:32 -0700 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [email protected] >Subject: <E30> Engine extraction >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Two questions on the E30 engine removal: > >1. I removed the three bolts from the driveshaft which were shielded by a >large ring. (Bentley did not seem to address this) What a pain. It appears >that the tranny output flange (tri-point) is now free. Would it have been >possible to remove the three nuts connected to what I assume are studs in >the blocking metal ring? Is this the infamous "guibo"? > >2. I have removed the three copper nuts from the front exhaust downpipe and >will remove the others this weekend. Once the supports for this section of >the exhaust are removed will the flanges just separate or do I need some >persuasion? > >Thanks, Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:16:29 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I may have been out of the business for a while but this one tipped my "bullshit" meter. AFAIK, or can remember, the "sport package" wasn't available until '99 or 2000 and not on the long-wheelbase Sevens until 2001 and even then it didn't include either the sport suspension calibration (it used EDC rather than M-sport suspension) or the fantastic sport seats or even the lower final drive ratio. I think it had the James Bond wheels, shadowline trim, and a bunch of wood trim...how sporty! This car can be nothing more than a standard 740iL in 1998 though and any 18" wheel would have been a later addition and not a factory option. Who knows what suspension mods this car might have but it's not likely a factory sport package. YMMV. -Phil >Mark Dadgar wrote: > >Begin forwarded message: >Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:36 AM >Subject: [PDC] OT: F/S 1998 BMW 740il > >1998 BMW 740il >Sport Package >Every Available option - 6 disk changer, 18" BMW wheels, sun shades, >etc... >New tires >All service complete >Black / Tan >$14,250 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:34:24 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phil, the individual selling the car is above reproach ethically and well known in the racing community out here in the sf bay area. any mischaracterization of the vehicle was purely unintentional. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Marx Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il I may have been out of the business for a while but this one tipped my "bullshit" meter. AFAIK, or can remember, the "sport package" wasn't available until '99 or 2000 and not on the long-wheelbase Sevens until 2001 and even then it didn't include either the sport suspension calibration (it used EDC rather than M-sport suspension) or the fantastic sport seats or even the lower final drive ratio. I think it had the James Bond wheels, shadowline trim, and a bunch of wood trim...how sporty! This car can be nothing more than a standard 740iL in 1998 though and any 18" wheel would have been a later addition and not a factory option. Who knows what suspension mods this car might have but it's not likely a factory sport package. YMMV. -Phil >Mark Dadgar wrote: > >Begin forwarded message: >Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:36 AM >Subject: [PDC] OT: F/S 1998 BMW 740il > >1998 BMW 740il >Sport Package >Every Available option - 6 disk changer, 18" BMW wheels, sun shades, >etc... >New tires >All service complete >Black / Tan >$14,250 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:53:48 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fwd: F/S 1998 BMW 740il Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Aug 13, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Marco Romani wrote: > the individual selling the car is above reproach ethically and well > known in > the racing community out here in the sf bay area. any > mischaracterization > of the vehicle was purely unintentional. Marco beat me to it. Seconded. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:29:48 -0400 From: "Mel Abrahams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Adjustable Camber Plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You may want to contact Ireland Engineering: www.bmw2002.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:34:50 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: <E30> adjustable camber plates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I realize this is similar to asking what's a good tire, but I would appreciate some comments and recommendations for adjustable camber plates. I must stop destroying the outer edge of the tires so quickly at DE events. The car is an '87 325is w/Bilsteins, H&R race springs, and M3 control arm bushings. TIA Clarence West Bend, WI _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
