It's not what's said that's usually the problem; it's the way in which it's said. What's the point of saying something in a mean, nasty way when it can be said civilly? There's too much meanness in the world as it is without us adding to it. I agree with the person who said something along the lines of, you don't win people over by yelling at them. Never did, never will. Kerry M.
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: list matters And let us also remember, that when you say its our list, that "our" includes Glenda and Susan as well. I believe, as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people. I don't think anyone here has the right to try and silence anyone else on this list. We all have opinions, and we're all entitled to share those opinions whether you like them or agree with them or not. I'm relatively new to the group, I'll admit, but you lose your fundamental credibility when you start trying to silence certain people because you don't agree with them. Look, I think many of us, some of whom are too shy to speak out, are horrified at the thought of a shelter declawing all their cats and mixing positives. So I don't think its fair to single out Glenda and Susan. Opinionated they may be, but they have every right to voice that opinion, just like the people who defend toe amputation. -----Original Message----- From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 26 1:57 AM Subject: list matters I think it's pretty out in the open now. Susan and Glenda tend to judge others on the list. This is OUR list. We can ignore and correct misinformation when it comes from anyone. This has always been THE most supportive and informative list I have ever been on. Let's not lose the list due to a few people. tonya Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WHATEVER!!! I am sorry that this has come to what it is.do you think everything you do is perfect!!?? Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, THAT rant was intended for one person on this list. However, let me just tell you this, if a REPUTABLE, ETHICAL vet in the area finds out what this woman is doing, they will most likely have AC on her. When you start running out of room to separate your diseases, you stop intake. period. You do not begin to "mix" them. That is basic shelter 101. And no, it never feels good to know that you cannot help them all. However, she could take some of that money that she is using to declaw cats and build another room, hence, separating her diseases. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com <http://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/> www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org <http://www.tx.siameserescue.org/> www.shadowcats.net <http://www.shadowcats.net/> "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Dubose <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.! This "shelter"mixes felv+ cats w/ fiv+ cats,due to lack of space to separate..! Read below......... What kind of hellhole is this? It's called "crash landing" PLease do not forward.......... _____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTF hN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ--> on Yahoo! Travel. _____ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail <http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/index.htm?nc id=AOLAOF00020000000970> ! _____________________________________________________________________________ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.