Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 9:40 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrot

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 2:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno M

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:23 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/23/2013 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supre

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:40 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/22/2013 11:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb >> wrote: >> >> On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM,

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:00 AM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 23 Nov 2013, at 07:42, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:55, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 23 Nov 2013, at 05:00, meekerdb wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/22/2013 11:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb > wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:55, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/22/2013 5:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 22 Nov 2013, at 19:36, Richard Ruquist wrote: The New Scientist article that Liz linked says essentially that crises happen when workers outnumber the available jobs especially elite jobs: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming.html#.U

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I vary from filthy rich to excessively rich. But for this group, I toned it down. I think history speaks for itself. Richard On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:39 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Thanks, Richard, excellent reverberation. I just frown when I read "rich" > - who are they? lately the word "milliona

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Thanks, Richard, excellent reverberation. I just frown when I read "rich" - who are they? lately the word "millionaire" lost it's taste: with a middle-class family home of - say - 700K value and some cash set aside: an average retiree is a millionaire. Billionaire is not so easy: there is a gap i

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

The New Scientist article that Liz linked says essentially that crises happen when workers outnumber the available jobs especially elite jobs: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming.html#.Uo-iDdK-qFA Turchin has found what he believes to be his

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 Nov 2013, at 22:53, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno, The rich have been trying to take over the US govt to reduce their tax burden for over 100 years. Every time they have succeeded the result has been an economic crash usually followed by war. That happened in 1857 after a decade of

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 22 Nov 2013, at 14:38, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Cou

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution > when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule > laws made by Con

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 Nov 2013, at 18:55, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: Telmo wrote: "I admire the US c

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM, LizR wrote: > Sorry, you did so!!! > > I can only apologise. I must try not to do so much housework and stuff, I > need to spend longer checking what I'm replying to! :) I just saw what you > said and thought - that's odd - and then a whole conversation kicked off

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It was this one: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming.html#.Uo6MecSVPB4 On 22 November 2013 11:39, Richard Ruquist wrote: > I stopped my NS subscription last year. > Do you recall anything I can Google? > I'll try 'the mathematics of cr

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I stopped my NS subscription last year. Do you recall anything I can Google? I'll try 'the mathematics of crashes' Yes. That works: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html#.Uo6HTNK-qFA But this may be better: http://www.theguardi

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Hi Richard, There was an article in New Scientist recently about a mathematician who claims to have a theory which says roughly what you are saying - do you know anything about that? It sounds a bit like "the railways would run on time if it wasn't for the passengers!" -- or in this case, "the ca

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

Bruno, The rich have been trying to take over the US govt to reduce their tax burden for over 100 years. Every time they have succeeded the result has been an economic crash usually followed by war. That happened in 1857 after a decade of prosperity and then the crash was followed by the Civil

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

Sorry, you did so!!! I can only apologise. I must try not to do so much housework and stuff, I need to spend longer checking what I'm replying to! :) I just saw what you said and thought - that's odd - and then a whole conversation kicked off as a result. My problem is I hardly ever have time to a

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM, LizR wrote: > On 22 November 2013 03:38, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:54 AM, LizR wrote: >>> >>> OK, fair enough. I wouldn't have said anything more if you'd said it was >>> a joke after I made my first comment, but since you gave an explana

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On 22 November 2013 03:38, Jason Resch wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:54 AM, LizR wrote: > >> OK, fair enough. I wouldn't have said anything more if you'd said it was >> a joke after I made my first comment, but since you gave an explanation, I >> assumed you were serious. I mean, obviously

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: Telmo wrote: "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possib

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:54 AM, LizR wrote: > OK, fair enough. I wouldn't have said anything more if you'd said it was a > joke after I made my first comment, but since you gave an explanation, I > assumed you were serious. I mean, obviously it was a flippant comparison > but I thought there was

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 11/21/2013 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutional. As a res

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 Nov 2013, at 13:41, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 21 Nov 2013, at 11:05, Telmo Menezes wrote: If nobody complains on his local decentralized power, the central power should have nothing to say, but if the locals complain about their

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: > > Telmo wrote: > > > > *"I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is > essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for > **peaceful > world with

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2013, at 11:05, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: >>> >>> Telmo wrote: >>> >>> "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2013, at 15:50, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: >> >> Telmo wrote: >> >> >> >> *"I admire the US constitution too. In fact,

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 Nov 2013, at 11:05, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: Telmo wrote: "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibil

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: > > Telmo wrote: > > "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is > essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for > peaceful world with further in

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM, LizR wrote: > OK, fair enough. I wouldn't have said anything more if you'd said it was a > joke after I made my first comment, but since you gave an explanation, I > assumed you were serious. I mean, obviously it was a flippant comparison but > I thought there was

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:20, Richard Ruquist wrote: Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutional. As a result the USA is essentially ruled by the Supr

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:35, John Mikes wrote: Telmo wrote: "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for peaceful world with further increases in freedom)." Which Constitution? the one epoch-opening ch

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OK, fair enough. I wouldn't have said anything more if you'd said it was a joke after I made my first comment, but since you gave an explanation, I assumed you were serious. I mean, obviously it was a flippant comparison but I thought there was a serious intention behind it, which I didn't think ca

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM, LizR wrote: > On 21 November 2013 20:55, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> > My point is that you used a bad comparison. There is no reasonable >> > comparison between the King of England at the time and wizards and >> > drgaons, >> >> It was a joke... >> > Right, go

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On 21 November 2013 20:55, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > My point is that you used a bad comparison. There is no reasonable > > comparison between the King of England at the time and wizards and > drgaons, > > It was a joke... > > Right, gotcha. I won't ask you to explain why it was funny, because

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:50 AM, LizR wrote: > > > > On 21 November 2013 12:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: >> > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, >> >> >> >> Goo

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On 11/20/2013 5:14 PM, Russell Standish wrote: There is always the possibility that the lawmakers (in this case congress) will create a law that is fundamentally in contradiction with the established corpus of constitutional law. It is only right that there exists a body whose role it is to test

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There is always the possibility that the lawmakers (in this case congress) will create a law that is fundamentally in contradiction with the established corpus of constitutional law. It is only right that there exists a body whose role it is to test that. In our country, it is the High Court - my g

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On 21 November 2013 12:49, wrote: > Freedom via 3D manufacture. Liberation through material wealth! > A global village, yeah, that's my general outlook too, although we have to get rid of that pesky little problem of slavery* that currently provides most of our material goods in the West, and ma

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On 21 November 2013 12:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> > >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, > >> > >> Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? > >> >

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Freedom via 3D manufacture. Liberation through material wealth! -Original Message- From: Telmo Menezes To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 6:29 pm Subject: Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Te

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K was surpassing the US in personal freedoms, and didn't have that pesky little problem of slavery, as an actual menace by then. -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 6:07 pm Subject: Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution On 21 November 2013 11:37, Tel

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM, LizR wrote: > On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, >> >> Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? >> > Weird comment. The King of England was only, in their view, an i

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

On 21 November 2013 11:37, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > who just did not want to pay taxes to the King of England, > > Good on them. What next? Pay taxes to wizards and dragons? > > Weird comment. The King of England was only, in their view, an inappropriate subject to pay taxes to because they were

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

Hi John, On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:35 PM, John Mikes wrote: > Telmo wrote: > > "I admire the US constitution too. In fact, my political position is > essentially to follow it (although I like to imagine possibilities for > peaceful world with further increases in freedom)." > > Which Constitution

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-Original Message- From: Richard Ruquist To: everything-list Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:20 pm Subject: Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule laws made by Congress and signed by

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Thanks, Richard, - very educative! John M On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution > when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule > laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutiona

Re: Telmo On the US COnstitution

Chief Supreme Court Justice Marshall usurped the Constitution when he maintained that the Supreme Court had the right to rule laws made by Congress and signed by the President unconstitutional. As a result the USA is essentially ruled by the Supreme Court There is no provision in the US Constitut