On 2014-06-28, Kenneth Westerback wrote:
> On 28 June 2014 13:55, frank ernest wrote:
>> Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
>> a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
>> programs and the systemd dev
2014-06-29 13:40 GMT+02:00 Antoine Jacoutot :
> So first you comment on Ian's GSoC and now on systemd... thai is confusing.
> I don't care about systemd we will never have it. We just need some
> interfaces
> that are currently only implemented in systemd.
This is the
Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
programs and the systemd devs are not concerned about it. I, as a single
person, can't possibly hope to maintain the old sysVinit system and
On 28 June 2014 13:55, frank ernest wrote:
> Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
> a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
> programs and the systemd devs are not concerned about it. I, as a single
> person,
2014-06-29 1:05 GMT+02:00 ian kremlin :
>> that bsd is being crowded out, a thought that had not crossed my mind.
>> I wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do
>> people really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so,
>> I'd be
So first you comment on Ian's GSoC and now on systemd... thai is confusing. I
don't care about systemd we will never have it. We just need some interfaces
that are currently only implemented in systemd.
Eric Furman wrote:
>My real helpful comments are that it violates every re
Em 28-06-2014 20:39, Stuart Henderson escreveu:
> Even a significant number of Linux users I've talked to about it really
> don't like systemd.
Hate it. Made all my linux based systems slower.
>
> Just looking at the pid 1 part and ignoring the rest, there are way too
>
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There
> is either something wrong with the web page or firefox as it mentions
> that the connection was reset while the page was loading. However,
> I've used
you probably caught me in the middle of a reboot
>
experiments, because I would need to migrate a machine, I had installed
Debian Woody on a long time ago and then just dist-upgraded whenever
needed over the years. I just learnt the wonders of systemd and a really
nifty out of memory killer not giving my application any chance to
detect, that it is
> that bsd is being crowded out, a thought that had not crossed my mind.
> I wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do
> people really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so,
> I'd be interested in doing something about it. Thanks, David
On 29 Jun 2014, at 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
> discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
> understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
First of all
Ok then my counter argument will be: second of all, this is misc@
Franco Fichtner wrote:
>On 29 Jun 2014, at 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
>> Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
>> discuss since we do not want and will never ha
On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:55, frank ernest wrote:
> wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do people
> really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so, I'd be
> interested in doing something about it. Thanks, David
A fact is that systemd slowly
There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
Devuan - Debian without systemD
Parabola - Arch without systemD
Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier installed files.
Like wajig integrity (debsums) in Devuan.
More info about verification:
https
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 08:46:27PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Was reading http://boycottsystemd.org/ and they wrote:
> >
> > "The OpenBSD Foundation is currently developing OS-agnostic, BSD-licensed
> > replacements <http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc20
What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
i...@aulix.com wrote:
> There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
> Devuan - Debian without systemD
> Parabola - Arch without systemD
>
> Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier ins
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 10:38:22PM -0400, bofh wrote:
> Was reading http://boycottsystemd.org/ and they wrote:
>
> "The OpenBSD Foundation is currently developing OS-agnostic, BSD-licensed
> replacements <http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd>,
> which
Hi,
Jorge Gabriel Lopez Paramount wrote:
I'm in the middle of leaving Debian after almost 15 years of using it, due to
the systemd affair. And as you might guess it has not been easy, I have enough
(personal) systems and experience invested to leave Debian only for a tantrum,
but there
On 6/30/2014 19:31, frank ernest wrote:
> If I'm posting to the wrong bsd list kindly redirect me to the correct
> one, I thought misc was best. >
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There is
According to the page about the project on the Google Su
as pgroups do not
this is a question of policy, not api:
1. if a program double-forks, that program has made it clear that it
does not need the destructors scripted in "systemd implementation",
and is eligible for being terminated by the generic, all-encompasing,
sysv killall(), linux k
hi!
i'm a student working on four DBus daemons that emulate the behavior of
systemd ones as to allow porting code that depends on systemd less of a
hassle
i've set up gitweb to track my progress, you can find it here:
https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;
t
"One could easily poke holes in this complaint; the characterization
of PAM as "modern" is somewhat amusing; it is 1990s technology."
Dafuk. If he's going to nitpick, then so am I. Marc did not say PAM
was modern. He mentioned a modern Linux distro with pulseaudio, p
> that doesn't make the slightest sense.
>
> "pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
those were not the right words, i meant to convey that because systemd
uses its own DBus binding (and not an already-ported lib like
GIO/GDbus) it would be difficult to port, as t
My real helpful comments are that it violates every real concept of UNIX
Do ONE thing and do it WELL
Systemd does none of these things.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014, at 04:51 AM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen
Was reading http://boycottsystemd.org/ and they wrote:
"The OpenBSD Foundation is currently developing OS-agnostic, BSD-licensed
replacements <http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd>,
which will likely prove the most viable."
Is this even something that's b
bian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> > being considered as 'much better' and 'mandatory'.
>
> Because systemd is good enough "base tools suite". Think of it as a base
> system like OpenBSD provides. It has a _lot_ of issues w
If I'm posting to the wrong bsd list kindly redirect me to the correct
one, I thought misc was best. >
https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There is
either something wrong with the web page or firefox as it mentions that
the connection was reset while the page was
> Was reading http://boycottsystemd.org/ and they wrote:
>
> "The OpenBSD Foundation is currently developing OS-agnostic, BSD-licensed
> replacements <http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd>,
> which will likely prove the most viable."
>
>
> I intend to produce the four systemd utilities as outlined on the
OpenBSD Foundation's web page, ... This seems unclear to me what you are
refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far as
I could see, any software specs/ideas. And, though this sounds quite
pre
ars with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning,
> > > then
> > > Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> > > being considered as 'much better' and 'mandatory'.
> >
> > Because systemd is good eno
ars with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning,
> > > then
> > > Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> > > being considered as 'much better' and 'mandatory'.
> >
> > Because systemd is good
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
Consus wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > exhibited incompatibilities with basically all historical
> > interfaces, and had introdu
i915drmfb frame buffer device
[5.706763] PM: Image not found (code -22)
[5.855228] EXT4-fs (sda1): orphan cleanup on readonly fs
[5.855661] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem
c6f79696-79f9-455
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
> Consus wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > >
On 06/29/14 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
Gustav Fransson Nyvell wrote:
Hello misc!
I have some information for rspamd users, and one question.
As you may know, rspamd not using pyzor by directly calling pyzor binary.
Instead, they say, you need to create special systemd socket, and call
pyzor through it.
It is described on rspamd manuals:
https://rspamd.com
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen-gdbus-interfaces.sh;h=f827434d0211ea8765c075fdb2916386ffc16ecb;hb=HEAD
>
> btw. it's bashism in a posix shell suit?
If that is all you were able to spot then move along :-)
It's very pre
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-4C-HLN4F.cfm
# OpenBSD 6.3 on SuperMicro SYS-E200-9A
/usr/bin/ssh ADMIN@192.168.1.2
ATEN SMASH-CLP System Management Shell, version 1.05
Copyright (c) 2008-2009 by ATEN International CO., Ltd.
All Rights Reserved
-> cd /system1/sol1
/s
Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
Gustav Fransson Nyvell wrote:
>On 06/29/14 13:09, bodie wrote:
>> On
system’s newfangled orchestration service, systemd."
>
As if I needed another reason to intensely dislike systemd...
--
Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict
I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
y tried a
search but your name (ian kermlin) is on none of the projects (which is
highly confusing.) Here, I'll post a link for you; is it:
http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd ? Thanks, David
PS: As you requested I've cloned the repo
git://uglyman.kremlin.cc/git/system
st 15 years of using it, due to
the systemd affair. And as you might guess it has not been easy, I have enough
(personal) systems and experience invested to leave Debian only for a tantrum,
but there is no easy way to install a new system and avoid systemd, and I guess
this will become worse over
I says quite clearly in the second article you posted it can only work
in Linux...
"...Linux distributions add a patch to link sshd to systemd, a program
that loads a variety of services during the system bootup. Systemd, in
turn, links to liblzma, and this allows xz Utils to exert control
.raw
# mkdir cloud-init
# cat meta-data < user-data < /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf
* systemctl disable cloud-init
* poweroff
# vmctl start "fedora" -d /home/fedora.raw -m 2G -c -L -i 1
- vmm boot & dmesg/systemd stuff
# vmctl start "fedora" -d /home/fed
On 2022-05-02, kasak wrote:
> Hello misc!
>
> I have some information for rspamd users, and one question.
>
> As you may know, rspamd not using pyzor by directly calling pyzor binary.
>
> Instead, they say, you need to create special systemd socket, and call
> pyz
the first place. The only thing systemd does is hits
> the controlling process on the head with a known conf-reload signal or
> (gasp) a DBus control statement. Both of these can be done just as
> well with an rc script, and without restarting the service.
What systemd has to do with anyt
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
[...] It is not like systemd that is replacing an existing system
in a more complex way.
I think, initialisation got always more complex. BSD init is simpler
than Sys V init, systemd went to the extrem. But rc scripts seem
also got always more
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, then
> Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the cra
Oh yeah, systemd. The new and improved init replacement.
It sure looks less complex,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#mediaviewer/File:Systemd_components.svg
Yeah, I know about net.ifnames=0, but that just gets you back
to the ethX paradigm. So very "helpful" in a very generic
me to a group of processes, in
a hierarchal, secure way*. And you cannot emulate this. (And no, don't
say "BSD jail" now, because that is something very different). But
this already is at the very core of systemd. It's how systemd tracks
services."
how can someone wr
ter all. If you
can you use the commandline and especially have root acces then this
should be very easy. If not, you will simply configure and reboot.
Lets hope this doesn't become a problem with the take-up of cgroups and
monstrous sized /sbin/init or the rediculously
placed /usr/lib/systemd/
Am 02.05.22 19:06 schrieb kasak:
> Hello misc!
>
> I have some information for rspamd users, and one question.
>
> As you may know, rspamd not using pyzor by directly calling pyzor binary.
>
> Instead, they say, you need to create special systemd socket, and call pyzor
>
't usually get the facts right.
I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning,
then Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the
crap being considered as 'much
> And my complicated pass is typed in FR, and run correctly.
>
> The problem is with GDM, despite the locale.conf and session gnome seted.
On GNOME, kbd locale support is handled by... systemd.
It is documented in the package by the way.
Extract from /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/gnom
ernel memory: 1516K
[1.574477] Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 14336k
[1.575309] Freeing unused kernel memory: 1680K
[1.575933] Freeing unused kernel memory: 96K
Lo[1.579399] random: udevadm: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes
read, 3 bits of entropy available)
[
1.552391] registered taskstats version 1
> [1.552987] Loading compiled-in X.509 certificates
> [1.553812] Loaded X.509 cert 'Build time autogenerated kernel key:
> b3e0fe4bcd6378c38a2c0a4648abbc1fa5043a22'
> [1.555133] zswap: loaded using pool lzo/zbud
&
ates
> [ 1.553812] Loaded X.509 cert 'Build time autogenerated kernel key:
> b3e0fe4bcd6378c38a2c0a4648abbc1fa5043a22'
> [ 1.555133] zswap: loaded using pool lzo/zbud
> [ 1.556274] Key type trusted registered
> [ 1.557544] Key type encrypted registered
>
known as the broken audio system for Linux (see comment in the above
article about how it's not _his_ fault), and "systemd", a replacement for init
that adds cron and inetd functionality in one package, including "systemctl"
for back-end control (not to be confused with
3206] raid6: using algorithm avx2x4 gen() 15116 MB/s
[4.025625] raid6: xor() 7880 MB/s, rmw enabled
[4.027862] raid6: using avx2x2 recovery algorithm
[4.031653] xor: automatically using best checksumming function avx
[4.042987] async_tx: api initialized (async)
[
secure way*. And you cannot emulate this. (And no, don't
> say "BSD jail" now, because that is something very different). But
> this already is at the very core of systemd. It's how systemd tracks
> services."
>
> how can someone write this and not explain why a p
.
>>
>> Instead, they say, you need to create special systemd socket, and call pyzor
>> through it.
>>
>> It is described on rspamd manuals:
>> https://rspamd.com/doc/modules/external_services.html#pyzor-specific-details
>>
>> OpenBSD does not has s
the first place. The only thing systemd does is hits
the controlling process on the head with a known conf-reload signal or
(gasp) a DBus control statement. Both of these can be done just as
well with an rc script, and without restarting the service.
What systemd has to do with anything? We are tal
k,inode64)
cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup type cgroup2
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate,memory_recursiveprot)
pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
bpf on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type
ger
> picture. Isn't systemd doing one thing and doing it well? Sure, it's
> opaque, I guess
Not at all and I could write pages about how damaging it is but won't.
I'm successfully abandoning Linux on everything but my TVs and phone
(one day, them too I expect).
Syste
I would prefer to begin from grsecurity, but it is not available up to date for
my budget.
I would also try HardenedBSD, but it is only amd64 now? And how many active
developers there are? one or two?
OpenBSD looks as the only viable option for me right now, may be one another is
a systemd
not been taken over by
>> "corporate" if they wanted to.
>>
>> Cheap digs don't usually get the facts right.
>>
> I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the begin
o its knees.
Think about why Linus is so much in rage mood this year against various
devs from RedHat and yet can do shit about them because he's no longer
in control and he knows it. No wonder he choose to focus more on on-line
Linux courses under Linuxfoundation (he will not have so mu
03.05.2022 11:38, Stuart Henderson пишет:
On 2022-05-02, kasak wrote:
Hello misc!
I have some information for rspamd users, and one question.
As you may know, rspamd not using pyzor by directly calling pyzor binary.
Instead, they say, you need to create special systemd socket, and call
foundation (he will not have
so much time for kernel during those for sure).
Systemd does none of these things.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014, at 04:51 AM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen-gdbus-interfaces.sh;h=f827434d0211e
There are already enough funny pages about systemd technical deviations, e.g.:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3427
nce install OpenBSD.
>> And my complicated pass is typed in FR, and run correctly.
>>
>> The problem is with GDM, despite the locale.conf and session gnome seted.
> On GNOME, kbd locale support is handled by... systemd.
>
> It is documented in the package by the way.
>
he window of investigating your gadget layout is as
insignificant as it can be. Doing it another way only increases that
risk.
> I also avoid to start deamons at boot time that I not need
> at the moment. See it as the opposite of the systemd ideology.
Fair enough but doesn't apply here
zed /sbin/init or the rediculously
> placed /usr/lib/systemd/systemd to cater/replace needlessly monstrously
> sized linux initscripts. It would be really annoying if ps output became
> needlessly dynamic but I guess any packages that decides to do that
> probably won't be worth runn
itical reasons...
rather than technical, it is doomed. Good time to switch to a
similar distro
with mentally sane leadership, like Devuan. Also what's good about
Devuan :
Devuan does not use SystemDick as its' init system! SystemD contains
1 million
lines of bloated code and lots of vuln
And what about performance?
Is tmpfs or mfs faster? Is one or another more resource hungry?
--
Furthermore, I consider that systemd must be destroyed
Latin oratorical phrase
> You mean systemd!
>
You'd need udev in the core system. And everybody knows daemontools/runit is
the past, present, and future of init systems.
Fluxbox 4 ever.
I use Fluxbox on all platforms Debian, Ubuntu, OpenBSD, FreeBSD since more than
10 years. It has all the functionality I will ever need and fits into a slick
20MB binary. Who needs 4-5GB gnome/kde crapware deeply tied into systemD, soon
you will not even be able to use those
> For starters, there is 100% consensus among developers that we'll never
> use newfangled overengineered stuff like System V init.
>
You mean Upstart!
or wait
You mean systemd!
s the only viable option for me right now, may be one another
> is a systemd free distro like Devuan with a hardened kernel like by @anthrax,
> but I am too unskilled even to understand what are improvements of @anthrax
> kernel for me without a good doc for it in the existence, an
On 6/28/14, Henning Brauer wrote:
> * ian kremlin [2014-06-29 01:05]:
>> due to its unportability (as it's written in pure C)
>
> that doesn't make the slightest sense.
>
> "pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
i took it as sarcasim.
--patrick
> refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far as
http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html
> software that you speak of be portable to Linux or is it BSD only? I've
i am planning (post-GSOC) on writing an archlinux PKGBUILD and
eventually a debian package.
> refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far
as
> http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html Umm, there are at least
24 links on that page to various projects that need done, to which are
you refering?
I managed to resolve this issue with some strange workaround.
I must confess, I dont exactly know which service was handling DNS before, as
NetworkManager and systemd-resolved were both disabled.
/etc/resolv.conf was overwritten by each DHCP request.
So I did the following.
I configured
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:02:06PM +0200, emigrant wrote:
> You're right, probably pflogrotate script is buggy.
>
> root@master[~]ls /var/log/pflog
> ls: /var/log/pflog: No such file or directory
>
> wtf? where is my pflog file? :) interesting, because it worked almost 3 y
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Alexander Schrijver
wrote:
>> For starters, there is 100% consensus among developers that we'll never
>> use newfangled overengineered stuff like System V init.
>>
>
> You mean Upstart!
>
> or wait
>
> You mean systemd!
Or the oddness that is daemontools!!
nimum
security policies it can operate under. i host all of this on my
domain from money out of my college-student pockets. would you like to
see what i sent to my mentors when requesting this project? it's got
UNIX and blind sincerity out the wing-wang. i'm fervently passionate
about
n the speed gain simply isn't required
and the negative sides having not been considered akin to systemd binary
logging.
> But regarding functionality, i would rather
> call it bloated than ask for more features.
Yeah, I think it has all the features required and things like gkrellm
imilar distro
with mentally sane leadership, like Devuan. Also what's good about
Devuan :
Devuan does not use SystemDick as its' init system! SystemD contains
1 million
lines of bloated code and lots of vulnerabilities have been found
there and
countless haven't, also the SystemD
. Hansteen wrote:
>
> "This dependency existed not because of a deliberate design decision
> by the developers of OpenSSH, but because of a kludge added by some
> Linux distributions to integrate the tool with the operating
> system’s newfangled orchestration service, systemd."
* ian kremlin [2014-06-29 01:05]:
> due to its unportability (as it's written in pure C)
that doesn't make the slightest sense.
"pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services GmbH, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP
Secure Ho
text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
(Doug McIlroy)
In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd
___
ms to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
(Doug McIlroy)
In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd
___
Hi,
So the folks over at my webserver is removing its daemonization feature,
telling its users to use systemd/upstart/a process supervisor instead.
But what does this mean to my webserver's startup script in /etc/rc.d, isn't it
dependent on the webserver's ability to daemonize?
>If we are in such dire need of an init system replacement, why has
there not been widespread frenzy as >with schedulers, package managers,
packet filters, programming languages and so forth?
Maybe because people don't seem to think the same thing, or feel the
urgency to replace it. But a dece
ms that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'
(Doug McIlroy)
In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd
___
> Because it's a nice way to apply configuration changes made to
> /etc/sysctl.conf without restarting the whole server?
Systemctl doesn't offer hot reload unless the
controlled daemon offers the capability in
the first place. The only thing systemd does
is hits the contro
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:38 PM Consus wrote:
> It is modular to a degree, but separating services requires a bit of
> work so yeah, in this area systemd sucks. Documentation is pretty good
> though. I don't like the complexity of the thing, but I've never been
> stuc
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:47, wrote:
>
> Is not systemd one of such backdoors? Does it include any interesting
> "features" except so called "init system"?
1) You're asking in the wrong place
2) It's off topic
3) If you need to ask, it means you don&#
ht.
There are worse ways of starting up daemons, like systemd.
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Best regards,
Jorge Lopez.
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4,addr=192.168.0.122,clientaddr=192.168.0.187'
> mount.nfs: mount(2): Protocol not supported
> Created symlink
> /run/systemd/system/remote-fs.target.wants/rpc-statd.service ?
> /usr/lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd.service.
> mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'addr=192.168.
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