nscendental is the conditions for the possibility of knowledge, so a
> matter of knowledge. If knowledge isn´t something, you have to believe in,
> that is.
>
> Best regards, Helmut
>
>
> 22. September 2024 um 20:24 Uhr
> *Von:* "Gary Richmond"
>
> List,
>
>
19, 2024 at 9:35 PM Jerry LR Chandler <
jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com> wrote:
> List:
>
> On Sep 18, 2024, at 6:50 PM, Gary Richmond
> wrote:
>
> I should preface these comments by noting that I consider panentheism to
> be at present an underdeveloped concept.
at 6:28 PM Jon Alan Schmidt
wrote:
> Gary R., List:
>
> I was simply responding to Helmut's statement that he did not understand
> my previous post, which (among other things) sought to correct his
> misinterpretation of Matthew 25:40.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> O
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>>>
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>> guess, that this nonsymmetry of "function" is the basis for the difference
>> between theism and panentheism. Jon, is there the discipline "mathematical
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> that I should have provided some support for my comments - I think the
> reference to Robert Marty’s impressive work ..should suffice.
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erse. Again - is there any reference to this in Peirce?
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>> Edwina
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> text.
>
> All that can be done, in my view, is that we can discuss our different
> views; support them with text AND analysis - and leave it at that. I don’t
> think that anyone should then decide - ah- X
mic Object and just a part of the full informational
>> content of the Real Object - that forms the Immediate Object, and it is
>> this IO data that is transformed by the mediative laws of the Representamen
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ou note - all the energy and matter
> that exist are contained within the universe. The question then moves to
> HOW is this energy/matter organized? The Answer - as a CAS - a complex
> organized system.
>
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>>> any idea that was not anthropomorphic")
>>> JAS, List
>>>
>>> But - Peirce, in 1.412, does indeed very specifically outline how the
>>> three categories ‘come into being’ from No
e-into-modal-being..together, all at once.
>
> So- we’ll have to disagree! But - that’s what discussion permits!
>
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>
> Perhaps we'll never see eye to eye on this, but let me at least
potentiality. Continuity, aa generality, is inherent
> in potentiality, which is essentially general’ 6.204. BUT - my point is
> that ALL THREE Modes are necessarily operating within this emergence of the
> universe. There isn’t any linear first…in their existentiality of being.
>
>
ust
> felt like this). I just wanted to say, that maybe point 2 is true, and in
> that case, maybe there never has been "nothing". I think, the buddhist say
> so, I am not a buddhist, but this their point is worth of taking it into
> the discourse as possibility (type due to
nentheism and theism.
>> I guess, even between theists, there are different ways to define the
>> concept "God". And certainly the concept "nothing": Might well be, that it
>> merely exist for concept in capitalism? (Sorry for that, Edwina, but I just
>&g
premiss [ an apriori
>> belief in a god].
>>
>> JAS - I don’t think you and I are going to get anywhere in this
>> discussion - and don’t see the point of its continuation. You have your way
>> of reading Peirce and I have my way -
>>
>> Edwina
>>
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nization was retarded in growth. …
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>
> Eugene (Gene) Halton, Professor Emeritus (University of Notre Dame), a
> well-known sociologist and philosopher who has written extensively on the
> problematic na
a general interpretation of non-local non-stimuli (vs "a specific actual
>> noun; an individual interpretation of local stimuli as referenced to a
>> general law," when we say of evolution, "That's --in part-- what we mean by
>> God," that continu
aper, "Notes Toward a Definition of Philosophy" (
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/41974893)--reading "the scriptures of the
> tradition" as the basis for properly interpreting "the book of nature." In
> the famous formulation by Anselm of Canterbury (echoing A
he world is God) and panentheism
>(the world is in God).
>
> This is not to say that proponents of pantheism or panentheism--or, for
> that matter, deism or atheism--cannot draw relevant insights from Peirce's
> writings; only that his own position, by his own unambiguous
asis for the validity of
> the method of science in inquiry--it is intrinsically self-correcting in
> the long run.
>
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>
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> before, because I was for the spiritual branch in religions, and against
> the prophetist branch. But the way he puts it, I can accept his limited
> approvement of prophets (leadership).
>
> Best Regards, Helmut
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e ignore its general significance. We neglect the social impulse.
>
> The essence of pragmatism, I would say, lies in grasping not only that
> there is no scientific practice independent of the open system, wherein
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> common) sense, they can find sources online that will reinforce their
> beliefs. Personally i'm not optimistic that semiotics can do much to
> reverse the trend of the Anthropocene. Maybe we can hope tha
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>> to the "if". I added this, because I think, a certain kind of manifestation
>> of the categories is composition (1ns), determination (2ns), and
>> classification (3ns).
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he word 'tone' more
>>> often, mainly in obscure MSS. That is not a ringing endorsement.
>>>
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> about possibility and necessity, but he never used his 1903 modal logic for
> any of that.
>
> Once again, Peirce's logic is at the forefront of 21st C developments.
>
> John
>
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thing from the distant past is revived and becomes
>> a big success. Peirce has an unusually large percentage of successful
>> revivals. His Delta graphs are among them. I recognized their importance,
>> because I have used and worked with similar logics from the late 20th and
e
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> I think that using the participial form gives the correct notion of
> *process* involved in reaching the state of idealism.
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>
> JFS: More mathematicians today follow Cantor than Peirce.
>
> And not only today but in Peirce's day as well. Peirce referred to
> Cantor's conception as a "pseudo-continuum," a "
the list who
question your insistence that 3ns = intentionality. I haven't anything to
add to what Edwina, Mike, and now Jon has written except to note that even
Tom Short in his book on Peire's semeiotic goes no further than to say that
"the intentionality of thought is a special c
Peircean
Informational Perspective: Contributions to Biosemiotics; L.F. Barbosa da
Silveira, M.E. Quilici Gonzalez.- 8. The Life of Symbols and Other
Legisigns: More than a mere Metaphor?; W. Nöth.- 9. Signs without Minds; J.
Collier.- 10. Dicent Symbols and Proto-propositions in Biological Mimicry;
J.
onsiderable
interest -- and I know that you aren't either, Jon. But I'd be most
interested in what you or others on the List might think regarding the
generalization of Peirce's furthest thinking as regards propositions into
the natural world.
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length that which was succinctly -- albeit abstractly
-- posited in that single sentence I just added emphasis to above. As
usual, quotations and examples proved extremely helpful.
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>
> G
hts. It leads to the
recognition that every name in a proposition is a subject that indexically
denotes one of its objects, while its syntax is the pure predicate that
iconically signifies its interpretant as the general form of their logical
relations
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g useful." John seems to be basically advocating ignoring
anything that Peirce wrote unless it is somehow relevant to "the latest
developments in cognitive science." Doing so suggests that he is employing
the methods of tenacity and authority rather than the method of science.
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I do not know Edna Andrew's work in this area.
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es which interest them
and which they see potential value in pursuing. To suggest otherwise is to
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thout science is blind. They are
interdependent and have a common goal—the search for truth."
"Through my pursuit in science I have known cosmic religious feelings."
"The world needs new moral impulses which, I’m afraid, won’t come from the
churches, heavily compromised as t
ication, and there are additional trichotomies for the dyadic
> relations of the sign to its external objects and interpretants (dynamical
> and final), as well as the triadic relation of the sign to its genuine
> object (dynamical) and interpretant (final).
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here. No doubt there are any number of other lists-serves where discussions
of AI are pertinent.
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gt;> been an object of interest before somebody had showed interest, has it?
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>> things (and JAS has, himself, with Gangle, Colapietro, et al) gone into the
>> mechanics of this extensively. Would just wonder what people make of it
>> from within the Peircean semeiotic, now, not so much as to thing in
>> itself's
s for many a newer meaning - (AB) institutional change,
effected by intelligent reform of social institutions. That is pragmatism,
as it’s meaningful to me. I think we lost that Deweyan definition. Bring it
back.
Atila
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s is* [co-author, Michael C. Haley],”
> *American
> Speech*, 77 (2002), 305-312.
>
> 25. “Is an Icon Iconic?,” *Language*, 84 (2008), 815-819.
>
> 26. “Roman Jakobson in Retrospect: Unvarnished Remembrances of a
> Stiff-NeckedStudent,” *Chinese Semiotic Studies*, 14 (2018), 41-56
etence up from there,
> and so can skip the human grammar-module". But that neither is witchcraft,
> nor does it say, that there is no human-genetic grammar-module. And I too
> hope with the Linguist, that we dont have to fear ChatGPT more than we have
> to fear a refrigerator.
>
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t;> characteristics of an individual):
>>
>> Leader (qua essential way of being) - Follower(s)/Led (qua actual object)
>> - Future (qua indeterminate interpretant).
>>
>> I’m a big fan of your and Ben’s chapter in "Peirce in His Own Words" on
>>
tension of pluralism
> in social media platforms, relativism gone wild in the interpretation of
> the law, the conundrums of individualism for economics, and rampant
> nihilism in every sector?
>
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> Thank you for considering,
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> Martin W. Kettelhut, PhD
> Listeni
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Comments on the nature and purpose of Peirce-L, was, Re: [PEIRCE-L] The
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> I agree with
f law. But at any assignable date in the past, however
> early, there was already some tendency toward uniformity; and at any
> assignable date in the future there will be some slight aberrancy from law.
> (CP 1.409, 1887-8)
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ading to the
plausible hypothesis of the reality of God.
I would hope that it goes without saying that one does not have to have
attended today's 10 minute thesis to jump into the conversation.
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