Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-31 Thread jimzak


I finally got the scanner to complete a scan.

I did run SFC on my LMS computer and it found a few errors which were
fixed.

I also performed further file integrity scans on a few music folders and
removed a few hundred damaged files.

I have since run several "new or changed" rescans without any errors in
the log.

So, LMS is my friend again, at least for now.  Until it's not, I guess. 


I'm tempted to run a complete rescan just to see if I can.

*LMS is the meaning of life.*  At least on this forum.

Happy New Year.

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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-29 Thread Michael Herger

2.  The C drive has 128 GB left on it.


And did you run a file system check? Did you look into those CUE sheets, 
why they point at files which no longer exist? Or why LMS might think 
they no longer existed?



And my question is why did this problem develop suddenly on my system
after a year or so of stability?


Asking this question is asking for the answer to life and everything. 
Let's start with smaller questions to which we can find a answer in this 
lifetime.

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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-29 Thread jimzak


mherger wrote: 
> Did you try a full wipe & rescan?
> 
> And please check your drive's state: is there enough free disk space on
> 
> C:? Is the filesystem ok?

1.  I have tried every variation on a clean wipe and rescan including a
completely new installation after an uninstall.
2.  The C drive has 128 GB left on it.

And my question is why did this problem develop suddenly on my system
after a year or so of stability?

Thanks.



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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-28 Thread Michael Herger

Did you try a full wipe & rescan?

And please check your drive's state: is there enough free disk space on 
C:? Is the filesystem ok?

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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-28 Thread jimzak


On like the 10th try, the scanner stalled at about the same place but I
left it scanning because I wasn't watching it closely.

Inexplicably, the scanner started moving again and completed scanning my
nearly 450k files.

However, it now stalls and aborts early in the artwork pre-caching
stage.

I saw in one of the scanner logs that a GIF was corrupt.

I then scanned all my files for corrupt picture files with Bad Peggy.

I found and deleted less than 100 bad graphics files but the scanner
still aborts at the pre-caching stage.

Thoughts?

Mine are as follows:

1.  Why did LMS happily scan my files until recently yet there have been
no substantial changes to my setup other than Windows updates and Plex
updates?
2.  Why does it stall when newly scanning files at about 75k and then
resume scanning as if nothing happened?
3.  Why does the scanner stall on the artwork pre-caching now and
completely abort?

I like detective work but I would rather just use the system. 
Fortunately the system does play now, at least.

I have attached the scanner log again and a screenshot to show where it
stalls/aborts.

Thanks for any help.

Happy
holidays.39573395743957339574


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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-28 Thread jimzak


mherger wrote: 
> The log file you initially posted had probably thousands of "referenced
> file not found" or similar errors. CUE sheets pointing at WAV/FLAC files
> they didn't find. I guess you should start over with a wipe/rescan.

I thought of that myself.  

However, when I checked the files, the .cue file is always located in a
directory with the files that it is referencing.

Why is LMS reporting this as an error?

And this doesn't explain why LMS happily scanned my files for a year or
so until now?

Any other thoughts?

Thanks so much.



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Re: [slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-28 Thread mherger


The log file you initially posted had probably thousands of "referenced
file not found" or similar errors. CUE sheets pointing at WAV/FLAC files
they didn't find. I guess you should start over with a wipe/rescan.



Michael

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and/or scanner.log file!"
(LMS: Settings/Information)

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[slim] LMS Scanner 8.31 failing

2022-12-27 Thread jimzak


I have been using this version for a year or so on a Intel NUC computer
with an i7 processor and 16 GB of RAM.

I have made no substantial changes to the software except the regular
Windows 10 updates.

Yesterday, I attempted to rescan after adding new music but after
several tries and retries including a complete uninstall and reinstall,
the scanner fails every time.

I have attached the scanner log.

Thanks for your time.

Happy Holidays.


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Re: [slim] LMS scan and mp3 tags

2022-11-14 Thread Michael Herger

The best solution is always to fix the tags.

You could also narrow down your music folder to just one or two where 
the problem arises, then enable logging for the scanner, and provide the 
scanner.log.zip for analysis.

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[slim] LMS scan and mp3 tags

2022-11-14 Thread dmozell


There is an lms feature which will use folder and file names to guess
artist/album/song when mp3 tag fields are empty. But when a folder
includes files with tags and other files without tags, that feature does
not work. The album will show the songs that have the tags and the other
song files will be ignored by the scan. All will show up if I click on
folders instead of albums. Is there a way around this short of editing
all the tags with missing fields? Thanks.



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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-13 Thread castalla


Thanks.





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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-13 Thread cpd73


OK, my notes on this are:


Code:


  Bluetooth
  Installed into https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-btspeaker
  /usr/local/bluetooth
  
  Deps:
  sudo apt install python3-evdev
  
  BlueAlsa
  Not official part of bullseye :(
  See: https://sigmdel.ca/michel/ha/rpi/bluetooth_in_rpios_02_en.html#bluealsa3
  
  #
  # For 32-bit:
  #echo "deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/ bookworm main" | sudo tee 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/armbian.list
  #printf 'Package: *\nPin: release n=bookworm\nPin-Priority: 100\n' | sudo tee 
--append /etc/apt/preferences.d/limit-bookworm
  #wget https://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian.public.key -O - | sudo apt-key 
add -
  #sudo apt update
  #sudo apt install bluez-alsa-utils
  
  #
  # For 64-bit:
  wget 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bluez-alsa/bluez-alsa-utils_3.0.0-2_arm64.deb
  wget 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bluez/libbluetooth3_5.64-2_arm64.deb
  wget 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libl/libldac/libldacbt-abr2_2.0.2.3+git20200429+ed310a0-4_arm64.deb
  wget 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libl/libldac/libldacbt-enc2_2.0.2.3+git20200429+ed310a0-4_arm64.deb
  wget 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bluez-alsa/libasound2-plugin-bluez_3.0.0-2_arm64.deb
  sudo apt install libsbc1
  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
  
  sudo groupadd bluealsa
  sudo usermod -a -G bluealsa pi
  sudo usermod -a -G bluealsa lms
  -- groups did not work. lms user cannot play???
  
  Edit /lib/systemd/system/bluez-alsa.service and uncomment "Group=bluealsa" 
line
  
  sudo systemctl daemon-reload
  sudo systemctl restart bluez-alsa
  
  Squeezelite:
  sudo apt install squeezelite
  sudo systemctl stop squeezelite
  sudo systemctl disable squeezelite
  
  Pair BT devices
  sudo bluetoothctl
  [bluetooth]# scan on
  ...
  [bluetooth]# scan off
  [bluetooth]# pair 00:00:00:00:00:00
  [bluetooth]# trust 00:00:00:00:00:00
  [bluetooth]# connect 00:00:00:00:00:00
  [bluetooth]# exit
  
  Systemd:
  sudo btspeaker-monitor.service /etc/systemd/system/
  sudo systemctl daemon-reload
  sudo systemctl enable btspeaker-monitor
  sudo systemctl restart btspeaker-monitor
  




*Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json
(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-13 Thread castalla


cpd73 wrote: 
> 
> 
> https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-btspeaker
> 
> If you want to know the steps I used to setup BT on the Pi4/64-bit I can
> post those later.

Would be useful for others!





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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-13 Thread cpd73


castalla wrote: 
> A few years ago, I struggled to get Bluetooth working on Linux but gave
> up.   Maybe things have moved on?

I've been using Bluetooth on a Pi4 (Raspbian, not piCorePlayer) for
years. Upgraded the Pi4 to a newer 64-bit distro and had some hassle,
due to changes (had to manually install bluez-alsa from a deb file), and
one speaker takes longer to connect than before, but everyting still
works. I have a python script that monitors for BT connections and then
starts a squeezelite instance. This allows me to have a speaker in the
bathroom that I just turn on and after a few seconds (this is the slower
speaker) it conncts to LMS and starts to play. This script also passes
the prev, play, pause, and next button presses onto LMS.

https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-btspeaker

If you want to know the steps I used to setup BT on the Pi4/64-bit I can
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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-12 Thread castalla


d6jg wrote: 
> I think you have missed out the easiest way of all. Use a separate
> Bluetooth Transmitter plugged directly into headphone out of whatever
> device you are using.
> 
> Also equally good as the Android option is any iOS device with iPeng
> installed and player mode enabled.
> 
> Just my 2p

Yes, that works.  Thanks.





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Re: [slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-12 Thread d6jg


I think you have missed out the easiest way of all. Use a separate
Bluetooth Transmitter plugged directly into headphone out of whatever
device you are using.

Also equally good as the Android option is any iOS device with iPeng
installed and player mode enabled.

Just my 2p



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[slim] LMS and bluetooth

2022-10-11 Thread castalla


Here are some ways to combine LMS and Bluetooth headphones and speakers.


1.  Raspi 3./4 plus Picoreplayer.  The Pcp Bluetooth feature can be
temperamental to set up (especially in the latest version). 

2.  Android tablets/phones with Squeeze Player or SB Player apps.  Easy
set up.  Use the bluetooth transmit on the android device.
This method also works for Fire TV devices and Android/Google TV
devices. 

3.  Android/Google TV devices.  Install chromecast bridge plugin on LMS.
Add Bluetooth phones/speakers to the chromecast device.  The chromecast
device can be unplugged from the hdmi port.  

4.  Windows 10/11 - add bt devices via Settings.  Install the excellent
Squeezelite-x program (r. g. dawson)

In terms of setup difficulty, I've found 2. and 3. to be the easiest. 
The 2 android apps are low-cost.

A few years ago, I struggled to get Bluetooth working on Linux but gave
up.   Maybe things have moved on?





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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-04 Thread RobbH


RonM wrote: 
> I can check that, but I'm not highly incentivized to do it, having
> solved my problem. Sometime. I presume that disc number would be set for
> the tracks in question, which wasn't set as part of the rip, so that
> would be easy to check. If I still had the files with that naming
> system, which I don't.
> 
> R.

Certainly, once the problem is solved, there's no point in wasting
further time on it! But if you encounter this sort of thing again, it
might be worth checking this angle... even though there's a very good
chance that my speculation is pure nonsense.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-04 Thread RonM


RobbH wrote: 
> I will try to restate my earlier question in a more comprehensible
> format:
> 
> Is it possible that LMS thinks that a filename beginning " TS6-X" refers
> to disc number X of a multi-disc set?
> 
> For that to happen, I think (but have no actual knowledge) that the
> following would be necessary:
> 
> 1. In Settings/My Music the "Group Discs" option is set to "Treat
> multi-disc sets as separate albums,"
> 2. The tracks in question do NOT contain a tag for Disc Number, and
> 3. In Settings/Advanced/Formatting* the "Guess Tag Formats" templates
> include at least one that assigns a value to Disc Number.
> 
> This is based on an extrapolation from mrw's explanation of how LMS can
> use filenames to fill in missing tags, a few posts back in this thread.
> And my speculation is most likely wrong, but I thought it might be worth
> mentioning, since no other explanation has been found, so far.

I can check that, but I'm not highly incentivized to do it, having
solved my problem. Sometime. I presume that disc number would be set for
the tracks in question, which wasn't set as part of the rip, so that
would be easy to check. If I still had the files with that naming
system, which I don't.

R.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-04 Thread RobbH


I will try to restate my earlier question in a more comprehensible
format:

Is it possible that LMS thinks that a filename beginning " TS6-X" refers
to disc number X of a multi-disc set?

For that to happen, I think (but have no actual knowledge) that the
following would be necessary:

1. In Settings/My Music the "Group Discs" option is set to "Treat
multi-disc sets as separate albums,"
2. The tracks in question do NOT contain a tag for Disc Number, and
3. In Settings/Advanced/Formatting* the "Guess Tag Formats" templates
include at least one that assigns a value to Disc Number.

This is based on an extrapolation from mrw's explanation of how LMS can
use filenames to fill in missing tags, a few posts back in this thread.
And my speculation is most likely wrong, but I thought it might be worth
mentioning, since no other explanation has been found, so far.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-04 Thread RonM


To recap, it seems that LMS is taking album definition (grouping songs
by album) from elements of the filename, and not just from the album
name associated with the song in tags. This is an illustration of the
situation, and a demonstration of the fix (which is just removing the
initial filename structure and replacing it with the track number).
Behold:

38830

The screenshot above (using the LMS webpage rather than the display on
my mobile) shows the album structure in New Music. Note that most albums
in the Transatlantic Sessions series are represented by a single entry,
1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, but those tagged as Transatlantic Sessions 6 have
multiple entries; each of these entries have songs from a particular
episode; all have the same album name specified.


38831

After I modified the filenames to take out the episode reference (all in
the form of TS6-X - ), where X is the episode, all the tracks are now
included in a single listing for the album Transatlantic Sessions 6. 


38832

This is the track information BEFORE the change to the filename. Note
the shaded area which is the path to the file, including the filename.
It shows "TS 6-6 - " at the beginning of the filename.


38833

This is the file information after the "TS 6-6 -" was replaced with the
track number "35". Nothing else was changed, and in particular no tags
were changed. When done for all tracks, this resulted in all the tracks
being included in a single specified album.


Ron


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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-04 Thread RonM


To recap, it seems that LMS is taking album definition (grouping songs
by album) from elements of the filename, and not just from the album
name associated with the song in tags. This is an illustration of the
situation, and a demonstration of the fix (which is just removing the
initial filename structure and replacing it with the track number).
Behold:

38825

The screenshot above (using the LMS webpage rather than the display on
my mobile) shows the album structure in New Music. Note that most albums
in the Transatlantic Sessions series are represented by a single entry,
1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, but those tagged as Transatlantic Sessions 6 have
multiple entries; each of these entries have songs from a particular
episode; all have the same album name specified.


38826

After I modified the filenames to take out the episode reference (all in
the form of TS6-X - ), where X is the episode, all the tracks are now
included in a single listing for the album Transatlantic Sessions 6. 


38829

This is the track information BEFORE the change to the filename. Note
the shaded area which is the path to the file, including the filename.
It shows "TS 6-6 - " at the beginning of the filename.


38828

This is the file information after the "TS 6-6 -" was replaced with the
track number "35". Nothing else was changed, and in particular no tags
were changed. When done for all tracks, this resulted in all the tracks
being included in a single specified album.


+---+
|Filename: Track listing showing filename TS6-6.jpg |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38829|
+---+


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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread RobbH


RonM wrote: 
> There is no difference in the tags. If I modify the filename (and only
> the filename) to eliminate the, for example, TS6-6, then the odd
> behavior stops, and all files are listed under one album. The behavior
> changes even though no tags are changed, only the filename. It's clear
> that the tags are readable, so LMS is not being forced to guess from the
> filename. 
> 
> All the affected files are given the same album name, but if there is
> that preceding bit of text in the filename they will be separated into
> albums based on the filename. Once that text is replaced by, for
> instance, a sequence number than they get lumped together into one album
> as is the intent.
> 
> R.

This is very much a long shot, pure speculation, not based on any actual
experience or knowledge:

What's the current setting for the "Group Discs" option, under
Settings/My Music?



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread oldfolkie

mrw wrote: 
> Not entirely. If the file tags are not readable, then LMS can extract
> information from the file name. See “guess tags formats” in server
> settings/formats.

Interesting. I've never used that--I've always tagged before including
anything in LMS.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread slartibartfast


RonM wrote: 
> There is no difference in the tags. If I modify the filename (and only
> the filename) to eliminate the, for example, TS6-6, then the odd
> behavior stops, and all files are listed under one album. The behavior
> changes even though no tags are changed, only the filename. It's clear
> that the tags are readable, so LMS is not being forced to guess from the
> filename. 
> 
> All the affected files are given the same album name, but if there is
> that preceding bit of text in the filename they will be separated into
> albums based on the filename. Once that text is replaced by, for
> instance, a sequence number than they get lumped together into one album
> as is the intent.
> 
> R.No idea then. I might experiment myself to reproduce it.

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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread RonM


There is no difference in the tags. If I modify the filename (and only
the filename) to eliminate the, for example, TS6-6, then the odd
behavior stops, and all files are listed under one album. The behavior
changes even though no tags are changed, only the filename. It's clear
that the tags are readable, so LMS is not being forced to guess from the
filename. 

All the affected files are given the same album name, but if there is
that preceding bit of text in the filename they will be separated into
albums based on the filename. Once that text is replaced by, for
instance, a sequence number than they get lumped together into one album
as is the intent.

R.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread mrw

oldfolkie wrote: 
> I'm not sure I quite understand, but it's my understanding that file
> names are totally irrelevant to LMS.

Not entirely. If the file tags are not readable, then LMS can extract
information from the file name. See “guess tags formats” in server
settings/formats.



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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-02 Thread slartibartfast


RonM wrote: 
> I have a series of DVDs from the Scottish/American co-produced series
> The Transatlantic Sessions, from the 90s through 2013. These feature
> musicians from the celtic tradition (Scottish/Irish mainly) and American
> roots musicians; they share common musical roots. The series were also
> released as CDs but these are mostly out of stock and no longer in
> production, and I've never found an online source for downloading. So
> I've ripped the music tracks from the DVDs. Sound quality is excellent,
> and I've left in some of the commentary for variety.
> 
> My objective has been to have all of the tracks for each season listed
> as one album, e.g. Transatlantic Sessions 2, with some 45 tracks, and so
> on. 
> 
> 38813
> 
> In doing this I've discovered what seems to me to be an oddity. I edit
> tags/details using MP3Tag, and identify all the tracks in a season (all
> in the same folder) in sequence, with track number specified, and all
> with the same single album name for the season identified. For several
> of the seasons I'd ripped so that the filenames included a reference to
> the episode in which the track was included. For example, the filename
> could be preceded by "TS6-6 - ", for Transatlantic Sessions season 6
> episode 6. I had originally been renaming the files to be preceded by
> the track number, allowing a sort through which I could then specify
> track number in the tags. See below for examples of filenames done in
> the two different ways:
> 
> 38814  38815
> 
> As you can see, both had track number specified. I then had the
> brainwave that I didn't need to edit each filename, I could just amend
> the track number directly, which was annoying but marginally faster than
> editing the filename. I thought it wouldn't make a difference.
> 
> Weirdly, from my point of view, this resulted in two different ways that
> LMS displayed the tracks by album. If there was no season/episode
> specified at the start of the track name a single album was identified
> with all the tracks listed in track order, as in the image above at the
> top. If there WAS a season/episode specified in the form "TS6-6 - ", LMS
> sorts them into separate "albums" according to this taxonomy. All the
> TS6-1 tracks are in one album, the TS6-2 in another, and so on.  I can
> fix the problem by taking out the season/episode info at the start of
> the filename, which I have done, leaving only Season 6 with the
> season/episode info. You can see the result below, with Season 6 divided
> into 6 albums, but only one album showing for each of the other
> seasons:
> 
> 38816
> 
> I wonder if LMS is set up to sort by album based on a value at the start
> of a filename, perhaps with a hyphen after the "album" value and before
> other information? 
> 
> This is not a real problem for me, as I will fix Season 6 when I get
> around to it by renaming all the filenames, but it is a bit tedious. 
> 
> RonIs there a difference in the tags for the different behaviours? You
mentioned tags in the post but didn't show any. Can you show a
screenshot of the tags?

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Re: [slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-01 Thread oldfolkie


I'm not sure I quite understand, but it's my understanding that file
names are totally irrelevant to LMS.  I've created separate albums for
tracks that are contained within the same file and I've created albums
that contain tracks that come from separate files.  In each case, it's
the same tag names for Album and Album Artist that made the groupings an
Album, regardless where the tracks were physically located or what the
file names were.

I also use MP3Tag and I've sometimes gone back to rename File Names (or
the split File Names to different tags), but I usually use the Convert
or Quick Action functions to do any mass changes.

By the way, I'm also a big Celtic and roots music fan.

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[slim] LMS album definition from filename? Really.

2022-10-01 Thread RonM


I have a series of DVDs from the Scottish/American co-produced series
The Transatlantic Sessions, from the 90s through 2013. These feature
musicians from the celtic tradition (Scottish/Irish mainly) and American
roots musicians; they share common musical roots. The series were also
released as CDs but these are mostly out of stock and no longer in
production, and I've never found an online source for downloading. So
I've ripped the music tracks from the DVDs. Sound quality is excellent,
and I've left in some of the commentary for variety.

My objective has been to have all of the tracks for each season listed
as one album, e.g. Transatlantic Sessions 2, with some 45 tracks, and so
on. 

38813

In doing this I've discovered what seems to me to be an oddity. I edit
tags/details using MP3Tag, and identify all the tracks in a season (all
in the same folder) in sequence, with track number specified, and all
with the same single album name for the season identified. For several
of the seasons I'd ripped so that the filenames included a reference to
the episode in which the track was included. For example, the filename
could be preceded by "TS6-6 - ", for Transatlantic Sessions season 6
episode 6. I had originally been renaming the files to be preceded by
the track number, allowing a sort through which I could then specify
track number in the tags. See below for examples of filenames done in
the two different ways:

38814  38815

As you can see, both had track number specified. I then had the
brainwave that I didn't need to edit each filename, I could just amend
the track number directly, which was annoying but marginally faster than
editing the filename. I thought it wouldn't make a difference.

Weirdly, from my point of view, this resulted in two different ways that
LMS displayed the tracks by album. If there was no season/episode
specified at the start of the track name a single album was identified
with all the tracks listed in track order, as in the image above at the
top. If there WAS a season/episode specified in the form "TS6-6 - ", LMS
sorts them into separate "albums" according to this taxonomy. All the
TS6-1 tracks are in one album, the TS6-2 in another, and so on.  I can
fix the problem by taking out the season/episode info at the start of
the filename, which I have done, leaving only Season 6 with the
season/episode info. You can see the result below, with Season 6 divided
into 6 albums, but only one album showing for each of the other
seasons:

38816

I wonder if LMS is set up to sort by album based on a value at the start
of a filename, perhaps with a hyphen after the "album" value and before
other information? 

This is not a real problem for me, as I will fix Season 6 when I get
around to it by renaming all the filenames, but it is a bit tedious. 

Ron


+---+
|Filename: TS album listings.jpg|
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Re: [slim] LMS Plugin - SQLPlaylist

2022-03-31 Thread RobbH


And I hope you're right about that!



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Re: [slim] LMS Plugin - SQLPlaylist

2022-03-31 Thread w3wilkes


Thanks Robb,
I suspect that SQLPlaylist will probably continue to work as long as LMS
continues to use SQLite as its database platform.

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Re: [slim] LMS Plugin - SQLPlaylist

2022-03-31 Thread RobbH


If you go to the plugins page in Settings in the default interface
(Settings > Server Settings > Plugins > Plugins in Material), at the
bottom of the page there should be a checkbox beside "Use unsupported
extensions." Check the box, apply, and you should get a list of
unsupported plugins that you can install at your own risk. Some of
Erlands are included, and SQL Playlist is one of them. Of course there
is no guarantee that any of them will work, but as far as I can tell
this one works in LMS 8.3. How long that will continue to be true is
anybody's guess.



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[slim] LMS Plugin - SQLPlaylist

2022-03-31 Thread w3wilkes


This old plugin by Erland is my 3rd most used plugin behind Material
Skin and Music and Artist Information. Now that Erland has dropped
support for his plugins are there any repositories that still have his
old plugins? If not, how do I go about saving what I currently have so
that I don't lose it in the event I build a new LMS from scratch?



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-22 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> .I hope your not a Doctor  :):):rolleyes:
> 
> ronnie

Actually Ronnie, he's not, he's an adventurer, but his father IS a
doctor :)

Jim



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-22 Thread Man in a van


Jonny Quest wrote: 
> I've been having a busy day. My TIDAL content is back again! I've no
> idea what I've done to achieve this!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does this make any sense to anyone?...

As hinted at by  *@Redrum* too many variables to decipher the original
problem.  I hope your not a Doctor  :):):rolleyes:

Glad it's all working now though :)

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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-21 Thread Redrum


I was going to reply earlier but was thrown off by "index build" and not
sure if my response would have been relevant.

There have been a couple instances where the mysb.com login credentials
looked right, but when they got reented and lms restarted, Tidal access
was restored. I was also going to mention to make sure mysb.com has
properly registered with Tidal.

but...sometime when you just take a big leap back and incremental steps
forward to rebuild, you fix the issue with even knowing what it was :)

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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-21 Thread Jonny Quest


I've been having a busy day. My TIDAL content is back again! I've no
idea what I've done to achieve this!

I decided this morning that I would focus on something else and would
apply the Version Comparison patch to my three Squeezebox Radios. This
required me to remove LMS from my PC and install a lower version
(7.7.0). That all worked fine.

I then uninstalled AVG TuneUp as suggested above.

Then I unistalled LMS v 7.7.0.

I uninstalled TIDAL from MySB then changed my TIDAL and MySB passwords.

Next I disabled Windows Defender firewall.

I logged back into MySB and reinstalled TIDAL there with the new
password.

I then reinstalled LMS v 8.2.0.

I entered my required folders under the Library tab, and Account
credentials and then ran an index rebuild. No TIDAL content - and I was
still seeing errors in the server log about failing to log in to
MySqueezebox.

I then went to the web interface and re-entered my MySB password there
and hit Apply - this forced an index rebuild in the LMS control panel,
and lo, it has included my TIDAL content now.

Does this make any sense to anyone?...



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-21 Thread Jonny Quest


Man in a van wrote: 
> I don't know which port / ports this program uses, but I would try
> uninstalling it for a couple of days and see if it cures your problem.
> 
> ronnie

I'll give that a try - thanks.



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-20 Thread Man in a van


> AVG PC TuneUp

I don't know which port / ports this program uses, but I would try
uninstalling it for a couple of days and see if it cures your problem.

ronnie



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-20 Thread Jonny Quest


Man in a van wrote: 
> have you tried connecting to your account

Sorry - just seen the second part of your reply. Yes, I've gone to
mysqueezebox.com directly and logged in fine using the id and password
that is failing in LMS.



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-20 Thread Jonny Quest


Man in a van wrote: 
> Have you checked the setting here ?

Thanks for the reply - yes, just checked again and it is enabled as in
the example you show.



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Re: [slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-20 Thread Man in a van


Have you checked the setting here ? 

The message says 
> 
> Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled:


37521

have you tried connecting to your account


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[slim] LMS not connecting to MySqueezebox - no TIDAL content in index build

2022-03-20 Thread Jonny Quest


Hi there. I am starting a new thread for this as requested. I have
recently experienced again an intermittent problem where LMS integration
with TIDAL is failing and I'm not getting any TIDAL content included
when the index is rebuilt. I posted some server logs which showed that
LMS is failing to connect to MySqueezebox. Here's another section of the
log file from today:


See
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/public/8.0/README.md#sb-radio-and-logitech-media-server-8.
[22-03-20 11:58:50.4181] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431)
Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
[22-03-20 11:58:50.4183] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(156) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Timed out
waiting for data (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[22-03-20 11:58:50.4185] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(172) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Timed out waiting for data,
will retry in 300 (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[22-03-20 11:59:10.1512] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431)
Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
[22-03-20 11:59:10.1514] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestWrite (514) Context
not found in requestWrite
[22-03-20 11:59:51.2807] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestWrite (514) Context
not found in requestWrite
[22-03-20 12:00:21.3495] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (431)
Unable to login to SN: Timed out waiting for data
[22-03-20 12:00:21.3498] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(156) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Timed out
waiting for data (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[22-03-20 12:00:21.3500] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(172) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Timed out waiting for data,
will retry in 600 (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[22-03-20 12:04:00.3150] Slim::Utils::Timers::__ANON__ (272) Error:
Timer Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::__ANON__ failed:

I was asked to provide some more details about OS and security products
etc:

I'm running LMS on:


Dell Inspiron 3847 PC
Windows 10 Home v21H1
64-bit operating system
OS build 19043.1586

I'm using the firewall that comes bundled with Windows Security but have
tried a a reinstallation of LMS and an index rebuild with the firewall
disabled and it has n't helped - stil no TIDAL content displayed. Note
I've tried uninstalling TIDAL from MySqueezebox and reintsalling it with
new password but this doesn't help either.

I'm also running AVG PC TuneUp but have it set so that it is not running
continuously, only when I choose. I don't see how that could be
affecting this, but thought I'd mention it.

Any help and advice would be gratefully received. Let me know if you
need any more information!

Thanks.



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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-13 Thread Redrum


jimzak wrote: 
> Let it be noted that I had recently done a complete reinstall of Windows
> and LMS.  This startup setting issue was not a setting that had
> mysteriously changed.

I moved LMS to picore a while back, and am no expert on windows, but
have noticed "permission" issues with windows 10 that were not there
initially but came about during an update. This might be what you are
seeing.

Check out this thread, where @gordonb3, and @d6jg mention windows UAC
(User Account Control) -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115832-LMS-Has-Stopped-Working-Cannot-Get-It-Working-Again

My permission issues magically appeared after I had to fresh install
windows because of the dreaded "startup repair" loop to nowhere. I
reinstalled freefilesync and all of a sudden got "you don't have
permission to access this folder" even though I was logged in as admin.
I had to explicitly launch ffs via "run as administrator"

Jim



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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-13 Thread jimzak


Shozzer wrote: 
> I can't help I'm afraid apart from Saying that having run LMS in Windows
> for a number of years I got frustrated with the occasional loss of
> settings and other glitches that I have switched to piCoreplayer which
> seems a lot more stable.
> 
> Steve

Let it be noted that I had recently done a complete reinstall of Windows
and LMS.  This startup setting issue was not a setting that had
mysteriously changed.



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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-12 Thread jimzak

Shozzer wrote: 
> On the Control Panel: Status Tab: Startup Options - make sure that you
> select ‘Automatically Run at System Start’
> 
> Steve

Very interesting.  This option does not exist in my current version:
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.0 - 1643414649 @ Sat Jan 29 01:17:07
WEST 2022

The only option is to load at login.



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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-12 Thread Shozzer


I can't help I'm afraid apart from Saying that having run LMS in Windows
for a number of years I got frustrated with the occasional loss of
settings and other glitches that I have switched to piCoreplayer which
seems a lot more stable.

Steve


agbagb wrote: 
> I've always had that selected under various falors of Windows, now at
> 11.  Curiously, every now and then on a Win system full reboot, LMS
> fails to load..  Not often, but enough to be annoying.  Manually
> forcing LMS to then load is easy enough - but I often log out and in of
> Win to fix the issue, in case there's anything else that is behaving
> oddly.
> 
> I'm not always meticulous about shutting LMS before a Win reboot -  so I
> wonder if sometimes LMS has not properly closed and therefore misses /
> ignores the restart on boot option?



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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-12 Thread agbagb

Shozzer wrote: 
> On the Control Panel: Status Tab: Startup Options - make sure that you
> select ‘Automatically Run at System Start’
> 
> Steve

I've always had that selected under various falors of Windows, now at
11.  Curiously, every now and then on a Win system full reboot, LMS
fails to load..  Not often, but enough to be annoying.  Manually
forcing LMS to then load is easy enough - but I often log out and in of
Win to fix the issue, in case there's anything else that is behaving
oddly.

I'm not always meticulous about shutting LMS before a Win reboot -  so I
wonder if sometimes LMS has not properly closed and therefore misses /
ignores the restart on boot option?



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Control: Web GUI; MaterialSkin on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16862)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16867)
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Re: [slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-11 Thread Shozzer

On the Control Panel: Status Tab: Startup Options - make sure that you
select ‘Automatically Run at System Start’

Steve


jimzak wrote: 
> I recently rebooted my server and noticed that the players did not
> connect.
> 
> So I logged into my Windows 10 server and noticed that AS I LOGGED IN
> LMS seemed to load.
> 
> I've been using LMS for over a decade and I had not noticed this
> particular behavior before.  I assumed that LMS would load into Windows
> 10 without someone physically having to log in.
> 
> Am I missing a setting in Windows or LMS?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> .me



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[slim] LMS on Windows 10: does LMS load before login?

2022-02-11 Thread jimzak


I recently rebooted my server and noticed that the players did not
connect.

So I logged into my Windows 10 server and noticed that AS I LOGGED IN
LMS seemed to load.

I've been using LMS for over a decade and I had not noticed this
particular behavior before.  I assumed that LMS would load into Windows
10 without someone physically having to log in.

Am I missing a setting in Windows or LMS?

Thanks.

.me



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-20 Thread Labarum


mherger wrote: 
> Classical music is hard to get right. And the sources the plugin uses 
> certainly are not optimized for classical music.

Agreed. I remember reading years ago an article about how the tagging
system generally adopted is pretty useless for classical music. I think
there are music services that work round the problems, to a degree.

And, as I said, the other problem is the untidiness of my database.

The Brandenburg example I show illustrates the lack of album art in one
linked album - but that album was a free download collected years ago
from some record company. Naxos? It has only track numbers and no
concerto numbers or movement names - I expect it was offered for
download without those data. The Cathedral CDs are probably not in the
main catalogue and that's why they have no art.

Nevertheless, the plugin is a great resource. Thank you.



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Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp  - AVI
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Michael Herger

Sometimes it works for me and sometimes it produces very strange
results. Here is a good example


Classical music is hard to get right. And the sources the plugin uses 
certainly are not optimized for classical music.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


kidstypike wrote: 
> One of the great features of MAI if you haven't already discovered it,
> is the Artist/Album/Lyric info you get by clicking the "i" on the
> toolbar.
> 
> 36935

Sometimes it works for me and sometimes it produces very strange
results. Here is a good example

36936

But my music library is very old and very raggy.


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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> My network shares used to appear as folders under Network in Windows
> Explorer (or whatever it is called now) until a couple of months ago.
> Now they don't and I have no idea why.

Yes, my expectations were raised by a Youtube training video, but I
could see nothing. All very odd, but I got there - or I stumbled on a
solution! I always thought networking was a black art!

I had seen the (i) information button - I wonder if that is more useful
for popular music. I have presently uninstalled the plugin while try and
tidy up my 20 year old flac collection. What a mess!



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread slartibartfast


Labarum wrote: 
> How very odd. I was expecting a network folder to appear in the Windows
> File manager when I was messing earlier, but after your \\ipaddress
> prompt I got one and have added a quicklink for future use!
> 
> So, I have LMS on the rPi accessed from this Chromebook, and have got
> into its attached USB drive via Samba on this Chromebook; and from this
> same Chromebook with Remote Desktop I have set up a Samba link to the
> rPi from the old Tower PC that has no monitor! Pretty amazing for me! As
> I said a steep learning curve.
> 
> Thanks for the prompt.My network shares used to appear as folders under 
> Network in Windows
Explorer (or whatever it is called now) until a couple of months ago.
Now they don't and I have no idea why.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread kidstypike


Labarum wrote: 
> @Paul Webster
> 
> Ref: MAI (Music and Artist Information)
> 
> Plugin now installed and library rescanned. I initially thought its
> purpose was not what I wanted as the "Information" clicky in the
> uninstalled plugin list returned an empty page and I had not much to go
> on.
> 
> But the plugin has now been installed and the library cleared and
> rescanned. Lots more data in there and some more album covers display,
> but by no means all. Many of the CDs without cover art were privately
> published by Cathedrals, so the data may not be in the general database,
> and many of those CDs were bought and ripped 20 years ago. A couple of
> Albums display the rear and not the front of the case artwork! I must
> have an old and very untidy library which will never be cleaned up
> fully. Some of the flacs were given me by others sourced goodness know
> where. I have two or even three copies of some albums!
> 
> Is it possible to edit the raw files from within the Raspberry Pi, or
> will I have to figure out how Samba works and edit from another machine?
> Or else plug the USB drive back into my PC and edit there.
> 
> Many, but not all of my CDs I will have ripped on Foobar.
> 
> Are there plans to add a CD ripper to the PiCorePlayer suite. It would
> be rather good to plug a USB CD drive into my rPi and rip to default
> settings and default folder.
> 
> So many questions. So much to learn. Thanks for your patience.

One of the great features of MAI if you haven't already discovered it,
is the Artist/Album/Lyric info you get by clicking the "i" on the
toolbar.

36935


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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum

d6jg wrote: 
> In Windows it’s \\ipaddress in the location bar in File Explorer
> whereas in Linux it’s SMB://ipaddress

How very odd. I was expecting a network folder to appear in the Windows
File manager when I was messing earlier, but after your \\ipaddress
promt I got one and have added a quicklink for future use!

So, I have LMS on the rPi accessed from this Chromebook, and have got
into its attached USB drive via Samba on this Chromebook; and from this
same Chromebook with Remote Desktop I have set up a Samba link to the
rPi from the old Tower PC that has no monitor! Pretty amazing for me! As
I said a steep learning curve.

Thanks for the prompt.



Brian

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread d6jg

Labarum wrote: 
> Thanks Jim.
> 
> I have such a raggy database I wonder if I could live long enough to get
> it all sorted!
> 
> I have, however, make some progress this afternoon having run Samba on
> PiCorePlayer and worked out how to use Samba on my Chromebook, which is,
> of course, a locked down Linux box.
> 
> Getting Samba to work on my old Windows PC has for now beaten me, but it
> is of no consequence as I can see the relevant files from the same
> Chromebook I use as an LMS controller.
> 
> It's a steep learning curve for me!
> 
> I must find the energy to rip the rest of my CD collection. As I was
> moving around in the Army the crystal cases were binned years ago in
> favour of a very large DJs ring binder.
> 
> 36931

In Windows it’s \\ipaddress in the location bar in File Explorer
whereas in Linux it’s SMB://ipaddress



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


d6jg wrote: 
>  it is important to mention how LMS deals with cover art and the order
> it uses to decide what to display
> 

Thanks Jim.

I have such a raggy database I wonder if I could live long enough to get
it all sorted!

I have, however, make some progress this afternoon having run Samba on
PiCorePlayer and worked out how to use Samba on my Chromebook, which is,
of course, a locked down Linux box.

Getting Samba to work on my old Windows PC has for now beaten me, but it
is of no consequence as I can see the relevant files from the same
Chromebook I use as an LMS controller.

It's a steep learning curve for me!

I must find the energy to rip the rest of my CD collection. As I was
moving around in the Army the crystal cases were binned years ago in
favour of a very large DJs ring binder.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread d6jg


Cover Art
Sorry if you know this but feel it is important to mention how LMS deals
with cover art and the order it uses to decide what to display

If album art is embedded in files it will use the embedded art from the
FIRST track file it finds within a folder - having different cover art
in different files is therefore a redundant exercise.
If no embedded art is found LMS looks for the existence of folder.jpg or
cover.jpg within the album folder and uses that.
Competent rippers such as dbPoweramp can be set up in such a way as to
not create embedded art in FLACs but instead to always create
folder.jpg

A useful online resource for high quality artwork is
albumartexchange.com - account required but free.

Amongst other things MAI can look up and display Artist images. If you
want that - it looks superb in Material - then you can designate a
specific artist artwork folder. MAI will then scan for artist images and
place them into this folder. Usefully if it can't find an image it will
also create a 0 byte file called "exact artist name.missing". You can
use then manually populate with an image of your choice by finding a
.jpg or .png of said arist and renaming it "exact artist name".jpg and
delete the .missing file accordingly.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> 
> However ... generally not a good idea to rely on a single copy of your
> music files 

I have multiple copies of the Library!

Thanks. I Have samba installed. I will see what I can see on a PC!



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Paul Webster


Labarum wrote: 
> 
> Is it possible to edit the raw files from within the Raspberry Pi, or
> will I have to figure out how Samba works and edit from another machine?
> Or else plug the USB drive back into my PC and edit there.

Install the pCP SAMBA extension from the bottom of the LMS page in pCP.
Then you should be able to see the files on the pCP USB drive from your
desktop computer.
However ... generally not a good idea to rely on a single copy of your
music files - especially if you are going to be editing tags.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


@Paul Webster

Ref: MAI (Music and Artist Information)

Plugin now installed and library rescanned. I initially thought its
purpose was not what I wanted as the "Information" clicky in the
uninstalled plugin list returned an empty page and I had not much to go
on.

But the plugin has now been installed and the library cleared and
rescanned. Lots more data in there and some more album covers display,
but by no means all. Many of the CDs without cover art were privately
published by Cathedrals, so the data may not be in the general database,
and many of those CDs were bought and ripped 20 years ago. A couple of
Albums display the rear and not the front of the case artwork! I must
have an old and very untidy library which will never be cleaned up
fully. Some of the flacs were given me by others sourced goodness know
where. I have two or even three copies of some albums!

Is it possible to edit the raw files from within the Raspberry Pi, or
will I have to figure out how Samba works and edit from another machine?
Or else plug the USB drive back into my PC and edit there.

Many, but not all of my CDs I will have ripped on Foobar.

Are there plans to add a CD ripper to the PiCorePlayer suite. It would
be rather good to plug a USB CD drive into my rPi and rip to default
settings and default folder.

So many questions. So much to learn. Thanks for your patience.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> It is the plugin to do that ...

Thanks. I'll have a look.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Paul Webster


Labarum wrote: 
> I have just looked at that. It doesn't do what I had hoped.
> 
> I have a lot of Album Art missing. Is there an LMS plugin that will find
> that, or must I run my flac library through some other program that will
> find the Art without re-ripping the CDs?

It is the plugin to do that ... but you have to run a scan after you
install the plugin ... and double-check the settings

Importer settings
- Find music and artist information online during library scan  
- Look up missing genres for albums from online music services  
- Download missing cover art from online sources  
- Download and pre-cache artist pictures from online sources  
- Only download pictures for main artists, but not all contributors
(composers, conductors etc.)  
- Store placeholder file ("artist.missing") if artist pictures are to be
downloaded, but cannot be found.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Do you have MAI (Music and Artist Information) plugin installed?

I have just looked at that. It doesn't do what I had hoped.

I have a lot of Album Art missing. Is there an LMS plugin that will find
that, or must I run my flac library through some other program that will
find the Art without re-ripping the CDs?



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread cliveb


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Do you have MAI (Music and Artist Information) plugin installed?
No.

The only plugins that I use are PowerSave and PowerSwitchII, and one
that I wrote myself to control the Meridian 218.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Paul Webster


cliveb wrote: 
> Ok, fair point. My usage is simple playback from a local music library.

Do you have MAI (Music and Artist Information) plugin installed?



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread cliveb


bpa wrote: 
> This is OK if you are running a system which makes no use of internet
> services or external connections.
Ok, fair point. My usage is simple playback from a local music library.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Paul Webster


Labarum wrote: 
> I'm not new to LMS but very new to piCorePlayer. Will it make all
> necessary upgrades upgrades silently in the background or do I have to
> manually click the upgrade buttons?

You would have to click a button for LMS updates - and it can be
configured to notify you (e.g. via green spot in top right of Material
UI).
However, available updates to core pCP do not (currently at least) get
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread Labarum


I'm not new to LMS but very new to piCorePlayer. Will it make all
necessary upgrades upgrades silently in the background? The upgrade box
is checked and LMS plugins are set to update.

Will I see any notifications? Presumably there will in some
circumstances be a forced reboot.

I am very pleased with my new Raspberry Pi and thanks all who made that
possible.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-19 Thread bpa


cliveb wrote: 
> It's still running piCorePlayer version 4.something, because it does
> what's required, isn't broken and therefore doesn't need fixing. I've
> never understood why people feel the need to constantly update perfectly
> working systems.

This is OK if you are running a system which makes no use of internet
services or external connections. 


However if you do use internet services then the need to update
(regularly not necessarily "constantly")  can vary from system required
changes to SSL/TLS (e.g. Heartbleed, TLS 1.1,1.2 downgrades ), to better
support of podcasts or to support changes in internet service such as
Tidal, Deezer, Accuradio etc.  If you do not update often services break
or at worst leave your home network system open to a cyber attack or
theft of personal details.

For the last 2 years, many users have posted "my favorite station just
stopped playing" and very often it is because their system (OS and/or
LMS) is not up to date. If the LMS is there for a dependent, often the
dependent will not complain and not say anything and suffer the lack of
service.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread slartibartfast


cliveb wrote: 
> Pleased to hear you're happy with the CORE32.
> 
> My LMS runs on a Pi3. It sits there working, no maintenance, updates
> don't happen at all because they don't need to happen. It's still
> running piCorePlayer version 4.something, because it does what's
> required, isn't broken and therefore doesn't need fixing. I've never
> understood why people feel the need to constantly update perfectly
> working systems.
> 
> PS. The Pi3 has more than enough grunt to run DRC. Peak CPU hits about
> 30% when new songs start, and once they're playing CPU usage is about 3%Do 
> none of your plugins ever need to be updated?

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread cliveb


bpa wrote: 
> Out of curiousity,I got a CORE32 at launch price which was better value.
> It sits there working, no maintenance, updates happen by themselves
Pleased to hear you're happy with the CORE32.

My LMS runs on a Pi3. It sits there working, no maintenance, updates
don't happen at all because they don't need to happen. It's still
running piCorePlayer version 4.something, because it does what's
required, isn't broken and therefore doesn't need fixing. I've never
understood why people feel the need to constantly update perfectly
working systems.

PS. The Pi3 has more than enough grunt to run DRC. Peak CPU hits about
30% when new songs start, and once they're playing CPU usage is about 3%



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread bwaldron


agbagb wrote: 
> "Best" is very subjective of course - but I've run LMS and Squeezebox
> arrays on Windows (currently Win11) with very, very few problems, for
> many, many years.  
> 
> Maybe I'm that "lucky customer" but I've had very, very few general
> Windows hiccups at all, in any regard, over 20+ years.
> 
> BTW, we are a Win / Mac / Linux household, so I have cross-platform
> experience!  And I stand by Windows as, overall, as good as any.  Horses
> for courses, of course.

Yes, same here. Perhaps lucky as well, but have run the server on
Windows since my first Squeezebox in 2004 without any OS-specific
issues. For the past few years on a little NUC that runs like a champ.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
> Brexit has made life weird. I now use Amazon.de a good deal (because
> they seem to want the displaced uk users - they have english option), 
> but for some goods (i.e. electrical UK plug, PC keyboards) I'll use
> amazon.co.uk - Amazon deal with all custom & duty up to €150 - not sure
> what happens above €150. For other UK onlin e shopping I used a UK based
> reshipper which deal with required custom declarations etc. 
> Not used amazon.fr (yet) as no english option and can see little
> difference between UK and FR.  I have also bought from amazon.it as
> there is some price difference/availability with some products -
> strange.

Brexit has f®cked up pretty much everything.  I have given up buying
anything from the UK - too many customs hassles and items being delayed
for weeks.  

More significant is the loss of freedom of movement and loss of civil &
political rights. 

Still, Boris The Bodger and His Pals have done well out of it.





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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread chill


I ordered a couple of Raspiaudio Muse Proto boards from Amazon.de
because Amazon.co.uk didn't list any stock.  They're due to arrive on
Monday, having started their journey in or near Barcelona.  They're now
undergoing customs clearance in Mouscron in Belgium.  I have no idea
whether I'll have any extra to pay.  Shipping was only 4 Euro for the
two.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread bpa

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I suppose being in the EU Amazon.fr is OK for you 

Brexit has made life weird. I now use Amazon.de a good deal (because
they seem to want the displaced uk users - they have english option), 
but for some goods (i.e. electrical UK plug, PC keyboards) I'll use
amazon.co.uk - Amazon deal with all custom & duty up to €150 - not sure
what happens above €150. For other UK onlin e shopping I used a UK based
reshipper which deal with required custom declarations etc. 
Not used amazon.fr (yet) as no english option and can see little
difference between UK and FR.  I have also bought from amazon.it as
there is some price difference/availability with some products -
strange.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> I ordered from their website on 12th (I think) and I think even then it
> said "on backorder"  - very very shortly afterwards, ordering moved to
> Amazon.
> Delivery is coming from Amazon.fr - so I have a crossover order.I suppose 
> being in the EU Amazon.fr is OK for you [emoji1787]

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Where did you order your Raspiaudio player from? I only see it on
> Amazon.fr and they are sold out.
I ordered from their website on 12th (I think) - very very shortly
afterwards, ordering moved to Amazon.
Delivery is coming from Amazon.fr - so I have a crossover order.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> It used to be "low power" meant "limited functionality". Now with Pi4
> and even CORE32 - these units are not only low power but can support
> sync on many players, do full transcoding and possible DRC and other
> processing stuff. It is also now simpler to add a Pi based LMS than play
> around with custom NAS builds. Although for some NAS there is a Docker
> alternative.
> 
> The LMS ecosystem has also been improved by the availability of the low
> cost, quick to start ESP32 based players as an genuine alternative to
> bridged BT/UPNP/Airplay speakers. 
> * PI3/4 based players are now the high end/highly customisable "player"
> solution. 
> * Pi Zero cheaper but still with PCP
> * ESP32 - Philippe's excellent Squeezeamps, Polyvection DAC32 and now
> Raspiaudio products such as ready to go ESP Muse Luxe (mine is due on
> Fri)  and the prototype board ESP32 MUSE Proto
> https://forum.raspiaudio.com/t/multirooms-with-squeezelite-with-esp32-muse-proto/291Where
>  did you order your Raspiaudio player from? I only see it on
Amazon.fr and they are sold out.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Low.power options for LMS have come a long way from pogoplugs
> [emoji1787]

It used to be "low power" meant "limited functionality". Now with Pi4
and even CORE32 - these units are not only low power but can support
sync on many players, do full transcoding and possible DRC and other
processing stuff. It is also now simpler to add a Pi based LMS than play
around with custom NAS builds. Although for some NAS there is a Docker
alternative.

The LMS ecosystem has also been improved by the availability of the low
cost, quick to start ESP32 based players as an genuine alternative to
bridged BT/UPNP/Airplay speakers. 
* PI3/4 based players are now the high end/highly customisable "player"
solution. 
* Pi Zero cheaper but still with PCP
* ESP32 - Philippe's excellent Squeezeamps, Polyvection DAC32 and now
Raspiaudio products such as ready to go ESP Muse Luxe (mine is due on
Fri)  and the prototype board ESP32 MUSE Proto
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> Out of curiousity,I got a CORE32 at launch price which was better value.
> It sits there working, no maintenance, updates happen by themselves. As
> a tinkerer, I am little annoyed it doesn;t have the latest updates and
> worry what happens if Polyvection disappears - that said I have now
> unused old Odroid and Cubie boards which suffered from similar issues.
> 
> It is a conservative solution for user who want absolutely nothing to
> do.  Why do people pay for windowcleaners ? 
> For someone who wants to set up an LMS system for an elderly
> parent/relative - it probably provides "peace of mind" at a small once
> off price. It is probably a  "long tail" solution for a small number of
> users .
> 
> Polyvection may have got their business case a bit wrong before launch
> (and/or chip shortage)  which resulted in the now higher price than they
> first announced. They have included their own RTOS (for their own h/w
> design) so that means some ongoing extra port/test costs and also may
> explains few updates.  
> 
> It is good there is now a selection of very usable solutions available
> for users - each of which has pros/cons : Polyvection, Max2play,
> Picoreplayer, Raspbian, Windows etc.  The choice is the best for years -
> especially when I remember the early attempts of a cheap LMS on the
> NLSU2 (nicknamed Slug for a a good reason)Low.power options for LMS have come 
> a long way from pogoplugs
[emoji1787]

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread agbagb


Labarum wrote: 
> That is my experience too. Now, though, my PC is 15 years old and has
> run out of steam, and even with an SSD installed to try to speed it up
> it is no longer fit for purpose. Windows on an inadequate machine was
> causing me problems, not LMS on Windows; so last week I jumped ship to a
> Raspberry Pi 4 to run LMS. It uses a lot less power than a PC and costs
> a lot less to buy! I will keep the old PC for now and wind it up only
> when I must use Windows - that will not be often, says he typing on one
> of the latest Chromebooks.


For reasons not to do with LMS, I update my assorted Windows machine
every, say, 3 years.  So I've never really been subject to elderly
machines huffing and puffing  I did fire up a 12 year old
(spare) PC desktop a few months ago, just to keep it more-or-less
updated - and it was like wading through treacle!



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread Labarum


agbagb wrote: 
> I've run LMS and Squeezebox arrays on Windows (currently Win11) with
> very, very few problems, for many, many years.  
> 
> Maybe I'm that "lucky customer" but I've had very, very few general
> Windows hiccups at all, in any regard, over 20+ years.
> 

That is my experience too. Now, though, my PC is 15 years old and has
run out of steam, and even with an SSD installed to try to speed it up
it is no longer fit for purpose. Windows on an inadequate machine was
causing me problems, not LMS on Windows; so last week I jumped ship to a
Raspberry Pi 4 to run LMS. It uses a lot less power than a PC and costs
a lot less to buy! I will keep the old PC for now and wind it up only
when I must use Windows - that will not be often, says he typing on one
of the latest Chromebooks.



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Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp  - AVI
Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread zordaz


d6jg wrote: 
> piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days

Agreed! Although I am running LMS for years now on a customized barebone
PC with Linux, the most straightforward way of running it these days is
indeed piCorePlayer however.
A self installed, customized system is IMO a poweruser solution and more
suited for specific use cases (like mine).

Running it on a RPI also has advantages because of the power consumption
compared to running it on a PC or NAS btw.



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*Attic:* RPI2+HifiBerry DAC+ RCA & piCorePlayer
*Other rooms:* 6x SB Radio
*LMS*: Version 8.2.0 on Xubuntu 21.10

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread bpa


cliveb wrote: 
> While the Polyvection players look decent value, I can't see how the
> price of the CORE32 server can be justified. Setting up piCorePlayer as
> a LMS server on a RPi really is child's play, and can be done for less
> than half the cost of a CORE32.
Out of curiousity,I got a CORE32 at launch price which was better value.
It sits there working, no maintenance, updates happen by themselves. As
a tinkerer, I am little annoyed it doesn;t have the latest updates and
worry what happens if Polyvection disappears - that said I have now
unused old Odroid and Cubie boards which suffered from similar issues.

It is a conservative solution for user who want absolutely nothing to
do.  Why do people pay for windowcleaners ? 
For someone who wants to set up an LMS system for an elderly
parent/relative - it probably provides "peace of mind" at a small once
off price. It is probably a  "long tail" solution for a small number of
users .

Polyvection may have got their business case a bit wrong before launch
(and/or chip shortage)  which resulted in the now higher price than they
first announced. They have included their own RTOS (for their own h/w
design) so that means some ongoing extra port/test costs and also may
explains few updates.  

It is good there is now a selection of very usable solutions available
for users - each of which has pros/cons : Polyvection, Max2play,
Picoreplayer, Raspbian, Windows etc.  The choice is the best for years -
especially when I remember the early attempts of a cheap LMS on the
NLSU2 (nicknamed Slug for a a good reason)



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-18 Thread agbagb


"Best" is very subjective of course - but I've run LMS and Squeezebox
arrays on Windows (currently Win11) with very, very few problems, for
many, many years.  

Maybe I'm that "lucky customer" but I've had very, very few general
Windows hiccups at all, in any regard, over 20+ years.

BTW, we are a Win / Mac / Linux household, so I have cross-platform
experience!  And I stand by Windows as, overall, as good as any.  Horses
for courses, of course.



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Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread cliveb


P Nelson wrote: 
> I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection
> CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?
While the Polyvection players look decent value, I can't see how the
price of the CORE32 server can be justified. Setting up piCorePlayer as
a LMS server on a RPi really is child's play, and can be done for less
than half the cost of a CORE32.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread slartibartfast


P Nelson wrote: 
> I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection
> CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?Possibly. The downside is you become 
> reliant on them for updates.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread Labarum


P Nelson wrote: 
> I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection
> CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?

Possibly the easiest, but if someone is prepared to consider configuring
a NAS then ease and cost might be in the balance. PiCorePlayer on a
Raspberry Pi might hit the sweetspot and therefore qualify as the "best"
asked for; being not too expensive, not too difficult to manage and very
reliable.



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread P Nelson


d6jg wrote: 
> piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days

I cannot confirm this because I don't have one, but would polyvection
CORE32 be the easiest way to run LMS?



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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread Labarum


d6jg wrote: 
> piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days

That must be true. With a little help from folk on this forum I got
piCorePlayer running in half an hour and then got on with the LMS
adjustment, which was easy because I have used it for years.

I abandoned running it on an ageing PC because of Windows hiccups.



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Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp  - AVI
Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread d6jg


mherger wrote: 
> > What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?
> 
> TrueNAS is BSD based. Not easiest either.
> 
> I'd say... piCorePlayer on a Pi :-)

piCorePlayer is definitely the easiest by some way these days



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[B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas  -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s

*Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s 
*Dining Room* SB Radio
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread Michael Herger

What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?


TrueNAS is BSD based. Not easiest either.

I'd say... piCorePlayer on a Pi :-)
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Re: [slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread d6jg


Probably not Windows



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[slim] Lms

2022-01-17 Thread stigne


What is best to use for LMS, windows, unraid, proxmox or truenas?



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Re: [slim] LMS plugin allowing digital time delay

2021-10-21 Thread cliveb


nils92 wrote: 
> Thanks cliveb, I'm progressing !
> I managed to create an effective custom-convert file through SSH, and so
> could test your code.
> But, when using for instance the  instruction in the line
> code, I do indeed have a time delay effect of 1s, but this time delay is
> not applied to the right speaker as opposed to the left one, as I would
> need it to. Instead, it generates an echo of 1s of the audio stream for
> both left and right speakers. So left and right remain aligned. Perhaps
> "channel 1" is not pointing to left speaker, and "channel 2" to right
> speaker ?
Sorry, but I've never used the delay option with SOX, so I don't have
direct experience with how it might behave. Nor am I keen on fiddling
around with my own custom-convert file to try it out, so I'm afraid
you'll have to conduct your own experiments.

nils92 wrote: 
> I tried to sort things out with the sox manual, but to say the truth
> with my level of knowledge I'm having a bit of a hard time, as I do not
> find that instructions such as "multi-threaded", "no-clobber" are very
> much explicited...
multi-threaded just tells SOX to use multiple cores to do its
processing, if the CPU you're using has them, which might speed up
processing a touch. You don't have to include that option.

no-clobber causes SOX to prompt before overwriting an output file, which
is generally a good option to include. But in the context of using it
with LMS, it's pretty much redundant. Can't hurt to include it, though.



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Re: [slim] LMS plugin allowing digital time delay

2021-10-20 Thread nils92


cliveb wrote: 
> I don't think the C-3PO plugin is relevant. I run SOX in a
> custom-convert to do room correction EQ and the C-3PO plugin is not
> active in my LMS (which is running in pCP on a RPi3).
> 
> You're right that you don't need to replicate the standard convert.conf
> in your custom-convert - it just needs to override the standard stuff
> for the particular file types and players of interest. I'd say your file
> should look something like:
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > flc flc * 
  > [sox] -q --multi-threaded --no-clobber -t flac $FILE$ -t flac - delay 0 
0.003
  > 

> > 
> This is assuming your source files are FLAC. If you use some other
> format, you'd need to change the file type, eg. for MP3:
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > mp3 flc * 
  > [sox] -q --multi-threaded --no-clobber -t mp3 $FILE$ -t flac - delay 0 0.003
  > 

> > 
> You make a good point about whether SOX will accept 0.003 to represent
> 3ms of delay, and the issue of different sample rates if you instead
> specify samples.
> I guess you'll just have to experiment.
> 
> One last comment: when I tried loading a custom-convert using pCP's
> upload facility, it kept complaining that the file was the wrong
> format, so I had to manually set it up with an editor while SSH'd into
> the machine.

Thanks cliveb, I'm progressing !
I managed to create an effective custom-convert file through SSH, and so
could test your code.
But, when using for instance the  instruction in the line
code, I do indeed have a time delay effect of 1s, but this time delay is
not applied to the right speaker as opposed to the left one, as I would
need it to. Instead, it generates an echo of 1s of the audio stream for
both left and right speakers. So left and right remain aligned. Perhaps
"channel 1" is not pointing to left speaker, and "channel 2" to right
speaker ?

I tried to sort things out with the sox manual, but to say the truth
with my level of knowledge I'm having a bit of a hard time, as I do not
find that instructions such as "multi-threaded", "no-clobber" are very
much explicited...

I'll let it sleep overnight before coming back to it ;-)

And by the way, indeed no use of C-3PO to run Sox.



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