[FairfieldLife] Re: Final solution to illegal immigration ( A Nazi Concept) Ya, ya, ya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/15/06 8:42:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: Not only will [massive deportation of illegal immigrants] work, but one can easily estimate how long it would take. If it took the Germans less than four years to rid themselves of 6 million Jews, many of whom spoke German and were fully integrated into German society, it couldn't possibly take more than eight years to deport 12 million illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English and are not integrated into American society. Do we have that many trains that run to Nuevo Auschwitz? Don't be a fool; We've seen the movie and it sucks, Big Time! Uh, Robert, I believe he's expressing disgust, not approval. Oh, sorry, I misunderstood; I just have strong views on the subject, so thanks for letting me blow of some steam... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: The shift from a bound self to a non-localized Self is pure acausal grace that can not be enacted from the side of the bound mind. And if the shift occurs, and there is something acausal, then what does the acausal thing have to do with the shift? Nothing. Unless you believe it does. And then you're stuck with your belief, which implies boundaries and is no longer the thing you're examining. You have shifted back. This appear so be a non-statment. Or one of no consequence. A has nothing to do with B. B shifts. (So why bring up A?) Habit. If the grace is causal, then on one level, there is some meaning in the statement. What's wrong with all statements having exactly the amount of meaning? That is, only the amount we give to them. But grace implies something outside of IT. Thus its support on someting. Which contradicts prior statements. And contradiction is bad exactly why? It sounds like these statements of this genre are personal interpretations of an experience. They may be correct, clear, insightful interpretations, they may be fuzzy, inconsistent and distoreted. But they make sense to the interpreter. At one particular point and from one particular point of view and state of attention. If the interpreter shifts states of attention, he or she may say the exact opposite, with an equal degree of conviction. And *both* make sense to the interpreter. And *both* have the same degree of truth. That is, none. Like I intepret the sun rising every morning. It works for me. It IS what I see. It resonates with me. But I know its an incorrect interpretation of whats really going on. And you know this how? Because someone told you another interpretation, and you give it (and the teller's state of attention and point of view, from which this second interpretation is true and another is not) more than you did your own state of mind and point of view? But these types of interpretations are more akin to poetry that is trying to describe love or beauty, not an internally- consistent and logical truth. What makes you believe that truth is either internally consistent or logical? I mean, READ the words of those who have realized enlightenment over the centuries. They seem to be consistent only in the sense that they agree, when pinned down, that there is no internal consistency or logic that can be applied to the description of enlightenment. In fact, pretty much the only thing they agree on is that it can't be described. I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. In my view, this desire to understand is a natural phenomenon, but it's one that is based on the unenlight- ened self trying to survive, when in fact for enlight- enment to be realized, that limited intellectual self has to be discarded or, at the very least, ignored. What if enlightenment (or whatever you choose to call it) can NEVER be accurately measured or described? It seems to me that situation creates a couple of interesting Catch-22s. The first is that attempts *to* measure it or describe it accurately become exercises in pushing enlightenment away, not embracing its mysteries and inherent contradictions. The second is the importance of trust -- trusting one's own experience, even though it may seem internally inconsistent and non-logical. Your poetry analogy is onto something. Poets don't really mind if they describe a flower (or something less tangible, like love) differently from poem to poem. Each poem captures a small subjective aspect of the thing you're writing the poems about; *none* of the poems capture the thing itself. And that's Ok. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
Thank you for your candid response.! I too see things in shades of gray... Personally TM and being a sidha has been very good to me. I also realize it's not necessarily good for everyone.. I just don't feel we need to pay such high prices for the knowledge... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am new here... Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here? Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many who sign up and then forget about it and never read the stuff. Howmany live in Faifield? Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town. Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org documnents...? Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see the world in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things, which is always mixed. At least that's my attitude. I think you nailed it, Dr. Archer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one�click away.� Make Yahoo! your home page�now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Advanced Tehniques...
This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantra.)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? The question could be simplified. Is there any reason that anyone who has learned the basic TM technique should think that there is any value in learning an advanced technique PERIOD, whether they learn it officially or not? Based on my experience, I would have to say that the answer is a big, fat NO. I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that they don't do diddleysquat. Your mileage may vary. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
In a Pure Capitalist economy, things are dictated purely by 'Demand and Supply'. In a competitive field where there are 40,000 TM teachers and other Spiritual cults, Is it wise for the TM-org to fix such high, exorbitant price for TM..?? I think, Somebody is misguiding Maharishi.?? Stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:42:08 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?Thank you for your candid response.! I too see things in shades of gray...Personally TM and being a sidha has been very good to me. I also realize it's not necessarily good for everyone..I just don't feel we need to pay such high prices for the knowledge... Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S FWIW, I recall a guy here in F-land, East of Sweden, asking whether he could return to the basic technique. He obviously didn't like the advanced technique mantras. I think the answer was something like that it shouldn't be done. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter "O' . The o's run off without control.No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!???A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both.You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] ShempMcgurk , Have your Seen Maharishi Effect..??
Sir ShempMcGurk, Have you seen the Maharishi effect.?? How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh? you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter O' . The o's run off without control. No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!??? A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both. You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? Eckart Tolle, is a teacher, who has a girl-friend. Why are people so obsessed with this. Is it an _expression_ of sexual frustration on the part of the accuser? You know sex is not some kind of evil thing, is it? Isn't that how we all got into this physical world? Did your parents ever have sex? Where they bad people for having sex, and mixing thier egg and sperm? Ah, by the way, the news now, is Jesus had sex, with Mary Magdalene... Does that make his teachings less true. Or just undermine the patriarchical power structure created by the Romans and propagated through the centuries, to shame and guilt people onto submission. Might as well get used to it. Sex is here to stay, and has little to do with anything besides being pleasurable, a way to express affection, and maintain the species. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
TorquoiseB writes: sniped I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, Tom T; Yes agree on this point., TorquiseB: and that they don't do diddleysquat. Your mileage may vary. Tom T; My experience is that mileage was increased substantially. Especially the one known as the A of E Technique. It could only be appreciated for its subtlety afer awakening. The others also played a role but that particular one was part of the dynamite that eventually made the difference. But, your mileage may also vary. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
TorquiseB writes snipped I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. In my view, this desire to understand is a natural phenomenon, but it's one that is based on the unenlight- ened self trying to survive, when in fact for enlight- enment to be realized, that limited intellectual self has to be discarded or, at the very least, ignored. Tom T; This thing called Enlightenment or Awakening is the ultimate paradox. It can be lived but anything and everything one can say about IT can also be both true and untrue at the same time as it can not acurately be put into words. We are all able to point to IT and still not get it right. Just be willing to live the paradox and see where that takes you. TOm T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
Jim Flanegin writes Snipped: IT is the simultaneous phenomenon, and all the causitive correlates are IT also. In the second case, IT causes itself. Again, we are fooled into thinking we are the cause of IT, when in fact, IT is the cause of IT. We just don't realize IT when we are fooled into thinking we are the cause of IT. Tom T: An analogy is to think about sitting in front of a 10 million candlewatt strobe light with the eyes closed and wearing an eye mask. THe effect of all that light will leave an imprint on the physiology even if the light is not directly percieved. The shock of the shift of indentification from self to SELF has the same kind of effect on the physiology. It is not directly percieved but known to have happened as an experience as the shift is too powerful to have not been noticed because of the shift of the identity point from small and limited to unbounded and infinite. TOm T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? Theoretically, it should not matter. What might matter is 1) whether the teacher says one thing in public and does another in private, indicating a tendency to lie, or 2) whether the relationships with students are clean, meaning that they Do No Harm. The latter is rather difficult to assess, as are all actions. We kinda have to use our common sense. The True Believer can claim all day that the teacher really knew what he was doing and that his actions were correct on some cosmic level until he's blue in the face, but if on a common sense level the female student who was seduced by the teacher wound up having to go through years of intensive psychiatric care to get over it, I think we can safely question the cosmic wisdom of screwing around. (This is not an empty analogy; I have known several women for whom it was literally true.) The former is more clearcut. If the teacher claims one thing in public and does something very different in private, or allows that 'something different' to be widely believed when he knows it isn't true, then you've definitely got a trust issue going on. The teacher feels it's Ok to lie to his students. Again, True Believers may find a way to live with this, but on the level of common sense, I think it raises a pretty big red flag. Just to clarify, *theoretically* I have no problem with teachers sleeping with their students. There are long and valuable traditions in the East in which this is done. *Practically* and *pragmatically* (that is, from the level of common sense) I think it's one of the dumbest damned things any teacher could possibly do, especially in the West with Western students, who are simply not psychically prepared for such an interaction. Westerners tend to bring too many assumptions to the sexual experience to be truly open to a Tantric relationship. Eckart Tolle, is a teacher, who has a girl-friend. And has always been open about it, as far as I know. Why are people so obsessed with this. Often because they're uneasy with sex, but also in some cases because of the two situations I discuss above. Is it an _expression_ of sexual frustration on the part of the accuser? Not always. That's one way that True Believers try to write off concern over this issue. In my case, I screw around a *lot*, so I don't think that's the issue. However, I reserve the right to use my common sense when a teacher clearly lies about his behavior, or when common sense tells me that behavior has been detrimental to the woman or women involved. You know sex is not some kind of evil thing, is it? Isn't that how we all got into this physical world? Did your parents ever have sex? Where they bad people for having sex, and mixing thier egg and sperm? Ah, by the way, the news now, is Jesus had sex, with Mary Magdalene... Does that make his teachings less true. Or just undermine the patriarchical power structure created by the Romans and propagated through the centuries, to shame and guilt people onto submission. Might as well get used to it. Sex is here to stay, and has little to do with anything besides being pleasurable, a way to express affection, and maintain the species. But all this stuff ALSO has no relationship whatsoever to the ethical and practical issues involved. They are still relevant, *whatever* one thinks of sex. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advanced Tehniques...
On May 16, 2006, at 4:02 AM, stadspark wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S I think it's insane to pay the price for what should really have been given as part of the basic technique. I'd look elsewhere and seek to preserve the integrity of your personal practice, all the while deepening your own practice. For example, one can receive the *entire* mantra for your TM devata mantra from Amma (or many other sources). Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches one of the (IMO) very, very important advanced techniques as part of his basic meditation technique I am told, so that's an inexpensive way to get that technique--and of course SSRS has a lineal connection to the TMO. That's the nice thing about lineage: there's always more than one person you can go to for answers. The Age of Enlightenment technique is really just a traditional Hindu meditation used daily by many devout Hindus, albeit somewhat watered down. If this type of thing appeals to you, I'd suggest finding an old uncertified independent governor (who far out number the certified ones!) who can give you the technique and then make a donation to your favorite charity. You really have a lot of options--and many of them will lie outside the TM movement or use independent teachers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Final solution to illegal immigration ( A Nazi Concep...
In a message dated 5/15/06 10:37:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do we have that many trains that run to Nuevo Auschwitz?Don't be a fool; We've seen the movie and it sucks, Big Time! Mercy, stop and take some deep breaths! Now, what movie are you talking about? Schindlers List, Fahrenheit 911, or some Oliver Stone movie? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Final solution to illegal immigration
In a message dated 5/15/06 11:01:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do we have that many trains that run to Nuevo Auschwitz?Boy, you said it. We could probably build muchmore efficient ovens and gas chambers these days,though.This appalling column appeared in WorldNet Daily,by the way (one of Shemp's favorite right-wingpublications). But... with NAFTA and everything we could export those jobs and build those furnaces right in Mexico. We could have Centers for legal immigration and documentation set up. A little sign above the gates saying " Guest Worker Program Macht Frei" Just think of the savings! No increase in border patrol, no military on the border, no fences, no deportation hearings, no deportation, plenty of jobs for Mexicans! My God! It could work!! sorry , I didn't read the column, just letting my imagination run wild. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
In a message dated 5/16/06 3:10:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question could be simplified. Is there any reasonthat anyone who has learned the basic TM techniqueshould think that there is any value in learning an"advanced technique" PERIOD, whether they learn itofficially or not? Based on my experience, I wouldhave to say that the answer is a big, fat NO.I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject-ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the"advanced techniques" I received while part of theTM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that theydon't do diddleysquat. Sorry I have to disagree here. I received several of the advanced techniques and found most of them did exactly what they were supposed to do, slow down transcending and keep one in the subtler levels of meditation longer, instead of the quick in and out several times per meditation. I don't have all of them but I won't pay the price demanded now days, so I'll make do with what I have. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Final solution to illegal immigration ( A Nazi Concep...
In a message dated 5/15/06 11:05:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't be a fool; We've seen the movie and it sucks, Big Time!Uh, Robert, I believe he's expressing disgust, notapproval. Bingo! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
The political and business worlds are filled with examples of well intentioned but flawed men who gradually went astray as they gained more and more power. Power corrupts and all that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh? you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter O' . The o's run off without control. No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!??? A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both. You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The political and business worlds are filled with examples of well intentioned but flawed men who gradually went astray as they gained more and more power. Power corrupts and all that. My 'take' on what really happens in spiritual organizations is a permutation of this old saying: Attention corrupts, and absolute attention corrupts absolutely. It's not so much the power IMO; it's all those people focusing on the teacher and the teacher being unable to handle the psychic impact of that attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh? you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at jedi_spock@ wrote: Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter O' . The o's run off without control. No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!??? A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both. You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: snip But these types of interpretations are more akin to poetry that is trying to describe love or beauty, not an internally- consistent and logical truth. What makes you believe that truth is either internally consistent or logical? Rather than the truth that enlightenment is *not* either internally consistent or logical? Beware the infinite regress; beware the category error. I mean, READ the words of those who have realized enlightenment over the centuries. They seem to be consistent only in the sense that they agree, when pinned down, that there is no internal consistency or logic that can be applied to the description of enlightenment. In fact, pretty much the only thing they agree on is that it can't be described. I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. In my view, this desire to understand is a natural phenomenon, but it's one that is based on the unenlight- ened self trying to survive, when in fact for enlight- enment to be realized, that limited intellectual self has to be discarded or, at the very least, ignored. What if enlightenment (or whatever you choose to call it) can NEVER be accurately measured or described? It seems to me that situation creates a couple of interesting Catch-22s. The first is that attempts *to* measure it or describe it accurately become exercises in pushing enlightenment away, not embracing its mysteries and inherent contradictions. Actually, for some, wrestling with the contradictions can be a path to realization as the intellect demonstrates to itself that it is not just not up to the challenge but fundamentally irrelevant, because the challenge itself--of understanding enlightenment-- is irrelevant and utterly meaningless. For the intellect to decide prematurely that enlightenment is inherently contradictory--on the basis, say, of having READ the words of those who have realized enlightenment over the centuries-- makes the experiential truth of its contradictory nature into a *concept* which the intellect can uphold. This can strengthen the intellect rather than leading it to convince itself--on its own terms-- that it is superfluous. One can, in other words, work both sides of the fence: repeatedly have the experience of the contradictory nature of enlightenment, while at the same time helping the intellect dig its own grave by forcing it to slam itself repeatedly against the contradictions until it knocks itself out. *Of course* the self is going to fight for its survival; that's a given, that's its nature. If it's an especially tough and hardy self, it may be more effective to cheer it on, to encourage it to exert itself to the point of exhaustion, than to try to suppress it. Different strokes for different folks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] MMY UK Fatwa - One year on. (Was: A letter to Maharishi).
Yes, I agree. What his handlers do not realise is that their identities and practices will remain covered until MMY dies. At that time, their activities are going to leak out and the devasting effect that they have had on the TMO will come out. They will be named,shamed, and blamed for the fact that the movement has run off the motorway and is down an embankment, upside down with its wheeels slowly spinning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't it be interesting if he ever got to read this letter? But of course that can never happen. Even if you sent it, his handlers would filter it out and make sure he never saw it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharish Mahesh Yogi, Vlodrop, Netherlands. May 11, 2006. 0.00 BST. Dear Maharishi, A year ago, you banned the giving of Guru Dev's gift to anybody in the British Isles. This was because Tony Blair was returned to power at the General Election as a result of 22% of those on the voting list voting for him. It is reasonable to suppose that you imagined that this would have some sort of special impact on the UK. During this year, Nature has sent misfortunes. Some are listed below: 1. Pakistan. Earthquake. October. 70,000+ dead. 2. USA. Hurricane Katrina. 1600 estimated dead 3. Phillipines. Mud landslide. Feb 16. 1,500+ die 4. USA. Hurrican Stan. Guatamala. 1513 dead. 5. India. Earthquake. Oct. 1300 dead. 6. Iraq. Bagdad. Aug 31 1000 dead panic stampede 7. India. Maharashtra floods of July. 1000 killed 8. Egypt. Ferry capsizes. Feb 2nd. 1,000+ 9. China. Floods. June. 771 died. 10. Nigeria. Measles epidemic. 561 dead. 11. Mecca, Mina. Jan. 360 die in panic 12. Iraq. Jan 4. 200 dead in retaliatory bloodshed 13. Baghdad. Al Zakarwi's return. 150 die in a day 14. India. Gujarat Floods. 123 killed. July 2005 15. USA. Hurricane Rita. 119 die 16. Baghdad. July 17. +100 killed car bomb 17. Iraq. September 29. 95 die in set of bombs 18. Nigeria. Christian/Islamic riots.80 die.Feb 23 19. Iraq. 79 killed. Attack on mosque. April 7. 20. Iraq. Nov 18. 74 dead. Shia East Iraq. Bombs 21. Iraq. Crowded market bomb. 71 killed. May 11. 22. Iraq. Ramadi 70 killed. (by mistake?) Oct 17 23. Mexico City. 66 die in coach crash April 17. 24. Iran. Earthquake. Mar 31. 66+ killed 25. Mexico. mining disaster. 65 killed. Feb 19. 26. Poland. Roof collapse (snow). 62 dead. Jan 28 27. *** France. 14 days of riots. 4,000 cars burnt. 28. *** Central Europe. Floods. Aug 2005 29. Russia. Roof collapse. 57 killed. Feb 23rd 30. Bahrain. Pleasure boat sinks. 57 die. Mar 30. At No. 27, 28, I have included two events which are rather strange. I believe that although they involved little or no loss of life, they should be still be listed. The British Isles did suffer a misfortune; on July 7, suicide bombers blew up three underground trains. Since the list is based on loss of life, this incident does not merit inclusion. It would feature somewhere down in the thirties or, because the list is not complete, possibly in the forties. I would ask you one question, Maharishi: Do you rate your actions on May 11 2005 a success? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? There's a very long tradition, possibly based on experience, that when sexual energy is sublimated, it facilitates the process of enlightenment. In some cases this allegedly purely practical value of celibacy in *gaining* enlightenment gets intertwined with the notion that celibacy demonstrates perfect nonattachment to desires, i.e., that it is a characteristic of one who has *achieved* enlightenment. And this can result in two corollary notions: (a) deliberately frustrating sexual desire (as opposed to sublimating it) leads to nonattachment, and (b) the teacher who is not celibate must not be enlightened, and therefore is not qualified to teach. Add to this mix the cultural value of virtue, i.e., that sex for anything but procreation is inherently evil, and you end up with quite a judgmental mess. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: My Pain, My Brain] from the Hut to the Palace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: [...] Not only does my behavior mimic the patterns of illusion I was so used to, I am able to see these illusions instantly, because that is exactly what they are. Since there is no longer any knowledge inherent in these echoes from the past, no desire manifests to keep them alive, and they are then easily dispelled. Who dispells? We all do. We? Oui. Ouink, Ouink... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes: sniped I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, Tom T; Yes agree on this point., TorquiseB: and that they don't do diddleysquat. Your mileage may vary. Tom T; My experience is that mileage was increased substantially. *And* that they're only a mechanism to charge people more money? My experience (of my single advanced technique) was also of a substantial increase in mileage: meditation became much deeper and much more subtle. It did, for a while, inhibit transcending, but ultimately resulted in transcending itself becoming deeper and more subtle. I can understand why someone might be dismayed at the initial inhibition of transcending and want to go back to their original mantra, but my understanding of what MMY teaches about the advanced techniques is that this is what they're *designed* to do: slow down the transcending process so that one becomes more intimately familiar with the more subtle levels of the mind, enlivening them in a way that zipping through them directly to transcendental consciousness cannot achieve. And this has certainly been my experience. Especially the one known as the A of E Technique. It could only be appreciated for its subtlety afer awakening. The others also played a role but that particular one was part of the dynamite that eventually made the difference. But, your mileage may also vary. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your candid response.! I too see things in shades of gray... Personally TM and being a sidha has been very good to me. I also realize it's not necessarily good for everyone.. I just don't feel we need to pay such high prices for the knowledge... Why not? Do lower prices for this stuff attract the right kind of people to the organization? Elitist snobs run the world, and elistist snobs are, well, elistist. If you want to change elitist snobs via meditation, the most direct way to do it is to appeal to their elitism in order to get them to learn and pratice meditation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: What you say sounds right, and I hope it is true, but how do you really know that CC has nothing to do with brain function? How do you know that the experience that consciousness is separate from the body is more than just a sense created by the brain? I am asking this because I want to know, not to be difficult. This is what I wonder about alot. Maharishi talk about 'Whole Brain Functioning' Many of the studies that have been done, on people experiencing 'Witnessing' or CC is that the brain is functioning in a coherent way. Maharishi has always said that there are physical correlates to 'states of consciousness' There are other methods of culturing 'whole brain functioning: Check out: centerpointe.com/ and the use of holosync technology to produce coherent brain functioning. And the evidence that holosynch technology produces the same effect (s) as TM is found... where? I don't where the evidence is except to say it is from my personal experience; in that I have found using the holosync thingy, is a sort of adjunct for me, in deepening my experience of TM, and Sanyama... The series of CD's are arranged so that they progressively induce a deeper and deeper state, in terms of lower frequency brain wave patterns; well into the Delta range, which is generally only experiened in deep sleep. So, in other words: It forces the mind into progressively slower brain wave patterns; which Bill Harris(Founder of the Company, and TM'er), so that for me it just has strenthened my experence in general. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I like the idea of just listening to the CD, sometimes.. I still do TM regularly, and other techniques as well. Guess I'm a bit of a meditation junkie... TM isn't practiced for experiences during TM. Forcing the brain into a certain mode may not be particularly healthy, regardless of what mode it is forced into. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? Theoretically, it should not matter. What might matter is 1) whether the teacher says one thing in public and does another in private, indicating a tendency to lie, or 2) whether the relationships with students are clean, meaning that they Do No Harm. The latter is rather difficult to assess, as are all actions. We kinda have to use our common sense. The True Believer can claim all day that the teacher really knew what he was doing and that his actions were correct on some cosmic level until he's blue in the face, but if on a common sense level the female student who was seduced by the teacher wound up having to go through years of intensive psychiatric care to get over it, I think we can safely question the cosmic wisdom of screwing around. Nothing wrong with questioning; it's *concluding* that could be a problem. We can only go with our common-sense judgment, of course, but IMHO we should leave a corner of the mind open to the cosmic wisdom possibility--for example, that the intensive psychiatric care was beneficial to the woman in other ways than simply getting over the trauma of the seduction. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S So you think you can teach yourself to learn something from a book because you already learned something else? That's only a question you can answer for yourself. I've learned several (4? 5?) advanced techniques over the years and I've known about minet and so on for a very long time. The very concept of learning an advanced technique from minet is something I can't even consider as an option (note can't rather than won't). As to whether or not this is a realistic/healthy/sane attitude on my part, who can say? You have to make your own decisions about what is realistic/healthy/sane FOR YOU. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advanced Techniques...
I learned all the TM advanced techniques. Most of them involve adding syllables to the mantra, the explanation being that these culture the heart, slow down the process of transcending so that you can become more familiar with the subtle relative, etc. The argument against getting them from a web site is that being initiated properly imbues the mantra with shakti, or power, which makes it more effective. I know people who got all the advanced techniques and now just do their original TM mantra. I use a mantra I got from Amma (Ammachi), which has about as many syllables as my TM mantra ended up having. She's got plenty of shakti. I guess I'm not really answering your question. I'm just giving you some explanations which might help you make your own decision. I do think that aside from whatever subtle benefits the additions to the mantra might have, the TMO sees advanced techniques as one of its cash cows. on 5/16/06 3:02 AM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantra.)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? The question could be simplified. Is there any reason that anyone who has learned the basic TM technique should think that there is any value in learning an advanced technique PERIOD, whether they learn it officially or not? Based on my experience, I would have to say that the answer is a big, fat NO. I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that they don't do diddleysquat. Your mileage may vary. You also don't consider TM worth doing period, any more. YMMV indeed... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] cabbie interviewed instead of media expert
BBC interview a cabbie by accident, thinking he was a media expert (doesn't he handle it well!!): http://img.dailymail.co.uk/video/cabbie.wmv To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Final solution to illegal immigration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/15/06 11:01:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do we have that many trains that run to Nuevo Auschwitz? Boy, you said it. We could probably build much more efficient ovens and gas chambers these days, though. This appalling column appeared in WorldNet Daily, by the way (one of Shemp's favorite right-wing publications). But... with NAFTA and everything we could export those jobs and build those furnaces right in Mexico. We could have Centers for legal immigration and documentation set up. A little sign above the gates saying Guest Worker Program Macht Frei Just think of the savings! No increase in border patrol, no military on the border, no fences, no deportation hearings, no deportation, plenty of jobs for Mexicans! My God! It could work!! Sorry, I didn't read the column, just letting my imagination run wild. In fairness, the writer wasn't suggesting any of this and would most likely be outraged to think anyone would take it that way. What's so appalling about what he wrote is exactly this, however--that it *didn't* occur to him how awful it would sound. The level of insensitivity is mind-boggling. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantra.)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? The question could be simplified. Is there any reason that anyone who has learned the basic TM technique should think that there is any value in learning an advanced technique PERIOD, whether they learn it officially or not? Based on my experience, I would have to say that the answer is a big, fat NO. I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that they don't do diddleysquat. Your mileage may vary. I learned plain vanilla TM and then after awhile learned the Siddhis as a result of a work credit program. I never learned an advanced technique, because I always had my hands full with the basic stuff, and there was something about the way they were marketed where we were just supposed to get them on faith, because they were 'advanced'. There seemed to be a two-tier system of knowledge in the TMO. On the one hand the TM technique and TM Siddhis techniques, which had clear benefits outlined and were heavily proslytized and sold. Then there was all the other stuff, jyotish, advanced techniques, gandarva ved, sthpatya ved, mapi, etc. Intuitively I found that it was much harder to take advantage of the second tier stuff, so I stayed away from it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a Pure Capitalist economy, things are dictated purely by 'Demand and Supply'. In a competitive field where there are 40,000 TM teachers and other Spiritual cults, Is it wise for the TM-org to fix such high, exorbitant price for TM..?? I think, Somebody is misguiding Maharishi.?? Nope. MMY's stated goal is to appeal to elitist snobs because they run the world. Leaving aside questions about whether or not TM will be of value to them (and thereby of greater value to the rest of the world because the rich and elite are getting something out of their TM practice), the decision to charge lots of money for TM practice to appeal directly to the elite is perfectly valid and sane. I mean, do you think your average CEO surfs the net to find minet and learns to meditate from a website, as an extreme opposite-end example? Even if they did, do you think that the CEO of IBM would instruct his employees to go to the same website, or would he hire expensive consultants to teach in-house? Keep in mind that he has to justify ANY expense by documenting it to the board of directors. Where's the 30 year's research on the minet technique documented? Can you PROVE to the accountant's satisfaction that the minet site instructions have the same effect as TM? Can he prove that setting aside 20 minutes twice-a-day to practice minet meditation is justifiable? He MAY be able to do it with TM, but not with the website technique, regardless of whether or not there is a measureable difference between them. No-one is going to sponsor the measurements in the first place so the assertion can never be proven to the accountants' satisfaction. Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S FWIW, I recall a guy here in F-land, East of Sweden, asking whether he could return to the basic technique. He obviously didn't like the advanced technique mantras. I think the answer was something like that it shouldn't be done. Given what the advanced techniques are supposed to do, that makes sense. Besides, in MY experience, I often end up practicing a less advanced technique, and as always, once I notice this, I return to the advanced technique. Not a problem, either way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural- Law..?? Iin the long run, he just might. Look at the long-term effects of TM practice. They are, in every obvious case, the exact opposite of the state that a criminal is in no matter how intellectual and charming. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh? you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at jedi_spock@ wrote: Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter O' . The o's run off without control. No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!??? A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both. You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? Eckart Tolle, is a teacher, who has a girl-friend. Why are people so obsessed with this. Is it an _expression_ of sexual frustration on the part of the accuser? You know sex is not some kind of evil thing, is it? Isn't that how we all got into this physical world? Did your parents ever have sex? Where they bad people for having sex, and mixing thier egg and sperm? Ah, by the way, the news now, is Jesus had sex, with Mary Magdalene... Does that make his teachings less true. Or just undermine the patriarchical power structure created by the Romans and propagated through the centuries, to shame and guilt people onto submission. Might as well get used to it. Sex is here to stay, and has little to do with anything besides being pleasurable, a way to express affection, and maintain the species. Sex can be a very negative experience or lead to very negative experiences, also. Suffice to say that it is a very POWERFUL physical and emotional activity and like any other POWERFUL thing, it has greater potential for abuse and misuse than less POWERFUL things. YMMV of course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/16/06 3:10:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question could be simplified. Is there any reason that anyone who has learned the basic TM technique should think that there is any value in learning an advanced technique PERIOD, whether they learn it officially or not? Based on my experience, I would have to say that the answer is a big, fat NO. I'm being honest here, not contrary. I never subject- ively perceived any value whatsoever in any of the advanced techniques I received while part of the TM organization. I think they are and always were an mechanism to charge people more money, and that they don't do diddleysquat. Sorry I have to disagree here. I received several of the advanced techniques and found most of them did exactly what they were supposed to do, slow down transcending and keep one in the subtler levels of meditation longer, instead of the quick in and out several times per meditation. I don't have all of them but I won't pay the price demanded now days, so I'll make do with what I have. But why not just go learn them from minet or a friend? One interesting question: was SSRS ever made a TM teacher, letalone an advanced techniques teacher? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The political and business worlds are filled with examples of well intentioned but flawed men who gradually went astray as they gained more and more power. Power corrupts and all that. If you're attracted to power, this is probably inevitable. There's a great exchange in Commander and Chief between the new President and Speaker of the House about this. She says she has no interest in power for its own sake, and he replies that that is the wrong answer: at the level that THEY are at, you have to WANT to run the universe, or you have no business thinking you can run the country. Both sides had a point, I think and its a very fine line to try to walk. Since she never wanted to even try to walk it, I think she comes across as more worthy than he does as she makes the attempt which is the essence of the paradox of political power in a nutshell. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Sir. Rick Archer, are you implying that Maharishi was a Good Guru and then became a Not-so-Good Guru..??!! I have a doubt, Prof. Moriarty was always one step ahead of Sherlock Holmes. If Prof. Moriarty practices TM, will it make him even more brilliant criminal..??!! Or, Prof. Moriarty would reform himself and act more in tune with the Total-Natural-Law..?? Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:29:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh? you can be pregnant and then have a miscarriage. Jason Spock at jedi_spock@ wrote: Ha Ha, My keyboard has a problem with the letter O' . The o's run off without control. No man in his right mind would call his Secretary into his bedroom at 4.00'am at Night and ask her to read Poetry..!!??? A man is either a Guru or Charlatan. He cannot be both. You cannot be a little pregnant. Either you're pregnant or not. - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a Pure Capitalist economy, things are dictated purely by 'Demand and Supply'. In a competitive field where there are 40,000 TM teachers and other Spiritual cults, Is it wise for the TM-org to fix such high, exorbitant price for TM..?? I think, Somebody is misguiding Maharishi.?? I can tell you for sure that the high prices come straight from MMY. Many Many people including John Hegelin have tried to convince him that the high prices were counter productive. I heard of one instance where MMY began to leave the room rather than continue a discussion on this subject. At that point the proponents of reasonable prices relented. Same with raising tuition at MUM. A few years ago he wanted to make MUM an elite university overnight. The plan was to increase cost of attendance 50% to 30K, stop giving university subsidized scholarships, and market to rich families. There was very little discussion from the faculty (in public). It was just done. I was there. I believe it is true that MMY is surround by people who mostly tell him what he wants to hear. But, on this issue he has gotten a lot of negative feedback, repeatedly over the years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My points, interspersed are not meant as argumentative. But they seek to put in fuller light some delicious contradictions still remaining. Which may be real, or artifacts of language or loopy logic. Hi, just a note here that last night I read this entire posting and found it very compelling. I responded to it point for point, then when I hit 'send', my connection to the server had been lost, and it all disappeared into the ether, unrecoverable. Rather than try to reconstruct all of that, I wanted to just restate a couple of points that I made. It is often said that any description of IT, the Self, or consciousness awake unto itself, can encompass two logically opposed points of view, and therefore any description of IT is illogical, and therefore meaningless. So, rather than being illogical, i.e. crazy or random, any comprehensive description of IT is instead super-logical, because it does comfortably and completely encompass both logical points of view of any description of it. This is because it has a relative value and an absolute value. Analogous to your description below of the sun apparently rising and setting, this phenomenon is experienced subjectively as the sun revolving around the earth, and objectively known as the earth revolving around the sun. Both realities are true; one is relative, and the other is absolute. They are completely contradictory, and yet we can experience both of them, depending on our point of view at the time. snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY UK Fatwa - One year on. (Was: A letter to Maharishi).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I agree. What his handlers do not realise is that their identities and practices will remain covered until MMY dies. At that time, their activities are going to leak out and the devasting effect that they have had on the TMO will come out. They will be named,shamed, and blamed for the fact that the movement has run off the motorway and is down an embankment, upside down with its wheeels slowly spinning. So, just who are these secret handlers? Are you saying that we don't know? David Lynch is on the BoTrustees of MUM. The Rajahs are all public. His nephews are known. The ministers of the Global Country are known. Just whose identity is secret here? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: snip I'm not sure what celibacy has to do with being a teacher; is this a Catholic thing? or something? There's a very long tradition, possibly based on experience, that when sexual energy is sublimated, it facilitates the process of enlightenment. In some cases this allegedly purely practical value of celibacy in *gaining* enlightenment gets intertwined with the notion that celibacy demonstrates perfect nonattachment to desires, i.e., that it is a characteristic of one who has *achieved* enlightenment. And this can result in two corollary notions: (a) deliberately frustrating sexual desire (as opposed to sublimating it) leads to nonattachment, and (b) the teacher who is not celibate must not be enlightened, and therefore is not qualified to teach. Add to this mix the cultural value of virtue, i.e., that sex for anything but procreation is inherently evil, and you end up with quite a judgmental mess. MMY's quasi-official announcement on the subject is that for people who are comfortable with celibacy, this is the fastest way to get enlightened, but for people who are not, the strain of trying to remain celibate is counter-evolutionary. For those people, it is BETTER to be married. I see no contradiction between his public statements on the subject and his private behavior, regardless of the truth of the rumors of his having GFs over the years. At worst, he never found a lifemate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
On May 16, 2006, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? In mantra shastra it's said there are two ways to get a mantra--one is by puja, the easiest but least effective way. Second is by adhikara where the guru chooses a mantra specifically for the students mind and disposition. This is the best method according to tradition. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: My Pain, My Brain] from the Hut to the Palace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: [...] Not only does my behavior mimic the patterns of illusion I was so used to, I am able to see these illusions instantly, because that is exactly what they are. Since there is no longer any knowledge inherent in these echoes from the past, no desire manifests to keep them alive, and they are then easily dispelled. Who dispells? We all do. We? Oui. Ouink, Ouink... For those that don't think in multi-language puns with visual components, that's the French version of in a pig's eye... See why I like anime? Makes you think. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
On May 16, 2006, at 10:40 AM, sparaig wrote: MMY's quasi-official announcement on the subject is that for people who are comfortable with celibacy, this is the fastest way to get enlightened, but for people who are not, the strain of trying to remain celibate is counter-evolutionary. For those people, it is BETTER to be married. I see no contradiction between his public statements on the subject and his private behavior, regardless of the truth of the rumors of his having GFs over the years. At worst, he never found a lifemate. Of course he's lived in a country where prostitution is legal for how long now? No need for a lifemate, just cash and a place to go. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It seems to me that situation creates a couple of interesting Catch-22s. The first is that attempts *to* measure it or describe it accurately become exercises in pushing enlightenment away, not embracing its mysteries and inherent contradictions. My attempts to describe IT, the Self, always feel like making love, Yoga, Union. Rather than pushing IT away, attempts to describe IT, whether verbally, or through art, or movement, are like mini-vacations from the dedicated tasks of everyday life, where I can focus solely on IT, for no other purpose than expressing IT, in new and wonderful ways. snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? Huh? Where did I say there was or wasn't? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 10:40 AM, sparaig wrote: MMY's quasi-official announcement on the subject is that for people who are comfortable with celibacy, this is the fastest way to get enlightened, but forpeople who are not, the strain of trying to remain celibate is counter-evolutionary. For those people, it is BETTER to be married. I see no contradiction between his public statements on the subject and his private behavior, regardless of the truth of the rumors of his having GFs over the years. At worst, he never found a lifemate. Of course he's lived in a country where prostitution is legal for how long now? No need for a lifemate, just cash and a place to go. Go? Just pick up the phone and they'll come to you. Wouldn't *that* just be a trip, though? Some doorguard at Vlodrop phoning Maharishi to say, There's a Miss Boom-Boom LaVerne here for you, and Maharishi saying, Send her right up. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And contradiction is bad exactly why? In my view, there is a vast realm where logic is of great value, and where contradictions are indicative of an error. And there are other realms which are outside the realm of logic --- and contradictions are part of the landscape. Love for example. There is little logic in love. I find it of value to distinguish the two types of realms. To make universal claims that all realms are illogical and contradictions are natural is a fool's mindscape IMO. But these types of interpretations are more akin to poetry that is trying to describe love or beauty, not an internally- consistent and logical truth. What makes you believe that truth is either internally consistent or logical? I did not say all truths are internally consistent or logical. I referred a truth -- to a particular realm of truth which is internally consistent or logical. As discussed above, there are other realms which are not necessarily internally consistent or logical. To deny the former realm -- the realm where logic applies -- is a fools paradise. I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. And you hope that And you know that how? In my view, this desire to understand is a natural phenomenon, but it's one that is based on the unenlight- ened self trying to survive, when in fact for enlight- enment to be realized, that limited intellectual self has to be discarded or, at the very least, ignored. Based on your own experience I presume. What if enlightenment (or whatever you choose to call it) can NEVER be accurately measured or described? Thats not a problem for me. See my adjacent posts. Is it a problem for you? What does seem to be a problem for you is reading what people actually say before your strong ghosts of presumption takeover and possess your otherwise fine mind. It seems to me That and 10 francs will get you a fine expresso. that situation creates a couple of interesting Catch-22s. The first is that attempts *to* measure it or describe it accurately become exercises in pushing enlightenment away, Is that your experience? not embracing its mysteries and inherent contradictions. I have embrace a number of women along with their mysteries and inherent contradictions. Why should embracing IT and its mysteries and inherent contradictions be a huge leap? The second is the importance of trust -- trusting one's own experience, even though it may seem internally inconsistent and non-logical. Are you implying that I don't trust my own experience? If so, what stupendous leaps did you make to get there? Your poetry analogy is onto something. Thats why I brought it up. There are various realms. And various tools appropriate and useful in each realm. Somethings are best approached by poets. Other things are best left to logical quantitative types. I really don't want a poet designing jet engines on the planes I fly. And I don't want engineers telling me about love. Poets don't really mind if they describe a flower (or something less tangible, like love) differently from poem to poem. Each poem captures a small subjective aspect of the thing you're writing the poems about; *none* of the poems capture the thing itself. And that's Ok. And did you suppose or presume somehow that I felt it was not ok? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Techniques...
I am not in Kansas anymore! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned all the TM advanced techniques. Most of them involve adding syllables to the mantra, the explanation being that these culture the heart, slow down the process of transcending so that you can become more familiar with the subtle relative, etc. The argument against getting them from a web site is that being initiated properly imbues the mantra with shakti, or power, which makes it more effective. I know people who got all the advanced techniques and now just do their original TM mantra. I use a mantra I got from Amma (Ammachi), which has about as many syllables as my TM mantra ended up having. She's got plenty of shakti. I guess I'm not really answering your question. I'm just giving you some explanations which might help you make your own decision. I do think that aside from whatever subtle benefits the additions to the mantra might have, the TMO sees advanced techniques as one of its cash cows. on 5/16/06 3:02 AM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Tom T; This thing called Enlightenment or Awakening is the ultimate paradox. It can be lived but anything and everything one can say about IT can also be both true and untrue at the same time as it can not acurately be put into words. We are all able to point to IT and still not get it right. Just be willing to live the paradox and see where that takes you. TOm T What you say is quite right and true. And quite wrong and false. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Tom T: An analogy is to think about sitting in front of a 10 million candlewatt strobe light with the eyes closed and wearing an eye mask. THe effect of all that light will leave an imprint on the physiology even if the light is not directly percieved. The shock of the shift of indentification from self to SELF has the same kind of effect on the physiology. It is not directly percieved but known to have happened as an experience as the shift is too powerful to have not been noticed because of the shift of the identity point from small and limited to unbounded and infinite. TOm T That is quite a good and useful analogy. And its quite a false and untrue analogy having no value. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 10:40 AM, sparaig wrote: MMY's quasi-official announcement on the subject is that for people who are comfortable with celibacy, this is the fastest way to get enlightened, but for people who are not, the strain of trying to remain celibate is counter-evolutionary. For those people, it is BETTER to be married. I see no contradiction between his public statements on the subject and his private behavior, regardless of the truth of the rumors of his having GFs over the years. At worst, he never found a lifemate. Of course he's lived in a country where prostitution is legal for how long now? No need for a lifemate, just cash and a place to go. So you're saying that he's been screwing prostitutes in Holland? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a Miss Boom-Boom LaVerne here for you, Ah, another Bob Cummings fan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip It seems to me that situation creates a couple of interesting Catch-22s. The first is that attempts *to* measure it or describe it accurately become exercises in pushing enlightenment away, not embracing its mysteries and inherent contradictions. My attempts to describe IT, the Self, always feel like making love, Yoga, Union. Rather than pushing IT away, attempts to describe IT, whether verbally, or through art, or movement, are like mini-vacations from the dedicated tasks of everyday life, where I can focus solely on IT, for no other purpose than expressing IT, in new and wonderful ways. snip For me, attempts to describe IT while having teh experience of IT, seem to draw me out of IT. Attempts to describe IT while NOT having the experience of IT, seem futile. Counterproductive, in other words... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did any teachers ever date your initiates? I always felt squirrelly about this. It seemed to violate the ethics of the therapist/client relationship. I remember being attracted to some of them, and enjoying the fantasy of slipping in an instruction to slowly open the thighs! I don't remember a specific prohibition against it. MMY had (at least) a therapist/client relationship with these women and girls. I think the squirrelly factor for him is very high. The downside of turning him down was never getting enlightened for them. That seems like one step above roofies on my ethics meter. one: we don't know if he ever did what people say he did in this context; two: we don't know the relationship he actually had with anyone even if he DID do something along these lines; three: we don't know how the WOMEN purportedly involved felt before, during or after, unless they have stepped forward and make all those aspects clear; four: we don't know how MMY felt before, during, after, either. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) At least I will be in good company. Interesting that the above remark set you off on a tantrum. It seems quite a mild and qualified (may) comment to someone who makes claims about aonthers inner mental states. Whats good for the goose is BAD BAD BAD for the gander I suppose. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
On May 16, 2006, at 11:37 AM, sparaig wrote: So you're saying that he's been screwing prostitutes in Holland? Maybe just working on some new techniques? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
Jim Flanegin writes snipped My attempts to describe IT, the Self, always feel like making love, Yoga, Union. Rather than pushing IT away, attempts to describe IT, whether verbally, or through art, or movement, are like mini-vacations from the dedicated tasks of everyday life, where I can focus solely on IT, for no other purpose than expressing IT, in new and wonderful ways. Tom T Ed Zaketly! What a wonderful description of what keeps us coming back here again and again. We do it for us although it might seem we do it for all of us also. Fun Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 11:37 AM, sparaig wrote: So you're saying that he's been screwing prostitutes in Holland? Maybe just working on some new techniques? I've never gotten any feeling of personal hostility from you towards MMY... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) At least I will be in good company. :) Interesting that the above remark set you off on a tantrum. It seems quite a mild and qualified (may) comment to someone who makes claims about aonthers inner mental states. (Based on a misreading of the original post no less.) Whats good for the goose is BAD BAD BAD for the gander I suppose. BTW, what dualistic school do you adhere to? Seeing all beings as pissants and non-pissants. Has this path made you real spiritual? :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) At least I will be in good company. :) Interesting that the above remark set you off on a tantrum. It seems quite a mild and qualified (may) comment to someone who makes claims about aonthers inner mental states. (Based on a misreading of the original post no less.) Whats good for the goose is BAD BAD BAD for the gander I suppose. BTW, what dualistic school do you adhere to? Seeing all beings as pissants and non-pissants. Has this path made you real spiritual? :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?
On May 16, 2006, at 11:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Did any teachers ever date your initiates? I always felt squirrelly about this. It seemed to violate the ethics of the therapist/client relationship. I remember being attracted to some of them, and enjoying the fantasy of slipping in an instruction to slowly open the thighs! I don't remember a specific prohibition against it. Let's not forget feel the body... ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T Tom, I am curious about your comment. It implies that you see some great rudeness, nastiness or sin in my comment below. I don't see it. Indeed it was a bit imitative of Barry's style -- a quick smirk of a comment -- (perhaps deserving of a smiley face) building on his phrasing I honestly think you are ... and hypothesing on his inner mental dynamics as he (mistakenly) did of mine. But I am touched by your kind attention. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. --- new_morning_blank_slate wrote: See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advanced Tehniques...
Vaj wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 4:02 AM, stadspark wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S I think it's insane to pay the price for what should really have been given as part of the basic technique. I'd look elsewhere and seek to preserve the integrity of your personal practice, all the while deepening your own practice. For example, one can receive the *entire* mantra for your TM devata mantra from Amma (or many other sources). Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches one of the (IMO) very, very important advanced techniques as part of his basic meditation technique I am told, so that's an inexpensive way to get that technique--and of course SSRS has a lineal connection to the TMO. That's the nice thing about lineage: there's always more than one person you can go to for answers. The Age of Enlightenment technique is really just a traditional Hindu meditation used daily by many devout Hindus, albeit somewhat watered down. If this type of thing appeals to you, I'd suggest finding an old uncertified independent governor (who far out number the certified ones!) who can give you the technique and then make a donation to your favorite charity. You really have a lot of options--and many of them will lie outside the TM movement or use independent teachers. Shouldn't they be 1/3 off in price? Since they are about half to 1/3 of a mantra. :) They are a little more close to a traditional technique. Of course they turn you into a Saraswati worshipper which is not a bad thing but explains why so many TM'ers value academia so much, have overstimulated intellects and indulge in intellectual constructs. Some balancing techniques need to also be given. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
Tom, I agree with your (apparent) premise that kindness should flourish in our posts. My comment, though a bit smirky, was also a bit snarky. Perhaps best left unsaid. Was is Jesus who said He that snarks upon you, turn the other cheek.? A lot of wasted discussion appears to be people snarking back after having been snarked, leading to snark wars and worse. Even if Turq or others make snarky and presumptuous comments to me, that does not give me the right to snark back. FFL deserves that higher standard of conduct. So I appreciate your kindess in bringing my snarkiness, albeit mild, to my attention. I vow to try to refrain from such in the future. Please feel free to bring any lapses of such to my attention. Thank you for your kind attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T Tom, I am curious about your comment. It implies that you see some great rudeness, nastiness or sin in my comment below. I don't see it. Indeed it was a bit imitative of Barry's style -- a quick smirk of a comment -- (perhaps deserving of a smiley face) building on his phrasing I honestly think you are ... and hypothesing on his inner mental dynamics as he (mistakenly) did of mine. But I am touched by your kind attention. --- TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. --- new_morning_blank_slate wrote: See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
New morning blanket et all snipped I am curious about your comment. It implies that you see some great rudeness, nastiness or sin in my comment below. I don't see it. Indeed it was a bit imitative of Barry's style -- a quick smirk of a comment -- (perhaps deserving of a smiley face) building on his phrasing I honestly think you are ... and hypothesing on his inner mental dynamics as he (mistakenly) did of mine. But I am touched by your kind attention. Tom T No matter how hard you try your style transcends your attempt to hide who you really are. I enjoy your attempts to disquise yourself. Why not just be honest from the get go. It is much easier to love you in your uniqueness. The disguises seem to get in the way. Love from all of us that knows there is only one of us. Tom T To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 4:02 AM, stadspark wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? S I think it's insane to pay the price for what should really have been given as part of the basic technique. I'd look elsewhere and seek to preserve the integrity of your personal practice, all the while deepening your own practice. For example, one can receive the *entire* mantra for your TM devata mantra from Amma (or many other sources). Sri Sri Ravi Shankar teaches one of the (IMO) very, very important advanced techniques as part of his basic meditation technique I am told, so that's an inexpensive way to get that technique--and of course SSRS has a lineal connection to the TMO. That's the nice thing about lineage: there's always more than one person you can go to for answers. The Age of Enlightenment technique is really just a traditional Hindu meditation used daily by many devout Hindus, albeit somewhat watered down. If this type of thing appeals to you, I'd suggest finding an old uncertified independent governor (who far out number the certified ones!) who can give you the technique and then make a donation to your favorite charity. You really have a lot of options--and many of them will lie outside the TM movement or use independent teachers. Shouldn't they be 1/3 off in price? Since they are about half to 1/3 of a mantra. :) They are a little more close to a traditional technique. Of course they turn you into a Saraswati worshipper which is not a bad thing but explains why so many TM'ers value academia so much, have overstimulated intellects and indulge in intellectual constructs. Some balancing techniques need to also be given. Interesting commments coming from someone who advocates Buddhist techniques that apparently have this effect strong enough that it can be detected by our current EEG technology. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T I presented my views, without either asking for or desiring an ongoing argument about them. I *did* suggest, based on his ongoing posts here, that I think he's attached to being able to understand enlightenment intellectually. That seems to have set him off. In my reply above, I quoted only one snarky reply designed (IMO) to suck me into an argument so he could swing his intellectual dick. I ignored the rest, as I intend to do to all of his posts in the future. Life's too short to argue, just because people want to argue. If some folks don't like that, *they* can read his stuff and reply to it. I don't have to. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? Huh? Where did I say there was or wasn't? You said it depends as though it ONLY depended on that particular issue. But that isn't what you asked. I mean, of course there's more to the advanced technique instruction than just the puja. But I didn't say anything about this either way in what you were responding to. Perhaps there are other issues as well, or instead of, the puja. Could be, but the puja is a biggie. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T Note, however, that in addition to responding to Barry's heavy snark with a bit of snark of his own, the poster made a number of substantive points. So Barry chose to pout about the snark and ignore the substance. As you say, some things never change. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) At least I will be in good company. :) Interesting that the above remark set you off on a tantrum. It seems quite a mild and qualified (may) comment to someone who makes claims about aonthers inner mental states. (Based on a misreading of the original post no less.) Whats good for the goose is BAD BAD BAD for the gander I suppose. Although, of course, only Barry is allowed to put folks down, in this case it wasn't the snark in your response but the substance that freaked him out. BTW, what dualistic school do you adhere to? Seeing all beings as pissants and non-pissants. Has this path made you real spiritual? :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? Huh? Where did I say there was or wasn't? You said it depends as though it ONLY depended on that particular issue. But that isn't what you asked. I was responding to your it depends statement which, as presented, STILL reads to me to be saying that it ONLY depends. Logically, if something depends on something else, it is an if and only if statement. I was asking if there could be other issues as well (or instead of) the puja. I mean, of course there's more to the advanced technique instruction than just the puja. But I didn't say anything about this either way in what you were responding to. But your statement left no room for argument: it depends [on whether or not the puja is important] implies that the puja be of central importance, at the very least. Perhaps there are other issues as well, or instead of, the puja. Could be, but the puja is a biggie. Perhaps. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The most valuable teaching you've heard
I know it's difficult if not impossible to pin down, given all the incredibly valuable things taught to us over the years by our respective spiritual teachers, and by life itself. But I was thinking about it today and I realized that I really had one. There is one thing that I consider the most valuable teaching heard and lesson learned in this lifetime. What's yours? Mine is the value of selfless service. I think that if someone really *gets* this concept and acts upon it, most of the other aspects of an effective spirit- ual sadhana tend to fall into place. Giving just rocks. It makes you happier than almost anything else in life. The only things that have come close for me are being madly, head-over-heels in love and writing. It's also not a bad deal from the karmic point of view. If you cultivate the habit of giving, without expectation of either reward or recognition *for* giving, IMO it creates a really cool karmic wave, one that neutralizes other karmas that might tempt you into acting from a sense of self-ishness, and that sets you up to perform the same sort of selfless service in the future. Rama talked about selfless service a lot, and in much of his life personified it as well. But he's far from the only teacher I've encountered who has taught the value of giving. I think Maharishi gave many of us here a great gift by allowing us to be teachers. We probably didn't deserve to be, but he let us take a shot at it. And as a result of taking that shot, we got to exper- ience what selfless service *feels* like. As a result, many of us are still on a path of giving and service, even if we're not still doing it as part of the TM movement. He gave and we're continuing the trend. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: As well, I think the drug culture of the Sixties created alot of misery and, basically, just a bunch of fucked-up dope addicts. In addition, I think there are two types of druggies, those who do it to escape from reality snip I never understood that _expression_, to escape from reality...How is that even possible? Provided you have a vaguely functioning and unadulturated brain, what you see around you is your effective reality. For whatever reason some people hate that and drugs can give you the illusion of being somewhere or somebody else. Cocaine makes you super confident, LSD is like sticking your head into another dimension. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advanced Tehniques...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stadspark stadspark@ wrote: This is a question for anyone who has officially been instructed in at least two advanced techniques: So here's my question; If someone has been properly instructed in the TM technique, is there any reason that someone should consider paying $3000 for an adv. technique, if he could just as easily go to minet.org, and get his new technique for free (i.e simply update his mantr..)?? Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ... Any thoughts, anyone? I'd suggest it depends on whether one thinks the performance of the puja enhances the effectiveness of the instruction. (Caveat: Like you, I have only one advanced technique.) IS there more to TM instruction than just the puja? How can we possibly know? Huh? Where did I say there was or wasn't? You said it depends as though it ONLY depended on that particular issue. But that isn't what you asked. I was responding to your it depends statement which, as presented, STILL reads to me to be saying that it ONLY depends. Logically, if something depends on something else, it is an if and only if statement. I was asking if there could be other issues as well (or instead of) the puja. I mean, of course there's more to the advanced technique instruction than just the puja. But I didn't say anything about this either way in what you were responding to. But your statement left no room for argument: it depends [on whether or not the puja is important] implies that the puja be of central importance, at the very least. No, it implied that the puja enhances the instruction. Perhaps there are other issues as well, or instead of, the puja. Could be, but the puja is a biggie. Perhaps. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The most valuable teaching you've heard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Giving just rocks. It makes you happier than almost anything else in life. The only things that have come close for me are being madly, head-over-heels in love and writing. It's also not a bad deal from the karmic point of view. If you cultivate the habit of giving, without expectation of either reward or recognition *for* giving Except for the expectation that it's going to make you happier than almost anything else in life... Block that infinite regress! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: As well, I think the drug culture of the Sixties created alot of misery and, basically, just a bunch of fucked-up dope addicts. In addition, I think there are two types of druggies, those who do it to escape from reality snip I never understood that _expression_, to escape from reality...How is that even possible? Provided you have a vaguely functioning and unadulturated brain, what you see around you is your effective reality. For whatever reason some people hate that and drugs can give you the illusion of being somewhere or somebody else. Cocaine makes you super confident, LSD is like sticking your head into another dimension. yeah, the reason I was never much into the hard drugs like those you listed, and others, was that it is always a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Whatever high was experienced was followed by a commensurate low. Yuck. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advanced Tehniques...
In a message dated 5/16/06 3:02:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless, the technique requires special instruction (which I know for a fact is unecessary after having been insrtucted in one advanced technique) I see no reason ...Any thoughts, anyone? There is an old saying, "let all righteousness be fulfilled". Jesus went to John to be baptized. It is my belief, that receiving the mantra from a person authorized by the master to teach it is of utmost importance, at least to get maximum results. Of course, I can be a bit superstitious at times also. If you can't afford the price, do without! Or if you are willing to find another master , go for it. However , I have known many people, including myself,who have had absolutely wonderful experiences with just the first technique. The last thing you should do is to get stressed out over not having the latest technique. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ShempMcgurk , Have your Seen Maharishi Effect..??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir ShempMcGurk, Have you seen the Maharishi effect.?? No. I haven't seen gravity either. As for the 1% thing, I'm not a social scientist or statistician and I suspect they are the only people capable of seeing the Maharishi effect. - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
ExxonMobil is like your Mother Wal-Mart is like your Mother Both provide you the essentials for life Such as Food, clothing, energy And they do it Efficiently Easily accessible Incredibly inexpensively And oh-so-efficiently Just like dear old Mama Who nourishes you And provides you with the essentials of life Without complaining And with a smile on her face Just like the good folks at ExxonMobil and Wal-Mart So the next time you feel the urge To bad mouth your Mother at ExxonMobil And Wal-Mart Remember that It is really bad karma To bad mouth dear old Mama To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, I agree with your (apparent) premise that kindness should flourish in our posts. My comment, though a bit smirky, was also a bit snarky. Perhaps best left unsaid. Was is Jesus who said He that snarks upon you, turn the other cheek.? A lot of wasted discussion appears to be people snarking back after having been snarked, leading to snark wars and worse. You're using snark when I think you mean to use snarky http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=snark http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=snarky Even if Turq or others make snarky and presumptuous comments to me, that does not give me the right to snark back. FFL deserves that higher standard of conduct. So I appreciate your kindess in bringing my snarkiness, albeit mild, to my attention. I vow to try to refrain from such in the future. Please feel free to bring any lapses of such to my attention. Thank you for your kind attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T Tom, I am curious about your comment. It implies that you see some great rudeness, nastiness or sin in my comment below. I don't see it. Indeed it was a bit imitative of Barry's style -- a quick smirk of a comment -- (perhaps deserving of a smiley face) building on his phrasing I honestly think you are ... and hypothesing on his inner mental dynamics as he (mistakenly) did of mine. But I am touched by your kind attention. --- TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think that what you're *hoping* is that the description of enlightenment can be internally consis- tent and logical, so that you can understand it using the rational mind. And you hope that despite the fact that most of the enlightened throughout history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* be understood or described by the rational mind. --- new_morning_blank_slate wrote: See my adjacent posts. You will find your hypothesis is quite one-dimensional and off base. I honestly think you may be projecting here, projecting onto others an issue you are dealing with and are uncomfortable with your lack of internal resolution. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB Snipped Dude, I took your new screen name at face value, and took you out of the Pissant Bin long enough for one test reply to see if you really had turned over a new leaf. Won't make that mistake again...back in the bin you go. :-) Tom T Ed Zaktely. Some things never change. We change they don't. Tom T Note, however, that in addition to responding to Barry's heavy snark with a bit of snark of his own, the poster made a number of substantive points. So Barry chose to pout about the snark and ignore the substance. As you say, some things never change. Yeah, like you not getting the exhaustive message from umpteen posters on this forum over the past week about not rising to the occasion and getting into the gutter with your alleged opponents. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Jacking up the price of TM aims it like a cannon at the consciousness of the rich and powerful. Whether they pay for it or not, whether anyone pays for it or not. By creating an insurmountable disparity between the affordable technique of the past and the current technique price, this draws the collective consciousness of the meditators towards the rich and powerful. Its a Sutra. Boom! Shiva--Guru Dev--Maharishi-- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ExxonMobil is like your Mother Wal-Mart is like your Mother Both provide you the essentials for life Such as Food, clothing, energy And they do it Efficiently Easily accessible Incredibly inexpensively And oh-so-efficiently Just like dear old Mama Who nourishes you And provides you with the essentials of life Without complaining And with a smile on her face Just like the good folks at ExxonMobil and Wal-Mart So the next time you feel the urge To bad mouth your Mother at ExxonMobil And Wal-Mart Remember that It is really bad karma To bad mouth dear old Mama Do you own stock in these companies or sumpin'? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ExxonMobil is like your Mother Wal-Mart is like your Mother Both provide you the essentials for life Such as Food, clothing, energy And they do it Efficiently Easily accessible Incredibly inexpensively And oh-so-efficiently Just like dear old Mama Who nourishes you And provides you with the essentials of life Without complaining And with a smile on her face Just like the good folks at ExxonMobil and Wal-Mart So the next time you feel the urge To bad mouth your Mother at ExxonMobil And Wal-Mart Remember that It is really bad karma To bad mouth dear old Mama Do you own stock in these companies or sumpin'? I don't. But I do patronize both businesses. There is an ExxonMobil down the street from me and a Super-Store Wal-Mart about a 1/2 mile from there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Jacking up the price of TM aims it like a cannon at the consciousness of the rich and powerful. Whether they pay for it or not, whether anyone pays for it or not. By creating an insurmountable disparity between the affordable technique of the past and the current technique price, this draws the collective consciousness of the meditators towards the rich and powerful. Its a Sutra. Boom! Shiva--Guru Dev--Maharishi-- Gosh, I'd love to know that stats for initiations since the Recerts were created. (Why do I think of Blade Runner everytime I hear the term Recerts?) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
I haven't bought anything from either of them in years. Does that mean I've been weaned from Mom's tit? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ExxonMobil is like your Mother Wal-Mart is like your Mother Both provide you the essentials for life Such as Food, clothing, energy And they do it Efficiently Easily accessible Incredibly inexpensively And oh-so-efficiently Just like dear old Mama Who nourishes you And provides you with the essentials of life Without complaining And with a smile on her face Just like the good folks at ExxonMobil and Wal-Mart So the next time you feel the urge To bad mouth your Mother at ExxonMobil And Wal-Mart Remember that It is really bad karma To bad mouth dear old Mama To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't bought anything from either of them in years. Does that mean I've been weaned from Mom's tit? :-) No, just that -- at least in the case of Wal-Mart -- you're probably paying way more than you should have to. Of course, I understand that there is a European Wal-Mart called Aldi. Have you ever shopped there? Aldi bought one of my favourite retail outlets here in the States: Trader Joe's. And if that is any indication of how they do business, they must be a great outfit! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ExxonMobil is like your Mother Wal-Mart is like your Mother Both provide you the essentials for life Such as Food, clothing, energy And they do it Efficiently Easily accessible Incredibly inexpensively And oh-so-efficiently Just like dear old Mama Who nourishes you And provides you with the essentials of life Without complaining And with a smile on her face Just like the good folks at ExxonMobil and Wal-Mart So the next time you feel the urge To bad mouth your Mother at ExxonMobil And Wal-Mart Remember that It is really bad karma To bad mouth dear old Mama To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Jacking up the price of TM aims it like a cannon at the consciousness of the rich and powerful. Whether they pay for it or not, whether anyone pays for it or not. By creating an insurmountable disparity between the affordable technique of the past and the current technique price, this draws the collective consciousness of the meditators towards the rich and powerful. Its a Sutra. Boom! Shiva--Guru Dev--Maharishi-- Gosh, I'd love to know that stats for initiations since the Recerts were created. Pretty damned low, I would guess in the US and Europe maybe 100 per month, tops. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I haven't bought anything from either of them in years. Does that mean I've been weaned from Mom's tit? :-) No, just that -- at least in the case of Wal-Mart -- you're probably paying way more than you should have to. Of course, I understand that there is a European Wal-Mart called Aldi. Have you ever shopped there? Aldi bought one of my favourite retail outlets here in the States: Trader Joe's. And if that is any indication of how they do business, they must be a great outfit! Aldi is a comglomerate. They run their own stores, which tend towards warehouse-vibe retail of food and some consumer items, the latter priced low as loss leaders. They're about on the same level as a Sam's Club in America, but with a far smaller inventory. The stores tend to be the size of a drugstore in America, not a supermarket. As I understand it, they are planning to move into America, and Wal-Mart's uneasy about that, because Aldi turns a higher profit in Europe than Wal-Mart does in America, but while incurring fewer bad vibes from the public. Probably a force to watch if you play the stock market. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aldi turns a higher profit in Europe than Wal-Mart does in America, but while incurring fewer bad vibes from the public. Higher profit margin per store, that is. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Jacking up the price of TM aims it like a cannon at the consciousness of the rich and powerful. Whether they pay for it or not, whether anyone pays for it or not. By creating an insurmountable disparity between the affordable technique of the past and the current technique price, this draws the collective consciousness of the meditators towards the rich and powerful. Its a Sutra. Boom! Shiva--Guru Dev--Maharishi-- Gosh, I'd love to know that stats for initiations since the Recerts were created. Probably no fewer, and since there are now major funding sources available for students, probably more initiations in the past year than in the past few years. For instance, I don't think that 500 students were initiated in the past few years at any single university prior to the new student study that just got under way. (Why do I think of Blade Runner everytime I hear the term Recerts?) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
