[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
   
 
In a message dated 8/9/06 8:59:17 P.M. Central Daylight 
Time,  
jflanegi@ writes:

About on  par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the 
  West 
these days to  'give your life for your country'. Either 
way, a 
  life 
is wasted for  nothing.

Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your  country?
   
   I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely 
Yes, 
  I 
   wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for 
one's 
   country was not seen as valid.
  
  How about the axiom better to die in one's dharma than live 
  outside it?
 
 Er, well, actually, it's more like Better to die in one's
 own dharma than to take on the dharma of another.


Although the way you said it is closer to how MMy said it, the two 
statements re pretty much the same thing, no?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
[...]
 
  Of course, misanthropic Fundamentalist Religious Fanatic is almost 
 an oxymoron, IMHO.
 
 
 *
 
 Check those online dictionaries, homes. What you mean to say is that 
 the Misanthropic in MFRF is redundant -- an oxymoron is like jumbo 
 shrimp (or marital bliss). http://www.oxymoronlist.com/


Oops. Yeah.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/9/06 10:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
 ,  Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  bob_brigante  wrote:
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
  
   bob_brigante wrote:
   
  
   The real problem is not that some crazy Jews think that God gave  
  them that land long ago and now they want it back, but  the 
   
  
  support 

  
  of the United States, giving billions  of dollars of weapons so 
   
  
   that 
   
  
  Israelis can kill  their neighbors to enforce their occupation of 
  Palestine.  Israel would have collapsed long ago without the 
   unthinking support of the U.S. 
  

  
   
   
  
  
   
  
   More specifically the US is giving them weapons to create 

  
  instability in 
   
   
  the Middle East so the US can step in and rule that area  and it's 
   
  
  oil. 

  
  It's an old story told many times over the  centuries. And we see 
   
  
  what a  
   
  
  wonderful job of stepping in the  US has done before. :)
  
   
   
  
  
  
   Countries with imperial aspirations always have a mix of motives: 
   for the Spanish and English in the New World, it was God, gold, 
   glory for the conquistadores of either country. Bush and his neocons  
  have a mix of fundie and Zionist fantasies along with a desire to  
  control oil.
  
  Do you really believe they are  fundies themselves or are just using them?
  I also think they're  misanthropes.
 
 
 Bush is pretty fundy. The Jewish neocons are  pretty much all hardcore 
 Zionists (note 
 capital  Z).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Who are all these Jewish neocons, besides  wolfowitz?


I dunno. Why don't you google neogon jew and find out...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--snip--
 If one committed TMer were to advise another on
 this forum that there's no point in discussing
 anything with the True Nonbelievers because you
 can't reason with morons, he or she would be held
 up to the most ithering scorn.

...ithering scorn - I like itit sounds even better than what was 
likely intended.  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/9/06 8:59:17 P.M. Central Daylight 
 Time,  
 jflanegi@ writes:
 
 About on  par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the 
   West 
 these days to  'give your life for your country'. Either 
 way, a 
   life 
 is wasted for  nothing.
 
 Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your  country?

I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely 
 Yes, 
   I 
wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for 
 one's 
country was not seen as valid.
   
   How about the axiom better to die in one's dharma than live 
   outside it?
  
  Er, well, actually, it's more like Better to die in one's
  own dharma than to take on the dharma of another.
 
 
 Although the way you said it is closer to how MMy said it, the two 
 statements re pretty much the same thing, no?


Welll, I suspect that there are actions that are outside *everyone's* dharma.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
thedoc108@ 
  wrote:
  
   Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
   are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
   discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
   defending a position that almost everybody has
   abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
   best technique and produces enlightenment.
  
  Actually, he doesn't.
  
  Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
  policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
 
 Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
 defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
 case for them.  (There's a difference.)


To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
either defending or making a positive case for things such as Rajas, 
weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.






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[FairfieldLife] 'Tommy Chong- Stoned on Meditation New Book: The I Chong'

2006-08-10 Thread Robert Gimbel



Tommy ChongThe world’s funniest stoner on meditation, surviving prison, and his new book, ‘The I Chong’  Illustration by Nathan Otaor Tommy Chong to get straight, he’s got to go to God. Not God as envisioned by, say, Jerry Falwell, not the God of hellfire, but the omniscient source of goodness and, yes, jokes. He’s cultivated a meditative practice over the years of smash hit movies, Grammy-winning comedy albums, and woozy influence over decades of pop culture as half of the comedy duo Cheech  Chong. So when he was busted in 2003 for selling Tommy Chong bongs and sentenced
 to nine months in the federal penitentiary at Taft, California, one of the items he brought with him was the I Ching, the ancient Chinese Book of Changes. While in prison, he started ruminating on life’s lessons, and the result was his new book, The I Chong: Meditations from the Joint. This book is a breezy vision of the man’s essential “Chongness,” as he writes not some preachy life lessons but about a life lived: growing up rough as the mixed-race child of a Chinese father and a Scottish-Irish mother in Western Canada; learning to tango with his wife, Shelby; and using his gentleness and wit to thrive in lock-up. “I met the warden one day. I swear to God, I’ve met fans but he was one of the biggest fans ever,” says Chong. “He says, ‘Are they treating you OK?’ He turned out to be a really sweet guy.”   –Dean KuipersCityBeat: Each chapter leaf in the book starts with a hexagram from the I Ching.   Tommy Chong: I went
 through the I Ching and just picked out a heading that would best suit the chapter. And the I Ching – I was just doing it – it’s three lines on top, three lines below. And they’re either broken or straight. And it’s based on an ancient book called the Book of Changes. You throw them – they used to do it with bones, but then they evolved it to coins, and they used to do it with yarrow stalks [a common, long-stemmed white flower]. What you get is a good sense of how you’re feeling, where you’re at in your life.   How is this a book of meditations?   I’m a writer, I just write all the time. I hadn’t planned it to be a book, I just have a compulsion. I tried to write a Cheech  Chong book, and I’ve been working on it for five years, and I just can’t get it going. But this new book was so personal that, when I started writing it, I realized: no one knows who I am. So I started writing about who I am, and I picked out memories from my past and then I
 realized, damn, I’m almost 70 years old, so I’ve got a lot of memories.  And those are meditative?   Well, I’m into meditation. Actually, Cheech turned me on to meditation. When I first met Cheech, he followed that guru from India [Maharishi Mahesh Yogi]. Every once in a while I’d go over to meet with Cheech, and he’d be meditating. It wasn’t ’til years and years later that I read a book by Joel Goldsmith, The Mystical I, and he went into the depth of meditating with your mind on God. And so when I went into prison, I thought: well, this is the best place in the world to put meditation to work.  What was your meditative practice in prison?   I ended up being the go-to guy with the I Ching. You have a lot of time in jail, so I read about how they did it with the yarrow stalks, and yarrow stalks were growing in the Indian garden at the prison. I did I Ching readings for the prisoners and it would blow people’s minds. I was in a
 recreation room and I was throwing coins and doing mine and this guy, Mike, came up to me and he asked, “What are you up to, Chong?” And I told him, and I said, “Do you want me to do your reading?” And he said “Sure.” So I had him throw the coins, and when he read his reading, it blew his mind so bad he just handed me the book and he stayed the rest of the day on his bunk. I read his thing and it said that he had just suffered a terrible accident. And he had, like, a couple of months before, his wife and child were killed in a car accident coming up to see him. The book nailed it. And same with me, my first reading was, “You’re in jail for a reason.”  Were you there for a reason?P Yeah, absolutely. It was to reconnect with my spiritual self, with my job. The problem with me is that I’ve got this incredible ego, but I know that I was meant to do what I’ve been doing. From my earliest childhood, I knew I had something unfinished on this planet to
 do. And I got too comfortable in my life … doing comedy, having a good time, collecting checks. And jail was like a little nudge, saying, “C’mon, let’s get back to work.”  You went to prison for selling bongs, right?   The official charge was “conspiring to sell drug paraphernalia over state lines.” Supposedly, it was part of a nationwide sting, but everybody they busted is either back in business or going back in business.  In the book you say that this is payback for all the movies, for laughing at cops, for Sergeant Stadanko.   Yup. The Bush administration, Karl Rove, they just figure out 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
 --snip--
  If one committed TMer were to advise another on
  this forum that there's no point in discussing
  anything with the True Nonbelievers because you
  can't reason with morons, he or she would be held
  up to the most ithering scorn.
 
 ...ithering scorn - I like itit sounds even better than what was 
 likely intended.


Slithering scorn?






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[FairfieldLife] 'Terrorists Like To Cause Mass Casualities'

2006-08-10 Thread Robert Gimbel



'Terrorists Like To Cause Mass Causalities'  It seems that the more people they kill, the terrorist philosophy;  Is to inflict the most death, possible...  So, naturally that weapon of mass death, would have to be the H-bomb.  We, here in the US have lots of H-bombs, and all means of delivery.  There is no challenger to match our bombing capability.  But we don't like to create mass causalities.  That is not our 'Christian Way' of conducting war.  We call that 'collateral damage.  Much 'collateral damage' is taking place in Lebanon right now.  It is a waste; it is not the best way to resolve a conflict, as we can see.  Except when we were faced with a suicidal enemy in Japan.  But since then, these weapons have only been used as deterrents.  Now, though, there they are; and the terrorists are dieing to get their hands on
 them.  And they will use them once they have them.  What do we do?  That is the question, of our time...  R.G. Seattle,WA. 
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[FairfieldLife] ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
markmeredith2002 wrote  Jeannie's mistake was emailing her letter 
to Hagelin. If she wanted
any chance of a positive response she should have hand delivered it…

There is some truth to that.  A hard copy to Vlodrop would probably 
have gotten it closer to the heart of the problem.  Anyone got a 
mailing address for MMY in Vlodrop?

-Doug in FF



 2nd Letter
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Dear John,
 
 I am writing to you again just in case you have not had a chance to
 read my first letter, dated August 2, 2006, regarding my dome
 rejection. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THE DOME!!!
 
 I honestly expressed My Highest Truth in that letter and I would
 truly appreciate a response, any response, especially whether you
 received it or not, and what Maharishi wants me to do. PLEASE READ 
MY
 FIRST LETTER TO MAHARISHI.
 
  I know most people working for Maharishi may be afraid to let him
 know what some of his governors have done to get in the dome, but I
 know you have INTEGRITY and will tell him the truth. Those 
governors
 who do not know Maharishi's intentions about them visiting other
 saints or using other self improvement techniques, should  be told 
by
 Maharishi on the daily phone calls to the course, what he really
 expects, regarding this very important issue
 
  Just because they were not asked if they do other things, many
 governors have  justified that it's o.k with Maharishi, and that 
they
 would not be in the dome unless he wanted them there. They feel 
those
 who are not there, somehow could be, if THEY REALLY WANTED IT.
 Everyone has to start being accountable for their actions, 
including
 the MOVEMENT REPRESENTASTIVES!
 
  I feel that THE RULES OF DOME ACCEPTANCE SHOULD APPY TO
 EVERYONE!  A few should not be rejected if the many are 
 doing
 the same things Everyone should be asked the same 
 questions...
 whether they visit the saints!  Not just those who are on some
 administrative black list. This is just common sense.  This is 
also
 how many people, that I have talked to,  feel avout it.
 
 Someone actually said to me the other night:  Why do want to 
spoil 
 it
 for the rest of us? Why didn't you just keep quiet.  So many 
people
 visit saints in India or other cities around the U.S. and the 
world. 
 I
 guess they feel that if they don't do it in Fairfield then it's 
o.k.
 No one will catch me, seems to be the theme.
 
 PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG I do not feel that visiting the saints 
is
 in ANY WAY WRONG... To the contrary it is A GREAT GIFT to those who
 have the grace to receive it. I feel anyone who wishes to visit the
 saints should be encouraged to do so. As it is stated in the VEDAS
 KEEP THE COMPANY OF THE SAINTS.
 
  A lot of people over the years have felt THE MOVEMENT
 REPRESENTATIVES have lied to them. They somehoe feel that 
Maharishi
 doesn't say the things they hear from course officials. MAHARISHI
 PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT FROM YOU
 WHAT YOU REALLY EXPECT!
 
 My first letter to you has somehow  made it on the internet on the
 Fairfield Life site. I hope in some way this is helpful to others
 who have also not compromised their integrity,  just to get their
 Dome Badge.
 
 John, I would like to be accepted for the dome, having told the
 TRUTH about my life. I could have very easily lied when I was
 questioned but I chose to be completely HONEST and NOT HIDE 
ANYTHING
 ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE.
 
 Please respond to me,
 Shiva Ma
 
 
 
 First Letter from ShivaMa:
 
 
  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection
  Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you 
  think
  may benefit from it.
  All Love,
  Shiva Ma
  
  My Dome rejection
  
  Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
  
  Aug 2 (5 days ago)
  
  Dear John,
  I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted 
at 
 the
  dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
one 
 of
  the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE 
share 
  this
  letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH  
 about
  what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
 written
  in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
 as TRUTHFUL 
  as
  I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that 
may
  benefit EVERYONE!
  
  When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time 
 to 
  be
  processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
acceptance,
  because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced 
any
  techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT 
 saint
  from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
 questioning
  me I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and 
that
  what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the 
 question 
  to
  over 600 people that I initiated,  back in the 
 seventies: Everything
  we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree? This 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin 
jflanegi@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/9/06 8:59:17 P.M. Central Daylight 
 Time,  
 jflanegi@ writes:
 
 About on  par with the more 'sophisticated' message from 
the 
   West 
 these days to  'give your life for your country'. Either 
 way, a 
   life 
 is wasted for  nothing.
 
 Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your  country?

I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely 
 Yes, 
   I 
wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for 
 one's 
country was not seen as valid.
   
   How about the axiom better to die in one's dharma than live 
   outside it?
  
  Er, well, actually, it's more like Better to die in one's
  own dharma than to take on the dharma of another.
 
 Although the way you said it is closer to how MMy said it, the two 
 statements re pretty much the same thing, no?

It could.  But live outside it suggests (to my ear)
a disregard for dharma altogether rather than taking
up a different dharma.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
 --snip--
  If one committed TMer were to advise another on
  this forum that there's no point in discussing
  anything with the True Nonbelievers because you
  can't reason with morons, he or she would be held
  up to the most ithering scorn.
 
 ...ithering scorn - I like itit sounds even better than what
 was likely intended.

Don't know where that W went.

Could also be dithering scorn.  I think I prefer that
anyway.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
 thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)
 
 To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
 either defending or making a positive case for things such as
 Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.

Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
a positive case for (especially since there is no
such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
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shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
 thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)
 
 
 To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
 either defending or making a positive case for things such as
 Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.

Come to think of it, I *have* made a positive case for
the Rajas several times; and each time the weighing-in-
gold thing comes up I've had to point out that the gold
was to further his research, not to fill his own pockets.

And the other day I came across something--can't remember
where--about some other occasion in India where someone
received their weight in gold for something or other.  I
got the distinct impression from the way it was described
that it's a traditional way of honoring someone in India.
If that's the case, then it wasn't a stunt that MMY
dreamed up out of nowhere; and it may have been designed
to appeal to Indians specifically.






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[FairfieldLife] Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Jeanne wrote; The majority of people who got their dome badges were 
not asked the
incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have to
lie face to face to someone,

Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by half if
people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the
declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below? There are
probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa who
have just seen the saints too.

There certainly are a lot of TM meditators running below the 
TMorg `religious/spiritual practice/saints' administrative 
inquisition radar to have registered  gotten in there.

I have talked around with people these recent days also who were 
saying they had tried going back to the dome programs these past 
weeks and were remarking that the feeling of fear w/ people hiding 
there was so too thick  that they were not going to go there 
because of that anymore.  The fear and sadness that it is not more 
open  gone the way it has does color what is left there.  Evidently 
there is a bad group-effect the TMOrg have created there unwittingly 
on the subtle.  It is pretty sad for the hope that it could have 
been.  It has been a large disheartenment and dwindle for a long 
time and that feeling is deep in the practice of the dome 
community..  it is a bad perpetuation given the hope that it was 
once.

-Doug in FF


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 The majority of people who got their dome badges were not asked 
the
 incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have to
 lie face to face to someone,
 
 Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by half 
if 
 people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the 
 declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below?  There are 
 probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa 
who 
 have just seen the saints too.
 
 
 I  SEVERED
  any connection I had with any saints and SEVERED the use of any
  techniques that they had taught me, and that I would NEVER 
 establish 
  a
  connection with them again or practice any other techniques other 
  than
  Maharishi's, EVER AGAIN. And that I had to put all of this in 
  writing,
  promising that I would do this.  
 
 
 
 Would probably cut quite a swath in those left in the domes.
 -Doug in FF
 
 
 
  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection
  Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you 
  think
  may benefit from it.
  All Love,
  Shiva Ma
  
  My Dome rejection
  
  Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
  
  Aug 2 (5 days ago)
  
  Dear John,
  I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted 
at 
 the
  dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
one 
 of
  the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE 
share 
  this
  letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH  
 about
  what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
 written
  in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
 as TRUTHFUL 
  as
  I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that 
may
  benefit EVERYONE!
  
  When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time 
 to 
  be
  processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
acceptance,
  because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced 
any
  techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT 
 saint
  from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
 questioning
  me I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and 
that
  what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the 
 question 
  to
  over 600 people that I initiated,  back in the 
 seventies: Everything
  we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree? This answer
  seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me,  yet I was not
  accepted then for the dome.
  
  This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister and
  brother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I 
 should
  apply now for the dome, because they were accepting EVERYONE!
  Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, 
I 
  was
  told EVERYONE  was WELCOME BACK!!! The words All sins would be
  forgiven were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have 
  never
  considered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a 
sin.  
 I
  have been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over 
the
  last twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. 
Each
  ONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT 
 and
  ETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in 
the
  past. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!!   Yet Maharishi became
  inaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 
Course 
 in
  1983. My heart was longing for him, So I felt that one by one He
  started sending different saints to BLESS ME!!!  Over the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dome Rejection From Shiva Ma Ryan

2006-08-10 Thread Ivica Kosti#263;



Dear Jeanne,I think that, if your e-mail is for dr. Hagelin, then you should send an e-mail to him, and not to Fairfield Life group.  Otherwise, it is not a letter, but an open letter, and that is a big difference.  So, something is not clear in the way you send your e-mail, and now you send also a second e-mail in the same unclear way.  I would suggest to you that, if you really want just to send e-mail to dr. Hagelin, with no other intentions, you just simply send an e-mail to him, and not to whole group.  That would be much more clear, honest, better and more nice.  Greetings  Jai Guru Devdhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection"Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you thinkmay benefit from it.All Love,Shiva MaMy Dome rejectionShiva Ma Ryan to John HagelinAug 2 (5 days ago)Dear John,I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at thedome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one ofthe most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share thisletter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH" aboutwhat has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have writtenin this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as "TRUTHFUL" asI can. I also have suggestions at the
 end of this e-mail, that maybenefit EVERYONE!When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to beprocessed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance,because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced anytechniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT saintfrom Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man questioningme "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and thatwhat I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question toover 600 people that I initiated, back in the seventies: "Everythingwe learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This answerseemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was notaccepted then for the dome.This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister andbrother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I shouldapply now for the dome, because they
 were accepting EVERYONE!Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, I wastold EVERYONE was WELCOME BACK!!! The words "All sins would beforgiven" were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have neverconsidered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a sin. Ihave been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over thelast twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. EachONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT andETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in thepast. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!! Yet Maharishi becameinaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 Course in1983. My heart was longing for him, So I felt that one by one Hestarted sending different saints to BLESS ME!!! Over the years, Ihave received the GRACE and BLESSINGS from over 15 different saintsthat have visited Fairfield since 1997.
 In 1994 my first GREATBLESSING was from MOTHER MEERA, in Germany. She changed my lifeforever... I have had the GREAT fortune of traveling with many ofthese DIVINE BEINGS. I am so GRATEFUL for the Love and Grace I havebeen given from these PURE DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS of Gods andGoddess's.I want to offer my HUMBLEST GRATITUDE to Maharishi for alwaysremaining in my HEART of HEARTS, since November 19, 1971. I will be inHIS ETERNAL DEBT for the GRACE HE SHOWERED upon me over and over againthroughout all these years. JAI GURU DEV MAHARISHI! I LOVE YOU SOMUCH.At the course office, Jeff Cohen was so sweet and kind to me on thephone, going over the guidelines for acceptance for the course.However the words he used when telling me what I needed to do, to getmy badge, still penetrate me like millions of daggers in my HEART. Ihave not been able to shake them. {Please ask Maharishi to help mewith this.}
 He said I would be able to get my badge if: "I SEVEREDany connection I had with any saints and SEVERED the use of anytechniques that they had taught me, and that I would NEVER establish aconnection with them again or practice any other techniques other thanMaharishi's, EVER AGAIN. And that I had to put all of this in writing,promising that I would do this. For GOD'S SAKE, How in the name ofWHOLENESS! ONENESS! DIVINITY! and SELF REALIZATION! could I promisethat My SOUL WOULD NEVER ALLOW THATI could have lied and said anything that Jeff wanted to hear, got mybadge, and no one would have known. THAT IS NOT ME, THAT IS NOT HOW IREPRESENT TRUTH AND DIVINITY. I DO NOT, AND I WILL NOT, EVER LIE toachieve a small gain in the present, who would I be lying to ONLYMY SELFWhen Jeff was explaing to me how Maharishi said that one should notcross the river in two boats, it causes confusion. I
 told him: "I 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/9/06 10:57:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Who are 
  all these Jewish neocons, besides 
  wolfowitz?**There are many Jewish 
  intellectuals, most famously Noam Chomsky, who are opposed to U.S. support 
  for Israel, but it is clear that the Bush administration is heavily 
  influenced by radical Zionists:"Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's 
  quasi-official Defense Policy Board, co-authored a 1996 paper with Douglas 
  J. Eeith for the Likud Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. Entitled "A 
  Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," it advised Netanyahu 
  to make "a clean break from the peace process." Feith now holds one of the 
  most important positions in the Pentagon-deputy-under-secretary of 
  defense for policy. He argued in the National Interest in Fall 1993 
  that the League of Nations mandate granted Jews irrevocable settlement 
  rights in the West Bank. In 1997, in "A Strategy for Israel," Feith called 
  on Israel to re-occupy "the areas under Palestinian Authority control" 
  even though "the price in blood would be high." On Oct. 13, 1997, Feith 
  and his father were given awards by the right-wing Zionist Organization of 
  America, which described the honorees as "the noted Jewish philanthropists 
  and pro-Israel activists."The radical Zionist right to which Perle and 
  Feith belong is small in number but it has become a significant force in 
  Republican policymaking circles. It is a recent phenomenon, dating back to 
  the late 1970s and 1980s, when many formerly Democratic Jewish 
  intellectuals joined the broad Reagan coalition. While many of these 
  hawks speak in public about global crusades for democracy, the chief 
  concern of many such "neo-conservatives" is the power and reputation 
  of Israel. William Kristol, editor of the right-wing Weekly Standard, 
  explained the reason for the rhetoric about global democracy to the 
  Jerusalem Post (July 27, 2000): "I've always thought it was best for 
  Israel for the U.S. to be generally engaged and generally strong, and then 
  the commitment to Israel follows from a general foreign policy."The 
  liberalism and Democratic partisanship of most Jewish Americans forces the 
  Zionist right to find its popular constituency, not in the Jewish 
  community itself, but in the Protestant evangelical right of Pat Robertson 
  and others many of whose members share the Christian Zionism of the early 
  British patrons of Israel. In 1995, after I exposed the anti-Semitic 
  sources of Pat Robertson's theories about a two-century-old 
  Judaeo-Masonic conspiracy in an essay in The New York Review of Books, 
  Norman Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary, denounced me rather than 
  Robertson. Podhoretz conceded that Robertson's statements about Jewish 
  conspiracies were anti-Semitic but argued that, in the light of 
  Robertson's support for Israel, he should be excused according to the 
  ancient rabbinical rule of batel b'shishim.http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/Israel_Lobby_US.html

H, so we have Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle control American policy 
with Israel.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/9/06 11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you 
  wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?I can't speak 
  for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, I wish this foolish 
  and insane idea of giving one's life for one's country was not seen as 
  valid.

Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or we are 
doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think everybody would like to see 
the idea of giving one's life for his country as being foolish and unnecessary, 
but at this time in man's evolution it just hasn't gotten there yet. As long as 
people value political, economic, and religious freedomand there are 
people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that you cherish, 
it will be necessaryfor some to lay their lives down for their society and 
their society owes them a very great debt of 
gratitude.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Iranian Pres. Sounds, Thoughtful?'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569





Yes Robert, he sounds quite reasonable, doesn't he? It must be all Bush's 
fault.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 12:05:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Who 
  are all these Jewish neocons, besides wolfowitz?Jerry 
  Falwellovitch, Pat Robertstein, and Rush 
Limbaughski.

What, no Schwartza's? Condaleezza Ricestein.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 12:02:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  About on par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the West  
  these days to 'give your life for your country'. Either way, a life  
  is wasted for nothing.Do you wish nobody 
  ever gave their life for your country?Perhaps he wishes that 
  the USA was still a colony of Britain...or perhaps Canada's 11th 
  province...

Or that Black people were still slaves.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 1:35:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Who are 
  all these Jewish neocons, besides wolfowitz?I dunno. 
  That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person 
  making the accusations really 
knew.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman thedoc108@ 
  wrote:
  
   Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
   are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
   discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
   defending a position that almost everybody has
   abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
   best technique and produces enlightenment.
  
  Actually, he doesn't.
  
  Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
  policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
 
 Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
 defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
 case for them.  (There's a difference.)

...make the positve case...? How?
Initiations down, weeknd courses down, SCI down,
sidhis down. What is the result? Social problems up, 
terrorism up, and in the case of you folks, National
debt costs $1B per day in interest alone.

The world is going to hell in a handcart, and Maharishi
blames a small island off the north western corner of
Europe.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
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 markmeredith2002 wrote  Jeannie's mistake was emailing her letter 
 to Hagelin. If she wanted
 any chance of a positive response she should have hand delivered it…
 
 There is some truth to that.  A hard copy to Vlodrop would probably 
 have gotten it closer to the heart of the problem.  Anyone got a 
 mailing address for MMY in Vlodrop?
 
 -Doug in FF

Snipping the 2nd half of my post misconstrues my point.  While I don't
buy the purported rationale behind dome bannings and agree that the
don't ask don't tell policy that applies to 100s of people in the dome
might seem unfair to those who are asked and are banned, I also don't
think that emailing, snail mailing, hand delivering or skywriting
questions about the policy will make any difference whatsoever and I
don't think banned people should get bent out of shape over it.  

My fuller view has already been wonderfully expressed in Mark
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[FairfieldLife] Where do you apply for dome pass?

2006-08-10 Thread rajarohan1008
Anyone know where to call? Thanks.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Terrorists Like To Cause Mass Casualities'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 5:31:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  There is no challenger to match our bombing capability.
  But we don't like to create mass causalities.
  That is not our 'Christian Way' of conducting war.
  We call that 'collateral damage.
  Much 'collateral damage' is taking place in Lebanon right now.
  It is a waste; it is not the best way to resolve a conflict, as we can 
  see.
  Except when we were faced with a suicidal enemy in Japan.
  But since then, these weapons have only been used as deterrents.
  Now, though, there they are; and the terrorists are dieing to get their 
  hands on them.
  And they will use them once they have them.
  What do we do?
  That is the question, of our time...

Robert, there is no"Christian way" of conducting war. But there have been 
politically correct ways to conduct war developed in the later half of the 
20th century. 1. The underdog is always a "freedom fighter" and his means of 
war, while they may be unconventional, must be accepted and tolerated. 2. The 
more powerful party is always seen as the aggressor or bad guy and must never 
exceed the force used against him and at the same time must observe to the 
letter, all civilized rules of war and woe be it if a civilian gets in the way 
and gets hurt. 3. For the two warring parties, the more powerful must fight with 
one hand tied behind his back so as not to take advantage of the freedom fighter 
because that wouldn't be fair. As long as the freedom fighter is only capable of 
being a dangerous nuisance, the more powerful party must accept that and not 
completely defeat his opponent, but give him plenty of opportunity to live to 
fight another day so eventually there will be a redistribution of power. 
Defeating ones enemy, especially if they are freedom fightermight lower 
thereself esteem. As for collateral damage in Lebanon, yes it is very 
unfortunate any innocent person dies,gets injured or loses property but 
Israelis would much rather spend their ordinance on the enemy that actually are 
causing them problems and its a shame if Hezbollah chooses to hide among 
civilians. However, Hezbollah chooses to attack, deliberately, civilian targets 
in Israel just as a suicide bomber chooses to attack civilians on the streets. 
The only difference is a rocket eliminates the need for a person and a 
belt of explosives. But we dare not criticize Hezbollah because they are 
the freedom fighters. As for, what do we do? Let Israel take the gloves off 
and rout out Hezbollah all through out Lebanon and if a trust worthy 
coalition will not act as a buffer between Lebanon and Israel to keep Hezbollah 
away fromthe border, then let Israel occupy southern Lebanon like they did 
for19 years. Once terrorist getthere hands on WMD's all the 
rules change.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)
 
 ...make the positve case...? How?

Um, it depends on the policy.  And we don't make
positive cases for *all* of them by any means. We
make 'em when there's a positive case *to be made*.

It's just that many folks here seem to go for the
worst conceivable interpretation of whatever it is
and never even consider the possibility that it
might not be *that* bad.

 Initiations down, weeknd courses down, SCI down,
 sidhis down. What is the result? Social problems up, 
 terrorism up, and in the case of you folks, National
 debt costs $1B per day in interest alone.
 
 The world is going to hell in a handcart, and Maharishi
 blames a small island off the north western corner of
 Europe.








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[FairfieldLife] ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
FWD:your email re:dome. To Jeanne, 
I want to acknowledge you for your courage and honesty. Among many 
bright lights in Fairfield, you are dazzling!
I hope this resolves itself in a way that suits you. Somewhere in 
the morass of it all, as we(collectively) keep looking, the TRUTH 
will become very obvious, even to those who cling to dogma out of 
love, devotion and some lingering ignorance. Keep up the good work!
all love,


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWd:
 2nd Letter
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Dear John,
 
 I am writing to you again just in case you have not had a chance to
 read my first letter, dated August 2, 2006, regarding my dome
 rejection. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THE DOME!!!
 
 I honestly expressed My Highest Truth in that letter and I would
 truly appreciate a response, any response, especially whether you
 received it or not, and what Maharishi wants me to do. PLEASE READ 
MY
 FIRST LETTER TO MAHARISHI.
 
  I know most people working for Maharishi may be afraid to let him
 know what some of his governors have done to get in the dome, but I
 know you have INTEGRITY and will tell him the truth. Those 
governors
 who do not know Maharishi's intentions about them visiting other
 saints or using other self improvement techniques, should  be told 
by
 Maharishi on the daily phone calls to the course, what he really
 expects, regarding this very important issue
 
  Just because they were not asked if they do other things, many
 governors have  justified that it's o.k with Maharishi, and that 
they
 would not be in the dome unless he wanted them there. They feel 
those
 who are not there, somehow could be, if THEY REALLY WANTED IT.
 Everyone has to start being accountable for their actions, 
including
 the MOVEMENT REPRESENTASTIVES!
 
  I feel that THE RULES OF DOME ACCEPTANCE SHOULD APPY TO
 EVERYONE!  A few should not be rejected if the many are 
 doing
 the same things Everyone should be asked the same 
 questions...
 whether they visit the saints!  Not just those who are on some
 administrative black list. This is just common sense.  This is 
also
 how many people, that I have talked to,  feel avout it.
 
 Someone actually said to me the other night:  Why do want to 
spoil 
 it
 for the rest of us? Why didn't you just keep quiet.  So many 
people
 visit saints in India or other cities around the U.S. and the 
world. 
 I
 guess they feel that if they don't do it in Fairfield then it's 
o.k.
 No one will catch me, seems to be the theme.
 
 PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG I do not feel that visiting the saints 
is
 in ANY WAY WRONG... To the contrary it is A GREAT GIFT to those who
 have the grace to receive it. I feel anyone who wishes to visit the
 saints should be encouraged to do so. As it is stated in the VEDAS
 KEEP THE COMPANY OF THE SAINTS.
 
  A lot of people over the years have felt THE MOVEMENT
 REPRESENTATIVES have lied to them. They somehoe feel that 
Maharishi
 doesn't say the things they hear from course officials. MAHARISHI
 PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT FROM YOU
 WHAT YOU REALLY EXPECT!
 
 My first letter to you has somehow  made it on the internet on the
 Fairfield Life site. I hope in some way this is helpful to others
 who have also not compromised their integrity,  just to get their
 Dome Badge.
 
 John, I would like to be accepted for the dome, having told the
 TRUTH about my life. I could have very easily lied when I was
 questioned but I chose to be completely HONEST and NOT HIDE 
ANYTHING
 ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE.
 
 Please respond to me,
 Shiva Ma
 
 
 
 First Letter from ShivaMa:
 
 
  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection
  Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you 
  think
  may benefit from it.
  All Love,
  Shiva Ma
  
  My Dome rejection
  
  Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
  
  Aug 2 (5 days ago)
  
  Dear John,
  I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted 
at 
 the
  dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
one 
 of
  the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE 
share 
  this
  letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH  
 about
  what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
 written
  in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
 as TRUTHFUL 
  as
  I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that 
may
  benefit EVERYONE!
  
  When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time 
 to 
  be
  processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
acceptance,
  because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced 
any
  techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT 
 saint
  from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
 questioning
  me I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and 
that
  what I learned in private, I kept private. I 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/9/06 11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Do you  wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?
 
 I can't speak  for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, 
I 
 wish this foolish  and insane idea of giving one's life for one's 
 country was not seen as  valid.
 
 
 
 Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or 
we are  
 doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think everybody 
would like to see  
 the idea of giving one's life for his country as being foolish and 
 unnecessary,  but at this time in man's evolution it just hasn't 
gotten there yet. As 
 long as  people value political, economic, and religious freedom 
and there are  
 people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that 
you 
 cherish,  it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down 
for their society and 
  their society owes them  a very great debt of  gratitude.

Yes, you speak for the past very eloquently.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWD:your email re:dome. To Jeanne, 
 I want to acknowledge you for your courage and honesty. Among many 
 bright lights in Fairfield, you are dazzling!
 I hope this resolves itself in a way that suits you. Somewhere in 
 the morass of it all, as we(collectively) keep looking, the TRUTH 
 will become very obvious, even to those who cling to dogma out of 
 love, devotion and some lingering ignorance. Keep up the good work!
 all love,
 
 
snip

I showed up yesterday at my supermarket buck naked, AS GOD THE 
ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING MADE ME, and they threatened to call the cops. 
OH WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!!! Why don't they see the DIVINE MESSAGE 
OF MY PURITY before them






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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  FWD:your email re:dome. To Jeanne, 
  I want to acknowledge you for your courage and honesty. Among 
many 
  bright lights in Fairfield, you are dazzling!
  I hope this resolves itself in a way that suits you. Somewhere in 
  the morass of it all, as we(collectively) keep looking, the TRUTH 
  will become very obvious, even to those who cling to dogma out of 
  love, devotion and some lingering ignorance. Keep up the good 
work!
  all love,
  
  
 snip
 
 I showed up yesterday at my supermarket buck naked, AS GOD THE 
 ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING MADE ME, and they threatened to call the 
 cops. OH WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!!! Why don't they see the DIVINE 
 MESSAGE OF MY PURITY before them

And so succinct, too...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tommy Chong- Stoned on Meditation New Book: The I Chong'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
The best thing that ever happened to Toomy Chong was the prison 
sentence he got a few years back.

It revived a dying career as he got much publicity out of being 
sentenced to prison for a silly, minor offense like having a bong 
pipe or some such thing.

Only the truth is that although, technically, the minor offense is 
the reason he was sentenced to prison, that isn't the real reason he 
got the sentence he did.

Apparently, no one ever spends time in prison for what Tommy was 
convicted of.  But Tommy was so beligerant in court and so 
disrespectful of the judge that that is why the judge sentenced him 
to spend time in prison...it had nothing to do with what he was 
actually convicted of.

So, obviously, Chong did it all as a publicity stunt and...it worked!

What a phony.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Tommy Chong
 The world's funniest stoner on meditation, surviving prison, and 
his new book, `The I Chong'
 
   Illustration by Nathan Ota
 or Tommy Chong to get straight, he's got to go to God. Not God 
as envisioned by, say, Jerry Falwell, not the God of hellfire, but 
the omniscient source of goodness and, yes, jokes. He's cultivated a 
meditative practice over the years of smash hit movies, Grammy-
winning comedy albums, and woozy influence over decades of pop 
culture as half of the comedy duo Cheech  Chong. So when he was 
busted in 2003 for selling Tommy Chong bongs and sentenced to nine 
months in the federal penitentiary at Taft, California, one of the 
items he brought with him was the I Ching, the ancient Chinese Book 
of Changes. While in prison, he started ruminating on life's 
lessons, and the result was his new book, The I Chong: Meditations 
from the Joint. This book is a breezy vision of the man's 
essential Chongness, as he writes not some preachy life lessons 
but about a life lived: growing up rough as the mixed-race child of 
a Chinese father and a Scottish-Irish mother in Western Canada; 
learning
  to tango with his wife, Shelby; and using his gentleness and wit 
to thrive in lock-up. I met the warden one day. I swear to God, 
I've met fans but he was one of the biggest fans ever, says 
Chong. He says, `Are they treating you OK?' He turned out to be a 
really sweet guy.   –Dean Kuipers
 CityBeat: Each chapter leaf in the book starts with a hexagram 
from the I Ching.   Tommy Chong: I went through the I Ching and just 
picked out a heading that would best suit the chapter. And the I 
Ching – I was just doing it – it's three lines on top, three lines 
below. And they're either broken or straight. And it's based on an 
ancient book called the Book of Changes. You throw them – they used 
to do it with bones, but then they evolved it to coins, and they 
used to do it with yarrow stalks [a common, long-stemmed white 
flower]. What you get is a good sense of how you're feeling, where 
you're at in your life. 
   How is this a book of meditations?   I'm a writer, I just write 
all the time. I hadn't planned it to be a book, I just have a 
compulsion. I tried to write a Cheech  Chong book, and I've been 
working on it for five years, and I just can't get it going. But 
this new book was so personal that, when I started writing it, I 
realized: no one knows who I am. So I started writing about who I 
am, and I picked out memories from my past and then I realized, 
damn, I'm almost 70 years old, so I've got a lot of memories.
   And those are meditative?   Well, I'm into meditation. Actually, 
Cheech turned me on to meditation. When I first met Cheech, he 
followed that guru from India [Maharishi Mahesh Yogi]. Every once in 
a while I'd go over to meet with Cheech, and he'd be meditating. It 
wasn't 'til years and years later that I read a book by Joel 
Goldsmith, The Mystical I, and he went into the depth of meditating 
with your mind on God. And so when I went into prison, I thought: 
well, this is the best place in the world to put meditation to work.
   What was your meditative practice in prison?   I ended up being 
the go-to guy with the I Ching. You have a lot of time in jail, so I 
read about how they did it with the yarrow stalks, and yarrow stalks 
were growing in the Indian garden at the prison. I did I Ching 
readings for the prisoners and it would blow people's minds. I was 
in a recreation room and I was throwing coins and doing mine and 
this guy, Mike, came up to me and he asked, What are you up to, 
Chong? And I told him, and I said, Do you want me to do your 
reading? And he said Sure. So I had him throw the coins, and when 
he read his reading, it blew his mind so bad he just handed me the 
book and he stayed the rest of the day on his bunk. I read his thing 
and it said that he had just suffered a terrible accident. And he 
had, like, a couple of months before, his wife and child were killed 
in a car accident coming up to see him. The book nailed it. And same 
with me, my first reading was, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
  --snip--
   If one committed TMer were to advise another on
   this forum that there's no point in discussing
   anything with the True Nonbelievers because you
   can't reason with morons, he or she would be held
   up to the most ithering scorn.
  
  ...ithering scorn - I like itit sounds even better than 
what was 
  likely intended.
 
 
 Slithering scorn?



...buttered corn...






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 9:32:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:  In a message dated 8/9/06 
  11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
   Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your country? 
   I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, 
  I  wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for 
  one's  country was not seen as valid.   
   Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or 
  we are  doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think 
  everybody would like to see  the idea of giving one's life for his 
  country as being foolish and  unnecessary, but at this time in man's 
  evolution it just hasn't gotten there yet. As  long as people 
  value political, economic, and religious freedom and there are  
  people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that you 
   cherish, it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down 
  for their society and  their society owes them a very great debt 
  of gratitude.Yes, you speak for the past very 
  eloquently. 


While I know it's not your intent, I'll take that as a compliment. Until 
then, go to the dome, round your ears off and maybe the people that would 
deprive you of freedom will have a change of heartand not want to force 
their way of life on you and others and be content with their own lives as they 
are or try a more civilized means of bettering 
themselves.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 markmeredith2002 wrote  Jeannie's mistake was emailing her 
letter 
 to Hagelin. If she wanted
 any chance of a positive response she should have hand delivered 
it…
 
 There is some truth to that.  A hard copy to Vlodrop would 
probably 
 have gotten it closer to the heart of the problem.  Anyone got a 
 mailing address for MMY in Vlodrop?


Santa Claus
123 Reindeer Avenue
North Pole




 
 -Doug in FF
 
 
 
  2nd Letter
  
  To: hagelin@
  
  
  Dear John,
  
  I am writing to you again just in case you have not had a chance 
to
  read my first letter, dated August 2, 2006, regarding my dome
  rejection. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THE DOME!!!
  
  I honestly expressed My Highest Truth in that letter and I 
would
  truly appreciate a response, any response, especially whether you
  received it or not, and what Maharishi wants me to do. PLEASE 
READ 
 MY
  FIRST LETTER TO MAHARISHI.
  
   I know most people working for Maharishi may be afraid to let 
him
  know what some of his governors have done to get in the dome, 
but I
  know you have INTEGRITY and will tell him the truth. Those 
 governors
  who do not know Maharishi's intentions about them visiting other
  saints or using other self improvement techniques, should  be 
told 
 by
  Maharishi on the daily phone calls to the course, what he really
  expects, regarding this very important issue
  
   Just because they were not asked if they do other things, many
  governors have  justified that it's o.k with Maharishi, and that 
 they
  would not be in the dome unless he wanted them there. They feel 
 those
  who are not there, somehow could be, if THEY REALLY WANTED IT.
  Everyone has to start being accountable for their actions, 
 including
  the MOVEMENT REPRESENTASTIVES!
  
   I feel that THE RULES OF DOME ACCEPTANCE SHOULD APPY TO
  EVERYONE!  A few should not be rejected if the many are 
  doing
  the same things Everyone should be asked the same 
  questions...
  whether they visit the saints!  Not just those who are on some
  administrative black list. This is just common sense.  This is 
 also
  how many people, that I have talked to,  feel avout it.
  
  Someone actually said to me the other night:  Why do want to 
 spoil 
  it
  for the rest of us? Why didn't you just keep quiet.  So many 
 people
  visit saints in India or other cities around the U.S. and the 
 world. 
  I
  guess they feel that if they don't do it in Fairfield then it's 
 o.k.
  No one will catch me, seems to be the theme.
  
  PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG I do not feel that visiting the 
saints 
 is
  in ANY WAY WRONG... To the contrary it is A GREAT GIFT to those 
who
  have the grace to receive it. I feel anyone who wishes to visit 
the
  saints should be encouraged to do so. As it is stated in the 
VEDAS
  KEEP THE COMPANY OF THE SAINTS.
  
   A lot of people over the years have felt THE MOVEMENT
  REPRESENTATIVES have lied to them. They somehoe feel that 
 Maharishi
  doesn't say the things they hear from course officials. MAHARISHI
  PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT FROM 
YOU
  WHAT YOU REALLY EXPECT!
  
  My first letter to you has somehow  made it on the internet on 
the
  Fairfield Life site. I hope in some way this is helpful to 
others
  who have also not compromised their integrity,  just to get their
  Dome Badge.
  
  John, I would like to be accepted for the dome, having told the
  TRUTH about my life. I could have very easily lied when I was
  questioned but I chose to be completely HONEST and NOT HIDE 
 ANYTHING
  ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE.
  
  Please respond to me,
  Shiva Ma
  
  
  
  First Letter from ShivaMa:
  
  
   FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection
   Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone 
you 
   think
   may benefit from it.
   All Love,
   Shiva Ma
   
   My Dome rejection
   
   Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
   
   Aug 2 (5 days ago)
   
   Dear John,
   I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted 
 at 
  the
   dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
 one 
  of
   the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE 
 share 
   this
   letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH  
  about
   what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
  written
   in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
  as TRUTHFUL 
   as
   I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that 
 may
   benefit EVERYONE!
   
   When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more 
time 
  to 
   be
   processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
 acceptance,
   because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced 
 any
   techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a 
GREAT 
  saint
   from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@  wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@   wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  shempmcgurk@wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman   thedoc108@ wrote: Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you are going to be able to engage in an inteligent discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day defending a position that almost everybody has abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the best technique and produces enlightenment.Actually, he doesn't.Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much   defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive   case for them. (There's a difference.)To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time   either defending or making a positive case for things such as  Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.  Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make a positive case for (especially since there is no such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@  wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@   wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  shempmcgurk@wrote:   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman   thedoc108@ wrote: Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you are going to be able to engage in an inteligent discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day defending a position that almost everybody has abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the best technique and produces enlightenment.Actually, he doesn't.Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much   defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive   case for them. (There's a difference.)To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time   either defending or making a positive case for things such as  Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.  Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make a positive case for (especially since there is no such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
  thedoc108@ 
wrote:

 Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
 are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
 discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
 defending a position that almost everybody has
 abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
 best technique and produces enlightenment.

Actually, he doesn't.

Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
Program.
   
   Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
   defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
   case for them.  (There's a difference.)
  
  
  To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
  either defending or making a positive case for things such as
  Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.
 
 Come to think of it,



The mere fact you had to search your memory for the few times you 
have -- weighed against a plethora of daily postings -- further 
makes my point.



 I *have* made a positive case for
 the Rajas several times; and each time the weighing-in-
 gold thing comes up I've had to point out that the gold
 was to further his research, not to fill his own pockets.
 
 And the other day I came across something--can't remember
 where--about some other occasion in India where someone
 received their weight in gold for something or other.  I
 got the distinct impression from the way it was described
 that it's a traditional way of honoring someone in India.
 If that's the case, then it wasn't a stunt that MMY
 dreamed up out of nowhere; and it may have been designed
 to appeal to Indians specifically.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/9/06 11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Do you  wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?
 
 I can't speak  for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely Yes, 
I 
 wish this foolish  and insane idea of giving one's life for one's 
 country was not seen as  valid.
 
 
 
 Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past or 
we are  
 doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think everybody 
would like to see  
 the idea of giving one's life for his country as being foolish and 
 unnecessary,  but at this time in man's evolution it just hasn't 
gotten there yet. As 
 long as  people value political, economic, and religious freedom 
and there are  
 people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms that 
you 
 cherish,  it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down 
for their society and 
  their society owes them  a very great debt of  gratitude.


I can't remember where I read this -- A hermit in the house? -- 
but when in I think it was the '60s, a was broke out between India 
and China, MMY returned to India.  The explanation in the book was 
something to the effect: I don't know what a monk could do in a time 
of war but I felt it my obligation to return to my homeland.

Now, that isn't a pledge to die for my country but it certainly 
does signal a willingness to enter into an area of danger for no 
other rationale reason than love of country, sacrifice and 
duty...characteristics not too far away from to die for my country.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
  shempmcgurk@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman
   thedoc108@
 wrote:
 
  Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
  are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
  discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
  defending a position that almost everybody has
  abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
  best technique and produces enlightenment.

 Actually, he doesn't.

 Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO
 policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
Program.
   
Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
case for them. (There's a difference.)
  
   To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time
   either defending or making a positive case for things such as
   Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.
 
  Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
  a positive case for (especially since there is no
  such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).

As I said, there is no such thing as Maharishi
Peanut Butter.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 12:02:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   About on par with the more 'sophisticated' message from the 
West 
   these days to 'give your life for your country'. Either way, a 
life 
   is wasted for nothing.
  
  
  
  Do you wish nobody  ever gave their life for your country?
 
 
 Perhaps he wishes that  the USA was still a colony of Britain...or 
 perhaps Canada's 11th  province...
 
 
 
 
 Or that Black people were still slaves.


...or that, today, there would be TWO USA's: The North United 
States of America and The Confederate United States of America...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)
 
 ...make the positve case...? How?
 Initiations down, weeknd courses down, SCI down,
 sidhis down. What is the result? Social problems up, 
 terrorism up, and in the case of you folks, National
 debt costs $1B per day in interest alone.
 
 The world is going to hell in a handcart, and Maharishi
 blames a small island off the north western corner of
 Europe.



...and the CIA for the failures of his own organisation...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
   thedoc108@ 
 wrote:
 
  Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
  are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
  discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
  defending a position that almost everybody has
  abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
  best technique and produces enlightenment.
 
 Actually, he doesn't.
 
 Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
 policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
 Program.

Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
case for them.  (There's a difference.)
   
   
   To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
   either defending or making a positive case for things such as
   Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.
  
  Come to think of it,
 
 The mere fact you had to search your memory for the few times you 
 have -- weighed against a plethora of daily postings -- further 
 makes my point.

Um, no, Shemp (or wait, is it Peter Klutz?  No,
it's Shemp).  See if you can figure out why that
makes no sense at all.



  I *have* made a positive case for
  the Rajas several times; and each time the weighing-in-
  gold thing comes up I've had to point out that the gold
  was to further his research, not to fill his own pockets.
  
  And the other day I came across something--can't remember
  where--about some other occasion in India where someone
  received their weight in gold for something or other.  I
  got the distinct impression from the way it was described
  that it's a traditional way of honoring someone in India.
  If that's the case, then it wasn't a stunt that MMY
  dreamed up out of nowhere; and it may have been designed
  to appeal to Indians specifically.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
   shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman
thedoc108@
  wrote:
  
   Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
   are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
   discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
   defending a position that almost everybody has
   abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
   best technique and produces enlightenment.
 
  Actually, he doesn't.
 
  Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day 
TMO
  policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
 Program.

 Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
 defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
 case for them. (There's a difference.)
   
To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much 
time
either defending or making a positive case for things such as
Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, 
etc.
  
   Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
   a positive case for (especially since there is no
   such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).
 
 As I said, there is no such thing as Maharishi
 Peanut Butter.



Of course there isn't, Judy.

You do understand that my use of the term peanut butter is meant 
to be satirical, don't you?

I would have hoped you got the fact that MMY has put his name on 
Almond Butter, a product that MAPI in fact sells (along with soap 
and other such nonsense).

How someone could water-down his all-important message by doing that 
is beyond me.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
thedoc108@ 
  wrote:
  
   Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
   are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
   discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
   defending a position that almost everybody has
   abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
   best technique and produces enlightenment.
  
  Actually, he doesn't.
  
  Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day 
TMO 
  policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
  Program.
 
 Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
 defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
 case for them.  (There's a difference.)


To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much 
time 
either defending or making a positive case for things such as
Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, 
etc.
   
   Come to think of it,
  
  The mere fact you had to search your memory for the few times 
you 
  have -- weighed against a plethora of daily postings -- further 
  makes my point.
 
 Um, no, Shemp (or wait, is it Peter Klutz?  No,
 it's Shemp).  See if you can figure out why that
 makes no sense at all.



Uh, no Judy, I won't.




 
 
 
   I *have* made a positive case for
   the Rajas several times; and each time the weighing-in-
   gold thing comes up I've had to point out that the gold
   was to further his research, not to fill his own pockets.
   
   And the other day I came across something--can't remember
   where--about some other occasion in India where someone
   received their weight in gold for something or other.  I
   got the distinct impression from the way it was described
   that it's a traditional way of honoring someone in India.
   If that's the case, then it wasn't a stunt that MMY
   dreamed up out of nowhere; and it may have been designed
   to appeal to Indians specifically.
  
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
  thedoc108@ 
wrote:

 Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
 are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
 discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
 defending a position that almost everybody has
 abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
 best technique and produces enlightenment.

Actually, he doesn't.

Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
   
   Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
   defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
   case for them.  (There's a difference.)
  
  To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much time 
  either defending or making a positive case for things such as
  Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, etc.
 
 Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
 a positive case for (especially since there is no
 such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).


The gold thing was a publicity stunt. He was awarded his weight in gold for a 
research 
grant. And there IS such a thing as cashew delight, but Maharishi Ayurveda 
condemns 
foods pulled out of the ground, as a rule.

Peanuts arent healthy for a lot of people anyway due to the mold.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeanne wrote; The majority of people who got their dome badges were 
 not asked the
 incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have to
 lie face to face to someone,
 
 Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by half if
 people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the
 declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below? There are
 probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa who
 have just seen the saints too.
 
 There certainly are a lot of TM meditators running below the 
 TMorg `religious/spiritual practice/saints' administrative 
 inquisition radar to have registered  gotten in there.
 
 I have talked around with people these recent days also who were 
 saying they had tried going back to the dome programs these past 
 weeks and were remarking that the feeling of fear w/ people hiding 
 there was so too thick  that they were not going to go there 
 because of that anymore.  The fear and sadness that it is not more 
 open  gone the way it has does color what is left there.  Evidently 
 there is a bad group-effect the TMOrg have created there unwittingly 
 on the subtle.  It is pretty sad for the hope that it could have 
 been.  It has been a large disheartenment and dwindle for a long 
 time and that feeling is deep in the practice of the dome 
 community..  it is a bad perpetuation given the hope that it was 
 once.
 
 -Doug in FF
 

My take: if you must lie to accomplish something, it's probably not something 
you should 
be trying to accomplish. Of course, this is world peace we're talking about, 
so why are 
people doing things that they need to lie about in order to accomplish this? 
Perhaps world 
peace isn't as important to them as they like to pretend?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)
 
 ...make the positve case...? How?
 Initiations down, weeknd courses down, SCI down,
 sidhis down. What is the result? Social problems up, 
 terrorism up, and in the case of you folks, National
 debt costs $1B per day in interest alone.
 
 The world is going to hell in a handcart, and Maharishi
 blames a small island off the north western corner of
 Europe.


Heh. The Sun never sets on teh British Empire...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 1:35:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Who are  all these Jewish neocons, besides wolfowitz?
 
 
 I dunno.  
 That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person  making the accusations 
 really  knew.


Ah, so it was rhetorical: you already know and wanted to know if I knew.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  FWD:your email re:dome. To Jeanne, 
  I want to acknowledge you for your courage and honesty. Among many 
  bright lights in Fairfield, you are dazzling!
  I hope this resolves itself in a way that suits you. Somewhere in 
  the morass of it all, as we(collectively) keep looking, the TRUTH 
  will become very obvious, even to those who cling to dogma out of 
  love, devotion and some lingering ignorance. Keep up the good work!
  all love,
  
  
 snip
 
 I showed up yesterday at my supermarket buck naked, AS GOD THE 
 ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING MADE ME, and they threatened to call the cops. 
 OH WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!!! Why don't they see the DIVINE MESSAGE 
 OF MY PURITY before them


Doug salutes you, however...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread gerbal88
I agree, Steven, it really is like trying to reason with 
fundamentalists of whatever ilk. Wouldn't dream of it; but for the 
benefit of those who haven't gone over to THAT dark side, you and I 
and some others do try to make it clear just how idiotic TM has 
become as a religion (the stealth religion, to use Barry Markovsky's 
wonderful term, of Maheshism). 

Maheshism has devolved into lunacy at a grandiose price only Mahesh 
himself could find low enough for the masses to afford. We can only 
shake our heads at the oiks who defend this crappola and try to avoid 
interaction with their diseased verbiage and rationalizations about 
this utter nuttiness. 

Avoid the Nosferatu-types who only want to drain the life out of you 
so only their lack of insight will prevail. Just go ahead and take a 
good look at what there is and say so. Those with ears, etc.

G

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wrote:

 Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
 are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
 discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
 defending a position that almost everybody has
 abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
 best technique and produces enlightenment. Almost
 everybody(can I see the hands) knows TM does Not
 produce enlightenment. They have been on 5 or 6 5-8
 year programs and are still waiting for cc after 30
 years. If TM makes you smarter they would have already
 figured it out. They havent. Millions have learned TM.
 If it takes 5-8 years can you show me 50% who have
 gotten enlightened? How about 25%? How about 10%? 1%?
 .1?.o1%? 
 Oh , somebody claims to have flown. Show me one person
 who can fly.Just one, please. After 30 years. 
 Arent there references thru out history of some who
 could fly? They were not doing the TM Sidhis program
 therefore I must conclude that the only ones who can
 fly dont do TM sidhis therefore TM sidhis prevent
 flying. This is an example of reverse Sparaig logic.
 I was emailed by a former FFLife person who said to me
 Why are you trying to reason with morons? He was
 right . You cant. It is like trying to talk to
 fundamentalist christians, or fundamentalist muslims.
 They are beyond considering another point of view.
 TM is a wonderful technique. I love to meditate.
 Actually my meditations are much deeper since I
 started receiving deeksha. And finally I have been
 having some of the experiences that we talked about
 for 30 years since I received deeksha.
 Give it up Gerbal 88. Its a waste of bandwidth.They
 will get it when they get it. Like the rest of us.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman
 thedoc108@
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
  
   Actually, he doesn't.
  
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day 
 TMO
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
  Program.
 
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them. (There's a difference.)

 To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend much 
 time
 either defending or making a positive case for things such as
 Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut Butter, 
 etc.
   
Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
a positive case for (especially since there is no
such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).
  
  As I said, there is no such thing as Maharishi
  Peanut Butter.
 
 
 
 Of course there isn't, Judy.
 
 You do understand that my use of the term peanut butter is meant 
 to be satirical, don't you?
 
 I would have hoped you got the fact that MMY has put his name on 
 Almond Butter, a product that MAPI in fact sells (along with soap 
 and other such nonsense).
 
 How someone could water-down his all-important message by doing that 
 is beyond me.

It's  fund-raiser. It funds research on ayurveda plus other stuff. If you think 
that isn't 
important, consider the amount of research that has been done under the generic 
name of 
chayvanparash (sp) vs Maharishi Amrit Kalash. 






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[FairfieldLife] A Computer Question....sorry to change the subject for a moment...

2006-08-10 Thread inthislifetime300
Does anyone know of a nifty little program that slaps the domain name 
you are currently on in large green letters on top of your window 
while on the net.

I just downloaded the newest version of Firefox and lost that little 
utility.  

It's very handy to verify where you REALLY are.  ha

And I can't remember what it is called and can't find it in my 
programs.

Anyone?

thanks!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along the lines 
  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari Krishna temple 
  for the Sunday night feast.I also attend weekly yoga 
  classes.Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things 
  -- plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
  think I would be refused a Dome badge?

Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to give 
advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since they preferred 
not to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the local Hari 
Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I mentioned it to the center 
management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive them that day. 
Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyasthat had come to 
Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty bar. There are 
other great stories out there I'm sure!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree, Steven, it really is like trying to reason with 
 fundamentalists of whatever ilk. Wouldn't dream of it; but for the 
 benefit of those who haven't gone over to THAT dark side, you and I 
 and some others do try to make it clear just how idiotic TM has 
 become as a religion (the stealth religion, to use Barry Markovsky's 
 wonderful term, of Maheshism). 
 
 Maheshism has devolved into lunacy at a grandiose price only Mahesh 
 himself could find low enough for the masses to afford. We can only 
 shake our heads at the oiks who defend this crappola and try to avoid 
 interaction with their diseased verbiage and rationalizations about 
 this utter nuttiness. 
 
 Avoid the Nosferatu-types who only want to drain the life out of you 
 so only their lack of insight will prevail. Just go ahead and take a 
 good look at what there is and say so. Those with ears, etc.

LOL. MMY says explicitly that he's pricing TM for the elites, and you think he 
finds this 
price low?

And then you suggest that the people who DO understand this point, whether they 
agree 
with it or not, are more oikish (?) than you, who apparently can't get it after 
your nose has 
been rubbed in it many many times...

Alrighty then.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  I dunno.  That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making 
  the accusations  really knew.Ah, so it was rhetorical: 
  you already know and wanted to know if I knew. 

No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to make a 
charge that the administration isheavily influenced by lots of neocon 
Jews, they might name more than one or two to back up the 
statement.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 I dunno. 
  That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making  the 
accusations 
  really knew.
 
 
 Ah, so it was rhetorical:  you already know and wanted to know if I 
knew.
 
 
  
 
 
 No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
make a  
 charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of 
neocon  Jews, 
 they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.

There really are quite a few; the leading five or six were
named in what Lawson posted--you did read that, didn't you?

There's plenty of non-Jewish neocons as well.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 11:28:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, 
  Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to make a 
   charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of 
  neocon Jews,  they might name more than one or two to back up the 
  statement.There really are quite a few; the leading five or six 
  werenamed in what Lawson posted--you did read that, didn't 
  you?There's plenty of non-Jewish neocons as 
well.

Yes, I read that one post that mentioned Perle and another person but 
didn't notice others actually in the Administration. My spedific question was 
how many " Jewish Neocons" are employed by the 
Administration.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
jstein@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
 shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman
  thedoc108@
wrote:

 Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
 are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
 discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
 defending a position that almost everybody has
 abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is 
the
 best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
Actually, he doesn't.
   
Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-
day 
  TMO
policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the 
TM 
   Program.
  
   Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
   defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
   case for them. (There's a difference.)
 
  To your credit, Judy, I really don't think you spend 
much 
  time
  either defending or making a positive case for things 
such as
  Rajas, weighing bumpkins in gold, Maharishi Peanut 
Butter, 
  etc.

 Right, those are topics I find it difficult to make
 a positive case for (especially since there is no
 such thing as Maharishi Peanut Butter).
   
   As I said, there is no such thing as Maharishi
   Peanut Butter.
  
  
  
  Of course there isn't, Judy.
  
  You do understand that my use of the term peanut butter is 
meant 
  to be satirical, don't you?
  
  I would have hoped you got the fact that MMY has put his name on 
  Almond Butter, a product that MAPI in fact sells (along with 
soap 
  and other such nonsense).
  
  How someone could water-down his all-important message by doing 
that 
  is beyond me.
 
 It's  fund-raiser.


...then it's a very poor and sad form of fund-raising...


 It funds research on ayurveda plus other stuff. If you think that 
isn't 
 important,




...no, I don't think it's important in light of the message of 
bringing TM to the world.

Look, the TMO is, by definition, a finite organisation with finite, 
limited resources to get out its message.  To waste time, money and 
energy on these other things is, simply that: a waste.





 consider the amount of research that has been done under the 
generic name of 
 chayvanparash (sp) vs Maharishi Amrit Kalash.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  worst thing I do that can be considered an offense along 
the 
 lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
 Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
 
 I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
 
 Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things  -- 
 plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
you  
 think I would be refused a Dome badge?
 
 
 
 Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to 
give  
 advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since 
they preferred  not 
 to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the 
local Hari  
 Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal.



Wonderful!

Thanks for that piece of trivia, MDixon, you made my day!



 I mentioned it to the center  
 management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive 
them that day.  
 Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come 
to  
 Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty 
bar. There are  
 other great stories out there I'm sure!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 I dunno. 
  That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making  the 
accusations 
  really knew.
 
 
 Ah, so it was rhetorical:  you already know and wanted to know if 
I knew.
 
 
  
 
 
 No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
make a  
 charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of 
neocon  Jews, 
 they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.


I think what Spare Egg is saying, MDixon, is that the Jews control 
the world.

You know what the comedienne Brett Butler said on this subject as it 
pertains to the entertainment business:  The Jews don't control 
Hollywood; the Gay Jews do.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread Peter


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central
 Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  worst thing I do that can be considered an
 offense along the 
 lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to
 my local Hari 
 Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
 
 I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
 
 Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both
 those things  -- 
 plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the
 future -- do you  
 think I would be refused a Dome badge?
 
 
 
 Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian
 couple, here to give  
 advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted
 to go. Since they preferred  not 
 to cook where they were staying they asked me to
 take them to the local Hari  
 Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I
 mentioned it to the center  
 management and asked them to explain I wasn't
 available to drive them that day.  
 Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas
 that had come to  
 Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to
 go to a titty bar. There are  
 other great stories out there I'm sure!

Tittie bar? Like a bosom bar?




 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  sparaig@ writes:
  
   
  I dunno. 
   That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making  the 
 accusations 
   really knew.
  
  
  Ah, so it was rhetorical:  you already know and wanted to know 
if I 
 knew.
  
  
   
  
  
  No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going 
to 
 make a  
  charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of 
 neocon  Jews, 
  they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.
 
 There really are quite a few;


Hm.


 the leading five or six




Why don't you tell us who these evil Jews are, Judy...



 were
 named in what Lawson posted--you did read that, didn't you?
 
 There's plenty of non-Jewish neocons as well.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread Peter


--- steven klayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
 are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
 discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
 defending a position that almost everybody has
 abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is
 the
 best technique and produces enlightenment. Almost
 everybody(can I see the hands) knows TM does Not
 produce enlightenment. They have been on 5 or 6 5-8
 year programs and are still waiting for cc after 30
 years. If TM makes you smarter they would have
 already
 figured it out. They havent. Millions have learned
 TM.
 If it takes 5-8 years can you show me 50% who have
 gotten enlightened? How about 25%? How about 10%?
 1%?
 .1?.o1%? 
 Oh , somebody claims to have flown. Show me one
 person
 who can fly.Just one, please. After 30 years. 
 Arent there references thru out history of some who
 could fly? They were not doing the TM Sidhis program
 therefore I must conclude that the only ones who can
 fly dont do TM sidhis therefore TM sidhis prevent
 flying. This is an example of reverse Sparaig logic.
 I was emailed by a former FFLife person who said to
 me
 Why are you trying to reason with morons? He was
 right . You cant. It is like trying to talk to
 fundamentalist christians, or fundamentalist
 muslims.
 They are beyond considering another point of view.
 TM is a wonderful technique. I love to meditate.
 Actually my meditations are much deeper since I
 started receiving deeksha. And finally I have been
 having some of the experiences that we talked about
 for 30 years since I received deeksha.
 Give it up Gerbal 88. Its a waste of bandwidth.They
 will get it when they get it. Like the rest of us.


Well! No soup for you either!



 
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[FairfieldLife] Save Dogs in China

2006-08-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Save Dogs in China





Dear Friend,

I thought you might be interested in this Humane Society International campaign to save dogs in China.

The recent killing of more than 50,000 dogs in southwestern China has prompted worldwide outrage and underscores the need for animal protection laws in China. There are currently no laws on the books in China that would protect companion animals.

Please contact the Chinese Ambassador to the U.S. on this issue now!

https://community.hsus.org/campaign/china_dogs

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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


 
 I showed up yesterday at my supermarket buck naked, AS GOD THE 
 ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING MADE ME, and they threatened to call the 
cops. 
 OH WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!!! 

The Justice? You don't look good naked, that's where the  justice is.  



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tommy Chong- Stoned on Meditation New Book: The I Chong'

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Mason
I still rate Cheech  Chong's 'Basketball Jones' as a classic track  
the cartoon too, that was wild. Did you listen to George Harrison's 
guitar on that track? One of the loosest tastiest contributions he 
ever made, I reckon.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 The best thing that ever happened to Toomy Chong was the prison 
 sentence he got a few years back.
 
 It revived a dying career as he got much publicity out of being 
 sentenced to prison for a silly, minor offense like having a bong 
 pipe or some such thing.
 
 Only the truth is that although, technically, the minor offense is 
 the reason he was sentenced to prison, that isn't the real reason 
he 
 got the sentence he did.
 
 Apparently, no one ever spends time in prison for what Tommy was 
 convicted of.  But Tommy was so beligerant in court and so 
 disrespectful of the judge that that is why the judge sentenced him 
 to spend time in prison...it had nothing to do with what he was 
 actually convicted of.
 
 So, obviously, Chong did it all as a publicity stunt and...it 
worked!
 
 What a phony.
 
 
 
 
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 wrote:
 
  Tommy Chong
  The world's funniest stoner on meditation, surviving prison, and 
 his new book, `The I Chong'
  
Illustration by Nathan Ota
  or Tommy Chong to get straight, he's got to go to God. Not 
God 
 as envisioned by, say, Jerry Falwell, not the God of hellfire, but 
 the omniscient source of goodness and, yes, jokes. He's cultivated 
a 
 meditative practice over the years of smash hit movies, Grammy-
 winning comedy albums, and woozy influence over decades of pop 
 culture as half of the comedy duo Cheech  Chong. So when he was 
 busted in 2003 for selling Tommy Chong bongs and sentenced to nine 
 months in the federal penitentiary at Taft, California, one of the 
 items he brought with him was the I Ching, the ancient Chinese Book 
 of Changes. While in prison, he started ruminating on life's 
 lessons, and the result was his new book, The I Chong: Meditations 
 from the Joint. This book is a breezy vision of the man's 
 essential Chongness, as he writes not some preachy life lessons 
 but about a life lived: growing up rough as the mixed-race child of 
 a Chinese father and a Scottish-Irish mother in Western Canada; 
 learning
   to tango with his wife, Shelby; and using his gentleness and wit 
 to thrive in lock-up. I met the warden one day. I swear to God, 
 I've met fans but he was one of the biggest fans ever, says 
 Chong. He says, `Are they treating you OK?' He turned out to be a 
 really sweet guy.   –Dean Kuipers
  CityBeat: Each chapter leaf in the book starts with a 
hexagram 
 from the I Ching.   Tommy Chong: I went through the I Ching and 
just 
 picked out a heading that would best suit the chapter. And the I 
 Ching – I was just doing it – it's three lines on top, three lines 
 below. And they're either broken or straight. And it's based on an 
 ancient book called the Book of Changes. You throw them – they used 
 to do it with bones, but then they evolved it to coins, and they 
 used to do it with yarrow stalks [a common, long-stemmed white 
 flower]. What you get is a good sense of how you're feeling, where 
 you're at in your life. 
How is this a book of meditations?   I'm a writer, I just write 
 all the time. I hadn't planned it to be a book, I just have a 
 compulsion. I tried to write a Cheech  Chong book, and I've been 
 working on it for five years, and I just can't get it going. But 
 this new book was so personal that, when I started writing it, I 
 realized: no one knows who I am. So I started writing about who I 
 am, and I picked out memories from my past and then I realized, 
 damn, I'm almost 70 years old, so I've got a lot of memories.
And those are meditative?   Well, I'm into meditation. 
Actually, 
 Cheech turned me on to meditation. When I first met Cheech, he 
 followed that guru from India [Maharishi Mahesh Yogi]. Every once 
in 
 a while I'd go over to meet with Cheech, and he'd be meditating. It 
 wasn't 'til years and years later that I read a book by Joel 
 Goldsmith, The Mystical I, and he went into the depth of meditating 
 with your mind on God. And so when I went into prison, I thought: 
 well, this is the best place in the world to put meditation to work.
What was your meditative practice in prison?   I ended up being 
 the go-to guy with the I Ching. You have a lot of time in jail, so 
I 
 read about how they did it with the yarrow stalks, and yarrow 
stalks 
 were growing in the Indian garden at the prison. I did I Ching 
 readings for the prisoners and it would blow people's minds. I was 
 in a recreation room and I was throwing coins and doing mine and 
 this guy, Mike, came up to me and he asked, What are you up to, 
 Chong? And I told him, and I said, Do you want me to do your 
 reading? And he said Sure. So I had him throw the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 The worst thing I do that can be considered an offense along the 
 lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
 Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
 
 I also attend weekly yoga classes.
 
 Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things -- 
 plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
 think I would be refused a Dome badge?
 
If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally asked 
about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), because it 
gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique which 
does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM Teacher, I 
don't really know what the reply would be. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Computer Question....sorry to change the subject for a moment...

2006-08-10 Thread inthislifetime300
never mind...
found it
spoofstick.com


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 Does anyone know of a nifty little program that slaps the domain 
name 
 you are currently on in large green letters on top of your window 
 while on the net.
 
 I just downloaded the newest version of Firefox and lost that 
little 
 utility.  
 
 It's very handy to verify where you REALLY are.  ha
 
 And I can't remember what it is called and can't find it in my 
 programs.
 
 Anyone?
 
 thanks!







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 11:56:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
  wrote:  In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. 
  Central Daylight Time,  shempmcgurk@netscape.net 
  writes:  The worst thing I do that can be considered 
  an "offense" along the  lines considered above is that I 
  occasionally go to my local Hari  Krishna temple for the 
  Sunday night feast.  I also attend weekly yoga 
  classes.  Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about 
  both those things --  plus, if I refused to stop those 
  activities in the future -- do you  think I would be refused a 
  Dome badge?Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to 
  drive the Indian couple, here to give  advanced techniques, 
  around where ever they wanted to go. Since they preferred not  
  to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the 
  local Hari  Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I 
  mentioned it to the center  management and asked them to explain I 
  wasn't available to drive them that day.  Another friend of 
  mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come to  Memphis, 
  only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty bar. There 
  are  other great stories out there I'm sure!Tittie bar? Like a 
  bosom bar?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 9:32:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
 ,  MDixon6569@,  MDi
 
  
  In a message dated 8/9/06  11:03:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  jflanegi@ writes:
   
  Do you wish nobody ever gave their life for your country?
   
  I can't speak for the past. For the present, Yes, absolutely 
Yes,  
 I 
  wish this foolish and insane idea of giving one's life for  
one's 
  country was not seen as valid.
  
  
   
  Speaking for the past is very important. We learn from our past 
or  
 we are 
  doomed to repeat it as the old saying goes. I think  everybody 
 would like to see 
  the idea of giving one's life for his  country as being foolish 
and 
  unnecessary, but at this time in man's  evolution it just hasn't 
 gotten there yet. As 
  long as people  value political, economic, and religious freedom 
 and there are 
   people that are absolutely hell bent on denying your freedoms 
that 
 you  
  cherish, it will be necessary for some to lay their lives down  
 for their society and 
  their society owes them a very great debt  of gratitude.
 
 Yes, you speak for the past very  eloquently.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 While I know it's not your intent, I'll take that as a compliment. 
Until  
 then, go to the dome, round your ears off and maybe the people 
that would  
 deprive you of freedom will have a change of heart and not want to 
force  their way 
 of life on you and others and be content with their own lives as 
they  are or 
 try a more civilized means of bettering  themselves.

My complement was exactly that. However I don't feel you are 
addressing the present global reality.

With regard to bouncing in the Dome, maybe peace will be achieved 
and maybe not. This is hypothetical from both our perspectives since 
neither one of us is there (and as I've said here before, I no 
longer practice the sidhis). 

The last part of my comment on war's current obsolescence explicitly 
mentioned negotiation as an alternative- hard-headed and grounded 
negotiation, keeping our country's best interests in mind.

If you would rather support killing, then that is your choice, but 
keep in mind that it is a choice, not the sole alternative.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Save Dogs in China

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 12:02:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  Dear 
  Friend,I thought you might be interested in this Humane Society 
  International campaign to save dogs in China.The recent killing of 
  more than 50,000 dogs in southwestern China has prompted worldwide outrage and 
  underscores the need for animal protection laws in China. There are currently 
  no laws on the books in China that would protect companion 
  animals.Please contact the Chinese Ambassador to the U.S. on this 
  issue 
  now!https://community.hsus.org/campaign/china_dogsRick 
  

Yeah,. very sad thing to read and I think it was only in one county. They 
beat the dogs with sticks to kill them and went house to house in the 
night making noise to get the dogs to bark so they could home in on them. I want 
my babyback babyback babyback babyback, I want babyback 
ribs.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: ShivaMa's Second Letter My Dome Rejection to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
 
  
  I showed up yesterday at my supermarket buck naked, AS GOD THE 
  ALMIGHTY, SUPREME BEING MADE ME, and they threatened to call the 
 cops. 
  OH WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!!! 
 
 The Justice? You don't look good naked, that's where the  justice 
is.  

I *thought* that was you, skulking around the neighborhood in the 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
snip
  As I said, there is no such thing as Maharishi
  Peanut Butter.
 
 Of course there isn't, Judy.
 
 You do understand that my use of the term peanut butter is meant 
 to be satirical, don't you?
 
 I would have hoped you got the fact that MMY has put his name on 
 Almond Butter, a product that MAPI in fact sells (along with soap 
 and other such nonsense).

You weren't aware that almonds are highly
recommended in Ayur-Veda?  And that peanuts are
*not* recommended?

My point was that your satire falls flat.  Plus
which, the item is called Maharishi Ayurveda
Products Almond Butter, not Maharishi Almond
Butter.  In other words, he's put his name on the
distribution company, not the products themselves
(except for the honey, which is Maharishi Vedic
Honey).

 How someone could water-down his all-important message by doing 
 that is beyond me.

MAPI's products are yet another money-maker, of
course.  Assuming the profits are used to further
the TMO's goals, that's hardly watering down
the message.

(And oh, by the way, the almond butter has been
discontinued, to my sorrow; it was *really* good
almond butter, best I've ever had.)






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[FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
Things aren't looking good for the Rethugs so wouldn't you have guessed 
it another ridiculous terrorist alert.  Gotta keep the people in fear 
to control them. So how many days until we learn this plot was bogus?   
And such mindless security, not allowing liquids, lipstick, chapstick.  
I'm surprised they don't take away your car keys.  I learned how slit an 
attackers throat with a car key in a corporate defense class that many 
have taken nationwide.  Oh well, better not give them any ideas.

We know who the real terrorists are anyway: the ones in the White House.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
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 And there IS such a thing as cashew delight, but Maharishi
 Ayurveda condemns foods pulled out of the ground, as a rule.

Cashews grow on trees, actually.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree, Steven, it really is like trying to reason with 
 fundamentalists of whatever ilk.

We belong to a mu-tu-al
Masturbation so-ci-et-y,
My buddy and me...







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
In a message dated 8/10/06 11:28:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

No,  Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
make a  
  

charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of  


neocon Jews, 
  

they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.



There really are quite a few; the leading five or six  were
named in what Lawson posted--you did read that, didn't  you?

There's plenty of non-Jewish neocons as  well.



Yes, I read that one post that mentioned Perle and another person but  didn't 
notice others actually in the Administration. My spedific question was  how 
many  Jewish Neocons are employed by the  Administration.

Wolfowitz was a big time NeoCon in the administration.  Leo Strauss was 
a very sick man to have started all this crap.  You can learn about the 
two fundie factions the NeoCons and the Islamist fundies in The Power 
of Nightmares  available here:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Those Clever Iranians...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 1:07:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With 
  regard to bouncing in the Dome, maybe peace will be achieved and maybe 
  not. This is hypothetical from both our perspectives since neither one of 
  us is there (and as I've said here before, I no longer practice the 
  sidhis). The last part of my comment on war's current obsolescence 
  explicitly mentioned negotiation as an alternative- hard-headed and 
  grounded negotiation, keeping our country's best interests in 
  mind.If you would rather support killing, then that is your choice, 
  but keep in mind that it is a choice, not the sole 
alternative.

I'm not so sure that bouncing in the dome will ever accomplish the desired 
goal either but I'm all for give it a good try since it is harmless and not done 
at tax payer expense. As for resolving conflicts by negotiation, I think 
everybody agrees with that approach when the people you try to reason with are 
reasonable. But when somebody puts a gun to your head or attempts to while 
reasoning, self defense is one's first obligation.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 1:26:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Things aren't looking good for the Rethugs so wouldn't you have guessed 
  it another ridiculous "terrorist" alert. Gotta keep the people in fear 
  to control them. So how many days until we learn this plot was bogus? 
  And such mindless security, not allowing liquids, lipstick, chapstick. 
  I'm surprised they don't take away your car keys. I learned how slit an 
  attackers throat with a car key in a corporate defense class that many 
  have taken nationwide. Oh well, better not give them any ideas.We 
  know who the real terrorists are anyway: the ones in the White 
  House.

And had the plot not been foiled and had succeeded you would be the very 
one demanding an investigation as how this could have happened and why 
passengers weren't warned and searched better. Damn those terrorists! They just 
screw everything up!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 11:28:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 No,  Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
 make a  
  charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of  
 neocon Jews, 
  they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.
 
 There really are quite a few; the leading five or six  were
 named in what Lawson posted--you did read that, didn't  you?
 
 There's plenty of non-Jewish neocons as  well.
 
 
 
 Yes, I read that one post that mentioned Perle and another person 
but  didn't 
 notice others actually in the Administration. My spedific question 
was  how 
 many  Jewish Neocons are employed by the  Administration.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dome Rejection From Shiva Ma Ryan

2006-08-10 Thread Ivica Kosti#263;



 Dear Jeanne,I think that, if your e-mail is for dr. Hagelin, then you should send an e-mail to him, and not to Fairfield Life group.  Otherwise, it is not a letter, but an open letter, and that is a big difference.  So, something is not clear in the way you send your e-mail, and now you send also a second e-mail in the same unclear way.  I would suggest to you that, if you really want just to send e-mail to dr. Hagelin, with no other intentions, you just simply send
 an e-mail to him, and not to whole group.  That would be much more clear, honest, better and more nice.  Greetings  Jai Guru Devdhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@yahoo.com wrote:  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection"Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you thinkmay benefit from it.All Love,Shiva MaMy Dome rejectionShiva Ma Ryan to John HagelinAug 2 (5 days ago)Dear John,I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at thedome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one ofthe most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share thisletter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH" aboutwhat has happened in Fairfield.
 Please read everything I have writtenin this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as "TRUTHFUL" asI can. I also have suggestions at the  end of this e-mail, that maybenefit EVERYONE!When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to beprocessed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance,because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced anytechniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT saintfrom Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man questioningme "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and thatwhat I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question toover 600 people that I initiated, back in the seventies: "Everythingwe learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This answerseemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was notaccepted then for the dome.This past Saturday
 July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister andbrother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I shouldapply now for the dome, because they  were accepting EVERYONE!Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, I wastold EVERYONE was WELCOME BACK!!! The words "All sins would beforgiven" were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have neverconsidered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a sin. Ihave been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over thelast twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. EachONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT andETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in thepast. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!! Yet Maharishi becameinaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 Course in1983. My heart was longing for him, So I felt that one by one Hestarted sending
 different saints to BLESS ME!!! Over the years, Ihave received the GRACE and BLESSINGS from over 15 different saintsthat have visited Fairfield since 1997.  In 1994 my first GREATBLESSING was from MOTHER MEERA, in Germany. She changed my lifeforever... I have had the GREAT fortune of traveling with many ofthese DIVINE BEINGS. I am so GRATEFUL for the Love and Grace I havebeen given from these PURE DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS of Gods andGoddess's.I want to offer my HUMBLEST GRATITUDE to Maharishi for alwaysremaining in my HEART of HEARTS, since November 19, 1971. I will be inHIS ETERNAL DEBT for the GRACE HE SHOWERED upon me over and over againthroughout all these years. JAI GURU DEV MAHARISHI! I LOVE YOU SOMUCH.At the course office, Jeff Cohen was so sweet and kind to me on thephone, going over the guidelines for acceptance for the course.However the words he used when telling me what I needed to do,
 to getmy badge, still penetrate me like millions of daggers in my HEART. Ihave not been able to shake them. {Please ask Maharishi to help mewith this.}  He said I would be able to get my badge if: "I SEVEREDany connection I had with any saints and SEVERED the use of anytechniques that they had taught me, and that I would NEVER establish aconnection with them again or practice any other techniques other thanMaharishi's, EVER AGAIN. And that I had to put all of this in writing,promising that I would do this. For GOD'S SAKE, How in the name ofWHOLENESS! ONENESS! DIVINITY! and SELF REALIZATION! could I promisethat My SOUL WOULD NEVER ALLOW THATI could have lied and said anything that Jeff wanted to hear, got mybadge, and no one would have known. THAT IS NOT ME, THAT IS NOT HOW IREPRESENT TRUTH AND DIVINITY. I DO NOT, AND I WILL NOT, EVER LIE toachieve a small gain in the present, who would I be
 lying to ONLYMY SELFWhen Jeff was explaing to me how Maharishi said that one should notcross the river in two 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
snip
   No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going
   to make a charge that the administration is heavily influenced 
   lots of neocon  Jews, they might name more than one or two to 
   back up the  statement.
  
  There really are quite a few;
 
 Hm.
 
  the leading five or six
 
 Why don't you tell us who these evil Jews are, Judy...

I don't know that any of them are evil, actually.
What makes you think they're evil?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Things aren't looking good for the Rethugs so wouldn't you have 
 guessed it another ridiculous terrorist alert.  Gotta keep the 
 people in fear to control them. So how many days until we learn 
 this plot was bogus?

This one was almost certainly for real.  It'll be
*exploited* up the wazoo, though.
   
 And such mindless security, not allowing liquids

Supposedly the explosives that were to be used were
in liquid form.  There was one plot to blow up planes
awhile back that planned on using an explosive liquid
in a bottle of contact lens cleaning solution.

 lipstick, chapstick

And you could easily disguise plastic explosive as
lipstick and Chapstick, so that makes sense too.

The real idiocy is the administration's attempt to
use this plot to justify the Iraq war.  These
terrorists were home-grown Brits, for pete's sake.

For the cost of a couple of days' worth of the war
in Iraq, we could outfit all our airports with
scanners that detect explosives (only a few have
them now).







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep instruction private

2006-08-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep instruction private





on 8/9/06 6:42 PM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If people just respected the directive to keep meditation instruction 
private, then everyone could be accepted into the dome. It really is a 
no brainer. I never get asked any questions regarding my dome 
acceptance except governor training course dates! 

People who get the TM inquisition have brought it on themselves by not 
keeping their mouths shut about other techniques.

It's a simple, natural process--just keep the information to yourself!

Not that simple. The dome police have been sending spies to Amma and other events for years. Even as far as Chicago. Also, there are plenty of people not working for the Capital who take it upon themselves to report others whom they consider off the program.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
In a message dated 8/10/06 1:26:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Things aren't looking good for the Rethugs so wouldn't you have guessed  
it another ridiculous terrorist alert. Gotta keep the people in fear  
to control them. So how many days until we learn this plot was bogus?  
And such mindless security, not allowing liquids, lipstick, chapstick.  
I'm surprised they don't take away your car keys. I learned how slit an  
attackers throat with a car key in a corporate defense class that many  
have taken nationwide. Oh well, better not give them any ideas.

We  know who the real terrorists are anyway: the ones in the White  House.




And had the plot not been foiled and had succeeded you would be the very  one 
demanding an investigation as how this could have happened and why  
passengers weren't warned and searched better. Damn those terrorists! They 
just  screw 
everything up!

Nonsense, I'm smarted than that.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Things aren't looking good for the Rethugs so wouldn't you have 
guessed it another ridiculous terrorist alert.  Gotta keep the 
people in fear to control them. So how many days until we learn 
this plot was bogus?



This one was almost certainly for real.  It'll be
*exploited* up the wazoo, though.
   
  

And such mindless security, not allowing liquids



Supposedly the explosives that were to be used were
in liquid form.  There was one plot to blow up planes
awhile back that planned on using an explosive liquid
in a bottle of contact lens cleaning solution.

  

lipstick, chapstick



And you could easily disguise plastic explosive as
lipstick and Chapstick, so that makes sense too.

The real idiocy is the administration's attempt to
use this plot to justify the Iraq war.  These
terrorists were home-grown Brits, for pete's sake.

For the cost of a couple of days' worth of the war
in Iraq, we could outfit all our airports with
scanners that detect explosives (only a few have
them now).

It's hard to convince me that any of these plots are real.  If they are 
they were probably tricked by black ops.   They are going to make 
traveling so inconvenient that you will probably check in at the  
airport and then be locked into some kind of cage and loaded on to the 
plane.  All this because of the hysteria and gullibility of the American 
sheeple.  Maybe they will make us all fly nude, perish the thought. :)




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 1:36:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:  In a message dated 8/10/06 
  11:28:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
   No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
   make a   charge that the administration is heavily 
  influenced by lots of  neocon Jews,   they might name more 
  than one or two to back up the statement.  There really are 
  quite a few; the leading five or six were named in what Lawson 
  posted--you did read that, didn't you?  There's plenty of 
  non-Jewish neocons as well.Yes, I read 
  that one post that mentioned Perle and another person but didn't  
  notice others actually in the Administration. My spedific question was how 
   many " Jewish Neocons" are employed by the Administration.http://www.middleeast.org/jewishneocons.htm

Well, Havanagilla!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep instruction private

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 2:09:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not that 
  simple. The dome police have been sending spies to Amma and other events for 
  years. Even as far as Chicago. Also, there are plenty of people not working 
  for the Capital who take it upon themselves to report others whom they 
  consider “off the program.”

Well next time you go see Amma, get a letter from her stating you didn't 
come see her.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 2:25:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And 
  had the plot not been foiled and had succeeded you would be the very one 
  demanding an investigation as how this could have happened and why 
  passengers weren't warned and searched better. Damn those terrorists! 
  They just screw everything up!Nonsense, I'm smarted than 
  that.

No you're not.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
In a message dated 8/10/06 2:25:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

And  had the plot not been foiled and had succeeded you would be the very 


one  
  

demanding an investigation as how this could have happened and why  
passengers weren't warned and searched better. Damn those terrorists!  They 


just screw 
  

everything up!



Nonsense, I'm smarted than  that.




No you're not.

How would you know?  You're just be pretentious and not very smart yourself.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 3:18:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  In a message dated 8/10/06 2:25:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]net 
  writes: And had the plot not been foiled 
  and had succeeded you would be the very  one 
   demanding an investigation as how this could have 
  happened and why passengers weren't warned and searched better. 
  Damn those terrorists! They  just screw 
   everything up! 
  Nonsense, I'm smarted than 
  that.No you're not.How 
  would you know? You're just be pretentious and not very smart 
  yourself. 

So you weren't pulling for an independent investigation of 
911?
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[FairfieldLife] Awareness of cosmic life

2006-08-10 Thread bob_brigante
Guru Purnima Celebration,  13.7.06
 
MAHARISHI:   all those who are going home, what you have experienced 
is familiarity with the finest fields of creative intelligence 
within. These longer times, longer time, longer time,  taking the 
mind to experience the Sutras, Sutra after Sutra, finer feeling of 
Sutra after Sutra, finer Sutra after finer Sutra. This has made your 
awareness familiar with the administrative activity of cosmic life.
 
Finer you experience, finer fields of creativity you enliven in your 
awareness. Finer experience of each Sutra. Each Sutra enlivens the 
finer field of cosmic creativity in your single awareness. It is the 
greatest gift of life that you are enlivening for yourself. 
 
And I tell you, don`t worry what happens to the national life or 
what happens to your environment,  coherence and all...  These are 
the gossips. We are not so much (?) by the people say about our 
influence in the environment, the whole influence in Holland, in the 
national consciousness. It doesn`t matter what happens outside. But 
basically our life, our consciousness, our Atma, ourself becomes 
more and more stabilized in the total reality of cosmic 
constitution. That is our gain. We don`t mind what happens outside. 
We are happy to see that outside also becomes better, but basic 
thing is what happens to us. After each meditation our own 
awareness, our own mind, our own intellect, our own consciousness is 
in tune more and more with that energy and intelligence which 
administers the universe. We are more and more administrator of 
cosmic life in our own Self. What will happen, our own desire, our 
own goals in life will be materialized for us more easily...  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman 
thedoc108@ 
   wrote:
   
Gerbal 88-You are out of your mind if you think you
are going to be able to engage in an inteligent
discourse with Sparaig. He spends much of his day
defending a position that almost everybody has
abandoned years or decades ago- namely that TM is the
best technique and produces enlightenment.
   
   Actually, he doesn't.
   
   Spare Egg spends most of his day defending present-day TMO 
   policies, NOT so much either the TM Technique or the TM 
Program.
  
  Actually, what Lawson does (and I do) is not so much
  defend present-day TMO policies as make the positive
  case for them.  (There's a difference.)



 
 ...make the positve case...? How?
 Initiations down, weeknd courses down, SCI down,
 sidhis down. What is the result? Social problems up, 
 terrorism up, and in the case of you folks, National
 debt costs $1B per day in interest alone.
 
 The world is going to hell in a handcart, and Maharishi
 blames a small island off the north western corner of
 Europe.


*

You are not stating MMY's position correctly. He pulled TMO 
activities from scorpionland because he did not want to support 
wrongdoers with nectar. And, in fact, Great (ha!) Britain is one of 
the leaders in the handcart race to hell:

Britain is living through its most threatening time since the 
second world war, John Reid, the home secretary, warned today.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1840482,00.html 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tommy Chong- Stoned on Meditation New Book: The I Chong'

2006-08-10 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
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 The best thing that ever happened to Toomy Chong was the prison 
 sentence he got a few years back.
 
 It revived a dying career as he got much publicity out of being 
 sentenced to prison for a silly, minor offense like having a bong 
 pipe or some such thing.
 
 Only the truth is that although, technically, the minor offense is 
 the reason he was sentenced to prison, that isn't the real reason 
he 
 got the sentence he did.
 
 Apparently, no one ever spends time in prison for what Tommy was 
 convicted of.  But Tommy was so beligerant in court and so 
 disrespectful of the judge that that is why the judge sentenced 
him 
 to spend time in prison...it had nothing to do with what he was 
 actually convicted of.
 
 So, obviously, Chong did it all as a publicity stunt and...it 
worked!
 
 What a phony.
 
 

*

Chong was convicted of selling drug paraphernalia because he pled 
guilty after the feds threatened to prosecute his wife and son (who 
financed the biz) unless he did so:

http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/08/09/chong/index_np.html

This was his web site:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/drugs/pipe-sites/chong-glass.htm





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 I dunno. 
  That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making  the accusations 
  really knew.
 
 
 Ah, so it was rhetorical:  you already know and wanted to know if I knew.
 
 
  
 
 
 No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to make a  
 charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of neocon  Jews, 
 they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.


Huh. The pragmatists in the Israeli government are less fanatical than the 
neocons in and 
around the Bush Administration, it seems:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0809/dailyUpdate.html
US neocons hoped Israel would attack Syria
Israel considered expansion of conflict in Lebanon 'nuts.'






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Researcher say transcendental meditation lessens brain's pain

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
[...]
   How someone could water-down his all-important message by doing 
 that 
   is beyond me.
  
  It's  fund-raiser.
 
 
 ...then it's a very poor and sad form of fund-raising...
 
 
  It funds research on ayurveda plus other stuff. If you think that 
 isn't 
  important,
 
 
 
 
 ...no, I don't think it's important in light of the message of 
 bringing TM to the world.
 
 Look, the TMO is, by definition, a finite organisation with finite, 
 limited resources to get out its message.  To waste time, money and 
 energy on these other things is, simply that: a waste.
 
 

See below. Consider the implications of the research that HAS been done. MAK 
has 
tremendous potential in all sorts of areas. It is complementary to the practice 
of TM.

 
 
 
  consider the amount of research that has been done under the 
 generic name of 
  chayvanparash (sp) vs Maharishi Amrit Kalash.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rejection and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  shempmcgurk@ writes:
  
  The  worst thing I do that can be considered an offense along 
 the 
  lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
  Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
  
  I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
  
  Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things  -- 
  plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
 you  
  think I would be refused a Dome badge?
  
  
  
  Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to 
 give  
  advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since 
 they preferred  not 
  to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the 
 local Hari  
  Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal.
 
 
 
 Wonderful!
 
 Thanks for that piece of trivia, MDixon, you made my day!
 
 
 
  I mentioned it to the center  
  management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive 
 them that day.  
  Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come 
 to  
  Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty 
 bar. There are  
  other great stories out there I'm sure!
 


Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for eating a an ISKON-run restaurant?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events...'

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 8/10/06 10:55:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  sparaig@ writes:
  
   
  I dunno. 
   That's why I asked. I wanted to see if the person making  the 
 accusations 
   really knew.
  
  
  Ah, so it was rhetorical:  you already know and wanted to know if 
 I knew.
  
  
   
  
  
  No, Actually I didn't know, but I thought if somebody is going to 
 make a  
  charge that the administration is heavily influenced by lots of 
 neocon  Jews, 
  they might name more than one or two to back up the  statement.
 
 
 I think what Spare Egg is saying, MDixon, is that the Jews control 
 the world.
 
 You know what the comedienne Brett Butler said on this subject as it 
 pertains to the entertainment business:  The Jews don't control 
 Hollywood; the Gay Jews do.


You should read _An Empire of Their Own_ about the early Jewish Hollywood. 
Anyone who 
thinks that the Jews did NOT control early Hollywood is a nut. They pretty much 
founded 
it. That's not to say they still have complete control over it, however.


BTW, the Christian Science Monitor maintains a website concerning the influence 
of 
neocons:

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html

Another interesting site:

http://pnac.info/





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Ridiculous Alert Circus

2006-08-10 Thread Bhairitu
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In a message dated 8/10/06 3:18:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 8/10/06 2:25:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   writes:





And had the plot not been foiled  and had succeeded you would be the very 


  

one  




demanding an investigation as how this could have  happened and why 
passengers weren't warned and searched better.  Damn those terrorists! They 


  

just screw  




everything up!

 

  

Nonsense, I'm smarted than  that.




No you're not.



How  would you know? You're just be pretentious and not very smart  yourself.


 


So you weren't pulling for an independent investigation of  911?

An independent investigation of 9-11 would be great and is very needed.



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