[Felvtalk] Doxorubicin with or without Human Interferon or Feline Interferon

2019-10-02 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our 1 and ½ year old male, Bado, is FELV+ and has been taking 1ml of 
Human Interferon once per day, seven days on and seven days off, since March of 
2019.  Bado was just diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia.  We have started 
treating Bado with chemo using Doxorubicin.  Does anyone know if the 
Doxorubicin is more or less effective either combined with Human Interferon or 
Feline Interferon, or if we should halt the use of all Interferon for a time 
and just deal with the chemo?  Our oncologist and internist work well together, 
but they do not have a definitive answer for us, so at this point we are 
leaning towards halting the use of all Interferon to be certain it does not 
interfere with the chemo Doxorubicin.  We also want to be sure that this is not 
creating additional risks for Bado to stop all Interferon.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thank you, Wendy and Bado

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[Felvtalk] more re feline interferon omega

2019-06-09 Thread Lorraine Johnston
I see that feline interferon omega was discussed here a number of years ago.

 

Below is recent information about feline interferon omega, shared by a 
biologist who is a member of another feline discussion group.

 

Feline interferon omega is different from human interferon alfa, which will 
eventually cause a serious reaction if injected into a cat (though I’m told it 
can be used orally to control mouth sores with no risk of a reaction).

 

- Lorraine

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

“The European Veterinary Advisory Board on Cat Diseases recommends to treat 
FELV-infected cats with recurring infections as follows : ‘Treat recurring 
infections aggressively (e.g., longer courses of and/or bacteriocidal 
antibiotics). Consider treatment with feline interferon-omega (106 IU/kg SQ q 
24 h for 5 consecutive days, 3 courses starting on days 0, 14 and 60)’ "

“They note in their Table 3 that injectable Feline Omega Interferon showed 
"efficacy in vivo," on FELV+ cats; that is it showed ‘some effects (most likely 
more on secondary infections,’ in properly designed studies by de Mari et al. 
(2004) and Gil et al. (2013). They note also in their Table 3 that subcutaneous 
or oral Human interferon alpha was ineffective in in vivo studies on FELV+ 
cats.” 

“http://www.abcdcatsvets.org/feline-leukaemia-virus-infection/”

(end quote)

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[Felvtalk] feline interferon omega ?

2019-06-08 Thread Lorraine Johnston
Is anyone here using feline interferon omega (FIO) for FeLV cats?  

 

 

Thank you,

 

- Lorraine

 

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no one can imagine."  - Alan Turing 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-31 Thread Amani Oakley
Sheila, I would be very surprised if you found your boy in any sort of crisis 
when he weighs 16-17 pounds. Most of the time, cats affected by FeLV are small 
and scrawny. Cats can carry FeLV, so it is possible he is a carrier. You are 
not near any kind of a problem if he is such a big boy. See what his bloodwork 
shows, but I seriously doubt there will be something of real concern.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-31-16 9:10 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thank you for the info.  He gets bloodwork next week.  I am nervous, he started 
sneezing yesterday.  He is a  healthy and pretty hefty eater.  He refuses soft 
food but he is eats hard food and loves cat milk.  He probably weights about 
16-17 pounds.  I am just trying to help him before he gets sick.  The iFA test 
was positive also.  I only had him since February when he strayed in.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ardy

>From my research, I see that Doxycycline is found to interfere with RNA 
>replication, which is how viruses reproduce. Thus, my theory (based on my 
>observations of what happened with my FeLV little boy AND weekly blood work) 
>is that with the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisolone/Winstrol each does 
>something different and leaving out one of them will often not give you good 
>results.

The Winstrol pumps up red cell production, promotes bone cell reproduction 
(that's why it can be used in older adults with osteoporosis), which in turn 
eventually increases white cell, red cell and platelet numbers since the 
progenitor cells (those that make these three cell lines) are all found in the 
bone marrow and are all attacked by the FeLV virus.

However, the problem is that since the Winstrol does nothing to the virus 
itself, the virus will continue to attack both bone marrow and white cells, 
ultimately killing the cells it attacks, or diverting them from their normal 
activities (producing cells lines or attacking intruders) and instead turning 
them into virus-making machines, causing a greater and greater load of viruses 
in the body. This obviously will eventually overpower the good that the 
Winstrol is doing, since the viruses will keep attacking the new cells being 
promoted by the Winstrol.

The Doxycycline does not kill the viruses. It is an antibiotic, and is unable 
to kill viruses. However, it blocks the virus replication. It is my theory that 
by doing this, it slows down the virus reproduction, allowing the Winstrol to 
pump up the numbers of red cells, white cells, and platelets, without having to 
outcompete the rampant virus reproduction. Once the body gets back to a safe 
zone in terms of red cells, white cells and platelets, it is able to withstand 
and/or fight the viruses more effectively. My view, though, is that there are 
still viruses in the system, and this battle will be waged pretty near 
indefinitely. With Zander, I kept him on the Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisone 
combination for almost a year before I was able to wean him down and not see a 
drop in red cells when I did so. For the rest of his life, I watched him like a 
hawk and any time I felt that his gums were looking a bit paler, or his ears or 
pads were, I would put him back on for a period of time - maybe 6 weeks - until 
his colour returned to normal or I tested his blood and was reassured he was 
okay. Over the years, I found I didn't need to do this as often, so whether the 
body finally is able to win the war on the viruses, or the viruses ultimately 
begin to die off, I'm not sure. I think that the Doxycycline also interferes 
with virus cell wall development, and without an intact viral cell wall, the 
virus will die. Thus, I think that using Doxycycline over time will (a) 
interfere with viral reproduction, keeping viral numbers at a lower level and 
(b) the viruses that do reproduce will have cell wall defects which will mean 
they will die.

To complete the medication picture, as far as I understand it, the Prednisone 
or Prednisolone works to protect the liver, but also dampens down the immune 
response and the virus can cause problems in the areas it attacks (like the 
intestines, for example). I think the Prednisone helps with that.

With respect to the gut, I also learned that the stomach and intestines are 
attacked by the virus, and initially, even when  I could get Zander to eat, he 
would often end up throwing it up. I learned that the intestines aren't acting 
normally and the food doesn't move properly through the intestines, and when it 
stagnates in one spot, it can cause inflammation in that area and other 
problems with the intestinal walls. I theref

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-31 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Thank you for the info.  He gets bloodwork next week.  I am nervous, he started 
sneezing yesterday.  He is a  healthy and pretty hefty eater.  He refuses soft 
food but he is eats hard food and loves cat milk.  He probably weights about 
16-17 pounds.  I am just trying to help him before he gets sick.  The iFA test 
was positive also.  I only had him since February when he strayed in.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ardy

>From my research, I see that Doxycycline is found to interfere with RNA 
>replication, which is how viruses reproduce. Thus, my theory (based on my 
>observations of what happened with my FeLV little boy AND weekly blood work) 
>is that with the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisolone/Winstrol each does 
>something different and leaving out one of them will often not give you good 
>results.

The Winstrol pumps up red cell production, promotes bone cell reproduction 
(that's why it can be used in older adults with osteoporosis), which in turn 
eventually increases white cell, red cell and platelet numbers since the 
progenitor cells (those that make these three cell lines) are all found in the 
bone marrow and are all attacked by the FeLV virus.

However, the problem is that since the Winstrol does nothing to the virus 
itself, the virus will continue to attack both bone marrow and white cells, 
ultimately killing the cells it attacks, or diverting them from their normal 
activities (producing cells lines or attacking intruders) and instead turning 
them into virus-making machines, causing a greater and greater load of viruses 
in the body. This obviously will eventually overpower the good that the 
Winstrol is doing, since the viruses will keep attacking the new cells being 
promoted by the Winstrol.

The Doxycycline does not kill the viruses. It is an antibiotic, and is unable 
to kill viruses. However, it blocks the virus replication. It is my theory that 
by doing this, it slows down the virus reproduction, allowing the Winstrol to 
pump up the numbers of red cells, white cells, and platelets, without having to 
outcompete the rampant virus reproduction. Once the body gets back to a safe 
zone in terms of red cells, white cells and platelets, it is able to withstand 
and/or fight the viruses more effectively. My view, though, is that there are 
still viruses in the system, and this battle will be waged pretty near 
indefinitely. With Zander, I kept him on the Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisone 
combination for almost a year before I was able to wean him down and not see a 
drop in red cells when I did so. For the rest of his life, I watched him like a 
hawk and any time I felt that his gums were looking a bit paler, or his ears or 
pads were, I would put him back on for a period of time - maybe 6 weeks - until 
his colour returned to normal or I tested his blood and was reassured he was 
okay. Over the years, I found I didn't need to do this as often, so whether the 
body finally is able to win the war on the viruses, or the viruses ultimately 
begin to die off, I'm not sure. I think that the Doxycycline also interferes 
with virus cell wall development, and without an intact viral cell wall, the 
virus will die. Thus, I think that using Doxycycline over time will (a) 
interfere with viral reproduction, keeping viral numbers at a lower level and 
(b) the viruses that do reproduce will have cell wall defects which will mean 
they will die.

To complete the medication picture, as far as I understand it, the Prednisone 
or Prednisolone works to protect the liver, but also dampens down the immune 
response and the virus can cause problems in the areas it attacks (like the 
intestines, for example). I think the Prednisone helps with that.

With respect to the gut, I also learned that the stomach and intestines are 
attacked by the virus, and initially, even when  I could get Zander to eat, he 
would often end up throwing it up. I learned that the intestines aren't acting 
normally and the food doesn't move properly through the intestines, and when it 
stagnates in one spot, it can cause inflammation in that area and other 
problems with the intestinal walls. I therefore added Metoclopromide to 
Zander's regime - just a tiny tiny 1/5 of a table. This helps increase the 
peristaltic action of the stomach and intestines, moves the food through more 
rapidly, thus making the cat feel better, preventing vomiting and avoiding the 
danger of the stool stagnating in one spot and causing or contributing to 
inflammation and other problems in the intestines.

I think I was successful with Zander, pulling him through a several serious 
life-threatening crises, because I used this combination. I didn't start with 
this combination, but as I learned more about the disease and what caused it, 
and how the cat body reac

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-30 Thread Amani Oakley
Thanks Ardy. You did all the heavy lifting for poor Tigger. I am sorry I 
couldn't do more. Thank you for your kind comments, but they are hardly 
deserved. I am doing so little, but hope that by spreading the word, I might be 
able to help others looking for some options.

I am thrilled you got to pat Wild Thing today. Hopefully, he soon figures out 
the heaven that awaits him if he smartens up and comes inside with you.

Glad to hear Topaz is doing so well with you.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-30-16 8:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thanks Amani,
I will save this email so I can review it later if necessary. You have guided 
so many pet-loving care givers in their fight against FeLV, it might not be a 
bad idea for you to type up your guidelines so you can just copy/paste :)

And I will tell you again how much I appreciate all the help you gave me with 
Tigger. Our dear little Topaz has eased our grief of course, but we will always 
have a special place in our heart for our Tigger Babe! And good news - 
yesterday I was able to pet Wild Thing for the first time. He put up with it 
because he was eating. I petted him twice yesterday and twice today, so 
progress is being made there too.

Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ardy

>From my research, I see that Doxycycline is found to interfere with RNA 
>replication, which is how viruses reproduce. Thus, my theory (based on my 
>observations of what happened with my FeLV little boy AND weekly blood work) 
>is that with the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisolone/Winstrol each does 
>something different and leaving out one of them will often not give you good 
>results.

The Winstrol pumps up red cell production, promotes bone cell reproduction 
(that's why it can be used in older adults with osteoporosis), which in turn 
eventually increases white cell, red cell and platelet numbers since the 
progenitor cells (those that make these three cell lines) are all found in the 
bone marrow and are all attacked by the FeLV virus.

However, the problem is that since the Winstrol does nothing to the virus 
itself, the virus will continue to attack both bone marrow and white cells, 
ultimately killing the cells it attacks, or diverting them from their normal 
activities (producing cells lines or attacking intruders) and instead turning 
them into virus-making machines, causing a greater and greater load of viruses 
in the body. This obviously will eventually overpower the good that the 
Winstrol is doing, since the viruses will keep attacking the new cells being 
promoted by the Winstrol.

The Doxycycline does not kill the viruses. It is an antibiotic, and is unable 
to kill viruses. However, it blocks the virus replication. It is my theory that 
by doing this, it slows down the virus reproduction, allowing the Winstrol to 
pump up the numbers of red cells, white cells, and platelets, without having to 
outcompete the rampant virus reproduction. Once the body gets back to a safe 
zone in terms of red cells, white cells and platelets, it is able to withstand 
and/or fight the viruses more effectively. My view, though, is that there are 
still viruses in the system, and this battle will be waged pretty near 
indefinitely. With Zander, I kept him on the Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisone 
combination for almost a year before I was able to wean him down and not see a 
drop in red cells when I did so. For the rest of his life, I watched him like a 
hawk and any time I felt that his gums were looking a bit paler, or his ears or 
pads were, I would put him back on for a period of time - maybe 6 weeks - until 
his colour returned to normal or I tested his blood and was reassured he was 
okay. Over the years, I found I didn't need to do this as often, so whether the 
body finally is able to win the war on the viruses, or the viruses ultimately 
begin to die off, I'm not sure. I think that the Doxycycline also interferes 
with virus cell wall development, and without an intact viral cell wall, the 
virus will die. Thus, I think that using Doxycycline over time will (a) 
interfere with viral reproduction, keeping viral numbers at a lower level and 
(b) the viruses that do reproduce will have cell wall defects which will mean 
they will die.

To complete the medication picture, as far as I understand it, the Prednisone 
or Prednisolone works to protect the liver, but also dampens down the immune 
response and the virus can cause problems in the areas it attacks (like the 
intestines, for example). I think the Prednisone helps with that.

With respect to the gut, I also learned that the stomach and intestines are 
attacked by the virus, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-30 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thanks Amani,

I will save this email so I can review it later if necessary. You have
guided so many pet-loving care givers in their fight against FeLV, it might
not be a bad idea for you to type up your guidelines so you can just
copy/paste :) 

 

And I will tell you again how much I appreciate all the help you gave me
with Tigger. Our dear little Topaz has eased our grief of course, but we
will always have a special place in our heart for our Tigger Babe! And good
news - yesterday I was able to pet Wild Thing for the first time. He put up
with it because he was eating. I petted him twice yesterday and twice today,
so progress is being made there too.

 

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Ardy

 

>From my research, I see that Doxycycline is found to interfere with RNA
replication, which is how viruses reproduce. Thus, my theory (based on my
observations of what happened with my FeLV little boy AND weekly blood work)
is that with the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisolone/Winstrol each does
something different and leaving out one of them will often not give you good
results.

 

The Winstrol pumps up red cell production, promotes bone cell reproduction
(that's why it can be used in older adults with osteoporosis), which in turn
eventually increases white cell, red cell and platelet numbers since the
progenitor cells (those that make these three cell lines) are all found in
the bone marrow and are all attacked by the FeLV virus. 

 

However, the problem is that since the Winstrol does nothing to the virus
itself, the virus will continue to attack both bone marrow and white cells,
ultimately killing the cells it attacks, or diverting them from their normal
activities (producing cells lines or attacking intruders) and instead
turning them into virus-making machines, causing a greater and greater load
of viruses in the body. This obviously will eventually overpower the good
that the Winstrol is doing, since the viruses will keep attacking the new
cells being promoted by the Winstrol.

 

The Doxycycline does not kill the viruses. It is an antibiotic, and is
unable to kill viruses. However, it blocks the virus replication. It is my
theory that by doing this, it slows down the virus reproduction, allowing
the Winstrol to pump up the numbers of red cells, white cells, and
platelets, without having to outcompete the rampant virus reproduction. Once
the body gets back to a safe zone in terms of red cells, white cells and
platelets, it is able to withstand and/or fight the viruses more
effectively. My view, though, is that there are still viruses in the system,
and this battle will be waged pretty near indefinitely. With Zander, I kept
him on the Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisone combination for almost a year
before I was able to wean him down and not see a drop in red cells when I
did so. For the rest of his life, I watched him like a hawk and any time I
felt that his gums were looking a bit paler, or his ears or pads were, I
would put him back on for a period of time - maybe 6 weeks - until his
colour returned to normal or I tested his blood and was reassured he was
okay. Over the years, I found I didn't need to do this as often, so whether
the body finally is able to win the war on the viruses, or the viruses
ultimately begin to die off, I'm not sure. I think that the Doxycycline also
interferes with virus cell wall development, and without an intact viral
cell wall, the virus will die. Thus, I think that using Doxycycline over
time will (a) interfere with viral reproduction, keeping viral numbers at a
lower level and (b) the viruses that do reproduce will have cell wall
defects which will mean they will die. 

 

To complete the medication picture, as far as I understand it, the
Prednisone or Prednisolone works to protect the liver, but also dampens down
the immune response and the virus can cause problems in the areas it attacks
(like the intestines, for example). I think the Prednisone helps with that.

 

With respect to the gut, I also learned that the stomach and intestines are
attacked by the virus, and initially, even when  I could get Zander to eat,
he would often end up throwing it up. I learned that the intestines aren't
acting normally and the food doesn't move properly through the intestines,
and when it stagnates in one spot, it can cause inflammation in that area
and other problems with the intestinal walls. I therefore added
Metoclopromide to Zander's regime - just a tiny tiny 1/5 of a table. This
helps increase the peristaltic action of the stomach and intestines, moves
the food through more rapidly, thus making the cat feel better, preventing
vomiting and avoiding the danger of the stool stagnating in one spot and
causing or contributing to inflammation and other problems in the
intestines.

 

I think I was success

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-30 Thread Ardy Robertson
You must be doing something right Margo, to keep them healthy that long :)

 

Thank you,

Ardy Robertson, Clerk

Town of Garfield – Jackson County, WI

N14438 Valleybrook Ln

Osseo  WI  54758

715-533-0661

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 


My take on Interferon was not that it is meant to be a specific treatment or 
"cure" for anything, just keep them alive by helping with their immune system. 
I have two on it, and they have been interferon for over 3 years. Mako is 
winding down, but he is also hyperthyroid, had feline triaditis, is anemic, and 
is prone to urinary blockage (struvite). He's also 15.

Gribble is currently (knocking on wood) asymptomatic.

I can't say that the interferon is responsible for their (relative) longevity, 
but it's the only thing they've been on consistently.

Margo



-Original Message- 
From: Ardy Robertson 
Sent: Oct 28, 2016 10:45 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>  
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon 




I did use Interferon for my Tigger. I also gave it 7 days on, 7 days off, for 
about 2 months. I did not notice any improvement from it at all. When I finally 
started the Winstrol (other name is Stanizolol) along with Prednisolone, we got 
a very marked improvement in his blood work. I have found out that there is 
strong evidence that Doxycyclene added to this treatment regimen can inhibit 
the duplication of the FeLV virus. Amani could explain this much better than me.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn’t as effective after 3 months use.  It’s 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn’t anemic.  

 

 

 

HOOT

Sheila Armstrong-Brown 

Administrative Aide 

Psych Pool

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-29 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy

>From my research, I see that Doxycycline is found to interfere with RNA 
>replication, which is how viruses reproduce. Thus, my theory (based on my 
>observations of what happened with my FeLV little boy AND weekly blood work) 
>is that with the combination of Doxycycline/Prednisolone/Winstrol each does 
>something different and leaving out one of them will often not give you good 
>results.

The Winstrol pumps up red cell production, promotes bone cell reproduction 
(that's why it can be used in older adults with osteoporosis), which in turn 
eventually increases white cell, red cell and platelet numbers since the 
progenitor cells (those that make these three cell lines) are all found in the 
bone marrow and are all attacked by the FeLV virus.

However, the problem is that since the Winstrol does nothing to the virus 
itself, the virus will continue to attack both bone marrow and white cells, 
ultimately killing the cells it attacks, or diverting them from their normal 
activities (producing cells lines or attacking intruders) and instead turning 
them into virus-making machines, causing a greater and greater load of viruses 
in the body. This obviously will eventually overpower the good that the 
Winstrol is doing, since the viruses will keep attacking the new cells being 
promoted by the Winstrol.

The Doxycycline does not kill the viruses. It is an antibiotic, and is unable 
to kill viruses. However, it blocks the virus replication. It is my theory that 
by doing this, it slows down the virus reproduction, allowing the Winstrol to 
pump up the numbers of red cells, white cells, and platelets, without having to 
outcompete the rampant virus reproduction. Once the body gets back to a safe 
zone in terms of red cells, white cells and platelets, it is able to withstand 
and/or fight the viruses more effectively. My view, though, is that there are 
still viruses in the system, and this battle will be waged pretty near 
indefinitely. With Zander, I kept him on the Winstrol/Doxycycline/Prednisone 
combination for almost a year before I was able to wean him down and not see a 
drop in red cells when I did so. For the rest of his life, I watched him like a 
hawk and any time I felt that his gums were looking a bit paler, or his ears or 
pads were, I would put him back on for a period of time - maybe 6 weeks - until 
his colour returned to normal or I tested his blood and was reassured he was 
okay. Over the years, I found I didn't need to do this as often, so whether the 
body finally is able to win the war on the viruses, or the viruses ultimately 
begin to die off, I'm not sure. I think that the Doxycycline also interferes 
with virus cell wall development, and without an intact viral cell wall, the 
virus will die. Thus, I think that using Doxycycline over time will (a) 
interfere with viral reproduction, keeping viral numbers at a lower level and 
(b) the viruses that do reproduce will have cell wall defects which will mean 
they will die.

To complete the medication picture, as far as I understand it, the Prednisone 
or Prednisolone works to protect the liver, but also dampens down the immune 
response and the virus can cause problems in the areas it attacks (like the 
intestines, for example). I think the Prednisone helps with that.

With respect to the gut, I also learned that the stomach and intestines are 
attacked by the virus, and initially, even when  I could get Zander to eat, he 
would often end up throwing it up. I learned that the intestines aren't acting 
normally and the food doesn't move properly through the intestines, and when it 
stagnates in one spot, it can cause inflammation in that area and other 
problems with the intestinal walls. I therefore added Metoclopromide to 
Zander's regime - just a tiny tiny 1/5 of a table. This helps increase the 
peristaltic action of the stomach and intestines, moves the food through more 
rapidly, thus making the cat feel better, preventing vomiting and avoiding the 
danger of the stool stagnating in one spot and causing or contributing to 
inflammation and other problems in the intestines.

I think I was successful with Zander, pulling him through a several serious 
life-threatening crises, because I used this combination. I didn't start with 
this combination, but as I learned more about the disease and what caused it, 
and how the cat body reacted to it, I would discuss my theories with my vet, 
and she was good enough to agree to my attempts to address each of these 
problems in turn.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-28-16 10:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I did use Interferon for my Tigger. I also gave it 7 days on, 7 days off, for 
about 2 months. I did not notice any improvement from it at all. When I finally 
started the Winstrol (other name is Stanizolol) along with Prednisolone, we got 
a very 

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-29 Thread Margo
My take on Interferon was not that it is meant to be a specific treatment or "cure" for anything, just keep them alive by helping with their immune system. I have two on it, and they have been interferon for over 3 years. Mako is winding down, but he is also hyperthyroid, had feline triaditis, is anemic, and is prone to urinary blockage (struvite). He's also 15.Gribble is currently (knocking on wood) asymptomatic.I can't say that the interferon is responsible for their (relative) longevity, but it's the only thing they've been on consistently.Margo-Original Message-
From: Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net>
Sent: Oct 28, 2016 10:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Ardy Robertson
I did use Interferon for my Tigger. I also gave it 7 days on, 7 days off,
for about 2 months. I did not notice any improvement from it at all. When I
finally started the Winstrol (other name is Stanizolol) along with
Prednisolone, we got a very marked improvement in his blood work. I have
found out that there is strong evidence that Doxycyclene added to this
treatment regimen can inhibit the duplication of the FeLV virus. Amani could
explain this much better than me.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.
I heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7
days off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2
weeks.  His gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.  

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I am staying ahead of him.  He was dropped at my farm at a year old, he is 
almost 2.  He is very healthy at the moment.  Doing all I can to keep it that 
way.  We need to find a cure.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

As long as he is eating, that is good news, but I agree with you that you want 
to get in front of any looming anemia, and the Winstrol does a good job of that 
in many cases.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 10:20 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok, thanks.  My 2nd job is at a vets office so he works with me.  Skylar is 
healthy right now and eating like a pig.  So I hope he keeps that up.  I won't 
use it until after I see what his blood work says in acouple weeks.


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I usually use it in pill form - 1 mg 2x a day, though some vets get it in 
liquid form. Winstrol is also known as Stanazolol. Warning: you are new to this 
group so you may not know of the extreme difficulty most people face when 
trying to get this stuff because it is linked with sports doping scandals. 
Expect an immediate negative response from your vet, though a few of us have 
been lucky to have vets willing to work with us and do what it takes to try and 
save a FeLV+ kitty.

The vet won't have this in stock. It needs to be obtained from a compounding 
pharmacy.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:27 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Is that a liquid?  From a vets office?

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
As long as he is eating, that is good news, but I agree with you that you want 
to get in front of any looming anemia, and the Winstrol does a good job of that 
in many cases.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 10:20 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok, thanks.  My 2nd job is at a vets office so he works with me.  Skylar is 
healthy right now and eating like a pig.  So I hope he keeps that up.  I won't 
use it until after I see what his blood work says in acouple weeks.


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I usually use it in pill form - 1 mg 2x a day, though some vets get it in 
liquid form. Winstrol is also known as Stanazolol. Warning: you are new to this 
group so you may not know of the extreme difficulty most people face when 
trying to get this stuff because it is linked with sports doping scandals. 
Expect an immediate negative response from your vet, though a few of us have 
been lucky to have vets willing to work with us and do what it takes to try and 
save a FeLV+ kitty.

The vet won't have this in stock. It needs to be obtained from a compounding 
pharmacy.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:27 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Is that a liquid?  From a vets office?

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Ok, thanks.  My 2nd job is at a vets office so he works with me.  Skylar is 
healthy right now and eating like a pig.  So I hope he keeps that up.  I won't 
use it until after I see what his blood work says in acouple weeks.


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I usually use it in pill form - 1 mg 2x a day, though some vets get it in 
liquid form. Winstrol is also known as Stanazolol. Warning: you are new to this 
group so you may not know of the extreme difficulty most people face when 
trying to get this stuff because it is linked with sports doping scandals. 
Expect an immediate negative response from your vet, though a few of us have 
been lucky to have vets willing to work with us and do what it takes to try and 
save a FeLV+ kitty.

The vet won't have this in stock. It needs to be obtained from a compounding 
pharmacy.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:27 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Is that a liquid?  From a vets office?

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
I usually use it in pill form - 1 mg 2x a day, though some vets get it in 
liquid form. Winstrol is also known as Stanazolol. Warning: you are new to this 
group so you may not know of the extreme difficulty most people face when 
trying to get this stuff because it is linked with sports doping scandals. 
Expect an immediate negative response from your vet, though a few of us have 
been lucky to have vets willing to work with us and do what it takes to try and 
save a FeLV+ kitty.

The vet won't have this in stock. It needs to be obtained from a compounding 
pharmacy.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:27 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Is that a liquid?  From a vets office?

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Is that a liquid?  From a vets office?

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:26 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



HOOT
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
I also used LTCI before moving on to Winstrol. I had my cat on it for 6 months 
and monitored his blood weekly. Nothing budged at all in terms of seeing any 
improvements in haemoglobin, haematocrit, hemoglobin, etc.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 9:24 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Ok thank you, I will check with the vet about that one today.  If he is anemic, 
I am thinking of checking into the Lymphocyte T-cell immunodulator.  Thanks for 
your help

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

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Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Amani Oakley
Sheila

I haven't had any effect from using Interferon on a FeLV cat, but others in 
this group have. However, if Skyler's gums are white, it sounds very much like 
he is anemic. If the Interferon isn't helping, I suggest a 
Winstrol/Prednisolone/Doxycycline regime.

Amani

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Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: October-28-16 7:35 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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[Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-28 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Has anyone used this Interferon before on an FELV cat?  I started Skylar on 
that.  he is not sick but since the IFA test was also positive, I wanted to 
give him a booster to his immune system so he will hopefully not get sick.  I 
heard it wasn't as effective after 3 months use.  It's 7 days on  and 7 days 
off.  We are in the 3rd series.  I am having blood work taken in 2 weeks.  His 
gums were very white so I hope he isn't anemic.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-08 Thread Tina Terrell
Thank you so much. Do you happen to know what pharmaceutical company?

On Oct 8, 2016 2:16 PM, "Amani Oakley"  wrote:

> Tina
>
>
>
> Check on line. I think I ordered it from a vet pharmaceutical company and
> had it delivered to my vets (with their cooperation and assistance).
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Tina Terrell
> *Sent:* October-08-16 3:14 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lost Hodor
>
>
>
> Hello ! Can anyone tell me if Inteferon is available? My vet doesnt carry
> it due to expense.
> Thank you so much!
> Tina
>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 2:11 PM, "Amani Oakley"  wrote:
>
> Liz, I am so very very sorry. My heart aches for you. At least you know
> how much you did for Hodor, and he knew how adored he was. So few cats get
> to be so happy and cherished, even for a short time.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Liz McCarty
> *Sent:* October-08-16 1:04 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Lost Hodor
>
>
>
> We lost Hodor yesterday. It was extremely hard. He stopped eating and
> drinking. The vet had a hard time finding a vein for the catheter because
> of his anemia. It was so sad. Thank you all for your kind words and
> support. I wish that the vets could have done more to help him. FeLV sucks.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2016-10-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Tina

Check on line. I think I ordered it from a vet pharmaceutical company and had 
it delivered to my vets (with their cooperation and assistance).

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tina 
Terrell
Sent: October-08-16 3:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lost Hodor


Hello ! Can anyone tell me if Inteferon is available? My vet doesnt carry it 
due to expense.
Thank you so much!
Tina

On Oct 8, 2016 2:11 PM, "Amani Oakley" 
> wrote:
Liz, I am so very very sorry. My heart aches for you. At least you know how 
much you did for Hodor, and he knew how adored he was. So few cats get to be so 
happy and cherished, even for a short time.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Liz McCarty
Sent: October-08-16 1:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lost Hodor


We lost Hodor yesterday. It was extremely hard. He stopped eating and drinking. 
The vet had a hard time finding a vein for the catheter because of his anemia. 
It was so sad. Thank you all for your kind words and support. I wish that the 
vets could have done more to help him. FeLV sucks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

2016-05-20 Thread Roxanne Smith
Margo, why did you decide against Retrovir/AZT.I still have two with feline 
leuk, and am having a hard time dealing with the loss of Tiffany. I feel as if 
the grief is overwhelming me. :.(

  From: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir
   
#yiv1129989914 #yiv1129989914 -- DIV {margin:0px;}#yiv1129989914 OH! 

Retrovir is AZT.
 
No, I decided against that.

I do have immunoreglin in reserve...

Margo


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From: Roxanne Smith 
Sent: May 19, 2016 5:48 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir


| I may have asked this question before. However I am going to ask again. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

2016-05-19 Thread Amani Oakley
Margo

I also had a go with the Immunoregulin – delivered from the States urgently, 
and again, my experience was that it didn’t budge Zander’s haematology counts 
one bit, despite giving it a number of months to demonstrate whether it was 
effective or not. However, as I mentioned in my previous post, I just 
discovered that four different viruses or subspecies can cause FeLV, so it is 
not surprising we get different results. Also, I understand that none of the 
tests differentiate between the different viruses.

Amani

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Sent: May-19-16 6:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

OH!

Retrovir is AZT.

No, I decided against that.

I do have immunoreglin in reserve...

Margo
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From: Roxanne Smith
Sent: May 19, 2016 5:48 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

2016-05-19 Thread Margo
OH! Retrovir is AZT. No, I decided against that.I do have immunoreglin in reserve...Margo-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Smith <rescuek9li...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: May 19, 2016 5:48 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

2016-05-19 Thread Margo
I'm unfamiliar with Retrovir, but both my boys have been on interferon since diagnosis. Don't know that it actually helps, but I'm sure not gonna stop it now!They're on 1 week on, 1 week off and the dose is .25mL of a 120 units per mL solution of Interferon Alpha (so the standard 30 units per cat, I just have  them compound it my way ). Used to get in from Roadrunner, but now from Diamondback Pharmacy.I also gave them DMG for a couple of months, but I have slacked off. I do  think it helped, and maybe it's time to pick it up again. When I see them feeling "off" the get a B-12 injection.HTH,Margo-Original Message-
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Sent: May 19, 2016 5:48 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

2016-05-19 Thread Amani Oakley
I tried Zander on Interferon for a decent period of time - maybe 4 to 6 months 
- I can't remember exactly right now. His bloodwork didn't show any 
improvement, and in fact, the opposite. We watched as his values kept dropping 
after being bolstered by a blood transfusion. So my conclusion is that the 
Interferon did not stop the slide downwards as the effects of the blood 
transfusion obviously wore off.

I didn't try the retrovir, and I don't have any direct knowledge about it.

Amani

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Sent: May-19-16 5:49 PM
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[Felvtalk] Interferon and retrovir

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[Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Jetty Dijkshoorn
Good day to you,

 I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he wanted
to join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I found
him a new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a check up
at the vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on feline
leukemia and unfortunately this test turned out positive. As he is doing
much better now than 2 weeks ago. He gained a  lot of weight and starts
playing again I want to try to keep him healthy as long as possible.
Looking for medicatons I landed on your very informational website. I think
I want to start by giving him interferon alpha but this is very expensive
in my country.

I saw that a liquid interferoon should not be that expensive, but the
island pharmacy website is no longer in the air. Have you got another
company and website where I could buy this medication? If I go for
treatment in the Netherlands it will cost me 5 times as much.

Thank you for your advise and keep up the good work.

Jetty Dijkshoorn
Holland
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[Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Jetty Dijkshoorn
Good day to you,

 I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he wanted
to join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I found
him a new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a check up
at the vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on feline
leukemia and unfortunately this test turned out positive. As he is doing
much better now than 2 weeks ago. He gained a  lot of weight and starts
playing again I want to try to keep him healthy as long as possible.
Looking for medicatons I landed on your very informational website. I think
I want to start by giving him interferon alpha but this is very expensive
in my country.

I saw that a liquid interferoon should not be that expensive, but the
island pharmacy website is no longer in the air. Have you got another
company and website where I could buy this medication? If I go for
treatment in the Netherlands it will cost me 5 times as much.

Thank you for your advise and keep up the good work.

Jetty Dijkshoorn
Holland
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Lance
Hi Jetty,

You might check here for interferon alpha: http://www.roadrunnerpharmacy.com

Road Runner is an American pharmacy that specializes in medicine for animals. I 
have ordered interferon alpha from them a number of times.

I am surprised that interferon alpha, a human product, would be prohibitively 
expensive in the Netherlands, as it seems to be widely used and produced. I’m 
hoping that someone there can get it for you cheaper than it would cost to have 
it shipped overseas. 

I would seriously consider looking into Virbagen Omega, a feline recombinant 
interferon. It will be expensive, though it should be somewhat cheaper than it 
is for Americans (we need it flown overseas, overnight. VO is not given all the 
time. Usually, the doses are given over several weeks’ time, then the drug is 
discontinued. 

Virbagen Omega is the only treatment that has been proven to positively affect 
the course of the disease. All other drugs, including interferon alpha, have 
not shown any efficacy in scientific trials. See the Retrovirus Guidelines 
document available here:

http://www.catvets.com/guidelines/practice-guidelines/retrovirus-management-guidelines

Best wishes and hopes for you and your tomcat friend,

Lance

On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good day to you,
 
  I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he wanted to 
 join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I found him a 
 new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a check up at the 
 vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on feline leukemia 
 and unfortunately this test turned out positive. As he is doing much better 
 now than 2 weeks ago. He gained a  lot of weight and starts playing again I 
 want to try to keep him healthy as long as possible. Looking for medicatons I 
 landed on your very informational website. I think I want to start by giving 
 him interferon alpha but this is very expensive in my country.
 
 I saw that a liquid interferoon should not be that expensive, but the island 
 pharmacy website is no longer in the air. Have you got another company and 
 website where I could buy this medication? If I go for treatment in the 
 Netherlands it will cost me 5 times as much.
 
 Thank you for your advise and keep up the good work.
 
 Jetty Dijkshoorn
 Holland
 jdidu...@dubai.com
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Jetty Dijkshoorn
Hi Lance,

thanks so much for your reply, very much appreciated. I checked on the
internet and found 10 ug at eur 152,00 at a webshop. Is that a price which
sounds reasonable to you as I have no clue at all. Talked to my vet this
afternoon and he was not that positive about using interferon. Wallie seems
to be doing right now he is eating a lot and is feelling much better than
when I let him in. The vet prescribed him antibiotics and a prednisone
treatment. If necessary will give him this interferom as well,

Waiting for your feedback,

Kind regards,
Jetty Dijkshoorn



2014-06-03 18:12 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:

 Hi Jetty,

 You might check here for interferon alpha:
 http://www.roadrunnerpharmacy.com

 Road Runner is an American pharmacy that specializes in medicine for
 animals. I have ordered interferon alpha from them a number of times.

 I am surprised that interferon alpha, a human product, would be
 prohibitively expensive in the Netherlands, as it seems to be widely used
 and produced. I’m hoping that someone there can get it for you cheaper than
 it would cost to have it shipped overseas.

 I would seriously consider looking into Virbagen Omega, a feline
 recombinant interferon. It will be expensive, though it should be somewhat
 cheaper than it is for Americans (we need it flown overseas, overnight. VO
 is not given all the time. Usually, the doses are given over several weeks’
 time, then the drug is discontinued.

 Virbagen Omega is the only treatment that has been proven to positively
 affect the course of the disease. All other drugs, including interferon
 alpha, have not shown any efficacy in scientific trials. See the Retrovirus
 Guidelines document available here:


 http://www.catvets.com/guidelines/practice-guidelines/retrovirus-management-guidelines

 Best wishes and hopes for you and your tomcat friend,

 Lance

 On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good day to you,

  I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he wanted
 to join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I found
 him a new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a check up
 at the vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on feline
 leukemia and unfortunately this test turned out positive. As he is doing
 much better now than 2 weeks ago. He gained a  lot of weight and starts
 playing again I want to try to keep him healthy as long as possible.
 Looking for medicatons I landed on your very informational website. I think
 I want to start by giving him interferon alpha but this is very expensive
 in my country.

 I saw that a liquid interferoon should not be that expensive, but the
 island pharmacy website is no longer in the air. Have you got another
 company and website where I could buy this medication? If I go for
 treatment in the Netherlands it will cost me 5 times as much.

 Thank you for your advise and keep up the good work.

 Jetty Dijkshoorn
 Holland
 jdidu...@dubai.com

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Lance
You’re welcome. I only wish I could help more.

30ml of interferon alpha costs me about $45 in the US. That includes shipping, 
I think. 

How is the tomcat’s anemia? Did the vet run new blood work to see if his 
feeling better correlates to a rise in red blood cell values?

Interferon alpha could be expensive over the long run, just because you (or the 
new owner) would be buying it monthly. If I was in your situation (particularly 
being in Europe), and my cat had presented with anemia, I would look into 
Virbagen Omega instead. This drug is available in France, so it seems like it 
should be available throughout western and central Europe. 

Virbagen Omega is made for cats, and according to the literature we have, it 
makes a difference in survival time. Interferon alpha is a human drug, and the 
only evidence we have that it helps is anecdotal, not scientific. I’m not 
saying it doesn’t help. I just lost my FeLV+ girl, Ember, who had the virus for 
a minimum of eight years, and she did very well. I used interferon alpha on 
her. But, Virbagen Omega is not available here, and it costs a lot of money to 
get it sent over, so we used what was available.

Bottom line: I’m encouraging you to see if you can get Virbagen Omega in the 
Netherlands. If you can, and if the price-to-dose isn’t prohibitive, it would 
seem (according to what the literature says) that you would be better off 
giving the tomcat the limited number of doses of Virbagen Omega as opposed to 
keeping him on interferon alpha from here on out. But you (and the new owner) 
must do what feels right and what makes sense. 

If your vet is uncertain about interferon alpha and unfamiliar with Virbagen 
Omega, I would call around to find someone who has more experience. At the 
least, you could consult with them and get a “second opinion”. 

Best regards,

Lance

On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lance,
 
 thanks so much for your reply, very much appreciated. I checked on the 
 internet and found 10 ug at eur 152,00 at a webshop. Is that a price which 
 sounds reasonable to you as I have no clue at all. Talked to my vet this 
 afternoon and he was not that positive about using interferon. Wallie seems 
 to be doing right now he is eating a lot and is feelling much better than 
 when I let him in. The vet prescribed him antibiotics and a prednisone 
 treatment. If necessary will give him this interferom as well,
 
 Waiting for your feedback,
 
 Kind regards,
 Jetty Dijkshoorn
 
 
 
 2014-06-03 18:12 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:
 Hi Jetty,
 
 You might check here for interferon alpha: http://www.roadrunnerpharmacy.com
 
 Road Runner is an American pharmacy that specializes in medicine for animals. 
 I have ordered interferon alpha from them a number of times.
 
 I am surprised that interferon alpha, a human product, would be prohibitively 
 expensive in the Netherlands, as it seems to be widely used and produced. I’m 
 hoping that someone there can get it for you cheaper than it would cost to 
 have it shipped overseas. 
 
 I would seriously consider looking into Virbagen Omega, a feline recombinant 
 interferon. It will be expensive, though it should be somewhat cheaper than 
 it is for Americans (we need it flown overseas, overnight. VO is not given 
 all the time. Usually, the doses are given over several weeks’ time, then the 
 drug is discontinued. 
 
 Virbagen Omega is the only treatment that has been proven to positively 
 affect the course of the disease. All other drugs, including interferon 
 alpha, have not shown any efficacy in scientific trials. See the Retrovirus 
 Guidelines document available here:
 
 http://www.catvets.com/guidelines/practice-guidelines/retrovirus-management-guidelines
 
 Best wishes and hopes for you and your tomcat friend,
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good day to you,
 
  I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he wanted 
 to join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I found him 
 a new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a check up at 
 the vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on feline 
 leukemia and unfortunately this test turned out positive. As he is doing 
 much better now than 2 weeks ago. He gained a  lot of weight and starts 
 playing again I want to try to keep him healthy as long as possible. Looking 
 for medicatons I landed on your very informational website. I think I want 
 to start by giving him interferon alpha but this is very expensive in my 
 country.
 
 I saw that a liquid interferoon should not be that expensive, but the island 
 pharmacy website is no longer in the air. Have you got another company and 
 website where I could buy this medication? If I go for treatment in the 
 Netherlands it will cost me 5 times as much.
 
 Thank you for your advise and keep up the good work.
 
 Jetty Dijkshoorn

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Marsha

Hi Jetty,

Virbagen Omega is recombinant feline interferon, a much better choice 
than human interferon.  Somewhat expensive, I think.  A 5-pack of 10MU 
is approximately 430 Euros from Abbeyvet exporter in the UK.  Here is a 
link to the exporter.  Only a veterinarian can place the order, but you 
can make an account just to look at their catalogue.


https://www.abbeyvet-export.co.uk/

Note:  I have not yet tried Virbagen Omega or this exporter, but am 
planning on it after research I have done.  I am also looking at some 
other possibilities, but this seems to be the best choice, especially 
since Harley is showing signs of mild stomatitis, and I found an article 
written by a veterinary dentist that has used this product (see page 10):


http://www.dentistvet.com/docs/Gingivostomatitis-Veterinary-InfoApr2012.pdf

Marsha

On 6/3/2014 12:12 PM, Jetty Dijkshoorn wrote:


Hi Lance,

thanks so much for your reply, very much appreciated. I checked on the 
internet and found 10 ug at eur 152,00 at a webshop. Is that a price 
which sounds reasonable to you as I have no clue at all. Talked to my 
vet this afternoon and he was not that positive about using   
interferon. Wallie seems to be doing right now he is eating a lot and 
is feelling much better than when I let him in. The vet prescribed him 
antibiotics and a prednisone treatment. If necessary will give him 
this interferom as well,


Waiting for your feedback,

Kind regards,
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Jetty Dijkshoorn
Dear Lance,
Thanks again for all your help. I am considering to give him the Virbagen
Omega. He is only a very tiny guy so the costs would be ok. My vet is not
convinced about the effect of interferon and that in respect to the total
cost, he wanted to try the cheaper way first.  Wally is really doing ok now
but the vet told me that his red blood cel value was only 1/3 of the normal
value. But any way I see a lot of progression in his behaviour and his
looks since the day he came. I think I will wait for this cure to end and
then take a decision on the interferon. One of my nephews is a vet, think I
could try to get it through him. I am a bit scared to take my own decision
on this behind the back of my vet.



2014-06-03 20:56 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:

 You’re welcome. I only wish I could help more.

 30ml of interferon alpha costs me about $45 in the US. That includes
 shipping, I think.

 How is the tomcat’s anemia? Did the vet run new blood work to see if his
 feeling better correlates to a rise in red blood cell values?

 Interferon alpha could be expensive over the long run, just because you
 (or the new owner) would be buying it monthly. If I was in your situation
 (particularly being in Europe), and my cat had presented with anemia, I
 would look into Virbagen Omega instead. This drug is available in France,
 so it seems like it should be available throughout western and central
 Europe.

 Virbagen Omega is made for cats, and according to the literature we have,
 it makes a difference in survival time. Interferon alpha is a human drug,
 and the only evidence we have that it helps is anecdotal, not scientific.
 I’m not saying it doesn’t help. I just lost my FeLV+ girl, Ember, who had
 the virus for a minimum of eight years, and she did very well. I used
 interferon alpha on her. But, Virbagen Omega is not available here, and it
 costs a lot of money to get it sent over, so we used what was available.

 Bottom line: I’m encouraging you to see if you can get Virbagen Omega in
 the Netherlands. If you can, and if the price-to-dose isn’t prohibitive, it
 would seem (according to what the literature says) that you would be better
 off giving the tomcat the limited number of doses of Virbagen Omega as
 opposed to keeping him on interferon alpha from here on out. But you (and
 the new owner) must do what feels right and what makes sense.

 If your vet is uncertain about interferon alpha and unfamiliar with
 Virbagen Omega, I would call around to find someone who has more
 experience. At the least, you could consult with them and get a “second
 opinion”.

 Best regards,

 Lance

 On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lance,

 thanks so much for your reply, very much appreciated. I checked on the
 internet and found 10 ug at eur 152,00 at a webshop. Is that a price which
 sounds reasonable to you as I have no clue at all. Talked to my vet this
 afternoon and he was not that positive about using interferon. Wallie seems
 to be doing right now he is eating a lot and is feelling much better than
 when I let him in. The vet prescribed him antibiotics and a prednisone
 treatment. If necessary will give him this interferom as well,

 Waiting for your feedback,

 Kind regards,
 Jetty Dijkshoorn



 2014-06-03 18:12 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:

 Hi Jetty,

 You might check here for interferon alpha:
 http://www.roadrunnerpharmacy.com

 Road Runner is an American pharmacy that specializes in medicine for
 animals. I have ordered interferon alpha from them a number of times.

 I am surprised that interferon alpha, a human product, would be
 prohibitively expensive in the Netherlands, as it seems to be widely used
 and produced. I’m hoping that someone there can get it for you cheaper than
 it would cost to have it shipped overseas.

 I would seriously consider looking into Virbagen Omega, a feline
 recombinant interferon. It will be expensive, though it should be somewhat
 cheaper than it is for Americans (we need it flown overseas, overnight. VO
 is not given all the time. Usually, the doses are given over several weeks’
 time, then the drug is discontinued.

 Virbagen Omega is the only treatment that has been proven to positively
 affect the course of the disease. All other drugs, including interferon
 alpha, have not shown any efficacy in scientific trials. See the Retrovirus
 Guidelines document available here:


 http://www.catvets.com/guidelines/practice-guidelines/retrovirus-management-guidelines

 Best wishes and hopes for you and your tomcat friend,

 Lance

 On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good day to you,

  I am new to your forum. 2 weeks ago a sweet tomcat decided that he
 wanted to join our group of 6 cats. Since umber 7 seemed a bit too much I
 found him a new owner but before given her this lovely guy. I went for a
 check up at the vet. He saw that he suffered from amnesia and tested him on
 feline

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Alpha,

2014-06-03 Thread Lance
Don’t worry. Your vet would have to order any of these drugs for you, so you 
won’t be the only one involved in the decision. 

Here in America, we still have vets who advocate euthanizing these cats. If I 
had euthanized my Ember when I discovered she was FeLV+, I would have missed 
out on over eight years of time with her, and she did really well for the 
majority of that time. 

I’m not a vet, and without knowing more, I couldn’t give much good advice, but 
having a red blood cell count that’s 1/3 of normal doesn’t seem like a good 
sign. Wally may end up needing a transfusion or Epogen (a red blood cell 
building drug). 

My advice:

1) Watch Wally like a hawk until you can get a better idea about his blood 
count over time.

2) Consider what options are available to you locally. Virbagen Omega is made 
in France by Virbac. It seems like it ought to be more reasonable (at least 
than it is here). I don’t think you would be importing it from the UK, and we 
know scientifically that it does *some* good.

3) Most importantly, talk to a vet who has knowledge of the disease and has 
treated it before. A cat clinic might be a good place to start. If your current 
vet knows about interferon alpha and is unsure about using it, that’s one 
thing. If your current vet is unfamiliar with interferon alpha or treating 
FeLV, that would encourage me to seek out someone with more experience and 
knowledge.

Best wishes for Wally.

Lance

On Jun 3, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Lance,
 Thanks again for all your help. I am considering to give him the Virbagen 
 Omega. He is only a very tiny guy so the costs would be ok. My vet is not 
 convinced about the effect of interferon and that in respect to the total 
 cost, he wanted to try the cheaper way first.  Wally is really doing ok now 
 but the vet told me that his red blood cel value was only 1/3 of the normal 
 value. But any way I see a lot of progression in his behaviour and his looks 
 since the day he came. I think I will wait for this cure to end and then take 
 a decision on the interferon. One of my nephews is a vet, think I could try 
 to get it through him. I am a bit scared to take my own decision on this 
 behind the back of my vet. 
 
 
 
 2014-06-03 20:56 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:
 You’re welcome. I only wish I could help more.
 
 30ml of interferon alpha costs me about $45 in the US. That includes 
 shipping, I think. 
 
 How is the tomcat’s anemia? Did the vet run new blood work to see if his 
 feeling better correlates to a rise in red blood cell values?
 
 Interferon alpha could be expensive over the long run, just because you (or 
 the new owner) would be buying it monthly. If I was in your situation 
 (particularly being in Europe), and my cat had presented with anemia, I would 
 look into Virbagen Omega instead. This drug is available in France, so it 
 seems like it should be available throughout western and central Europe. 
 
 Virbagen Omega is made for cats, and according to the literature we have, it 
 makes a difference in survival time. Interferon alpha is a human drug, and 
 the only evidence we have that it helps is anecdotal, not scientific. I’m not 
 saying it doesn’t help. I just lost my FeLV+ girl, Ember, who had the virus 
 for a minimum of eight years, and she did very well. I used interferon alpha 
 on her. But, Virbagen Omega is not available here, and it costs a lot of 
 money to get it sent over, so we used what was available.
 
 Bottom line: I’m encouraging you to see if you can get Virbagen Omega in the 
 Netherlands. If you can, and if the price-to-dose isn’t prohibitive, it would 
 seem (according to what the literature says) that you would be better off 
 giving the tomcat the limited number of doses of Virbagen Omega as opposed to 
 keeping him on interferon alpha from here on out. But you (and the new owner) 
 must do what feels right and what makes sense. 
 
 If your vet is uncertain about interferon alpha and unfamiliar with Virbagen 
 Omega, I would call around to find someone who has more experience. At the 
 least, you could consult with them and get a “second opinion”. 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jetty Dijkshoorn jdidu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lance,
 
 thanks so much for your reply, very much appreciated. I checked on the 
 internet and found 10 ug at eur 152,00 at a webshop. Is that a price which 
 sounds reasonable to you as I have no clue at all. Talked to my vet this 
 afternoon and he was not that positive about using interferon. Wallie seems 
 to be doing right now he is eating a lot and is feelling much better than 
 when I let him in. The vet prescribed him antibiotics and a prednisone 
 treatment. If necessary will give him this interferom as well,
 
 Waiting for your feedback,
 
 Kind regards,
 Jetty Dijkshoorn
 
 
 
 2014-06-03 18:12 GMT+02:00 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm:
 Hi Jetty,
 
 You might check here for interferon alpha

Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-24 Thread KG BarnCats
Look into polyprenyl immunostimulant (PI) from Sass  Sass.  They have had
good results with dry FIP. Much cheaper and faster to get than interferon
omega.I don't think you use steroids with it, though.

Laurie


On Monday, December 23, 2013,  lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi,

 My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several
years when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with
me. At the time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and
would send it to each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat
now who appears to have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs
pointing there). The only hope of helping that is feline interferon omega
given in combination with steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able
to get it quickly. Does anyone have it who might be willing to sell me a
few doses to get him started while I try to get it? Or to do an exchange
like we used to do, sending me a few doses while I order and then I send it
back?

 Michelle L.
 NJ (used to be MA)
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[Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread lernermichelle

Hi,

My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several years 
when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with me. At the 
time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and would send it to 
each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat now who appears to 
have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs pointing there). The only 
hope of helping that is feline interferon omega given in combination with 
steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able to get it quickly. Does anyone 
have it who might be willing to sell me a few doses to get him started while I 
try to get it? Or to do an exchange like we used to do, sending me a few doses 
while I order and then I send it back? 

Michelle L.
NJ (used to be MA)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread gbl...@aristotle.net
Hey Michelle - I remember you! Wish I could help but beat of luck!

Gloria

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 On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:17 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several years 
 when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with me. At 
 the time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and would send 
 it to each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat now who 
 appears to have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs pointing 
 there). The only hope of helping that is feline interferon omega given in 
 combination with steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able to get it 
 quickly. Does anyone have it who might be willing to sell me a few doses to 
 get him started while I try to get it? Or to do an exchange like we used to 
 do, sending me a few doses while I order and then I send it back?
  
 Michelle L.
 NJ (used to be MA)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread Heather
Hideyo Yamomoto (unsure on last name/spelling) who used to be on this list as 
well as others, might be a good person to ask about this. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:17 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several years 
 when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with me. At 
 the time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and would send 
 it to each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat now who 
 appears to have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs pointing 
 there). The only hope of helping that is feline interferon omega given in 
 combination with steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able to get it 
 quickly. Does anyone have it who might be willing to sell me a few doses to 
 get him started while I try to get it? Or to do an exchange like we used to 
 do, sending me a few doses while I order and then I send it back? 
  
 Michelle L.
 NJ (used to be MA)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread lernermichelle

I know-- she and I exchanged feline interferon several times-- but I don't have 
her contact info anymore. Can anyone email it to me?

thanks,
Michelle


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To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 9:58 pm
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Hideyo Yamomoto (unsure on last name/spelling) who used to be on this list as 
well as others, might be a good person to ask about this. 

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On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:17 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:



Hi,
 
My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several years 
when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with me. At the 
time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and would send it to 
each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat now who appears to 
have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs pointing there). The only 
hope of helping that is feline interferon omega given in combination with 
steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able to get it quickly. Does anyone 
have it who might be willing to sell me a few doses to get him started while I 
try to get it? Or to do an exchange like we used to do, sending me a few doses 
while I order and then I send it back? 
 
Michelle L.
NJ (used to be MA)


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Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

2013-12-23 Thread Catherine Chang
Hi Michelle,
Have you also tried the FIV group? I know some people in that group
regularly buying feline interferon omega from the UK.
Check here: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fiv-healthscience/info
Or contact FIV group's owner, he might have some ides:
http://www.fivtherapy.com/contact1.htm
catherine




On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

 I know-- she and I exchanged feline interferon several times-- but I don't
 have her contact info anymore. Can anyone email it to me?

 thanks,
 Michelle
  -Original Message-
 From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 9:58 pm
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need feline interferon omega very quickly

  Hideyo Yamomoto (unsure on last name/spelling) who used to be on this
 list as well as others, might be a good person to ask about this.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:17 PM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

   Hi,

 My name is Michelle and I used to be a regular on this list for several
 years when I had 6 FeLV+ cats, none of whom, unfortunately, are still with
 me. At the time, several of us were ordering feline interferon omega and
 would send it to each other when needed in an emergency. I have an FIV+ cat
 now who appears to have non-effusive FIP (not definite but many signs
 pointing there). The only hope of helping that is feline interferon omega
 given in combination with steroids, and given quickly. I will not be able
 to get it quickly. Does anyone have it who might be willing to sell me a
 few doses to get him started while I try to get it? Or to do an exchange
 like we used to do, sending me a few doses while I order and then I send it
 back?

 Michelle L.
 NJ (used to be MA)

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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-13 Thread Shelley Theye
Thanks Lance.  I'll look into DMG.

Shelley 

On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Lance wrote:

 LTCI is an American-made product and is *not* an interferon. I’m referring to 
 feline recombinant interferon omega that has the trade name of Virbagen 
 Omega, originally manufactured by Virbac. Glad to hear that LTCI may have 
 helped your cat, Katherine.
 
 Shelley: You might consider supplementing with DMG. Vetri Science makes a 
 liquid and a chewable. The chewable also contains lysine. Ember likes the 
 chewable, but the liquid is easy to give via eyedropper (we used that for 
 many years). I don’t think it has any taste. Ember doesn’t seem to care. 
 Either form is fairly cheap, and certainly less expensive per dose than even 
 the human interferon. Amazon has both for sale.
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Thanks, I'll check out the link and archives.
 
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without 
 looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find 
 out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/.
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  
 feline recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
 When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to 
 be helpful in learning about LTCI: 
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
  It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
 respond to you if you post there.
 
 My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating 
 and was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC 
 count at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in 
 the first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 
 weeks for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to 
 his normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I 
 don't know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to 
 keep trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per 
 injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 
 positive kittens.
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, 
 now I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic 
 right now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley
 
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done 
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega 
 and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little 
 about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for 
 treatment). Their website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown 
 promise, but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline 
 recombinant interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown 
 promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a 
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that 
 does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a 
 month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go 
 through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This 
 allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, 
 which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, 
 though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will 
 do this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In 
 England for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. 
 When I last priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I 
 believe this is for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a 
 year, according to the established protocol. At least with feline 
 recombinant interferon omega, you know you have something that has been 
 proven to work, unlike other drugs I could mention. Will it produce 
 results for a particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe?
 
 If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might 
 still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-13 Thread Shelley Theye
Thank you for the recommendation.  I'll check it out.

Shelley 


On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:13 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:

 Shelley, I have mentioned this before but I give my Pookie Wei Qi 
 recommended by my holistic vet for immune support. I give him (and the other 
 cats) one tea (tiny) pill a day for immune health. It is resonable in cost 
 and there are 200 pills in the bottle, so it lasts a lot. It is an Eastern 
 herb. Just a thought if you want to get some from a holistic vet.
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Shelley Theye wrote:
 
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now 
 I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right now, 
 so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.  Shelley
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done with 
 symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and 
 Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about 
 what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment). 
 Their website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, 
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant 
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a prescription 
 and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does 
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month 
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through 
 an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your 
 vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they 
 need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I 
 don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for 
 you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the 
 drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced 
 this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for 
 something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to 
 the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon 
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike 
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+ 
 cat? Maybe?
 If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might still 
 look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon omega 
 imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be useful to 
 ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, you have 
 that much less work to do to get it here.
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he 
 was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties 
 need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same 
 with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon 
 in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If 
 Pookie is doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great 
 now since he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte 
 T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
 Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official 
 recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more 
 research is needed.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Shelley Theye
Lance,
Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I did 
not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about using it 
as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now I know that 
it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right now, so the only 
thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.  
Shelley 

Shelley Theye
ve...@bellsouth.net



On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:

 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done with 
 symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and Ember 
 was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about what is 
 suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment). Their 
 website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, 
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant interferon 
 omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a prescription 
 and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does 
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month 
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through an 
 FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your vet 
 clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they need, as 
 it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I don’t think 
 it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for you. You then 
 have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the drug and the 
 overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced this, it was 
 ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for something like 15 
 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to the established 
 protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon omega, you know you 
 have something that has been proven to work, unlike other drugs I could 
 mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe? 
 
 If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might still 
 look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon omega 
 imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be useful to 
 ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, you have that 
 much less work to do to get it here.
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he was 
 seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties need 
 to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same with 
 the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon in 
 Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is 
 doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great now since 
 he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte T-Cell 
 Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
 Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official 
 recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more research 
 is needed.
 
 MC
 --
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 Maybe That'll Make The Difference
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Katherine K.
Hi Shelley and Jennifer,

When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be
helpful in learning about LTCI:
http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still
respond to you if you post there.

My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and
was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count
at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the
first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks
for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his
normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't
know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep
trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per
injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4
positive kittens.

Katherine


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now
 I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right
 now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley

 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net



 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:

  I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and
 Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about
 what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment).
 Their website should mention this.
 
  To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1)
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise,
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
  It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
  It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go
 through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This
 allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega,
 which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved,
 though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do
 this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England
 for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last
 priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is
 for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according
 to the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+
 cat? Maybe?
 
  If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might
 still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon
 omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be
 useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road,
 you have that much less work to do to get it here.
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
  I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he was
 seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties need
 to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same with
 the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon in
 Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is
 doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great now since
 he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
  Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte
 T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
  Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
  http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
  not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the
 official recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more
 research is needed.
 
  MC
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  Maybe That'll Make The Difference
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Shelley Theye
Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  feline 
recombinant interferon omega ?
Shelley


On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
 When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be 
 helpful in learning about LTCI: 
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
  It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
 respond to you if you post there. 
 
 My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and 
 was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count at 
 the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the first 
 week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks for a few 
 weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his normal self. 
 He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't know which 
 medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep trying the 
 LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per injection though so 
 it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 positive kittens.
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now I 
 know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right now, so 
 the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley
 
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
  I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done with 
  symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and 
  Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about 
  what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment). 
  Their website should mention this.
 
  To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
  interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, 
  but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant 
  interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
  It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a prescription 
  and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does 
  drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month 
  and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
  It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through 
  an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your 
  vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they 
  need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I 
  don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for 
  you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the 
  drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced 
  this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for 
  something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to 
  the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon 
  omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike 
  other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+ 
  cat? Maybe?
 
  If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might still 
  look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon omega 
  imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be useful to 
  ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, you have 
  that much less work to do to get it here.
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
  I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
  injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he 
  was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties 
  need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same 
  with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon 
  in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If 
  Pookie is doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great 
  now since he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
  Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte 
  T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
  Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
  http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
  not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Katherine K.
No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without
looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find
out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as
  feline recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley


 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

  Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
  When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to
 be helpful in learning about LTCI:
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
 It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still
 respond to you if you post there.
 
  My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating
 and was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC
 count at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in
 the first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2
 weeks for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to
 his normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I
 don't know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to
 keep trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per
 injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4
 positive kittens.
 
  Katherine
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
  Lance,
  Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.
  I did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet
 about using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get
 interferon, now I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not
 symptomatic right now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
  Shelley
 
  Shelley Theye
  ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
   I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and
 Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about
 what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment).
 Their website should mention this.
  
   To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1)
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise,
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
  
   It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
  
   It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go
 through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This
 allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega,
 which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved,
 though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do
 this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England
 for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last
 priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is
 for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according
 to the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+
 cat? Maybe?
  
   If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might
 still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon
 omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be
 useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road,
 you have that much less work to do to get it here.
  
   On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
  
   I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he was
 seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties need
 to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same with
 the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon in
 Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is
 doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great now since
 he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
  
  
   On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
  
   Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte
 T-Cell

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Shelley Theye
Thanks, I'll check out the link and archives.

Shelley


On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

 No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without 
 looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find 
 out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/.
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  feline 
 recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
  Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
  When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be 
  helpful in learning about LTCI: 
  http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
   It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
  respond to you if you post there.
 
  My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and 
  was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count 
  at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the 
  first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks 
  for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his 
  normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't 
  know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep 
  trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per 
  injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 
  positive kittens.
 
  Katherine
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Lance,
  Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
  did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
  using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now 
  I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right 
  now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
  Shelley
 
  Shelley Theye
  ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
  On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
   I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done 
   with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega 
   and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little 
   about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for 
   treatment). Their website should mention this.
  
   To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
   interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown 
   promise, but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline 
   recombinant interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown 
   promise).
  
   It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a 
   prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that 
   does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a 
   month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
  
   It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go 
   through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This 
   allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, 
   which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, 
   though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will 
   do this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In 
   England for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. 
   When I last priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I 
   believe this is for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a 
   year, according to the established protocol. At least with feline 
   recombinant interferon omega, you know you have something that has been 
   proven to work, unlike other drugs I could mention. Will it produce 
   results for a particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe?
  
   If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might 
   still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon 
   omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be 
   useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, 
   you have that much less work to do to get it here.
  
   On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
  
   I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
   injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he 
   was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ 
   kitties need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is 
   this the same with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who 
   administers interferon in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't 
   broken don't fix it...If Pookie is doing well, I don't want

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Lance
LTCI is an American-made product and is *not* an interferon. I’m referring to 
feline recombinant interferon omega that has the trade name of Virbagen Omega, 
originally manufactured by Virbac. Glad to hear that LTCI may have helped your 
cat, Katherine.

Shelley: You might consider supplementing with DMG. Vetri Science makes a 
liquid and a chewable. The chewable also contains lysine. Ember likes the 
chewable, but the liquid is easy to give via eyedropper (we used that for many 
years). I don’t think it has any taste. Ember doesn’t seem to care. Either form 
is fairly cheap, and certainly less expensive per dose than even the human 
interferon. Amazon has both for sale.

On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks, I'll check out the link and archives.
 
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without 
 looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find 
 out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/.
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  
 feline recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
 When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be 
 helpful in learning about LTCI: 
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
  It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
 respond to you if you post there.
 
 My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and 
 was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count 
 at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the 
 first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks 
 for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his 
 normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't 
 know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep 
 trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per 
 injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 
 positive kittens.
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now 
 I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right 
 now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley
 
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done 
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega 
 and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little 
 about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for 
 treatment). Their website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, 
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant 
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a 
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that 
 does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a 
 month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through 
 an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your 
 vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they 
 need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I 
 don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for 
 you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the 
 drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced 
 this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for 
 something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to 
 the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon 
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike 
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular 
 FeLV+ cat? Maybe?
 
 If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might 
 still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon 
 omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be 
 useful to ask them to look

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Jennifer Lewis
Thanks!

Jen L
On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Shelley Theye wrote:

 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  feline 
 recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
 When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to be 
 helpful in learning about LTCI: 
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
  It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
 respond to you if you post there. 
 
 My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating and 
 was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC count at 
 the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in the first 
 week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 weeks for a 
 few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to his normal 
 self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I don't know 
 which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to keep trying 
 the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per injection though 
 so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 positive kittens.
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, now 
 I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic right now, 
 so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley
 
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done with 
 symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and 
 Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about 
 what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment). 
 Their website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, 
 but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant 
 interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a prescription 
 and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does 
 drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month 
 and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through 
 an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your 
 vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they 
 need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I 
 don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for 
 you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the 
 drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced 
 this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for 
 something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to 
 the established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon 
 omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, unlike 
 other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a particular FeLV+ 
 cat? Maybe?
 
 If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might still 
 look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon omega 
 imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be useful to 
 ask them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, you have 
 that much less work to do to get it here.
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he 
 was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties 
 need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same 
 with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon 
 in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If 
 Pookie is doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great 
 now since he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte 
 T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
 Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see

Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread trustinhim13
Shelley, I have mentioned this before but I give my Pookie Wei Qi 
recommended by my holistic vet for immune support. I give him (and the 
other cats) one tea (tiny) pill a day for immune health. It is resonable 
in cost and there are 200 pills in the bottle, so it lasts a lot. It is 
an Eastern herb. Just a thought if you want to get some from a holistic 
vet.



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Shelley Theye wrote:


Lance,
Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 
interferons.  I did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked 
Leo's new vet about using it as a preventative, and  since she could 
easily get interferon, now I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, 
he is not symptomatic right now, so the only thing I give him 
occasionally is Lysine.  Shelley

Shelley Theye
ve...@bellsouth.net



On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:

I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was 
done with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had 
interferon omega and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try 
it. I know very little about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic 
vs. asymptomatic for treatment). Their website should mention this.


To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 
1) interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown 
promise, but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline 
recombinant interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have 
shown promise).


It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a 
prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy 
that does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s 
~$40 for a month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off 
protocol.


It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go 
through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This 
allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon 
omega, which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork 
involved, though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, 
compassionate vet will do this for you. You then have to pay (through 
your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the drug and the overnight 
shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced this, it was 
~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I believe this is for something 
like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a year, according to the 
established protocol. At least with feline recombinant interferon 
omega, you know you have something that has been proven to work, 
unlike other drugs I could mention. Will it produce results for a 
particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe?
If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might 
still look into what it would take to get feline recombinant 
interferon omega imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and 
it might be useful to ask them to look into it. If you decide to do 
it down the road, you have that much less work to do to get it here.


On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:

I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when 
he was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the 
FELV+ kitties need to be symptom free before they administer this? 
Also is this the same with the interferon shots? And does anyone 
know who administers interferon in Wisconsin? My inclination is if 
it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is doing well, I don't want 
to mess with him. And he is doing great now since he had 
acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like 
Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?


Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn



On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:


http://goo.gl/uT6Evb

not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the 
official recognition. tho it does end as most research articles 
do, more research is needed.


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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-12 Thread Margo


I second the recommendation for DMG. One of my cats loves the stuff, the others 
don't mind it. Worth a shot...

Margo



-Original Message-
From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: Nov 12, 2013 11:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

LTCI is an American-made product and is *not* an interferon. I’m referring to 
feline recombinant interferon omega that has the trade name of Virbagen Omega, 
originally manufactured by Virbac. Glad to hear that LTCI may have helped your 
cat, Katherine.

Shelley: You might consider supplementing with DMG. Vetri Science makes a 
liquid and a chewable. The chewable also contains lysine. Ember likes the 
chewable, but the liquid is easy to give via eyedropper (we used that for many 
years). I don’t think it has any taste. Ember doesn’t seem to care. Either 
form is fairly cheap, and certainly less expensive per dose than even the 
human interferon. Amazon has both for sale.

On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks, I'll check out the link and archives.
 
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 No, I don't think so but honestly can't remember the difference without 
 looking it all up again. Try searching the listserv archives. You can find 
 out more about LTCI at http://tcyte.com/.
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks Katherine.  So LTCI is the same thing Lance is referring to as  
 feline recombinant interferon omega ?
 Shelley
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
 
 Hi Shelley and Jennifer,
 
 When my 10 yr old cat was first diagnosed in July, I found this forum to 
 be helpful in learning about LTCI: 
 http://910pets.com/forum/topics/feline-leukemia?xg_source=activityid=2127871.
  It's not very active now, but it's a good resource and folks will still 
 respond to you if you post there.
 
 My cat was running a fever, had gone from 13 lbs to 11.5, wasn't eating 
 and was lethargic when he was first diagnosed. I don't remember his RBC 
 count at the moment. We ordered LTCI for him and gave him 3 injections in 
 the first week, then went to once a week for 2 weeks, then once every 2 
 weeks for a few weeks, and now he gets it once a month. He has returned to 
 his normal self. He was also on a low dose of prednisone for a month. I 
 don't know which medicine helped pull him out of the woods but I'm glad to 
 keep trying the LTCI if it keeps him healthy. It costs me about $50 per 
 injection though so it's not something I'm financially able to try on my 4 
 positive kittens.
 
 Katherine
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Lance,
 Thanks so much for explaining the difference between the 2 interferons.  I 
 did not realize that there were 2 types.  I had asked Leo's new vet about 
 using it as a preventative, and  since she could easily get interferon, 
 now I know that it was  the human one.  Anyway, he is not symptomatic 
 right now, so the only thing I give him occasionally is Lysine.
 Shelley
 
 Shelley Theye
 ve...@bellsouth.net
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done 
 with symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega 
 and Ember was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little 
 about what is suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for 
 treatment). Their website should mention this.
 
 To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
 interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown 
 promise, but studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline 
 recombinant interferon omega (anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown 
 promise).
 
 It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a 
 prescription and have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that 
 does drugs/compounding for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a 
 month and a half supply using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.
 
 It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go 
 through an FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This 
 allows your vet clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, 
 which they need, as it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, 
 though I don’t think it’s horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will 
 do this for you. You then have to pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In 
 England for the drug and the overnight shipping—overnight from England. 
 When I last priced this, it was ~$1300 for the drug and the shipping. I 
 believe this is for something like 15 doses, but that’s all you give in a 
 year, according to the established protocol. At least with feline 
 recombinant interferon omega, you know you have something that has been 
 proven to work, unlike other drugs I could mention

[Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-11 Thread MaryChristine
http://goo.gl/uT6Evb

not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official
recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more research
is needed.

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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-11 Thread Jennifer Lewis
Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte T-Cell 
Immunomodulator (LTCI)?

Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn



On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official 
 recognition. tho it does end as most research articles do, more research is 
 needed.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-11 Thread Lance
I’m pretty sure that several people on this list have tried LTCI on their cats. 
I don’t recall much being reported, but there are times I don’t read the list 
closely. I’m somewhat skeptical that it does much, but it’s more because the 
company seems to mainly concern itself with marketing. I’d love to see clinical 
testing managed by a competent third party (I always think of Cornell here).

Anecdotally, a local FIV+ owner was pleased with LTCI treatment for her cat, as 
its sneezing was reduced or went away after treatment. I don’t know anything 
else about the case. If blood values improved, that might be interesting, but 
just knocking down one symptom (as far as I know) doesn’t strike me as all that 
miraculous. I had my vet look into getting it for my FeLV+, and while she found 
the presented information interesting, she also thought things seemed a little 
shady and unscientific. 

Feline recombinant interferon omega is the only drug we know of that has been 
scientifically shown to provide improvement in FeLV+ cats. This is according to 
the research paper on managing retroviruses released by the AAFP in 2008. Note: 
I have no stock in Virbac or anyone else who handles it. In fact, the companies 
handling feline recombinant interferon omega are also on my list for not 
working harder to get the drug approved in the States. It’s not solely the 
FDA’s fault that it’s not available domestically. As it’s not approved here, 
one has to deal with red tape and expensive, overnight cold shipping.

Lance

On Nov 11, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:

 Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte T-Cell 
 Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
 Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official 
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 needed.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-11 Thread trustinhim13
I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he 
was seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ 
kitties need to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is 
this the same with the interferon shots? And does anyone know who 
administers interferon in Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't 
broken don't fix it...If Pookie is doing well, I don't want to mess with 
him. And he is doing great now since he had acupuncture. Seems so hit or 
miss with all this??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte 
T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI)?


Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn



On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:


http://goo.gl/uT6Evb

not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the 
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more research is needed.


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Re: [Felvtalk] research on feline interferon alpha

2013-11-11 Thread Lance
I think the de Mari feline recombinant interferon omega study was done with 
symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I think. If I already had interferon omega and Ember 
was symptomatic, I would definitely try it. I know very little about what is 
suggested with LTCI (symptomatic vs. asymptomatic for treatment). Their website 
should mention this.

To clarify, there are two types of interferon given for FeLV+ cats: 1) 
interferon alpha (a product for humans that has anecdotally shown promise, but 
studies have failed to verify this) and 2) feline recombinant interferon omega 
(anecdotal evidence AND studies have shown promise).

It’s easy to get #1 from pretty much any vet. They can write a prescription and 
have it filled by Roadrunner or another pharmacy that does drugs/compounding 
for pets. It’s also cheap. I think it’s ~$40 for a month and a half supply 
using the 5 days on/5 days off protocol.

It’s somewhat difficult and expensive to get #2.Your vet has to go through an 
FDA program that used to be called Compassionate Use. This allows your vet 
clearance to import feline recombinant interferon omega, which they need, as 
it’s not sold in the US. There’s paperwork involved, though I don’t think it’s 
horrible. A dedicated, compassionate vet will do this for you. You then have to 
pay (through your vet) Abbeyvet In England for the drug and the overnight 
shipping—overnight from England. When I last priced this, it was ~$1300 for the 
drug and the shipping. I believe this is for something like 15 doses, but 
that’s all you give in a year, according to the established protocol. At least 
with feline recombinant interferon omega, you know you have something that has 
been proven to work, unlike other drugs I could mention. Will it produce 
results for a particular FeLV+ cat? Maybe? 

If Pookie is doing well, then I agree: don’t rock the boat. You might still 
look into what it would take to get feline recombinant interferon omega 
imported. Your vet might never have heard of it, and it might be useful to ask 
them to look into it. If you decide to do it down the road, you have that much 
less work to do to get it here.

On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:48 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:

 I took Pookie to the one of four vets in Wisconsin who has done LTCI 
 injections, but Pookie was sick, running a temp, and not eating when he was 
 seen. So he wasn't a candidate for the injection. Do the FELV+ kitties need 
 to be symptom free before they administer this? Also is this the same with 
 the interferon shots? And does anyone know who administers interferon in 
 Wisconsin? My inclination is if it isn't broken don't fix it...If Pookie is 
 doing well, I don't want to mess with him. And he is doing great now since he 
 had acupuncture. Seems so hit or miss with all this??
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried any other the other meds out there, like Lymphocyte T-Cell 
 Immunomodulator (LTCI)?
 
 Jennifer L, Munchkin and Brynn
 
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
 
 http://goo.gl/uT6Evb
 
 not new to most of us, but always good to see things get the official 
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 is needed.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Where to buy Interferon Alpha

2013-06-13 Thread I-Chun C. C. Chang
I got mine from the Roadrunner. I did also asked around local pharmacies,
and in fact most human compounding pharmacies can dilute interferon alpha
2b for you as long as you tell them the strength you want.

For the interferon alpha 2a (the Referon-A) it has been discontinued in the
States, but you can buy it overseas at pretty low price. I earlier
contacted the producer's offices in Japan and Taiwan, and both of them can
ship the medications into the States (you need prescription though). The
only issue is that the medication needs to be cool packed where mail
flights could take more than 2 days to arrive.

However, some animal international adoption programs from these two
countries regularly have volunteers bringing dogs to the States for
adoption through direct passenger flights (takes no more than 24 hours).
You could try to get in contact with them and their volunteers can help you
bring in the meds as long as you can persuade them it is for animal-itarian
reasons.

But given all these troubles, I simply went for interferon alpha 2b.

Catherine




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 I get Ember's interferon from Roadrunner, so they can.

 On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:34 PM, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Others that compound I've used in the past include Diamondback,
 Roadrunner... not sure they all do Interferon.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Where to buy Interferon Alpha

2013-06-12 Thread Margo






Hi Kasia,

I thought this was going to be simple. I would tell you to have the Vetprescribe a single dose of Roferon A, you could get it at any pharmacy, and it's very easy (but tedious) to dilute. I did it years ago, and had enough for an army. 

 Unfortunately, it seems Roferon A has been discontinued in the US. I don;t know if anything else can be substituted. I haven't looked into it far, but I will.

 So, I suggest getting it from a compounding pharmacy. I use RoadRunner.

 http://www.roadrunnerpharmacy.com/receipt.aspx

 I get Interferon alpha 2-B, 120 units per ml, 20 ml. It is about $40. Gribble and Mako each get .25 ml (1/4 ml/cc) once a day for 7 days, thenoff for 7 days. So, I use .25x2x14., or 7 mls per month. it's good for about 2.5 months. So it's more like $8 per month per cat.

That is NOT the standard strength. Standard strength is 30 units per ml. I don't know if the cost would differ if you go that way. I find 1/4ml to be much easier to dose (it's supposed to be directed at the tonsils, or under the tongue, depending on what protocolyou choose to follow), and theboys don't mind much.

 I'd call RoadRunner (or your compounding pharmacy of choice) and talk to them. The RR staff is very helpful, and have helped mealter dosing on several things. Your Vet will need to call it in, and I think has the option of adding a surcharge, which is why they won't quote over the phone (speculation, but that's how it usually works).

HTH,

Margo



 -Original Message- From: kasia mosko <kasia...@yahoo.com>Sent: Jun 11, 2013 10:40 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: [Felvtalk] Where to buy Interferon Alpha 

Hi,

I ma wondering if anyone knows where can I purchase Interferon Alpha? My vet said he could get if for me but it would cost 40 dollars a month for each cat. He also said he would be able to dilute it if I could obtain it in its full strength, which would save us a lot of money.

Thanks so much,
Kasia




From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fmTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:14 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols
Of those on the list, I've only used inteferon alpha and Dimethylglycine (DMG). Interferon is fairly affordable, while DMG is cheap and available in a number of formats (liquid, powder, "treat"). I can't vouch for whether or not they work. We have no studies that I know of for DMG use on FeLV+ cats, and interferon alpha studies show possible help, but nothing that says it will definitely improve anything.ImmunoRegulin - I believe I spoke to Dr. Thomas (an article about her use of IR is listed on that page) about ImmunoRegulin. If I remember right, she hasn't used the drug for cats in a long time, but I don't think this was due to any problem with it. She still said it had done some good.Acemannan - Ember's first vet to treat her for FeLV had tried using this drug on cats a long time ago, and he didn't see any use in it. Lymphocyte T-Cell Immune Modulator - This is a relatively new product, and my understanding is that adequate studies have not been conducted. My vet wasn't impressed. A cat in town is getting it for something related to sneezing, and the owner is happy with the cat's progress. I don't know anything about the case; just that my vet talked to another vet here about it. It shouldn't hurt, and I'm considering it. Staph Protein A - I know nothing about this one and don't know that I've ever heard of anyone using it.Baypamun - http://www.felineleukemia.org/baypamun.html You can search the list archives for this, but I'm not sure it's even available. That page on the site hasn't been updated in quite awhile. How is Jack doing today?LanceOn Jun 9, 2013, at 11:24 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:  Hello All,  I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The link is  http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.shtml   Best,  Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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[Felvtalk] Where to buy Interferon Alpha

2013-06-11 Thread kasia mosko
Hi,

I ma wondering if anyone knows where can I purchase Interferon Alpha? My vet 
said he could get if for me but it would cost 40 dollars a month for each cat. 
He also said he would be able to dilute it if I could obtain it in its full 
strength, which would save us a lot of money.

Thanks so much,
Kasia


From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Treatment Protocols
 

Of those on the list, I've only used inteferon alpha and Dimethylglycine (DMG). 
Interferon is fairly affordable, while DMG is cheap and available in a number 
of formats (liquid, powder, treat). I can't vouch for whether or not they 
work. We have no studies that I know of for DMG use on FeLV+ cats, and 
interferon alpha studies show possible help, but nothing that says it will 
definitely improve anything.

ImmunoRegulin - I believe I spoke to Dr. Thomas (an article about her use of IR 
is listed on that page) about ImmunoRegulin. If I remember right, she hasn't 
used the drug for cats in a long time, but I don't think this was due to any 
problem with it. She still said it had done some good.

Acemannan - Ember's first vet to treat her for FeLV had tried using this drug 
on cats a long time ago, and he didn't see any use in it. 

Lymphocyte T-Cell Immune Modulator - This is a relatively new product, and my 
understanding is that adequate studies have not been conducted. My vet wasn't 
impressed. A cat in town is getting it for something related to sneezing, and 
the owner is happy with the cat's progress. I don't know anything about the 
case; just that my vet talked to another vet here about it. It shouldn't hurt, 
and I'm considering it. 

Staph Protein A - I know nothing about this one and don't know that I've ever 
heard of anyone using it.

Baypamun - http://www.felineleukemia.org/baypamun.html You can search the 
list archives for this, but I'm not sure it's even available. That page on the 
site hasn't been updated in quite awhile. 

How is Jack doing today?

Lance

On Jun 9, 2013, at 11:24 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 Hello All,
 
 I've came across this website with treatments for Felv, and was wondering if 
 anyone ever tried anything (I know some members tried Interferon Alpha)? The 
 link is 
 http://www.felineleukemia.org/treatmnt.shtml 
 
 Best, 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Terri Brown
Goodnight, sweet Meowko...

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
=^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: I-Chun C. C. Chang mailto:changic...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 10:43 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available


  Dear friends,

  Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko 
is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US 
eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my 
family, our life would never be the same without her.

  I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, 
Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That 
was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime 
demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, 
until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know anything 
of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I was little 
as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my friend's 
friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips about how 
to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my husband.

  Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and 
from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter 
trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, riding 
for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of anything. She was 
the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I always believe herself 
was a cat geographer as well. We have always been saying that she probably 
taught geography in feline schools when her humans were in sleep.

  We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She 
will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs old 
littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.

  Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she 
had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was deeply 
loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. I hope I 
could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed her so 
terribly.

  Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of 
interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration date, 
June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, you’re 
welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling distance.  Or 
I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you pay for the 
shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)

  Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this 
listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today that 
Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win. With the 
knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is still have a very 
good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please never give up hope. It 
is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko and from the members here.


  Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for us 
had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)


  with my best,
  Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko

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Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Margo



Dear Catherine, 
 
 I'm so sorry. I know that there are no words that will bring any relief, but I wish I could help. Meowko will never be gone as long as she remains in your heart, and I see that you will never lack for happy memories. That she passed easily is a blessing. She chose you as her family and you gave her a wonderful life. There is no greater gift.

She has just gone on ahead. Not far, and you may still sense her sometimes.

I wish you peace, Meowko has found hers.

 
Lend Me a Kitten
I will lend to you a kitten, God said.For you to love her while she lives, and mourn herwhen she's dead.Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.But will you, 'till I call her back, take care of her for me? 

She'll bring her charms to gladden you and, should her stay be briefYou'll always haveyour memories, as solace for your grief.I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return.But there are lessons taught below I want thisgirl to learn.

We've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.And from the folk that crowds life's land,she haschosen you.Now will you give her all your love, nor think the labor vain?Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?

I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'For all the joys thisFurChild brings, the risk of grief we'll run.We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. 

But should you call her back much sooner than we planned,We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,In memory of the one we loved,please help us while we grieve.
And when our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,Please send yet another needing soul for us to love,for life. 

Author Unknown 


My thoughts are with you.

Margo


-Original Message- From: "I-Chun C. C. Chang " <changic...@gmail.com>Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available 

Dear friends,Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my husband.Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans were in sleep.We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed her so terribly.Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling distance. Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today that Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win. With the knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is still have a very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please never give up hope. It is the most important lesso

Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Margo


-Original Message- From: "I-Chun C. C. Chang " <changic...@gmail.com>Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available 

Dear friends,Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my husband.Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans were in sleep.We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed her so terribly.Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling distance. Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today that Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win. With the knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is still have a very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please never give up hope. It is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko and from the members here.Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for us had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)
with my best,Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko

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Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Dear Catherine,
I'm so sorry for your loss, I know how difficult and heartbreaking such a loss 
is,


Sent from my iPhone.

On May 28, 2013, at 7:21, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Dear Catherine,

I'm so sorry. I know that there are no words that will 
 bring any relief, but I wish I could help. Meowko will never be gone as long 
 as she remains in your heart, and I see that you will never lack for happy 
 memories. That she passed easily is a blessing. She chose you as her family 
 and you gave her a wonderful life. There is no greater gift.
  
 She has just gone on ahead. Not far, and you may still sense her sometimes.
  
 I wish you peace, Meowko has found hers.
  
 Lend Me a Kitten
 I will lend to you a kitten, God said.
 For you to love her while she lives, and mourn her when she's dead.
 Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
 But will you, 'till I call her back, take care of her for me?
  
 She'll bring her charms to gladden you and, should her stay be brief
 You'll always have your memories, as solace for your grief.
 I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return.
 But there are lessons taught below I want this girl to learn.
  
 We've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.
 And from the folk that crowds life's land, she has chosen you.
 Now will you give her all your love, nor think the labor vain?
 Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?
  
 I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'
 For all the joys this FurChild brings, the risk of grief we'll run.
 We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.
 And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay.
  
 But should you call her back much sooner than we planned,
 We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
 If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,
 In memory of  the one we loved, please help us while we grieve.
 And when our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
 Please send yet another needing soul for us to love, for life.
  
 Author Unknown
  
  
 My thoughts are with you.
  
 Margo
  
  
 -Original Message- 
 From: I-Chun C. C. Chang  
 Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available 
 
 Dear friends,
 
 Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko 
 is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US 
 eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my 
 family, our life would never be the same without her.
 
 I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, 
 Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That 
 was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime 
 demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, 
 until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know 
 anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I 
 was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my 
 friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips 
 about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my 
 husband.
 
 Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and 
 from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter 
 trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, 
 riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of 
 anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I 
 always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been 
 saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans 
 were in sleep.
 
 We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She 
 will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs 
 old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.
 
 Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she 
 had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was 
 deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. 
 I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed 
 her so terribly.
 
 Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of 
 interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration 
 date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, 
 you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling 
 distance.  Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you 
 pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)
 
 Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All

Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Michele Fougeres
Dear Catherine,
I'm flooded with tears after reading your story with Meowko, what a lucky cat 
she was to have you and your hubby in her life. She brought you and your 
husband together, and has inspired, I think, all of us in this group to keep 
loving our babies and fight with and for them to overcome this terrible disease.
I wish you all the best, someday we will all meet again on the other side of 
the rainbow bridge.
Lots of love,
Michele (from Ecuador) 3

CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: ava...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 07:35:03 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

Dear Catherine,I'm so sorry for your loss, I know how difficult and 
heartbreaking such a loss is,

Sent from my iPhone.
On May 28, 2013, at 7:21, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:








Dear Catherine, 



   I'm so sorry. I know that there are no words that will 
bring any relief, but I wish I could help. Meowko will never be gone as long as 
she remains in your heart, and I see that you will never lack for happy 
memories. That she passed easily is a blessing. She chose you as her family and 
you gave her a wonderful life. There is no greater gift.

 

She has just gone on ahead. Not far, and you may still sense her sometimes.

 

I wish you peace, Meowko has found hers.

 

 

Lend Me a Kitten
I will lend to you a kitten, God said.
For you to love her while she lives, and mourn her when she's dead.
Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
But will you, 'till I call her back, take care of her for me? 

 

She'll bring her charms to gladden you and, should her stay be brief
You'll always have your memories, as solace for your grief.
I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return.
But there are lessons taught below I want this girl to learn.

 

We've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.
And from the folk that crowds life's land, she has chosen you.
Now will you give her all your love, nor think the labor vain?
Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?

 

I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'
For all the joys this FurChild brings, the risk of grief we'll run.
We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.
And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay. 

 

But should you call her back much sooner than we planned,
We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,
In memory of  the one we loved, please help us while we grieve.


And when our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
Please send yet another needing soul for us to love, for life. 

 

Author Unknown 

 

 

My thoughts are with you.

 

Margo

 

 

-Original Message- 
From: I-Chun C. C. Chang  
Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available 




Dear friends,

Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko 
is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US 
eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my 
family, our life would never be the same without her.

I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, 
Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That 
was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime 
demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, 
until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know anything 
of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I was little 
as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my friend's 
friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips about how 
to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my husband.

Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and from 
Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter trips/research 
trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, riding for week-long 
road trip, and had always been calm in front of anything. She was the perfect 
cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I always believe herself was a cat 
geographer as well. We have always been saying that she probably taught 
geography in feline schools when her humans were in sleep.

We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She will 
always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs old 
littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.

Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she had 
a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was deeply 
loved by many people who knew her, from many

Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Dear Catherine,

I'm so sorry to hear of Meowko's passing.  She sounded like a wonderful
kitty.  During her short time on earth, she was loved and loved you and
your family in return.  Please take comfort in knowing what a great life
you provided for her and the loving companionship you and Meowko shared.

Sincerely,
-Amanda


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Michele Fougeres 
atomicbetti...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Dear Catherine,

 I'm flooded with tears after reading your story with Meowko, what a lucky
 cat she was to have you and your hubby in her life. She brought you and
 your husband together, and has inspired, I think, all of us in this group
 to keep loving our babies and fight with and for them to overcome this
 terrible disease.

 I wish you all the best, someday we will all meet again on the other side
 of the rainbow bridge.

 Lots of love,

 Michele (from Ecuador) 3

 --
 CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 From: ava...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 07:35:03 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available


 Dear Catherine,
 I'm so sorry for your loss, I know how difficult and heartbreaking such a
 loss is,


 Sent from my iPhone.

 On May 28, 2013, at 7:21, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:


  Dear Catherine,

I'm so sorry. I know that there are no words that
 will bring any relief, but I wish I could help. Meowko will never be gone
 as long as she remains in your heart, and I see that you will never lack
 for happy memories. That she passed easily is a blessing. She chose you as
 her family and you gave her a wonderful life. There is no greater gift.

 She has just gone on ahead. Not far, and you may still sense her sometimes.

 I wish you peace, Meowko has found hers.


 *Lend Me a Kitten* I will lend to you a kitten, God said.
 For you to love her while she lives, and mourn her when she's dead.
 Maybe for twelve or fourteen years, or maybe two or three.
 But will you, 'till I call her back, take care of her for me?

 She'll bring her charms to gladden you and, should her stay be brief
 You'll always have your memories, as solace for your grief.
 I cannot promise she will stay, since all from earth return.
 But there are lessons taught below I want this girl to learn.

 We've looked the whole world over in search of teachers true.
 And from the folk that crowds life's land, she has chosen you.
 Now will you give her all your love, nor think the labor vain?
 Nor hate me when I come to take my kitten home again?

 I fancied that I heard them say 'Dear Lord Thy Will Be Done'
 For all the joys this FurChild brings, the risk of grief we'll run.
 We'll shelter him with tenderness, we'll love him while we may.
 And for the happiness we've known, forever grateful stay.

 But should you call her back much sooner than we planned,
 We'll brave the bitter grief that comes, and try to understand.
 If, by our love we've managed your wishes to achieve,
 In memory of  the one we loved, please help us while we grieve.

 And when our cherished kitten departs this world of strife,
 Please send yet another needing soul for us to love, for life.
 **
 *Author Unknown*


 My thoughts are with you.

 Margo


 -Original Message-
 From: I-Chun C. C. Chang 
 Sent: May 27, 2013 10:43 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available


  Dear friends,

 Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks.
 Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around
 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for
 whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.

 I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei
 city, Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted
 me. That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during
 dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came
 every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I
 didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid
 of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I
 turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats
 for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my
 boyfriend, later my husband.

 Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and
 from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter
 trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes,
 riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of
 anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I
 always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been
 saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans
 were

Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Lance
Catherine,

I'm so very sorry to hear that Meowko crossed the bridge. Thank you for taking 
the time to share your sweet story of being adopted by Meowko and the time she 
had with you and your husband. She will forever be in your hearts, and that's a 
beautiful thing. Take care. 

Lance

On May 27, 2013, at 9:43 PM, I-Chun C. C. Chang changic...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends,
 
 Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. Meowko 
 is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 8:45pm US 
 eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for whole my 
 family, our life would never be the same without her.
 
 I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, 
 Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That 
 was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime 
 demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, 
 until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know 
 anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when I 
 was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of my 
 friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking tips 
 about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my 
 husband.
 
 Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and 
 from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter 
 trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, 
 riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of 
 anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I 
 always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been 
 saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans 
 were in sleep.
 
 We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She 
 will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs 
 old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.
 
 Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she 
 had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was 
 deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. 
 I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed 
 her so terribly.
 
 Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of 
 interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration 
 date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, 
 you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling 
 distance.  Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you 
 pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)
 
 Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this 
 listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today that 
 Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win. With the 
 knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is still have a 
 very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please never give up 
 hope. It is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko and from the 
 members here.
 
 Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for us 
 had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)
 
 with my best,
 Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko
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Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-28 Thread Marcia
Catherine
I am so sorry for your loss. It's heartbreaking I know. Your story is beautiful 
and Im sure your love for Meowko will always be with her, wherever her spirit 
may travel. 

Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:


On May 28, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Catherine,
 
 I'm so very sorry to hear that Meowko crossed the bridge. Thank you for 
 taking the time to share your sweet story of being adopted by Meowko and the 
 time she had with you and your husband. She will forever be in your hearts, 
 and that's a beautiful thing. Take care. 
 
 Lance
 
 On May 27, 2013, at 9:43 PM, I-Chun C. C. Chang changic...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear friends,
 
 Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks. 
 Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around 
 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for 
 whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.
 
 I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city, 
 Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me. That 
 was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during dinnertime 
 demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came every night, 
 until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I didn't know 
 anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid of cats when 
 I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I turned to one of 
 my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats for years, asking 
 tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my boyfriend, later my 
 husband.
 
 Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and 
 from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter 
 trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes, 
 riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of 
 anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I 
 always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been 
 saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans 
 were in sleep.
 
 We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She 
 will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs 
 old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.
 
 Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she 
 had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was 
 deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the world. 
 I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have already missed 
 her so terribly.
 
 Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of 
 interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration 
 date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut, 
 you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling 
 distance.  Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you 
 pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)
 
 Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this 
 listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today that 
 Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win. With the 
 knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is still have a 
 very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please never give up 
 hope. It is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko and from the 
 members here.
 
 Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for us 
 had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)
 
 with my best,
 Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko
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[Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-27 Thread I-Chun C. C. Chang
Dear friends,

Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks.
Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around
8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for
whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.

I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei city,
Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me.
That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during
dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came
every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I
didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid
of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I
turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats
for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my
boyfriend, later my husband.

Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and
from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter
trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes,
riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of
anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I
always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been
saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her humans
were in sleep.

We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She
will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7 yrs
old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.

Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she
had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was
deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the
world. I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have
already missed her so terribly.

Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of
interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration
date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut,
you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling
distance.  Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you
pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)

Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this
listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today
that Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win.
With the knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is
still have a very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please
never give up hope. It is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko
and from the members here.

Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for us
had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)

with my best,
Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko
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Re: [Felvtalk] Meowko passed, and interferon alpha 2b available

2013-05-27 Thread katskat1
What a beautiful story!  Well told and obviously from the heart.  Meowko.
 What a sweet name.  She is running free over the rainbow bridge.  There is
an American Indian legend that says the stars are windows in heaven that
our loved ones look through to keep an eye on us.  Meowko has her own
window now and is watching you, waiting for the time you will join her.

Kat
---

On Monday, May 27, 2013, Beth wrote:

 So sorry for your loss of your sweet baby. Amazing how she brought you 
 your husband together. What a wonderful story!.

 Hugs,
  Beth

 I-Chun C. C. Chang  changic...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:

 Dear friends,
 
 Thank you very much for the great support over the last several weeks.
 Meowko is now an angel. She crossed the rainbow bridge on May 26th, around
 8:45pm US eastern daylight saving time. Her passing was peaceful, but for
 whole my family, our life would never be the same without her.
 
 I can't stop thinking about the day I first met Meowko back in Taipei
 city,
 Taiwan. It was not me who adopted Mewoko; it was Meowko who adopted me.
 That was also a beautiful May day. She jumped into my window during
 dinnertime demanding the fish entree in my bento. From that day, she came
 every night, until one day she decided to stay and never left again. I
 didn't know anything of cats back to that time. I was actually very afraid
 of cats when I was little as in many Asian legends cats are evil. So I
 turned to one of my friend's friend who I knew he took care of street cats
 for years, asking tips about how to be a cat parent. This friend became my
 boyfriend, later my husband.
 
 Meowko traveled with us all the time, from Taiwan to the US 7yrs ago, and
 from Minnesota to Connecticut last year, not to mention those shorter
 trips/research trips over these years. She was good at taking airplanes,
 riding for week-long road trip, and had always been calm in front of
 anything. She was the perfect cat a geographer can ever dream for, and I
 always believe herself was a cat geographer as well. We have always been
 saying that she probably taught geography in feline schools when her
 humans
 were in sleep.
 
 We are going to arrange a witness of Meowko's cremation on Wednesday. She
 will always in our hearts...She is survived by her two humans and her 7
 yrs
 old littermate, Jaja, who also jumped into our window several years later.
 
 Although Meowko had been sick over these years as she was getting old, she
 had a very good quality of life until the day before yesterday. She was
 deeply loved by many people who knew her, from many places around the
 world. I hope I could have had a little more time with her... I have
 already missed her so terribly.
 
 Along with some ckd medical supplies, Meowko left about 20 days' supply of
 interferon alpha 2b oral liquid 100 IU/ml strength available (expiration
 date, June 20th, 2013). If anyone needs it, we are in eastern Connecticut,
 you’re welcome to pick it up or we can drop off in reasonable traveling
 distance.  Or I can mail it to you, the only thing I ask would be that you
 pay for the shipping as it requires cool pack overnight shipping.)
 
 Please give your babies extra hugs for us. All the furry friends on this
 listserv are strong fighters as Meowko. I am sorry to report back today
 that Meowko didn't win her battle, but it doesn't mean others can't win.
 With the knowledge and support from members on this listserv, there is
 still have a very good chance. Please try as much as you can, and please
 never give up hope. It is the most important lesson I learned from Meowko
 and from the members here.
 
 Thank you all very much again. (And particularily, Margo, your words for
 us
 had encouraged us to go through the tough times...)
 
 with my best,
 Catherine and our little sweet angel, Meowko
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-15 Thread dlgegg
That is the way it was with Nitnoy.  We never really had the time to decide on 
treatment before she was gone.  I keep thinking there is something I missed and 
should have seen.


 molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 
years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. Most 
cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less than a 
year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have heard of 
some that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as a kitten 
from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 18. I kind of 
wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I had one that died 
at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer she was fine then one 
day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I could even discuss what 
to do she died. At the time I did not know she had FeLV because she tested 
negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on X-ray because of all the 
fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid was coming from. Sure enough 
the vet found this large tumor and it had actually punctured her heart and the 
fluid in her chest was all blood. Then the vet got curious and did a combo test 
and found the FeLV. My guess is that most likely the tumor would have 
eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so you probably did the best thing for 
Prancer. I didn't know they could treat those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case 
it was too late when we found it but I'm glad to know that in case something 
comes up in the future. Maureen Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - 
Reply message - From: Terri Brown  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon 
Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm I used interferon with Salome'. I started her 
on it when she was about 3 years old, and I gave it to her as often as I could 
get a hold of it. Salome' lived to be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver 
failure. Hope that helps! T =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie 
the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message - From: Lisa Conner To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: 
[Felvtalk] Interferon Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this 
politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on Interferon and the length of 
years a Felv + cat has lived. Ok- so, I joined when my 9 + year old boy, 
Prancer became very sick..literally overnight. He breathing was extremely 
labored and I rushed him to the Emergency Vet. They said he was critical , and 
didn’t think he was going to make it. May be best to put him to sleep since he 
was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale. That night they 
extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs. Thank goodness, because that saved 
his life. In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet 
thought it was his heart. He was right. The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor 
at the base of his heart. The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, 
however, he said it might be a day or week, depending on how much fluid built 
up in his lung area. Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him 
suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with 
build up of fluid in the lungs). So, my vet believes that Interferon might have 
helped Prancer over the years, since in all his years in practice, they have 
not seen a cat like Prancer, great health for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +. Has 
anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the typical 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-15 Thread Maureen Olvey

Yeah, I wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice 
them.  It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next 
day it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the 
trip made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to 
the back to see what was going on.  By the time they did the x-ray and got back 
to me she was getting weak.  I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
talk with the vet and she died while we were talking.  I had no prep time at 
all and it was awful.  Here one day and gone the next.  Her name was Two Face.  
She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
other half black.  What a sweetheart.  Wish I could have had her for a lot 
longer.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 That is the way it was with Nitnoy.  We never really had the time to decide 
 on treatment before she was gone.  I keep thinking there is something I 
 missed and should have seen.
 
 
  molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 
 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. 
 Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less 
 than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have 
 heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as 
 a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 
 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I 
 had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer 
 she was fine then one day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I 
 could even discuss what to do she died. At the time I did not know she had 
 FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on 
 X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid 
 was coming from. Sure enough the vet found this large tumor and it had 
 actually punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was all blood. Then 
 the vet got curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV. My guess is that 
 most likely the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so 
 you probably did the best thing for Prancer. I didn't know they could treat 
 those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case it was too late when we found it but 
 I'm glad to know that in case something comes up in the future. Maureen Sent 
 from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Terri Brown 
  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm I used 
 interferon with Salome'. I started her on it when she was about 3 years old, 
 and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of it. Salome' lived to 
 be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure. Hope that helps! T 
 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
 Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
 =^..^= - Original Message - From: Lisa Conner To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: 
 [Felvtalk] Interferon Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this 
 politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on Interferon and the length of 
 years a Felv + cat has lived. Ok- so, I joined when my 9 + year old boy, 
 Prancer became very sick..literally overnight. He breathing was extremely 
 labored and I rushed him to the Emergency Vet. They said he was critical , 
 and didn’t think he was going to make it. May be best to put him to sleep 
 since he was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale. That night 
 they extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs. Thank goodness, because that 
 saved his life. In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our 
 vet thought it was his heart. He was right. The ultrasound showed a huge mass 
 tumor at the base of his heart. The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer 
 had, however, he said it might be a day or week, depending on how much fluid 
 built up in his lung area. Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not 
 have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart 
 failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs). So, my vet believes that 
 Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, since in all his years 
 in practice, they have not seen a cat like Prancer, great health for 9 ½ 
 years, but be Felv +. Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their 
 cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-13 Thread molveywda
Lisa,

You were lucky because 9 1/2 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if 
he had it as a kitten.  Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 
years.  Many live less than a year.  If you were giving him interferon then 
maybe that was it.  I have heard of some that lived about that long but not too 
often if they got it as a kitten from their mom.  One vet told me about one 
that lived until it was 18.  I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause 
that's really odd.

I had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor.  Like Prancer 
she was fine then one day her breathing became labored.  Before the vet and I 
could even discuss what to do she died.  At the time I did not know she had 
FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten.  They didn't see the tumor on 
X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid was 
coming from.  Sure enough the vet found this large tumor and it had actually 
punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was all blood.  Then the vet got 
curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV.  My guess is that most likely 
the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so you probably 
did the best thing for Prancer.

I didn't know they could treat those kinds of tumors.  In my cat's case it was 
too late when we found it but I'm glad to know that in case something comes up 
in the future.

Maureen


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From: Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon
Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm
I used interferon with Salome'.  I started her on it when she was 
about 3 years old, and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of 
it.

Salome' lived to be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure.

Hope that helps!

T

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Samantha, 
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- Original Message - 
From: Lisa Conner 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 
PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon




Hi 
All,

I think 
everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has 
lived.

Ok-  so,  I joined 
when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very sick..literally overnight.  
He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him to the Emergency 
Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he was going to 
make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and needed 
oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups of 
fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  
In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it 
was his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass 
tumor at the base of his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time 
Prancer had, however, he said it might be a day or week,  depending on 
how much fluid built up in his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was 
back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of 
congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs).  


So, my vet 
believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, since in 
all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, great 
health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.  

Has anyone 
in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the typical avg span 
life for Felv+ cats?  

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[Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Lisa Conner


Hi All,

I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.

 Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him 
to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn't think he was 
going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In the 
morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his 
heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of 
his heart.   The vet wasn't sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said it 
might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid built up in his lung area. 
 Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my 
Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in 
the lungs).

So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.

Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Thank you for trying to bring everyone back on topic. I'm very new to this 
forum but would love to hear from anyone who can talk more about interferon.

Maryam

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On Oct 12, 2012, at 13:48, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:

  
  
 Hi All,
  
 I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
 questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.
  
  Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
 sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed 
 him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he 
 was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
 needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
 of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In 
 the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was 
 his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the 
 base of his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, however, 
 he said it might be a day or week,   depending on how much fluid built up in 
 his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him 
 suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure 
 (with build up of fluid in the lungs). 
  
 So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
 since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
 great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +. 
  
 Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
 typical avg span life for Felv+ cats? 
  
 Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

Hi Just as FYI - what your kitty, Prancer had was mediastinal lymphoma - and it 
is actually one of the most tretable cancers of all - it's common among Felk 
positive kitties - steroid of will almost immediately get rid of fluid in chest 
cavity - and kitties with mediastinal lymphoma has a very good chance of 
recovery with chemo therapy even with Felk kitties - if you join lymphoma 
support group, they can tell you all about sucess stories. There is feline 
omega itnerferon which you can import AbbyVet in England which is probably the 
best choice as alpha (human) interferon, cats will eventually develop antibody 
to the interferon -Have you considered using LTCI? Hideyo
 CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: ava...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:55:47 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thank you for trying to bring everyone back on topic. I'm very new to this 
forum but would love to hear from anyone who can talk more about interferon.
Maryam
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On Oct 12, 2012, at 13:48, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:









 
 
Hi All,
 
I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.
 
 Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him 
to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical
 ,  and didn’t think he was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep 
since he was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night 
they extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that 
saved his life.  In the
 morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his 
heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of 
his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said it 
might be a day or week, 
 depending on how much fluid built up in his lung area.  Within 4 days, the 
fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the 
suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs). 

 
So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
great health  for 9 ½ years, but be
 Felv +.  
 
Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats? 

 
Thanks!



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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Terri Brown
I used interferon with Salome'.  I started her on it when she was about 3 years 
old, and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of it.

Salome' lived to be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure.

Hope that helps!

T

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Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon


   

   

  Hi All,

   

  I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.

   

   Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed him 
to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn't think he was 
going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In the 
morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his 
heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of 
his heart.   The vet wasn't sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said it 
might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid built up in his lung area. 
 Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I lost my 
Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of fluid in 
the lungs).  

   

  So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.  

   

  Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?  

   

  Thanks!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Christy Buchin
My cat Gray Kitty was diagnosed with FeLV and severe anemia. Thank you for a 
specialist we found, our family vet, Interferon, LTCI, steroids, two blood 
transfusions, splenectomy, etc., he tests negative  is almost off steroids. UC 
Davis now has asked to use him in their study  the specialist is using his 
study for veterinarian studies. His story is a very long one. I just supplied 
the short version.

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On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:

  
  
 Hi All,
  
 I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
 questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.
  
  Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
 sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed 
 him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he 
 was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
 needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
 of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In 
 the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was 
 his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the 
 base of his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, however, 
 he said it might be a day or week,   depending on how much fluid built up in 
 his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him 
 suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure 
 (with build up of fluid in the lungs). 
  
 So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
 since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
 great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +. 
  
 Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
 typical avg span life for Felv+ cats? 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
Saw it, but so far I have been lucky and had no experience with it.


 Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote: 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
 questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.
 
  Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
 sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed 
 him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn't think he 
 was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
 needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
 of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In 
 the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was 
 his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the 
 base of his heart.   The vet wasn't sure how much time Prancer had, however, 
 he said it might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid built up in 
 his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him 
 suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure 
 (with build up of fluid in the lungs).
 
 So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
 since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
 great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.
 
 Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
 typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?
 
 Thanks!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Christiane Biagi
I’m not so sure how good the chances are.  My Romeo died because of this
type of lymphoma.  For him, (semi-feral), treatment would have been a
nightmare but oncologist was not that optimistic about his chances….

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Hi Just as FYI - what your kitty, Prancer had was mediastinal lymphoma - and
it is actually one of the most tretable cancers of all - it's common among
Felk positive kitties - steroid of will almost immediately get rid of fluid
in chest cavity - and kitties with mediastinal lymphoma has a very good
chance of recovery with chemo therapy even with Felk kitties - if you join
lymphoma support group, they can tell you all about sucess stories.
 
There is feline omega itnerferon which you can import AbbyVet in England
which is probably the best choice as alpha (human) interferon, cats will
eventually develop antibody to the interferon -
Have you considered using LTCI?
 
Hideyo
 

  _  

CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: ava...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:55:47 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

Thank you for trying to bring everyone back on topic. I'm very new to this
forum but would love to hear from anyone who can talk more about interferon.

 

Maryam

 

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On Oct 12, 2012, at 13:48, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:

 

 

Hi All,

 

I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.

 

 Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed
him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he
was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+
and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½
cups of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.
In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it
was his heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at
the base of his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had,
however, he said it might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid
built up in his lung area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could
not have him suffer as I lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive
heart failure (with build up of fluid in the lungs).  

 

So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the
years, since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like
Prancer, great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.  

 

Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?  

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2012-10-12 Thread Beth
Wow! That's wonderful!

 
Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Christy Buchin cstet...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 

My cat Gray Kitty was diagnosed with FeLV and severe anemia. Thank you for a 
specialist we found, our family vet, Interferon, LTCI, steroids, two blood 
transfusions, splenectomy, etc., he tests negative  is almost off steroids. UC 
Davis now has asked to use him in their study  the specialist is using his 
study for veterinarian studies. His story is a very long one. I just supplied 
the short version.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Lisa Conner lisa.con...@syniverse.com wrote:


 
 
 
Hi All,
 
I think everyone was so hung up with this politcal debate,  no one saw my 2 
questions on Interferon and the length of years a Felv + cat has lived.
 
 Ok-  so,  I joined when my 9 + year old boy, Prancer became very 
sick..literally overnight.  He breathing was extremely labored and I rushed 
him to the Emergency Vet.  They said he was critical ,  and didn’t think he 
was going to make it.  May be best to put him to sleep since he was Felv+ and 
needed oxygen and and his gums were pale.  That night they extracted 3 ½ cups 
of fluid from his lungs.  Thank goodness, because that saved his life.  In the 
morning we transferred him to our regular vet and our vet thought it was his 
heart.  He was right.  The ultrasound showed a huge mass tumor at the base of 
his heart.   The vet wasn’t sure how much time Prancer had, however, he said 
it might be a day or week,  depending on how much fluid built up in his lung 
area.  Within 4 days, the fluid was back and I could not have him suffer as I 
lost my Dad to the the suffering of congestive heart failure (with build up of 
fluid in the lungs).  
 
So, my vet believes that Interferon might have helped Prancer over the years, 
since in all his years in practice,  they have not seen a cat like Prancer, 
great health  for 9 ½ years, but be Felv +.  
 
Has anyone in this group used Interferon with their cats and what is the 
typical avg span life for Felv+ cats?  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] interferon strength and source

2012-02-20 Thread KG BarnCats
Hi,
I have rescued several cats that are FELV or FIV+.  My vet is willing to
prescribe interferon   but she never had anyone use it before and she
doesn't doesn't know what strength to prescribe?  Please let me know a good
place to order it from, too.  I need the largest size bottle, I guess,
since I have multiple pos kitties.

Is the interferon ready to use or do I have to dilute it?  If so where can
I fond out how to do that?

What is the recommended dose?  Is it weight dependent?

I already feed home made raw supplemented with platinum performance.

Thanks!!
Laurie


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 Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:09 PM

 Subject: [Felvtalk] When to start treatment?



 I was just wondering when the best time to start treatment for FeLV is?
While the cat is still healthy or best to wait until he/she is visibly
sick? Also, which of the treatments mentioned on the site would you
recommend? I am leaning towards Interferon, just because there seems to be
more anecdotal evidence around for that - thoughts? Are your cats on
multi-vitimins or anything to boost/support the immune system?



 Thanks so much,

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Re: [Felvtalk] interferon strength and source

2012-02-20 Thread Beth
My vet got it frozen. Amazing your vet isn't researching this for you. Makes me 
wonder about vets...
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Re: [Felvtalk] interferon strength and source

2012-02-20 Thread dlgegg
They are stuck in a rut.  My vet tries to keep up , and when I bring something 
to his attenton, he follows up on it.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 My vet got it frozen. Amazing your vet isn't researching this for you. Makes 
 me wonder about vets...
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[Felvtalk] interferon alpha injected?

2011-10-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
One of the vets here told someone with an FELV cat, that she could use  
interferon alpha as an injection.  He didn't mention low dose ORAL  
interferon alpha.


It's been my understanding that the interferon was absorbed in the  
back of the throat.


Has anyone used interferon alpha as an injection rather than orally?

Thanks,

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] interferon alpha injected?

2011-10-09 Thread gary

Hi Gloria,

I would be very interested in knowing what dosage that vet uses for an 
injection.  Interferon comes in little vial with the lowest dose in a vial 
being one million units and is usually 3 million units.  These vials are 
meant to be one injection for a human, but the oral dose for cats is only 30 
units, I can't imagine how you would draw up an appropriate dose for a cat 
without doing the same dilutions that are done for oral treatments.


Gary

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Subject: [Felvtalk] interferon alpha injected?

One of the vets here told someone with an FELV cat, that she could use 
interferon alpha as an injection.  He didn't mention low dose ORAL 
interferon alpha.


It's been my understanding that the interferon was absorbed in the  back 
of the throat.


Has anyone used interferon alpha as an injection rather than orally?

Thanks,

Gloria




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[Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Esther Jorda
Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the
vet is not 100% sure.

She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).

About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low
dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

-- 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Natalie
Leukemia or FeLV?
I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we had
no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
fever

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although the
vet is not 100% sure.

She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).

About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at low
dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

-- 

Esther
= ^..^ =
adopta a
Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Lynda Wilson

I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise



Leukemia or FeLV?
I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we 
had

no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
fever

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although 
the

vet is not 100% sure.

She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).

About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at 
low

dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

--

Esther
= ^..^ =
adopta a
Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Natalie
It does, but there's also leukemia (more like the human leukemia).  Our cat
was NOT FeLV+, but had leukemia.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
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From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise


 Leukemia or FeLV?
 I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we 
 had
 no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
 fever

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

 Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although 
 the
 vet is not 100% sure.

 She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
 work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
 Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).

 About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at 
 low
 dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

 I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

 -- 

 Esther
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 adopta a

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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Pam Norman
I had a wonderful cat years ago who was not FeLeuk+, but died from 
lymphocytic leukemia.


On 6/14/2011 8:05 AM, Natalie wrote:

It does, but there's also leukemia (more like the human leukemia).  Our cat
was NOT FeLV+, but had leukemia.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
- Original Message -
From: Natalieat...@optonline.net
To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise



Leukemia or FeLV?
I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we
had
no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
fever

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although
the
vet is not 100% sure.

She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).

About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at
low
dose... dayly for at least 3 months.

I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??

--

Esther
= ^..^ =
adopta a


Graciahttp://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there 
really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone marrow, 
which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a short term.
What was the lab work look like?  Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any chance - 
you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and sometimes 
elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia - 
The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis - 
 
Hideyo
 
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
 I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
 - Original Message - 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
 
  Leukemia or FeLV?
  I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we 
  had
  no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
  fever
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
  Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although 
  the
  vet is not 100% sure.
 
  She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
  work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
  Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).
 
  About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at 
  low
  dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
 
  I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
 
  -- 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Esther Jorda
Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this
case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I
had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about
it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
high gamma but normal albumina in blood work .  A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia
is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low
dose  omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i
mean feline herpesvirus.

Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
Well, any idea will be very usefull
And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
El 14/06/2011 21:30, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió:

 I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there
really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
 it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
short term.
 What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
 The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -

 Hideyo

 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

 I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
 - Original Message -
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise


  Leukemia or FeLV?
  I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we

  had
  no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
  fever
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
  Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
although
  the
  vet is not 100% sure.
 
  She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
Blood
  work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
  Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).
 
  About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at

  low
  dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
 
  I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
 
  --
 
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  = ^..^ =
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  Gracia
http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

What country are you in?
 
I also rescue, I lost so many cats to dry FIP in the past - how is her eye? - 
is there any uevitis in either of her eye?
Lysine may also help if she has chronic URI.
 
Hideyo
 
 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:53:00 +0200
 From: estherjo...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
 Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this
 case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I
 had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about
 it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
 high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia
 is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low
 dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i
 mean feline herpesvirus.
 
 Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
 lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
 Well, any idea will be very usefull
 And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
 El 14/06/2011 21:30, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió:
 
  I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there
 really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
  it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
 marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
 short term.
  What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
 chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
 sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
  The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -
 
  Hideyo
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
  I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
  - Original Message -
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
 
   Leukemia or FeLV?
   I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we
 
   had
   no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
   fever
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
  
   Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
 although
   the
   vet is not 100% sure.
  
   She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
 Blood
   work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
   Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).
  
   About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at
 
   low
   dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
  
   I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
  
   --
  
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   = ^..^ =
   adopta a
   Gracia
 http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

2011-06-14 Thread Esther Jorda
I am in Barcelona,Spain. Xana do not have uveitis, but one of her eyes has
an old injury. She has been on L-Lysine for last two years
El 14/06/2011 22:10, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com escribió:

 What country are you in?

 I also rescue, I lost so many cats to dry FIP in the past - how is her
eye? - is there any uevitis in either of her eye?
 Lysine may also help if she has chronic URI.

 Hideyo

 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:53:00 +0200
 From: estherjo...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

 Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in
this
 case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it.
I
 had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried
about
 it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
 high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The
anemia
 is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest
low
 dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu,
i
 mean feline herpesvirus.

 Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
 lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
 Well, any idea will be very usefull
 And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
 El 14/06/2011 21:30, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com
escribió:
 
  I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past -
there
 really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
  it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
 marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
 short term.
  What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
 chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
 sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
  The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -
 
  Hideyo
 
  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
  I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
  - Original Message -
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
 
 
   Leukemia or FeLV?
   I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly -
we

   had
   no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a
low-grade
   fever
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther
Jorda
   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
  
   Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
 although
   the
   vet is not 100% sure.
  
   She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
 Blood
   work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly
increased.
   Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative,  1/10).
  
   About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally,
at

   low
   dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
  
   I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
  
   --
  
   Esther
   = ^..^ =
   adopta a
   Gracia
 http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
   0Gracia
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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon - darn Andy!!

2010-12-16 Thread Alice Flowers
Poor Andy!! He can be a little tongue in cheek at times, but believe me-he has 
been there with the most compassion and kind words when we were struggling to 
keep our sweet babies alive. He loves his kitties as much, if not more than 
most 
I know-which probably helped him to be the best people dad ever! We are all on 
the same journey-some people get really lucky and their cats remain healthy for 
ages-I lost Rosie's 4 brothers before they reached a year old-they were on 
Interferon 2x a day, no lapses. Murphy, who we just lost the end of October 
after a heroic struggle with anemia, a rebound with Epogen, then diagnosed with 
Lymphoma, another anemia setback which did not respond to increasing the 
Epogen. 
We had Rosie and Murphy on LTCI (over a year) and Interferon. He was 2 1/2 and 
had been found in the same feral colony our litter of positive kittens came 
from, a friendly throw away. Andy was there in our corner, always kind and 
caring, offering support. This is the same fella that threw the name Pirate 
into the name hat (on my facebook page) when I got the one eyed kitten! LOL If 
the kitten would of had a black and white spotted face, maybe..but the name 
Miso won out-my 1/2 Asian heritage and his miso coloring. Anyway-SacTown boy is 
a good-un and I'll vouch for him.  Alice Flowers-Clark
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[Felvtalk] Question about Interferon

2010-12-10 Thread brenda_osbourne

Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your FeLV cats and 
I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well. Nobody has 
mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer patients 
and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it is not well 
tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued with many serious 
side effects and in many cases the side effects are much worse then the 
symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if the cats being 
treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so low in cats that the 
side effects aren't a problem. 
 
Thanks,
Brenda
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about Interferon

2010-12-10 Thread Sharon Fazio
Hi Brenda,

At this time my kitten is tolerating the interferon.  It is my understanding
from my vet that some cats do have side effects with the  interferon. When
we put Kelsea on the interferon it was the right thing to do, she was very
sick kitten. I have to say I am very glad I did.  I'm not sure if I mention
in pass emails that Kelsea is on the interferon for 7 days then off for the
next 7 days, she only get 1 cc at night.

Let me know what you decide to do.  My thoughts are with you and Eden.

Sharon

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:59 AM, brenda_osbou...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Many of you have said that you are using interferon to treat your FeLV cats
 and I'm trying to decide if we should start Eden on this as well. Nobody has
 mentioned any side effects from the treatment but I work with cancer
 patients and I've seen many patients treated with interferon and it is not
 well tolerated at all. In fact it is a treatment that is plagued with many
 serious side effects and in many cases the side effects are much worse then
 the symptoms of the patient's actual disease. So I'm wondering if the cats
 being treated are experiencing side effects or if the dose is so low in cats
 that the side effects aren't a problem.

 Thanks,
 Brenda


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Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

2010-12-10 Thread brenda_osbourne

Thanks. I can do without the sarcasm. I'm just trying to figure out what's best 
for my girl. Eden has a very sensitive system and if there are side effects of 
any drug then no doubt she's going to have them. And no I don't consider still 
being alive as being a side effect and again, I can do without the sarcasm 
when I'm trying to make some very difficult decisions during a very stressful 
time. I work in the medical field so I'm well aware of what drugs can do to a 
body and I'm also aware of the great benefit they can offer. I like to know as 
much as I can before making any decisions when dealing with what has the 
potential to be a very toxic drug. 

I thank everyone else who has shared their stories and experiences.
 
Brenda
 
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 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:05:00 +
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 
 
 Aggie has had interferon every day of her life since I've had her (for 6 and 
 a half years) and has had no noticeable side effects. But--she is still alive 
 and happy, so I suppose you could consider that a side-effect. Might also be 
 chalked up to good luck, but I'm sure the Interferon hasn't hurt her. 
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