Re: [Finale] Bernoulli and airplane wings
At 03:29 PM 2/10/2005, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: Actually, that can't be the case, though everybody thinks it is. If Bernoulli's law were responsible for lift in aircraft, airplanes wouldn't be able to fly upside-down--and they can. I'm confused by this remark -- Bernoulli's law deals with the flow of air over an air-foil and the difference in presssure on the under side of the wing and the top of the wing. When a plane flies upside down there is still an upper side and a lower side for the air to work against. Well designed wings (as in aerobatic planes) work equally well no matter which side is up. Absolutely wrong. Flying upside down pushes the wing towards the ground. The pilot has to overcome this problem by adjusting the back ailerons (I am sure that's not their name) and engine speed. Don't quit your day job ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finaletips site - new design
Good work. Works perfectly. At 2/18/2005 12:18 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: Richard Yates wrote: This page: http://www.finaletips.nu/perhapsmissed.php ends in the middle of a sentence. No vertical scroll bar appears on the window. (Windows XP Home; Internet Explorer 6.0.2) Thanks, this should be fixed now! Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Internet Explorer
At 06:26 PM 2/19/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: Don't forget to run Microsoft Anti-Spyware to clear out all the crap IE allowed on her system in the first place. I installed it and ran it yesterday. No problems. I guess I run a clean W2K IE6 system . . . Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Browsers
Here is a test to see how up-to-date your browser is. Go to http://maps.google.com and browse a few maps. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] IExplorer
For those of you skeptics that suggested that IE wouldn't be upgraded until LongHorn. http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=60403301 Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes
At 3/10/2005 10:36 AM, d. collins wrote: Of course, your point about What do you do when your 30 days are up? remains. Indeed. Does uninstall/reinstall work? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes
At 3/10/2005 11:17 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: What we are talking about here is emergency migration in the event of MM's demise. In that case, it would be acceptable to have a spare computer that you could reinstall the OS and/or reformat the drive so as to get the additional 30 days. Oh, perfect reason to buy VMWare. You can create as many additional machines as you want, on your current machine . . . Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes
At 3/10/2005 12:06 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Noone will ever guarantee you that software x will run on a new machine in x years. Absolutely, but Microsoft has been far ahead of Apple in that regards. I still run simple MSDOS3 (I don't remember the date, maybe 1985?) software on my WinXP system. I also run Alpha4 (Win3 version), a fairly good database product, on Win2K. I also run FinaleV3 on both Win2K and WinXP. Does FinaleV3 run on any current MacOS? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes
At 3/10/2005 12:08 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: The problem is that as computers change, your non-authenticated version of Finale eventually will no longer work. For Mac users this is effectively already the case. For Windows users the day is coming. If it isn't 64-bit Windows, it will be Longhorn. If it isn't Longhorn, it will be some future post-Longhorn version. If it isn't those, it will be some driver change, or some midi or audio interface change. Does the 16-bit WinFin 2.x version still run on Windows XP? Can you even install it on your current computer? (It was distributed on diskettes that must have been sitting on a shelf for at least a decade. Do they still work, even if you have a drive that will read them?) Aha. Good idea. I know that V3 works. I have the V2 disks. I will try an install and send a report. The only problem with V3 is the long file name issue. You have to be able to interpret the C:\progra~1\finale~1\ mozart~1.mus filenames. Most importantly: Playback still works. That is a huge hardware compatibility issue that MS dealt with. The fact is, the originally planned changes for Longhorn could possibly have caused a substantial percentage of software obsolescence as compared with that MacOS X caused for MacOS Classic users. I have to agree. But that is from preliminary reports. MS has never done that in the past. So which happens first? Does MM vanish or does your next computer no longer run your old version? One or the other (or both) is going to happen. There is no escape, and authentication is merely one additional risk factor. A migration path is essential. And expect not to be able to edit your files after 10-15 years in any case, at least not without signficant rework. Actually, you just save your old computers. I have an Apple][e in the attic. I pulled it out the other day to print out my house building costs that I had saved in an Apple database. I have a MacSE OS6 stored away. I haven't used it in the last year. I also have an old computer running Win98 just to be able to scan images on. My $98 scanner with some kind of fake parallel SCSI ports doesn't work on Win2K. So I just keep the old computer around to scan paper docs ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes
At 3/10/2005 03:24 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Phil Daley schrieb: Does FinaleV3 run on any current MacOS? I haven't tried it, but I am pretty sure it will run just fine under Classic. MIDI won't work, but that probably doesn't work under XP either, does it? I am not sure what that means. Is MIDI playback through the sound card? Or input through an external keyboard? The real problem would be to get it installed, since it came on Floppies, and no Mac these days has a floppy drive. Of course, they are not needed ;-) Just like BillG 640KB is enough for everybody. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT spyware
At 3/23/2005 02:07 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: So, if this is not too involved a subject, how do you find and get rid of spyware on your computer (Mac, OS 10), and then how do you distinguish between spyware you don't want, and cookies that identify you on sites where you want auto log ins etc. The cookie part must be the same as on Windows. Open the cookie. It will have the http site right in it. Hopefully, you can recognize the good ones from the unknown ones. I always delete all cookies at least once a day. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT spyware
At 3/23/2005 02:20 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Chuck Israels / 05.3.23 / 02:07 PM wrote: So, if this is not too involved a subject, how do you find and get rid of spyware on your computer (Mac, OS 10), There is no known spyware to Mac, and it will stay that way, I'd think. It will stay that way as long as Mac has a minuscule % of the market space. Virus writers target dominant systems. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT spyware
At 3/23/2005 02:50 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Phil Daley / 05.3.23 / 02:30 PM wrote: It will stay that way as long as Mac has a minuscule % of the market space. I am sorry. It might be my English problem, but I don't understand your point of this post. Virus writers only write viruses so they will be noticed. Since Apple has such a small marketshare of the computer market, virus writers ignore them. Actually, the first virus I ever had was on a Mac, on System 4(5?) I don't remember. But, because Macs recognized floppy disk insertion and mounted them to the desktop, it was possible to infect a Mac by merely inserting a floppy disk. That has never been true of a windows system. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Music Folders
At 3/23/2005 03:21 PM, John Howell wrote: At 3:07 PM -0500 3/23/05, Darcy James Argue wrote: It is for me, which is why I bothered posting my question the first place. If I didn't think it was a big deal, I would have just bought the Leblanc folders, wouldn't I? Diff'rent strokes. I was on the road through the entire decade of the '60s and we were perfectly happy to use free music store folders and replace them when they wore out. But perhaps my corollary point wasn't clear. Obviously someone manufactures these folders, and they can probably be tracked down and you could order them unprinted, but I doubt that a manufacturer would be willing to ship in lots of fewer than a thousand, which is kind of overkill for your purposes. And the retailers are ALL going to be using them, even if they lose money on them, for advertising purposes. I probably shouldn't say anything since I haven't been following the list for the past month. These are the music store supplied free folders we are talking about that have the store's name on them? We never had to replace them when they wore out. They gave us a huge stock of new ones every year. And I don't think they got much mileage out of them. The store was in Portland, Maine and the school was 100 miles away in central NH. I always told the kids they could write on them and then keep them at the end of the year. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ot; the launching pad
At 4/12/2005 08:01 AM, Richard Yates wrote: http://www.poopreport.com/Stories/Content/peace.html ROTFL Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] ot; the launching pad
At 4/12/2005 01:15 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: But I will not apologize for quoting Brahms on the subject of spirituality and inspiration when asked - I just should have not chosen one inflammatory line. But perhaps David's initial expectorating on the word spiritual and his subsequent devaluing the vocabulary on the list was, also, just a bit out of line? You appear to have a problem with differentiating between a personal attack, which did not happen, with an attack on what you said, which was appropriate. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] launching pad/full of S---
At 4/12/2005 02:19 PM, Bob Florence wrote: My intention was to learn how some of you get from point A (inspiration) to point B (nuts and bolts}. The one answer I really liked came from John Howell. He takes a shower. so do I. For me that's the best place I can go to get started. I am also very clean. :-D My favorite time to work is in the morning. I find my brain is the most receptive. Once I begin, I let the music lead me by the nose. I believe it was Christopher who suggested a book by Goldstein. I don't remember the first name. It was a book on jazz composers. I get my inspirations at 2 times. Driving home from work after a day of frustration, it will all of a sudden come to me (the ol' lightbulb flashes on) of what I had overlooked. The other time is about 2 or 3 AM when I am trying to get back to sleep and I have this flash of insight. What I should do is have a music pad and pencil at the bedstand, because, by morning, I have forgotten what it was ;-) If I got paid for my inspiration, I probably would have that pad there. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes
At 4/15/2005 11:46 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, this isn't a howl of outrage, but I find the tenor clef useful. If a part on bassoon, cello, or trombone sits consistently in a range where large numbers of ledger lines can be avoided in bass clef, I would use it. Notice: I only know about treble clef instruments. But, flute (and clarinet) parts often range in multi-ledger zone places for long periods of time. I find that much easier to read, than, say, 8va basso. I would get totally lost in such a situation. So, I am wondering if this is also true of those above mentioned instrumentalists. Or are we only talking about professionals? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes
At 4/17/2005 10:31 PM, John Howell wrote: Our only inheritance from the treble-clef brass band system is the duplicate parts for treble clef (Bb-transposed) and bass clef (concert pitch) baritone/euphonium parts, both of which are still required in band arrangements. And I believe the justification is exactly the same as the justification for treble-clef brass band notation: baritone players are often recruited from supernumerary trumpet players. Exactly, I once took a poor third trumpet player and convinced her that she was more needed playing baritone. What was surprising was that she turned into an excellent baritone player. I am still a close friend of her husband, but unfortunately, she developed cancer and passed on. He always says that she didn't think she was any good on the baritone, either. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestoso Spam?
I don't think so. I have had this current address for 5 months and have never gotten ANY spam on it (yet . . .), and I subscribed this address to 7 listservs. Knocking on anything in the immediate vicinity ;-) At 4/26/2005 12:07 PM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote: Yes. Exactly the same for me; I use this address only since March... Bernard 2005/4/26, Simon Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did anyone else get a mail from the Maestoso mailing list? I got one through to an email address associated only with this list, I'm thinking they culled email addresses from here as I don't remember signing up to any list of theirs. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestoso Spam?
At 4/26/2005 01:32 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I don't think so. I have had this current address for 5 months and have never gotten ANY spam on it (yet . . .), and I subscribed this address to 7 listservs. Phil, did you get an email with the subject ... Music for Learning Music for Teaching Music for Playing ... that's the one I'm talking about? Nope. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Maestoso Spam?
At 4/26/2005 01:32 PM, Simon Troup wrote: I don't think so. I have had this current address for 5 months and have never gotten ANY spam on it (yet . . .), and I subscribed this address to 7 listservs. Phil, did you get an email with the subject ... Music for Learning Music for Teaching Music for Playing ... that's the one I'm talking about? Nope. And I have no junk filtering on this address. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Apple: Predator or protagonist?
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/050205kearns.html Wired Windows Apple: Predator or protagonist? By Dave Kearns, Network World, 05/02/05 The big news last week on the PC front, at least according to the general press, was the release of a new version of the Macintosh operating system - the one that's been touted by the code name Tiger, as in the hypothetical headline Apple unleashes Tiger to roam the streets of Redmond. We're leading the operating system race and others are following our taillights, Apple's Steve Jobs says. I guess it all depends on how you keep score. To put it into perspective, Apple could double or triple its installed base and still be little more than a tiny blip on the operating system radar. Microsoft still would control the CPU on more than 90% of the PCs in the world. This is Apple's fourth release in five years - and the company seems proud of that fact. It's like a throwback to the days where competitors were judged based on which had the bigger version number (for example, New AOL 5.79!). But what, exactly is new, different or revolutionary in the new operating system? Last week's San Jose Mercury News said: It is the first operating system to incorporate and expand upon the intensive hard-drive search popularized by Google. It also fetches the kind of up-to-the-minute stock, weather and flight information typically found on Web sites like Yahoo. Apple even improved on RSS news and blog feeds and integrates them into its Safari Web browser. These are the highlights, the things that, the story says, make Tiger innovative, rather than merely iterative. But there's nothing in that list that I can't (and don't) do today from my Windows 2000 desktop, nevermind what you can do with Windows XP Pro on your PC. This is all evolutionary, not revolutionary. It appears that what Apple has done is to take meaningful, desirable third-party services and applications and roll their own inside the operating system, thus presenting users with a fuller package of features. Of course, the third parties that had been providing these services as add-ons now are left out in the cold. When Microsoft does this, it's denounced as a predator and a monopolist. When Apple does it, it's praised as an innovator. Still, if Microsoft didn't have Apple to point to as competition, there might be more calls for government regulation of monopoly operating systems. We certainly don't want government bureaucrats designing our server and desktop environments. ... Dave Kearns is a writer and consultant in Silicon Valley. His most recent book is Peter Norton's Complete Guide to Networks. Dave's company, Virtual Quill, provides content services to network vendors: books, manuals, white papers, lectures and seminars, marketing, technical marketing and support documents. Virtual Quill provides words to sell by... Find out more at www.vquill.com or by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Firefox
Firefox suffers 'extremely critical' security hole Security researchers say exploit code is already circulating online News Story by Matthew Broersma MAY 09, 2005 (TECHWORLD.COM) - Firefox has two unpatched security holes that could allow an attacker to take control of a user's computer system, and exploit code is already circulating on the Internet, security researchers have warned. A patch is expected shortly, but users can protect themselves in the meantime by switching off JavaScript. In addition, the Mozilla Foundation said it has now made the flaws effectively impossible to exploit by changes to the server-side download mechanism on the update.mozilla.org and addons.mozilla.org sites, according to security experts. The flaws were confidentially reported to the Foundation on May 2. But by Saturday details had been leaked and were reported by several security organizations, including the French Security Incident Response Team (FrSIRT). Danish security firm Secunia marked the exploit as extremely critical, its most serious rating, the first time it has given a Firefox flaw this rating. In recent months, Firefox has picked up market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, partly because it is considered less vulnerable to attacks. However, industry observers have long warned that part of the reason the browser is more secure is because it has a relatively small user base. As Firefox's profile grows, attackers will increasingly target the browser. The exploit, discovered by Paul of Greyhats Security Group and Michael mikx Krax, makes use of two separate vulnerabilities. An attacker could create a malicious page using frames and a JavaScript history flaw to make software installations appear to be coming from a trusted site. By default, Firefox allows software installations from update.mozilla.org and addons.mozilla.org, but users can add their own sites to this whitelist. The second part of the exploit triggers software installation using an input verification bug in the IconURL parameter in the install mechanism. The effect is that a user could click on an icon and trigger the execution of malicious JavaScript code. Because the code is executed from the browser's user interface, it has the same privileges as the user running Firefox, according to researchers. The Mozilla Foundation said it has protected most users from the exploit by altering the software installation mechanism on its two whitelisted sites. However, it warned that users may be vulnerable if they have added other sites to the whitelist. We believe this means that users who have not added any additional sites to their software installation whitelist are no longer at risk, the Mozilla Foundation said in a statement published on Mozillazine.org. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac to PC
At 5/13/2005 07:11 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I want to send a sample of my Finale 2k3 work to a colleague who uses a PC. He has downloaded the Finale NotePad program... I add the .mus suffix, ZIP the file, and send it, but he is unable to open it. Open what? The zip file or the mus file? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: HYMNS vs PRAISE CHORUSES, PART 2
An oldie, but a goodie. = First, the original: An old farmer went to the city one weekend and attended the big city church. He cam home and his wife asked him how it was. Well, said the farmer, It was good. They did something different, however. They sang praise choruses instead of hymns. Praise choruses? said his wife. What are those? Oh, they're okay. They're sort of like hymns, only different, said the farmer. Well, what's the difference? asked his wife. The farmer said, Well, it's like this -- If I were to say to you: 'Martha, the cows are in the corn,' well, that would be a hymn. If, on the other hand, I were to say to you: 'Martha Martha, Martha, Oh, Martha, MARTHA, MARTHA, the cows, the big cows, the brown cows, the black cows, the white cows, the black and white cows, the COWS, COWS, COWS, are in the corn, are in the corn, are in the corn, the CORN, CORN, CORN' -- well, that would be a praise chorus. Now, the rebuttal, so to speak: A young Christian went to his local church usually, but one weekend attended a small town church. He came home and his wife asked him how it was. Well, said the young man, It was good. They did something different, however. They sang hymns instead of regular songs. Hymns, said his wife. What are those? Oh, they're okay. They're sort of like regular songs, only different, said the young man. Well, what's the difference? asked his wife. The young man said, Well, it's like this -- If I were to say to you: 'Martha, the cows are in the corn,' well, that would be a regular song. If, on the other hand, I were to say to you: Oh Martha, dear Martha, hear thou my cry Inclinest thine ear to the works of my mouth. Turn thou thy whole wondrous ear by and by To the righteous, inimitable, glorious truth. For the way of the animals who can explain There in their heads is no shadow of sense, Hearkenest they God's sun or his rain Unless from the mild, tempting corn they are fenced. Yea those cows in glad bovine, rebellious delight, Have broke free their shackles, their warm pens eschewed. Then goaded by minions of darkness and night They all my mild Chilliwack sweet corn have chewed. So look to that bright shining day by and by, Where all foul corruptions of earth are reborn. Where no vicious animal makes my soul cry And I no longer see those foul cows in the corn. Then, if I were to do only verses one, three and four and do a key change on the last verse, well, that would be a hymn. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] problem with extracting parts in Mac OS X Tiger?
At 11:54 AM 6/4/2005, Christopher Smith wrote: When I first got OSX, I had a bad RAM chip (original, too!) that started going bad just as I was trying to get OSX running. It was such a coincidence that I didn't even think of it, assuming it was software troubles. It took a Tech Tool session to identify it, and until then I was getting hangs and even kernel panics (what a name!) But then again, program crashes are so infrequent compared with OS9, and so less destructive, that I just think of that and smile... Huh? I thought Mac crashes were way less frequent than Windoze. Other than Microsoft DevStudio, nothing on my WINXP system EVER crashes. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
At 6/6/2005 01:57 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Hot off the press, Steve Jobs just announced officially that Apple are dropping IBM in favour of Intel chips. Apple Expected To Announce Shift To Intel Chips http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,102258,00.html?nlid=AM Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
At 6/7/2005 11:52 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: On the PC side, there really hasn't been any remarkable difference in any of the 1GHz+ CPUs from an end user point of view, except, perhaps, in the most computationally intense tasks. You are correct. But . . . For me, who uses multiple computationally intensive tasks all the time, that keeps me from getting coffee during major compiles ;-) Also, turning on the hyper-threading on recent Xeons, has made an amazing speed improvement when using VMWare to run multiple OSs at the same time. For light user, hyper-threading is probably not a big deal. But, if you run say, a database intensive task while also doing local email or word processing, hyper-threading really allows the user to not notice the background tasks. To turn on hyper-threading, you need to go to the BIOS settings. It will be in there somewhere ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
I will have to say, in defense of the Finale devs, anytime you are releasing after somebody, if they change things at the last moment, you are screwed. At 6/7/2005 12:54 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Fin2004 was released after the X versions of Quark, Cubase and Protools. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 07 Jun 2005, at 9:15 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:22 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: At 11:58 PM -0400 6/6/05, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't know of any other actively-developed commercial app that took longer releasing a native OS X version than Finale. It was such a great race to be last... Who _did_ win? Was it Quark or MM? I can't remember :-! Weren't Cubase (Steinberg) and Protools pretty late, too? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
At 6/7/2005 12:58 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 12:41 PM 6/7/05 -0400, Phil Daley wrote: For me, who uses multiple computationally intensive tasks all the time, that keeps me from getting coffee during major compiles ;-) Coffee, hell. A night's sleep when trying to render an hour-long video production on this 1.4GHz processor! I had a 2-processor 2.3 GHz (each) machine, but I think my Hyper-threaded single 3.6 GHz machine is faster. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
I don't know at what times those products were released. Anytime a product that you are based on changes, in say, 6 months before you are going to release means that you probably cannot implement those changes without pushing your product release date even further out. You apparently do not realize the amount of time it takes to test product changes. A product needs to stabilize at least 3 months before sending it to the shipping guys. And that date is at least a month before the product actually ships. It is not possible to make changes to your product, if a product that you are based on changes later than 4-5 months before your shipping date. It is just not going to happen. At 6/7/2005 01:23 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. How would last-minute changes to, e.g., Quark have any impact whatsoever on Finale's release date? (It's not like Coda were sitting around and wait for Quark to ship before they began work on Carbonizing Finale. Or maybe they were? It would certainly explain some things... ) The point is that Finale was, as far as I am aware, the last major actively-developed app to ship a native OS X version. Fin2k4 shipped in January 2004 -- two years and ten months after the initial release of OS X. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 07 Jun 2005, at 1:12 PM, Phil Daley wrote: I will have to say, in defense of the Finale devs, anytime you are releasing after somebody, if they change things at the last moment, you are screwed. At 6/7/2005 12:54 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Fin2004 was released after the X versions of Quark, Cubase and Protools. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Apple move to Intel
Thanks, I was assuming that Finale used these apps. I see now that you mean they are independent apps. At 6/7/2005 01:47 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 07 Jun 2005, at 1:38 PM, Phil Daley wrote: Anytime a product that you are based on changes, in say, 6 months before you are going to release means that you probably cannot implement those changes without pushing your product release date even further out. Phil -- Finale is not based on Quark. Or Cubase. Or Pro Tools. Those are completely independent applications that have nothing to do with Finale and have zero impact on Finale's release date. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Apple eyes the Pentium M
talks between AMD and Apple. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Apple eyes the Pentium M
At 6/9/2005 02:27 PM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: When Apple goes Intel, will Macs become targets for the latest viruses like our PC friends, or will a Mac still be a Mac? Depends on the OS. But I recently read that Linux is becoming more common. When that happens, they will; become a prime target. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Apple eyes the Pentium M
At 6/9/2005 03:01 PM, dhbailey wrote: Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: When Apple goes Intel, will Macs become targets for the latest viruses like our PC friends, or will a Mac still be a Mac? Since the viruses attack the users of a particular OS (windows users get viruses, Mac users don't) I don't see any reason that Mac users will be any more vulnerable. But with all the Mac bragging about being virus free, I'm really surprised some virus-writer hasn't written one just to stop the bragging. Macs used to have viruses. In late 80's, OS6 was particularly vulnerable to floppy disk viruses. I had Mac viruses before I ever got a Window's virus. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Apple eyes the Pentium M
On 10 Jun 2005 at 0:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an analogy that makes sense to me...when a windows programmer gets a flat tire, he just bolts another good tire to the outside of the axle rather than fixing the flat. Mac programmers anticipate a flat tire and do their best to have an alternative plan. I've owned both windows machines and Apple machines. I must have missed this on the first go-round. Mac programmers are no more clueful than Windows programmers. They have as many errors in their code as Windows programmers do, in fact, I will bet dollars to doughnuts that they have more errors, because they have not been under the gun of virus writers. As soon as the Mac has a significant share of the marketplace, they will have as many viruses as Windows. But, don't hold your breath. That's not going to happen in the next 10 years. I expect Linux to reach that milestone earlier. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale 2006
At 6/23/2005 12:14 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: That's what I'd call the expected part of the move. The notation technology is MATURE--there simply isn't a great deal of advancement or enhancement left to do. As to bug fixes, a software vendor that squashes every single bug has nowhere to go, so much as I may hate it, I live with it This statement makes absolutely no sense. As I am working for a software vendor, be assured that this is certainly not our philosophy. We try to fix ALL bugs, but, I agree with many comments on this list, we fix the squeaky wheel first. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Finale 2006 - MakeMusic's response
At 6/23/2005 08:33 PM, Richard Yates wrote: We do not have the list of fixed issues yet, as the program is not yet finished. That list will not be available until the program is shipping. Wouldn't you think that fixes would come before features in a development cycle? No, because adding new features might break existing stuff. Then you would be making fixes twice. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Shareware Multitrack Audio App for Mac?
At 6/24/2005 12:40 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 24 Jun 2005, at 12:16 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 11:56 AM 6/24/05 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: Audio drift in GPO is, unfortunately, *not* subtle -- like I said, when GPO gets overloaded, it drops *lots* of frames -- often entire beats Does this same problem occur when you send the entire document to an audio file? I know that the studio software I use has a live mode and a file-save mode. The live mode can choke, but the file-save mode works out of real time, and doesn't lose info. Hi Dennis, The save as audio in GPO Studio works in real time (i.e., you still have to play back the file in Finale). The results are actually a little better than you'd expect from listening to the playback you're recording -- for some reason, some of the pops and clicks audible during playback don't get saved to the audio file -- but when GPO trips up badly (usually due to too much polyphony), the audio file is definitely affected. This is interesting. Maybe the processor is not that good at switching between processes, or interleaving with disk access? It sounds like the tasks are being starved of processing time. Maybe that's why Apple is switching to Intel? Just a thought. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Plug-ins and Vintage.
At 6/27/2005 11:28 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The issue of preservation of older software, especially games, is a big deal now. The US Copyright Office recently had a call for comments on 'abandonware' and what it means and how the current law applies. The definition of 'abandonware' is also in flux. Mostly it means software where the copyright owner is gone or the software is no longer supported, and in order to preserve it, various extra-legal measures need to be taken (including reverse-engineering and breaking protection schemes). It's a concern, even if not yet in Finale's case. Why not? They most certainly do not support 1.0 anymore. (Is my Windows 2.2 version still supported?) Of course not. Windows 95 is no longer supported. Windows 98 might be not supported, either, but I am not sure about that. One thing to be said in Microsoft's favor is the new OSes, since I got Finale 3.7 on Win3.1, have all supported older programs. I have upgraded from Win 3.1 to Win95, Win98, Win98SE, Win98ME, Win2K and WinXP with SP1, SP2 and have had zero problems running Finale 3.7 I suspect it will stop working on Longhorn, but I already have a computer specifically set up with Win98 just to run my scanner, not a Microsoft problem, but a lack of driver problem directly attributable to the scanner manufacturer who decided not to make an NT driver. I'll just put Finale on this older computer. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale - Error occurred. ID = -12
At 6/27/2005 12:07 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 at 8:18, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:39:25 -0500, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever seen this error? I'm getting it when I try to open a file in Fin05b. My friend has sent both the .mus and the .etf, and both get the same error. I have seen that before. It's usually fixed when I get the sender to resend in a compressed file (.zip, .sit, etc.). Sometimes sending files naked through email can slightly corrupt them, but packaged in a compressed file they should be readily accessible once unzipped. Only a defective email client could corrupt an attached file. I don't believe this is true. An ISP can corrupt a file, especially if they don't know what file type it is. AOL is infamous for this. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] half rests in 6/4? - back to the original question, please!
On Jun 29, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Subdominant (used to mean the 4th of the scale, or the chord built on it. Now means ANY chord that can lead to a dominant Really? I only know the term as referring to the chord built on the 4th of the scale. So you're telling me that a IIm7 chord would be described as subdominant? To me that sounds very wrong. mdl Thinking about this, I believe I was taught that a iim7 chord resolving to dominant was called a secondary dominant. My theory teacher was from the Rochester school. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Paul Creston's 12/12
At 7/1/2005 12:08 PM, Gerald Berg wrote: Just thought I'd re-title for those pursuing other gambits. Jerry On 1-Jul-05, at 11:38 AM, Gerald Berg wrote: Unfortunately i could not down load the mp3 file David. If you put around a URL, it will be less likely to be split up by a mail program: http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/SideBySideViols/05 Coperario-Fantasy à3.mp3 Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: half rests in 6/4?
Interesting coincidence. I went to the Boston Pops concert last night. One of the numbers (Burt Bacharat) was in a fast 4. It had some obvious 6/4 (3/2) measures in it (with 3 half notes as the predominate rhythm). But Keith Lochart conducted right through them in 3/4, as though there were 3 beats in the measure. I wonder if that's how it was written in the score?. So, instead of listening to (and enjoying) the music, I got caught up in the rhythmic hemiolas ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?
At 7/12/2005 09:13 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I agree with Aaron. This is a very good point. Dennis has already made generally available for free a whole cartload of his work (musical and verbal) while retaining his copyright, on his various websites. No doubt he considers his writings here to be similar. Then he needs to mark every message with a Copyright statement. Otherwise he hasn't a leg to stand on, legally. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?
At 7/12/2005 11:26 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Note: This Email is copyrighted. It may not be redistributed by anyone without written permission of the author. © 2005 by Johannes Gebauer, Berlin, Germany. All rights reserved. You make think this is funny, but that's what I think it would take to actually make a case in court. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!
At 7/12/2005 01:22 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: The point of a private list is precisely that -- we speak to each other with a certain level of understanding and respect and especially mutual trust. You are totally wrong. There is no such thing as a private list than anyone in the general public can join. Good luck on your civil suit. I'll testify for the defense. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: graphics in MS word
At 7/12/2005 01:56 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: does anyone know of a way to find out the file name of a graphic which has been inserted into a word doc? No. They have been imported, ie. delinked from the object source. They have no knowledge of whence they came from. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?
At 7/12/2005 12:04 PM, Stephen Peters wrote: Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then he needs to mark every message with a Copyright statement. Or, even more directly, he could put a header line in each email that says X-No-Archive: true. From what I've seen, all these mail collectors do respect such requests to not archive those messages. A good idea. But, I think it's interesting that someone even wants to collect _my_ 2 cents ;-) I just did a Google search on my name. Last year there were about 30, 000 entries, about half to an Australian rugby player. Now there are only 1000, again half to the rugby guy. It seems like Google has cut back on the archives it searches. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [Tan] Take it down!
At 7/12/2005 03:49 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Apologies for my earlier message, I misunderstood what this was showing No problem. Still, I maintain that if you don't want your email address to be widely-publicised, using a mailing list to which anyone can subscribe is a silly thing to do Why does it have to be that way? Can't I join a professional list? (If I can call it that, I do this for a living!). You need to join a moderated list then. The moderator can then control who is allowed to join and read the list. That is not what this is. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?
At 7/12/2005 03:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the difference between posting to any unmoderated Usenet group and posting to the Finale list. It's a *huge* difference. I guess you need to explain why there is ANY difference, other than having to subscribe ahead of time. Since ANYONE can subscribe, how is it any different? I note that there don't seem to be any explicit Finale list terms of service accessible from http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale. It was so long ago that I subscribed that I don't believe I have the terms of service you get when you subscribe. I think it would be helpful to have those accessible from the listinfo page (based on my past experiencing administering a mailman mailing list, I know that part of the content of that page is configurable by the list administrator). Here you go: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:06:43 EST From: MX mailing list processor [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RETAIN IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE You have been added to mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Further administrative requests regarding this list should be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following commands can be handled automatically by the list processor: SIGNOFF Finale - to remove yourself from the list REVIEW Finale - to get a list of subscribers QUERY Finale - to get the status of your entry on the list SET Finale MAIL- to resume receiving mail from the list SET Finale NOMAIL - to remain on the list but not receive mail SET Finale CONCEAL - to not report your address in a REVIEW SET Finale NOCONCEAL - to report your address in a REVIEW SET Finale REPRO - to receive posts you make to Finale SET Finale NOREPRO - to not receive posts you make to Finale LIST - to get a list of mailing lists served by this host HELP - to receive a help file By default, subscriptions are set to MAIL, REPRO, NOCONCEAL. Sam Houston State University's implementation of LISTSERV is mail oriented exclusively and is only responsive to the above commands. Conventional IBM-based interactive LISTSERV is not available, nor are its complement of commands -- only those listed above. Please do NOT send administrative messages to the list address (Finale@SHSU.edu) as posts to these addresses are sent to the entire subscribership distribution for the list. About Finale Archives Archives of Finale are maintained via MAIL on the Sam Houston State University file server, FILESERV, under the filename structure FINALE.-MM, where represents the year and mm represents the numeric equivalent of the month. For example, the archives of Finale for January, 1994, would be FINALE.1994-01. To retrieve via MAIL the Finale archives for June, 1994, include the command: SENDME FINALE.1994-06 in the body of a mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may send FILESERV multiple commands so long as each resides on a unique line of the MAIL message. If you are interested in available FILESERV commands, include the command HELP in the body of a mail message to FILESERV. --- FTP access to files served on FILESERV --- Most files which are accessible for FILESERV retrieval are also available for anonymous ftp retrieval from Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8), including the archives for Finale. Archives for Finale are retained in the directory [FILESERV.FINALE] using the same filename syntax as above. List owner: Henry E. Howey [EMAIL PROTECTED] (This message was generated automatically.) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Does anyone know about this?
At 7/13/2005 08:09 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Phil Daley schrieb: Here you go: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:06:43 EST From: MX mailing list processor [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE AND RETAIN IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE You have been added to mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil, you may not have noticed, but the world has changed a little since 1997, and so has the Finale list. It has moved to a new listserver application, email addresses are no longer accesible in the archives, and the archives are members only. There are good reasons for all this, that weren't there in 1997. Ooops, sorry about that mix up. I didn't check the version. I must not have saved the new version, when I signed up recently. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list
OK, here's the current list info when you subscribe: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:41:52 -0500 Welcome to the Finale@shsu.edu mailing list! To post to this list, send your email to: finale@shsu.edu General information about the mailing list is at: http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/options/finale/p_daley%40conknet.com You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: shoals Normally, Mailman will remind you of your shsu.edu mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius
At 7/13/2005 09:49 AM, Ken Durling wrote: I don't have time to go over this point by point, but this list looks like it was from version 1.4. I'm really not sure what relevance it has at this point. But at a glance I see things that have been fixed, things that haven't and things that display an ignorance of how Sibelius works. Did you really mean to prolong the already protested Sibelius thread by asking for this long list to be addressed, or is this just an out-of-date Sibelius bash? I just thought it was interesting and possibly relevant. I guess not. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list
Not a problem. I already unsubscribed. It was just a test address so I could see what the message was. I guess I should have read it more carefully ;-) At 7/13/2005 10:39 AM, Allen Fisher wrote: Hope nobody unsubscribes you *grin* On 7/13/05 8:40 AM, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this: You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: Welcome to the Finale mailing list
At 7/13/2005 12:15 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Phil Daley schrieb: OK, here's the current list info when you subscribe: I hvae sort of lost the point of it, though. What was it you were trying to say? D Fenton said he didn't know what the current subscriber info had to say on privacy, ie. nothing. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?
Just clicking on the header works fine in V5. At 7/13/2005 12:47 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:19 PM 07/13/2005, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: I am interested in your Eudora tip. Thanks for sharing. What is the equivalent on a Windows keyboard of the Mac option key? Alt-click for Win Eudora. You can also Alt-click on a sender's name to quickly group and select all email in the mailbox from that person. This requires some recent version of Eudora. I see that you're using 5.1, which doesn't have this feature. (Latest is 6.2.3) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?
At 7/13/2005 12:50 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Wow, I think that was a little uncalled for. Isn't the policy though to label OT and TAN in the subject header? The Sib stuff was neither OT nor TAN. Get a life. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Eudora column sorting
At 7/13/2005 01:17 PM, Phil Daley wrote: Just clicking on the header works fine in V5. I just did a test. click, CTRL-click, or ALT-click sorts the list forwards. SHIFT-click sorts the list backwards. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.
At 7/14/2005 06:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean the same thing? Example: Cool, HotThat's really cool! That's really hot! (both meaning essentially that's really phat!) ;-) Slang?? Colloquialisms? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius
At 7/13/2005 09:03 PM, Ken Durling wrote: Sorry, Phil. I overreacted because it was so old as to defy relevance in my eyes. But of course I know the program. I'm sure it's interesting and relevant to someone who hasn't been tracking its progress.. See the response on this list from Daniel at Sibelius, to whom I forwarded your post. Hope that's not a copyright violation! ;-) ;-) It wasn't my post originally, anyway. I had saved it in my archive of interesting stuff. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius
At 7/15/2005 01:35 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Is nVidia the chipset that ATI uses? Mine is ATI and I know it's an nVidia chipset. I can't seem to find any way to poke the thing to find out how much RAM it has. Right click the desktop. Choose Properties. Choose Settings. Click the Advanced button. Choose the Adapter tab. This will give you the Type and RAM Mine is a Quadro FX 3400 with 256MB RAM. That dialog also has a separate tab for some specific adapters, like mine. Choosing that tab, Quadro FX 3400, gives info about what the adapter supports, like Open GL, Direct3D, etc. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius
At 7/15/2005 10:45 AM, Ken Durling wrote: At 10:17 PM 7/14/2005, you wrote: The Intel graphics controller is not a proper graphics controller at all -- it means there is no separate graphics card, and the CPU has to handle drawing in addition to everything else. Whether it supports OpenGL or Direct3D is anyone's guess -- if it did, it would be very slow. Thanks, Darcy - So the fact that it lists 32MB video memory means that it's using some part or partition of system RAM for the video? Correct. You can usually control where the memory partition is located in the BIOS setup. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 11:56 PM 7/16/2005, Ken Durling wrote: As long as we're talking about slang superlatives, I'd like to hear some theories about where fly came from or how it came to mean what it does. I was surprised to read that it was in usage in the 30's - in Duke's Music is my Mistress with much the same meaning (fly girl) as it has now, or well, at least it did in the 70's. I suppose it's gone now. And don't tell me it's an acronym for Fine Lady, Young. ;-) Doesn't it have to do with zippers? ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Test
Evetyone must be regrouping ;-) At 7/18/2005 12:47 PM, dhbailey wrote: This list has been very quiet since this morning, so I'm wondering if somehow I've become unsubscribed. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 7/18/2005 11:43 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Ken Durling wrote: At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote: Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case. Well, is chops a clue? Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players? ;) Are you saying sax players don't have chops?? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote: At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote: Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe years before I ever heard of woodshedding.) And barbershopers have been using woodshedding for decades Well, that's because they NEED it ;-) I have been to a couple of BarberShop groups because I like to sing (I also direct a 4-part men's chorus). As soon as they say You have to memorize the music, I'm outta there. I can sing the music correctly the first time through, obviously, using the music. What do I gain by spending my time memorizing the same music? I can understand that 90% of people in those groups have to learn the music by rote, since they are clueless about actually reading the music. But why penalize me? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 7/19/2005 04:17 PM, John Howell wrote: At 1:11 PM -0400 7/19/05, Phil Daley wrote: I can understand that 90% of people in those groups have to learn the music by rote, since they are clueless about actually reading the music. But why penalize me? Of course they do, and that's typical of recreational singing. Instrumentalists learn to read music in beginning band; singers too often don't. They aren't professionals, they don't have advanced training, and reading music is not high on their list of priorities. I'm sorry you feel penalized, but it just shows that you don't belong in that particular environment. I've worked at all levels of many different kinds of music, and I have to adjust my expectations to match the situation, which I generally manage to do. I agree that professionals need to do whatever is required. I also have given up trying to sing with groups that require memorizing the music. I consider it their loss. Perhaps, they don't ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/19/2005 11:17 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Off-topic, of course, and submitted without comment, but some may find this LA Times editorial interesting: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-soprano11jul11,0,369179.story Yes, I already read that article. It was in our local newspaper. I did think it interesting, perhaps a sign of the times in a red state. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 7/20/2005 05:55 AM, dhbailey wrote: Phil Daley wrote: At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote: At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote: Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe years before I ever heard of woodshedding.) And barbershopers have been using woodshedding for decades Well, that's because they NEED it ;-) I have been to a couple of BarberShop groups because I like to sing (I also direct a 4-part men's chorus). As soon as they say You have to memorize the music, I'm outta there. I can sing the music correctly the first time through, obviously, using the music. What do I gain by spending my time memorizing the same music? I can understand that 90% of people in those groups have to learn the music by rote, since they are clueless about actually reading the music. But why penalize me? I think it's for the visual effect -- all the Barbershop chorus concerts I've attended have been wonderful visual performances as well as musical performances, and they would not be the same with the music in everybody's hands. I can agree with that. That is probably the real reason. I find groups that do visual things while singing very distracting from the music. But, I guess that's me. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
At 7/20/2005 11:33 AM, John Howell wrote: There's a three-part approach to this that works well with amateurs, and even with professionals. First you teach the music, making sure that all the parts are solidly learned. Then teach the choreography, during which they forget half the music. Then reteach the music coordinated with the choreography. It works just fine; you just have to know in advance that this is what you need to do. I agree. But . . . Most amateurs (in my area) don't have enough time to actually learn the music, let alone, learn some additional choreography. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/20/2005 09:01 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I think this thing has been blown way out of proportion. In particular, turning it into a red state issue, in which all us enlightened people insult and ridicule those stupid Middle Americans for their supposed backwardness, is way out of line. Even if this one school is doing something wrong -- and it's not clear to me that it is -- that's still no reason to malign the entire state. You've missed the issue totally. It is a STATE issue, not one school. Read the subject, All-State Choir. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/21/2005 12:33 PM, Tyler Turner wrote: All-State Choir. Taylor said the policy doesn't amount to discrimination because Rawls can try out for any of the more traditional male parts. He cannot sing those parts. This is stupid. I'm sorry, but the world is bigger than this boy. He has found success and acceptance as a countertenor, and he should go forward with that. But asking for new rules to be made for the sake of one person, when these rules can make a mess in who knows how many other ways, is just selfish. Again, another person has missed the whole point. They made these rules specifically to exclude him. These rules were not in existence a year ago. They are purposely being discriminatory. I suppose you believe in discrimination? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State
At 7/21/2005 01:37 PM, Neal Schermerhorn wrote: Phil Daley wrote: I suppose you believe in discrimination? Say a classical guitarist wants to participate in All-State. Can he? Isn't that discrimination? Why, he could play viola parts... It would be discrimination if there are no classical guitarists auditioned. That would be up to the classical guitarists to file the lawsuit. To say he could play viola doesn't even deserve a comment. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/21/2005 02:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: And it wouldn't surprise me if there were repertory on the all-state choir's program that was originally written for all men, with no women at all (you realize that women were mostly prohibited from singing in church at all until the 18th century or so?). Texas just wants to play catch up (or is that down?) with Kansas, the no-evolution state ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/22/2005 12:57 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: I agree with John Howell that any individual can be rejected for specific reasons which might be correlated with his sex, without the need for a blanket rule banning the sex outright. The idea of auditioning the voices blind is interesting, but I think it's ultimately unrealistic. I am surprised that any states do not use blind judging. How do they eliminate the possibility that a judge would know a student and then use that information in the resulting rating? The states I have worked in all used blind judging. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State
At 7/22/2005 01:42 AM, Neal Schermerhorn wrote: Phil Daley wrote: To say he could play viola doesn't even deserve a comment. Oh, sure it does. Because a countertenor asking to sing a soprano part or alto part is no different than a guitarist claiming to be able to playa viola part. I can read the clef, I can match the tone really closely. Why not let me? Would YOU allow a classical guitarist to play viola parts in an All-State orchestra? After all, you'd never hear his unique tone diference in the amalgamation of all the players. I could be wrong, but I don't think a guitarist can use a bow. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] notation program comparison
At 7/22/2005 12:37 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: A proper comparison, it seems to me, would include (as do performance auditions) music from numerous genres. For me that might include a comparison of settings of... ...a page of plainchant in appropriate fonts ...a page of Couperin complete with ornaments ...a page of a Bach cantata including figured bass ...the opening page of a tuplet-heavy Chopin prelude such as Op. 28 No. 8 (complete with ossia) ...a snippet of gigunda pages from Gotterdammerung or Gurre Lieder or Sacre ...a page of big band arrangement of Lush Life or a section from Mingus's Epitaph or Bley's Escalator ...a middle page of Stravinsky's Anthem: A Dove Descending ...part of Berio's Gesti or Cage's Music of Changes ...and the killer, Stockhausen's Nr. 11 Refrain (back cover of the original edition of Gardner Read) What program could do them all, and do them well, time-effectively, and produce a demo? (And I agree with Simon that a showcase might be more effective than a competition.) I agree that one person would not be familiar with all of these styles. Have people submit entries to whatever and how many categories they want to. I think it would be really interesting to see the results. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
At 7/22/2005 02:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 Jul 2005 at 19:13, Tyler Turner wrote: It is the belief of many professionals that singing out of one's normal range is bad for the voice. Whether we agree or disagree is not the issue here. The issue is the motivation for the rule. This is a valid possibility. The burden of proof does not fall to me to show that this can hurt the voice. It doesn't even fall on me to show that TMEA members used this as part of their reasoning. The integrity of these individuals has been called into question. Before anyone is bold enough to do this, it should fall on them to disprove all plausible doubts before making accusations. It's not my job to show their explanation is genuine. It's the accuser's job to show their explanation is unquestionably a lie. You're missing the point. The rule is unnecessarily rigid. So, we can actually agree on the premise behind the justification given for the rule and still see the rule as being WRONG, precisely because the rule PREVENTS certain singers from singing in their normal voice range. I agree. What about teachers who force basses to sing tenor because they are short of tenors? Isn't that the same problem? I don't see them outlawing that. I really think it is a gender discrimination thing. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Countertenor barred from Texas All-State Choir
No one has posted a rational response to the complaint that the Texas Music people are being prejudicial to sissies who sing soprano. They are trying to CYA by complaining about singing out of range crap. They are obviously being discriminating in their decisions. The list person who said it was the same as saying the back seat of the bus was as good a seat as the front of the bus was right on target. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2006 first impressions
At 7/27/2005 11:39 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Well, Win98 is based on technology developed in the mid-90s (it's a minor upgrade to the original Win95, which was a major new version of Windows). Lots and lots of important things have been introduced to the NT versions of Windows that make it much more pleasant to work with and administer. It just doesn't crash, ever. If only that were true... I've had XP crash on me several times. Maybe not as often as 98se, but it has crashed. And 98 really wasn't all that bad. The only OS I've ever used that never crashed (in 2 1/2 years without a reboot) was OS/2. OS/2 was better than NT at that time. Win2K was better than OS/2, but they both could be crashed. I have been using WinXP for 2 years and it has never bluescreened. It is the most stable OS I have ever used. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2006 first impressions
At 7/28/2005 05:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, anti-aliasing, no the other hand, is a completely different animal. There should be a choice there for non-ClearType anti- aliasing, though I don't know what it is (and don't have an XP system to check). Anti-aliasing has been supported in Windows since Win95, but back then you had to have the Plus! pack to get it (as though clear onscreen display were an extra that nobody really needed!). XP offers Standard and ClearType. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 7/29/2005 06:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow -- I never knew that! When I installed WinXPpro(SP1 which I have since upgraded to service pack 2) on my desktop, I had a CDrw drive and a DVDrom drive. They both worked excellently after I installed WinXP and required no extra drivers to be installed. Then I took them both out and replaced them with a single DVD+-RW drive, and it records all matter of media except dual-layer DVDs, since it isn't designed for that, all without any installation disk, all without any problems. From my experience with WinXP I would say that support for optical drives is great. I agree. Everybody here (like 250 people) have both CDRW and DVD drives all working perfectly. We mostly use HP computers, perhaps it's a DELL problem? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Cleartype [was: Fin2006 first impressions]
At 7/29/2005 06:34 AM, dhbailey wrote: Wow, I just tried it on my 19 Viewsonic monitor (resolution set to 1280x960) and Cleartype made things muddier and more difficult to read -- setting it back to Standard made them clearer again. I tried it on my 21 NEC running at 1600x1200 and could see no difference. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 05:56 PM 7/29/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you won't encounter the problems unless you persist in using your optical drives like removable disks, i.e., the way you could in all previous versions of Windows. Here's the scenario that reveals the problems: Use commandline XCOPY to backup files to a CD-R. Try it once. It will work. Try it 3 times, and chances are that 1 of those attempts will hang and never finish. And you won't be able to shut down your PC without pulling the plug. That is what CD-RW media is for. CD-R media is for making permanent backups of some particular state. I would never have imagined that your particular case would have ever worked. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 06:25 PM 7/30/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: With WinXP, it started breaking, becoming unreliable (because of the addition of the staging area, I believe). This was my point: using the drive CORRECTLY (as you agree, it seems to me), it now, with WinXP, doesn't work reliably. I was unaware that you could use XCOPY to write to a CD-R. Since it is so easy to use a CD Creator program and you can save the Image file so it can be used multiple times, I can see no reason to use an unreliable program, like XCOPY. I gave up using it when log files names arrived. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 7/31/2005 05:01 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Since it is so easy to use a CD Creator program and you can save the Image file so it can be used multiple times, I can see no reason to use an unreliable program, like XCOPY. How do you script a CD Creator program for regular backup, so that it's a single doubleclick for the end user? It can even be added to the Task Scheduler, so that users wouldn't even have to think about double clicking anything. Secondly, why would you want to repeatedly backup a single image of your data files? You've lost me. I thought that was what you were doing with a backup script? I thought you were copying a set of directories to a CD-R. That's what a Creator script does, makes the same type of backup to a CD-R. Obviously, it copies all the changes, which you don't seem to understand. If you're doing a full backup, yes, imaging the drive is great. No. I would never ever do a full backup, too big, too many CDs. But if all you're doing is a data backup (substantially less data), then it's not satisfactory. Of course not, that is not what I was saying to do. 1. the built in backup program provided with WinXP can only use hard drives or floppy disks, not CD-R. I would never use a Microsoft backup program. 2. the built-in tools for creating CD-Rs are not scriptable, so you can't create a backup script to run at will or no a schedule. I said you need a CD Creator program. What would you suggest for backup, both method and medium? A CD Creator program. Didn't you read my message? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 8/1/2005 02:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Image file means one of two things: 1. a file that has the contents of an entire CD that can then be imaged onto the CD-R/RW in one operation. 2. a file that captures the image of an entire hard drive, created with programs like Symantec's Ghost. 3. A list of directories saved to a CD through a program that saves images of what you previously saved. Just because you never heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Is it just me?
At 8/1/2005 02:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I said you need a CD Creator program. Well, then, you're agreeing with me that it is impossible to do this with standard Windows XP -- you need add-on software. Correct. What would you suggest for backup, both method and medium? A CD Creator program. Didn't you read my message? You have changed the terms of the question without saying so. I was never talking about buying add-on software, as should have been clear to you if you'd bothered to pay any attention to the thread. It should have been clear to you if you were paying attention to what i wrote. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: TAN: Brain music
At 8/1/2005 03:12 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: I can tell you first hand that some music therapists are doing some very useful things with autistics and other folk with this sort of impairment. With some autistics, music helps them focus and be present, even severely autistic individuals. No cures, though. At least it sounds like it has possibilities. When I wrote the paper, 35 years ago, the research was mostly on totally deaf people. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: TAN: Brain music
At 8/2/2005 10:07 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: My wife is a nurse practitioner at the local VA nursing home, wh. offers a variety of adjuvant therapies including music therapy. The point of music therapy is to use music to help people with neurological problems to focus and find workarounds for their condition. Music, for example, is a tremendous help in memorizing words--all of us know that a poem is much easier to remember when it is sung. So people with stutters or word-finding difficulties can be and are helped by using musical mnemonics to get around the places they get stuck. Similarly, music can help with coordinating motions, retrieving memories, and so on. That's what music therapy is, and does. It has a long, long history, and it works. A lot of us have a visceral negative reaction to the sight of a bunch of gorked-out elders vaguely trying to get through Mary Had a Little Lamb--but the fact is that this stuff helps them. The point is good medicine, not good music. I have no problem with music therapy for people who can hear. The studies I read were all about Music Therapy for totally deaf people. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Opening files - asks to save?!
At 8/2/2005 03:13 PM, dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: Maybe they can fix this one, too, on their way to fixing EPS export in Windows. :-) You mean it's not fixed in 2006? Winsupport, 18 November 2004: We do not know when it will be fixed for Windows 2000. I know when it will be fixed for Win2K . . . never ;-) They might fix it for WinXP someday. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinWin2006confusion
At 8/5/2005 12:01 PM, Bruce Hunter wrote: My shakuhachi font does not work in WinFin 2004 or QuattroPro8. Just to clarify, In finale, I can select the font, and it will temporarily display in a text box, but as soon as the page is scrolled, or another entry is made on the page, the text box display reverts to whatever was selected previously, or, the first font on my list which is Arial, can't remember, but I can check it, if that behavior is a clue. Seems like a bug, but perhaps there is a work-around. What if you set the default font to shakuhachi, then change the passages to Arial, or whatever. When you scroll, does the font revert to shakuhachi? Have you tried saving the document every time you changed font? Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: shakuhachi
At 8/5/2005 01:38 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I just can't stop thinking who the hell would want to name a font Shakuhachi, which has a really nasty sexual double meaning. I mean, since there is no connection I could think of Shakuhachi and font I immediately thought about the second meaning, y'know. (why no google hit by shakuhachi font?) The vending company that services our site is AB Vending Company. They have the web site plastered on their trucks, www.abvendingco.com The only thing I think of, when I see the truck, is Shadrak, Mishak, and Abvendingco ;-) Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
At 8/16/2005 05:19 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: When I got my first Win95 PC, I was very disappointed with Windows Explorer in the beginning and tried using File Manager for a while, but once I started accumulating long file names, it became impossible to use. I eventually got used to the single hierarchy for your entire computer (even though I still think it's conceptually wrong, and the wrongness has been vastly increased in later versions of Windows Explorer). What do you mean by single hierarchy. If you right click My Computer and choose Open, you get a single pane that is useless. Is that what you mean? I always use Explore (and set that as the default) so that you get 2 panes, one with drives and directories and the other with files. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you want. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [TAN] OSx86 for $199
At 8/17/2005 08:15 AM, Simon Troup wrote: As some of you may already be aware, some intrepid geeko techs are already trying to figure out how to get OSX to run on an ordinary PC, and some ae now speculating on how cheaply a PC could be built to run OSX: I read yesterday that it had already been done. You did have to download 2 hacked binaries, which is against the copyright laws. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
At 8/17/2005 01:51 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: No. My Computer is an Explorer view without the Folder Pane. You can make it look like what you get when you run Explorer.exe by going to the View menu and choosing to display the Folder Pane (under the poorly-named Explorer Bar menu choice). I mean what you get when you open Windows Explorer, as it is given on the Start Menu of every version of Windows since Win95, and what you get when you launch Explorer.exe and what you get when you hit Windows Key-E. That is, the standard Windows Explorer view. Not on my system. You are misunderstanding. You can set the default view to explore, not open. When I type explorer in run or click the explorer icon or hit windows key-e, I always get the 2 pane view. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Little joke for MacFinale users...
At 8/17/2005 11:54 PM, Richard Yates wrote: .While I am writing about Explorer, the two-pane, click to open a folder in the other pane, click that folder, etc to be quite tedious, especially when using an application to open files in one folder and then save them in another where the source and destination folders are several layers deep. There must be a better way, maybe something that functions more like the Start-programs where the submenus fly out with mouse rollover. It would be much faster to navigate up and down. Or even an Explorer view that shows the whole tree - or as many expanded levels as possible - all at once. You could just go where you wanted without all of that clicking up and down a tree. . With NUMLOCK ON, select a drive or directory in Explorer, press the asterisk key on the numerical keypad. This will expand everything from there on down. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Windows Keyboard shortcuts
At 8/18/2005 08:04 AM, Richard Yates wrote: Thanks, Phil. Wow! How long has that been there? Could be very useful although it doesn't do anything in Open and Save dbs. Also, for some reason, when I expand a directory this way I also have a 'Sign in with Microsoft Passport Network box popup (???) I just used it for the first time as a test. I knew it was there but have no need of it. I believe it's been there since Win95. There may have been a similar shortcut key in Win3.1. I don't know anything about Passport. It didn't happen to me. FYI: Here's the list I have: Using Windows key Minimize all open windows Windows+M Bring them back Shift Windows+M Reveal the desktop Windows+D Bring them back Windows+D again Another way to switch programs Windows+Tab Enter use multiple tabs to cycle Using shortcut keys in Windows Activate the menu bar in programs F10 Carry out the corresponding command on the menu ALT+underlined letter in menu Close the current window in Multiple Document Interface (MDI) programs. CTRL+F4 Close the current window or quit a program ALT+F4 Copy CTRL+C Cut CTRL+X Delete DELETE Display Help on the selected dialog box item F1 Display the current windows system menu ALT+SPACEBAR Display the shortcut menu for the selected item SHIFT+F10 Display the Start menu CTRL+ESC Display the system menu for MDI programs ALT+HYPHEN (-) Paste CTRL+V Switch to the window you last used -Or- Switch to another window by holding down ALT while repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB Undo CTRL+Z Using Shortcut keys in dialog boxes Cancel the current task ESC Click a button if the current control is a button -Or- Select or clear the check box if the current control is a check box -Or- Click the option if the current control is an option button SPACEBAR Click the corresponding command ALT+underlined letter Click the selected button ENTER Move backward through options SHIFT+TAB Move backward through tabs CTRL+SHIFT+TAB Move forward through options TAB Move forward through tabs CTRL+TAB Open a folder one level up if a folder is selected in the Save As or Open dialog box BACKSPACE Open Save In or Look In in the Save As or Open dialog box F4 Refresh the Save As or Open dialog box F5 Using shortcut keys for Windows Explorer Collapse the current selection if it is expanded -Or- Select the parent folder LEFT ARROW Collapse the selected folder NUM LOCK+MINUS SIGN (-) Expand the current selection if it is collapsed -Or- Select the first subfolder RIGHT ARROW Expand all folders below the current selection NUM LOCK+* Expand the selected folder NUM LOCK+PLUS SIGN (+) Switch between left and right panes F6 Using Shortcut keys for My Computer and Windows Explorer Close the selected folder and all of its parent folders SHIFT while clicking the Close button (My Computer only) Move backward to a previous view ALT+LEFT ARROW Move forward to a previous view ALT+RIGHT ARROW View the folder one level up BACKSPACE Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
