Re: Quick mail advice / Laptop use

2006-11-28 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:30:09AM -, Graham Bentley wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I noticed that fetchmail created a file mbox but
 Mutt creates a 'Mail' directory however the mail 
 seems to download into /var/mail
 
 Mutt asks me on exit to copy to mbox format.
 
 The Mail directory also has only one folder and
 on exit is empty. /var/mail still has copies.
 
 Can anyone clear up my confusions ;
 
 Where should mail be located ?

Depends om what softs you are using. I use qmail, procmail and getmail
so I use Maildirs 

 How can I configure a 'sent items' for Mutt?

I don't know what this means. If you want a copy of all your outgoing
then put:

set copy=yes

in .muttrc

 How can I create an address book for Mutt?

touch a file called .mail_aliases in your homedir and fill it with
your addresses, one per line. E.g:

alias b FreeBSD UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Put:

set alias_file=~/.mail_aliases 
source .mail_aliases 

in .muttrc

You should then be able to mail freebsd-users UK by putting b in the
To: field (it will expand). Or hitting t and then tab will bring up
all your aliases to choose from.

Once you've got a few addresses in .mail_aliases run it through
sort(1) to make it more easily readable.

 
 I know this would be better on the Mutt list
 but I also know there are some big Mutt fans
 here and asI am trying this on FreeBSD maybe
 more relevent ?

Your best bet is either to join the mutt mailing list or
comp.mail.mutt. This is OT for freebsd-questions.

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-28 Thread Alexandre Vieira

On 11/28/06, Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 11/28/06, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 16 November 2006, at 01:34, George Allan wrote:

  On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:
  Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
  (as this is my day in day out operating system).
 
  http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
 
  Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.
 
  My vote is for Thinkpads

 Mine too. I have an R51. Man, that computer is awesome. No issues
 with it, etc.

Toshiba is good too, when you compare it's price with ibm, you'll find
Toshiba with it's features is better choice.

Thank you,

-Abdullah
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Acers may or may not be a good choise.

I have a friend who bought one and it was all out of the box.

The two latest Acers I touched (one I bought and the other a friend bought
it) showed some problems.

ACPI implementation is horrible. I think they only tested it with Microsoft
Windows.

Some parts (ex: DVD drive) can be very poor quality parts and can fail
reasonably quickly.

Apart this everything works fine.

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-27 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)


On 16 November 2006, at 01:34, George Allan wrote:


On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
(as this is my day in day out operating system).


http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile


Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


My vote is for Thinkpads


Mine too. I have an R51. Man, that computer is awesome. No issues  
with it, etc.



A quick search of the archives will bear out
the popularity of that opinion.

Be prepared first to investigate the hardware on any prospective  
model,
second, evaluate the support with respect to each and every device,  
and

finally, spend time and effort configuring things so things work just
right, for increasingly large values of right.

I believe the investment in time and effort pays off in all sorts of
ways, but chances are you'll end up with a system that you'll consider
indispensible and one that you'll know better than your girlfriend,
wife, or whatever.   I'll leave it to you decide whether that's a good
thing.  ;-)


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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-27 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

On 11/28/06, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 16 November 2006, at 01:34, George Allan wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:
 Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
 (as this is my day in day out operating system).

 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile

 Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.

 My vote is for Thinkpads

Mine too. I have an R51. Man, that computer is awesome. No issues
with it, etc.


Toshiba is good too, when you compare it's price with ibm, you'll find
Toshiba with it's features is better choice.

Thank you,

-Abdullah
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Josef Grosch
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:34:18PM -0800, George Allan wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:
  Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
  (as this is my day in day out operating system).
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
  
  Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.
 
 My vote is for Thinkpads.  A quick search of the archives will bear out
 the popularity of that opinion.


I also vote for Thinkpads. My trusty T22 has never failed me. The T43 that
work gave me ran FreeBSD 6.1 like a champ. The only problem I had with the
T43 was the fact it did not have a proper serial port. I was told to use
some silly USB connector which never worked right.

Yeah, a Thinkpad is expensive but they are worth it in the long run.


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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread John Smith

On 11/16/06, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Folks,

Well I stayed off the beer and other sinful delights for a while (month
or so P:) and have raked together enough cash to buy a new laptop. For
those of you out there with experience what would you advise. The plan
would be for ..unfortunately Windoze (vba stuff for work), Freebsd, and
most likely fedora. I had no problems getting my wireless to
work on the old one using the ndis stuff and freebsd beat the other
two hands down for performance.

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


thanks

Geoff


I would say Toshiba ;)

-J
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, November 16, 2006 a las 12:20:44PM +0300, John Smith escribió:

 On 11/16/06, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 Well I stayed off the beer and other sinful delights for a while (month
 or so P:) and have raked together enough cash to buy a new laptop. For
 those of you out there with experience what would you advise. The plan
 would be for ..unfortunately Windoze (vba stuff for work), Freebsd, and
 most likely fedora. I had no problems getting my wireless to
 work on the old one using the ndis stuff and freebsd beat the other
 two hands down for performance.
 
 Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
 this is my day in day out operating system).
 
 Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.

What about http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ ?

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:19:54 -0800
Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only problem I had with the
 T43 was the fact it did not have a proper serial port. I was told to use
 some silly USB connector which never worked right.

a z60m here - same , but my serial-over-usb works really well, a prolific
PL-2303 chip. I have the following in my kernel

device  ucom# serial port over USB
device  uplcom  # Prolific PL-2303 - Comsol's USB-Serial port

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:20:44 +0300
John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would say Toshiba ;)

Actually, yes - probably second only to IBMs in quality. #1 for features /
price. I have had more issues with suspend/resume with Tosh than IBMs though.

btw, there's a thread in mobile@ started a few days back on the question. Plus
several over the months, of course :)

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread gb

Thanks Guys,

I think that I might go with the Toshiba as unfortunately the Thinkpad 
seem a bit pricey (I can't stay of the booze any longer :)



cheers

g
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hi,

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, gb wrote:


Thanks Guys,

I think that I might go with the Toshiba as unfortunately the Thinkpad seem a 
bit pricey (I can't stay of the booze any longer :)


I am not sure Toshiba is so good any more. Maybe just a coincidence but we 
use three Ts in our organization. Two have already broken (one mainboard, 
the other graphic card), the third one works but issues sudden, irregular 
beeps which Toshiba has been _unable_ to diagnose for 6 months now! They 
tell us that since it works, then it is nothing serious. I get rather mad 
when I hear that only because we didn't get a second-hand unit but a brand 
new one and I would expect it to shut up and work since it is new and T. 
We're a bit discouraged at the moment with Toshiba.



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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread nicky

I've got myself a Toshiba A100-159.

Some issues: No sound, no Wireless (to be honest, i haven't really 
bothered with trying to fix these two yes).

Sometimes i get some weird acpi errors in my daily output.

It does have one of those 1400xsomething wide screens, which isn't 
supported (yet) with the default XORG ati/radeon drivers. So you might 
want to put that on your check list. (also something i haven't really 
looked into, since i use an external screen 99.9% of the time).


But besides that, it's working quite nicely.

Stable, speedy. The internal SATA driver is supported, the burner works 
nicely, ethernet ok as well. I haven't tried PCMCIA, firewire, but USB 
works like a charm.


Hopes this helps.

gb wrote:

Thanks Guys,

I think that I might go with the Toshiba as unfortunately the Thinkpad 
seem a bit pricey (I can't stay of the booze any longer :)



cheers

g
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread White Hat
On Thursday November 16, 2006 at 06:08:02 (AM)
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 I would expect it to shut up and work

We have that expectation for a lot of our employees;
however, as in your
scenario, it has not panned out.


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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:58:21 +0300
gb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I can't stay of the booze any longer :)
mate, if your laptop purchases depend on your booze expenditure...you drink
some expensive stuff! (or you have some really low priced hardware
providers...which ones? ;) )

or maybe i dont drink as much as I used to...?  :D

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Nathan Vidican

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, gb wrote:


Thanks Guys,

I think that I might go with the Toshiba as unfortunately the 
Thinkpad seem a bit pricey (I can't stay of the booze any longer :)


I am not sure Toshiba is so good any more. Maybe just a coincidence 
but we use three Ts in our organization. Two have already broken (one 
mainboard, the other graphic card), the third one works but issues 
sudden, irregular beeps which Toshiba has been _unable_ to diagnose 
for 6 months now! They tell us that since it works, then it is nothing 
serious. I get rather mad when I hear that only because we didn't get 
a second-hand unit but a brand new one and I would expect it to shut 
up and work since it is new and T. We're a bit discouraged at the 
moment with Toshiba.





I work for several companies, managing their it assets, dealing with 
purchasing, configuration, and maintenance - collectively purchasing a 
few hundred laptops over the passed few years. I've been a FreeBSD since 
the 2.2.1-RELEASE days, and have always had FreeBSD on my personal 
laptop - which changes once a year to a new model, (sparing the IBM 
stinkpads as mentioned below which were completely incapable of booting 
*BSD due to IBM's lack of judgement/research).


Same here - many issues with Toshiba laptops in the lest year or two. 
Stopped even thinking about the IBM Thinkpads - we call them stinkpads; 
had so many issues running BSD on them, in particular the M-series a few 
years back had bios issues as IBM chose *BSD's partition type (165) for 
their hybernation partition; poor excuses and even poorer support from 
IBM led us to cease purchasing their products and to seek elsewhere. 
IBM's official position on the issue, (after months of nagging them), 
was 'we only support windows 2000 on that particular model'. Don't get 
me wrong, IBM makes really good laptops - they take top-notch 
components, piece them all together well - package them up nicely, but 
then they totally screw up the bios and configuration so-as to be 
windows-centric.


In the end, we moved to Compaq (just before the merger with HP), and 
have since never been happier. Using mostly the Compaq Presario and HP 
Pavillion lines now (geared towards home users) we find nothing beats 
them in terms of price/featureset. I'm writing this now from an HP 
Pavillion dv8000-series laptop, (AMD Turion 64 processor,1024mb ram, has 
two hard drives (80gb stock, added 7200rpm 80gb afterwards), 17 
widescreen display, ATI graphics/chipset, wireless, dvd-rw, etc...). It 
dual boots between FreeBSD and Windows Vista 64-bit (for some 
development stuff), never had a problem with it - works great all-around 
and came stock with everything I could want for under $1300 Canadian 
dollars. I have yet to see IBM, Toshiba, or even Dell come close to that 
offering.


Just my two cents - but for what it's worth, I've got the experience and 
numbers to back it up - only had a single unit sent back for repair in 
the last year, and even then was returned fixed as promised in two days.



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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread David Robillard

Hi Folks,

Well I stayed off the beer and other sinful delights for a while (month
or so P:) and have raked together enough cash to buy a new laptop. For
those of you out there with experience what would you advise. The plan
would be for ..unfortunately Windoze (vba stuff for work), Freebsd, and
most likely fedora. I had no problems getting my wireless to
work on the old one using the ndis stuff and freebsd beat the other
two hands down for performance.

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


thanks

Geoff


Hi Geoff,

It's not FreeBSD, but may I suggest an Apple PowerBook running MacOS X
? Or the new MacBook line?

I use a PowerBook G4 under MacOS X 10.4.8 as an administration system
everyday to manage around 50+ FreeBSD servers. I connect to my
server's serial consoles via a USB-to-Serial adapter from Keyspan with
ZTerm. You also have access to a ports-like environement on MacOS X
via http://www.macports.org/ and http://www.darwinports.com/.  It
works great.

My two cents.

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread pete wright

On 11/15/06, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Folks,

Well I stayed off the beer and other sinful delights for a while (month
or so P:) and have raked together enough cash to buy a new laptop. For
those of you out there with experience what would you advise. The plan
would be for ..unfortunately Windoze (vba stuff for work), Freebsd, and
most likely fedora. I had no problems getting my wireless to
work on the old one using the ndis stuff and freebsd beat the other
two hands down for performance.

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.




one site i would suggest is:
http://nycbug.org/index.php?NAV=dmesgd;SQLIMIT=20

it'll allow you to search dmesg log files from various OS/Hardware
combo's.  I know i've put a couple thinkpad entries in there.
hopefully it'll give you a good idea of the hardware support of
various laptops out there.  putting laptop as a search string seems
to pull up a fair amount of hit's.

HTH

-pete


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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Erik Norgaard

g wrote:

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


I'd suggest you do NOT buy a Sony VAIO. The basic stuff works - like the 
screen, harddisk and keyboard - even mouse/touchpad. But then comes the 
trouble.


- I still have unresolved problems with USB
- I still have unresolved problems with ACPI
- Intel Wireless works but linkstate goes up and down
- Battery does not hold what it says: I have never got more than 1:30
  out of it - and they claim more than 3 hours - (I assume with power
  off)

But the screen is really great. So, my conclusion is that it is ok as an 
advanced DVD player/mail reader.


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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Philip Hallstrom

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


I'd suggest you do NOT buy a Sony VAIO. The basic stuff works - like the 
screen, harddisk and keyboard - even mouse/touchpad. But then comes the 
trouble.


[snip]

But the screen is really great. So, my conclusion is that it is ok as an 
advanced DVD player/mail reader.


I can second this and I'm not even using FreebSD (win xp).  Avoid the Sony 
VGN-A790.  Yes the screen is awesome.  But that's it.  Battery life is 52 
minutes (brand new, I timed it, doing absoutely *nothing*. no music, no 
vids, just sitting).


And just sitting, the fan kicks on routinely about every 2 minutes and 
whirs for about a minute then shuts off.  Watching a video kicks it on 
full time.  It's horrific.


Run away :)
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:34:18PM -0800, George Allan wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:
  Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
  (as this is my day in day out operating system).
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
  
  Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.
 
 My vote is for Thinkpads.  A quick search of the archives will bear out
 the popularity of that opinion.
 

I second this vote along with the others who favor the 
ThinkPad.  (Also very much appreciate the heads-up on the VAIO
below... )  I paid $336 for a 400MHz ThinkPad 600E in '03, 
including its upgrades, and it has run 24*7 for nearly 40 months.
It is a bit slow to bring up the larger suites (like firefox
or Abiword); but once in-memory, no complaints.   --I'm still 
at 5.4 but when 6.2 has been running for a few months, I'll
upgrade.  So: good hardware, best software.

That's my dime's worth.

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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-16 Thread perryh
 I'd suggest you do NOT buy a Sony VAIO ...
 - I still have unresolved problems with ACPI
 ...
 - Battery does not hold what it says: I have never got more than 1:30
out of it - and they claim more than 3 hours - (I assume with power
off)

These are very likely related.  It is quite credible for working
ACPI to double battery life, esp. under typical one-person usage
(lots of idle time, when ACPI can put the CPU into powerdown).
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Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-15 Thread g
Hi Folks,

Well I stayed off the beer and other sinful delights for a while (month
or so P:) and have raked together enough cash to buy a new laptop. For
those of you out there with experience what would you advise. The plan
would be for ..unfortunately Windoze (vba stuff for work), Freebsd, and
most likely fedora. I had no problems getting my wireless to
work on the old one using the ndis stuff and freebsd beat the other
two hands down for performance.

Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6 (as
this is my day in day out operating system).

Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.


thanks

Geoff
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Re: Best laptop for Freebsd

2006-11-15 Thread George Allan
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:58:53AM +0300, g wrote:
 Is there any one model or product that would be better for Freebsd 6
 (as this is my day in day out operating system).

http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
 
 Any experiences and or advise would be much appreciated.

My vote is for Thinkpads.  A quick search of the archives will bear out
the popularity of that opinion.

Be prepared first to investigate the hardware on any prospective model,
second, evaluate the support with respect to each and every device, and
finally, spend time and effort configuring things so things work just
right, for increasingly large values of right.  

I believe the investment in time and effort pays off in all sorts of
ways, but chances are you'll end up with a system that you'll consider
indispensible and one that you'll know better than your girlfriend,
wife, or whatever.   I'll leave it to you decide whether that's a good
thing.  ;-)


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Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-14 Thread doug



On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Damian Wiest wrote:


The OP replied off-list with his output from dmesg.  I'm sending it back to the
list in the off-chance that someone knows more about this wireless adapter.

-Damian

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On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:


Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old
Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she
upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.
However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011)
notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate
drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at
the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at
this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with
respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the
process understandable would be much appreciated.

Rem



Can you post the dmesg?

Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably
use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.

-Damian


Thanks for the reply, Damian.  Here is the dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #2: Fri Nov  3 08:22:20 PST 2006
  rem@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REMKERNEL
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (432.98-MHz 586-class CPU)
Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x58c  Stepping = 12
Features=0x8021bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX
AMD Features=0x8800SYSCALL,3DNow
real memory  = 201261056 (191 MB)
avail memory = 187408384 (178 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers)
ACPI disabled by blacklist.  Contact your BIOS vendor.
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0: AcerLabs M1541 (Aladdin-V) PCI host bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0: PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 7 Entries on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Ali M1541 host to AGP bridge mem 0xe000-0xe3ff at device
0.0 on pci0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
pcm0: ESS Solo-1 (unknown vendor) port
0x1080-0x10bf,0x1070-0x107f,0x1060-0x106f,0x10c4
-0x10c7,0x10c0-0x10c3 irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0
cbb0: TI1211 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 10.0 on pci0
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
pci0: simple comms at device 15.0 (no driver attached)
atapci0: AcerLabs M5229 UDMA33 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc
90-0xfc9f at device 16.0 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
pci0: bridge at device 17.0 (no driver attached)
ohci0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller mem
0xfc00-0xfc000fff irq 5 at dev
ice 20.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xcb7ff,0xdc000-0xd on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2
on isa0
fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
speaker0: PC speaker at port 0x61 on isa0
unknown: PNP0c02 can't assign resources (memory)
unknown: PNP0303 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0c02 can't assign resources (memory)
psmcpnp0: irq resource info is missing; assuming irq 12
unknown: PNP0501 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0400 can't assign resources (port)
unknown: PNP0700 can't assign resources (port)
ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 840C, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode
Timecounter TSC frequency 432983113 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
cardbus0: CIS pointer is 0!
cardbus0: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000
cardbus0: network

Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-13 Thread Damian Wiest
The OP replied off-list with his output from dmesg.  I'm sending it back to the
list in the off-chance that someone knows more about this wireless adapter.

-Damian

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On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
  
Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old 
Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she 
upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.  
However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011) 
notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate 
drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at 
the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at 
this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with 
respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the 
process understandable would be much appreciated.

Rem


Can you post the dmesg?

Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably 
use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.

-Damian

  


Thanks for the reply, Damian.  Here is the dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #2: Fri Nov  3 08:22:20 PST 2006
   rem@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/REMKERNEL
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (432.98-MHz 586-class CPU)
 Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x58c  Stepping = 12
 Features=0x8021bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX
 AMD Features=0x8800SYSCALL,3DNow
real memory  = 201261056 (191 MB)
avail memory = 187408384 (178 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers)
ACPI disabled by blacklist.  Contact your BIOS vendor.
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0: AcerLabs M1541 (Aladdin-V) PCI host bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard
pir0: PCI Interrupt Routing Table: 7 Entries on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Ali M1541 host to AGP bridge mem 0xe000-0xe3ff at device 
0.0 on pci0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
pcm0: ESS Solo-1 (unknown vendor) port 
0x1080-0x10bf,0x1070-0x107f,0x1060-0x106f,0x10c4
-0x10c7,0x10c0-0x10c3 irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0
cbb0: TI1211 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 10.0 on pci0
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
pci0: simple comms at device 15.0 (no driver attached)
atapci0: AcerLabs M5229 UDMA33 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc
90-0xfc9f at device 16.0 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
pci0: bridge at device 17.0 (no driver attached)
ohci0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller mem 
0xfc00-0xfc000fff irq 5 at dev
ice 20.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xcb7ff,0xdc000-0xd on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 
on isa0
fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0

Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-11 Thread doug

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Damian Wiest wrote:


On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 08:56:46PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Damian Wiest wrote:


On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:

Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old
Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she
upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.
However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011)
notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate
drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at
the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at
this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with
respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the
process understandable would be much appreciated.

Rem


Can you post the dmesg?

Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably
use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.

-Damian


http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html#WLAN

This indicates the ed driver works for this card.


I don't think so :)  There are _no_ Belkin cards listed in the WLAN
section of that page.

In any case, isn't ed for ethernet nics?

-Damian

yes my bad :(

Posting the dmesg output was a good suggestion. If there is anything useful, the 
guys on this can help interpert it.


If the link to the hardware section does not list your card as I thought the ed 
driver did, try [EMAIL PROTECTED] man -k wireless will give you at 
least a partial list of the wireless drivers. If you can match the chipset, you 
can pick the correct driver.


Sometimes the Linux lists are good sources of information because they also use 
Xorg.


As a last resort, I am pretty sure there is a wrapper that will run windows 
drivers. If you can not get the name from the list archives, the project is 
hosted on the SourceForge site.

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Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-10 Thread Damian Wiest
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old 
 Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she 
 upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.  
 However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011) 
 notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate 
 drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at 
 the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at 
 this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with 
 respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the 
 process understandable would be much appreciated.
 
 Rem

Can you post the dmesg?

Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably 
use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.

-Damian
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Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-10 Thread doug



On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Damian Wiest wrote:


On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:

Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old
Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she
upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.
However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011)
notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate
drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at
the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at
this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with
respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the
process understandable would be much appreciated.

Rem


Can you post the dmesg?

Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably
use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.

-Damian


http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html#WLAN

This indicates the ed driver works for this card.


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Re: Laptop Wireless

2006-11-10 Thread Damian Wiest
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 08:56:46PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Damian Wiest wrote:
 
 On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:57:03AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old
 Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she
 upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.
 However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011)
 notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate
 drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at
 the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at
 this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with
 respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the
 process understandable would be much appreciated.
 
 Rem
 
 Can you post the dmesg?
 
 Assuming that particular device has a working driver, you can probably
 use ifconfig for most of the wireless settings.
 
 -Damian
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html#WLAN
 
 This indicates the ed driver works for this card.

I don't think so :)  There are _no_ Belkin cards listed in the WLAN
section of that page.

In any case, isn't ed for ethernet nics?

-Damian
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Laptop Wireless

2006-11-05 Thread Rem P Roberti
Would someone point me in the right direction here.  I have an old 
Compaq Presario 1692 that my sister-in-law gave to me after she 
upgraded.  I installed FreeBSD 6.1 and everything is working fine.  
However, the laptop also came with a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7011) 
notebook card, and I would like to learn how to install the appropriate 
drivers for the card to work.  I am new to FreeBSD, and have glanced at 
the Handbook section dealing with wireless.  It's a little daunting at 
this time, and I haven't yet been able to make sense out of it with 
respect to this laptop and wireless card.  Any help in making the 
process understandable would be much appreciated.


Rem
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Re: tracking a stolen laptop?

2006-10-07 Thread Erik Norgaard

Jonathan Nichols wrote:

I am trying to track down a stolen laptop. My laptop did not have BSD
downloaded, but is there any way yet by which I may be able to track
my laptop with your help?  I would like to get BSD if I get my
computer back.  Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.


The short answer: no.

Your laptop doesn't phone home unless you configure it to - if it had 
windows maybe call Microsoft, I've heard their computers contact M$ on a 
regular basis.


If you before hand had installed some tool that calls home then it would 
be possible to track it by the ip and possibly routing information it 
uses when it calls. But that's too late now.


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tracking a stolen laptop?

2006-10-06 Thread Jonathan Nichols

I am trying to track down a stolen laptop. My laptop did not have BSD
downloaded, but is there any way yet by which I may be able to track
my laptop with your help?  I would like to get BSD if I get my
computer back.  Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.

Jonathan Nichols
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Re: tracking a stolen laptop?

2006-10-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:04:24PM -0400, Jonathan Nichols wrote:

 I am trying to track down a stolen laptop. My laptop did not have BSD
 downloaded, but is there any way yet by which I may be able to track
 my laptop with your help?  I would like to get BSD if I get my
 computer back.  Thanks for any help or advice you can offer.

It would be difficult.  
But, do  you know the MAC address of the NIC card?
That might help if they get on the net with it.

jerry

 
 Jonathan Nichols
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Re: freeBSD 6.1 how to setup network file sharing on my home network between a win xp box and my BSD Laptop

2006-09-26 Thread hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)

Install it using ports (read the handbook).
On 26 September 2006, at 09:51, Mathew Stahl wrote:


Hi,
I am a BSD newbie.  I have used linux for years from Redhat 7.0 to  
9.0 and SuSE 9.1 to 10.1.  I was able to setup samba very easily on  
redhat 9.0 and below but could never get it to work on SuSE and I  
just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my dell laptop and I am wondering if  
any one has any tips on how to set it up (correctly) so I can share  
files between my win xp Desktop and my BSD laptop over a wireless  
network connection.  Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated!!


Thank you in advance,

Mathew Stahl
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freeBSD 6.1 how to setup network file sharing on my home network between a win xp box and my BSD Laptop

2006-09-26 Thread Mathew Stahl

Hi,
I am a BSD newbie.  I have used linux for years from Redhat 7.0 to 9.0 
and SuSE 9.1 to 10.1.  I was able to setup samba very easily on redhat 
9.0 and below but could never get it to work on SuSE and I just 
installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my dell laptop and I am wondering if any one 
has any tips on how to set it up (correctly) so I can share files 
between my win xp Desktop and my BSD laptop over a wireless network 
connection.  Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated!!


Thank you in advance,

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Realtek High Definition Audio on Asus A6Q Laptop

2006-09-19 Thread Bubbles Bug

Hello:

I installed FreeBSD 6.1 Release on my Asus A6Q Laptop.

There is no built-in driver for Realtek High Definition Audio.

OSS (Open Sound System) can drive it,

but there were some problems.

Gnome's default media player Totem cannot play (device problem).
mp3blaster cannot find device.

XMMS can play normally, but volume control and  balance malfunction.
/dev/mixer exists.
My head phone plugged had no sound.

During the test done by OSS
I can hear music from my head phone.

It seems to be a problem abount switching output channel.
How can I switch it dynamically and easily?

THX
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Re: Realtek High Definition Audio on Asus A6Q Laptop

2006-09-19 Thread Armin Pirkovitsch
Bubbles Bug wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I installed FreeBSD 6.1 Release on my Asus A6Q Laptop.
 
 There is no built-in driver for Realtek High Definition Audio.
 
 OSS (Open Sound System) can drive it,
 
 but there were some problems.
 
 Gnome's default media player Totem cannot play (device problem).
 mp3blaster cannot find device.
 
 XMMS can play normally, but volume control and  balance malfunction.
 /dev/mixer exists.
 My head phone plugged had no sound.
 
 During the test done by OSS
 I can hear music from my head phone.
 
 It seems to be a problem abount switching output channel.
 How can I switch it dynamically and easily?

the channel switching sounds like an oss problem to me imho...
however - some developers currently work on a native driver for HDA
which works fine for me.
You can fetch it at http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/HDA/
you also might want to have a look at
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2006-September/thread.html
and you should probably send further questions to the multimedia list

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Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-08 Thread Parv
Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had
deleted the OP.

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Joel Dahl
thusly...

 On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla
 Wagner wrote:
 
  I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week
...
  Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless
  3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
...

I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work
computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy
(US chain stores).  After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out
to be rather crappy.  When i type -- my typing speed is around 25
wpm  not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the
spring) whine as if they need lubrication  have become rather
loose.

On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a
coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so
ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a
sauce pan.

So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard.

OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working
wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars
at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new
Toshiba Satellite.


  - Parv

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Fwd: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-08 Thread Ivailo Bonev

From: Ivailo Bonev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:52:44 +0300

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:14:26 +0300, Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry for using somebody else's reply to reply to OP as I had
deleted the OP.

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Joel Dahl
thusly...


On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla
Wagner wrote:

 I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week

...

 Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless
 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)

...

I happen to be currently using Toshiba Satellite A105-40xx (work
computer), which cost around $800-900 from Circuit City or Best Buy
(US chain stores).  After few weeks of usage, the keyboard turns out
to be rather crappy.  When i type -- my typing speed is around 25
wpm  not much of a touch typist -- the keys (more likely the
spring) whine as if they need lubrication  have become rather
loose.

On another Toshiba Satellite, about a year old (as overheard from a
coworker; I used it for 2-3 months), Fn key has become so
ridiculously loose it behaves like a loose leaf paper covering a
sauce pan.

So, be mindful of Tecra's keyboard.

OTOH, two year old IBM Thinkpad T42's ($1600) keyboard is working
wonderfully; five old Dell Inspiron 5000e's (a thousand some dollars
at the time) keyboard is still better than above mentioned new
Toshiba Satellite.


  - Parv



And my 2-year Toshiba Portege burned. Sorry Toshiba, but thats the truth.
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hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner
Hi guys,
I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week,
due to budget, time and the fact that I'm near the end of civilization
right now,
I have the following choices:
Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
(802.11a/b/g),  Intel PRO/1000 VE 10/100/1000 Base-TX, FastIR, Intel
GMA950, Realtek ALC861 Audio, 5-in-1 cardreader, FireWire)
or
hp nx6320 (Same specs, except Broadcom NetLink Gig-Ethernet (BCM5788M)
and ADI1981HD audio, no cardreader).

I'll be running 6-Stable on this, with X, Gnome, et al.
Has anyone had any experience (positive or negative) with either of
these machines? Which wired Ethernet works better with FreeBSD?
Is the wireless reliable/unreliable, does it work at all?
Audio? Graphics under X?
What about IR/FireWire, cardreader?
And most importantly, what about power management?


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Re: hp or Toshiba laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Joel Dahl
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 08:38 -0400, Christian Lopez de Castilla Wagner
wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I'm looking into buying a new laptop in the next week,
 due to budget, time and the fact that I'm near the end of civilization
 right now,
 I have the following choices:
 Toshiba Tecra A6-SP3032 (Core Duo 1.83GHz, Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
 (802.11a/b/g),  Intel PRO/1000 VE 10/100/1000 Base-TX, FastIR, Intel
 GMA950, Realtek ALC861 Audio, 5-in-1 cardreader, FireWire)
 or
 hp nx6320 (Same specs, except Broadcom NetLink Gig-Ethernet (BCM5788M)
 and ADI1981HD audio, no cardreader).

I'd go for the HP.  I bought a HP nx7400 2 weeks ago (which has similar
specs) and everything except sound and the wireless stuff seems to work.
A Beta driver for the sound exists and it works well on my laptop, but
it hasn't been committed to current yet.  Dunno about the status of
wireless support, but I heard rumors about a port of the wpi(4) driver
from OpenBSD.

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Dhclient crashes my laptop

2006-08-28 Thread Stremcha, Matthew

If I run dhclient wi0 the lights on the card go out, dhclient reports
failure, and usually locks and reboots the machine.  

I am not sure what information you need, but here is what I have and
what I have learned so far.  I will gladly collect and post any info
that may help.  

PCMCIA NIC card is a 3com airconnect, came with the access point.
Laptop is an IBM ThinkPad 380xd (machine was free, rescued from trash at
work to be a FreeBSD project)
It is always plugged in when in use because the battery has about 5-10
minutes of life.
Installed FreeBSD 6.1.
dmesg shows that the wireless card is found and looks like it configures
ok.
If I enter IP  gateway manually it works.
Tried using the other card slot, same problem.
Tried to start pccardd per the web site, command not found.

I found a post that says to run OLDCARD on this machine, but that's not
in 6.1 and the card is fine until dhclient tries to help.  It's a
project and has no significant documents (I think), so wiping it and
going to a version with OLDCARD can be done if necessary.

After I get this working I may tackle APM so the thing will shut off
when I tell it to.

Thanks,

Matthew Stremcha
Technical Applications Analyst
Sisu Medical Solutions
218.529.7972

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How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)?

2006-08-03 Thread Yousef Raffah
I like to watch movies and clips alot, so a 15.4 is not really and
impressive or a great option, therefore, I wanted to be able to plug my
laptop to the Samsung TV at home through an S-Video cable in order to
watch the movies.

However, I was not able to properly configure xorg.conf and I googled
for S-Video and xorg but most of the results I found were Linux related
(although I doubt it would make a big difference) but none worked with
me. My xorg.conf is appended.

If I connect my laptop to the TV while my X is running and fn+F5 my TV
screen tries to display X but the screen keeps on flickering. I tried
shutting down X, connecting and fn+F5 it works fine but after I start X
again, it keeps on flickering :(

Any help would be really appreciated :)

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  TV RightOf Card0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts_mono
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/AAHS
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/AGA
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/FS
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/Kasr
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/MCS
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kacst_fonts
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/Shmookh
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/
FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts/
FontPath /home/yraffah/fonts
FontPath /usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/type1
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  dbe
#   Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  glx
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  freetype
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc101
Option  XkbLayout us,ar
Option  XkbOptionsgrp:alt_shift_toggle
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section Monitor
#DisplaySize  330   210 # mm
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   CPT
ModelName138a
#   Modeline 1280x800
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  TV
HorizSync   30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option Dac6Bit   # [bool]
#Option Dac8Bit   # [bool]
#Option BusType   # [str]
#Option CPPIOMode # [bool]
#Option CPusecTimeout # i
#Option AGPMode   # i
#Option AGPFastWrite  # [bool]
#Option AGPSize   # i
#Option GARTSize  # i
#Option RingSize  # i
#Option BufferSize# i
#Option EnableDepthMoves  # [bool]
#Option EnablePageFlip# [bool]
#Option NoBackBuffer  # [bool]
#Option PanelOff  # [bool]
#Option DDCMode   # [bool]
#Option MonitorLayout # [str]
#Option IgnoreEDID# [bool]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
#Option VideoKey  # i
#Option MergedFB  # [bool]
#Option CRT2HSync # [str]
#Option CRT2VRefresh  # [str]
#Option CRT2Position  # [str]
#Option MetaModes # [str]
#Option MergedDPI # [str]
#Option NoMergedXinerama  # [bool]
#Option MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0   # [bool]
#Option DisplayPriority   # [str]
#Option

Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)?

2006-08-03 Thread Simon Phoenix
On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:46, Yousef Raffah wrote:
 I like to watch movies and clips alot, so a 15.4 is not really and
 impressive or a great option, therefore, I wanted to be able to plug my
 laptop to the Samsung TV at home through an S-Video cable in order to
 watch the movies.

 However, I was not able to properly configure xorg.conf and I googled
 for S-Video and xorg but most of the results I found were Linux related
 (although I doubt it would make a big difference) but none worked with
 me. My xorg.conf is appended.

 If I connect my laptop to the TV while my X is running and fn+F5 my TV
 screen tries to display X but the screen keeps on flickering. I tried
 shutting down X, connecting and fn+F5 it works fine but after I start X
 again, it keeps on flickering :(

Take a look at the http://gatos.sf.net
Maybe this solve Your problem.

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Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)?

2006-08-03 Thread Yousef Raffah
Peter A. Giessel wrote:
 On 2006/08/03 8:46, Yousef Raffah seems to have typed:

 [snip]

   
 Section Monitor
 Identifier  TV
 HorizSync   30-50
 VertRefresh 60
 EndSection
 

 [snip]

   
 Section Device
 Identifier TV
 Driver  ati
 Option  MonitorLayout TV,LFP
 Option  TVStandard PAL
 Option  TVOutFormat SVIDEO
 Option  ConnectedMonitor TV
 Screen 1
 EndSection
 

 [snip]

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure PAL is 25 fields/sec,
 which corresponds to 50Hz not 60Hz.
   
I really have no idea, what are you suggesting then?

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Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)?

2006-08-03 Thread backyard1454-bsd


--- Yousef Raffah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter A. Giessel wrote:
  On 2006/08/03 8:46, Yousef Raffah seems to have
 typed:
 
  [snip]
 

  Section Monitor
  Identifier  TV
  HorizSync   30-50
  VertRefresh 60
  EndSection
  
 
  [snip]
 

  Section Device
  Identifier TV
  Driver  ati
  Option  MonitorLayout TV,LFP
  Option  TVStandard PAL
  Option  TVOutFormat SVIDEO
  Option  ConnectedMonitor TV
  Screen 1
  EndSection
  
 
  [snip]
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure PAL
 is 25 fields/sec,
  which corresponds to 50Hz not 60Hz.

 I really have no idea, what are you suggesting then?
 
 -- 
 
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As much of a pain as it might sound you should
probably google PAL specs for TV output, get a copy of
The Complete FreeBSD either on the website or the
printed copy in a store, thumb to the X org (free)
section and form a proper Modeline statement for the
screen by following their instructions and using PAL's
spec. Either that or keep googling X org and PAL TV's.
I think it is something with the refresh rates though.
Also the H-sync should prolly be 50 hertz locked as
this seems to be PAL's standard refresh rate. X might
be defaulting to the low end which is causing the
flicker.
It might help to define the resolution you want the
screen to have as well. PAL supports a few different
ones at different levels of fidelity. Again X might go
to the low end of things to be safe which is just
causing the interlacing to occur too slowly and
flicker on you.

good luck

-brian
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Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)?

2006-08-03 Thread backyard1454-bsd

--- Peter A. Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 On 2006/08/03 11:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 seems to have typed:
  Also the H-sync should prolly be 50 hertz locked
 as
  this seems to be PAL's standard refresh rate.
 
 My replies don't show up on the list for some reason
 (something about
 how the freebsd.org servers can't find my server's
 FQDN), but I'm pretty
 sure that he needs to set his VertRefresh to 50 for
 PAL (and I've
 sent him a message as such).
 

I figured as much, I know TV's aren't monitors and so
a range of values didn't seem valid.

Ahhh, your servers don't do a reverse domain name
lookup properly... If they're your servers then you
should be able to fix that. The Complete FreeBSD has
some section on it which is reasonably parsable by
humans... (I kid, I kid gotta learn how to do a DNS
server myself so it's still a little cryptic to me) If
its your ISP I would keep sending them Shame on you
messages until they fix it. I know that reverse domain
lookup is typcially done to help eliminate spam anyway
so you can use that as firepower. if they're using
Mircosoft servers it probably won't be able to be
fixed anytime soon. At least not until Microsoft
starts using standards that don't have their trademark
on it... Although if Mac.com is your domain then Mac
servers would likely be being used, which means its a
variant of BSD anyway and should be just a simple
configuration change on their end...

-brian


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FreeBSD crashes on my laptop...

2006-07-29 Thread Ahmed Parkar

Hello...

I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE (AMD64) on an Acer Ferrari 3400 laptop...
Specs...
Mobile AMD athlon 3000+
128mb ATI radeon 9700...

I install it and everything seems to get detected and all... but then... it
suddenly
crashes... system just shuts down... no error appears on the screen...

Well, this has been consistenly happening generally when I'm installing some
port... Once it was KDE, other times it was Opera and most recently it was
VLC... Once it crashed even when I ran the command find / vimrc. I know
the
syntax of the comand may not be correct, it was just traversing through all
the
directories and it crashed (I was tryin to find the default vimrc file). All
this
when I was running X under window-maker... Also it crashed once when it was
in GNOME and the computer was idle for like 30mins or so and it crashed
(Gnome installs during the installation process, not the ports way)
So, I figure X might be the problem... So the next time I boot, I dont start
X
and I make VLC and it crashes around the same place I expect it to...

Is it the laptop? How can I debug something like this.. get the log files or
somethin
just before the crash...
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Re: FreeBSD crashes on my laptop...

2006-07-29 Thread Matias
First of all, ensure that you are not having a temperature issue check
the cooler of the laptop, maybe it is crossing to the other world...

Ahmed Parkar escribió:

 Hello...
 
 I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE (AMD64) on an Acer Ferrari 3400 laptop...
 Specs...
 Mobile AMD athlon 3000+
 128mb ATI radeon 9700...
 
 I install it and everything seems to get detected and all... but then...
 it suddenly
 crashes... system just shuts down... no error appears on the screen...
 
 Well, this has been consistenly happening generally when I'm installing
 some port... Once it was KDE, other times it was Opera and most recently
 it was VLC... Once it crashed even when I ran the command find / vimrc.
 I know the
 syntax of the comand may not be correct, it was just traversing through
 all the
 directories and it crashed (I was tryin to find the default vimrc file).
 All this
 when I was running X under window-maker... Also it crashed once when it
 was in GNOME and the computer was idle for like 30mins or so and it
 crashed (Gnome installs during the installation process, not the ports
 way) So, I figure X might be the problem... So the next time I boot, I
 dont start X
 and I make VLC and it crashes around the same place I expect it to...
 
 Is it the laptop? How can I debug something like this.. get the log files
 or somethin
 just before the crash...
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Re: FreeBSD crashes on my laptop...

2006-07-29 Thread Derek Ragona

Are the crashes always with X running?  ATI support is not good for X.

-Derek


At 01:15 AM 7/29/2006, Ahmed Parkar wrote:

Hello...

I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE (AMD64) on an Acer Ferrari 3400 laptop...
Specs...
Mobile AMD athlon 3000+
128mb ATI radeon 9700...

I install it and everything seems to get detected and all... but then... it
suddenly
crashes... system just shuts down... no error appears on the screen...

Well, this has been consistenly happening generally when I'm installing some
port... Once it was KDE, other times it was Opera and most recently it was
VLC... Once it crashed even when I ran the command find / vimrc. I know
the
syntax of the comand may not be correct, it was just traversing through all
the
directories and it crashed (I was tryin to find the default vimrc file). All
this
when I was running X under window-maker... Also it crashed once when it was
in GNOME and the computer was idle for like 30mins or so and it crashed
(Gnome installs during the installation process, not the ports way)
So, I figure X might be the problem... So the next time I boot, I dont start
X
and I make VLC and it crashes around the same place I expect it to...

Is it the laptop? How can I debug something like this.. get the log files or
somethin
just before the crash...
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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-20 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello everyone,

 I booted with acpi disabled, it worked.
BUT
I checked with HP, they had bios upgrdae,
I upgraded my bios and guess what??
It boots normal, and works fine,
i donot need to do any additional configuration,the acpi is supported and 
the tempreture

message has gone after bios upgrades,
Thanks for all of you,
really appreciate it.

Marwan



Marwan Sultan wrote:
 thanks for all of you, it was the fbsd boot loader, as eric suggested.
 now its booting,
 BUT :(
 during booting it givis the following error

 Warning: System tempreture too high shutting down soon!
 acpi_tz1: Warning current tempreture (0.0c) exceeds safe limits

 and it shuts down immediatly.
 i checked my bios setup, you know some bios has tempr. option. but this
 laptop
 doesnot have such am option.

The boot menu should allow you to boot without the acpi module, try
that. if your system does not support acpi - or the system acpi is not
supported by freebsd then you might get such errors.

If this works then you just gotta figure out making it default.

cheers erik

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Erik Norgaard

Marwan Sultan wrote:

Well, i have HP laptop dv5178us model.

i installed freebsd 6.1, after installation is complete, it will ask you 
to remove any cd and reboot

till here is fine

after i reboot, it hangs!!
nothing happens! nothing moves!! just blank black dead screen!!
I installed fbsd again, and the same...infact after the installation is 
complete and you remove the cd to restart it wont restart even you have 
to shutoff the laptop and on again..


Anyone can Advice please?


Did you install the boot loader? - which one?

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Marwan Sultan


hello,

Well, I did what im doing since 7 years on desktops! just inserted the cd, 
startedup the laptop
and asked for installation, then the normal procedures, you know? 
partitioning..etc..
when the installation done, i removed the cd and restarted, but the laptop 
freeze..on a black screen, blank, nothing..


Do i have to do any speciall thing during installation,
will you help please?
I dunt know what loader u ment, just the default one?

I wish to run freebsd on my laptop as well its on my desktop since years.

Marwan


Marwan Sultan wrote:

Well, i have HP laptop dv5178us model.

i installed freebsd 6.1, after installation is complete, it will ask you 
to remove any cd and reboot

till here is fine

after i reboot, it hangs!!
nothing happens! nothing moves!! just blank black dead screen!!
I installed fbsd again, and the same...infact after the installation is 
complete and you remove the cd to restart it wont restart even you have to 
shutoff the laptop and on again..


Anyone can Advice please?


Did you install the boot loader? - which one?

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Erik Norgaard

Marwan Sultan wrote:

Well, I did what im doing since 7 years on desktops! just inserted the 
cd, startedup the laptop
and asked for installation, then the normal procedures, you know? 
partitioning..etc..
when the installation done, i removed the cd and restarted, but the 
laptop freeze..on a black screen, blank, nothing..


Do i have to do any speciall thing during installation,
will you help please?
I dunt know what loader u ment, just the default one?


The boot loader is the piece of code that knows where you're OS is. If 
you didn't install it then your system likely just halts because 
whatever there is doesn't know how to boot.


Some options:

You can boot off the install cd and instead of installing specify root 
device etc. This should enable you to boot up your newly installed 
system. If that succeeds you can try to reinstall the boot loader - see 
the handbook and bsdlabel man-page.


You can try to get something up running and install a generic boot 
loader like grub. This should also be possible if you succeed to boot as 
described above but can't get the boot loader working.


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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Robert C Wittig

Marwan Sultan wrote:


hello,

Well, I did what im doing since 7 years on desktops! just inserted the 
cd, startedup the laptop
and asked for installation, then the normal procedures, you know? 
partitioning..etc..
when the installation done, i removed the cd and restarted, but the 
laptop freeze..on a black screen, blank, nothing..


Do i have to do any speciall thing during installation,
will you help please?
I dunt know what loader u ment, just the default one?

I wish to run freebsd on my laptop as well its on my desktop since years.


'Laptop' is a generic term.

Some laptops are built with hardware that is supported by the 
distribution that you are attempting to install, and some laptops are 
not supported by the distribution that you are attempting to install... 
or maybe, if you have a weird laptop, nothing will run on it except 
Windows XP.g


The same is true for desktop machines, but with laptops, it is *much* 
more difficult (or impossible) to swap in hardware that is compatible 
with the distribution you are attempting to install.


Did you do some Googling, to see if your specific laptop is compatible?

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Derek Ragona
Check your BIOS that you don't have protection of the boot block enabled. 
If you do, remove that protection and reinstall.


Some laptops can get stuck, and you have to pull the battery and AC power 
then restore the AC power to get them to restart.


-Derek


At 05:35 PM 7/18/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:

Well, i have HP laptop dv5178us model.

i installed freebsd 6.1, after installation is complete, it will ask you 
to remove any cd and reboot

till here is fine

after i reboot, it hangs!!
nothing happens! nothing moves!! just blank black dead screen!!
I installed fbsd again, and the same...infact after the installation is 
complete and you remove the cd to restart it wont restart even you have to 
shutoff the laptop and on again..


Anyone can Advice please?

Marwan.

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Marwan Sultan

hey guys!

thanks for all of you, it was the fbsd boot loader, as eric suggested.
now its booting,
BUT :(
during booting it givis the following error

Warning: System tempreture too high shutting down soon!
acpi_tz1: Warning current tempreture (0.0c) exceeds safe limits

and it shuts down immediatly.
i checked my bios setup, you know some bios has tempr. option. but this 
laptop

doesnot have such am option.

- Marwan


Check your BIOS that you don't have protection of the boot block enabled. 
If you do, remove that protection and reinstall.


Some laptops can get stuck, and you have to pull the battery and AC power 
then restore the AC power to get them to restart.


-Derek


At 05:35 PM 7/18/2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:

Well, i have HP laptop dv5178us model.

i installed freebsd 6.1, after installation is complete, it will ask you 
to remove any cd and reboot

till here is fine

after i reboot, it hangs!!
nothing happens! nothing moves!! just blank black dead screen!!
I installed fbsd again, and the same...infact after the installation is 
complete and you remove the cd to restart it wont restart even you have to 
shutoff the laptop and on again..


Anyone can Advice please?

Marwan.

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Re: fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-19 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Marwan Sultan wrote:
 hey guys!
 
 thanks for all of you, it was the fbsd boot loader, as eric suggested.
 now its booting,
 BUT :(
 during booting it givis the following error
 
 Warning: System tempreture too high shutting down soon!
 acpi_tz1: Warning current tempreture (0.0c) exceeds safe limits
 
 and it shuts down immediatly.
 i checked my bios setup, you know some bios has tempr. option. but this
 laptop
 doesnot have such am option.

The boot menu should allow you to boot without the acpi module, try
that. if your system does not support acpi - or the system acpi is not
supported by freebsd then you might get such errors.

If this works then you just gotta figure out making it default.

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fbsd 6 didnot work on laptop

2006-07-18 Thread Marwan Sultan

Well, i have HP laptop dv5178us model.

i installed freebsd 6.1, after installation is complete, it will ask you to 
remove any cd and reboot

till here is fine

after i reboot, it hangs!!
nothing happens! nothing moves!! just blank black dead screen!!
I installed fbsd again, and the same...infact after the installation is 
complete and you remove the cd to restart it wont restart even you have to 
shutoff the laptop and on again..


Anyone can Advice please?

Marwan.

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FreeBSD HP Laptop?

2006-07-14 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello everyone,

 I recently bought HP laptop dv5178us Media Center
 It has builtin BlueTooth, wireless network device, lightscribe, and the 
VGA is

 nVIDIA GeForce GO 7400 512mb, s-video, some others 2,
 I'm not sure from motherboard specs,
 I want to format the XP media center edition and install FreeBSD 6.1R with 
kde3


I wonder if someone can advice me and tell, if this specifications is 
compatiable with freebsd

or not, or if i will have any problems with any devices drivers?

I have a button on my keyboard that if pressed will turn the bluetooth and 
wireless network on

and off, is this will work to with fbsd 6.1?

I'm sorry If i will take from someone time to check my specs.

Here is a link may help.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocumentcc=usdocname=c00619266lc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

its the specs for the laptop.

Thank you so much in advance.

 Marwan Sultan.

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Re: FreeBSD HP Laptop?

2006-07-14 Thread Bob
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 06:36 +, Marwan Sultan wrote: 
 Hello everyone,
 
   I recently bought HP laptop dv5178us Media Center
   It has builtin BlueTooth, wireless network device, lightscribe, and the 
 VGA is
   nVIDIA GeForce GO 7400 512mb, s-video, some others 2,
   I'm not sure from motherboard specs,
   I want to format the XP media center edition and install FreeBSD 6.1R with 
 kde3
 
 I wonder if someone can advice me and tell, if this specifications is 
 compatiable with freebsd
 or not, or if i will have any problems with any devices drivers?
 
 I have a button on my keyboard that if pressed will turn the bluetooth and 
 wireless network on
 and off, is this will work to with fbsd 6.1?
 
 I'm sorry If i will take from someone time to check my specs.
 
 Here is a link may help.
 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocumentcc=usdocname=c00619266lc=enjumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
 
 its the specs for the laptop.
 
 Thank you so much in advance.
 
   Marwan Sultan.
 

Maybe this gets you started:
http://www.zapatec.com/freebsd/laptop/
http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
http://bsdlaptops.org/freebsd/fbsd.php

Bob

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FreeBSD 6.1 laptop with wireless internet

2006-05-22 Thread Ivan \Rambius\ Ivanov

Dear Colleagues,

I have a laptop with FreeBSD 6.1 on it and it is working fine. I
recently received a card for wireless internet; it is in fact a
Verizon Wireless PC5740 card and I am wondering if I can set it up on
my FreeBSD laptop.

I googled about it and I found [1] mentioning about some configuration
in the kernel. I also checked the wireless network section in the
Handbook, but I did not make any progress. Could you give me some
hints and advice about this?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Regards
Rambius

P.S. I verified that the card is really working on a Windows laptop.

[1] 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/077555.html

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Install FreeBSD on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop

2006-05-21 Thread Sadashiv Kulthe

Helllo,

I want to Install Linux on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop can anyone tell
me is it compatitable?

Can I install it?


It has following configuration

1) Inspiron E1505, Intel Core Duoprocessor T2300 (2MB/1.66GHz/667MHz)
2) 15.4 Inch Wide-screen WXGA Display for Inspiron 6400/E150
3) 1GB, DDR2, 533MHz 2 Dimm for Inspiron 6400/E1505
4) Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950 GM
5) 80GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505
6) Integrated 10/100 Network Cardand Modem, for Inspiron
7) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card (54Mbps), for for Inspiron
6400/E1505

8) Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR) for Inspiron 6400/E1505
9) 8X DVD+/-RW Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505

10) Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, English without Media,
for Inspiron

Thanks and Regards,

Sadashiv
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Re: Install FreeBSD on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop

2006-05-21 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Helllo,
 
 I want to Install Linux on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop can anyone tell
 me is it compatitable?

Your Subject said you want to install FreeBSd on the laptop.
It should work OK.

But, you should know that FreeBSD is not LINUX or related to LINUX.
It is a UNIX type Operating System derived from the BSD family of UNIX.
LINUX is an OS somewhat related to the SVR4 family of UNIX.

FreeBSD is a superior Open Source, Freely available UNIX OS.
It is especially suitable for network server work, but it works
well in almost all situations needing a high quality UNIX environment.

Give it a try.  After some early work on learning the system, you will
likely find it very rewarding and useful.

jerry

 
 Can I install it?
 
 
 It has following configuration
 
 1) Inspiron E1505, Intel Core Duoprocessor T2300 (2MB/1.66GHz/667MHz)
 2) 15.4 Inch Wide-screen WXGA Display for Inspiron 6400/E150
 3) 1GB, DDR2, 533MHz 2 Dimm for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 4) Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950 GM
 5) 80GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 6) Integrated 10/100 Network Cardand Modem, for Inspiron
 7) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card (54Mbps), for for Inspiron
 6400/E1505
 
 8) Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR) for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 9) 8X DVD+/-RW Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 
 10) Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, English without Media,
 for Inspiron
 
 Thanks and Regards,
 
 Sadashiv
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Re: Install FreeBSD on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop

2006-05-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 21 May 2006 at 17:25:38 -0700, Sadashiv Kulthe wrote:
 Helllo,

 I want to Install Linux on Dell Inspiraon E1505/ 6400 laptop can
 anyone tell me is it compatitable?

As others have observed, Linux and FreeBSD are two different operating
systems.  You certainly need to decide which (and if it's Linux, which
version of Linux).

 It has following configuration

 1) Inspiron E1505, Intel Core Duoprocessor T2300 (2MB/1.66GHz/667MHz)

I've never heard a model number like E1505 before.  Is this different
from the standard Inspiron 6400?

 2) 15.4 Inch Wide-screen WXGA Display for Inspiron 6400/E150

I don't know what WXGA means; my Inspiron 6100 has a 1920x1200
display.

 3) 1GB, DDR2, 533MHz 2 Dimm for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 4) Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950 GM

My machine has an ATI Radeon chipset, and I can install X on it,
though I still have trouble with external projectors.  I don't expect
any particular problems with the Intel chip set.

 5) 80GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505
 6) Integrated 10/100 Network Cardand Modem, for Inspiron

Probably Broadcom, like the other Inspirons.

 7) Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card (54Mbps), for for Inspiron
 6400/E1505

Probably the same as on my machine.  You'll need to install the
iwicontrol port and download the card firmware from the net.  I didn't
get mine to work properly with older releases than 6.1.

 8) Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR) for Inspiron
 6400/E1505

I have no experience with this.

 9) 8X DVD+/-RW Drive for Inspiron 6400/E1505

 10) Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, English without Media,
 for Inspiron

That won't work with FreeBSD or Linux.

Basically, you should have no difficulty installing both FreeBSD and
Linux on the machine; that's what I've done.  Older versions of X,
including those delivered with some current Linux distributions, have
difficulty recognizing the screen format, though they can be
configured to handle it.

Greg
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wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and there in my
flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One beautiful day, i
decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said that my
p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan. I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
anything.

My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine, with ssh
Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps on that
desktop-pc.

My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with standalone
X  few apps just to survive if
my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives any
advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as it is
my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires with
wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out and
use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one could
intrude into my system.

If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc also.. and
that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i dont believe
that as a minor threat :)

Lasse
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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread albi
Lars Udo wrote:

 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as
 it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.
 
 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one could
 intrude into my system.

FreeNX uses ssh already, and you can enable SSL in it also, so it sounds
to me that it's a matter of restricting access from and to your wireless
(ip-address/mac-address e.g.)

(if you're really paranoid : WEP is cracked already, and certain setups
of WPA are also not so secure :-)

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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

Security is no problem to me, but the problem that i'm most worried is my
budjet. If my laptop cant run wlan (for some weird reason that linux guy
couldnt even name) so all the effort would be worthless.

2006/5/7, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Lars Udo wrote:

 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with
standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it gives
any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd as
 it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the wires
with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it out
and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead? Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough
if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no one
could
 intrude into my system.

FreeNX uses ssh already, and you can enable SSL in it also, so it sounds
to me that it's a matter of restricting access from and to your wireless
(ip-address/mac-address e.g.)

(if you're really paranoid : WEP is cracked already, and certain setups
of WPA are also not so secure :-)

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Fwd: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Hunter Fuller

Forgot to reply to list :X

Begin forwarded message:


From: Hunter Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 May, 2006 9:08:33 AM GMT
To: Lars Udo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wlan on lowend laptop


On  07 May 2006, at 9:19 AM, Lars Udo wrote:

i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and  
there in my

flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One  
beautiful day, i
decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said  
that my

p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan.
Lies, all lies! My P200/32mB RAM with 6.0-RELEASE acts as an AP or  
a client with WEP, WPA, etc with no issues.

I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
anything.

My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine,  
with ssh

Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps  
on that

desktop-pc.

Good idea, does it lag at all? I'm thinking of configuring that.


My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with  
standalone

X  few apps just to survive if
my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it  
gives any
advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with  
freebsd as it is

my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the  
wires with
wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it  
out and

use IPsec, or ssh instead?

If you're really having issues... then yeah.

Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no  
one could

intrude into my system.
Depends if you live around people or in the middle of nowhere. The  
latter is the case for me, so I don't worry about security.


If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc  
also.. and
that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i  
dont believe

that as a minor threat :)

It'd be fine, you just  need proper firewalls, anti-virus, etc.


Lasse
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Re: wlan on lowend laptop

2006-05-07 Thread Lars Udo

2006/5/7, Hunter Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



On  07 May 2006, at 9:19 AM, Lars Udo wrote:

 i have a litlle problem with all these wires running here and there
 in my
 flat, and as i got a woman living here with me.. i cant stand her
 complaining about those ugly wires allover the house. One beautiful
 day, i
 decided to get involved with wlan. But this one linux-dude said
 that my
 p233mmx/64ram couldnt run wlan.
Lies, all lies! My P200/32mB RAM with 6.0-RELEASE acts as an AP or a
client with WEP, WPA, etc with no issues.



Thanks for your opinion :)


I dont know if he ment WAP/WEP-encryption as
 he couldnt be any spesific and that got me thinking if he even knows
 anything.

 My setup these days is following: 1Ghz/256ddr (Desktop mahcine,
 with ssh
 Xforwarding) via 10Mbit LAN,
 and my laptop just happens to get a lot faster when i run all apps
 on that
 desktop-pc.
Good idea, does it lag at all? I'm thinking of configuring that.



Yes it lags a little, but nothing compared for opera running natively
on laptop. Normally, websites
renders pic by pic.. but with this configuration, it all just jumps on
the screen instantly
after short period time of 'thinkin' which is about 1sec. I think that
100Mbit would be a great improvement.



 My desktop is FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE and laptop has NetBSD 3.0 with
 standalone
 X  few apps just to survive if
 my desktop-pc is down. I'm planning to change into FreeNX if it
 gives any
 advantage, but that would require to replace my laptop with freebsd
 as it is
 my favorite OS that has FreeNX client.

 Is it possible to keep up with this setup with changin all the
 wires with
 wireless-future. If WAP/WEP is the problem, couldn i just leave it
 out and
 use IPsec, or ssh instead?
If you're really having issues... then yeah.
 Or is WAP/WEP mandatory, or is it just enough if
 i set tight firewall-rules on both ends of wlan with IPsec, so no
 one could
 intrude into my system.
Depends if you live around people or in the middle of nowhere. The
latter is the case for me, so I don't worry about security.

 If all goes well, my next sted would be to include one windows-pc
 also.. and
 that would need firewall for local wlan-crackers but somehow i dont
 believe
 that as a minor threat :)
It'd be fine, you just  need proper firewalls, anti-virus, etc.

 Lasse
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Re: USB Mouse on Laptop

2006-05-03 Thread M.Stegenburgs
Hi,

moused_type=auto
works nice on my Toshiba.
Well, it does not map all the buttons of my Logitech trackball, but basic 
functions switches on the fly.

Regards,
Maris

On Wed, 3 May 2006 01:27:18 +
Jonathan Herriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I currently just fixed moused to start up using my laptop's mousepad in
 /etc/rc.conf using the following options:
 
 moused_enable=YES
 moused_port=/dev/psm0
 moused_flags= #This is another problem of mine, I can't get the four
 extra buttons on my mousepad to work because I don't know what to specify
 with -z, but this isn't the point of this post
 moused_type=ps/2
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USB Mouse on Laptop

2006-05-02 Thread Jonathan Herriott

Hi!

I currently just fixed moused to start up using my laptop's mousepad in
/etc/rc.conf using the following options:

moused_enable=YES
moused_port=/dev/psm0
moused_flags= #This is another problem of mine, I can't get the four
extra buttons on my mousepad to work because I don't know what to specify
with -z, but this isn't the point of this post
moused_type=ps/2

so after booting and hooking up my USB mouse, I type:


ps -aux | grep moused

root  1019  0.0  0.1  1208   752  ??  Is8:32PM   0:00.00 moused -p
/dev/psm0 -t ps/2
root  1275  0.0  0.2  1208   784  ??  Ss8:54PM  
0:00.12/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t ps/2 -I

/var/run/moused.ums0.pid

So, I can tell that it is using the same defaults that I specified in my
/etc/rc.conf file, but I can't figure out how to differentiate between the
two in /etc/rc.conf.  I tried running usbd -vd to figure out what the device
information, so I could enter it into /etc/usbd.conf file:

device Basic Optical Mouse, Microsoft
   vendor  0x045e
   product 0x0084
   release 0x
   attach '/usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/${DEVNAME} -t auto -z 4 5 -I
/var/run/moused.${DEVNAME}.pid'

Which when I kill everything and run usbd and attach my device again, I
still get the same output from ps -aux | grep moused.  Also, I noticed while
I killed usbd, I can still attach my usb mouse, so where should I be looking
in order to get my usb mouse to attach differently than stated in my
rc.conffile?

Thanks,
Jon
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Re: Which Laptop for FreeBSD

2006-04-12 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:30:03 -0400
fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 This question was just covered in great detail last 2 weeks.
 Check the archives for subject What laptop do you recommend?
 
 Secondly, you should first search the archives for answers to
 your questions before posting to this list.
 
 http://freebsd.rambler.ru/  us this url to search archives.
 

it was in the  -mobile list :
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2006-March/008016.html

I sent an update with some details on what I went with a few days ago.

Beto (writing this on a Toshiba Tecra A2 laptop)
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Re: [Solved] Official Nvidia Drivers, Toshiba Laptop, GeForce 4440 Cards: Always causes Freeze

2006-04-08 Thread C. Michailidis
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 Sean Murphy wrote:
 I have finally come up with a way to use the official drivers

That's great news Sean, kudos! I would suggest that it's more appropriate to 
use the x11/nvidia-driver port, e.g.:

cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver
sudo make install clean

Then set your tunables (i.e hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs and 
hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile) via '/etc/sysctl.conf'.

Finally, you would apply the changes to xorg.conf as you recommend.

The nvidia readme file for their freebsd driver mentions this in the section 
titled 'CONFIGURING LOW-LEVEL PARAMETERS'.  Regardless, using ports to 
install things and sysctl.conf to control the low-level parameters is more 
traditional.

Of course the beauty of FLOSS systems is you can solve problems in a way that 
works best for your particular situation ;-)

Just a suggestion,
Dino
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[Solved] Official Nvidia Drivers, Toshiba Laptop, GeForce 4 440 Cards: Always causes Freeze

2006-04-07 Thread Sean Murphy

   I have finally come up with a way to use the official drivers from
   nvidia on Toshiba notebooks with a GeForce4 440 Go (and similar) video
   card.  Normally, using either linux or freebsd and the drivers from
   nvidia (instead of the default nv driver) would result in a hard
   freeze as soon as X was started.  I gave up trying to fix it, but then
   came across a solution for Linux last night, which I used as a basis
   for this FreeBSD solution...
   First of all, much credit goes to [1]this [2]information from the
   Ubuntu Document Storage Facility (check out Problem 8 at the
   bottom).
   Here's how I applied the same modifications to a FreeBSD system:
   The first step under Linux was to change some options in the nvidia
   kernel, which was done in Linux under /etc/modprobe.conf (or
   /etc/modprobe.d).  FreeBSD doesn't use modprobe, which I believe is
   used for the loading of a kernel module.
   Instead, we can modify the option in the source for nvidia's drivers,
   and then compile the nvidia kernel module with this already set the
   way we want:
   1. First, download the [3]latest[4] nvidia source here.  Extract (tar
   zxvf NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-8178.tar.gz) and move into the newly
   created directory.

   2.  Edit /src/nvidia_os_registry.c using your fav text editor:

   Change the values of the following variables:
   - NVreg_SoftEDIDs = 0 (was 1)
   - NVreg_Mobile = 1 (was ~0)
   Save nvidia_os_registry.c and exit.
   3. I didn't want linux compatability built into my nvidia kernel
   module, so I changed the following:
   Comment out (or undefine) this line:
   #define NV_SUPPORT_LINUX_COMPAT
   4.  Under the NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-8178 directory, compile and
   install the drivers:
   make install
   5.  Finally, this part is identical to the linux instructions.  We
   need to make some tweaks to xorg.conf (and tell X to use the nvidia
   drivers also):
   Your device directive should have something similar to:
   Section Device
   IdentifierNVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go]
   Drivernvidia
   BusIDPCI:1:0:0
Option RenderAccel true
   Option AllowGLXWithComposite true
   OptionIgnoreEDIDtrue
   OptionIgnoreEdidFreqstrue
   OptionGenerateRTList0
   OptionOverridePolarity1
   EndSection
   That's all!  This time when you startx with the real nvidia drivers,
   it won't crash.  This is tested to work on both of my Toshiba
   laptops.  If there are any errors in this howto, feel free to correct
   it!  Now, us toshiba users can have 3d acceleration along with support
   for OpenGL  :).
   Hope this helps someone!
   - Murph

References

   1. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
   2. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
   3. http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-8178.html
   4. http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-8178.html
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Re: [Solved] Official Nvidia Drivers, Toshiba Laptop, GeForce 4 440 Cards: Always causes Freeze

2006-04-07 Thread Sean Murphy

Sorry for the formatting of my solution...a few things got mangled up.

For easier reading, check out my post on freebsdforums.org.

- Murph
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Re: [Solved] Official Nvidia Drivers, Toshiba Laptop, GeForce 4 440 Cards: Always causes Freeze

2006-04-07 Thread Sean Murphy


On Apr 7, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:


Sorry for the formatting of my solution...a few things got mangled up.

For easier reading, check out my post on freebsdforums.org.

- Murph


I'm having a conversation with myself here...three posts to get this  
right :)


You can find the post at http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/ 
showthread.php?t=40336.
(freebsd.org was supposed to be a link last message, but didn't  
work right)

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Which Laptop for FreeBSD

2006-04-06 Thread David Schulz

Hello all,

i would like to buy a new Laptop in the very near future, and of course 
it has to run my favourite OS. I have never searched for a Laptop, and 
now that i did i am overwhelmed with the confusing variety of different 
Brands and Models. One of the big Questions i am having is; Should i 
look for a 64 bit Laptop or better not? I am just not sure wheter or not 
64bit will come trough this year on Laptops, and how well is it (and 
will it be) supported by FreeBSD. I know that there are some Internet 
Sites which try to maintain some data about linux / unix on laptops, but 
i found them to be quite outdated. I am looking for a Workstation 
replacement kind of Laptop, and it must have a DVI out for my Monitor. I 
kind of would like to go with 64bit, since its supposedly the future, if 
this isnt quite the time for 64bit Laptops yet, please someone educate me.


If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop (Price is 
not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me know, i would most 
appreciate it.


Thanks and best regards,
David
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RE: Which Laptop for FreeBSD

2006-04-06 Thread fbsd_user


This question was just covered in great detail last 2 weeks.
Check the archives for subject What laptop do you recommend?

Secondly, you should first search the archives for answers to
your questions before posting to this list.

http://freebsd.rambler.ru/  us this url to search archives.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David
Schulz
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:36 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Which Laptop for FreeBSD


Hello all,

i would like to buy a new Laptop in the very near future, and of
course
it has to run my favourite OS. I have never searched for a Laptop,
and
now that i did i am overwhelmed with the confusing variety of
different
Brands and Models. One of the big Questions i am having is; Should i
look for a 64 bit Laptop or better not? I am just not sure wheter or
not
64bit will come trough this year on Laptops, and how well is it (and
will it be) supported by FreeBSD. I know that there are some
Internet
Sites which try to maintain some data about linux / unix on laptops,
but
i found them to be quite outdated. I am looking for a Workstation
replacement kind of Laptop, and it must have a DVI out for my
Monitor. I
kind of would like to go with 64bit, since its supposedly the
future, if
this isnt quite the time for 64bit Laptops yet, please someone
educate me.

If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop (Price
is
not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me know, i would
most
appreciate it.

Thanks and best regards,
David
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Re: Which Laptop for FreeBSD

2006-04-06 Thread David Kelly


On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:35 AM, David Schulz wrote:

If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop  
(Price is not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me  
know, i would most appreciate it.


Apple released Boot Camp for their Intel based machines yesterday. I  
don't doubt it will be long before someone tries to install FreeBSD  
on Apple's new hardware. Meanwhile with a MacBook Pro you'd have a  
commercially supported Unix also too.


I'm rather impressed with my MacBook:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {39} uname -a
Darwin Laptop.local 8.6.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.1: Tue Mar  7  
16:55:45 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.9.22.obj~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386



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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Wesley Morgan

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
well be wrong...)

Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
fully working ?


I'm a huge Toshiba fan, and a HUGE fan of the touchpoint/accupoint 
devices. As of yesterday I replaced my Satellite Pro 6000 with a new 
M5-S433. Speaking for -current, not -stable, it boots fine, detects the 
gig ethernet with the em driver, serial port, usb, touchpad (bleh!), etc 
work fine. The ATA driver is identified as a GENERIC ATA controller and 
the drive is listed as UDMA33, which is either incorrect (the drive is 
SATA, I've removed it) or it's just using a SATA-PATA bridge internally. 
X11 starts up with the nv driver just fine, right now it's humming away 
beside me installing KDE. The only things that do not work are the builtin 
wireless, which should have a driver soon, and the sound, which I hope 
will also have some support soon!


I have had a couple of quirks -- several times it has booted up but the 
ATA driver never saw the HD, but a reboot later it was finding it just 
fine. I also had trouble getting it to attach to an atheros card I was 
inserting, but I think that was related to the BIOS setting for device 
resource allocation rather than a kernel problem. Once i've had it a 
little longer I'll drop in on the -multimedia list and see if I can spur a 
little work on the sound. Everything else seems in order.



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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST)
Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everything else seems in order.

Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI?

btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report?

cheers,
Beto
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Wesley Morgan

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST)
Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Everything else seems in order.


Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI?

btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report?


I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and 
glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupied 
with something else and 815 when both are idle.


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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:01:04 +1100
David Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12 one with built-in
 wireless.
thx for your time :)

B
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
 From: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
 
  On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
   WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
   
   ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
   PATA / SATA with no problems
 
 I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).

From my T43:
atapci0: Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on pci0
Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA chip for
the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a docking station.

 
   all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
   touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/
 suspend/resume causes lockup.  You would need to pick either dri or
 suspend/resume.
 
 If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
 you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
 I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
 (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
 router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
 every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
 message.

iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it locks
up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get it back,
so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also fairly new
firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

   Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 Can't say about Thinkpad on that.

I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, but
I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

   From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
   do DELLs
   (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
   Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
 store).  On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards
 are buggered up, mainly on the right side.  Keys were shifted around
 or had really unusual area of key caps.  What is amazing about the
 messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on
 the sides (owning to the wider screen)  in front of the keyboard.

FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
brighter than my trusty T30.

  What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
 
 People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
 Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
 present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).
 
 
  Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
 
 T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
 
 
  (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
 
 Yes, some Dell Inspiron.

My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still not
robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is from her
as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, though!

For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the T
series. 
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
  From: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
  
   On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to
work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
PATA / SATA with no problems
  
  I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).
 
 From my T43:
 atapci0: Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller port
 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on
 pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA
 chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a
 docking station.

yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA
drives.

  If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
  you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
  I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
  (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
  router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
  every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
  message.
 
 iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
 past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
 colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it
 locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get
 it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also
 fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint
it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before
suspend...) . No problems at all while running. 

Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
  
  Can't say about Thinkpad on that.
 
 I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
 other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route,
 but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

I know :) 

What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops (Turin ? ) :
any good experiences there anyone?

From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
do DELLs
(though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
  
  Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
  store). 

yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT.

 
 FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
 brighter than my trusty T30.
 
   What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
  
  People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
  Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
  present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).
  
  
   Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
  
  T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
  
  
   (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
  
  Yes, some Dell Inspiron.
 
 My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still
 not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is
 from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display,
 though!
 
 For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
 series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
 touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the
 T series. 

yeah i'm running the features vs numbers job atm...

Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as
well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great
experiences with those laptops with Linux.

BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as
needed, of course ;)

Beto
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What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread freebsd
hi everyone,
I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
PATA / SATA with no problems
all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
(though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
but I don't think they are so well supported.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

Best regards,
Beto

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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread andy


On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.

 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

 Best regards,
 Beto

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I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking
for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone
to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:

I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking
for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone
to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products.


take a look at the P-series from Fujitsu.

I ran FreeBSD on a P2120. It was pretty good with the exception of 
battery life. The new P7xxx series used the Pentium M as a CPU which is 
better supported by FreeBSD.


Erich
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Marcin Jessa
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
 DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

I've Thinkpad R50e. Everything works fine and it makes an excellent
work tool :
http://www.yazzy.org/configs/freebsd/thinkpad/

Price of those thinkpads is yet another pluss.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Mon, 13 Mar 2006 it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED] composed:

 I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.

Do you have the wireless working too on that model, the integrated
chip?

TIA
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.

I have a new Lenovo (IBM) T43 (266875U) that is working well.

If you get an integrated A/B/G card, it's Athros based and works very
well with FreeBSD and the wpa_supplicant.  The internal Winmodem is
useless, though. The GE is a Broadcom which works well. Graphics is an
ATI Radeon, so you will want to have Radeontool to turn it off.

ACPI has no problems and, if you load acpi_ibm, it provides lots of
features. Sound is snd_ich and works fine. I disable the touchpad, so I
really can't say much about it. If the touchpad is disabled, it has a 3
button mouse.

I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running
X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty, it
does resume, but the display characters are garbage.  vidcontrol mode
80x25 fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into rc.resume.

It's only a 2GHz Pentium-M, though. The new T60s are Core Duo systems,
but we don't have one, yet. One was just ordered last week, so I hope to
get to play with one soon.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:29 -0800
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running
 X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty,
 it does resume, but the display characters are garbage.  vidcontrol
 mode 80x25 fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into
 rc.resume.

Thanks for the info. I had a similar issue with suspend/resume from
within X (using APM though), using my Toshiba Tecra A2.


hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1

fixed it. i get some garbling in some semitransparent aterm windows,
but nothing major at all.

Beto
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
 DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)
 
 Best regards,
 Beto

What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
well be wrong...)

Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
fully working ?


thx
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
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  hi everyone,
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD?  any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.
I have this notebook as well. It is very nice and works with every OS I've 
ever tried (Linux Fedora, FreeBSD, BeOS...). I do believe, however, it's been 
replaced by the R52 model, but it has basically the same hardware.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread David Dean
mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12 one with built-in wireless.

I'm using the fantastic iwi-firmware (so yes, the wireless works), and
855patch to get 1280x800 (the native res of the lcd) working. I have a
very quick document on what I did to get that going at
http://bratdot.info/cub1cle/projects/700m/

Accelerated graphics have never worked, but I just run Konsoles and
Kmail .. so I dont miss it.

The winmodem doesnt work, but thats about it.

I havent missed anything else that didnt work 'out of the box' on 6. I
ran 5.4 on there for a while as well, and the only thing I had to add
was UHCI to the generic kernel (so I could do backups before the
heat-death of the universe).

YMMV, but they are cheap, small and light.

-David

On 3/14/06, Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hi everyone,
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
  ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
  PATA / SATA with no problems
  all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
  touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
  Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
  From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
  DELLs
  (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
  but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
  Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)
 
  Best regards,
  Beto

 What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
 bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
 well be wrong...)

 Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
 fully working ?


 thx
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...

 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
  
  ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
  PATA / SATA with no problems

I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).


  all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
  touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/
suspend/resume causes lockup.  You would need to pick either dri or
suspend/resume.

If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
(net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
message.


  Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

Can't say about Thinkpad on that.


  From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
  do DELLs
  (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
  Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.

Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
store).  On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards
are buggered up, mainly on the right side.  Keys were shifted around
or had really unusual area of key caps.  What is amazing about the
messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on
the sides (owning to the wider screen)  in front of the keyboard.


 What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?

People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).


 Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.

T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.


 (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)

Yes, some Dell Inspiron.


  - Parv

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Re: gmirror on a laptop.

2006-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3/11/06, Patrick Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List;

 I wanted to fiddle around with gmirror(8) on a Dell C-600 Laptop. It has
 a 2-slice, 20 Gig HD, and I essentially wanted to mirror ad0s1 to ad0s2.
 I realize this will put the HD under stress, but otherwise it seems do-able.

 What I want to know is whether this is such an incredibly bad idea I
 shouldn't even consider it --or-- it seems like a good way to get
 familiar with gmirror, so go for it.

Besides slowing down your I/O, it shouldn't be a huge deal.
I don't know that there's a whole lot to learn about gmirror,
but in the interest of furthering debate, I've done more than
a little bit of learning in those areas thanks to the joys of
qemu.  It does have the advantage of not trashing your desktop
if you should do something horribly silly, as I would admit to
being wont.

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Re: gmirror on a laptop.

2006-03-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
Patrick Bowen wrote:
 I wanted to fiddle around with gmirror(8) on a Dell C-600 Laptop. It has
 a 2-slice, 20 Gig HD, and I essentially wanted to mirror ad0s1 to ad0s2.
 I realize this will put the HD under stress, but otherwise it seems
 do-able.
 
 What I want to know is whether this is such an incredibly bad idea I
 shouldn't even consider it --or-- it seems like a good way to get
 familiar with gmirror, so go for it.

If you want to do this for the sake of practice, by all means, feel free.

However, mirroring onto the same device is going to result in almost no benefit
to reliability and will cause a very large performance hit, as well as reducing
the usable amount of disk space in half.  (In other words, actually leaving the
machine set up that way would be an incredibly bad idea.)

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