[LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** Re: Windows 11 & Legacy Family Tree

[Jack Earnshaw]

I've had Windows 11 for quite a while and Legacy 9 runs fi e. No issues at all.On 30 May 2022 21:07, Margaret Gagliardi  wrote:I just updated one of my laptops to Windows 11 and would like to know if anyone has had any issues using Windows 11 with it. If so, what, so I can check it out on my end.ThanksMargaret
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[LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** Re: Double MRIN Numbers

[Jack Earnshaw]

Although not in this case, but it can be perfectly OK to have 2 MRINS for one couple.I have a couple where they got married twice within 6 weeks. Not found the reason yet, but likely there was an error in the pro ess of the first marriage. There again a couple might divorce and later remarry (make your mind up time!)On 28 May 2022 19:53, hpeterj...@cox.net wrote:CindyCheck out both marriages after inspection, see which one to unlink couple in.Henry  From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of Cindy CusterSent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 12:52 PMTo: Legacy Users Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Double MRIN NumbersImportance: High  Somehow I have two different MRIN numbers for the same couple (same two RIN numbers). I have different info in each MRIN.How can I delete the incorrect MRIN without affecting the RIN entries?-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Using "Windows Eleven" With Legacy Version 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

I have no problems and have been using W11 for a couple of months now with LFT9.Some say they won't upgrade until it stabilises, after some updates - but no evidence of any issues affecting LegacyOn 20 Dec 2021 23:56, Thomas Cox  wrote:Hello all,
I seem to recall some discussion in the recent past about whether Legacy 
would run seamlessly on Windows 11.  I don't recall though what the 
consensus of the responders was regarding using Windows 11 with the 
Legacy program.  I am considering replacing my old computer with a new 
one.  This new computer comes with Windows 11 already installed.  I am 
suddenly a little hesitant to jump into the new computer fearing 
problems with software malfunctions or worse, losing my genealogy data.  
I would welcome any comments from  folks who have any experience using 
Windows 11 with the Legacy program.
Thank you.
Thomas Cox
cayuse...@comcast.net
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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Defender

[Jack Earnshaw]

I finally cured the issue of not seeing the Legacy News or Updates on the
Home Page - thanks to lots of help/suggestions from Legacy Support.
The issue finally turned out to be an unknown setting in Internet Explorer
that was blocking Legacy from making a call to IE. I went into the Settings
and on every possible page I pressed the "Reset" button - there were quite a
few. After that everything worked again.
No idea why this happened as I never use IE and hadn't changed any settings
for years. Whether there was a small change in the way Legacy called IE for
the Home Page, or whether it was related to the "1909" update to Windows 10
is a mystery. But glad everything works again. 
Note - changing the browser in Legacy options 11.1 makes no difference,
since the home page access always uses IE via a system call.

Like Ian, I only use Windows Defender now as it is considered to offer
better protection. But it isn't always very easy to "tweak"

Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: 23 January 2020 01:58
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Defender

That is a precautionary feature of Windows / Windows Defender - which you
have correctly responded to, Jack.

Windows Defender gives that response to any executable / installer that
hasn't been "marked" to enable an "over-ride". You can make an alteration to
Windows that always allows an installer to go ahead - but clicking to allow
installation is seldom a worry or inconvenience to me, so I leave things as
they are. 

Long ago (7 years+) I abandoned all the paid anti-malware products, and the
free versions like AVG, because Windows for a long time has had more than
adequate protection via its built-in products, especially since Windows
8/8.1/10. 

But in my opinion, anyone persisting with Windows 7 is foolhardy. 

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 7:18 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

Went to the Legacy web site and downloaded the update. Windows wouldn't run
it as was blocked by Windows Defender. Managed to override this by "run
anyway". Updated OK, but won't allow any access to the internet when
running. Presumably there is a setting in Windows Defender that needs to be
altered. Tried a couple of them but these haven't cured it.
Any ideas?
Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: 22 January 2020 22:48
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

I can't "check for updates" as the program says I am not connected to the
internet. Same for Legacy News on the home page. I am connected and even
restarted my machine in case there was a glitch. Is there a problem at the
Legacy end?

Jack




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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Defender

[Jack Earnshaw]

Thanks for your comments - .339 installed OK and running, but still can't
see Legacy News on Home Page "Make sure you are connected to the internet
and then click here to retrieve the latest news items.". Similarly, Check
for Updates won't work as it tells me (eventually) that I need to be
connected to the internet. 
Using Windows 10 vsn 1909, and only Windows Security running as security
package

Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: 23 January 2020 01:58
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Windows Defender

That is a precautionary feature of Windows / Windows Defender - which you
have correctly responded to, Jack.

Windows Defender gives that response to any executable / installer that
hasn't been "marked" to enable an "over-ride". You can make an alteration to
Windows that always allows an installer to go ahead - but clicking to allow
installation is seldom a worry or inconvenience to me, so I leave things as
they are. 

Long ago (7 years+) I abandoned all the paid anti-malware products, and the
free versions like AVG, because Windows for a long time has had more than
adequate protection via its built-in products, especially since Windows
8/8.1/10. 

But in my opinion, anyone persisting with Windows 7 is foolhardy. 

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2020 7:18 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

Went to the Legacy web site and downloaded the update. Windows wouldn't run
it as was blocked by Windows Defender. Managed to override this by "run
anyway". Updated OK, but won't allow any access to the internet when
running. Presumably there is a setting in Windows Defender that needs to be
altered. Tried a couple of them but these haven't cured it.
Any ideas?
Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: 22 January 2020 22:48
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

I can't "check for updates" as the program says I am not connected to the
internet. Same for Legacy News on the home page. I am connected and even
restarted my machine in case there was a glitch. Is there a problem at the
Legacy end?

Jack




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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

[Jack Earnshaw]

Went to the Legacy web site and downloaded the update. Windows wouldn't run
it as was blocked by Windows Defender. Managed to override this by "run
anyway". Updated OK, but won't allow any access to the internet when
running. Presumably there is a setting in Windows Defender that needs to be
altered. Tried a couple of them but these haven't cured it.
Any ideas?
Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jack Earnshaw
Sent: 22 January 2020 22:48
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

I can't "check for updates" as the program says I am not connected to the
internet. Same for Legacy News on the home page. I am connected and even
restarted my machine in case there was a glitch. Is there a problem at the
Legacy end?

Jack




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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

[Jack Earnshaw]

I can't "check for updates" as the program says I am not connected to the
internet. Same for Legacy News on the home page. I am connected and even
restarted my machine in case there was a glitch. Is there a problem at the
Legacy end?

Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 22 January 2020 18:34
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

ANNOUNCEMENT:

We just released an update that is a priority. This update has our new
Windows security certificates which will be good for 3 years. Please update
before January 26, 2020.

If you are a Legacy Deluxe user you can update via the Legacy home tab. If
you are a free standard version user you can update here:

https://legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp 

You can also see the complete Revision List for this update here:
https://legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory9.asp 


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
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Re: [LegacyUG] Windows update

[Jack Earnshaw]

I was offered the 1903 update today and decided to install it. It took several 
hours, but all was well afterwards – including desktop and Legacy

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of gbh
Sent: 30 August 2019 18:28
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Windows update

 

Last night, Windows did another update -- without asking me!

 

This morning, when I turned on my computer again, everything from my Desktop is 
wiped out. Everything that I had painstakingly tried to re-build! All gone!

 

Legacy will not open normally. When I get it started finally, it asks me to do 
setup once more! And asks me to get the Deluxe edition! I already have it! Of 
course, there is no family file anymore. There wasn't even any time to do a 
bsvk-up!

 

Windows has re-set everything! What a stupid idiotic numbskull system that is!! 
If we ever have a choice, NEVER ever get Windows again! There is no sense to 
it. Get Linus or a Mac -- and if Legacy doesn't work on a Mac, so be it. There 
are other programs that do.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Failure Notice

[Jack Earnshaw]

Totally agree that action should have been taken by now

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Failure Notice

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Is MyHeritage Worth It?

[Jack Earnshaw]

The only hits I get from My Heritage are from people's trees that have
copied the data from my web site or GenesReunited.

Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: 05 September 2017 16:58
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Is MyHeritage Worth It?

In a test for one family member, I had hints for the census, FamilySearch
Family Tree (I can get those through FS) and Geni World Family Tree, as well
as MyHeritage Family Trees for another member.
The FamilySearch Family Trees were pretty common hits.

Not getting any record hits, although the site is supposed to have actual
records.

Sherry


On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Philip Solida  wrote:
> Maybe they do... but are they different, or just a rehash of Ancestry 
> site records? Lots of new and different records may have value, while 
> repeating what you already have, would not.
>
> On Sep 5, 2017 9:07 AM, "Linda Hodges"  wrote:
>>
>> My heritage has RECORDS!!! It's not just trees.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2017 9:04 AM, "Donna Rodriguez"  wrote:
>>
>> Is MyHeritage yet another conglomeration of undocumented "family trees"?
>> Without complete documentation from primary sources, then value to 
>> the serious family researcher seems dubious.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Donna

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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages

[Jack Earnshaw]

In my case they were both in CofE churches in Kent, England and “after banns”. 
He was in the army and it is suggested that he didn’t get permission of CO 
before first marriage – in which case she wouldn’t get a pension if he died 
first. His army records only show the second marriage.



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eliz Hanebury
Sent: 14 August 2017 19:12
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



I know one reason why they married twice! Someone forgot the license and had to 
have a private wedding to make all proper 




Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)



On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Jack Earnshaw <j...@jearnshaw.me.uk 
<mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk> > wrote:

Nothing much lost – you just need to seek out the “orphaned” children. Best way 
is to use Treefinder and they should be there as separate trees.



Nothing wrong with duplicate marriages – I have a family who married twice, a 
couple of months apart. Never found out for sure why!



Jack



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: 13 August 2017 14:03
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



Oh how I wish I had seen your post before I did it Jack. I noticed that issue 
immediately.



Now I wonder why Legacy allowed me to duplicate the marriage to begin with. It 
seems to have so many warnings but apparently not one for that.





On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jack Earnshaw <j...@jearnshaw.me.uk 
<mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk> > wrote:

Before unlinking them, make sure that all the children are linked to just one 
of the wives. If not, note the RINs of those connected to the duplicate wife 
and unlink them from parents. After eliminating the duplicate marriage relink 
the children to the correct family

Jack



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legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell
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Subject: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



I noticed a man was married twice in my Legacy 9. I knew he wasn't so I clicked 
on it. It shows he is married to Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as preferred and 
Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as the other wife. She shows the same two marriages to 
him, duplicate names with same number. Duplicates do not show in the Name List. 
However, there are two marriages, MRIN 1082 and 1084.



I can't see a way to merge the two marriages nor to delete one of them.




 
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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages

[Jack Earnshaw]

Nothing much lost – you just need to seek out the “orphaned” children. Best way 
is to use Treefinder and they should be there as separate trees.



Nothing wrong with duplicate marriages – I have a family who married twice, a 
couple of months apart. Never found out for sure why!



Jack



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: 13 August 2017 14:03
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



Oh how I wish I had seen your post before I did it Jack. I noticed that issue 
immediately.



Now I wonder why Legacy allowed me to duplicate the marriage to begin with. It 
seems to have so many warnings but apparently not one for that.





On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Jack Earnshaw <j...@jearnshaw.me.uk 
<mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk> > wrote:

Before unlinking them, make sure that all the children are linked to just one 
of the wives. If not, note the RINs of those connected to the duplicate wife 
and unlink them from parents. After eliminating the duplicate marriage relink 
the children to the correct family

Jack



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legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell
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Subject: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



I noticed a man was married twice in my Legacy 9. I knew he wasn't so I clicked 
on it. It shows he is married to Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as preferred and 
Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as the other wife. She shows the same two marriages to 
him, duplicate names with same number. Duplicates do not show in the Name List. 
However, there are two marriages, MRIN 1082 and 1084.



I can't see a way to merge the two marriages nor to delete one of them.




 
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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages

[Jack Earnshaw]

Before unlinking them, make sure that all the children are linked to just one 
of the wives. If not, note the RINs of those connected to the duplicate wife 
and unlink them from parents. After eliminating the duplicate marriage relink 
the children to the correct family

Jack



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: 12 August 2017 14:58
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] duplicate marriages



I noticed a man was married twice in my Legacy 9. I knew he wasn't so I clicked 
on it. It shows he is married to Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as preferred and 
Elizabeth Thomas [9054] as the other wife. She shows the same two marriages to 
him, duplicate names with same number. Duplicates do not show in the Name List. 
However, there are two marriages, MRIN 1082 and 1084.



I can't see a way to merge the two marriages nor to delete one of them.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

Having created a shortcut on Desktop as was suggested, I've deleted it and
the Help is still working!! So haven't had to reboot - strange!

 

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: 04 August 2017 21:51
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

Jack, 

Reboot your computer and your Help File should then be active.

 

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG

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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>  

www.legacyfamilytree.com <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/>   

 

Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

 

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

Jack

 

 

 


 
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[LegacyUG] Help file in Legacy 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

I've just upgraded to Legacy9 from 8 and can't open the Help Index - either
from the Help Tab or under Support on the Legacy Home tab. All that happens
is that it goes to a Microsoft page to diagnose why the Help app won't open

 

I'm using Windows 10 - which appears not to support the Help program

 

What is the solution pls

 

Jack

 

 



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to Link Mother

[Jack Earnshaw]

Hi Debbie

Takes a bit to get your head around this part of the system. I guess from your 
description the father was married more than once and presumably you have him 
in the database with multiple marriages (let’s say there were 2). You added 
these children to him alone. But in Legacy you have effectively said they were 
born to a partnership of the father and yet another, but unknown, wife. Hence 
you now have 3 marriages for the father. Legacy always presumes that there are 
both a father and mother to a child and if you don’t include one or the othr 
then it makes up a placeholder person and also an unknown “marriage” (i.e. 
coupling).

 

By trying to add the correct mother, as the wife of their father, you are 
retaining the concept that there were 3 marriages, and that 2 of them were to 
the same person. So it looks as though he married the same person twice. That 
does happen (Liz Taylor and Richard Burton!). I have an example where a couple 
married and it appears to have been declared unlawful so they did it again 6 
weeks later, but both marriage certificates exist and are available for 
purchase.

 

The actual way to do this is to

-  Note the RIN numbers of the 2 children

-  Unlink the children from their parents so they are now “orphaned” in 
the system

-  Delete the “phantom marriage”. This is either father + unknown or, 
if you accepted the duplicate marriage message, the”extra” marriage of the 
correct father and mother. Use the list of spouses to check what the situation 
is.

-  Go to the correct father/mother combination

-  Add the children, using the “son/daughter - existing person” option 
and find correct person by name/rin

Now you have the children connected to the correct parents.

 

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Debbie Jorgenson
Sent: 25 June 2017 21:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to Link Mother

 

I have an individual I've added a couple children to but was unsure of the 
mother. So I added them just to the father (no mother). After research, I have 
decided they belong to wife #1 (already linked to father). When I try to add 
mother, I select the option to link to an existing individual (the box title 
is: add spouse t0). After selecting the correct mother, I receive a box 
(Duplication) with the message that [mother] is already the wife of [father]. 
What am I doing wrong?

 

Debbie

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family File

[Jack Earnshaw]

Obviously an action has to be taken when a path isn't available - e.g. offer
files on the factory default path. But I still believe that Legacy should
not change the defaults set by the user. Perhaps it could ask the user if OK
to change. Hence I still believe both these two items (1.2 and 6.1) are bugs

Jack

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: 27 March 2017 15:45
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family File

There is an enhancement suggestion about not changing options 6.1 and
6.2 to defaults when an external drive is not available, this includes
network drives as well as plug in drives like flash drives etc.

Brian Kelly

On 27-Mar-17 4:44 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Thanks Jack.
>
> I never open files from the Taskbar list unless I've a need to test.
> And I don't have a network drive.
>
> Opening from a right click from the Recent Files list on the Taskbar 
> has changed 1.2 to Open last used for me.
> I'll make sure this is entered. Now you mention it, I have vague 
> memories of this issue so it may already be entered.
>
> I wonder if anything can be done with the Network drive issue. A 
> number of functions in Legacy draw off the 6.1 setting so I suspect it 
> has to be an available path.
>
> Cathy
>
> Jack Earnshaw wrote:
>>
>> Cathy wrote:
>> "
>> Thirdly, the usual way people lose their Legacy settings is deciding 
>> to "tidy up" their Documents folder or their genealogy folders and 
>> either rename or move ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\  This folder 
>> cannot be moved or renamed. I t will simply be recreated with defaults.
>>
>> Fifthly, in Options - Customise, reset both 1.2 and 6.1.
>> 6.1 should be set to the folder where you keep your Legacy data.
>> With 1.2 make sure you are not only choosing the file of the right 
>> name but the file of the right name in the right folder.
>> "
>>
>> However, you can lose the settings in 1.2 and 6.1 quite easily.
>> For  1.2 (and using Windows 10). If you right click on the Legacy 
>> icon in the taskbar and pick a previously opened file. The default 
>> becomes "always open this file" irrespective of what was previously 
>> set in 1.2 For 6.1. If the path is not available (such as a network 
>> location and maybe applies to the zip backups), then the system 
>> alters the location back to the factory defaults.
>>
>> In both cases this is wrong. Legacy should NEVER change the user 
>> customised options without asking.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family File

[Jack Earnshaw]

Cathy wrote:
"
Thirdly, the usual way people lose their Legacy settings is deciding to
"tidy up" their Documents folder or their genealogy folders and either
rename or move ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\  This folder cannot be
moved or renamed. It will simply be recreated with defaults.

Fifthly, in Options - Customise, reset both 1.2 and 6.1.
6.1 should be set to the folder where you keep your Legacy data.
With 1.2 make sure you are not only choosing the file of the right name but
the file of the right name in the right folder.
"

However, you can lose the settings in 1.2 and 6.1 quite easily.
For  1.2 (and using Windows 10). If you right click on the Legacy icon in
the taskbar and pick a previously opened file. The default becomes "always
open this file" irrespective of what was previously set in 1.2
For 6.1. If the path is not available (such as a network location and maybe
applies to the zip backups), then the system alters the location back to the
factory defaults.

In both cases this is wrong. Legacy should NEVER change the user customised
options without asking.

Jack



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9

[Jack Earnshaw]

Users of Legacy7 or Legacy8 get free updates within those versions. But
there has always been a charge to upgrade from 1 version to the next

 

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Genealogy
Sent: 01 December 2016 23:21
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 9

 

In the Legacy News released yesterday there was a statement that said ".all
Legacy Family Tree software is $10 off for a limited time (comes with a FREE
upgrade to Legacy 9 when it is released)."

My question is what will EXISTING Legacy 7 and 8 users have to pay to get
the Legacy 9 upgrade or will it be free as all other upgrades? Will we have
to purchase Legacy again, if so it could be worth buying Legacy 8 again now
at the reduced price and then getting the free upgrade when Legacy 9 is
released.

 

I am sure many existing users would like this clarified as soon as possible.

Geoff

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Couple married twice

[Jack Earnshaw]

This is thought to be the reason I have a similar situation. I have a
couple, he was in the army, who got married twice in Chatham Kent in 1868.
The archivist said there had been several such "double marriages" amongst
members of the army. If they married without permission of the Commanding
Officer, then the army didn't recognise the marriage and so the wife
wouldn't be able to claim a widow's pension. His army records give his date
of marriage as the later date.

I entered both marriages as though they were true second marriages, just
that the two people were the same. Ie looking at the list of marriages there
are two with the same RINs for the couple. After he died, his widow married
again and so the list of marriages for her has husband 1 twice and then her
2nd husband.
As they didn't have any children it doesn't affect the descendant lists etc

Jack

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of MikeFry
Sent: 14 October 2016 22:33
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Couple married twice

On 14 Oct 2016 15:57, John Francis wrote:

> James Spencer (a corporal in the Grenadier Guards) married Ellen Kemp 
> on 24 Dec
> 1868 in St. Margaret's Church, Westminster. The couple then married 
> again on 27 Feb 1871 in the Royal Chapel in the Tower of London. I am 
> now looking into possible reasons for them going through two marriage 
> ceremonies, but my immediate problem is: how do I record the two marriages
in Legacy?
>
> I would be grateful for any suggestions.

I believe at that time, the soldier would have needed the permission of his
commanding officer in order to get married. Perhaps, in the eyes of the
Army, permission wasn't forthcoming until later, hence the second marriage.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Quetion on old date

[Jack Earnshaw]

Remember that the 1680 date was also in the period covered by “old dates”. i.e. 
before 25th March. So, that in dual dating is 1680/81. 

 

Jack

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Joyce Herzog
Sent: 01 October 2016 16:32
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quetion on old date

 

Thank you, CE.

I should have remembered Wikipedia. 

I'll go with Feb. 1, 1679 for the date of death, as Barbados was a British 
Colony at the time.

Thanks Again,

Joyce

 

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:41 PM, CE WOOD  > wrote:

It depends on the country. For simplicity, Wikipedia:

 

"

Western Europe:
For 170 years (1582–1752), both dating systems were in concurrent use in 
different parts of western Europe and its colonies. During this period the 
difference between the styles increased from ten to eleven days due to the 
Julian calendar's excess of leap years (i.e., Julian leap-year 1700 vs 
Gregorian non-leap-year 1700). France changed from the Julian to the Gregorian 
calendar on 9 December 1582 (O.S.) so the next day was 20 December 1582 (N.S.). 
France used the French Republican  Calendar from 22 September 1792 (N.S.) to 31 
December 1805 (N.S.). Great Britain (under the provisions of the Calendar (New 
Style) Act 1750) and the British colonies (including Ireland) changed from the 
Julian to the Gregorian calendar at midnight on Wednesday 2 September 1752; the 
next day was Thursday 14 September 1752.It is sometimes remarked that William 
Shakespeare and Miguel de Cervantes died on the same date, 23 April 1616, but 
not on the same day. England was still using the Julian calendar in 1616, while 
Spain was using the Gregorian calendar. Cervantes actually died ten days before 
Shakespeare.

 

CE  

 


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From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of Joyce Herzog 
 >
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:52 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Quetion on old date 

 

I have a will that states: 

Dep, 25 Jan 1680. James Scot age 40: "On 1 Feb last Stephen Drinkwater intended 
to bequeath to his daus Katherine Drinkwater* & Mary Drinkwater*. Before he 
finished, he was in a stupor & could not sign."

assuming he died on 1 Feb, what was the year. I get confused by old dates. 
forgot when the new calendar went into effect. 

Would appreciate clarification.

Regards,

Joyce.

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Re: [LegacyUG] married twice to the same person

[Jack Earnshaw]

I had a similar situation. A gt gt uncle (William Thorne) got married twice, 
but not divorced in between. He got married first in Chatham, Kent in July 1868 
and again in August the same year in Brompton, Kent (nr Chatham). On both 
occasions he married the same person (Rebecca Wilks). He was in the army and 
Chatham was an army base. On the first occasion her sister was a witness, so 
family invited. But the second time no family are listed. There are two 
possible reasons

-  The parish church in whose registers the marriage is recorded was 
closed for repairs and the actual marriage ceremony was in a neighbouring 
church – maybe there was an irregularity regarding where the banns were called 
or the wrong vicar conducted the ceremony

-  As he was in the army, did he marry without permission of his 
officers. If so a pension wouldn’t be paid to his widow when he died. The army 
papers show his marriage as the later, August, date.

When I talked with people at the Kent Record Office, they said they had found a 
few other, similar situations but didn’t have a clear reason for the double 
marriage ceremonies.

 

I recorded this as two distinct Marriage events (MRINs), but obviously only two 
RIN numbers. As they had no children it doesn’t confuse the Family Group Sheets 
etc. The dates were so close together that there were unlikely to be children 
to the first marriage. If :

-  They married and had children

-  They remarried and had further children

This could have created some confusion on the reports. But luckily this wasn’t 
a problem. Hence I was happy to just show two marriage events. After William 
died she went on to marry again in Cardiff, Wales. So the marriage list for her 
shows 

-William Thorne

-William Thorne

-Richard Lewis

 

The only problem I can see with this, technically correct, method is if there 
were children to both marriages. Some of the siblings would show as half 
siblings and this designation would extend to later generations – half cousins 
etc

 

I’d love to hear from anybody connected to this line or who had similar issues 
at these churches in Chatham

 

Jack

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Debby Flood
Sent: 10 August 2016 15:49
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] married twice to the same person

 

My uncle did that.  I have one uncle and one aunt in the system.  Under their 
events I list each marriage as an event and the divorces as an event.  There 
are no duplicate people, however, I add to the marriage notes the details of 
their strange relationship.

 

Debby

 

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:26 AM, Dennis Davenport  > wrote:

Hi, what is the best way to enter a couple who marries, divorces, and then 
marries again to the same person?  Will each person have 2 spouses, two 
marriage events and one divorce event, even though the spouses are the same 
person in each marriage? Will Legacy think I have duplicate names?  Or do I 
just make a note of it in each person's notes?  Has anyone had this situation?  
Thank you for your help!

 

Dennis


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[LegacyUG] no problems

[Jack Earnshaw]

Why do a limited number of people have to talk about "lots of faults" in
Legacy. I have used Legacy since V3 and there have been a few occasions when
faults have been a real issue (that mess up my data). But such problems have
always been cleared up very quickly. Of course there are outstanding faults,
but are they serious? If they affect the storage of your data then the
answer would be yes - but nobody has reported such an issue recently.



Are there issues with the output of data to reports or web sites? Yes there
are. But, do they stop you using the system? I presume the answer is no,
else the moaners would have gone elsewhere.



OK, I still have a few minor issues with the software, such as the support
of same sex marriage and some restrictions on web page creation. But overall
I am still delighted with the system. The ease of use was what first
attracted me and it still retains that virtue.



To those who decry the system after the first mention on here of a potential
problem, later found to be a user problem - please wait until there is a
real issue found.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Jack Earnshaw]

Hi Don
There is a fundamental problem with subscribing to the list as many, many 
people have reported this problem. If you send an email to 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and explain the problem they will subscribe you 
manually

Jack

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I have subscribed (I think) but in about 2 weeks I have not yet received a 
single message.





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[LegacyUG] Changing default locations

[Jack Earnshaw]

I use a laptop (call it machine A) to access Legacy, but my data is all
stored on a desktop that I access through my local network (call it machine
B). Legacy on machine A is set up so that the default location for data
files and media files is set to the appropriater locations on machine B.
Hence when I start Legacy it shows all my family tree files.



If Machine B is switched off for any reason (after a power cut or for any
other reason) then Legacy on Machine A not only goes back to offering files
on C: on machine A in the default directory for data and media files, but
changes the defaults that I have set up.



Hence, after I get machine B restarted, I have to open the sample file on
my laptop and then go into Options and recreate my default locations and
save them AGAIN.



I can understand Legacy only offering the sample file on C: on my laptop if
my other machine is switched off. BUT, I cannot see that it is right for my
defaults to be altered without my agreeing to it. If I make changes I have
to click Save, but Legacy changes the defaults all on its own if my
desktop (machine B) is switched off.



Does anybody else have this problem?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]

[Jack Earnshaw]

In many ways what you say is correct. It is almost pointless making a costly 
change that will only benefit a small number of existing users. But the issues 
raised are not, in the long term, in that category.

-  “not married and had no children” will become a growing issue with 
today’s means of creating children and forming relationships – not least 
children with 3 biological parents

-  Same sex marriage is now legal in many places and will increase in 
prevalence.



The main point is the first of these, as the business process within the 
software appears to be driven by the programmers who are using a technical, 
rather than real world, decision. They have looked at the software requirement 
and realised that “biologically” each person has two parents. Traditionally 
this meant there was a marriage – even though there are so many examples, even 
in the Victorian era, of people ignoring these conventions.



What is needed is for the business (i.e. those responsible for the customer 
needs) to look at whether this model is still relevant. If not they need to 
specify what the model should be. The programmers will then have to adjust the 
database structure to satisfy the business need. This may well mean that the 
“parents” of a child is a list of people and that this might include a 
“married” couple, but not necessarily.



Until Legacy accepts that there is a need to recognise 21C definitions of 
family, marriage, parenting etc, then there is little point in objecting to the 
existing structure. The database design is clearly so indelibly entwined with 
the definition of family that it isn’t possible to “tinker” with the system.



Jack



From: gerald [mailto:g...@representative.com]
Sent: 09 April 2015 20:24
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]



It may appear, John, that what you would like to see in a program is very 
logical to you, but the number of other users that feel the same can be counted 
on one hand. It is just not worth the time and effort to make those changes for 
only a few. I know from personal experience in writiing a simple program that 
one little correction involves re-writing the entire code for the program, 
and I have to ask myself is it worth all this bother? just for this little 
change before doing anything at all.



A better idea is simply to make the changes yourself. I find that I often have 
to make it myself for anything to be the way I want it. So write your own 
program that does exactly what you want. Then it will always be perfect. Very 
logical way to go, I think. Don't wait for others to do it for you -- do it 
yourself.



Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 at 12:18 AM
From: John Lisle leg...@johnlisle.com mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]

Jay,

Your (and my?) idea of what the market requires may be different from what 
Legacy's management feels is necessary.
What you and I whine about most often are the small 10 cent changes that could 
make our lives easier as we go about our business.

I would like to see an L8.1 that picks up a number of these changes.

john.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationships

[Jack Earnshaw]

It sounds as though you have two separate marriages for that daughter - one 
having 2 children and the other having the second two. You will need to unlink 
the last two children from the spurious marriage and link them to the correct 
one - then deal with getting rid of the second marriage

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 25 January 2014 14:19
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationships

Now this is me, just odd or a bug

I have a half 3rd great grandaunt, Louisa Love, who married and had 2
daughters. Both children are shown as 1st cousins 4 times removed. The
youngest married and had 4 children. The first 2 are shown as 2nd cousins 3
times removed and the last 2 are shown as half-2nd cousins 3 times removed.
The first 2 were entered before I upgraded to V8 and the last 2 added since.
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RE: [LegacyUG] BUG: Search Internet

[Jack Earnshaw]

I am in the UK and so am set up to input dates as dd/mm/ . When I use the 
search internet option the dates of birth and death are displayed correctly. 
E.g. my father was born on 12 July 1915 and the birth date is displayed as 
12/7/1915 on the Search the Internet screen - this is using V8 build 381. Where 
is the date input format set? The options for dates (section 5) only seem to 
deal with how dates are displayed, not how they are entered.


Jack Earnshaw



-Original Message-
From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2014 09:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] BUG: Search Internet

The bug with the invalid dates is still present in the Internet Search selection
screen.

When selecting the person to be the subject of the search, a Search Selection
screen appears with details extracted from that person and the ability to direct
the search towards a particular web-site. This screen is wrong!

I, being part of the world outside of the USA, use the UK date format and have
elected to show dates as dd Mmm  - no chance of any confusion with a
US-style date. On the Search Selection window, a date (29 Jul 1859) is displayed
as 07-29-1859.

Bug 1: This date format should, I believe, reflect the users choice and at the
very least, be shown as 29-07-1859

On selecting Ancestry.co.uk (the only place worth searching for my family) and
pressing the Search button, I get an Unrecognised Date message for the
07-29-1859 date.

Bug 2: Why, since I can't edit the date, is it being validated?

I click OK and the message is repeated giving the same date.

Bug 3: Why, seeing as there is only a single occurrence of the date is it

validated twice?

--
Regards,
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Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

[Jack Earnshaw]

Lucky you! We can't all buy the latest kit on a whim. My laptop certainly 
doesn't have a scroll area.
But I plugged in a mini mouse with a wheel and found the problem that has been 
discussed - you have to click on the mother before scrolling will work. After 
that I could click on the father and scrolling continued to work. Looks like a 
bug or maybe related to which OS you use - I still have Vista

Jack



-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 December 2013 15:02
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

Doesn't your touch pad have a scroll area?  Mine does. When I tap the
pointer in a list, then I can scroll using the scroll area - i.e., the
far right side of my touch pad. I use it all the time when working
with Legacy on my laptop or teaching classes.

Can you even get a mouse without a scroll wheel anymore? Even my
mini-mouse has one!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com wrote:
 In addition not everyone has a mouse with a wheel and many of us use a
 laptop with a touchpad. Scrolling with a touchpad is not ideal. Please bring
 back the hover box.

 Larry Lee




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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

[Jack Earnshaw]

I find that when a person is highlighted as the main person of interest, (or as 
one of the parents of a person), then the colours work OK - e.g. Husband/Wife 
is in red when they are alive and black if they are dead. But if you move them 
to the children's list, by clicking on a parent then the colour shown is 
somewhat random.
e.g. My grandmother had 10 siblings and all show correctly when they are the 
highlighted person. But as children of my gt grandparents 4 are showing as dead 
and the other 7 are shown as living - despite there being a death date for all 
11 of them in the database. Equally, I and my 3 children show on the children 
list as dead, but all very much alive on the database.


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual
Information window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

[Jack Earnshaw]

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

[Jack Earnshaw]

I have V8 deluxe on 2 machines and on both of them the child number is the same 
colour as the sex of the child - ie all fields are blue for boys and red for 
girls. So the living indicator isn't being applied to the child list. On one 
machine option 3.9 was switched off, but even when I turned it on it only 
applied to the main couple, not their children.

When I changed the child list view to best fit columns (option 8.5) or 3 
columns then the child number colour was set according to the living 
indicator. I changed back to a grid list and the colour of the child number 
reverted to being the child's sex.


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 20:37
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

The living/dead colour is reflected in the child number. The color for the sex 
of the children (default blue for male/red for female) is a separate setting.


Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 1:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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[LegacyUG] please do check/repair regularly

[Jack Earnshaw]

I have used Legacy since V3 and have done File Maintenance/Check  repair
from time to time. But this obviously wasn't frequently enough as my file
became corrupted and wouldn't open. I was lucky in that Michelle in support
was able to repair the file, but this might not have been possible.

I had used V7.5 of the program to update some records based on a new source
of data becoming available. Before closing the program I did a backup.
However, this wasn't enough!

I downloaded V8 Basic version and then used V7.5 to try to make a copy of my
main file. The system reported that my file wasn't in the correct format and
crashed Legacy V7.5

I did a restore from 21 Nov, the date of the last updates, and the program
again said the file was corrupted. A restore from a 16 Nov backup produced a
usable file.

Having reported the problem, I was asked to send my file to Millenium and
within a few hours a repaired version of my 21 Nov file was sent back to me.

I opened the restored 16 Nov file and the repaired 21 Nov file and the
number of individuals and families differed by a small number, but greater
than expected. I did a Search on the added dates of individuals and
marriages and the number altered was, as expected, a much lower number than
had been reported by the program.

After receiving my repaired copy I then did a check/repair on the backup
copy from the 16 Nov backup. Several errors were reported and so I repeated
the check/repair and no errors were reported. Afterwards the number of
individuals and the number of families had altered and was totally in line
with what I had done on 21 November. So, the file was already corrupted BUT
WORKING when I made the last updates and did a backup.

The moral is that I should have carried out a check/repair at an earlier
date. The fact that I could still open the file didn't mean that everything
was OK. Thanks to Michelle in Support I haven't lost any data, but it could
have been much worse.

I will now do a check/repair much more often and, of course, make backups
after each time I change my data. If I had done the check/repair sooner then
I might not have needed to ask Support for their help to repair my file.

Jack

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RE: [LegacyUG] In the beginning..

[Jack Earnshaw]

The easiest thing to do is
a) use V7 to open your file and then use File/Save As to make a copy of your 
file with a different name
b) download and install V8
c) open V8 with the copy you made at step a)
d) try out V8 using that copy and if you are happy then continue to use the 
copy you made
e) at any time you can run V7 and use the original file to check if there are 
any problems
f) ultimately you might want to delete the V7 format file and rename the V8 
version of your file

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Bernd Hornung [mailto:ber@telus.net]
Sent: 29 November 2013 23:54
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] In the beginning..

Have been reading all the postings since the release of L8 and have made
my purchase, received my number and 'flipped through' the manual.  I am
missing something.

I have L7 Deluxe and am preparing to migrate my databases to L8 (good
project for Monday and Tuesday when the wind will be howling, the snow
will be falling and a temp of -30C).

I have backed up all my DBs.

Do I import the L7 DB or the backup?  As I understand it, if I import
the L7 DB then I will no longer be able to access it with L7.  Yes?
You could answer direct if you do not wish to call me a dummy in a
public forum.

Thanks all.  Looking forward to learning the new features.  Thanks Team

Bernie H.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Subscription

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This is a fairly common problem. Send an email to supp...@legacyfamilytree.com 
and they will subscribe you manually.

Jack

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From: Anne [mailto:agdy...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 07 November 2013 18:33
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Subscription

Thanks for all the replies and for trying to help.
I know I am subscribed to the User Group, but the point is I am not receiving 
emails from either the Legacy News or the User Group.
Emails are definitely not going into the Spam or Deleted folder.
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RE: [LegacyUG] surname list

[Jack Earnshaw]

Mary

Not sure if this is the best way, but a possibility is to use tagging.



Go to the person whose ancestors you want to find the surnames of

Select Edit/ Tag Records

Choose a tag number you haven’t used.

Select Tag and “ancestors”  and a tag number – if you’re not sure who is tagged 
then select a tag number and untag “Everyone” before you tag the ancestors

Then do a Search/Find/Detailed Search and select Individual, Where to look =Tag 
x, how to look “Equal”, what to look for “Tagged”

Then under the list of names choose “Print...”

Select CSV file – bottom right

Unclick all the field options and under “optional fields” click on  
“Customise...” and select “Name: Surname” as the first entry. Then click 
“surname” from the optional fields list.

Click on create and choose a file name in the folder you want and then press 
“Create”.

This will create a file that can be opened by Excel or another spreadsheet 
program. It will have duplicates for everybody with the same surname, but can 
surely be edited to provide the list you want.



Jack





From: Mary LeClerc [mailto:quiltingm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 June 2013 21:44
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] surname list



Is there an easy way to generate a list of surnames in the direct ancestral 
line, preferably alphabetized?  There probably is something simple I'm missing.

Thanks,

Mary





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RE: [LegacyUG] preferred person displayed within a marriage

[Jack Earnshaw]

The option in “customise” to “display preferred startup family” would work as 
you want it if you

Put yourself and second wife in the central part of the Family View screen

Then go to Options/set preferred startup family and select “set current family 
as preferred”



Jack



From: hu...@wagtail.net [mailto:hu...@wagtail.net]
Sent: 27 February 2013 03:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] preferred person displayed within a marriage



Thanks everyone for the replies.  It now working okay.



The answer was as suggested just a simply change under options.  So what I have 
I done to make it work.  Go to “options”, “customise”, “starting family” 
Changed “display Preferred startup family” to “display last viewed family”.  I 
have close the family file and reopened successfully.  Also shutdown the PC and 
started again.  Again it works.  Not sure why, as second wife is marked as 
preferred but as least it works.



Thanks again everyone,

Wes





From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 1:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] preferred person displayed within a marriage



I wonder if he talking about how it appears in a report rather than in a screen 
view.  In a report, if the marriages have dates, the first marriage will appear 
first.

On screen, the preferred wife will be the one shown when in his Family or 
Pedigree View, because she is the preferred wife.
CE


 From: br...@the-lightfoots.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] preferred person displayed within a marriage
 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:30:51 -0800

 I was a little puzzled about the answer here, namely that the preferred 
 spouse needs to be listed at the top of the sort order. A quick check of the 
 Legacy Help System says A Preferred spouse is the spouse automatically shown 
 when their husband or wife is selected or displayed on the Family or Pedigree 
 View as you navigate through your ancestors and descendants.. Note that 
 there is no mention of the requirement to move the preferred spouse to the 
 top. I always thought that the Spouse List was merely a means of keeping 
 the chronological order correct as it would show in various reports and in 
 the human brain.

 So, I played around in the sandbox a little. Went to somebody that was 
 married several times. As I re-designated a different spouse as the 
 preferred one, I jumped elsewhere in the file and then came back. Each and 
 every time, the preferred spouse is the one that would automatically display 
 regardless of the sort order. Not surprising because, after all, that's just 
 what preferred is supposed to do.

 So back to the OP's message. He claims he has changed the preferred 
 designation but Legacy is not following its own rule. That indeed would seem 
 to indicate that something is wrong. I suspect the OP is not following the 
 procedure correctly to designate someone as a preferred spouse. Maybe a 
 little more follow-up from the OP would be in order.


 Brian in California


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:36 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] preferred person displayed within a marriage

 On 2/26/2013 5:00 PM, hu...@wagtail.net wrote:
  I have been married twice and have both marriages entered into my family
  tree. My issue is that my first wife always displays first when I open
  the program. I have selected my second wife as the preferred person and
  followed the help file, but it doesn’t work. There must be something
  simple that I have missed here. Could anyone advise?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Wes Smith



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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem going from family View to Name List

[Jack Earnshaw]

Yes Richard. It happens with me as well. And seems to be happening more and 
more. So possibly it is something that I am adding that is causing the problem 
to worsen.

I hadn't previously noticed that having RIN as the order for Name List yielded 
the right result but I've just tested it and I get the first person on the list 
for both first name and surname ordering, but the correct person is 
highlighted if I choose Rin as the order of the list.

I'm sure I reported it a couple of years ago, but can't remember the response 
now.

Jack

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From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 February 2013 23:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem going from family View to Name List

Does anyone else see this problem?


When I am in family view with Jane Doe highlighted and click on the
NAME LIST icon it takes me to Name List sorted by either # (RIN) or
Given or Surname, depending on whichever box was preselected, and it
takes me to middle of the list to Jane Doe.


My problem is that for maybe 20% of people it takes me to the top of
the list. For Surname it starts with blank surnames and I need to
scroll down to Doe. The problem Individuals go to top of list for both
Given and Surname but if # is preselected it works properly. If the
person is selected with # and then I click on either Given or Surname
it jumps to top of list.


I had this same problem years ago and it was discussed on this list
but I don't recall a solution other than export to Legacy file and
re-import which I don't care to do.


--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Robots.txt

[Jack Earnshaw]

Don't know if it's the same for Rich, but I've not seen any WUL for a week or 
so. Maybe there's a problem and Rich hasn't seen your request

Jack

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From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 12 December 2012 17:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Robots.txt

Rich,

At my request you were good enough to put this on the WUL List, since when
both Dennis and I have requested further details, and are awaiting your
reply. We are perfectly happy to help, but without contact from yourself we
cannot go further at this stage. If you haven't received our comments please
check you Spam box.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Richard Falzini
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Robots.txt

I have created a HTML code for my site, I have to embed the code in to my
root directory where the index.html is located.

How to I access the index.html and will I be able to embed the code there to
make my changes?

Rich




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RE: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

[Jack Earnshaw]

Until 1889 there wasn’t a County in England called London. The only place to 
officially have the title London was the City of London – the square mile. A 
very small area from the Tower in the east to Fleet Street in the west. 
Everywhere else was part of Middlesex (north of the Thames), Surrey (south of 
the Thames), Essex or Kent. Then in 1889 a new County was created administered 
by the London County Council and took in quite a lot of what had previously 
been in Middlesex, Surrey and a small part of Kent. Middlesex, Surrey and Kent 
continued as smaller counties bordering onto London. This continued until 1965 
when a new entity Greater London was created that took in the existing County 
of London, together with most of the rest of Middlesex, more of Surrey and some 
of Kent, Essex and Hertfordshire. At that point silly things happened, such as 
Staines that had always been in Middlesex moved into Surrey and Kingston which 
housed the County Hall for Surrey was in Greater London.



Sadly, Middlesex doesn’t exist now as a County. It’s name only really existing 
in terms of Middlesex County Cricket and the like.



But, please NEVER suffix a county name with the word County (ie Middlesex is 
just that, not Middlesex County). The only exception in Great Britain (and the 
UK loves exceptions!) is County Durham. And please don’t attempt to squeeze 
British place names into a four field format. E.g in the east of London was 
Stepney, Middlesex, England and later it was Stepney, London, England



For a definition of the County of London see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_London



Jack



From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: 08 September 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC



Great idea, Elizabeth, thank you!!

JLB,



How do you handle it when you've got something like London, which I think is in 
more than one county?

I've got some London, Middlesex County locations.  I think part of Middlesex is 
outside of London.

Also, as in the US, I imagine some Middlesex County locations have a London 
address even though they're outside the corporate limits of London.



Pat



On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com wrote:

Richmond (Independent city) Virginia  G


Eliz


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a somewhat similar problem in Virginia, where for 90 or so years
 we've had independent cities that are not in counties. I've never quite
 decided what to do with them!

 Pat


 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Terri Brown ridge...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That's what I do just to get Washington DC to sort the way I want (I'm too
 lazy to play with the sorting options). Just keep in mind there isn't a
 county.

 Terri Brown

 From: JLB j...@jgen.ws
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] proper format for Washington, DC

 If Washington is a city and DC is treated as a state, wouldn't it be
 Washington, (blank), District of Columbia, United States?
 ---
 JL Beeken
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/

 On 9/6/2012 6:16 PM, Jackie King wrote:
  Sorry - I didn't realize you were not in the United States.
 
  The District of Columbia is a federal district that contains the city of
  Washington - but for all practical purposes the district for addressing
  is treated like you would a state.
 
  So you have two choices in my mind - the one you were given or a
  (blank), Washington, District of Columbia, USA.
 
 
  On 9/6/2012 8:13 PM, JLB wrote:
  Being not someone who lives in the U.S. I find this very confusing. As
  we watch it on television, it appears as though Washington DC is a
  city.
 
  So, is it Washington DC, , , United States? Or is Washington a county
  as
 
  you seem to be saying? And if so, what is DC? I'm reading you but I'm
  not getting it.
  ---
  JL Beeken
  JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
  http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
 
  On 9/6/2012 6:05 PM, Jackie King wrote:
  All of my D.C. folks are very early on - so I get to use the county
  system. While it looks odd, what was suggested might work - or perhaps
  leave the city blank - put washington where you normally would put the
  county - and then the district and country.
 
  Jackie
 
  On 9/6/2012 8:01 PM, JLB wrote:
  OK, I'll bite. What IS correct? Thanks for the other info. I never
  would
  have known.
  ---
  JL Beeken
  JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
  http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/
 
  On 9/6/2012 5:29 PM, Jackie King wrote:
  It may not be right but it depends on the time frame you are
  discussing.
  Early on, D.C. had two counties - Washington and Alexandria - and
  encompassed a portion of Virginia.  In that case you probably would
  have
  treated it like any city and state with reference to the county.
  Later
  - about 1846 -  it became one county 

RE: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright

[Jack Earnshaw]

On their web site there is an FAQ section which includes

How do I cite Find A Grave in a bibliography?
Please feel free to cite Find A Grave in your bibliographies, lists of 
references, etc. in whatever format you deem appropriate. Please note that, 
while Jim Tipton is the creator of Find A Grave, he is not the author of all of 
the content. If the information you are referencing includes a bio by XXX 
line, please cite that author as well.
Sample citation: Bio Author. Web Page Title. Find A Grave. Date of (your) 
access.
Sample citation: Bio Author. John Doe. Find A Grave 
http://www.findagrave.com . 6-1-2008. [Top 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#faqTop ]



So, it would appear that they are happy for you to cite the data you find



Jack



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 23 July 2012 20:38
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Snipit in Legacy-copyright



I've taken Snipits of information on findagrave.com, given the URL as the 
source, I've then created online webpages including the Snipit, is this against 
copyright rules?

Thanks,

Syble



Families Researching:  Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, 
Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Searching for place of marriage

[Jack Earnshaw]

I just tried the same search (version 7.5.0.116) and got all the marriages I 
know took place in the town I chose and there were no others listed.
Have you checked that the Clear list before the search button is selected?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 March 2012 16:33
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Searching for place of marriage

I am having a hard time figuring out how to make Legacy do what I want.  I
want to find everyone in my file that was married in Greene Co, GA.  When I
put

MARRIAGE,   MARRIAGE PLACE,   CONTAINS,   GREENE

I get a list of people that have things like , , North Carolina, United
States as their marriage location.  I also get people that have nothing in
their marriage blank.  Out of the search list, only 2 were married in Greene
Co.  Where are the rest of them.  I have re-done the search several times
and I keep getting the same thing.

michele




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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.149 - font issues

[Jack Earnshaw]

The total lack of fonts in .149 seems to be fine in the new version. I have my 
selections of Arial and Times New Roman showing up

Jack

-Original Message-
From: s megraw [mailto:smeg...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 24 February 2012 23:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.149 - font issues


Is there anyone who was experiencing problems with the fonts in version 
7.5.0.149 tried this new version?


 From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.149 - font issues
 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:09:52 -0500

 It is hard to say for sure but I strongly suspect that your font problem
 arises from the difficulty with the font setting screen. It is probably
 that Legacy is not correctly reading the settings for fonts from the
 report .usr file. The font setting problem is now fixed in the 7.5.0.154
 release that was issued last night.

 If you update and set your fonts in the report the problem should go
 away. If it does not please use the report a Bug link on the Legacy Home
 tab to report the issue.

 Brian
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RE: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

[Jack Earnshaw]

That would certainly enter the last used entries into vital events, but not 
notes, events, sources etc etc.

The other suggestion was to copy the person to a new database and then copy 
them back in, which worked like a charm

Jack

-Original Message-
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Sent: 19 February 2012 03:41
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person



  Is it possible to, effectively, copy  paste a person to create a second
person with the same name and details?

Several days ago I sent the simplest way I know to copy a persons page,
but the problem continued with no indication anyone had seen that post.
I got a copy, but I was wondering if anyone else did.

To copy a person, bring the page up as if you were going to edit it,
but don't change anything, then save it. The main part of that page is
then in Legacy memory somewhere, and all you need to do is click on the
title of each entry you want, such as name, date or place. I don't
think that will copy events or sources that way, but all the vital
records on the main page will copy that way. You can even copy to
another data base, as the memory doesn't care what name is on the
database.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

[Jack Earnshaw]

Thanks Dennis

Worked like a charm

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: 17 February 2012 12:38
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:31:48 -, Jack Earnshaw
j...@jearnshaw.me.uk wrote:

Is it possible to, effectively, copy  paste a person to create a second
person with the same name and details?

I have an ancestor where I have now discovered that I have made a mistake.
His mother was Martha Earnshaw, but not the one I thought it was. Part of
the data refers to the correct person and part of it refers to the incorrect
one. Rather than create a new person and copy across the required data from
the other one and then delete the incorrect data from the original person,
it would be nice to be able to just duplicate everything and then
selectively delete the bits that refer to the other person.

The only way I can think of doing this is:

1) Create a new empty database.
2) Open in Split Screen View your original database. Now you have the
   empty database in one MDI window and the original database in the
   other.
3) Drag-n-drop the person you want to copy from the original database to
   the new empty database.
4) Now drag-n-drop the person in the new database back to the old.

I haven't tried this, so let us know if it works.

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

[Jack Earnshaw]

Rita

No, because there are two people. One was born and baptised but died aged 12. 
The other person had a child and got married. I'd mixed the two up until I 
found the burial.

Now I've got a new brick wall as all the previously thought ancestors aren't 
any more!

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net]
Sent: 17 February 2012 13:31
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

Wouldn't unlinking the person and then linking to the correct family accomplish 
what you want to do?

Rita in South Carolina

-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:31:48 -, Jack Earnshaw
j...@jearnshaw.me.uk wrote:

Is it possible to, effectively, copy  paste a person to create a second
person with the same name and details?

I have an ancestor where I have now discovered that I have made a mistake.
His mother was Martha Earnshaw, but not the one I thought it was. Part of
the data refers to the correct person and part of it refers to the incorrect
one. Rather than create a new person and copy across the required data from
the other one and then delete the incorrect data from the original person,
it would be nice to be able to just duplicate everything and then
selectively delete the bits that refer to the other person.

The only way I can think of doing this is:

1) Create a new empty database.
2) Open in Split Screen View your original database. Now you have the
   empty database in one MDI window and the original database in the
   other.
3) Drag-n-drop the person you want to copy from the original database to
   the new empty database.
4) Now drag-n-drop the person in the new database back to the old.

I haven't tried this, so let us know if it works.

--

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[LegacyUG] Make a duplicate of a person

[Jack Earnshaw]

Is it possible to, effectively, copy  paste a person to create a second
person with the same name and details?

I have an ancestor where I have now discovered that I have made a mistake.
His mother was Martha Earnshaw, but not the one I thought it was. Part of
the data refers to the correct person and part of it refers to the incorrect
one. Rather than create a new person and copy across the required data from
the other one and then delete the incorrect data from the original person,
it would be nice to be able to just duplicate everything and then
selectively delete the bits that refer to the other person.

Jack




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RE: [LegacyUG] New Build .148

[Jack Earnshaw]

I've found one issue with upgrading as this version reconfigures the database.

I have Legacy on 2 computers, but all my data is kept on one of them - the 
other machine accesses data over my local network.

I upgraded on one machine successfully and my data file was updated to the new 
structure. I then attempted to upgrade on the other machine, but was told that 
my data file was from a newer version and so I couldn't get far enough into 
Legacy to do the upgrade. I had to find another data file to open in order to 
complete the task.

It should still be possible to carry out the upgrade from within Legacy even 
when no file is open (in a similar way as you can from the Home tab). Maybe 
from an option on the internet or help menus.

Jack


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: 16 February 2012 22:53
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] New Build .148

** BACKUP **

** Use the Download Now link on Legacy Home tab **

v7.5.0.148 - New General Release Builds - 16 February 2012


Have a good day.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Opening general notes

[Jack Earnshaw]

Alan

Do you get this for everybody in your file?

I do get this problem with quite a few people, but not everybody. In most 
cases, but oddly not all, it is because there is data in the General or 
Research Notes that is formatted - e.g. Underlined, Bold, Italics. I believe 
that this situation is in Legacy's problem log from a year or so back.

It shouldn't happen and basically a flag gets set incorrectly to say the data 
has been altered, but this obviously gets set immediately on opening the Notes 
in some situations.

Jack


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 10 February 2012 11:54
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Opening general notes

Version 7.5.0.142
OS Windows 7 64 bit
When I open general notes to view an item (no changes) then close it Legacy
asks whether I want to abandon the changes that I have made.  This doesn't
happen on marriage notes.

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[LegacyUG] test if I can receive list messages

[Jack Earnshaw]

I am just checking after resubscribing with my main email address -
previously I couldn't receive any messages with this address and had to use
a different email address. Presumably I should now get two copies if all is
OK.

Jack






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RE: [LegacyUG] curious behavior: Family View to Marr List

[Jack Earnshaw]

This has been happening to me for some months, maybe a year. I've never used 
Access or Ltools, only accessing the data in Legacy or Legacy Charting.

I tried this morning and could confirm that it is always the same people who 
cause the effect. OK if I choose the RIN to be the sort order, but goes to the 
first person on the list for Given Name or Surname. Exiting and restarting 
Legacy made no difference, not did doing a Check/Repair. The people whose 
entries cause the problem have been in my tree for a very long time. The file, 
though, was only created about two years ago by doing an export to  a new file 
after advice from Millenium while trying to get rid of the backup causes error 
91 problem.

I did an export to a new test file this morning and the name list showed up 
correctly for those people. Too many in the file to check them all.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@juno.com]
Sent: 12 November 2010 23:54
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] curious behavior: Family View to Marr List

This behavior was happening to me even before I started using ltools, and I 
don't use Access, and none of the people it happened for were new to my 
database. The other thing I've noticed is that it is consistently the same 
people, not just random entries.


Mary



-- Original Message --
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] curious behavior: Family View to Marr List
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:43:45 +

On 12/11/2010 18:57, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
 Sherry recently suggested (wondered) if some of our problems, (not
 this specifically), might be caused by using Access or ltools. The
 operation might appear successful but something like this would not be
 noticed soon enough to make the connection.

 Jenny,
 Do use Access or ltools?

Yes, I do use Access occasionally but only in a very minor way and I
don't think I do anything that would upset the way Legacy works.
Usually I am just looking at stuff or correcting spelling errors.  The
most interfering thing I do is run the little query to enable merging
of a Basic Source with a SourceWriter one.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] curious behavior: Family View to Marr List

[Jack Earnshaw]

I have Include Alternate Names turned Off, but include Married Names turned On

I turned off the Include Married Names at it worked fine!!

I then turned on the Include Alternate Names and got the fault back. Turning it 
off again and it worked fine.

So, the problem is related to trying to display additional names, be they 
Married or Alternate

Jack


-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek [mailto:kowal...@iglou.com]
Sent: 13 November 2010 14:43
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] curious behavior: Family View to Marr List

On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:11:22 -0800, Richard Van Wasshnova
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:

From Family View clicking on to Name List icon for some people doesn't
work properly.
This works normally for 90% of my individuals. For about 10% if I am
in Family View and click the Name List icon it takes me to the top of
the Name List. Actually it depends on where the cursor was in the name
list. If cursor was in #: it does go to the correct person. If cursor
was in Given: it takes me to someone with no first name (scroll bar is
at top of given name list). If cursor was in Surname: it takes me to
someone with no surname (scroll bar is at top of surname list).
File Check / Repair doesn't fix it. I can fix any one individual by
editing and saving name, then changing it back to original name. I can
fix all by exporting to Legacy file and then importing. I'm reluctant
to use this export/import fix as it resets the Modified Date and
marks everyone as Imported among other things.
Has anyone else ever had this problem? An y ideas for a fix.

To the folks who are experiencing this problem...

Do you have Include Alternate Names in the Name List turned on or off?

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RE: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!

[Jack Earnshaw]

But Sherry, all your messages are coming through to me as HTML. Are you sure 
there isn’t a quirk with the list server?



Jack





From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 19:12
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!



It's not just HTML messages from Gmail..

To quote from the Legacy User Group guidelines:

Please only send messages in plain text format, because:

1. HTML format messages require more server space for archiving than
plain text messages.
2. HTML messages can hide viruses.
3. HTML messages will increase a message's Spam rating by Spam
blocking software.
4. It takes longer for persons with dial-up connections to download
HTML messages.
5. Some older e-mail readers display HTML messages by including
hypertext code, which makes them hard to read.
6. Some people with visual impairment may have difficulty reading
messages with colored text or tinted backgrounds.

For help with sending in messages in plain text format, please visit
http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/listadmins/plaintext.html.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM, marilyn E B marily...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can someone explain why the HTML in gmail is so offensive? It will go
 through on Roots Web lists and there are no complaints.


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RE: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!

[Jack Earnshaw]

And yet, despite the protestations, this email was in HTML.



If you sent it as plain text then something strange is happening



Jack





From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: 26 October 2010 19:31
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!



On 26/10/2010 18:23, Larry McCumber wrote:
 It may not be that they are inconsiderate.

I think it is very inconsiderate.

  Everyone using Legacy is
 not as computer literate as you.

I am as computer literate as I am because I took the trouble to learn.
Before I began to post to newsgroups and mailing lists I took the
trouble to learn what their rules were and how to comply with them.  I
consider this to be no more than common courtesy.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

[Jack Earnshaw]

I just checked this and the problem is still there in 7.4.0.39. Below is an 
extract from a report I just ran

14. Marjorie Best (Alfred John 2, Samuel John 1) was born on 28 Jun 1912 in 
Exmouth, Devon, England and
died in Jul 1988 in Exeter, Devon, England aged 76.
Marjorie married someone Henry H Harry Crane Mar Q 1948 in Devon Central, 
England

When this came up before I think it was suggested the problem might be caused 
by putting the marriage date in before adding the details of the spouse, but 
I've not checked this out

Jack

-Original Message-
From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: 20 May 2010 17:27
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed:

Legacy 7.4 Revision History:
30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of 
the rules for when married someone is used.
12 March 201  Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was 
reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed.

As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a box is 
blank, as in searches.  A command can be written that removes the word 
someone whenever a spouse is entered into that box.  Whether the letters 
constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant.  The box is no longer 
blank.

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the 
previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' 
when I create a Descendant Narrative report?  The word 'someone' is now 
superfluous.  I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered.

Cheers
Jan
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From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'

Ron Ferguson wrote
The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that
these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new
spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain.

Oh heavens, yes!
--
Jenny M Benson






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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

[Jack Earnshaw]

Jim



You aren’t missing anything. The conversion tool hasn’t been released yet.



Jack



From: James Sweet [mailto:jimls38...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 May 2010 23:35
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool



I want to convert my existing master source citations to the SourceWriter 
templates.



In the Help menu, The Source Template Conversion Tool screen says ...The 
Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by 
clicking the Options button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool 
from the submenu.



I pulled up the Master Source List, clicked Options.  But I do not see Source 
Template Conversion Tool on the submenu.  Here is what is listed:

  Delete Master Source

  Tag/Exclude Options

  Change Surety Settings

  Combine Duplicates

  Purge Unused

  Import Lists



What am I missing?



I am currently running version 7.4.0.25



Thank you,

Jim Sweet

email jimls38...@gmail.com



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RE: [LegacyUG] 7.4.0.19 bug??

[Jack Earnshaw]

I’ve just managed to recreate the effect you are having – but wasn’t it always 
like that?



Jack



From: Gene Hutson [mailto:fish...@cableone.net]
Sent: 13 March 2010 13:21
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] 7.4.0.19 bug??



Hello List,



   Just installed the latest update, when entering letters in the User ID field 
in lower case,

it saves and shows as CAPITALIZED.



   I've repeated it several times.



   Anyone else have this problem??



   Thanx,



  Gene Hutson

   Norfolk, Nebraska, USA



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[LegacyUG] squished pop up boxes

[Jack Earnshaw]

The problem of squished pop up boxes for children in Family View appears
to have been fixed in 7.4.0.19

Jack





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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up

[Jack Earnshaw]

Jane



There are several of us who get this problem when trying to do a backup. It’s 
obviously worth doing a check/repair, but it might not cure the problem. The 
Legacy staff haven’t been able to reproduce the problem as yet.



One way that seems to work OK is to do an automatic backup on exit. To get this 
set up use Options/Customise and go to the “Other” tab. Then click the big box 
“turn on or off optional reminder messages”. Select the “prompts/reminders” tab 
and check the third box down – “Reminder to make a backup when exiting Legacy”



I used to get Error 91 nearly every time when trying to do a backup. Since 
doing backups on exit the problem hasn’t happened at all.



Jack



From: Jane Sarles [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 February 2010 17:01
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up



When I try to do a back-up, I get this message:

   Error reading individual;  Error 91: object variables at With band not set.


then my computer locks up.

HELP!

Jane S.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Jack Earnshaw]

Oh please don’t Bill!!

Scotland is a country, as is England, France etc etc.

The only thing that is wrong is a system that tells you that all locations obey 
the 4 field rule. Ie everywhere is the same as the USA. We in the UK have 
accepted for a long time that we just have to put our locations in correctly 
and accept that the software thinks we are wrong. We are not wrong and we 
should enter data in the most meaningful way possible – very similarly to the 
way you would put it on an envelope (where you would never write Great Britain, 
GB, UK etc).

The Geo database is USA centric and that is a shame. The users don’t have to be



Jack



From: Bill Wood [mailto:steamingb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2010 04:42
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy



Thankyou Elizabeth -

 I will try your suggestion and put Scotland in as a State with United Kingdom 
as the Country and see if the Towns are then recognised.

I dont think my Grandad would be impressed with Scotland being demoted from 
Country to State - but that can be our secret .



Regards

Bill





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[LegacyUG] problems with list

[Jack Earnshaw]

I unsubscribed when we went away for Xmas. Then found I had good email
access and tried to subscribe again - used the lists page and also clicked
on the link in the email, getting a message that I had successfully
subscribed.

I haven't had any emails since. I sent a test message and it was in the list
archives, but I didn't even get that one sent back to me. There are
obviously ongoing messages on the list. I never had problems before and
haven't changed email addresses etc. Any clues what might be the problem?

If you can help, please send an email direct as I won't see it otherwise!

Jack








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RE: [LegacyUG] problems with list

[Jack Earnshaw]

Hi Brian

It seems to be my domain system, rather than the ISP. I subscribed again with 
my direct ISP email address and got your reply. But nothing has come via my 
proper email address (j...@jearnshaw.me.uk) where everything is forwarded to my 
ISP. So I'd better tackle the domain name supplier.

Thanks

Jack

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From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: 29 December 2009 17:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] problems with list

1. Check your own ISP to see if junk mail filters are enabled and they are 
somehow deleting the LUG messages.
2. Check your own client email program to see same.

Brian in CA


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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:59 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] problems with list

I unsubscribed when we went away for Xmas. Then found I had good email
access and tried to subscribe again - used the lists page and also clicked
on the link in the email, getting a message that I had successfully
subscribed.

I haven't had any emails since. I sent a test message and it was in the list
archives, but I didn't even get that one sent back to me. There are
obviously ongoing messages on the list. I never had problems before and
haven't changed email addresses etc. Any clues what might be the problem?

If you can help, please send an email direct as I won't see it otherwise!

Jack








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RE: [LegacyUG] Mother Previous Marrige

[Jack Earnshaw]

Mary

Don't get confused between two different packages. Legacy Charting Companion is 
a separate package that can be bought via the Legacy web site or direct from 
Progeny Software.
Legacy Charting is a separate program but directly linked to, and included 
with, Legacy deluxe.

Jack


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From: Mary Legarth [mailto:legar...@levin.pl.net]
Sent: 19 December 2009 20:28
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mother Previous Marrige

Abdul,
Legacy Charting which I mentioned, is a separate programme, in addition to 
Legacy 7 Delux.
From memory it was not very expensive,  I bought it in New Zealand $.

Mary

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From: Abdul Haqq [mailto:haq...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 19 December 2009 9:57 p.m.
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mother Previous Marrige

Thank Mary and Margaret,

I think Mary may be right and I need to buy the full version of Legacy.
It says it is restricted to 4 Generations in  the free mode. I have
tried to generate a chart on myself but only parents and grand parents
come up.
Either the settings are wrong (default) or it is part of the
restrictions. In the meantime I will continue to enter data as I get it.

Thanks

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