Re: [Mac-access]: IOS: copying text from webpages using voiceover and IOS 8.2
If you own the excellent Voice Dream Reader IOS app (VDR), you might try opening the website in VDR and selecting / copying the text using the alternative method provided in that app. It’s still not a perfect solution, but is better than the default method provided in IOS, IMHO. HTH, Bryan On 25/03/2015 21:05, Diane Bomare wrote: I need to copy and paste text from several web pages, for an urgent project. I have tried pinching, but that only selects a letter, word, or line. Edit is not available on the rotor when viewing a web page. I need to extract the text so that I can use it as notes for a document, that I am preparing. I have also tried doing this with the mac, but will cover that in a separate post. I do have an iPad mini, if anyone know of a way to do this with an iPad, that won't work on the iPhone. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome
Regarding the problems using VO+Arrow keys to move through web pages in Chrome under Yosemite, we’ve had some discussion about this on Google’s general accessibility mailing list, and Victor at Google has opened the following ticket: Issue 455118 - chromium - [A11Y] VoiceOver gets stuck on web pages while navigating with VoiceOver cursor keys. HTH, Bryan On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote: I used to be able to tab and/or vo left or right arrow to go through the page and read more than the links. I could interact with areas but now I get very little info at a time. Maybe a line or two at the most. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome
Thank you for providing an example website, David. My testing of the page you linked mirrored what I’ve been seeing on most other websites: The latest versions of both Chrome Stable and Chrome Canary work fine with VoiceOver under Mavericks 10.9.5, but those same versions of CHrome have a number of VoiceOver issues under all versions of Yosemite. This is one of several reasons why I have not yet upgraded my production Macs to Yosemite. Systems tested: 2013 Macbook Air 11 2008 Macbook OS X 10.9.5 OS X 10.10.2 Chrome Stable version 40.0.2214.94 Chrome Canary version 42.0.2292.0 -Bryan On Jan 31, 2015, at 12:19 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: I don't quite understand why people are not seeing the obvious problem with the latest Google Chrome as it is pretty clear it has been badly broken since the last update, and is unusable with Voiceover now using default dom view. . Basically for example if you go to www.bbc.co.uk/news you will now find it is impossible to read any news content with Voiceover using dom view. You can only read element like headings etc. by tedious pressing of the tab button with no ability to read any actual news content. If you turn Chrome Vox on then the news content does become readable with that alternative screen reader but the previous accessibility which used to be possible with Voiceover has been broken. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome
Is there anything in particular you are wondering about? In my limited testing of the latest version of Chrome under Yosemite 10.10.2, I’ve been able to use the standard VO web navigation commands to move through pages just as I would when navigating in Safari. There are, however, at least two notable bugs as listed in Google ticket 439695. The first bug is that the web rotor as accessed with the VO+U keystroke is completely non-functional. The second issue is that the standard VO+Shift+Down Arrow keystroke fails to interact with the HTML content. The simple workaround for this one is to use the tab key to move VO focus into the web content. Note that neither of these bugs exists when running the same version of Chrome under Mavericks. HTH, Bryan On Jan 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote: Does anyone have any tips using google chrome with usenity and VO? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome
Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is different now? On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote: One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I cannot read the pages as easily as before. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
[Mac-access]: Seeking suggestions for a more powerful OS X clipboard
Greetings All, I’m interested to hear from anyone who is successfully using any sort of VO-accessible alternative to the standard MacOS Clipboard. In particular, I am interested in one specific feature: the ability to use the “Copy last phrase to clipboard” command (VO+Shift+C) to copy multiple consecutive or non-consecutive items to the clipboard without overwriting the previous item. I am a frequent User of this particular VO command, and there have been many times when I’ve thought I could increase my productivity and decrease the number of redundant keystrokes by simply being able to invoke this command repeatedly and have the content copy itself into some sort of non-volatile version of the built-in clipboard for future retrieval. I came across another example this morning where I thought about how useful this ability would be. I have received a number of emails from students who are requesting that I help contact publishers to request accessible versions of textbooks. These emails usually include lists of the book titles with edition, author, publisher and ISBN. Usually, I only need the ISBN, so I will go through each email, find each ISBN, use the VO “Copy last phrase to clipboard” command to copy the number, use the standard Command+V to paste the item into a spreadsheet, return to the email, and repeat the process for each ISBN in each email. I’d really like to just copy the first item to the clipboard, navigate to the next ISBN, copy it to the clipboard without having it overwrite the first instance, and repeat this process for all ISBN numbers, then go to the clipboard or to the destination document and paste the entire list. Thoughts appreciated, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Question about movies from the itunes store
I can try to answer a few of your questions. My responses are based on results from the US iTunes store accessed through iTunes 12.0.1 running under MacOS 10.9.5. YMMV. If a movie is available both for rent and for purchase, VO will speak the first 2 Form Control items as price, purchase, title,” and “price, rent, title.” For example, if I navigate to the movie titled “Best in Show” and then open the web rotor and go to the list of form controls, the first 2 items announce “$9.99, Purchase, Best in Show,” and “$2.99, Rent, Best in Show.” If a movie is available only for purchase, I only hear the purchase option. For your example of “The Imitation Game,” I hear “$19.99, Pre-Order, The Imitation Game.” Regarding the meaning of “pre-order,” I googled itunes.com what is pre-order and the first result was the following Apple KB article. http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202723 Regarding streaming of audio described movies: I am pretty sure there are currently no sources for legally renting and streaming movies with bundled audio description tracks here in the US. FWIW, there are a handful of audio described movies for purchase and download in the US iTunes store. These all seem to be Disney titles, and can be found by searching for “DVS. For example, here is a link to purchase the audio described version of the movie titled “Up!” in the US iTunes store. https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/up-for-blind-viewers-audio/id327127329 HTH, Bryan On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: When I look up a movie title on the iTunes store I see a price of around £14 for HD and £10 for SD. I am unclear on whether this is the rental price or the purchase price. This may arise because the movies I looked up are recent releases (Mr Turner and the Imitation Game) and may not be available for both rental and purchase. I am primarily interested in rental. i see that rented movies have to be watched within 30 days of download and once started watching has to be completed within 48 hours. Can I only watch a rented movie once within the 30 days? both the above movies are listed as pre-order. what does this mean? Is audio description standard in all movies from the iTunes store? If so do I have to do anything special to enable audio description? If it is not standard are there options to enable me to choose a version with audio description? How do I know which movies have audio description and which do not? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Mail with Yosemite
Clean installs of 10.10.1 on 2 different Macs here have yielded no love with VO+J in either Finder or Mail in Classic view. I wonder what might be different between our systems. Interestingly, it seems to be the sidebar VO+J has an aversion to. If I show the path bar in Finder, VO+J will reliably hop back and forth between the list of applications and the path bar, and if I have the preview pane showing in Mail’s classic view, VO+J will gladly hop between the message list and the preview pane; however, if the path bar and preview pane are hidden, VO+J will jump from the sidebar to the file list or message list but will not hop back. On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:57 AM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote: After much frustration with the vo j command, I had the hard disk on my macbok air erased, followed by a clean install of Yosemite, and now the command works perfectly, at least in Mail and the Finder. So, if anyone is having the same problem, it's worth persevering -- it can work in Yosemite. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: fine reader pro
I see HP has a specific set of instructions for installing ICA drivers on ML. If you haven’t already tried this procedure, maybe it’s worth checking out. http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03428470 Also, what happens when you try to scan using one of the native apps such as Preview or Image Capture? On Dec 6, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi , I now can get nothing to work with ICA driver there is an empty list now in HP manager. even if the scanners seems to scan there is nothing there. Judy On 3 Dec 2014, at 08:45, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hello Judy, My first thought would be to make sure your Mac has the latest ICA compliant driver for your scanner model installed. If I remember correctly, FineReader Express used TWAIN scanner drivers while FineReader Pro uses ICA drivers. You can probably get the latest driver by either running software update on the Mac or by going to HP’s website and checking the available drivers for your scanner model. You might also look at Apple’s website listing compatible printers/scanners. The US version of that page can be found here: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201465 If that does not resolve your issue, can you provide the following information? 1. What model is your HP scanner? 2. What version of MacOS are you running? 3. How is your scanner communicating with your Mac? (USB, Wi-Fi, etc) 4. What is your FineReader version? 5. What is the version of your installed HP scanner driver? HTH, Bryan On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote: I downloaded Fine reader pro from the AP store last night as it was on special offer. My HP scanner works with Abbeyfine Express but I can't get Fine reader pro to recognise the scanner it just says no device connected. So how do I connect it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: fine reader pro
Hello Judy, My first thought would be to make sure your Mac has the latest ICA compliant driver for your scanner model installed. If I remember correctly, FineReader Express used TWAIN scanner drivers while FineReader Pro uses ICA drivers. You can probably get the latest driver by either running software update on the Mac or by going to HP’s website and checking the available drivers for your scanner model. You might also look at Apple’s website listing compatible printers/scanners. The US version of that page can be found here: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201465 If that does not resolve your issue, can you provide the following information? 1. What model is your HP scanner? 2. What version of MacOS are you running? 3. How is your scanner communicating with your Mac? (USB, Wi-Fi, etc) 4. What is your FineReader version? 5. What is the version of your installed HP scanner driver? HTH, Bryan On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote: I downloaded Fine reader pro from the AP store last night as it was on special offer. My HP scanner works with Abbeyfine Express but I can't get Fine reader pro to recognise the scanner it just says no device connected. So how do I connect it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: adding a yahoo account to apple mail
googling the words apple.com adding yahoo mail account yosemite: returned the following KB article which explains how to add accounts to mail: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH19132 On Nov 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, wui chin Leong adrianleon...@icloud.com wrote: i went to the accounts panel and it only said that my i cloud was selected.Should i remove the i cloud account? then re addd the yahoo email account On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: What happens when you try to add the yahoo account? what error messages do you get, what steps have you taken to try an fix it? Please post the relevant stuff in the body of the messages --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How to tell if I am on the release level of Yosemite
Hello Paul, On my clean install of the released US version of Yosemite, I go to Apple Menu About this Mac System Report Software, and here I am seeing “System Version OS X 10.10 (14A389). HTH, Bryan On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: So do I now have the official released of Mac OS 10.10? Is there any way to be sure? If not what should I do? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible HTML Editor on IOS
+1, I’d also be interested in this, especially if it can handle CSS JS alongside HTML. On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Twas a long time ago now but I recall someone on this list working with a developer of a HTML editor for IOS and between them the App was being made accessible, I’m curious to know if anything at all came of this? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
ABBYY FineReader Pro 12 patch released to fix Yosemite conflict
ABBYY has released version 12.0.7 of FineReader Pro for Mac, which fixes a crash that occured under OS 10.10 Yosemite. If you purchased FineReader Pro outside of the Apple App store, the 600mb download is available now from the link on the following website: http://finereader.abbyy.com/pro_for_mac/ THe update for the App Store version does not appear to be available yet as of this message, at least not in the US App Store. ABBYY has an FAQ indicating it should be available by the end of this week. HTH, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
ABBYY FineReader Pro is apparently not yet compatible with Yosemite
A word of caution for folks who rely on FineReader Pro: ABBYY posted the following comment on their FB page yesterday: FineReader Professional for Mac is not compatible with Mac OS Yosemite at this time. However, the retail version update is expected to be available late next week on the AppStore. Please check back for updates. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader Pro is apparently not yet compatible with Yosemite
Hey, I don’t know. On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, will this effect fine reader press asweel, or only the professional version? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone camera stand.
Call me frugal or maybe just cheap, but I personally think this is one of those instances where a DIY solution is worth considering. A cardboard box of the right size can easily be cut, folded and customized to make a free and flexible stand. Using KNFB’ Reader’s edge detection, it is relatively easy to determine the height necessary for your particular iDevice and paper size. HTH, Bryan - Original Message - From: Jim Noseworthy Subject: iPhone camera stand. Any recommendations for an iPhone camera stand suitable for using the KNFB reader? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks folder attributes
Hello David, I think I understand now what you are saying. You are expecting a new Finder window to open when you press one of the “go to folder…” hotkey combos. Is that correct? Is that how it behaved for you prior to Mavericks? If yes, do you recall if there was a toggle in Finder Prefs prior to Mavericks that switched between opening folders in a new window or opening them in the current window? If there was, I must have always set it to open in the current window as that is the behavior I seem to unconsciously expect, but I can certainly understand being frustrated if the other option was taken away in Mavericks. My memory is not the greatest, but I think I’ve always used the “go to folder…” hotkeys to change the folder in the current window, which is the way it is working for me under Mavericks. For example, if I start out by closing all Finder windows leaving the Finder showing just the Desktop, and then follow the steps you listed in your previous email, I get the following results: 1. GO to the Computer folder with command shift c. This opens a new Finder window focussed on “Bryan’s Macbook Air,” aka the Computer. 2. Press command shift H to go to the Home folder. This changes the focus in the current Finder window from Computer to Home. 3. Press command shift A to go to the Applications folder. This changes the focus in the current Finder window from Home to Applications. Note that on my system this process does not close any windows, it only changes the selected folder within the current window. If I’ve opened multiple Finder windows with the Command+N hotkey as I normally do, pressing a “go to folder” hotkey in any of those only changes the folder in that particular window and neither closes nor changes the other open Finder windows. HTH, Bryan On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:32 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: No I am not in full screen mode. I have just gone to the Finder view menu and the only element showing was the Tool bar. The sidebar and status bar and tab bar are all set to be hidden. I also have column view enabled. I also checked that I was not in full screen mode I then open computer with with command shift c, the home folder with command shift H and the the application folder with command shift A. When I then checked Window Chooser only the application window was open and the computer and home windows had been closed.. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks folder attributes
Hello Ian David, I’m not sure if I’m understanding you correctly, so please excuse if this reply is off target. In OS 10.9.5 I have no problems opening a bunch of Finder windows (COmmand+N) and cycling through them by pressing the standard Command+` key combo. On the US Keyboard layout of my MBA, the “` key is the leftmost key in the number row. On my Apple wireless ISO Spanish keyboard, this key is located immediately to the left of the “Z” key. I’m not sure where it is found on a UK layout. Also, I do not hide the Sidebar, and in my Finder Preferences, the item “Open folders in tabs instead of windows,” found under the General heading, is unchecked. HTH, Bryan On Sep 28, 2014, at 10:15 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: It was suggested to me that I turn off the tabbed open in tabs feature of Finder and also hide the sidebar. I have done both but it has failed to do anything so if I am working across multiple windows it is , as you say highly inefficient as you have to tediously keep on locating and reopening these windows. On 28 Sep 2014, at 10:52, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: under mavericks I can't seem to find a way to have windows open in a new window without closing all others. I prefer to work with lots of windows open and used to do so in mountain lion, but there doesn't seem to be a preference for this in mavericks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks folder attributes
Are you running Finder in Full Screen Mode by any chance? I rarely use full screen mode, but did notice behavior similar to what you are describing when I tried it. On Sep 28, 2014, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: I have the exact same settings as you but when I open a new window this always automatically closes the last window I was in. So the cycle through windows command has no use. Also if I pull up the window chooser I have only the current window and go to desktop as options no matter how many windows I have opened. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?
ALthough I generally prefer to live on the bleeding edge when it comes to OS upgrades, I depend on a number of apps for work school and thus am sometimes willing to wait for clearance from Devs or other trustworthy and level-headed Users of critical apps before upgrading. For example, the VoiceDream Reader Dev tweeted the following: VoiceOver users: Do not update to iOS 8 until the next Voice Dream update. You can't change voices.” HTH, Bryan On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I would encourage you to wait. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please
Here is the workflow I generally follow when using ABBYY FineReader Pro on my Mac in combination with a WiFi connected scanner to scan, import, OCR and export single- or multipage documents. These instructions were written based on FineReader Pro version 12.0.6, MacOS 10.9.5, a 2013 Macbook Air, and a Canon Pixma MX922 MFP. These instructions assume the User has a working knowledge of VoiceOver and a compatible and functioning scanner connected wired or wirelessly to a mac with the proper scanner drivers and the latest version of FineReader Pro installed. 1. Load the paper document(s) into the scanner. 2. Launch FineReader Pro. 3. If FineReader does not automatically open to a “New Task” dialog, press Command+N to open the New Task dialog. The New Task dialog Is laid out roughly in the form of a table and is relatively intuitive, but there are a few confusingly labeled items, so I will include some additional notes at the end of these instructions. 4. In the New Task dialog, highlight your scanner in the Sources table, make sure the correct Document Language(s) are selected, and then press VO+Spacebar on the desired export format. This will open a new window where you can specify various scan options specific to your scanner. I assume these options will vary depending on the make, model features of the selected scanner. On my system I have options such as flat-bed or ADF, duplex mode, scan area, color depth, resolution and detect orientation. 5. After you have selected the desired scan settings, navigate to the button labeled “Scan” and press VO+Spacebar to activate it. Your scanner should begin scanning. I’m not sure if there is an official VO-accessible way to monitor scan progress, but I normally either listen to the scanner or monitor the Scan button, whose name will toggle between “Scan” and “Stop Scanning” depending on scan status. 6. When all pages have been scanned, navigate to the button labeled “Finish import” and press VO+Spacebar to activate it. A dialog box will provide progress information as FineReader recognizes the text. 7. When the recognition process has completed, a standard OSX File Save As dialog opens where you will name the file, choose the location where you’d like it saved, and click the Export button to complete the process. A few notes regarding the “New Task” window. 1. I suggest spending a few minutes familiarizing oneself with the items in the New Task window by exploring with the VO+left and VO+right arrows. 2. There are two items in the New Task window that don’t seem to do anything: one spoken simply as “Label” and the other spoken simply as “Image.” 3. There is a mislabeled button spoken as either “Go right, unchecked” or “Go left, unchecked.” Pressing VO+Spacebar on this item will toggle it and will also toggle between the “Quick conversion” and “Conversion format” labels. As far as I can tell, all this does is switch the list of available export formats between the short list displayed in the “Quick COnversion” list, and the full list shown in the “COnversion Formats” list. HTH, Bryan On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca wrote: Would be interested in learning more about how you use FRP to interface directly with my scanner for importing scanned paper documents, --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please
Hello Ian, Here is the workflow I normally follow when using FineReader Pro (FRP) to convert existing PDF image files or other files I want to OCR. This is the quick method and basically involves opening the document in FRP, allowing the automatic recognition process to complete, and then exporting the resulting text to the desired file format. This quick process works fine for the vast majority of my OCR needs. Note that these instructions are for processing existing digital documents such as PDF files. I also use FRP to interface directly with my scanner for importing scanned paper documents, and I can write up a separate set of instructions for that process if you need them. 1. In the FInder, navigate to the file you wish to OCR. 2. Press VO+Shift+M to open the shortcut menu, and choose “Open with… FineReader Pro. 3. The file will open in FRP and FRP will automatically start the process of “Recognizing” the document. A dialog box provides status information on this process. 4. When the recognition process has completed, you might encounter a dialog box with a message or messages warning you of any problems encountered during the recognition process. Close the warning dialog when you’ve finished reading it. 5. Press Command+S to open the Export dialog. 6. Select the format you wish to export the document to, and adjust any associated options if desired, then click Next. This opens a standard OSX File Save As dialog where you will name the file, choose the location where you’d like it saved, and click the Export button to complete the process. HTH, Bryan On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: I have just got the pro version of the above to help with my upcoming university studies and I am struggling to get started with it. I have been searching for a tutorial without any real luck. Can anyone point me towards a written or audio guide for use with voice over or even just a straight quick start guide. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: KNFB Reader Does it work on the iPad?
Hello Martin, Here is a brief summary of my experience attempting to install and use the KNFB Reader app on my iPad. YMMV, and I am by no means recommending that anyone attempt to install and run this app on an unsupported device. Having already purchased, installed fallen in love with the KNFB Reader app on my iPhone 5S running IOS 7.1.2, I decided to ignore the stated system requirements and install it on my WiFi iPad Mini retina running IOS 8. The app showed up as installable (already paid for) in the App Store on the iPad, and I had no issues with the installation process on the iPad. The first thing I noticed after installation is that there is a pronounced lag when navigating the app’s interface on my iPad. There is a delay of several seconds when swiping or touching from item to item. For testing purposes, I ignored this lag and took several pictures of a computer screen and a printed text document, both of which were OCR’d and read aloud quickly. I attempted to toggle on “tilt guidance” but it remained off, which led me to wonder if perhaps there is no vibration built into the iPad. I’m not sure. I also tried the “field of view report” a half-dozen times but managed to receive spoken feedback with the edge and clockface report just once. I did not attempt to dig further into any of the settings or options, nor did I attempt any sort of troubleshooting. That was the extent of my testing. I am very happy with the performance of this app on my iPhone, and I imagine the Devs have some good technical reasons for leaving the current crop of iPads out of the supported device list. HTH, Bryan On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: The IPad I have is about 2 years old and came with IOS6 installed. I have since upgraded it to IOS7 and will upgrade to 8 shortly so it runs the right versions of IOS for the KNFB Reader but IPads weren't mentioned at all in their list of supported devices. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amadeus Pro not working with the latest security update on Mavericks
Can you provide the exact version numbers of the products in question? I am having no problem launching Amadeus Pro version 2.1.6 on a 2013 MBA running the latest build of Mavericks including yesterday’s 10.9.5 release and all current patches as reported in the app store app. Bryan On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: just a heads up for any Amadeus Pro users. after installing the latest Mavericks security update today Amadeus Pro does not even open. you click on the app and nothing happens. i think all we can do is wait for an update from the developer of Amadeus Pro. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Deleting Virtual Machines in VmWare Fusion
Here is a VMWare KB Aricle titled “Deleting a Virtual Machine in Fusion. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1003420 HTH, Bryan On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:. I want to keep Question is: is there a way for me to delete the machine without uninstalling Fusion? Thanks in advance. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amadeus Pro not working with the latest security update on Mavericks
Also, here’s a forum thread which includes input from the Dev specifically addressing this issue found in MacOS 10.9.5 and later. Thread includes links to updated releases of Amadeus 2.x and 1.x and a workaround for versions purchased through the app store. http://www.hairersoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8102sid=f3dd52c8f1b3deb5b2e643b81733641a HTH, Bryan On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Can you provide the exact version numbers of the products in question? I am having no problem launching Amadeus Pro version 2.1.6 on a 2013 MBA running the latest build of Mavericks including yesterday’s 10.9.5 release and all current patches as reported in the app store app. On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: just a heads up for any Amadeus Pro users. after installing the latest Mavericks security update today Amadeus Pro does not even open. you click on the app and nothing happens. i think all we can do is wait for an update from the developer of Amadeus Pro. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Facebook apps and refund of app.
Hello Sean — I regularly experience the first 3 issues in your list. Here are a handfull of other FB App issues I experience with some regularity. This is on an iPhone 5S, IOS 7.1.2, FB App version 14. 1. In general, when attempting to open a post by performing a one finger double-tap, or when attempting to “interact” with a post by performing a two finger double-tap, the behavior is just absurdly unpredictable. Sometimes things work exactly as expected, but often the results leave me scratching my head. I regularly encounter obstacles such as the Ufi overlay tag” message, the “unfollow this person” message, the “item selected” message or sometimes just complete silence. 2. Double-tapping a “Like” button prduces unpredictable results. Sometimes it works as expected to show that I like a post, other times it jumps to a different location in the thread, and occasionally it even activates a different link or button somewhere else on the screen. 3. If I am reading through my newsfeed and perform a one-finger double-tap to open a particular post so that I might read comments or follow an embedded URL or whatever, I am often stonewalled by VO saying “item selected” but the post not actually opening. The only way I’ve found past this is to triple-click-home to turn VO off, perform a single one finger tap in the approximate screen location where I think the desired post resides, and then turn VO back on. Of course, this means I sometimes activate something I did not want to. 4. If I enter a post because I want to read some external content the poster has included, such as a link to an external site or a link to the body of a shared article, there is no way to move item-by-item within the post in order to focus on the URL. The only option is to double-tap the body of the post and hope it activates the desired object, which often does not happen. 5. When attempting to post a photo, the FB interface to the camera roll is still not very VO-friendly. If you haven’t already done so, I’d recommend submitting feedback to FB via the following form: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/169372943117927 HTH, Bryan On Sep 1, 2014, at 4:45 AM, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote: 1. When in news feed. It tells you to perform a 2 finger double tap. This opens a dialog that asks you to stop following. I want to open the news feed and review the comments. Cannot do this. 2. When I open some notifications, speech stops if there is a photo. If I go to the home screen and back into the Facebook app. It works. 3. When looking through notifications and news feeds. If you use the left and right swipe to move between elements. It sometimes dings and doesn’t move. Other times it refreshes and throwing me off the current item I am trying to use. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Is Taco still the recommended accessible HTML editor?
Greetings All, Is anyone successfully using VO to access all features of Taco or another HTML Editor under OS 10.9? A quick search of the list archive indicates that Taco has been recommended in the past, but it’s been a couple of years since the topic of HTML editors was discussed seriously. I’m starting an intro HTML CSS class which is being taught using Notepad++ on Windows 7, and am limping by using NVDA, but am not really fluent yet in any Windows screen-reader, so would prefer to be able to do the same sorts of things that can be done in Notepad++ but do them on the Mac using my familiar VO. TIA, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: I think I broke mail
Hello Sarah, Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row. 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail. 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers. 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header. 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click. 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it. 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column in it’s new location. 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus to the body of the messages list. HTH, Bryan On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible firewall for the mac?
Hello Michael, Little Snitch is a great security utility, and much of it is actually quite VO accessible. Unfortunately, you will need a sighted person to tick one checkbox in order to turn on that accessibility. I’ve included instructions below. (Please don’t flame the messenger about this particular accessibility gotcha… I’ve already had my beard singed previously on this same subject, thread available in the archives.) :-) Also, please be forewarned that This app is not for the impatient or faint-of-heart. It can be very chatty and verbose in it’s default configuration. However, for the User who is willing and able to take the time to learn and configure the myriad settings within this app, it can provide some good information and another layer of security. Here’s how to install the app and enable VO access. This assumes the latest releases of Mavericks and Little Snitch. 1. Install Little Snitch and restart the Mac when prompted. While the Little Snitch installation process is VO accessible, I recommend not installing it unless a sighted person is available to perform steps 2 through 5 below, otherwise Little Snitch might start blocking network communications with no way for a blind User to know what is happening. 2. Launch applications / Little Snitch Configuration.app 3. Open the Little Snitch Preferences. 4. In the Security tab, tick the checkbox labeled “Allow GUI Scripting..” This will enable VO to interact with most parts of Little Snitch. You might need to restart the Mac again at this point. One part of the app which I’m pretty sure is not VO accessible is the “Network Monitor” pane. HTH, Bryan On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a program called Little snitch which looked perfect but alas was a complete waste of time in terms of accessibility? completely useless. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader Pro on sale for US $74.99 until August 3rd.
Hello Judy, Here’s a link to ABBYY’s listing of some of the differences. http://finereader.abbyy.com/pro_for_mac/compare_vs_express/ HTH, Bryan On Aug 1, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote: What is the difference between the fine reader pro and express? I have express and it seems fine. *** IMPORTANT *** PLEASE READ! In advance of our migration to the new server, our members database is now complete. Therefore, if you are planning to make changes to your Mac Access subscription preferences, please be advised that you'll now need to contact us manually if you wish your changes to be migrated to the new server. This is extremely important, if you want to avoid the frustration of bouncing messages; so please don't say I didn't know] if things go wrong because you never told us. If you just joined the group and want to know what this is about, please contact supp...@mac-access.net for information. This irritating little message will be removed shortly; but we need to ensure that the message gets through! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
ABBYY FineReader Pro on sale for US $74.99 until August 3rd.
Greetings everyone, The ABBYY FineReader Pro OCR application is on sale in the US Mac App Store for $74.99 until August 3, 2014. It normally sells for $99.99. Sorry, I don’t know if this sale applies outside of the US. A trial version of FineReader Pro can be downloaded from ABBYY’s website at http://download.abbyy.com. FineReader can recognize a huge number of different languages, and can properly handle documents that contain more than one language. It can be operated in a simple mode that requires little interaction, or you can opt to manually control almost every aspect of the import/scan/convert/export process if you prefer. FineReader can open and convert files from your local drives, from the camera roll of an attached iDevice, and from supported scanners. FineReader Pro performs the OCR process on the local machine rather than in “the cloud,” so an Internet connection is not required during the process. I consider this app and it’s predecessor, FineReader Express, to be two of the most helpful productivity apps I’ve utilized as a blind Mac User. I have used them to OCR thousands of pages of textbooks, bills, magazines, PDF image files, and even screenshots of apps websites that contain inaccessible text elements. HTH, Bryan *** IMPORTANT *** PLEASE READ! In advance of our migration to the new server, our members database is now complete. Therefore, if you are planning to make changes to your Mac Access subscription preferences, please be advised that you'll now need to contact us manually if you wish your changes to be migrated to the new server. This is extremely important, if you want to avoid the frustration of bouncing messages; so please don't say I didn't know] if things go wrong because you never told us. If you just joined the group and want to know what this is about, please contact supp...@mac-access.net for information. This irritating little message will be removed shortly; but we need to ensure that the message gets through! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How do I type letters with accents over them?
Hello Andy, Here’s the method I usually use to enter variants of a character in Mac. I select from the list of alternative characters that pops up automatically when I press and hold a letter key for a few seconds. For example, On my Macbook Air running OS 10.9.4, if I am composing an email and my cursor is in the body of the email and I want to type the letter you mentioned, the “n” with a tilde over it, I can press and hold the “n” key for a couple of seconds, release the key, then press the right arrow key to hear alternative character choices, then press the Return key to select and insert the desired character. Note that this feature is not implemented perfectly across all applications running under Mac OS. For example, in Textedit I can use the left or right arrow keys by themselves to navigate through all alternative characters that pop up, but in Mail Pages I need to use a combination of the arrow keys and VO+arrow keys in order to fully navigate these popups. I suggest spending a few minutes testing this out with letters that offer big lists of alternate characters, such as “a” and “e” and you’ll quickly get a feel for how it works. Regarding your keyboard layout, you can check your keyboards in System Preferences / Keyboard / Input sources. While you’re at it, you might want to also verify your language Region settings in System Preferences / Language and Region. HTH, Bryan On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: ...but I don't know how to type it so that it becomes part of a written letter; for example, I want to write 'n' with a Tilde over it, but holding down shift accent and 'n' just gives me a Tilde followed by a capitol 'n'. Incidentally, I'm thinking this keyboard on this MBA is set up as a US keyboard, because the 'at sign' for instance, is over the number 2, and I'm use to having the quote sign on the number 2 key. Can the keyboard layout be changed on an MBA to UK english? - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Thunder bird
Hello Margaret, I recently gave Thunderbird 24.6.0 a look on my 2013 Macbook Air running OS 10.9.4, but I gave up on it because there seems to be no accessible way to perform the mildly important task of adding or importing email accounts, as noted in items 3, 4 5 of my findings below. I didn’t test the app any further after hitting this roadblock. 1. The installation process is accessible. 2. Initial launch of the app presents an inaccessible dialog which can be closed by pressing Escape. 3. Thunderbird / Preferences is completely inaccessible to VO. 4. Tools / Account Settings is completely inaccessible to VO. 5. Tools / Import is completely inaccessible to VO. HTH, Bryan On Jul 20, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: Is thunder bird accessible using voice on a mac? If it is accessible can someone tell me how to use it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Access to the bookmark bar.
Hello Jim, In Safari 7 under Mavericks, the Bookmark Favorites Bar is managed within the Bookmarks editor, which can be opened from within Safari by pressing Command+Option+B. Once you are in the Bookmarks editor, navigate to the item helpfully labeled simply as “Table” and interact with it. In this table you will find folders named Favorites Bar and Bookmarks Menu.” There might also be other folders and/or individual bookmarks, depending on how your Bookmarks are organized. I personally find this bookmark editor to be a bit clumsy to navigate with VO, but haven’t found a better alternative. Here are a couple of quick tips I find helpful when working in this editor: If you want to cut paste bookmarks and/or folders from one location to another, use Command+X / Command+V, rather than the Finder’s keystroke combo of Command+C / Command+Option+V, which does not seem to work here. The VO keystroke to select multiple non-contiguous items, VO+COmmand+Return, seems to work OK here. If you prefer to drag drop, using VO’s mouse down/up keystroke to drag drop single bookmarks or folders seems to work fine and is properly verbose as it speaks the bookmarks/folders being passed. HTH, Bryan On Jul 20, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: How does 1 edit the bookmark bar in Mavericks? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Still can't scan with K3000
Hello Juaanita, As I mentioned in my origianl post, K3000 is not designed for blind Users, but I’ve found that much of the application can be accessed using menu choices and keystrokes to scan and read aloud. It’s certainly nowhere near a perfect solution, but you said you were looking for a scanning app that would also read the document aloud within the same app, and this is the one I know about. The Kurzweil support rep you spoke with is wrong about needing to select an area before scanning. I work with students all the time who scan single or multiple pages directly into K3000 without needing to select anything. Here are the steps that work for me on my system, a canon mx922 MFP connected via wi-fi to a 2013 MBA running 10.9.4 K3000 version 5.26. Please try these steps yourself and let me know where it fails and what message you receive. 1. Place document to be scanned in the scanner. 2. Launch K3000. 3. Either select “Scan” from the Starting Points window that opens when you launch the app, or choose Scan / Scan New Document from the menu bar. This opens a window to select the scanner and options. 4. Select the scanner and options as desired. 5. Activate the Scan button. The scanning process begins. 6. After scanning, the scanned document automatically opens in a window with a name like “untitled document 1.” 7. Use the reading commands to read the document. 8. The scanned document can be saved in .KES, TXT or RTF formats using the standard File/Save As command. HTH, Bryan On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I went to the Epson site and downloaded and installed the latest twain driver for the Epson Perfection V33. I still couldn’t get it to scan so I called Kurzwiel and spoke to a technician. He said that K3000 was not designed for the visually impaired and that you had to visually draw the area of the page that you want to scan. He also had me bring up Image capture. He was able to scan remotely and I could listen to the page being read. He also said that VO wasn’t showing the window where you preview the page before scanning it. Does any of this make sense? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Epson, K3000, and the slot loading door
Juaanita, K3000 will automatically detect compatible scanners whose TWAIN drivers are installed on your Mac. My suggestion would be to quit K3000, unplug the scanner from your Mac, go to Epson’s website, download the latest TWAIN driver for your model of scanner, install the driver, re-attach the scanner, launch K3000,, and attemtp to initiate a scan job from within K3000. I believe at this point K3000 will auto-detect available compatible scanners and list them for you. If that doesn’t work, please post back and include the exact scanner make and model, driver version, connection type, OS version,. HTH, Bryan On Jul 6, 2014, at 8:22 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I can’t get the Epson scanner to scan so I put the disk in to see if I needed to install something from it. The only thing I see in the Epson menu is the quit command. Now I can’t get the slot loading door on the external disk drive to pop the disk out. I thought the command was the far right button on the top row plus e. Is that not the command to get the disk out? Also, when I try to scan with the K3000, it just says dimmed or waiting for scan. I didn’t see anywhere to set up the scanner with the software. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Step by step or tutorial on Abby Fine Reader
Hello Juaanita, The Help menu is located in the Menu Bar. When I registered FineReader Pro on my Mac it was done through an accessible webpage and it did ask for the serial number, which on my system is available through the “About FineReader” pane. HTH, Bryan On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: Thanks for the good info. Just one more question: Where is the help option? Also, the program asks if I want to register it? If I say yes, is there a way to find the serial number which I bet they ask for, without sighted assistance? On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:37 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hello Juaanita, I’m not aware of any specific tutorials, but the “FineReader Help” item in the App’s Help menu gives a pretty good overview of the various options and steps involved in scanning or importing and converting documents. Are there specific steps you are having trouble with? Also, you mentioned wishing there was a Mac version of K1000. Have you tried Kurzweil K3000? There is a Mac version of K3000 and, while it is designed for folks with low-vision, dyslexia and other print disabilities not related to total blindness, I’ve found that much of the K3000 application can be accessed with keyboard shortcuts and menu options. It will import PDF files and OCR them if necessary, import from a scanner using TWAIN drivers, and read out loud from within the app instead of needing to open the resulting scan in a different app for reading. Of course, like it’s K1000 sibling, it is not inexpensive and is priced significantly higher than either ABBYY FineReader Pro or Docuscan Plus. A trial version can be downloaded from the following Kurzweil URL: http://www.kurzweiledu.com/products/k3000-standalone.html HTH, Bryan On Jul 1, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: Could someone point me to a good tutorial on how to set up Aby Fine Reader and how to convert the text to something I can listen to? I wish there was a Mac versionof K1000. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically
Re: Step by step or tutorial on Abby Fine Reader
Hello Juaanita, I’m not aware of any specific tutorials, but the “FineReader Help” item in the App’s Help menu gives a pretty good overview of the various options and steps involved in scanning or importing and converting documents. Are there specific steps you are having trouble with? Also, you mentioned wishing there was a Mac version of K1000. Have you tried Kurzweil K3000? There is a Mac version of K3000 and, while it is designed for folks with low-vision, dyslexia and other print disabilities not related to total blindness, I’ve found that much of the K3000 application can be accessed with keyboard shortcuts and menu options. It will import PDF files and OCR them if necessary, import from a scanner using TWAIN drivers, and read out loud from within the app instead of needing to open the resulting scan in a different app for reading. Of course, like it’s K1000 sibling, it is not inexpensive and is priced significantly higher than either ABBYY FineReader Pro or Docuscan Plus. A trial version can be downloaded from the following Kurzweil URL: http://www.kurzweiledu.com/products/k3000-standalone.html HTH, Bryan On Jul 1, 2014, at 12:44 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: Could someone point me to a good tutorial on how to set up Aby Fine Reader and how to convert the text to something I can listen to? I wish there was a Mac version of K1000. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: More On Our Plans
Here’s a link to Lynn’s original message. For future reference, all Mac-Access emails are available from two message archives, both of which can be reached from links provided at the bottom of each Mac-Access List email. http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2014-June/042492.html HTH, Bryan On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:45 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote: I would also like to move to the new list location and misplaced the original message. Please post again if possible. Thanks, Don - Original Message - From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:41 pm Subject: Re: More On Our Plans Hi! Lynn Can you please send me your original email about changing the email list or the email address so I can let you know that I want to move to the new list. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 25 Jun 2014, at 8:04 am, Gordon, Lynne Tracy supp...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody The responses are still flooding in with requests to remain subscribed. That is just excellent, many thanks to all of you who have written to us. This post is just to let you know what will happen when Gordon creates the new group. As you're subscribed to it, you will be sent an Email just as you were when you joined the group. Despite this, please don't start posting to the new address until we tell you that it's operational. Further, there will be a short outage of service. This is inevitable as Gordon changes the DNS settings for the domains over to the new servers. Usually, your provider will pick up the change quite quickly; but it isn't unknown for it to take between 12 and 24 hours for it to happen with some of the most rigid providers whose DNS systems only poll one of the 13 global NS systems once or twice a day. In the norm, however, it only takes a matter of minutes. Also, it is possible that, if you have used the group at one address in the same session as it changes to a new one, you may get an outage until you reboot. This is because most systems retain temporary caches of name servers and IP addresses so that they don't have to keep continually polling the provider's servers. This happens behind the scenes and, unless you know how to disable or modify this behaviour in your operating system's IP stack rules, there isn't much that you can do about it other than rebooting. Anyway, please don't panic if you see new subscription messages but mail bounces or other odd things happen. Things will settle themselves down eventually and I will make a point of writing to each and every one of you to tell you when the change-over is complete. Please know that we do care about our members and we will make this transition as seamless as possible for everybody. Warmest regards Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post,
Re: accessing PDF forms on the mac using VO.
Hello Stuart, I would strongly urge you to download and try the latest version of PDFpen from the www.smilesoftware.com website. The trial version has a few limitations but nothing that will prevent testing a PDF file to see if you can access the form fields. I’ve been testing the latest version, 6.3, and have found that I can navigate through, interact with, and fill form fields in PDF files using standard tab and VO navigation techniques. Note that I have been testing with PDF files that I know were created using the PDF accessibility guidelines, and YMMV if you are attempting to work with non-compliant PDF files. Also note that I’ve only been focussing on testing the specific VO improvements mentioned by the Developer in the current release notes, including labeling of buttons and access to form fields. I don’t think PDFpen yet provides full access to headings, tables, etc. In my opinion version 6.3 of the PDFpen application provides a glimmer of hope that true access to accessible PDF files may someday become a reality on the Mac. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Stuart Young stuartyo...@samobile.net wrote: what would be the best software to use when trying to input some information in to a PDF form? i have seen a foram chat on the applevis.com website which sujested using the PDF pen software. any idears whow I would go about compleeting this task?. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: PDf's
Hello Adi, Access to PDF files is an important part of my day-to-day life and I’ve tested a dozen or more PDF reading Mac apps over the past few years but have found no single app that provides anything resembling true access to properly tagged PDF files on the Mac. I assumed all PDF files must just be inherently inaccessible because my only point of reference was the limited access provided by the PDF tools available to Mac VO Users. It was only recently that I discovered how wonderfully accessible a properly created PDF file can be when read on Windows. While Preview and Skim provide basic access to PDF files on the Mac, AFAIK there is no tool on the Mac that even comes close to properly handling accessible PDF files in the way that the free Adobe Reader does on Windows. Speaking of Adobe Reader, the Mac version is essentially useless in terms of VO access. On a hopeful note, the latest version of the paid PDFpen application shows promise as the Developer specifically focussed on VO usage including making form fields accessible. I don’t think PDFpen yet provides accessible navigation by headings, etc, but it might be worth testing if PDF files are important to you. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a very good job with pdf's. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Abby Fine Reader
Hello Ian, I’m not sure what hardware ABBYY recommends, but I've been using a Canon PIXMA MX922 MFP and have had no issues using it in conjunction with ABBYY FineReader Pro. I connect my Mac and other computing devices via Wi-Fi and am able to scan from the flatbed and the ADF. The ADF’s duplex function also works fine. On the downside, this model Canon does not provide a very accessible hardware interface and will likely require sighted assistance during initial setup. HTH, Bryan On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: I understand this programme is well regarded in our community. Their web site is, however, hard to use to get info from. I am looking at hardware to go with this software. Can I ask for feedback on which makes of scanner or mfp people use and find compatible with abby and a mac using mountain lion? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iTunes source listing.
Hi Jim Arthur - I’m running 11.2.2, which I think is the latest version, and have not noticed any issues showing or hiding, interacting with, navigating through and hearing items in the sidebar. Cheers, Bryan On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote: Yes Jim, they broke it again. On Jun 22, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Has anyone noticed that, in the latest version of iTunes, it is sometimes hard to display the sidebar and that, when the sidebar is displayed, one cannot hear the listing sellection when cursoring up and down the list? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac
Hello Eleanor, Would you mind sharing the steps you follow to successfully tag a friend in the body of a post using the m.facebook.com site? I’ve had no luck making this happen. While the popup list of Friends does present itself, I’ve found no way to reliably select and insert a name from that list. Attempting to arrow through the list just produces the standard keyboard dead-end tone, pointing and clicking the mouse has no effect, and the item chooser does not seem to see the items in this popup list. Thank you, Bryan On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: I think tagging can be done in m.facebook.com or at least when I went through it yesterday it could be done. - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:49 AM Subject: Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac Hello Laurel Sarah, On my Macs I’m currently able to tag FB Friends from a popup list using the following steps: 1. This assumes the latest versions of MacOS and Safari are installed, QuickNav is turned off, and that javascript is enabled in Safari (Safari / Preferences / Security / Enable Javascript). 2. Go to the main Facebook site www.facebook.com. Note that this will not work on the mobile Facebook site, m.facebook.com. 3. On the main Facebook page, navigate to and activate the button labeled “Update Status.” VO now announces “What’s on your mind” and I can start typing my status update here. 4. When I want to tag someone in the body of the status, I type the “@“ symbol followed by the first few letters of their name, as you mentioned, and then I can use one of the following three methods to select and insert the desired name into the status. Note that all of these methods require Javascript to be enabled in Safari. Method 1: Press the down arrow key with no modifier keys and VO automatically moves into the list of matching names and I can highlight the friend I want to tag and then press VO+Spacebar to insert the name into the status and resume typing. Method 2: if your Mac has a mouse or trackpad and if you are comfortable using it and if you have your VO Verbosity set to speak text under mouse after delay of zero seconds” you might be able to press VO+Command+F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and then move the mouse pointer down through the popup list of names and click once to insert the name. Method 3: Open the Item Chooser menu (VO+I) and type the first few letters you typed in step 4 above. This narrows my item chooser down to the list of names in the popup list and I can then navigate and select the desired name using normal Item Chooser / VO commands. BTW, On my Macs I normally use the FB mobile site, m.facebook.com, but I’m not able to tag friends using the mobile site, which is why I wrote my instructions using the standard FB site. Also, I’ve not yet tried removing the last names from a tag, so I can’t speak to whether or not that works in Safari on the Mac. Lastly, while the folks at FB are undeniably making great strides in terms of site accessibility, I have a sense that they are still prone to making random, unannounced back-end changes that alter the layout and behavior of the site. Thus, YMMV. HTH, and please let us know if this works for you, Bryan On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Now, for the bad news. The process should be the same for the mac, hit the @ sign and then begin typing a name, and a drop down menu should appear and you should be able to select the person, hit backspace if you wanna get rid of the last name, etc. The part that we VO users can't get around is that once you start typing, no drop down menus seem to appear. I don't think Voiceover is recognizing the menu, assuming it's there. I'm not sure if it's fixable or not, but maybe somebody more knowledgable than I can take this info and do something with it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your
Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac
Hello Laurel Sarah, On my Macs I’m currently able to tag FB Friends from a popup list using the following steps: 1. This assumes the latest versions of MacOS and Safari are installed, QuickNav is turned off, and that javascript is enabled in Safari (Safari / Preferences / Security / Enable Javascript). 2. Go to the main Facebook site www.facebook.com. Note that this will not work on the mobile Facebook site, m.facebook.com. 3. On the main Facebook page, navigate to and activate the button labeled “Update Status.” VO now announces “What’s on your mind” and I can start typing my status update here. 4. When I want to tag someone in the body of the status, I type the “@“ symbol followed by the first few letters of their name, as you mentioned, and then I can use one of the following three methods to select and insert the desired name into the status. Note that all of these methods require Javascript to be enabled in Safari. Method 1: Press the down arrow key with no modifier keys and VO automatically moves into the list of matching names and I can highlight the friend I want to tag and then press VO+Spacebar to insert the name into the status and resume typing. Method 2: if your Mac has a mouse or trackpad and if you are comfortable using it and if you have your VO Verbosity set to speak text under mouse after delay of zero seconds” you might be able to press VO+Command+F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and then move the mouse pointer down through the popup list of names and click once to insert the name. Method 3: Open the Item Chooser menu (VO+I) and type the first few letters you typed in step 4 above. This narrows my item chooser down to the list of names in the popup list and I can then navigate and select the desired name using normal Item Chooser / VO commands. BTW, On my Macs I normally use the FB mobile site, m.facebook.com, but I’m not able to tag friends using the mobile site, which is why I wrote my instructions using the standard FB site. Also, I’ve not yet tried removing the last names from a tag, so I can’t speak to whether or not that works in Safari on the Mac. Lastly, while the folks at FB are undeniably making great strides in terms of site accessibility, I have a sense that they are still prone to making random, unannounced back-end changes that alter the layout and behavior of the site. Thus, YMMV. HTH, and please let us know if this works for you, Bryan On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Now, for the bad news. The process should be the same for the mac, hit the @ sign and then begin typing a name, and a drop down menu should appear and you should be able to select the person, hit backspace if you wanna get rid of the last name, etc. The part that we VO users can't get around is that once you start typing, no drop down menus seem to appear. I don't think Voiceover is recognizing the menu, assuming it's there. I'm not sure if it's fixable or not, but maybe somebody more knowledgable than I can take this info and do something with it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Reverse Colours On Mac
Yes, there is a keyboard shorcut available for this function. If I remember correctly, the shorcut key was available by default in versions of OSX through Snow Leopard, but it has been disabled by default since then. Here are the steps to re-enable it. 1. Go to System Preferences Keyboard Shortcuts. 2. Interact with the Shorcuts Category Table. 3. Arrow down to “Accessibility.” 4. Press VO+J to jump to the Accessibility Shorcuts table. 5. Arrow down to “Invert Colors.” 6. Make sure the checkbox for this row is checked. It is unchecked by default in recent OSX versions. 7. You also might want to change the default shortcut key assigned to this function. If I recall correctly, the default shortcut key combination did not work if VoiceOver was in use. I changed the default shortcut key combo on my system to Command+Option+Shift+8, which works fine throughout my system and does not seem to interfere with other shortcut keys. HTH, Bryan On Jun 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am wondering if I can have a hot key, or an Apple script for the above, to reverse colours as a toggle like I have on my iPad Mini and iPhone. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Andy, On my 2013 MBA running OS 10.9, neither Safari 7.0.4 nor Chrome 35 went into a busy state when navigating through those pages or the specific item you mentioned; however, I did encounter a number of other smaller issues during the process, including unlabeled popup buttons and fields that were completely skipped during normal VO+Right Arrow and/or Tab navigation. I won’t even bother to embarrass myself with a guess as to why these issues exist; However, I did get some better results when I turned off Javascript in Safari Preferences / Security, and then restarted Safari before working my way through the Hadley enrollment application again. I know this might not address the specific issue you are encountering, but perhaps toggling javascript on or off in your browser might help with your issue. Once Javascript was turned off, I was able to use a combination of VO+Arrows, Tab, and the Web Rotor to identify all of the elements that were previously not being spoken. For reference, here are a couple of specific issues I encountered while Javascript was enabled: 1. Using VO+Right Arrow to move through items, VO skips over the Braille questions, hopping from “Select your highest level of education” to a link labeled “Enroll.” 2. When I attempt to navigate this same sequence using the Tab key, I do find the Braille questions, but still, the first Braille question is simply announced as “popup button” with no label or descriptive text attached. 3. When I uncheck “Skip redundant labels” in the VO Utility, I had an easier albeit terribly verbose experience finding associated field and popup labels. HTH, Bryan On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: I go to www.hadley.edu And click on the Adult continuing Education link [ace] and then on the enrol link. Their are four pages of enrolment; the first that works ok for me, asks for things such as gender, date of birth, address etc, not many fields to fill in. I then click the next button, and the second of four pages loads, again, not many fields to fill in. This second page asks about things such as if English is your first language, and what is your highest level of education etc. It also asks Do you read uncontracted Braille and as soon as VO reads this question, Safari locks up in 'busy' mode, and unlike in other applications, doesn't come out of it. I'm not having this kind of issue on other websites, but every time on the Hadley website. It'd be great if you have the time to test it for me; you shouldn't have any trouble with the few fields required on the first page, but the issue if it shows up for you, will be on that second page of required information. Thanks - Andy On 2 Jun 2014, at 22:49, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot
Re: Firefox on the Mac
Hi Andy — Can you provide a URL and detailed description for the page and/or fields on which you are getting stuck? Using Safari on my Mac I was able to successfully register online with Hadley late last year, but I haven’t enrolled in any additional courses since that time. With regard to Firefox, the latest version is still not serviceable using VO in my opinion. Bryan -Original Message- Subject: Firefox on the Mac I was trying to fill out the enrolment form for a Spanish course at the Hadley school, but every time I land on a particular field to tick, Safari, and Google Chrome would freeze, and VO would just say Safari busy. Neither browser would change from that to ready. I've contacted their IT department who tell me that Safari struggles with some elements on their website, and to try Firefox. Well, I did install it to give it a go, but firstly was a bit confused by how to interact with it, and secondly, it too kept producing the 'busy' notification, regardless of what I was trying to do. Am I missing a trick with Firefox, or isn't it so good running under OSX - --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
RE: The QuickBooks program
Hello Laurel, Sorry for the delayed response . This question recently came up on AppleVis, where a person was not able to run QuickBooks 2012 for Mac while VO was running. I tried running the 30 day trial of QuickBooks 2014 on my 2013 Macbook Air running OS 10.9.2, but this latest version of Quickbooks also does not appear to work at all while VO is turned on, at least not on my system. The initial screen is a license agreement with the expected “Accept,” Decline,” etc buttons, but that screen causes VO to start announcing “Busy, Busy, Busy. Bringing up the Force Quit window shows the app is not responding. When I quit the app, turn off VO, re-launch the app and click past the license agreement, the app again goes into a “not responding “ state as soon as I toggle VO back on. The hopeful news is that Intuit has finally started to address some of their longstanding accessibility issues. The initial focus has been on the Windows version of QuickBooks, but it sounds like they have plans to address their other products as well. I know at least one person -- an advocate from the website myblindspot.org -- has been working with Intuit on this process. That website has a contact form and it might be a good starting point for requesting access to QuickBooks for Mac. HTH, Bryan Laurel and Stockard Thu, 01 May 2014 11:42:12 -0700 My dad and I are starting a business, we're looking at the Quickbook program for record keeping, transaction record keeping and credit card processing in combination with Intuit. Is there anybody who has had experience with Quickbook and can speak to its accessibility? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks. Bryan On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the processes are not calculated by the processor. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone}
Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu. HTH, Bryan On May 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: how do I activate the Mac screen curtain --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Screen curtain on iPhone
Yes, I’ve heard this anecdote from a number of different folks over the years. Unfortunately, AFAIK none of these folks have produced any hard evidence to show that turning the screen curtain on actually increases battery life. I’d love to see a controlled and replicable study to either prove or disprove the assertions of those of us including Apple who believe there’s no difference in battery life with or without screen curtain. Bryan On May 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: I exclusively use the screen curtain, and the battery life on my phone exceeds expectation. I use the iPhone 5 with the latest update, and apps update automatically, and my bluetooth and WIFI are always on. Glenn - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Screen curtain on iPhone Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks. Bryan On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the processes are not calculated by the processor. Glenn --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain oniPhone}
Good point. Somehow I keep forgetting about the trackpad sitting right there
under my thumbs. :)
Bryan
On May 10, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
Another way is to turn on trackpad commander, then 3 finger tripple tap on
the trackpad.
Chris.
- Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com
To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: How to activate the MacOS screen curtain {Was: Re: Screen curtain
oniPhone}
Press VO+HH to get to the VoiceOver Commands help menu, then type screen
curtain to narrow the results. At this point VO should announce the shortcut
key VO+Shift+F11 and, if you’d like, you can press Return to toggle the
screen curtain or press escape to exit the VO Commands Help menu.
HTH,
Bryan
On May 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
how do I activate the Mac screen curtain
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Re: Not able to disable the preview pane on a new iMac
I just wanted to second Anne’s findings with regard to hiding the preview pane under mavericks. I use classic view exclusivley, but sometimes will switch between showing and hiding the preview pane. Whenever I’ve tried using VO commands to interact and drag down the horizontal splitter, it only seems to get to somewhere around 88 percent closed and then Mail goes into the dreaded busy/ready/busy state. As Anne suggested, I now interact with the splitter, bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor, and physically click, hold, and drag down to hide the preview pane. Cheers, Bryan On May 4, 2014, at 3:57 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: In Mavericks, double-clicking on the splitter no longer works. You have to hold down the physical mouse and drag the splitter to the bottom if it’s a horizontal splitter, or to the far right if it’s a vertical splitter. If you’re in Classic view, it will be the horizontal splitter which has to be dragged to the bottom. I tried interacting with the splitter to move it to the bottom, but it would get stuck part way down and Mail would become busy and no longer respond, so the only solution seems to be to drag it with the mouse or trackpad. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: name of cannon scanner for maverick
Hello Mark, Not sure if it’s my scanner you’re thinking of, but I am using a Canon PIXMA MX922 MFP. The hardware is not particularly blind-friendly, but the flatbed, ADF duplex scanner functions have worked very well over WiFi with ABBYY FineReader Pro under Mavericks. HTH, Bryan On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote: I can not find the model name, number some onewrote, which they use with abbey or fine reader. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ios 7.1: convert vs. convela
Hello Diane - Did you see the list of responses to your original posting of this request? A number of us confirmed your findings when using the HQ US English voice under IOS 7.1. On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: I need to know if this is happening to others. When reading the word convert with vO on a device running ios 7.1, the word convert is pronounced convela I have had 2 others check this out, and they get the same result. I know this is crazy, and have know idea why this is happening, or how a vO pronunciation could have changed. It was speaking it correctly in ios 7.0.6. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: searching for groups on Facebook, voiceover on the mac
Hello Laurel, I’ll attempt to answer your 2 questions in reverse. Regarding the list archives, there should be a few links at the bottom of each email you receive from the Mac-Access list. Two of those links point to the archives. I’ve pasted the text including those links below my signature in case you are not finding them at the bottom of your standard list emails. Regarding searching FB using VO Safari on the Mac, try the following: 1. Go to the basic version of the FB search page at m.facebook.com/search 2. Navigate to the text field labeled “Search.” In my web rotor, this is the only text field listed on this page. 3. Type in the term you want to search for and then press Return. 4. Press VO+Right Arrow a few times. VO hopefully announces buttons for People, Pages, Events and Groups. 5. Press VO+Spacebar on the button labeled “Groups.” This should narrow the list of search results to Groups. 6. Press VO+Right Arrow to navigate through the list of search results, and press VO+Spacebar on a result to go to that group’s FB page. HTH, Bryan You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Laurel and Stockard laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble searching facebook, specifically searching for groups to join, using Voiceover in Safari on the mac. Does anybody have any tips for how to use this function? Also, where can the archives for this list be found and searched? I believe there are a few other pieces of information I could use to better configure Facebook with Safari, but I'm pretty sure those questions have been asked here before so rather than ask again, I wanna search the archives to find what I'm looking for. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela
Hello Diane, Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as conv a lot.” Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian English British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears. Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com. Cheers, Bryan On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: Please type in the word convert in search on an IIOS 7.1 device, and have VO read it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS7.1: convert v. convela
Hello Sarah, Yes, I interpreted the OP the same as you did, which is why I suggest emailing Apple Accessibility rather than leaving it unresolved and unreplicated with their phone support staff. Cheers, Bryan On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I think the original poster called apple accessibility and the guy could get the voice to say the word convert correctly. Let me know if I misunderstood the original post. On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hello Diane, Thank you for posting this. I’ve noticed it when using the US English HQ voice on my iPhone 5S and iPad Mini since upgrading both to IOS 7.1. I slowed the speech rate down to 5 percent and still hear it pronounced as conv a lot.” Note that pronunciation of the word seems fine when using the Australian English British English HQ voices, at least to my non-native ears. Seems like an issue worth reporting to accessibil...@apple.com. Cheers, Bryan On Mar 30, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: Please type in the word convert in search on an IIOS 7.1 device, and have VO read it. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Chrome Vox and bookmarks
Hello Juaanita, To the best of my knowledge, ChromeVox is currently designed to read and navigate just the content of web pages. It does not navigate items outside of the window containing the web content. So, for example, It is not currently possible to use ChromeVox to navigate to and/or hear the Chrome menu bar, address bar, bookmarks bar, etc while using Chrome on the Mac. I’d recommend using VO in conjunction with ChromeVox, as another lister suggested. Be aware that this scenario has a history of sometimes breaking on some web pages or when one of the components (ChromeVox, Chrome, or OSX) are updated. If I am using ChromeVox to navigate a website, I will normally toggle VO off until I need it to perform some command outside of the current web page. If you do want to use ChromeVox to access your Chrome bookmarks, you can do so by using the standard Command+L hotkey to go to the address field, then typeing chrome://bookmarks, then pressing Return. This will open an HTML version of your bookmarks within a Chrome window. Note that as with many things Google, you might need to be logged into your google account for this to work. Also, navigating, managing and activating bookmarks using ChromeVox within this interface takes some getting used to. For example, you might need to adjust the level of navigation granularity and experiment with the Enter, Spacebar, and CVox+Spacebar or multiple presses of same in order to achieve the desired action on a particular element. Also, as Sarah mentioned, one of the best places to get help with ChromeVox questions is the google group named axs-chrome-discuss” HTH, Bryan On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: How do you get to the bookmarks from within it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Google Chrome on the Mac
I would second Sarah’s suggestion of installing the ChromeVox extension. If you visit www.chromevox.com you will find a link to install the extension, a guide to the chromevox keyboard shortcuts, and a nice interactive tutorial to help you get up and running quickly with ChromeVox. HTH, Bryan On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: I just installed Google Chrome on the MacBook Air. Are there any tips and tricks I should know about using it? Any settings that would make it more accessible? I’ve already made it the default browser. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Item Chooser turning VO off
While I don’t think I’ve personally encountered this with the Item Chooser, I have experienced it when using the Web Rotor, particularly when listing Static Text elements. Of course I’m now unable to locate one of those problem pages to post here for possible confirmation. :) Bryan On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: When I am in Safari, not all but some times, if I want to use the item chooser, I will press vo+i and after a short time of busy, the Mac will say, welcome to Mac OS 10; Voiceover is running. There is no item chooser list. I'm not sure if it makes a difference how many items are on a page, but I think the more items, the more likely it is to happen. Does anyone know why this is happening? It makes dealing with some very important sites on the web very difficult. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Chrome Web Store - ChromeVox
Maybe try the following steps. These assume the current stable build of Chrome running under MacOS 10.9.2. Also, since you will be using VO during the process of initially installing ChromeVox, keep in mind that VO does not always work the same in Chrome as it does in Safari or straight webkit. Sometimes if I’m not able to locate an element in chrome using the VO web rotor I might still be able to find it using the item chooser or by simply taking the long way ‘round and VO+Arrowing or even tabbing through the page. 1. Launch Chrome. 2. Go to www.chromevox.com. On that page, navigate to the link labeled “”Install ChromeVox” and activate the link by pressing VO+Spacebar. This will hopefully take you to the appropriate Chrome webstore page for ChromeVox. 3. Now navigate to the button unhelpfully labeled “Free” and activate it by pressing VO+Spacebar. Chrome might popup a window listing the potential privacy and other issues. If you are comfortable with these, navigate to the button labeled “Add” and activate it by pressing VO+Spacebar. At this point the ChromeVox extension should install itself and start speaking. You can toggle the active/inactive state of ChromeVox by pressing Command+Control+AA Some ChromeVox settings are adjusted by going to chrome://extensions, then navigating to the ChromeVox extension and then activating the options link. My suggestion after successfully installing ChromeVox is to go back to www.chromevox.com, read the information on that page and walk through the interactive tutorial. HTH, Bryan On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:11 PM, JAKE JOEHL jajo...@att.net wrote: Hi everyone. I’m trying to install Chromevox but I think I’m a bit lost. The Chromevox website at http://www.chromevox.com says to activate the “Add to Chrome” button, but I’m not finding that. Where might I be going astray here? Here is where I went to try and get Chromevox. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext
Hello Eleanor, Yes, I think this might be a feature request worth posting to the Apple Accessibility Team. They can be reached via email at accessibil...@apple.com HTH, Bryan On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote: for Zoom. However, one thing I do notice is that as I use reverse colours, black background and white text, the mouse is white too, however, unless I have the window maxamised, then the white mouse can get lost in the area of the screen below a window that is not maxamised. This however is something that Apple could alter I am sure if in accessability they provided different colour mouse pointers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Zoom on the Mac verses Zoomtext
Yes, there are hotkeys for zoomtext mac. Google is your friend. A quick search for keywords “zoomtext mac hotkeys” returned a long list of results, the first of which is a youtube video with a well done audio track describing zoomtext mac hotkeys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfGub8jhXmg HTH, Bryan On Mar 17, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Brian, I wonder if there are any keyboard commands to control Zoomtext, e.g. increasing and decreasing the magnification and exiting Zoomtext. I did resolve the mouse issue by increasing the speed. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Magnification with Mac
Hello Eleanor and Richie, Eleanor — I worked with a low-vision student who tried Zoomtext for Mac. The student did say they liked Zoomtext’s larger mouse pointer options and that Zoomtext did a better job of keeping the cursor in focus, but this student decided the extra features provided beyond what comes built into OSX’s Zoom functions were not worth the price. YMMV of course, and I’m interested to hear your opinion after you’ve tried the demo. Richie — There is a version of Zoomtext Magnifier for the Mac. Info at this link: http://www.aisquared.com/zoomtextmac HTH, Bryan On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:14 AM, richie Gardenhire richie.gardenh...@gmail.com wrote: Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader. On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote: Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac? I am interested in obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find out first how people find it. Perhaps there is another screen magnifier other than the in-built one that people are using. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Magnification with Mac
Hello Eleanor, On my Mac running OS 10.9.2 I am able to activate the Zoom hotkeys by going to System Preferences / Accessibility / Zoom. That same preference pane lists the available hotkeys for toggling Zoom and for zooming in and out. Are these hotkeys not working on your system? Bryan On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Brian, I wish to try both forms of magnification but I have asked on a few lists about a hot key to put on magnification but nobody has responded. I am fairly sure that a key combination on the fly using one of the function keys brings it up and increases it, once I try this out I will then move to the Zoomtext but as you say a hefty price at £375 sterling. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: OCR Apps
Hello Alberto, I’ve had good success with both the older ABBYY FineReader Express and the recently released ABBYY FineReader Pro (FRP). I find most buttons and other controls to be properly accessible with VO. I also find the workflow to be fairly intuitive. I am running the latest version of FRP on a 2013 MBA with scans coming over Wi-Fi from a Canon PIXMA MX922. In the last few months FRP has successfully scanned and converted a few thousand pages of snail mail, bills, books, and even the (sadly inaccurate) fortune from a fortune cookie. I have no problems scanning from either the Canon’s flatbed or it’s sheet-feeder, and even the sheet-feeder’s duplex function has worked seamlessly. Converting digital files is also a straightforward process. While I haven’t actually timed it, my impression is the OCR process is quicker in FRP than it was in FR Express. FRP runs the OCR process locally and is one of the few applications that will actually cause my MBA’s fan to kick into high gear. If I know I’m going to be performing a big OCR process, such as converting a 500 page PDF file or scanning and converting a stack of bills, I will normally start the process and leave the computer alone for a while while it’s doing the OCR magic. Having said all that, I would of course strongly recommend getting hold of a demo and testing to make sure it works with your Mac and scanner. YMMV, HTH, Bryan On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:43 PM, alberto alberto.a...@gmail.com wrote: I have some extra money this time around, and I am considering getting myself an OCR app for my mac. I would like to know which is the best one to get that will work great with Voice Over? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Little Snitch for Mac
Hello Lynne, In February 2011 I contacted Objective Development, the Developers of Little Snitch, to ask about VO compatibility. I’ve pasted their response below. I have not tried Little Snitch in a couple of years; thus, I cannot say whether these same instructions will work for the current version of Little Snitch running under the latest versions of MacOS. HTH, Bryan Begin response from Objective Development Customer Support: Little Snitch can be used with VoiceOver. Unfortunately VoiceOver can present a security risk, because it makes one app controllable by another app. That is why controlling Little Snitch via VoiceOver is disabled by default. You would need to ask a seeing person to enable the preferences setting Allow GUI Scripting access to Little Snitch in the Security tab of the preferences in the Little Snitch Configuration application. You might then want to disable this option: In the preferences tab Monitor, the setting Show automatically on network activity - otherwise the Network Monitor will be much too chatty :) End response from Objective Development. On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: If anybody knows of a way to configure this with VoiceOver, please share the info. I’d love to be wrong on this occasion. But our testing has shown no accessibility whatsoever with the exception of the installer and uninstaller utilities. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Little Snitch for Mac
The Developer has a legitimate concern. VO is a utility with fingers deep into parts of the MacOS and thus must be considered a potential threat vector. I’ve often wondered if Apple’s conservative approach to the development of VO is due at least in part to security concerns. -Bryan On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: VoiceOver a security risk? That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How to make screenshots ona a Mac as a blind person?
Hello Christian, Another option you might want to explore is the “VO Cursor screenshot.” In OS 10.9 it is possible to create a screenshot of whatever currently resides within the VO Cursor. Here are two ways I know of to achieve this: 1. Press VO+HH to open the VO Commands Help menu, then select the Visuals menu, then select the item labeled Save Contents of VoiceOver Cursor to Desktop as Image File.” VO should announce something like, “screenshot saved,” and a new file should appear on your desktop with the name “VoiceOverCursorScreenshot-X.png. Note that you can use the Commanders section of the VO Utility to create a quicker way to activate this command. 2. Use the pre-existing applescript named, “”VoiceOver screenshot to mail.” I believe there is already a hotkey setup for this in the Keyboard Commander settings in OS 10.9. HTH, Bryan On Mar 2, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Christian Schoepplein ch...@schoeppi.net wrote: I’d sometimes like to make screenshots on my Mac to include them in blog posts, for example if I describe how to perform some usefull things with Mac OS. I know of cmd + shift + 3 to make a screenshot that will be stored on the desktop, but are there any other usefull possibilities to create screenshots as a blind person with VoiceOver? Is it possible somehow to select the size and the part of the screen to include in the screenshot for example? For sighted people cmd + shift + 4 can be used, but that for me does not work with VoiceOver, but maybe I do something wrong… --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How to make screenshots ona a Mac as a blind person?
Hello Sarah, While I can’t speak to how well the command works under 10.6, I can say I’ve had some success using it under 10.9. The VO Cursor screenshot is, of course, limited to the various levels of focus available to the VO cursor and thus requires an awareness of the current level of interaction. When attempting to alter the area of focus on web pages, I’ve sometimes found switching between DOM Group modes to be helpful. Incidentally, I really like this command when attempting to OCR a particular button or other unlabeled element. I appreciate being able to capture just the unlabeled element and running it through ABBYY FineReader. HTH, Bryan On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: The last time I did this, was in 10.6. and it only showed a button with out the rest of the screen so although it could be helpful it is not really for some of the devs who need the rest of the screen to put what ever I'm showing in context. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Little Snitch for Mac
Hello Lynne, I agree with your thought about the Developer adding an option to the Installer to enable VO access. I used Little Snitch up until 2008 or 9 when I still had enough vision, and I considered it a fantastic little tool and a helpful layer of security. I wouldn’t mind having it active again on my systems. Perhaps I’ll take another look and contact the Dev to see about polishing up accessibility in a future release. Cheers, Bryan On Mar 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: This is why we run this group! Although at first I was reticent regarding the assertion that VoiceOver constitutes a security threat. But I can actually see where this is going because of applications such as TeamView which effectively give other applications control of the Mac, just as VoiceOver does. True, VoiceOver is not in reality a threat, I think we all would agree on that one. But the assertion seems to be in regard general access, not specifically VoiceOver access. The function of VoiceOver is to give you control of your applications via the VoiceOver application. So yes, I think that point is perfectly valid. I find this most interesting actually. But it would certainly be interesting to see if the developer would be willing to add an option to the installer to modify the options to which his response refers, maybe as part of the installer. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Safari quitting
Hello Juanita, When I encounter similar problems I often try a different web browser such as the nightly build of Webkit available here: http://nightly.webkit.org HTH, Bryan On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote: No, it kept crashing in about the same place. I did a force quit, restarted, shut down, and nothing fixed the problem. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Amazon Prim app
Hello Glenn, I’m unable to locate a specific Amazon Prime App in the US App store. Would you mind providing a link to this App? With regard to the App closing when you try to watch a video, can you list the troubleshooting steps you’ve tried so far, e.g. closing all running apps, deleting and reinstalling the offending app, cycling power on the device, etc. Also, if you are trying to watch Amazon Videos, you might want to take a look at the Amazon Instant Video App if it is available in your country’s App store. I’ll paste a US App Store link at the bottom of this email. I’ve found the current version of the Amazon Instant VIdeo App to be mostly VO accessible on my iPhone 5S running IOS 7.0.4. If you decide to give this App a try, here are some tips pasted from my Applevis entry for this App. Begin pasted text: Here is my overview of this App from login to finding content to watching a video. Note that I am an Amazon Prime member and if you are not, your experience may differ. Initial launch of the app presents a VO accessible login screen for the User's Amazon credentials. The first successful login leads to an inaccessible page of advertising but a simple one finger double-tap will make this page go away and land you on the Home screen. The Home screen consists of a few decently labeled items across the top, four properly labeled buttons along the bottom, and a large central portion of the screen which is populated by an animated list of inaccessible video titles. Annoyingly, this animated list keeps VO chattering, “Video one of four, VIdeo two of four, etc,” while the VO User attempts to navigate away from the Home screen. FOrtunately, activating any of the four buttons along the bottom of the screen or the Browse or search buttons in the top of the screen moves focus away from the animated section and gets VO back to normal. The 4 buttons along the bottom of the screen are, from left to right: Home, Watch List, Library, and Settings. The Home button returns the User to the initial Home screen described above. The Watch List button presents VO accessible thumbnails of any movies or TV shows in the User’s watch list. There are buttons along the top of the screen to toggle the results list between movies and TV shows. Double-tapping a thumnail opens the detail page for the item. Most of the information on the detail page seems VO accessible, including the buttons to play, download, resume, watch trailer, and add/remove from watch list. There are some reviews and IMDB links that seem to be rendered as images and are not VO accessible. During video playback the controls can be accessed by performing a one finger double-tap on the screen. The controls temporarily pop up along the bottom edge of the screen and can be found by swiping or moving a finger around the screen. An airplay button is included in the list of controls. The Video Library button presents a list of digital videos the User has purchased from Amazon. The Settings button has five subheadings: 1. About. This is VO accessible and provides the version number and other bits of info about the app. 2. Legal Notices. (On my system, VO incorrectly reads this item as “My Account.”) This provides a VO accessible page of legal info. 3. Provide Feedback. This presents a standard new mail item with a pre-filled framework allowing the User to provide feedback directly to Amazon. 4. Contact Support. Like the feedback button above, this opens a new mail item with the To and From fields ready and prompts the User to describe the problem they are having. 5. My Account. This lists the iDevice name and the name of the registered User and provides a logout button. The buttons along the top edge of the screen change to meet the requirements of whatever task the User is performing. In the Home screen, the top buttons are Browse and Search. Double-tapping the Browse button pulls down a list of categories arranged vertically down the center of the screen when held in portrait mode. This category list is VO accessible and double-tapping some of them will present sub-categories, and eventually a VO accessible list of video titles will show and the User can interact as described in the “Watch List” section above. Tapping the Search button presents a VO accessible search bar near the top of the screen. The list of search results is also accessible and the User can interact with the items as mentioned. :End pasted text Here’s a link to the Amazon Instant Video App in the US iTunes Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/amazon-instant-video/id545519333?mt=8 HTH, Bryan On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote: I am using an iPhone 5, and I am an Amazon Prime member, it's like NetFlix. Has anyone here tried this app? The Home screen in this app keeps refreshing, and when I go to the watch list, and I select something, like an episode of a TV series, the app --- Mac Access At Mac Access
Re: Space Bar Issue Solved, But A Puzzle
Hello Gordon, According to the following Apple KB article, ■ By default, the spacebar is used as a switch when Switch Control is enabled.” The article indicates it is possible to modify this key. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6027?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US HTH, Bryan On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello all I’ve just discovered what was causing the issue with my space bar not functioning. I’m puzzled. I switched on the “Switch Control” under the Accessibility section of System Preferences, in the hope that Text Expander would then function. By doing so, I lost the use of my space bar. Turning that function off again reinstated the functionality of my space bar. But I am puzzled as to why the space bar should stop working when this function is enabled. Anybody got any suggestions? Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; Providing Help Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus Braille Transcription services. Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 Or: +44 1642 941776 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 Or: +1 209 436 9443 Australasia: +61 38 8205930 Or: +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Weird announcement
Hello Margaret, Sounds like maybe keyboard commander is turned on and the command to Run Applescript script “Time of Day” is enabled. You can view and change this option by opening the VO Utility, navigating to the “Commanders” category, and selecting the “keyboard commander” tab. HTH, Bryan On Jan 30, 2014, at 1:24 AM, Margaret margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a mac book pro and I'm using mavericks. I opened launch pad and then I opened messenger for the first time once I did this a voice came up announcing date and time. Now where ever I'm on the mac and I press option plus t a voice announces the date and time. How can I turn off the voice? It is effecting my window side as well. I don't want to go into that here. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Podcast Epesodes listing problem.
Hi Jim — Three questions: 1. Do you mean listing podcast episodes that have not yet been downloaded to your Mac, episodes that have already been downloaded, or both? 2. Where are you wanting to see/manage your podcast episodes? FOr example, iTunes, Finder, the Downcast Mac App, Safari, etc? 3. Do you simply want to see a listing of episodes, or are you wanting to do more such as alter the sort order, add or delete episodes, etc? Bryan On Jan 26, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Is there a trick for listing podcast epesodes on a Mack? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Podcast Epesodes listing problem.
Hi Jim — I no longer use iTunes to manage and play podcasts, so I went through the process of adding a random podcast from those listed in the iTunes Store and then took the following steps to view the list of downloaded episodes for that subscription. I am running the latest releases of itunes and Mavericks, and I have the sidebar turned on in iTunes and the Show Podcasts checkbox ticked in the General section of iTunes Prefs. 1. Interact with the iTunes sidebar (aka the Sources Table) and navigate to Podcasts to select it. 2. Stop interacting with the sidebar and then press VO+RIght Arrow until VO says List, radio button four of four.” Press VO+Spacebar to select the List radio button. 3. Press VO+Right Arrow until VO says “Podcasts Table.” 4. Interact with this table. Here I am able to navigate by column and row using standard VO+Arrow keys. Pressing VO+\ on a podcast subscription expands it to show a list of downloaded episodes for that subscription. HTH, Bryan On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: I am simply wanting to list epesodes which I have downloaded via iTunes. I don't have a problem listing the podcast subscription list itself. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver and long alt text descriptions
Hello Aleeha, Welcome to the list. This is an interesting question. Are you certain these problematic long descriptions are coded as Alt text? Are you able to hear these descriptions using a different screen reader? If you browse through the various lists of elements in the web rotor (VO+u) and the list of all items as displayed in the item chooser (VO+i), do you hear them read anywhere? Are you experiencing this issue on any other websites? Are you able to provide a link to an example problem so other members of the list can try to troubleshoot? Have you tried working the site with a browser other than the stock Safari? I’ve had a number of issues where the current version of Safari will not read certain items on certain websites, the most common issue being with headings. Two popular alternative browsers are Google Chrome and Webkit. I’d recommend trying the latest nightly build of Webkit, which can be downloaded from webkit.org. HTH, Cheers, Bryan On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am a new member of the list and have a question about working with images with extremely long alt text descriptions. I am working with WebAssign, an online homework system, for my Calculus class. Currently, I have a test assignment that I am trying with a Mac running the latest OS. The question of concern is one in which the images are tied to radio buttons and are graphs with extremely long text descriptions in the alt field. VoiceOver, however, won't read them, even though image verbosity is set to all. The funny thing is that VoiceOver will read the alt text associated with other images on the site, but this text is much shorter. To give an example, the longer alt text might read a bit like this: This is a graph of two random curves. The first curve begins at (-5,7) and continues down and to the right, ending at (5,-8). The second curve begins at (-2,1) and continues up and to the right, ending at (4,6). All the short alt text says, in general, is your answer is correct. Does anyone have suggestions as to how to make VoiceOver read this content? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Spanish dictionary
Hi Chris — Have a good trip, and I hope this response isn’t too late to help. I’ve been satisfied with the paid version of the Ascendo Spanish English Dictionary +” app. I’ve pasted the link to the free version below. The differences between free and paid versions are listed in the app’s description. Most parts of this app are accessible with VO, and all content is local with the exception of the spoken versions of words and phrases, both of which require an active Internet connection. You can search the dictionary using ENglish or Spanish words, and each entry can be navigated using standard VO methods. In the phrases section each phrase is followed by two unlabeled buttons. These 2 buttons play spoken English Spanish versions of the phrase respectively. Automatic language switching does not seem to work in this app, but if you have a Spanish voice in your language rotor you can toggle it to get an approximation. Note that this is the US version. I’m not sure if it will be available to you if you live outside the US. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/free-spanish-english-dictionary/id321568349?mt=8 HTH, Bryan On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Chris Goodwin ckgoodwi...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm lucky enough to be going off to a Spanish speaking country next week and would like to know if anyone has experience with a good but VoiceOver compatible iPhone English Spanish dictionary app? I'm after a dictionary primarily, but don't mind learning about translaters too. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Calendar alerts in Mavericks
Hi Paul — I’m not particularly happy with some of the changes in Mavericks Calendar, but I’m able to modify alerts using the following steps. Note that none of my calendar events are google-based, so I’ can’t speak to possible differences in behavior that might be related to google calendar events viewed in Calendar.app. Also, while I do have several google mail accounts, I use my me.com account for email alerts in Calendar. 1. Highlight the existing event in Calendar. 2. Press Cmd+i to open the Inspector. 3. Navigate to the existing alert(s). 4. Press VO+Spacebar to activate the alert’s popup button. 5. Scroll to the bottom of the popup list and select Custom. 6. Here I am presented with the following list of choices: Message, Message with sound, email, or Open File. Selecting one of these provides additional options depending on context. 7. Make the desired changes and press OK to save them. HTH, Bryan On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Does anyone understand how to set/modify calendar alerts in Mavericks using VoiceOver? I inherited most of my calendar from Mountain Lion where I could easily set the type of alert e.g. Email, message, or none and the time of the alert. these previously set alerts all work OK on Mavericks but I cannot work out how to modify an existing alert. I can, for example, change an Email alert 10 minutes before the event to a message alert, but then cannot change that back to an Email alert. It may be relevant that my calendar is on gmail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Hi Martin, I will second Phil’s message. I’ve been experiencing this behavior since ML and it continues in the latest version of Mavericks. If you have time, please send a note detailing your experience of the issue to accessibil...@apple.com HTH, Bryan On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on applevis.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.
Yep, it’s sporadic for me. Toggling VO or sometimes performing a simple page refresh Command+R sets things right, sometimes not. My favorite weather site often fails to automatically interact on initial load but CMD+R usually resolves it. Or I just take the extra few steps to manually interact. http://braille.wunderground.com/auto/braille/NY/North_Pole.html On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: I get this issue from time to time where I load a page and VO doesn't automatically interact with the page. Toggle VO off and back on with command F5 and most of the time this will fix the automatic interact issue. Hope this works it does for me. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader Pro now available for the Mac
Hi Michael — Can you explain exactly what you are looking for when you use the term “batch scanning?” In my experience, batch scanning means different things to different people, so it might help if you could be very specific about what batch scanning means to you and exactly what your expectations are. HTH, Bryan On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: i’m thinking of getting this program but before i do, can it batch convert PDFs? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: ABBYY FineReader Pro now available for the Mac
Hi Michael, Sorry, but I’m still not clear on exactly what you mean by “batch processing and I’m very interested in figuring this one out, so I’ll list the questions that still come to mind. Some of these questions stem from my relative lack of experience with other scanning applications, particularly ones that combine the scanning, OCR and output processes into a single application. I’m mostly familiar with this as a two step process, first importing a paper document using either the MAC’s built-in scanning function found in Preview or a third party app such as VueScan and second, using Finereader Express to OCR and save the imported document in other formats. 1. What are the exact steps you have used in other OCR applications to perform this batch process? Please be as specific as possible. List the hardware you use, the exact steps you follow, the exact order these steps take, the expected behavior of the computer during the batch processing, the expected end results, etc. 2. You said it is possible to, inport lots of PDF files into finreader and it will OCR the documents into text and you can save them in other formats.” Can you provide more detail on how exactly this differs from FineReader Express, which itself has the ability to import lots of PDF files, OCR them, and save them in various other formats. 3. When you use the term “batch scanning,” are you referring to a process that handles existing digital files, paper documents, or both? 4. Are you interested in having the scanning and OCR processes overlap? In other words, in other Apps are you able to place multiple pages into your scanner and then tell the OCR application to import those pages and automatically start the OCR process while the paper documents are still being imported from the scanner? Or does the import finish first and then the OCR process automatically begin afterward? How automated should the entire process be? 5. Are you able to stack a number of different documents of varying page lengths into the sheet-scanner and have the OCR application automatically recognize the beginning and end page of each document and scan each into it’s own individual file that is automatically OCR’d? Thanks again, Bryan On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: sorry about that. on windows you can inport lots of PDF files into finreader and it will OCR the documents into text and you can save them in other formats. On 11 Dec 2013, at 9:24 am, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Hi Michael — Can you explain exactly what you are looking for when you use the term “batch scanning?” In my experience, batch scanning means different things to different people, so it might help if you could be very specific about what batch scanning means to you and exactly what your expectations are. HTH, Bryan On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: i’m thinking of getting this program but before i do, can it batch convert PDFs? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list
Re: ABBYY FineReader Pro now available for the Mac
Hi Michael, Thank you for the additional clarification. It looks like ABBYY FineReader Pro for Mac can do what you are asking. Following your outline, I was able to import 5 PDF files at once and have them all OCR’d and saved as individual TXT files in one test scenario and DOCX files in a second scenario. Here are the steps I followed to do this. 1. I placed the 5 sample PDF files in their own folder inside the Documents folder on my Mac. 2. I launched ABBYY FineReader Pro for Mac. 3. I chose File / New. This opens the “New Task” window. In this window there are a couple of unlabeled or mislabeled items, but the important sections are accessible with VO. It takes a few minutes of navigating through the elements on this screen to get them figured out, but essentially there are two working modes to choose from: A “Quick Conversion” mode and a standard mode. I’m not sure of all the differences, but the Quick conversion offers 4 output formats, while the standard mode offers 12 output formats. I tested using the MS Word output format in Quick Conversion and the TXT output format in the standard mode. 4. In both cases I was prompted to select the source file(s) using a standard OSX file selection dialog where I selected all 5 of the PDF source files at once and then selected the Export button to start the conversion process. 5. The conversion process took a couple of minutes and there was a cryptic status message displayed during this process. 6. At the end of the conversion I was presented with a dialog box telling me I would have better luck working with 600 DPI sources. I closed this message and was presented with another dialog box that included a popup with an option to Create a separate file for each source file” and then the process finished. I looked in Finder and found that a subfolder for the TXT and one for the DOCX output files had been created inside my test folder and the converted files had been placed inside those folders Each file had the same name as it’s original PDF file but with the TXT or DOCX extension instead. That’s the short version of the story, but I hope it helps. There were a number of other options I ignored during the process, and I’m sure someone here or on AppleVis will do a podcast or a more thorough write-up as time permits. Cheers, Bryan On Dec 10, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote: hey, i do not have a scanner for the computer. in finereader express you can inport more than one pdf document how ever, it will put all the OCR text into one big document. if i use finreader pro this is what i do: say i have 5 documents with the names doc one to 5.pdf. i inport the 5 files into finereader pro. finereader will ad and OCR eatch page of the documents. i then go into file menue and hit save as. finereader will then save a copy of the 5 documents i inported into the program in another format so, you have doc 1.html and so on in what ever format you like to use. that is all there is to it. i believe a user on the list ann? sorry if that spelling is wrong knows more about this stuff than i do. hope this helped a bit. Michael --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: os 10.9 xcode
Xcode is free, at least here in the US, and it can be downloaded from the Mac App Store. HTH, Bryan On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Rudolph, Douglas douglas.rudo...@usask.ca wrote: hey guys I am going to be needing to do some work with C++ code and the recommended app to do so is Xcode…. can i download this right from the app store, or how would i go about downloading it onto my mba 2012 with os x 10.9 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Any good reason not to go to ios7?
I like some of the new features in IOS7 and am happy with Apple’s continuing commitment to building out the accessibility options in IOS, but there are some functions on my ATT iPhone 4S that do not work as well under IOS7 as they did under the last version of IOS6, though things have improved dramatically between the initial release of IOS7 and the current 7.0.4 release. Here are a few of the issues I am still experiencing: - The time is not always read aloud when pressing the home or sleep/wake buttons on the lock screen. - swiping between time/date/notification/unlock/camera on the lock screen is buggy. Sometimes the swipes work, sometimes they don’t, sometimes they jump around randomly. Note that this flaky swiping behavior also occurs in some other areas of IOS, not just the lock screen. - Not all item count labels are read. For example, counts of unread mail messages as listed at the top of an open mailbox. - As with any OS update, some third party apps become broken under IOS 7 and not all have been — or will be — fixed. - Most day-to-day functions feel slower on my 4S under IOS7 than they did under IOS6. This of course is to be expected as a normal part of the standard computing device lifecycle, but it is worth noting for folks who might not be aware of that cycle. - Some folks are not happy with the low-vision functions in IOS7. I don’t use these much anymore, but I can tell you for sure the white-on-black setting was not applied consistently throughout the OS and Apple’s own Apps. HTH, Bryan On Dec 1, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Chris Goodwin ckgoodwi...@googlemail.com wrote: I have my iPhone 4S and have held back from updating to ios7 in case it isn't so accessible. Are there any good reasons not to update? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Printing Word Document Correctly.
Hi David, In the off chance Anne’s suggestion doesn’t produce the desired results, you might consider trying the sledgehammer approach AKA install MS Office for Mac. While MS Office 2011 for Mac does not provide the ability to view or edit Word documents, the menu bar and printing functions in Office 2011 Mac are VO accessible, and, interestingly, the print preview thumbnails displayed within the print dialog box are also somewhat VO accessible. For complex DOC or DOCX files, it might be a workable solution if cross-platform maintenance of formatting is critical and if printing, rather than reviewing or editing, is the goal. I’ve found I can open a Word document in Word 2011, press Command+P to open the Print dialog box, and access all available print options by using standard VO navigation keys to move through the print dialog. VO will also read the page currently displayed in the print preview thumbnail, and I can even interact with that thumbnail and navigate through it. Make sure the “Copies Pages” item is selected in the popup menu, and make sure the checkbox labeled “Show Quick Preview” is ticked. Here in the US, MS offers a trial download with a number of setup options as listed below. I’m guessing similar options are available outside of the US. A web search for mac office 2011 trial download turns up several official Microsoft sites hosting the download links. The install process is fully VO accessible. Upon first launch of any of the Office apps the User is presented with VO-accessible dialogs, one of which ass how you would like to run Office. The options go something like this: 1. Insert a license key. 2. Sign into an existing Office 365 subscription. 3. Run as fully functioning 30 day demo. 4. Run permanently as a document viewer without editing capabilities. HTH, Bryan On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:30 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: OK thanks I will try with Pages. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Anybody using a VO accessible full-featured project manager on the Mac?
Hi Folks, I’m looking for a full-featured project management application that is VO friendly. If you are using such and wouldn’t mind a few questions, please reply on or off list. I will consider a web-based option, but would prefer a native application. It does not need to be multi-user or network-savvy. Please do not reply with pointers to basic GTD apps, to-do, lists, spreadsheet templates, IOS apps or things you’ve heard about but not tried personally. Thanks in advance. Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: mavericks mail and attachments.
Hi Donal Zack — Is it a particular type of attachment you’re having trouble with? I just tested with some PDF attachments by highlighting the attachment in the body of the message, pressing VO+Shift+M, selecting Open With…. Preview. I also was able to do it via QuickLook. The PDFs opened in Preview without issue. This is on a 2011 MBA running the current public release of Mavericks with the Mail update they put out a few days ago. -Bryan On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: I can confirm this one. Opening an attachment from the Quick Look window fails with a crash. Best, Zack. On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Folks, Just want to confirm a bug before I take the trouble to wrestle with Apple’s bugreporter. As anyone found that it is not possible to open a mail attachment? When I try mail simply crashes all the time. I have to save the file before I can open it. I think this is a generalised problem as I’m experiencing it on two machines. Both machines also have an ML partition and it seems not to happen on those. Cheers, Dónal Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, School of Computing, Dublin City University, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie Email Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for use by the addressee. Any unauthorised dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as being those of Dublin City University. E-mail communications such as this cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, timely, secure or error-free and Dublin City University does not accept liability for any such matters or their consequences. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to
Re: Safari 6.1 bug?
Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based browsers Chrome Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar behavior under Mavericks. I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1 Bryan On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith snuc...@gmail.com wrote: I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Safari 6.1 bug?
An update to my note about Webkit versions: After installing today's Webkit Nightly builds, the headings issues *appear* to be resolved for me on both ML Mavericks. With this current version I am not experiencing the following headings issues, though they still exist in Safari Chrome Canary: Google search results were showing just a few items under headings; Comments in Applevis postings were displaying the comment number with no associated heading text; Amazon search results were displaying just a small part of each heading. YMMV, use at your own risk, etc. Other things might be broken in these versions. The version numbers reported are: On ML: Version 6.1 (8537.71, 538+) On Mavericks: Version 7.0 (9537.71, 538+) HTH, Bryan On Nov 3, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote: Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based browsers Chrome Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar behavior under Mavericks. I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: error i am getting.
Try bringing up the context/shortcut menu for the downloaded item and choose Open from that menu. This should give you the option to use the file. If you are comfortable making global changes to your security settings for downloaded content, try System Prefs / Security Privacy / General / Allow Apps Downloaded from…. HTH, Bryan On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi since upgrading to maverick I am getting a problem. When I try to open a file that i’ve downloaded with COG the media player of my choice I keep getting an error. It keeps saying that the file can’t be opened because it’s not from an identified developer. I never had this problem before and could just open any file that was mp3 I downloaded with the cog player. Wonder if anyone can help. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Update: Jump to top / bottom of column in Mavericks Mail message list
Hi Folks — Can anyone verify that Command+Option+up/down arrow keys are now initiating the jump to top/bottom of a message list in Mavericks Mail? I finally got around to installing the public release of Mavericks and, as others have mentioned, found I was no longer able to use the Option+up/down arrow keys to jump to the top or bottom of a column in the Mail message list. However, I am now able to instead perform this jump using the Command+Option+up/down arrow keys. This is working for me in both standard and classic mail views, and leaves focus in the same column in classic view. This keystroke does not require waiting a moment as the previous Tiger - SL versions did. The jump happens immediately. Sorry Esther, as far as I can tell it does not seem to recognize threads in any way. This is on a 2011 MBA running the latest Mavericks release with all software updates. Cheers, Bryan Begin forwarded message: From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com Subject: Re: OS X Mavricks, Wait a bit Date: October 22, 2013 at 6:11:41 PM EDT To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Call me easy to please, but I am thrilled that they’ve reinstated the ability to use the Option+Up/Down arrows to move to top and bottom message rows in Mavericks’ Mail.app --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Has anybody else noticed a recent change in the interpretation of Headings in the web rotor?
Hi Zack and Others — After upgrading to the current Mavericks release, this issue seems cleared up in most situations. . However, I’m still experiencing it in search results in Amazon. Can you try the following and let me know what your results are? 1. Go to amazon.com. 2. Search for an item, in my case I tried Macbook Air. 3. Bring up the web rotor and arrow through the list of headings. In my case, after the first few items in the list the results simply show “by Apple” as the heading. 4. However, if I navigate the results using VO+COmmand+H, I hear the full text of each of those headings, for example heading level 3 2 items link Apple MacBook Air MD760LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop (NEWEST VERSION) by Apple Thanks again, Bryan On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Nope, I haven’t seen this. Just did a Google search and could navigate headings with the rotor just fine. I note that I’m used to using VO-cmd-h and friends, so I may be missing something. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Is anyone successfully using the MacUpdate Desktop with VO under Mavericks?
Thought I’d pose this question here while waiting a response from desk...@macupdate.com. I’ve been able to download and install the latest 5.2.3 Macupdate Desktop package, but on first launch it simply goes into a non-responding state. I’ve tried launching with VO off but after I toggle VO back on there seems to be no difference. A quick web search didn’t reveal a solution. This is on a clean install of Mavericks on my 2011 MBA. Thanks for any ideas, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
