Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
I visit http://www.strobist.com most days, though there is not always new content. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
Excellent work, Subash. A very nice gallery. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Alster impressions
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Eckehard Wegner wrote: Sounds like one of those because it's there things that you have to do once if only for your peace of mind! Kind of like me buying a too cheap to miss Bungee Zone day pass on general principle once - I sure felt beaten up the next day. But then there is things a man has to do or he might as well be considered sensible. Life is boring if you don't do something stupid occasionally :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Subash wrote: do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# What a beautiful place. I need to do some more back-country expeditions. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
On Aug 26, 2009, at 15:55 , William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7? I rather like their current tack, given some of the other possibilities - like going out of business. Its all about generating capital so they can stay in business, like other successful businesses. Unfortunately, there seems to be a much larger % of Pentax users who just want cheap equipment, and who don't really care if the company remains viable enough to supply new equipment in 5-10 years. It's why there was so much bitching and moaning when lens prices got jacked up (though some real QC would be nice for what they are charging now) and why the first thing many forum/ list members say is that they'll wait until the price comes down before buying. Some of us are waiting for our account balances to come UP from other recent Pentax purchases before we grab us a K-7. All credit cards must read $0.00 first. Say, four months from now, no matter the price. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
My worry is I am not sure where Hoya is taking Pentax. I don't mind paying more for more but my impression is they are asking more for less right now. The combination of low wage country assembly, end user quality control, outsourced service, RD and marketing budget cuts, increasing times to market and last minute component changes is making me nervous. It all looks to me like footprint reduction for the sake of short term profitability to make the unit attractive for potential partners. Nonetheless, there is no alternative for me; affordable weather sealing is a killer feature in my book. Cheers Ecke 2009/8/27 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: On Aug 26, 2009, at 15:55 , William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7? I rather like their current tack, given some of the other possibilities - like going out of business. Its all about generating capital so they can stay in business, like other successful businesses. Unfortunately, there seems to be a much larger % of Pentax users who just want cheap equipment, and who don't really care if the company remains viable enough to supply new equipment in 5-10 years. It's why there was so much bitching and moaning when lens prices got jacked up (though some real QC would be nice for what they are charging now) and why the first thing many forum/ list members say is that they'll wait until the price comes down before buying. Some of us are waiting for our account balances to come UP from other recent Pentax purchases before we grab us a K-7. All credit cards must read $0.00 first. Say, four months from now, no matter the price. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
RSS feeds from: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html http://www.earthshots.org/ http://www.stuckincustoms.com/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ http://reader.google.com for effortless reading Toine 2009/8/27 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net: I do have mine but am not always happy with the effort. http://riotclitshave.livejournal.com/ an eclectic mash of shots gleaned from all over the web; when its updated not always SFW http://www.shorpy.com/ vintage and newer shots. was referred from here I think http://carlosmiller.com/ and http://www.nycphotorights.com/ Focus on Photo* rights though Carlos has been straying to all sorts of police misconduct lately. http://www.photosig.com supposed to be a critique site and I try to find a few i can comment on sensibly every day but often fail http://thepioneerwoman.com/photography/ Ree and her guests often make thinking about shooting and editing more fun than ever. Give aways on the site now and then. ok I cheated and worked in six well seven if you count http://digital-photography-school.com -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Charles, I think that if you have a good copy of K10D it would be a mistake to sell it. I for one, am going to keep my K10D for as long as it lasts. I second that. Pentax have made a terrible mess of their formerly excellent customer service, so a second body to keep you going while your main camera is away for repair much longer than what we all were used to seems like a good idea. Besides, the K10D is Pentax' last camera that's fully usable for photographing lightining, fireworks, astro or other long-time exposures without having the camera blocked half of the time while it's doing its dark frame. I've kept mine. Not lastly because there's a marked increase of used K20D on the market now and prices for the K10D are so low that it doesn't make sense to sell them. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I rather like their current tack, given some of the other possibilities - like going out of business. Its all about generating capital so they can stay in business, like other successful businesses. If they think they can improve their long-term profitability by introducing miserable service, lacking quality control, and almost doubled prices for many of their lenses, they're welcome to try. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
Or they'll have someone else do their ads next time. 2009/8/27 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: No comments are needed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
Subash wrote: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash Holy cow. That is an amazing set. Most humbled. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
I sold my K10D on ebay about a month ago. I got $400 U.S. Kept the k20D as my backup. It has less high ISO noise than the K10D in normal shooting, and with more resolution, a tighter crop is always an option. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Charles, I think that if you have a good copy of K10D it would be a mistake to sell it. I for one, am going to keep my K10D for as long as it lasts. I second that. Pentax have made a terrible mess of their formerly excellent customer service, so a second body to keep you going while your main camera is away for repair much longer than what we all were used to seems like a good idea. Besides, the K10D is Pentax' last camera that's fully usable for photographing lightining, fireworks, astro or other long-time exposures without having the camera blocked half of the time while it's doing its dark frame. I've kept mine. Not lastly because there's a marked increase of used K20D on the market now and prices for the K10D are so low that it doesn't make sense to sell them. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
Hm. The face swap had nothing to do with race. It was because the guy was leaning his head towards right. Right is sooo 2008. -- MaritimTim 2009/8/27 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: No comments are needed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:24:18AM +0200, Eckehard Wegner scripsit: My worry is I am not sure where Hoya is taking Pentax. I don't mind paying more for more but my impression is they are asking more for less right now. The combination of low wage country assembly, end user quality control, Anyone on the list got actual stats? While there have been some issues, the combination of broad innovation -- something new to the camera industry -- and new assembly staff, who don't have the depth of experience, will necessarily hammer quality control. No evidence that Pentax has been having excessively *bad* quality control issues under the circumstances, or that the trend isn't in the right direction. outsourced service, RD and marketing budget cuts, Are you sure there have been RD cuts? increasing times to market and last minute component changes is making me nervous. It all looks to me like footprint reduction for the sake of short term profitability to make the unit attractive for potential partners. Nonetheless, there is no alternative for me; affordable weather sealing is a killer feature in my book. Or it's let's not go broke. Digital means that there will be about as many camera makers left standing for niche cameras -- which is any camera that isn't in a phone -- as there were manufacturers of film in the film days. Which, in turn, means that Pentax *must* get a partner or partner to continue. It's not a we would like to; it's a we absolutely must. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
It's funny, when I had enough income to buy anything Pentax that I wanted, Pentax didn't have much that I wanted that was new, so I bought a lot of used stuff. Now that I have to be a bit more careful about my purchases , Pentax has a lot a number of new products that I'd love to have but can't exactly justify, so I have to wait for assignments that will pay for them or bargains I just can't pass up. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 15:55 , William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7? I rather like their current tack, given some of the other possibilities - like going out of business. Its all about generating capital so they can stay in business, like other successful businesses. Unfortunately, there seems to be a much larger % of Pentax users who just want cheap equipment, and who don't really care if the company remains viable enough to supply new equipment in 5-10 years. It's why there was so much bitching and moaning when lens prices got jacked up (though some real QC would be nice for what they are charging now) and why the first thing many forum/ list members say is that they'll wait until the price comes down before buying. Some of us are waiting for our account balances to come UP from other recent Pentax purchases before we grab us a K-7. All credit cards must read $0.00 first. Say, four months from now, no matter the price. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Eagle on Brian Walter's Travel Blog
Brian has updated his travel blog, and there's a lovely picture of an eagle here--as well as other photos of interest. http://www.blognow.com.au/gowest/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
The DA* 60-250 seems to have less initial problems than did the earlier DA* lenses. And Pentax took their time with it. Well worth the wait, I'd say. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Graydon wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:24:18AM +0200, Eckehard Wegner scripsit: My worry is I am not sure where Hoya is taking Pentax. I don't mind paying more for more but my impression is they are asking more for less right now. The combination of low wage country assembly, end user quality control, Anyone on the list got actual stats? While there have been some issues, the combination of broad innovation -- something new to the camera industry -- and new assembly staff, who don't have the depth of experience, will necessarily hammer quality control. No evidence that Pentax has been having excessively *bad* quality control issues under the circumstances, or that the trend isn't in the right direction. outsourced service, RD and marketing budget cuts, Are you sure there have been RD cuts? increasing times to market and last minute component changes is making me nervous. It all looks to me like footprint reduction for the sake of short term profitability to make the unit attractive for potential partners. Nonetheless, there is no alternative for me; affordable weather sealing is a killer feature in my book. Or it's let's not go broke. Digital means that there will be about as many camera makers left standing for niche cameras -- which is any camera that isn't in a phone -- as there were manufacturers of film in the film days. Which, in turn, means that Pentax *must* get a partner or partner to continue. It's not a we would like to; it's a we absolutely must. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
2009/8/27 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:24:18AM +0200, Eckehard Wegner scripsit: My worry is I am not sure where Hoya is taking Pentax. I don't mind paying more for more but my impression is they are asking more for less right now. The combination of low wage country assembly, end user quality control, Anyone on the list got actual stats? While there have been some issues, the combination of broad innovation -- something new to the camera industry -- and new assembly staff, who don't have the depth of experience, will necessarily hammer quality control. No evidence that Pentax has been having excessively *bad* quality control issues under the circumstances, or that the trend isn't in the right direction. Point taken. With these things it is never more than a gut feeling based on personal experience combined with what you read and then run throught the famous tellmewhatiwannahear filter - us humans tend to give more weight to information that confirms our assumptions than the other way round. So: no stats here. On the other hand, the rate of lens misalignments etc. reported even in tests and people everywhere - including this list - playing good copy / bad copy, both for lenses and bodies, indicates that QC is not happening to the point of actually weeding out the lesser specimens but only the grossly botched. Again, unsubstantiated gut feeling, not statement of fact. Probably not helping Pentax either here. outsourced service, RD and marketing budget cuts, Are you sure there have been RD cuts? IIRC there was a statement by a Hoya official indicating short term cuts on both budgets reported in several places on the web. Truth percentage issue... increasing times to market and last minute component changes is making me nervous. It all looks to me like footprint reduction for the sake of short term profitability to make the unit attractive for potential partners. Nonetheless, there is no alternative for me; affordable weather sealing is a killer feature in my book. Or it's let's not go broke. Digital means that there will be about as many camera makers left standing for niche cameras -- which is any camera that isn't in a phone -- as there were manufacturers of film in the film days. Which, in turn, means that Pentax *must* get a partner or partner to continue. It's not a we would like to; it's a we absolutely must. -- Graydon Sure, let's not go broke is Prime Directive. The former Repair Service Manager at Pentax Hamburg told me they were not willing to sell anything at a loss any more and that they had no intention to compete for market shares any longer by selling below cost. And then, why would they have lower cost out of lower numbers than Canikon? So prices have to go up and I say let them have what they deserve. I guess I am just looking for an excuse to justify staying. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eagle on Brian Walter's Travel Blog
Great pics and an interesting blog. Thanks for posting this. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Brian has updated his travel blog, and there's a lovely picture of an eagle here--as well as other photos of interest. http://www.blognow.com.au/gowest/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I sold my K10D on ebay about a month ago. I got $400 U.S. Kept the k20D as my backup. It has less high ISO noise than the K10D in normal shooting, and with more resolution, a tighter crop is always an option. Unfortunately, the K20D is even more crippled in long-time exposure than the K-7 with firmware 1.01. This is why I've sold my K20D and kept the K10D. BTW, I'm looking for a used *istDS. Mine is developing some sort of galloping dementia and I still want to keep one for infrared. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
Absolutely agreed. But they took over three years. Imagine they did that all the time. But the WR kit lenses were a stroke of genius in terms of lowering the entry hurdle for a weather sealed kit from by about a grand. That really gives me hope. -Ecke 2009/8/27 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: The DA* 60-250 seems to have less initial problems than did the earlier DA* lenses. And Pentax took their time with it. Well worth the wait, I'd say. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Graydon wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:24:18AM +0200, Eckehard Wegner scripsit: My worry is I am not sure where Hoya is taking Pentax. I don't mind paying more for more but my impression is they are asking more for less right now. The combination of low wage country assembly, end user quality control, Anyone on the list got actual stats? While there have been some issues, the combination of broad innovation -- something new to the camera industry -- and new assembly staff, who don't have the depth of experience, will necessarily hammer quality control. No evidence that Pentax has been having excessively *bad* quality control issues under the circumstances, or that the trend isn't in the right direction. outsourced service, RD and marketing budget cuts, Are you sure there have been RD cuts? increasing times to market and last minute component changes is making me nervous. It all looks to me like footprint reduction for the sake of short term profitability to make the unit attractive for potential partners. Nonetheless, there is no alternative for me; affordable weather sealing is a killer feature in my book. Or it's let's not go broke. Digital means that there will be about as many camera makers left standing for niche cameras -- which is any camera that isn't in a phone -- as there were manufacturers of film in the film days. Which, in turn, means that Pentax *must* get a partner or partner to continue. It's not a we would like to; it's a we absolutely must. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eagle on Brian Walter's Travel Blog
Wonderful images, and a great blog. Dan On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Christine Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Brian has updated his travel blog, and there's a lovely picture of an eagle here--as well as other photos of interest. http://www.blognow.com.au/gowest/ Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... In shooting mode, push the INFO button and you have several controls available there, including SR on/off. Not as direct as a hardware switch, but not far from it. Much better than navigating the ever-increasing menus. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
In shooting mode, push the INFO button and you have several controls available there, including SR on/off. Not as direct as a hardware switch, but not far from it. Much better than navigating the ever-increasing menus. I forgot to mention that I've disabled the status screen, in order to prevent it from drying the battery for the sake of tanning my face and dazzling my eyes. Another side advantage is that the status screen never comes in between, and pushing INFO goes straight to that useful setting palette (instead of repeating info I alkeady know by the viewfinder and top panel). Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cool cloud photo
2009/8/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: A symptom of global warming if ever I've seen one... Morning glory clouds have been a feature of the Gulf of Carpentaria for long, long before global warming was ever discussed. Wikipedia has a good page for a quick lesson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Glory_cloud and if you read the section called 'Scenario for formation' you'll understand why they're a product of the local topography and weather conditions rather than harbingers of doom. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Boris, What do you think of the camera strap. My old MX's had those triangle shape camera straps and the black paint vanished quickly due to the silly camera strap system. I don't understand why they implemented this (retro look probably). Toine 2009/8/26 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I also pan with the K20D with SR turned on. It doesn't cause any problems. The sweeping motion of a pan is far outside the range of motion that SR tries to control. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
I turn off the SR when panning (when I remember to) and I've read that others do the same. Whether it makes a difference, I've no idea.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2) To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 7:40 AM I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I also pan with the K20D with SR turned on. It doesn't cause any problems. The sweeping motion of a pan is far outside the range of motion that SR tries to control. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My K-7 WB weirdness continues
Hi! I've posted two full PEFs on my web site. The time difference between them is like 5 mins. The light was coming from the window and the sun was fairly up in the sky for 7:10am or thereabouts. Initially, the little brain locked itself at something like uncorrected tungsten lighting. Then I played with WB settings some and returned all back to where it was. It took 3-4 mins. Then it started giving me these subtle yet annoying purple/magenta skin tones. Since both shots are of my little daughter, I won't put the links on public list. Please contact me off-list if you want to have a look at these PEFs. Frankly, I am quite troubled by this kind of behavior of the camera. The intermittent problems such as this are the worst case scenario should I have to pay a visit to the local service. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Not a clue, Toine. I see what you're asking about but this is the very first time I get such a strap system. If you ask some time in the future, I might be able to tell you more though in the manual it is shown to use the little stripes of leather-like material while attaching the camera strap. This is what I've done. Looks oddly cool. Boris Toine wrote: Boris, What do you think of the camera strap. My old MX's had those triangle shape camera straps and the black paint vanished quickly due to the silly camera strap system. I don't understand why they implemented this (retro look probably). Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Not a clue, Toine. I see what you're asking about but this is the very first time I get such a strap system. If you ask some time in the future, I might be able to tell you more though in the manual it is shown to use the little stripes of leather-like material while attaching the camera strap. This is what I've done. Looks oddly cool. The only inconvenience I've noticed abut the new strap is that it tends to get a lot more often into the way if the camera is on a tripod, especially in portrait orientation, than it did with the sideways attachments of the earlier models. Other than that no probs with it. As far as the vulnerability of the powder coating on the camera body goes, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that there was something wrong with the coating on my first K-7. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:35:49 +0200 Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: RSS feeds from: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html http://www.earthshots.org/ http://www.stuckincustoms.com/ http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ http://reader.google.com for effortless reading Toine I have never gotten into rss. seems a good way to keep up with PPG while avoiding that nasty flash interface. Love the work there but it usually only takes me half an hour to get really annoyed. Most of the personal sites here are better designs. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:23:59 +1000 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# Holy cow. That is an amazing set. Most humbled. Derby, Carlos and David Mann, thanks for all your kind comments. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Question about filters
Hello PDML! Several brands, such as Hoya and Rodenstock (the ones I can easily buy in Portugal), have filters design for digital cameras and the other filters for film cameras. Is this just marketing or do these filters 'excel' when used in digital cameras? If they 'excel' with digital cameras, which is their behavior when used in film cameras, compared to as similar as possible (?!?) 'film filters'? BTW, I want to buy two circular polarizing filters. Thanks in advance! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 03:39:49PM +0200, Eckehard Wegner wrote: Absolutely agreed. But they took over three years. Imagine they did that all the time. But the WR kit lenses were a stroke of genius in terms of lowering the entry hurdle for a weather sealed kit from by about a grand. That really gives me hope. -Ecke Yep. Those, and the K-7, hark back to the best days of Pentax; an affordable system with features to equal (or exceed) systems costing a whole lot more, even after the price increases. The end-user quality control isn't just a Pentax issue - all of the competing brands (and, in fact, the whole electronics industry) use that model. And I'm not necessarily too upset by the outsourcing of the repair side of the business; I'm not sure Pentax is large enough to justify the cost of multiple repair centres. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
Bran Everseeking wrote: I do have mine but am not always happy with the effort. http://riotclitshave.livejournal.com/ I don't think even the site title would get past our filtering system. I'm certainly not going to try. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about filters
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: Is this just marketing ... It most definitely is. Rodenstock filters, BTW, are made by Heliopan in Germany using Schott glass. I've been getting top-notch results using their filters for many years. http://www.heliopan.de/Heliopan-Filters.pdf They're optically *and* mechanically excellent, e.g. they don't stick if they've been screwed on a little too tight. Hoya filters have a reputation for being a right royal nuisance with their coating which makes them almost impossible to clean. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about filters
Hi Nuno: I have two B + W circular polarizers that I use on my K10D and K20D with no problems, and I'd recommend the B + W. Cheers, Christine -Original Message- From: Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com Sent: Aug 27, 2009 11:18 AM To: Pentax Discussion Mailing List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Question about filters Hello PDML! Several brands, such as Hoya and Rodenstock (the ones I can easily buy in Portugal), have filters design for digital cameras and the other filters for film cameras. Is this just marketing or do these filters 'excel' when used in digital cameras? If they 'excel' with digital cameras, which is their behavior when used in film cameras, compared to as similar as possible (?!?) 'film filters'? BTW, I want to buy two circular polarizing filters. Thanks in advance! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
When I got my K10D I conducted a few experiments, and found that leaving SR enabled while panning was at the worst harmless, and in fact probably helped to smooth out irregularities in the pan. Since then the only time I've turned SR off is when shooting on a tripod (and then only if I remember :-) The physics of the system supports that position, too. The SR system is based on accelerometers. On a smooth hand-held pan (rotating the entire photographer+camera system round a fixed point behind the plane of the sensor, but on the lens axis) there is no acceleration in the plane of the sensor, and so SR will do nothing except smooth out the panning motion. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:40:29AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I also pan with the K20D with SR turned on. It doesn't cause any problems. The sweeping motion of a pan is far outside the range of motion that SR tries to control. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
You'd think a company that big could just take another shot. These days things like that get picked up with too high a probability to mess with them. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:01 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop Hm. The face swap had nothing to do with race. It was because the guy was leaning his head towards right. Right is sooo 2008. -- MaritimTim 2009/8/27 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: No comments are needed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:22:17 +0100 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: http://riotclitshave.livejournal.com/ I don't think even the site title would get past our filtering system. I'm certainly not going to try. people are strange even to me sometimes. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:00:08AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit: Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from it, but I haven't seen any harm from it, either. Never tried to shoot fast motorsports, but panning to follow flying ducks (~60 mph) doesn't seem to trouble the shake reduction algorithm any. On the other hand, I've had it turn off by accident and regretted that. I suspect deleting the SR switch in the K-7 is an acknowledgement that it's not something you need to turn off very often, and that those occasions where you do turn it off are also those where you're just not in a hurry; the substantial tripod and the really solid substrate don't admit of being in a hurry. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Eckehard Wegner scripsit: 2009/8/27 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: [snip] While there have been some issues, the combination of broad innovation -- something new to the camera industry -- and new assembly staff, who don't have the depth of experience, will necessarily hammer quality control. No evidence that Pentax has been having excessively *bad* quality control issues under the circumstances, or that the trend isn't in the right direction. Point taken. With these things it is never more than a gut feeling based on personal experience combined with what you read and then run throught the famous tellmewhatiwannahear filter - us humans tend to give more weight to information that confirms our assumptions than the other way round. Oh yes. (To the point that there is increasing evidence that information you know is wrong will affect your decision making...) So: no stats here. On the other hand, the rate of lens misalignments etc. reported even in tests and people everywhere - including this list - playing good copy / bad copy, both for lenses and bodies, indicates that QC is not happening to the point of actually weeding out the lesser specimens but only the grossly botched. Or, and this is what I'd be looking at if I were in charge of QC at Pentax, transport via standard container is really hard on precision mechanical assemblies. Time to ship a recording accelerometer or two and look at package redesign, I strongly suspect. Which is not to say that the factory QC might not need work; it always will. But the kinds of errors people report are the kinds of things that go with that got rattled -- stuck autofocus, SDM motor won't engage, some lens element is out of alignment, the camera turns on but one specific function is borked -- and all of those are consistent with container shipping is kinda brutal combined with Pentax uses really traditional packaging, from the days where someone was going to pick up a smallish crate by hand. [snip] Or it's let's not go broke. Digital means that there will be about as many camera makers left standing for niche cameras -- which is any camera that isn't in a phone -- as there were manufacturers of film in the film days. Which, in turn, means that Pentax *must* get a partner or partner to continue. It's not a we would like to; it's a we absolutely must. Sure, let's not go broke is Prime Directive. The former Repair Service Manager at Pentax Hamburg told me they were not willing to sell anything at a loss any more and that they had no intention to compete for market shares any longer by selling below cost. And then, why would they have lower cost out of lower numbers than Canikon? So prices have to go up and I say let them have what they deserve. I guess I am just looking for an excuse to justify staying. Pentax price/performance, even at the new prices, remains pretty good. The last five lenses -- DA 55-300, DA 35 Ltd., DA* 60-250, DA* 55, DA 15 Ltd. is how I'm counting last five -- have all been optically excellent. So the core competency seems to be doing OK in that regard. Used to be, one got taught that the birds went south in the winter to escape the cold and dearth. Turns out that the more appropriate way to think of it is that some birds fly north in the spring, so they can exploit the long days and peak summer food supply for raising offspring. I tend to think camera systems are the same way; what, out of what you need or want to do, can you not do with system foo? Out of the systems that do everything you need/want, which one is the least annoying? I don't have the necessary vast breadth of experience to say this, but so far, I'm finding Pentax to be doing really well at least annoying. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from it, but I haven't seen any harm from it, either. I've just recenty noticed a rather strange phenomenon with my K-7: I usually travel with two tripods. A heavy wooden Berlebach and a simple metal tripod that has the great advantage of being set-up literally within seconds as you only need to push three locking tabs to make each of the legs unfold by spring force. Surprisingly solid and steady, that little thing. Put the K-7 with activated SR and Live View on the small tripod and within seconds the whole combination of camera and tripod will begin to strongly oscillate at around 10 Hertz. Obviously some resonance phenomenon triggered by the SR. Never seen anything like that before. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from it, but I haven't seen any harm from it, either. I've just recenty noticed a rather strange phenomenon with my K-7: I usually travel with two tripods. A heavy wooden Berlebach and a simple metal tripod that has the great advantage of being set-up literally within seconds as you only need to push three locking tabs to make each of the legs unfold by spring force. Surprisingly solid and steady, that little thing. Sounds very handy! Put the K-7 with activated SR and Live View on the small tripod and within seconds the whole combination of camera and tripod will begin to strongly oscillate at around 10 Hertz. Obviously some resonance phenomenon triggered by the SR. Never seen anything like that before. The reason I emphasized the really solid substrate part is that trying to shoot from a wooden observation platform often outright fails; when there's a bunch of other people trooping across the platform behind me, the wooden surface bounces, and the relatively long-period oscillation defeats the shake reduction. Nothing for it but to wait until they've all passed by and try again. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
I shot from a 30-foot high scissors lift with the K7 and a modest tripod (a Slik carbon fiber). The lift wasn't perfectly still, but I would wait to release the shutter until I couldn't sense any movement. Shake reduction was on, and I experienced no problems. On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Graydon wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I've never needed to turn the shake reduction off in the K20D. If I have the camera on a tripod on a really solid substrate -- bedrock, concrete footings -- I don't get any benefit from it, but I haven't seen any harm from it, either. I've just recenty noticed a rather strange phenomenon with my K-7: I usually travel with two tripods. A heavy wooden Berlebach and a simple metal tripod that has the great advantage of being set-up literally within seconds as you only need to push three locking tabs to make each of the legs unfold by spring force. Surprisingly solid and steady, that little thing. Sounds very handy! Put the K-7 with activated SR and Live View on the small tripod and within seconds the whole combination of camera and tripod will begin to strongly oscillate at around 10 Hertz. Obviously some resonance phenomenon triggered by the SR. Never seen anything like that before. The reason I emphasized the really solid substrate part is that trying to shoot from a wooden observation platform often outright fails; when there's a bunch of other people trooping across the platform behind me, the wooden surface bounces, and the relatively long-period oscillation defeats the shake reduction. Nothing for it but to wait until they've all passed by and try again. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
On Aug 27, 2009, at 07:00 , P. J. Alling wrote: Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Most of my photography of dogs is either panning or hoping the 'predictive' auto-focus will afford me some good shots. As far as panning goes, I never turn SR off, and my opinion is it has little effect on the sharpness or quality of the resulting images. I rarely remember to turn it off when I'm on a tripod with a remote release! What I'm saying is that Pentax probably realized that in fact leaving it on all the time for an outdoor shooter, or off all the time for a studio shooter, was not that important a deal. Given that their users weren't complaining, they relegated the switch function to a less intrusive menu item. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K-7 WB weirdness continues
and the address for those files would be ... ? On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I've posted two full PEFs on my web site. The time difference between them is like 5 mins. The light was coming from the window and the sun was fairly up in the sky for 7:10am or thereabouts. Initially, the little brain locked itself at something like uncorrected tungsten lighting. Then I played with WB settings some and returned all back to where it was. It took 3-4 mins. Then it started giving me these subtle yet annoying purple/magenta skin tones. Since both shots are of my little daughter, I won't put the links on public list. Please contact me off-list if you want to have a look at these PEFs. Frankly, I am quite troubled by this kind of behavior of the camera. The intermittent problems such as this are the worst case scenario should I have to pay a visit to the local service. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
I think you're missing the point. It's not the photoshopping that people are upset about, it's the racism. Bob You'd think a company that big could just take another shot. These days things like that get picked up with too high a probability to mess with them. [...] No comments are needed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=news; tag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Question about filters
Some of the digital filters have a different infra-red response from their film equivalents. Hello PDML! Several brands, such as Hoya and Rodenstock (the ones I can easily buy in Portugal), have filters design for digital cameras and the other filters for film cameras. Is this just marketing or do these filters 'excel' when used in digital cameras? If they 'excel' with digital cameras, which is their behavior when used in film cameras, compared to as similar as possible (?!?) 'film filters'? BTW, I want to buy two circular polarizing filters. Thanks in advance! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
In a message dated 8/27/2009 4:12:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, alunf...@gmail.com writes: Or they'll have someone else do their ads next time. 2009/8/27 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: No comments are needed: http:// news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps == It really sounded to me like, MS had an ad they liked, but some EMPLOYEE in another office, the Poland office, changed it for Poland. That's why I said it was an odd thing to do. Also immensely stupid. Like no one would notice? Maybe they thought head office MS wouldn't check up? Marnie aka Doe :-) As it's very IN to have as many races in an ad as possible, in the US. - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:44 , Graydon wrote: Which is not to say that the factory QC might not need work; it always will. But the kinds of errors people report are the kinds of things that go with that got rattled -- stuck autofocus, SDM motor won't engage, some lens element is out of alignment, the camera turns on but one specific function is borked -- and all of those are consistent with container shipping is kinda brutal combined with Pentax uses really traditional packaging, from the days where someone was going to pick up a smallish crate by hand. I don't know the truth, but I think that most if not all of Pentax's production is shipped by air to various common carrier terminals throughout the world for distribution locally. (DHL, UPS, FedEx) Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
In a message dated 8/27/2009 11:23:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I think you're missing the point. It's not the photoshopping that people are upset about, it's the racism. Bob = I think we all get that Bob. It's pretty obvious. It's just not a good photoshopping job either. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Still no split-image screen for the K-7?
Yes, positively little to no protection to be had from the double layer of cardboard plus nylon pouch that my lenses all came in, couldn't agree more. The box of the replacement DA* 16-50 collected personally from Pentax Hamburg showed signs of having gotten wet over half the surface area of the top lid. Wouldn't know what that would be consistent with, probably a case for transport forensics. But I really never thought of it that way; you sure have a point, Graydon Cheers Ecke On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:44 , Graydon wrote: Which is not to say that the factory QC might not need work; it always will. But the kinds of errors people report are the kinds of things that go with that got rattled -- stuck autofocus, SDM motor won't engage, some lens element is out of alignment, the camera turns on but one specific function is borked -- and all of those are consistent with container shipping is kinda brutal combined with Pentax uses really traditional packaging, from the days where someone was going to pick up a smallish crate by hand. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
In a message dated 8/26/2009 2:54:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml.l...@gmail.com writes: What a beautiful place. Sigh. Some very nice shots there. Not going to tell you what to kick out and what to keep. One suggestion -- the people shots are often in bright light, so there is a great deal of contrast and faces and upper bodies are often too dark to see much detail (like the guys sitting down). So I'd post process them (more?) to bring up a little more detail in the shadows. Some very nice shots, Sasha. Looks like fun. Marnie === hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview. Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time. Now, you are limited to one page. When I went to upload today, there were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10. This appears to be because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at the same time or weeks later have been declined. I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there. Dan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon == I guess that means that traffic has increased that much since it started. QUITE a change (over time). Might have something to do with Pentax having released new versions of digital cameras more rapidly in recent years. :-) Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
Btw, how do you get into ppg? I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but never got anything from them. --Sasha On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview. Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time. Now, you are limited to one page. When I went to upload today, there were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10. This appears to be because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at the same time or weeks later have been declined. I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there. Dan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon == I guess that means that traffic has increased that much since it started. QUITE a change (over time). Might have something to do with Pentax having released new versions of digital cameras more rapidly in recent years. :-) Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cool cloud photo
Perhaps I should put Irony alert on my future posts... I've noticed that just about anything not seen before is a sign of global warming, the coming zombie apocalypse, etc... Anthony Farr wrote: 2009/8/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: A symptom of global warming if ever I've seen one... Morning glory clouds have been a feature of the Gulf of Carpentaria for long, long before global warming was ever discussed. Wikipedia has a good page for a quick lesson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Glory_cloud and if you read the section called 'Scenario for formation' you'll understand why they're a product of the local topography and weather conditions rather than harbingers of doom. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Well they tell you not to, and I've tried a couple of pans, which should have come out in my opinion, which looked somewhat double exposed... Paul Stenquist wrote: I pan with the K7. No problems: http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/17/automobiles/collectibles/0817-woodward_8.html I also pan with the K20D with SR turned on. It doesn't cause any problems. The sweeping motion of a pan is far outside the range of motion that SR tries to control. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's funny, I hadn't had a camera with SR until I got the K20D, so I didn't notice the removal of the SR switch in the Pictures of the K-7. The SR switch is a shooting control. Maybe not as important as manual control of the focus point, but until Pentax comes up with an SR system that's smart enough to know when the photographer is panning, turning it off at a moments notice will be a necessity . Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Boris Liberman wrote: Here goes; http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/08/pentax-k-7-review-part-2.html Be brutal and honest. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: very unusal K-7 promotional video
This is cool! On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sylwester Pietrzykp...@o2.pl wrote: There's a series of Russian K-7 promotional videos talking about it's use during weddings :-) BTW - funny ideas for very unusal wedding. I especially like scene with chickens :-D Just wait and click in one of the alternative stories at the end of normal wedding scene ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CvkDFUHbIfmt=22 Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about filters
I'm betting on marketing in most cases, there may be some special filters, say the magenta correction filters for the Leica M8, but really there should be no real difference, light is after all light. Then again I thin special digital lenses are mostly marketing hype as well. Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Hello PDML! Several brands, such as Hoya and Rodenstock (the ones I can easily buy in Portugal), have filters design for digital cameras and the other filters for film cameras. Is this just marketing or do these filters 'excel' when used in digital cameras? If they 'excel' with digital cameras, which is their behavior when used in film cameras, compared to as similar as possible (?!?) 'film filters'? BTW, I want to buy two circular polarizing filters. Thanks in advance! -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
Sasha: I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their instructions. They should send you a photographer ID that will allow you to register. They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did. Dan On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote: Btw, how do you get into ppg? I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but never got anything from them. --Sasha On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview. Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time. Now, you are limited to one page. When I went to upload today, there were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10. This appears to be because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at the same time or weeks later have been declined. I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there. Dan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon == I guess that means that traffic has increased that much since it started. QUITE a change (over time). Might have something to do with Pentax having released new versions of digital cameras more rapidly in recent years. :-) Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Har ki dun trek photos
Very, very interesting photos - looks like your trip was really good. Make mine the Little Well Wisher, but the sunset at sankhri is impressive and the whole gallery makes me dream about getting on the road. Another great image is swargarohini peak... Very well done! lf Subash escreveu: hi, pictures from my first trek in the himalayas, which turned out to be an amazing experience. this is an attempt at a pictorial narrative of that experience. :) it was an eight days trip, though the actual trek was for five days, covering 75km. we trekked from a place called sankhri, approximately 6200 ft, to a place called har ki dun, at about 11,600 ft. had taken extensive tips from dave savage to try and do some star trails photography but, as it turned out, it was the monsoon season and it was mostly cloudy. it is a rather large collection (30) and i realise one ought to be ruthlessly deleting the bad ones but, to give a slightly different spin on bill robb's words, i guess my standards are rather low :-) do tell me what you think: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/HKD# regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
Daniel, Thanks! I think it was few weeks ago when I e-mailed them. Seems pretty slow. --Sasha On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Sasha: I sent in your name and email address to PPG in accordance with their instructions. They should send you a photographer ID that will allow you to register. They don't seem to be responding as quickly as they once did. Dan On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote: Btw, how do you get into ppg? I I wrote them via contact us at ppg site quite some time ago but never got anything from them. --Sasha On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview. Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time. Now, you are limited to one page. When I went to upload today, there were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10. This appears to be because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at the same time or weeks later have been declined. I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there. Dan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon == I guess that means that traffic has increased that much since it started. QUITE a change (over time). Might have something to do with Pentax having released new versions of digital cameras more rapidly in recent years. :-) Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: very unusal K-7 promotional video
Deathmatch is funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGNATqdeocfeature=related On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote: This is cool! On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sylwester Pietrzykp...@o2.pl wrote: There's a series of Russian K-7 promotional videos talking about it's use during weddings :-) BTW - funny ideas for very unusal wedding. I especially like scene with chickens :-D Just wait and click in one of the alternative stories at the end of normal wedding scene ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CvkDFUHbIfmt=22 Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
I don't know perhaps it's both, since combined the make the Racism even more evident. Bob W wrote: I think you're missing the point. It's not the photoshopping that people are upset about, it's the racism. Bob You'd think a company that big could just take another shot. These days things like that get picked up with too high a probability to mess with them. [...] No comments are needed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rsssubj=news; tag=2547-1_3-0-20 or http://tinyurl.com/ms-poor-ps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
Speck!!! 2009/8/27 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com: http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
Thu Aug 27 13:33:14 CDT 2009 Eactivist wrote: In a message dated 8/27/2009 11:23:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml at web-options.com writes: I think you're missing the point. It's not the photoshopping that people are upset about, it's the racism. Bob = I think we all get that Bob. It's pretty obvious. It's just not a good photoshopping job either. Marnie aka Doe ;-) What she said. On another hand, after thinking about it further, I am not sure if it can be classified as racism. I am not even talking about distinction of racism and xenophobia (or prejudice), although one can argue that the latter in mono- or almost mono-national and mono-racial countries could be prevailing. I am talking about effectiveness of advertisement. It is typical and reasonable that any advertisement that is targeting some particular population (or a part of it) uses means that appeal to that population. The potential buyers need to be able to associate themselves with the advertisement personages. Despite all PC hype, for most cases, companies like Victoria Secrets do not advertise bras using male models. Tools/guns/... advertisements tend to use male actors using them (with an exception of female actors posing in bikini next to the advertised object - but that could be considered even more sexist). Kid's toys advertisements use kids playing with those toys, not the seniors. Etc, etc. There is nothing wrong with that. In Poland, obviously, the population is more racially uniform than, say, in the US. Hence, it would be less effective to use people from other races and even visually different nationalities to be in the pictures (unless the stress is specifically on the international nature of the advertised object). One of the responses (unrelated to PDML) from Europe was that it's strange that MS didn't try to replace the asian-looking person. So, I think, in this case, the situation would be equivalent to replacing a picture of a man in an advertisement originally targeted at men, with a picture of a woman, for the the ad is presented to a female audience, or changing the age of the person, to match the targeted audience... To summarize, - MS did a sloppy job - in many aspects, and it may not be necessarily racism. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
On 27/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg LOL! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
To everyone who thinks the Pentax has decided that SR can be left on while panning, perhaps they should update their documentation. Page two on this PDF hosted at the Pentaximaging.com site http://www.pentaximaging.com/pdf/All_Bodies_Shake_Reduction_012208.pdf or the K-7 manual on page 310 of the K-7 manual http://www.pentaximaging.com/pdf/K-7_e_web.pdf or the K20D manual on page 267 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/scms_docs//K20D_Manual.pdf I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to check out the manuals for the K10D, K100D, K200D and K2000/K-m. But I'll wager they all say it's best to turn off SR while panning, as well as while using a tripod, taking macros, etc. I think I'll take the word of the Pentax engineers and marketing folks that SR should be turned off, I tried a couple of panned shots of flying birds and they came out looking double exposed. I deleted them but I'm sure I'll forget to turn SR off again, and I'll post some samples. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 07:00 , P. J. Alling wrote: Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Most of my photography of dogs is either panning or hoping the 'predictive' auto-focus will afford me some good shots. As far as panning goes, I never turn SR off, and my opinion is it has little effect on the sharpness or quality of the resulting images. I rarely remember to turn it off when I'm on a tripod with a remote release! What I'm saying is that Pentax probably realized that in fact leaving it on all the time for an outdoor shooter, or off all the time for a studio shooter, was not that important a deal. Given that their users weren't complaining, they relegated the switch function to a less intrusive menu item. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
You own me a keyboard. Scott Loveless wrote: http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
Sorta glad they're doing this. Probably won't completely discourage someone uploading 27 water droplet images, but will only make it a little less convenient. I hope they're considering a monthly quota..or some such. Jack --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PPG quota To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:08 PM It seems that PPG is now limiting each submitter to 10 images UnderReview. Previously, there were ten input boxes when you went to the unload page, and you could submit more than one page (10 photos) at a time. Now, you are limited to one page. When I went to upload today, there were nine input boxes instead of the usual 10. This appears to be because I have one image that has been sitting in the Submission Complete section for several weeks, although photos I submitted at the same time or weeks later have been declined. I wasn't able to submit any new images until I had cleaned out the Declined section by deleting the photos that were still there. Dan On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2009 4:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bongmana...@gmail.com writes: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon == I guess that means that traffic has increased that much since it started. QUITE a change (over time). Might have something to do with Pentax having released new versions of digital cameras more rapidly in recent years. :-) Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
Geez, I thought he had a Triumph Tiger not a Panda . . . -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K-7 WB weirdness continues
See below... -p Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: and the address for those files would be ... ? On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: snip *Since both shots are of my little daughter, I won't put the links on public list. Please contact me off-list if you want to have a look at these PEFs.* Frankly, I am quite troubled by this kind of behavior of the camera. The intermittent problems such as this are the worst case scenario should I have to pay a visit to the local service. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.70/2329 - Release Date: 08/27/09 08:11:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K-7 WB weirdness continues
Sorry, I thought I'd put the address in to go to Boris directly. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Paul Sorensonallarou...@earthlink.net wrote: See below... -p Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: and the address for those files would be ... ? On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: snip *Since both shots are of my little daughter, I won't put the links on public list. Please contact me off-list if you want to have a look at these PEFs.* Frankly, I am quite troubled by this kind of behavior of the camera. The intermittent problems such as this are the worst case scenario should I have to pay a visit to the local service. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.70/2329 - Release Date: 08/27/09 08:11:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Microsoft cannot Photoshop
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org wrote: What she said. On another hand, after thinking about it further, I am not sure if it can be classified as racism. I am not even talking about distinction of racism and xenophobia (or prejudice), although one can argue that the latter in mono- or almost mono-national and mono-racial countries could be prevailing. I am talking about effectiveness of advertisement. It is typical and reasonable that any advertisement that is targeting some particular population (or a part of it) uses means that appeal to that population. The potential buyers need to be able to associate themselves with the advertisement personages. Despite all PC hype, for most cases, companies like Victoria Secrets do not advertise bras using male models. Tools/guns/... advertisements tend to use male actors using them (with an exception of female actors posing in bikini next to the advertised object - but that could be considered even more sexist). Kid's toys advertisements use kids playing with those toys, not the seniors. Etc, etc. There is nothing wrong with that. In Poland, obviously, the population is more racially uniform than, say, in the US. Hence, it would be less effective to use people from other races and even visually different nationalities to be in the pictures (unless the stress is specifically on the international nature of the advertised object). One of the responses (unrelated to PDML) from Europe was that it's strange that MS didn't try to replace the asian-looking person. So, I think, in this case, the situation would be equivalent to replacing a picture of a man in an advertisement originally targeted at men, with a picture of a woman, for the the ad is presented to a female audience, or changing the age of the person, to match the targeted audience... To summarize, - MS did a sloppy job - in many aspects, and it may not be necessarily racism. Igor While I agree on the whole, I'm not surprised they didn't remove the Asian individual, who could pass for one of several ethnic minorities that exist in the region that contains Poland. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
In a message dated 8/27/2009 1:45:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sdlovel...@gmail.com writes: http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ == Heheheheheh. Marnie - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cool cloud photo
In a message dated 8/27/2009 7:22:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, farranth...@gmail.com writes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Glory_cloud and if you read the section called 'Scenario for formation' you'll understand why they're a product of the local topography and weather conditions rather than harbingers of doom. regards, Anthony = Party pooper. Harbingers of doom are more fun. (Thanks for article, sort of fascinating.) Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris reviews Pentax K-7 (part 2)
Page 310 of the K7 manual deals with SD card capacity in different modes. Page 2 of the PDF at the Pentaximaging.com site says shake reduction can be turned off when panning. Doesn't say it has to be turned off. I know that great pan results can be achieved with SR left on. I make judgements based on results rather than on the opinion of others. Paul On Aug 27, 2009, at 4:55 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: To everyone who thinks the Pentax has decided that SR can be left on while panning, perhaps they should update their documentation. Page two on this PDF hosted at the Pentaximaging.com site http://www.pentaximaging.com/pdf/All_Bodies_Shake_Reduction_012208.pdf or the K-7 manual on page 310 of the K-7 manual http://www.pentaximaging.com/pdf/K-7_e_web.pdf or the K20D manual on page 267 http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/scms_docs//K20D_Manual.pdf I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to check out the manuals for the K10D, K100D, K200D and K2000/K-m. But I'll wager they all say it's best to turn off SR while panning, as well as while using a tripod, taking macros, etc. I think I'll take the word of the Pentax engineers and marketing folks that SR should be turned off, I tried a couple of panned shots of flying birds and they came out looking double exposed. I deleted them but I'm sure I'll forget to turn SR off again, and I'll post some samples. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Aug 27, 2009, at 07:00 , P. J. Alling wrote: Removing the switch and making it a small production to turn SR on and off shows what I think is a Point and Shoot design mentality the same thing that resulted in the focus control debacle, This type of mentality doesn't belong in the design of a relatively high end camera, hell, it doesn't belong in the design of Point an Shoot camera. Unlike the focus point issue it looks like it's not an easy a fix, what with the hardware switch being gone and all... Most of my photography of dogs is either panning or hoping the 'predictive' auto-focus will afford me some good shots. As far as panning goes, I never turn SR off, and my opinion is it has little effect on the sharpness or quality of the resulting images. I rarely remember to turn it off when I'm on a tripod with a remote release! What I'm saying is that Pentax probably realized that in fact leaving it on all the time for an outdoor shooter, or off all the time for a studio shooter, was not that important a deal. Given that their users weren't complaining, they relegated the switch function to a less intrusive menu item. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cool cloud photo
In a message dated 8/24/2009 2:54:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dmann@ .net.nz writes: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day... http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090824.html Cheers. Dave === It's alien space ships. They just create a cloud trails to cover their passage through the sky. Marnie aka Doe Can't fool me. :-) Maybe they're just trying to hide from the black helicopters. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2009 - 152 - GDG
another photo, another blog entry ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/152-planes comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark Roberts spotted in Boston
P. J. Alling wrote: You own me a keyboard. Scott Loveless wrote: http://pintumbler.org/Misc/eek/bike_corner.jpg Bike Stig! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
In a message dated 8/26/2009 10:23:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bran.everseek...@sasktel.net writes: Ditto. I got to fred miranda now and then (because I have a Canon), and to dpreview. Very infrequently and mainly when I want to buy new camera equipment and/or I am window shopping. Which is fun sometimes even without buying anything. Pretty much everything else that I need I get here. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, except the puns. I could live without those. == agreed ann I am just old fashioned and get my mail lists in my mail program though the PUG is a monthly adventure - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
I visit here, the FourThirds forum, the GetDPI forum, DPReview hell, and photo.net most days. Lately I'm inclined to read online magazines and blogs I've subscribed to rather more than mailing lists and forums. Lens Culture is a good one, as is Guernica blog and magazine. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 152 - GDG
On Aug 27, 2009, at 18:15, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: another photo, another blog entry ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/152-planes Pretty! And I am also in the this is a real photograph camp. I can see using software to adjust (dodge/burn/tint) like one would do with an enlarger in a darkroom - but I don't like the idea of assembling a photograph from many elements. It works for some.. it's interesting to see what they can do... but it doesn't have the magic of getting the shot. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PPG quota
Okay, I get it now ... we have a quota of 10 per week. I was not paying attention when I uploaded something like 9 photos and came back a day later to find there was only 1 box available. Still tames the beast :-) On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Bong Manayonbongmana...@gmail.com wrote: After a long spell, I uploaded something in PPG and discovered that we now have a quota of 1 upload a week. Should make voting easier... -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birthday
From: mike wilson John Sessoms wrote: From: mike wilson John Sessoms wrote: From: Scott Loveless On 8/24/09, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Bob W wrote: It's my Leica M3's birthday today. 50 years old, and much more reliable than my M8, which will be lucky to survive infancy. For the M3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0 Oh, God! Get it out of my head! Most promising new group of 1981? Crashed and burned after three albums, I believe. Maybe it should have been Most promising new group of 1981 that has a Scottish, female lead singer who has done a bit of acting and who will eventually go on to be in Red Dwarf. Played the role of the computer? Kochanski. I don't know Kochanski from the few episodes that appeared on PBS before I lost my TV. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
http://riotclitshave.livejournal.com/ I don't think even the site title would get past our filtering system. I'm certainly not going to try. It's a play on right-click save. Sometimes there are NSFW photos on that LJ, but the woman who posts there has pretty good taste. I follow a bunch of photo blogs/image aggregators via LiveJournal and RSS feeds (via Google Reader). Here are five: http://ound.com/ Awesome image aggregator. Stuff ends up here from every corner of the web. Occasionally NSFW. http://industrialdecay.blogspot.com/ Photos of industrial and urban decay. NOTE: High-bandwidth site. LOTS of photos on the main page, but worth every one of them! http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/ The URL is as much description as you should need. http://npocto-kpacota.livejournal.com/ Russian (I'm guessing) LJ featuring photos that are usually heavily photoshopped, but still quite pretty. http://failblog.org/ Photos of failures of various kinds. Basically, schadenfreude and facepalm moments. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Larry Colen wrote: Nowdays, ours are too. It has become what production was 30-40 years ago. Also, with the economy, I hear that SM only has fields of 35-40 cars rather than 65-70. At the last race I worked, which was back in February, the turnout was better than expected, but the Spec Miata crowd did drop from the seventies to the forties or fifties. Their drop was about in line with the drops in the rest of the fields, though, percentage-wise. The economy has taken a lot out of the amateur racing fields, since that's all luxury spending. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Punting
From: P. J. Alling David Mann wrote: On Aug 25, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Bob W wrote: Thanks Igor. I was in the same punt for a while, then in a 'chase' punt :) Sounds like one of the more animated episodes of Morse... I can't say I've seen a lot of Bond films but I doubt there's been a punt chase yet... Dave Hopped up Gondola on the Venetian canals IIRC... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0nSMS594Qfeature=related -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Ken Waller wrote: Hard to come up with another car manufacturer that currently pushes their involvement in motor sport more than Mazda, at least in the popular media stream. Well, they push it for current racers, they push it in auto and racing related media, but aside from the one broad-distribution commercial I remember with the more Mazdas on any given Sunday message a couple of years ago, they haven't produced any commercials that left that message with /my/ memory. Of course, that may be more of a comment on my memory. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Paul Stenquist wrote: Although I don't think bizarre was a goal. It just ended up that way. They were meant to suggest a kind of youthful delight with a car that performs well. You see, you're illustrating my point, even though even I didn't really realize it. Basically, I think they need to hire some different people to figure out how to communicate with Americans. I can see how some of the subtle stuff they've done the last decade or so could play positively in Japan, but it's a washout here ... the average American doesn't catch subtlety, they're too full of American Idol and Lost and the god-awful mishmash of so-called reality shows. :-) Excuse my French, but if that's reality we are so totally fucked it'd probably be a blessing if the human race just ended now. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: photographing outdoor car shows Excuse my French, but if that's reality we are so totally fucked it'd probably be a blessing if the human race just ended now. Nah, just a select group of North Americans (non of whom are PDML members, I should add) Do I really need to put a smiley here? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My K-7 WB weirdness continues
Boris wrote: I've posted two full PEFs on my web site. The time difference between them is like 5 mins. The light was coming from the window and the sun was fairly up in the sky for 7:10am or thereabouts. Initially, the little brain locked itself at something like uncorrected tungsten lighting. Then I played with WB settings some and returned all back to where it was. It took 3-4 mins. Then it started giving me these subtle yet annoying purple/magenta skin tones. - With every Pentax electronic camera I have owned, I have found that the electronics get confused after a little manipulation and cannot find their way back to the original readings. Changing the settings seems to be a one-way street, as far as automation goes. Usually hitting the green button makes everything work again. Does the green button reset the white balance in the K-7? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Charles Robinson wrote: You don't remember the It's a Great Little Car jingles?? Actually, that specific line is all I can remember. But I owned a GLC and it was... a great little car. Not even the ghost of an echo, or an echo of a ghost, or whatever. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
Larry Colen wrote: boing, boing, boing ... hmmm OK, that one I remember, now that you mention it. The psychologists and such would say that I have recognition but not recall: if you mention it, I will remember, but I can't come up with it on my own. In other words, not independently memorable. Am I dating myself? I don't know, but don't let any hair grow on your palms. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing outdoor car shows
William Robb wrote: Nah, just a select group of North Americans (non of whom are PDML members, I should add) Not just North Americans. Imagine the sound of a pump-action shotgun's action operating. Which, by the way, is the scariest sound in the world for a burglar in the US since about the 1970s, according to more than one FBI survey of prison inmates convicted of burglary and related offenses. Do I really need to put a smiley here? Do I? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the web: what are the 5 must go to photo sites each day ?
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:22:38 -0400 (EDT) eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, except the puns. I could live without those. there have been puns? :0) -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
