Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-03 Thread Alan C



Only Darkroom here. Load shedding has returned with a vengeance.

Alan C
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't think it's odd at all. For whatever solution I've come up with to do 
almost anything since I've known you, you've come up with a solution which is 
almost always the exact opposite. LOL! 

I use LR to work the organization of file on my hard drive for me 
automatically, and use IPTC information to establish categories, much of it 
automatically embedded into the metadata on import. If I then need files 
grouped by category (ie: by customer, or by job, or by project), I can find all 
the categories I want and move the files into such named directories inside LR 
efficiently and quickly, retaining the date organization .. or not .. according 
to my needs. Absolutely all of my original image file manipulations are on 
external volumes too, without exception. I use ONE working drive as fundamental 
repository, and two archive drives to secure and back that up ... period. This 
way I always know where everything in the working set, and the archive sets, 
is, primarily  by date but also by subgroups in the file system as well as by 
metadata descriptors like keywords, camera type, etc.  

Constantly renaming and changing parts of the original file storage system 
externally is most likely why LR does what it does in your case. 

How you want to manage your workflow is your business, I know many different 
ways to do it. I do what I do because I find it most useful, outside of LR, to 
locate things by the dates I remember, not by whatever "category du jour" I 
dreamed up at the time I imported them. I also arranged this setup so that if I 
dumped LR tomorrow and moved to another image processing toolset, I could do so 
without any losses other than my image processing/rendering efforts on 
unfinished work … the IPTC metadata is readable by almost any good image 
management software, and I save that into the files every time I do an import. 

My goal in responding was to explore what MIGHT be the issue that you are 
running into, not to tell you how to run your workflow. I don't really care 
about that. 

G

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
>> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
>> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.
> 
> Oddly, you and I seem to have different workflows.  I import files into my 
> "photos_fresh" directory on my SSD.  I then organize them into topical 
> subdirectories when processing.  You aren't interested in the full directory 
> tree methodology, but this way if Lightroom ever goes away, I have a nice 
> logical way of finding things in whatever I use next.  
> 
> Once I have finished processing, or at least sorting, the files they get 
> copied onto long term storage, an external case with my entire catalog on a 
> couple of drives. And every so often, I do a "catchup", where I "export to 
> catalog" all of the files I have edited since my last catchup, and then 
> import those changes to my "everything" catalog.  
> 
> Since I mostly only use the external drives when I'm archiving files, or 
> occasionally reworking old files, I don't usually even have it plugged in or 
> connected to the trashcan, protecting it from anything that might go wrong 
> with the computer.
> 
>> 
>> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
>> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
>> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
>> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
>> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
>> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
>> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
>> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
>> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
>> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
>> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it 
>> up this way.
> 
> Hmm, interesting, it is convenient for me to know where certain directory 
> trees are.  Some years are on one of the external drives, other years on the 
> other. There are other branches as well.  I suppose that I could add some 
> meaningless directories "above" the ones I'm interested in, but even so I 
> don't believe I show all of the way to the root of each external drive
> 
>> 
>> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
>> 
>> G
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 
 I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
 "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard 
 

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 11:21 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> My basic file system: Folders = -Master for values of  from 2002 to 
> 2024. Subfolders are  - 01Jan,  - 02Feb, etc. I use a similar 
> approach for image naming, renaming on import to mmdd-NNx.dng, 
> building onto the in-camera naming sequence preceded by a camera designator 
> such as K1a, K1b, 645Z...
> 
> Space permitting, current year and previous year reside on my internal drive. 
> Whenever I do a major import or editing session, I copy the -Master to a 
> -Copy x, Copy x+1, etc. folder on 1 or two hard drives. If I go on a 
> trip, current and prior year’s -Copy x+1 is copied to a 2 TB SSD to take 
> along, both for en route backups from the laptop, but also in case I want to 
> go back into something from a few months ago. Back home, I copy from the SSD 
> to my internal drive in the appropriate - month folder(s) and then in LR 
> I point at those and have LR Synch.

This is very close to my directory tree.  Long term is basically
Year/month/shoot

with shoot named yymmdd_mnemonic
Under the shoot directory I may split things out as convenient, by person being 
photographed, set of photos in a panorama, type of airplane, then individual 
airplane.  

There may be multiple "shoot" directories that all start off with the same 
date: 240102
Or there may be several days in the same shoot directory with a date 
arbitrarily chosen for the naming.

So, I basically import into ~/photos_fresh/shoot
Organize the shoot directory/directories (if I import from different cameras 
into different directories)
Do all of my processing, then I'd move the shoot directory tree: 
~/photos_fresh/240102_example
into its final resting place:
/mnt/photo_bb/2024a/2401/240102_example


> 
> When I take pictures around home, I import via LR directly to my internal 
> drive in the appropriate month’s directory.
> 
> For me, I found that using named folders (e.g., Birds, Water Falls, baseball, 
> …) led me down too many rabbit holes, and I keep my folders by date. All 
> other cataloging is done first via key wording on import, 

I started out doing something like that, but ran into the same rabbit holes 
that you did I'm sure. 

I now do a mixture of the two, the date is the primary organization, but the 
same "date" might have several mnemonic trees:
230712_march_afb/bombers/b25

> modified/extended key wording during review/editing, and then Catalogs for 
> gathering images of some category or another. Annual favorites, Selections 
> from November trip, Macro Flowers, … When I am working on a photo book, I 
> drop selected images into catalogs/sub-catalogs in my preliminary preparation 
> phase.

I also make use of catalogs and key wording.  

> 
> One exception to my rule about sticking to  folders: I do have a folder 
> on my internal drive labeled Current Exports. Basically temporary storage for 
> images to post as a PESO, GESO, on FB, or send in an email to friends. Such 
> images typically have been given a reasonably high star rating in LR. I can 
> easily delete or lose the Current Export images and re-locate them within LR 
> by doing a screen by ratings.

I also have an extensive methodology of rating which is beyond the scope of 
this discussion.  I do wish that I could more easily set things up so that a 
photo could have multiple ratings, either by myself and someone doing another 
pass, or for different goals, but that is a whole nuther kettle of worms.

> 
> In your work flow, you mention “moving directories” from one place to 
> another. Are you using the OS to do this? Or are you doing this within LR?

I have learned from painful experience to move the directories using lightroom. 
 It is in this process that lightroom expands, contracts, and moves around the 
hard drives in its folders panel


--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com  sent from ret13est



--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
My basic file system: Folders = -Master for values of  from 2002 to 
2024. Subfolders are  - 01Jan,  - 02Feb, etc. I use a similar approach 
for image naming, renaming on import to mmdd-NNx.dng, building onto the 
in-camera naming sequence preceded by a camera designator such as K1a, K1b, 
645Z...

Space permitting, current year and previous year reside on my internal drive. 
Whenever I do a major import or editing session, I copy the -Master to a 
-Copy x, Copy x+1, etc. folder on 1 or two hard drives. If I go on a trip, 
current and prior year’s -Copy x+1 is copied to a 2 TB SSD to take along, 
both for en route backups from the laptop, but also in case I want to go back 
into something from a few months ago. Back home, I copy from the SSD to my 
internal drive in the appropriate - month folder(s) and then in LR I point 
at those and have LR Synch.

When I take pictures around home, I import via LR directly to my internal drive 
in the appropriate month’s directory.

For me, I found that using named folders (e.g., Birds, Water Falls, baseball, 
…) led me down too many rabbit holes, and I keep my folders by date. All other 
cataloging is done first via key wording on import, modified/extended key 
wording during review/editing, and then Catalogs for gathering images of some 
category or another. Annual favorites, Selections from November trip, Macro 
Flowers, … When I am working on a photo book, I drop selected images into 
catalogs/sub-catalogs in my preliminary preparation phase.

One exception to my rule about sticking to  folders: I do have a folder on 
my internal drive labeled Current Exports. Basically temporary storage for 
images to post as a PESO, GESO, on FB, or send in an email to friends. Such 
images typically have been given a reasonably high star rating in LR. I can 
easily delete or lose the Current Export images and re-locate them within LR by 
doing a screen by ratings.

In your work flow, you mention “moving directories” from one place to another. 
Are you using the OS to do this? Or are you doing this within LR?

Stan

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 1:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.
> 
> Do your files go directly to their final resting place?  Or do you have an 
> intermediate location on a fast drive for them?  It is when I move 
> directories from one drive to another that this happens.
> 
>> I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
>> list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
>> Folder…
>> Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking 
>> for.
>> Stan
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Larry Colen
>>> l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>>> follow the directions.
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
>> 
> 
> --
> Larry Colen
> l...@red4est.com  sent from ret13est
> 
> 
> 
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:17 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.

Do your files go directly to their final resting place?  Or do you have an 
intermediate location on a fast drive for them?  It is when I move directories 
from one drive to another that this happens.

> I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
> list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
> Folder…
> Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking 
> for.
> Stan
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel 
>> moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, 
>> moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order 
>> of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not 
>> strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Larry Colen
>> l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com  sent from ret13est



--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.

Oddly, you and I seem to have different workflows.  I import files into my 
"photos_fresh" directory on my SSD.  I then organize them into topical 
subdirectories when processing.  You aren't interested in the full directory 
tree methodology, but this way if Lightroom ever goes away, I have a nice 
logical way of finding things in whatever I use next.  

Once I have finished processing, or at least sorting, the files they get copied 
onto long term storage, an external case with my entire catalog on a couple of 
drives. And every so often, I do a "catchup", where I "export to catalog" all 
of the files I have edited since my last catchup, and then import those changes 
to my "everything" catalog.  

Since I mostly only use the external drives when I'm archiving files, or 
occasionally reworking old files, I don't usually even have it plugged in or 
connected to the trashcan, protecting it from anything that might go wrong with 
the computer.

> 
> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up 
> this way. 

Hmm, interesting, it is convenient for me to know where certain directory trees 
are.  Some years are on one of the external drives, other years on the other. 
There are other branches as well.  I suppose that I could add some meaningless 
directories "above" the ones I'm interested in, but even so I don't believe I 
show all of the way to the root of each external drive

> 
> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
>> 
>> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a 
>> drive when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and 
>> moving around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
>> 
>> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
>> ask it to?
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com  sent from ret13est



--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
Like Godfrey, I have not seen this behavior in LR.
I just looked, I right-clicked on some of my Folder and Drive names in the 
list, played a bit with the options such as Hide this Parent or Show Parent 
Folder…
Those are possibly the settings that Godfrey suggested you might be looking for.
Stan

> On Jan 1, 2024, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a "Folders" 
> panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. I've got 
> three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that whenever I 
> change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel moves to 
> the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, moving folders 
> from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order of the drives in 
> the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not strong enough to 
> figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Larry Colen
> l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood
> 
> 
> --
> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yes: I also have LR set to display only the directory name, not the entire 
directory path, in the Folders panel. That might be affecting dynamic ordering 
as well. 

I doubt this problem has anything to do with an engineering decision trying to 
"help you". It's probably just a consequence of the way LR parses the directory 
names and orders the tree dynamically. When you make changes that affect the 
whole tree, it changes the parsing and display calculations; the ordering 
likely bubbles up the most recent changes to the top of the list as a side 
effect. 

G


> On Jan 2, 2024, at 6:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
> Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
> panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.
> 
> The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
> through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo 
> storage directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all 
> folder hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I 
> don't see, in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire 
> directory of original image files starting at its local root. Any other 
> directory/file manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR 
> Classic, and cannot reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders 
> listing. There's no need to see the entire directory tree structure of the 
> import volumes, only the directory trees from which you have imported files, 
> which should always have a single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up 
> this way. 
> 
> That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 
> 
> G
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the 
>>> panel moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my 
>>> catalog, moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, 
>>> the order of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu 
>>> is just not strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
>> 
>> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a 
>> drive when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and 
>> moving around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
>> 
>> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
>> ask it to?
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I have, at present, three physical volumes comprising the media that LR 
Classic 13.1 has imported original files from in that list in the Folders 
panel. They never change place on the Folders panel.

The reason for this is probably because, when I set them up, I drilled down 
through the directory hierarchy on the volumes to the root of the photo storage 
directory trees and then told LR to "Hide Parent Directory" on all folder 
hierarchies above (or below, per your perspective) that point. So I don't see, 
in LR, all the other directories on the volumes; only the entire directory of 
original image files starting at its local root. Any other directory/file 
manipulations on these volumes is therefore invisible to LR Classic, and cannot 
reorder the placement of the volumes in the Folders listing. There's no need to 
see the entire directory tree structure of the import volumes, only the 
directory trees from which you have imported files, which should always have a 
single root.. that's my logic behind setting it up this way. 

That's my conjecture anyway. Try it. :D 

G

> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a 
>> "Folders" panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. 
>> I've got three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that 
>> whenever I change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel 
>> moves to the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, 
>> moving folders from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order 
>> of the drives in the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not 
>> strong enough to figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT.
> 
> Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a drive 
> when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and moving 
> around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.
> 
> Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't 
> ask it to?
--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't ask it to?

Man, that's the perennial question of software, isn't it?
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com



--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-01 Thread Larry Colen



> On Jan 1, 2024, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a "Folders" 
> panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. I've got 
> three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that whenever I 
> change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel moves to 
> the top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, moving folders 
> from the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order of the drives in 
> the panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not strong enough to 
> figure out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 

Edit, it's even worse than that, it will also collapse the display of a drive 
when it makes a change. So things keep changing out from under me, and moving 
around, often when I'm trying to move a folder to them.

Arrrgg!  Why do they insist on having software "help" me, when I don't ask 
it to?

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Stupid Lightroom Question

2024-01-01 Thread Larry Colen


I'm running Lightroom Classic 13.  Over on the left side there is a "Folders" 
panel, with the highest level of hierarchy being the hard drives. I've got 
three drives Mac SSD, photo_ba, and photo_bb.  The problem is that whenever I 
change something on one of the drives, it's position in the panel moves to the 
top. So, while I'm going through, cleaning up my catalog, moving folders from 
the primary drive to the longer term storage, the order of the drives in the 
panel keeps shifting around.  My google fu is just not strong enough to figure 
out how to get it to JUST STOP THAT. 



--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com.   sent from Mirkwood


--
%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List
To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Dumb Lightroom Question

2020-05-04 Thread John

On 5/4/2020 16:41:17, Eric Featherstone wrote:

On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 21:25, Bill  wrote:


So, somehow I have managed to not have any previews in Lightroom, so
what is happening is that as I scroll through my pictures, it is
building previews on the fly.
As you can imagine, this is quite time consuming, as I have to scroll
through the directory, wait for what is on the screen to build, and then
scroll down to another blank section of screen and wait for previews to
build, etc.

Is there a way to get Lightroom to point to a directory and build
previews without going to the effort of scrolling through all 36000 or
so images on my hard drive?


Navigate to a folder, or All Photographs in the navigator then from the menu
Library / Previews / Build 1:1 Previews
or
Library / Previews / Build Standard Sized Previews
(and it'll probably prompt you with Build full previews for all photos
or only one? if you only had one photo selected.)

(This is on 5.7.1 for Windows.)



Is this something you could start and then leave to churn away on its own?

Run once to let it build previews for all 36,000 images (over night or something 
like that) so that when you come back to it later you don't have to wait while 
it builds new previews every time you look through your images?


--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Dumb Lightroom Question

2020-05-04 Thread Bill

On 5/4/2020 2:41 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 21:25, Bill  wrote:


So, somehow I have managed to not have any previews in Lightroom, so
what is happening is that as I scroll through my pictures, it is
building previews on the fly.
As you can imagine, this is quite time consuming, as I have to scroll
through the directory, wait for what is on the screen to build, and then
scroll down to another blank section of screen and wait for previews to
build, etc.

Is there a way to get Lightroom to point to a directory and build
previews without going to the effort of scrolling through all 36000 or
so images on my hard drive?


Navigate to a folder, or All Photographs in the navigator then from the menu
Library / Previews / Build 1:1 Previews
or
Library / Previews / Build Standard Sized Previews
(and it'll probably prompt you with Build full previews for all photos
or only one? if you only had one photo selected.)

(This is on 5.7.1 for Windows.)



Thank you.
You are the best
Now we wait...


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Dumb Lightroom Question

2020-05-04 Thread Eric Featherstone
On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 21:25, Bill  wrote:
>
> So, somehow I have managed to not have any previews in Lightroom, so
> what is happening is that as I scroll through my pictures, it is
> building previews on the fly.
> As you can imagine, this is quite time consuming, as I have to scroll
> through the directory, wait for what is on the screen to build, and then
> scroll down to another blank section of screen and wait for previews to
> build, etc.
>
> Is there a way to get Lightroom to point to a directory and build
> previews without going to the effort of scrolling through all 36000 or
> so images on my hard drive?

Navigate to a folder, or All Photographs in the navigator then from the menu
Library / Previews / Build 1:1 Previews
or
Library / Previews / Build Standard Sized Previews
(and it'll probably prompt you with Build full previews for all photos
or only one? if you only had one photo selected.)

(This is on 5.7.1 for Windows.)

-- 
Eric

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Dumb Lightroom Question

2020-05-04 Thread Bill
So, somehow I have managed to not have any previews in Lightroom, so 
what is happening is that as I scroll through my pictures, it is 
building previews on the fly.
As you can imagine, this is quite time consuming, as I have to scroll 
through the directory, wait for what is on the screen to build, and then 
scroll down to another blank section of screen and wait for previews to 
build, etc.


Is there a way to get Lightroom to point to a directory and build 
previews without going to the effort of scrolling through all 36000 or 
so images on my hard drive?


thanks for any help..

bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Mar 18, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2020, at 18:08, Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> On 3/18/2020 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:
 
 I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I 
 am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
 Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.
 There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
 
> 
> Can you update Camera Raw independently of LR?

Camera Raw is a plug-in in the context of Adobe Photoshop, but it is an 
integrated, embedded component of Lightroom. Although they refer to it as 
Camera Raw (because the plug-in and the embedded contexts use the same code), 
you cannot update Camera Raw independently in the case of Lightroom. 

I run only macOS, iOS, and iPadOS machines. I can't tell you what works or 
doesn't on Linux, Windows, or Android OS platforms: I have no experience using 
them for photography or image processing purposes.

LR 6.14 had broken bits getting increasingly severe through macOS 10.14.x 
revisions. When I updated to macOS 10.15 "Catalina", LR broke and would not 
run. After doing an extensive amount of trails with various alternatives, On1 
being the most promising of them, I gave up for the present and installed 
Lightroom Classic … Because I needed to get some work done again. All the 
problems disappeared and I'm back to my usual productive photo workflow since, 
and the cost is a $10 per month charge to keep using it. I don't use the Adobe 
Cloud at all: with LR Classic, the application operates the same way it did 
with LR 6.x, but they do try to push you to use the Cloud services and the 
Lightroom Cloud-based version. I don't need to, I don't, and I won't.

And I keep looking for a usable alternative that nets the same productivity and 
consistency. I haven't found one yet, but Photos (supplied with macOS, iOS, and 
iPadOS) continues to look good when supplemented with "RAW Power" (by Gentlemen 
Coders - https://gentlemencoders.com) for more useful control of the rendering 
specifics. I also have Affinity Photo that works well as a Photoshop 
replacement. And a few other hopefuls that I'll test out when I get a chance. 

My new camera (Hasselblad 907x with the CFVII 50c digital back) produces native 
raw files that LR Classic understands and works very well with. Hasselblad also 
provides their own image processing and control software for macOS and 
iOS/iPadOS (Phocus 2 and Phocus 2 Mobile). I've tested this briefly so far: it 
works pretty well from what I have seen and offers some advantages for that 
camera over LR Classic, as well as extensive tethered operation in the case of 
Phocus 2 Mobile and the iPad Pro 11". I'll spend more time learning it and 
working with it as well. 

G
—
No matter where you go, there you are.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Bob Pdml


> On 18 Mar 2020, at 18:08, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/18/2020 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I 
>>> am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
>>> Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.
>>> There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
>>> 

Can you update Camera Raw independently of LR?


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Larry Colen

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/18/2020 12:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Ditto Larry. Did you change cameras or OSes?
> 
> This has been going on since I bought my K1, I don't recall if it happened 
> with my K3 files. I don't believe it is an OS thing. I'm pretty sure it was 
> happening on Win 7 as well. I am now using Win 10.

I upgraded to the K-1 several years ago, never had a problem, but I switched to 
DNG a few years before that.  

I’m also on a Mac which might make a difference.

If you aren’t going directly to DNG in camera, try converting a file and see if 
that makes a difference.

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote:

>I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When 
>I am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
>Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.
>There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
>
>Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, 
>neither of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go 
>away permanently?

Are you using out-of-camera Pentax DNG's? I always run mine through
DNG converter to update them to the latest spec and to save a little
storage space (it does compress them a little).

 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Larry Colen

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/18/2020 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I 
>>> am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
>>> Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.
>>> There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
>>> 
>>> Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, neither 
>>> of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go away 
>>> permanently?
>> Interesting.  I am using 6.14, and am not getting that notice.  Or at least 
>> I wasn’t as of yesterday.
> 
> Are you using a K1?

Yes, between Olga and I, K1, K3, K3-II, K5, all set to DNG.  Also my Pixel 3 
phone that is set to produce DNG raw files.


In a related note, does anyone have an old license for LR 6 that they aren’t 
using any more and would like to sell?  

> 
> bill
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 

--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Bill

On 3/18/2020 12:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Ditto Larry. Did you change cameras or OSes?



This has been going on since I bought my K1, I don't recall if it 
happened with my K3 files. I don't believe it is an OS thing. I'm pretty 
sure it was happening on Win 7 as well. I am now using Win 10.


bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Ditto Larry. Did you change cameras or OSes?

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I 
>> am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update Camera 
>> Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.
>> There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
>> 
>> Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, neither 
>> of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go away 
>> permanently?
> 
> Interesting.  I am using 6.14, and am not getting that notice.  Or at least I 
> wasn’t as of yesterday.
> 
> 
> --
> Larry Colen
> l...@red4est.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Bill

On 3/18/2020 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:

I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I am 
opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update Camera Raw 
to maintain full compatibility or some such.
There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.

Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, neither of 
which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go away permanently?


Interesting.  I am using 6.14, and am not getting that notice.  Or at least I 
wasn’t as of yesterday.



Are you using a K1?

bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Larry Colen

> On Mar 18, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When I am 
> opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update Camera Raw 
> to maintain full compatibility or some such.
> There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.
> 
> Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, neither 
> of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go away 
> permanently?

Interesting.  I am using 6.14, and am not getting that notice.  Or at least I 
wasn’t as of yesterday.


--
Larry Colen
l...@red4est.com




-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Stupid Lightroom Question

2020-03-18 Thread Bill
I am using Lightroom 6.14, which is no longer supported by updates. When 
I am opening  DNG files I get a pop up telling me that I need to update 
Camera Raw to maintain full compatibility or some such.

There is no "yes I know" tick box on the pop up to make it go away.

Short of buying into the subscription version or changing software, 
neither of which I am prepared to do, is there any way to make this go 
away permanently?


thanks

bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-13 Thread Mark C
I'm using Photoshop CS6 with ACR 9.1.1 and also LIghtroom v6.0. I only 
have two newer lenses - DFA 28-105 and DFA 15-30 - but profiles for both 
seem to be supported, even though Adobe says they are not.  Screenshots:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/lens-correction-in-acr-9?blog=9


The only thing is that neither  ACR or Lightroom detect the unsupported 
lenses. When I check "enable profile correction" nothing happens but if 
I then select Pentax under "Make"both ACR and LR detect the lens at that 
point and load the profile. The officially supported lenses are 
automatically detected without the lens make being entered.


This does not make the lens name appear in the file's exif data, but I 
think that running the raw files through an up to date version of Adobe 
DNG converter will add that info.


Mark




On 8/10/2018 11:56 AM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jostein

Yes.
The LensTagger plugin presents you with a screen where you can fill in 
the relevant data, and save it as a preset.
When you run the command, it is actually executed by another program, 
the exiftool by Phil Harvey. Afterwards, you need to update metadata 
from file in LR to see the change.


To run the plugin on multiple files, you just select them in the Library 
module before starting the plugin. The processing capacity seems to be a 
max limit of between 30 and 50 files somewhere.


Jostein

Den 11.08.2018 23:38, skrev Jos de Fotograaf:

Hi Jostijn,
Interesting option
Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually 
to each picture, sometimes in batch?

Greetz, Jos

On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to 
write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, 
and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill








--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf
Oh Bill make a copy of your old cameraraw file befor you start 
modifiying it!


On 8/11/2018 11:27 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote:

Hi Bill,
Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows:

I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is 
not known by light room,
When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows 
lens ID: 3 44
When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or 
Tamron lens"

Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44"

My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name 
"Sigma or Tamron lens"


LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this.

When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found 
the "3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens 
section by using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax")
As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I 
changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX"
From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at 
importing.


I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5.

In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other 
program).
In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not 
having or using.
See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that 
lens.

Change that name in the cameraraw file.
It can take some trial and error the get it right.
Greetz, Jos


On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill







--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf

Hi Jostijn,
Interesting option
Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually 
to each picture, sometimes in batch?

Greetz, Jos

On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to 
write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, 
and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect 
any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed 
as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill






--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread Jos de Fotograaf

Hi Bill,
Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows:

I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is not 
known by light room,
When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows 
lens ID: 3 44
When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or 
Tamron lens"

Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44"

My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name 
"Sigma or Tamron lens"


LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this.

When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found the 
"3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens section by 
using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax")
As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I 
changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX"
From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at 
importing.


I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5.

In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other 
program).
In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not 
having or using.

See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that lens.
Change that name in the cameraraw file.
It can take some trial and error the get it right.
Greetz, Jos


On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it 
is the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

Do you recon it would work with Adobe Bridge CS6?

On 8/10/2018 17:14, Jostein wrote:

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical 
setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens 
designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars 
you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more 
updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the 
wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or 
is this even possible?


thanks

bill






--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread lrc
It would be awesome if there was a collection of these lens profiles someplace. 
 Lr 6 doesn't even have one for the fa50/1.4

On August 10, 2018 2:14:02 PM PDT, Jostein  wrote:
>Bill,
>I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
>optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to
>write 
>specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and 
>well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.
>https://www.lenstagger.com/
>
>Jostein
>
>Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
>> I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect
>any 
>> more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
>> "unknown".
>> I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it
>is 
>> the wrong platform.
>> My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
>> correctly, or is this even possible?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>
>-- 
>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>PDML@pdml.net
>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
>follow the directions.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Jostein

Bill,
I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional 
optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write 
specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and 
well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO.

https://www.lenstagger.com/

Jostein

Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill:
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is 
the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Hi Bill,

I suspect someone on the list probably has a more detailed knowledge of 
this question. But maybe a small tidbit that I know could be helpful.


I am not sure what you meant by the "wrong platform": Mac vs. Windows or
LR CC vs earlier versions.


There is a tool "Adobe Lens Profile Creator" available for download for
both Mac and Windows:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#Adobe_Lens_Profile_Creator

What I don't know if this profile would work for the earlier versions of 
LR. More over, - I am not sure if this profile creator allows you to enter 
"unknown" lenses in the database. From what I understand, - it allows 
saving lens profiles for corrections in LR, but maybe it would also allow 
adding a new lens. You can try.


https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/lens-profile-support.html


Cheers,

Igor


Bill Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:57:46 -0700 wrote:

I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but 
unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get 
Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible?



thanks


bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Lightroom Question

2018-08-10 Thread Bill
I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any 
more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as 
"unknown".
I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is 
the wrong platform.
My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens 
correctly, or is this even possible?


thanks

bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom question

2016-12-15 Thread Larry Colen



Bill wrote:

I'm probably missing something obvious, but in Lightroom 6 (not CC),
when rating images by star, there is a banner popup that indicates an
image has just been given a rating.
Can it be made to go away?


If you wait about a second, it will go away.  If you don't want the 
notification at all, I'm sure you can find out if it can be turned off 
by watching an hour and a half of instructional videos, because that is 
so much easier than an indexed written manual.





thanks

bill



--
Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Lightroom question

2016-12-15 Thread Bill
I'm probably missing something obvious, but in Lightroom 6 (not CC), 
when rating images by star, there is a banner popup that indicates an 
image has just been given a rating.

Can it be made to go away?

thanks

bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas

2015-08-13 Thread Larry Colen



Larry Colen wrote:

The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things.
However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a
meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically
want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial
DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is
only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final
panorama?

I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the
export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped
area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF).

I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's
a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment.


I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this.  If you export a 
cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If 
you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that 
tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge.





--
Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est)

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas

2015-08-13 Thread Larry Colen
The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. 
However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a 
meteor trail in them.  Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically 
want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial 
DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is 
only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final 
panorama?


I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the 
export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped 
area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF).


I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's 
a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment.



--
Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est)

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas

2015-08-13 Thread Bill

On 13/08/2015 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Larry Colen wrote:

The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things.
However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a
meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically
want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial
DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is
only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final
panorama?

I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the
export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped
area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF).

I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's
a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment.


I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this.  If you export a
cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If
you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that
tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge.





I could have told you that. This is both the beauty and Achilles heel of 
the way Lightroom processes a file.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
 files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
 you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
themselves in the foot.

 If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
 and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.

The one hitch about Go to Folder in Library is that, by default,
Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the
folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The
higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting
Show Parent Folder until you have enough context.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread David Parsons
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
 files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
 you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

 I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
 add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
 themselves in the foot.

Hence, the part about Add.


 If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
 and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.

 The one hitch about Go to Folder in Library is that, by default,
 Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the
 folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The
 higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting
 Show Parent Folder until you have enough context.

Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file
system, because it opens File Explorer.


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
Aloha Photographer Photoblog
http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
 files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
 you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

 I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
 add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
 themselves in the foot.

The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

I'm not ready for full time teaching yet.

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:27 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
 files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
 you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

 I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you
 add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot
 themselves in the foot.

 Hence, the part about Add.

Huh?

My point is that it doesn't make sense to talk about Add from a
memory card. See page 23 of the manual:
http://helpx.adobe.com/pdf/lightroom_reference.pdf
Note: The Add and Move import methods are not available when
importing from a camera or camera card.

 Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file
 system, because it opens File Explorer.

I agree, and suggested that in my reply to John. I suggested it
instead of Go to Folder in Library because I thought Lightroom
hiding parent folders might be confusing.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
 exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
 exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

 I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
 Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
 camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?

Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing
symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The
edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also
couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very
frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no
time to work it out then.

I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston
yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be
a delete function for Folders.

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston
 yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
 me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be
 a delete function for Folders.

Right-click on it and Remove?

http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders

I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the
Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston
 yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
 me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be
 a delete function for Folders.

 Right-click on it and Remove?

 http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders

 I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the
 Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import.

Well I was right-clicking on the parent folder and no menu appears.
When I just now right-clicked on the also missing child folder I was
able to delete that, and so the parent disappeared too.

Thanks!

-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bill

On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:


The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(


I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?


Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing
symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The
edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also
couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very
frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no
time to work it out then.


Unclick the option that says Don't Import Suspected Duplicates



I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston
yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting
me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be
a delete function for Folders.

Right click on the folder and click remove. After that, you should get 
an option to remove the folder from the catalog or to delete it entirely.
If you don't get the remove entirely option, remove it from the catalog 
in Lightroom and then delete it manually from whatever location it has 
peen written to.


bill

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import 
methods. 

Godfrey

 On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
 exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(
 
 I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
 Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
 camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?
 
 Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Bruce Walker
This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
 directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
 with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
 simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import 
 methods.

 Godfrey

 On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did
 exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-(

 I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the
 Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a
 camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card?

 Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
-bmw

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In my experience, it's much more likely that the card had some issue with its 
file system at that time. 

It hardly matters, but in every case like this I've examined when I was 
teaching and doing client support, the issues were never resolved to be a LR 
fault, they were always something in the card, the camera, the cable, the 
reader, etc. 

If LR allowed Move or In Place mode operations, something about the card or in 
the chain of operations that mounted it did not inform LR that it was a DCIM 
storage device. It would be interesting to know what that was. :-)

Godfrey


 On Aug 20, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched.
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM 
 directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card 
 with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would 
 simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move 
 import methods.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread John

On 8/19/2014 10:32 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:


I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory 
card.


Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a
normal workflow.



It was a mistake for two reasons:

1. My photos didn't end up where I told Lightroom to put them.
2. I couldn't find my photos with Adobe Bridge or Windoze search.


But where the hell are my actual DNG files?


Right-click on a thumbnail, Show in Explorer.



Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make 
Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place.


--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In Lightroom, library mode, grid view, select the files. Then drag them to the 
folder in the Folders panel you want them to be located in. LR will do the move 
operation and update the database properly. 

Godfrey

 On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:04 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make 
 Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread John

Not even off topic here this time ...

I got my laptop out to exercise it before the PPofNC convention and 
re-installed software - Photoshop CS5, Lightroom 3.2 and Corel Painter 11.


This time when I installed Lightroom I managed to do so without it 
trying to catalog every image on both hard-drives.


But I am having another problem ...

I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my 
memory card. I can see the images IN LIGHTROOM. I can do all sorts of 
lightroom stuff to them ...


But where the hell are my actual DNG files?

Like if I wanted to open an image with Photoshop so I could convert it 
to a PSD file I can open with Painter?


NO, I am NOT going to upgrade lightroom to the latest version if I can't 
ever get the version I already paid for to work.


--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory 
 card.

Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a
normal workflow.

 But where the hell are my actual DNG files?

Right-click on a thumbnail, Show in Explorer.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom Question

2014-08-19 Thread David Parsons
Did you do a copy or move when doing the import?  If so, then the
files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is.  If
you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card.

If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it
and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Not even off topic here this time ...

 I got my laptop out to exercise it before the PPofNC convention and
 re-installed software - Photoshop CS5, Lightroom 3.2 and Corel Painter 11.

 This time when I installed Lightroom I managed to do so without it trying to
 catalog every image on both hard-drives.

 But I am having another problem ...

 I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my
 memory card. I can see the images IN LIGHTROOM. I can do all sorts of
 lightroom stuff to them ...

 But where the hell are my actual DNG files?

 Like if I wanted to open an image with Photoshop so I could convert it to a
 PSD file I can open with Painter?

 NO, I am NOT going to upgrade lightroom to the latest version if I can't
 ever get the version I already paid for to work.

 --
 Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
 Religion - Answers we must never question.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
Aloha Photographer Photoblog
http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom question

2014-06-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
Will this work?

Open the file with her tweaks
Create a develop preset
Open your original RAW file and create a virtual copy
Apply the preset of her tweaks to the new copy

-p

Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
 lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
 stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
 catalog back to the usb stick.
 
 I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my 
 edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new 
 location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the 
 latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my 
 disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file.
 
 How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Lightroom question

2014-06-17 Thread Stanley Halpin
I may not understand the question. But it would seem that if you do an 
import-from-catalog you will bring in her (changed) files. Or just the changes 
to the files. If you don’t want to lose your originals in the process, make a 
duplicate first. The re-import will “overwrite the original but your duplicate 
should stay as it was.

stan

On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
 lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
 stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
 catalog back to the usb stick.
 
 I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my 
 edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new 
 location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the 
 latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my 
 disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file.
 
 How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Lightroom question

2014-06-16 Thread Larry Colen
My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in 
lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb 
stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the 
catalog back to the usb stick.

I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my edits, 
but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new location, or 
importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the latter, unmounting 
the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my disk, it says it can’t 
have two things pointing to the same raw file.

How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies?


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: LightRoom question/idea

2013-11-01 Thread Bob W
What you are describing are Smart Collections.

B

 On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:16, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, wise people of PDML :-).
 
 I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a filter 
 and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I decide to 
 set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be from different 
 parameters... I sort some more pics and so on.
 
 Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter (state of 
 Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library module browsing? 
 Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Boris
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: LightRoom question/idea

2013-11-01 Thread Boris Liberman

On 11/1/2013 8:27 AM, Bob W wrote:

What you are describing are Smart Collections.

B


I'm unfamiliar with this feature. So it is time to get acquainted.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


LightRoom question/idea

2013-10-31 Thread Boris Liberman

Hello, wise people of PDML :-).

I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a 
filter and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I 
decide to set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be 
from different parameters... I sort some more pics and so on.


Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter 
(state of Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library 
module browsing? Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience?


Thanks.

Boris

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Bob W
Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected. 

Award each photo one star. 

Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
one star. 

As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star. 

When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars. 

Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.

B

On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.
 
 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark a 
 photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or other 
 things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without spoiling the 
 set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.
 
 The LR in question is 4.4.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Boris
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Great idea, Bob! Thanks!

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected.

 Award each photo one star.

 Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
 one star.

 As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star.

 When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars.

 Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.

 B

 On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.

 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark 
 a photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or 
 other things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without 
 spoiling the set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.

 The LR in question is 4.4.

 Thanks in advance.

 Boris

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
Boris

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-22 Thread Stan Halpin
Alternative solution:

When you end a session, then Select all those you've looked at. Keyword as 
Reviewed. Every time you resume, use the same filter and ordering to pull your 
10k photos, then filter that set on the Keyword Reviewed. The last picture in 
the new set will be the last picture you looked at in your previous session. 
Select it, return to the previous broader filters, and proceed to screen until 
your eyes cross from fatigue.

stan

On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:52 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Create a collection and put in it all those you've initially selected. 
 
 Award each photo one star. 
 
 Put a filter on the collection so that it shows just those photos which have 
 one star. 
 
 As you review each picture either remove the star, or give it another star. 
 
 When you've completed the first round, change the filter to 2 stars. 
 
 Repeat until you have the right number of photos, or run out of stars.
 
 B
 
 On 22 Aug 2013, at 06:03, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have order of 
 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those that we will 
 print in her celebrational album.
 
 Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look at. 
 But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as to mark 
 a photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color flags or 
 other things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it without 
 spoiling the set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.
 
 The LR in question is 4.4.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Boris
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Yet another LightRoom question (YaLRQ :-) )

2013-08-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Galia's approaching the age of 12 also known as bat mitzvah. I have 
order of 10k pictures of her that I have to look at and choose those 
that we will print in her celebrational album.


Now, I have my filter that readily produces me these 10k photos to look 
at. But is there a way in which I can put a bookmark of some sort so as 
to mark a photo at which I stopped last time? Of course I can use color 
flags or other things. But I need it so that I can easily return to it 
without spoiling the set of photos that is being shown to me via the filter.


The LR in question is 4.4.

Thanks in advance.

Boris

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-17 Thread lrc
By using jeff friedels  lightroom tree exporter.
It works wonderfully.

Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Guys,

Say, I have a folder structure where I store my photos. Now I want to 
bulk export, but I want to preserve the structure like so:

1. I give LR a destination folder.
2. I will automatically create a sub-folder for each leave folder in my

folder tree and export there the pictures accordingly.

How is that accomplished?

Boris

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Boris,

Here's the easiest way to achieve what you want without use of any
other software:

Note: I assume that by Export you mean output and process to a
finished set with all adjustments embedded, and retain the file
system structure.

- Put all the files that you want to export from wherever in your
catalog they might be into a Collection.

- Choose Export as Catalog from the File menu, give the export
catalog a name, and choose to export previews and negative files.

This will create a catalog folder inside of which Lightroom will place
the catalog file (.LRCAT), previews (.LRDATA), and a folder hierarchy
matching the original one that your files were stored in.

- Quit Lightroom and reopen it using the newly created catalog file.

- Click All Photographs in the Library module's Catalog panel, then
select all.

- Choose Export from the File menu.

In Export Location choose Export to: Same folder as original
photo; I also check the Add to This Catalog option. Set any other
export parameters per your desires. Click Export.

When done, a complete set of finished exports now exists in the
duplicated directory structure, and the originals you exported from
are selected in the Lightroom catalog. Press the Delete key and choose
the option to put the originals in the Trash.

- Quit Lightroom, open the catalog directory and put the .LRCAT and
.LRDATA items into the trash. Empty the trash.

(I know Windows likely uses a different term for trash, but I
presume that is obvious... ;-)

Now you have a folder containing a duplicated directory tree of
exported files that matches the original files' directory tree.

G


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,

 Say, I have a folder structure where I store my photos. Now I want to bulk
 export, but I want to preserve the structure like so:

 1. I give LR a destination folder.
 2. I will automatically create a sub-folder for each leave folder in my
 folder tree and export there the pictures accordingly.

 How is that accomplished?

 Boris

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Couple of notes:

- if you have a bunch of Virtual Copies in your originals set,
you'll create exports for all of them and the originals too using this
method exactly as stated. There are several ways to eliminate this
side effect, but I'll leave them as an exercise for the reader. ;-)

- you don't have to tell the export function to add the exports back
to the catalog. I do that for proofing. If you don't, all you have to
do to eliminate the masters is delete them to the trash, quit, and
delete the catalog and previews files. The exports will be left
behind.

G


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Boris,

 Here's the easiest way to achieve what you want without use of any
 other software:

 Note: I assume that by Export you mean output and process to a
 finished set with all adjustments embedded, and retain the file
 system structure.

 - Put all the files that you want to export from wherever in your
 catalog they might be into a Collection.

 - Choose Export as Catalog from the File menu, give the export
 catalog a name, and choose to export previews and negative files.

 This will create a catalog folder inside of which Lightroom will place
 the catalog file (.LRCAT), previews (.LRDATA), and a folder hierarchy
 matching the original one that your files were stored in.

 - Quit Lightroom and reopen it using the newly created catalog file.

 - Click All Photographs in the Library module's Catalog panel, then
 select all.

 - Choose Export from the File menu.

 In Export Location choose Export to: Same folder as original
 photo; I also check the Add to This Catalog option. Set any other
 export parameters per your desires. Click Export.

 When done, a complete set of finished exports now exists in the
 duplicated directory structure, and the originals you exported from
 are selected in the Lightroom catalog. Press the Delete key and choose
 the option to put the originals in the Trash.

 - Quit Lightroom, open the catalog directory and put the .LRCAT and
 .LRDATA items into the trash. Empty the trash.

 (I know Windows likely uses a different term for trash, but I
 presume that is obvious... ;-)

 Now you have a folder containing a duplicated directory tree of
 exported files that matches the original files' directory tree.

 G


 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,

 Say, I have a folder structure where I store my photos. Now I want to bulk
 export, but I want to preserve the structure like so:

 1. I give LR a destination folder.
 2. I will automatically create a sub-folder for each leave folder in my
 folder tree and export there the pictures accordingly.

 How is that accomplished?

 Boris

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



 --
 Godfrey
   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com



-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Boris,
 
 Here's the easiest way to achieve what you want without use of any
 other software:
 
 Note: I assume that by Export you mean output and process to a
 finished set with all adjustments embedded, and retain the file
 system structure.
 
 - Put all the files that you want to export from wherever in your
 catalog they might be into a Collection.
 
 - Choose Export as Catalog from the File menu, give the export
 catalog a name, and choose to export previews and negative files.
 
 This will create a catalog folder inside of which Lightroom will place
 the catalog file (.LRCAT), previews (.LRDATA), and a folder hierarchy
 matching the original one that your files were stored in.
 
 - Quit Lightroom and reopen it using the newly created catalog file.
 
 - Click All Photographs in the Library module's Catalog panel, then
 select all.
 
 - Choose Export from the File menu.
 
 In Export Location choose Export to: Same folder as original
 photo; I also check the Add to This Catalog option. Set any other
 export parameters per your desires. Click Export.
 
 When done, a complete set of finished exports now exists in the
 duplicated directory structure, and the originals you exported from
 are selected in the Lightroom catalog. Press the Delete key and choose
 the option to put the originals in the Trash.
 
 - Quit Lightroom, open the catalog directory and put the .LRCAT and
 .LRDATA items into the trash. Empty the trash.
 
 (I know Windows likely uses a different term for trash, but I
 presume that is obvious... ;-)
 
 Now you have a folder containing a duplicated directory tree of
 exported files that matches the original files' directory tree.

Or  you could download this plugin, pay Jeff a dollar or two, select all 
the photos you want to export and have it write them out to disk in the same 
directory/folder hierarchy that is on your harddrive:
http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/folder-publisher



--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Boris,

 Here's the easiest way to achieve what you want without use of any
 other software:

 Note: I assume that by Export you mean output and process to a
 finished set with all adjustments embedded, and retain the file
 system structure.

 - Put all the files that you want to export from wherever in your
 catalog they might be into a Collection.

 - Choose Export as Catalog from the File menu, give the export
 catalog a name, and choose to export previews and negative files.

 This will create a catalog folder inside of which Lightroom will place
 the catalog file (.LRCAT), previews (.LRDATA), and a folder hierarchy
 matching the original one that your files were stored in.

 - Quit Lightroom and reopen it using the newly created catalog file.

 - Click All Photographs in the Library module's Catalog panel, then
 select all.

 - Choose Export from the File menu.

 In Export Location choose Export to: Same folder as original
 photo; I also check the Add to This Catalog option. Set any other
 export parameters per your desires. Click Export.

 When done, a complete set of finished exports now exists in the
 duplicated directory structure, and the originals you exported from
 are selected in the Lightroom catalog. Press the Delete key and choose
 the option to put the originals in the Trash.

 - Quit Lightroom, open the catalog directory and put the .LRCAT and
 .LRDATA items into the trash. Empty the trash.

 (I know Windows likely uses a different term for trash, but I
 presume that is obvious... ;-)

 Now you have a folder containing a duplicated directory tree of
 exported files that matches the original files' directory tree.

 Or  you could download this plugin, pay Jeff a dollar or two, select all 
 the photos you want to export and have it write them out to disk in the same 
 directory/folder hierarchy that is on your harddrive:
 http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/folder-publisher

I don't like using plug-ins when I don't have to. There are almost
always, some compatibility issues at major upgrade time. And you have
to keep up on any updates just in case.

That said, some of Jeff's plug-ins have been very useful in the past.
But over time I've found I no longer need any of them.

-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-16 Thread Boris Liberman

Guys,

Say, I have a folder structure where I store my photos. Now I want to 
bulk export, but I want to preserve the structure like so:


1. I give LR a destination folder.
2. I will automatically create a sub-folder for each leave folder in my 
folder tree and export there the pictures accordingly.


How is that accomplished?

Boris

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: YELQ - yet another lightroom question

2013-02-16 Thread Jostein Øksne

Boris, you may want to have a look at this:
http://www.photographers-toolbox.com/products/lrtreeexporter.php

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:52 AM
Subject: YELQ - yet another lightroom question



Guys,

Say, I have a folder structure where I store my photos. Now I want to bulk 
export, but I want to preserve the structure like so:


1. I give LR a destination folder.
2. I will automatically create a sub-folder for each leave folder in my 
folder tree and export there the pictures accordingly.


How is that accomplished?

Boris

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.





--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


lightroom question, migrating publish services

2012-03-07 Thread Larry Colen
I've been making use of the lightroom publish services in my working catalog.
I've got all sorts of handy ones set up for different resolutions, topics etc, 
which makes it easy for me to upload files, and then find the publish 
collection later.
I'd like to copy these from my working catalog to my archive catalog, so that 
if I update something in the archive catalog, I can publish it and just update 
the file on flickr, rather than uploading a second copy of the pictures.

I haven't seen an easy way to do this.  Actually, I haven't found any way to do 
this.  Has anyone been successful at it?

In a similar vein, I'd like to checkpoint my working catalog as an archival 
backup, duplicate it, and trim out a lot of the older photos so that I have a 
newer, smaller, faster working catalog with a different name  
(120307_working.lrcat rather than 110716_working.lrcat).  I don't want to lose 
my publish services etc. in the process.  I can find backup a catalog, but I 
can't find duplicate catalog with a different name.


--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?

2012-01-08 Thread Larry Colen
I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on auto 
focus or manual focus.
Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that?
I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus 
how often the camera does.

I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in 
lightroom based on info in the exif.

If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?

2012-01-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's an EXIF token FocusMode that EXIFtool can read, but I
suspect it's somewhat variable as to what cameras support using it and
how it's included in EXIF data. Lightroom does not display it nor
present it as a sorting option, so you'd need to write a script with
EXIFtool to determine if a file had it, interpret the data associated,
and then generate and insert a keyword.

If you save metadata in LR first, run a script external to LR to do
this on your files, then re-open LR and tell it to read metadata, it
will include the new keywords in the catalog.

G

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on 
 auto focus or manual focus.
 Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that?
 I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus 
 how often the camera does.

 I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in 
 lightroom based on info in the exif.

 If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?

2012-01-08 Thread David Parsons
Jeff Friedl has a metadata viewer tool available as a plug-in, but it
doesn't look to include AF data.  He might update if you ask him, he's
fairly responsive.

http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/metadata-presets

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on 
 auto focus or manual focus.
 Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that?
 I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus 
 how often the camera does.

 I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in 
 lightroom based on info in the exif.

 If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.



-- 
David Parsons Photography
http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com

Aloha Photographer Photoblog
http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In a sense, yes.

However, Bridge does not maintain an editing history or allow
organization of files into collections and groupings independent of
the file system. It simply records IPTC annotations and adds them to
the processing parameter settings that Camera Raw writes into .XMP
sidecar files (if you have Camera Raw configured that way ...).

The .lrcat file is the database file representing a Lightroom catalog
that contains all the information produced or used by Lightroom about
the particular set of files you've imported into it, excepting the
original files themselves and the previews generated for Lightroom to
display. File location, type, time and date, EXIF data, IPTC data, any
processing operations, groupings with other files, slide/print/web
preset associations, etc etc etc, are all in the .lrcat file.

This is a superset of what .XMP sidecar files can contain for each
file, one file at a time. XMP data is limited to static IPTC and image
adjustment parameters written as image metadata.


On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're saying
 the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of images that
 the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge?


 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

 I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of
 having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR
 they're over HERE now.

 Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original
 is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the
 original is, though.

 That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original
 image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the
 Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder
 Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of
 the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and
 just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time.

 I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information
 about
 edits  changes.

 I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ...

 Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file,
 along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file
 location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file.
 That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is.

 It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing
 parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar
 files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with
 JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a
 subset of the full information contained in the database file as it
 does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It
 is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and
 IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format.

 (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable
 it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ...
 it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the
 Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and
 synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera
 Raw.

 Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force
 Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the
 rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing
 several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import
 those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the
 original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it
 can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip
 processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ...
 there's no point to including it.)




 -
 No virus found in this message.
 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
 Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Larry Colen
Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the 
harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put the raw files from 
the weekend onto an external drive.

When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, 
so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've been using lightroom to 
copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just 
photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory 
tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over 
because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups.

I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to 
the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, 
that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with 
other people.  How do I go about this?

I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find 
it.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Larry Colen
A related question:
When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in 
lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just telling 
lightroom where the root of that tree is?

On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the 
 harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put the raw files 
 from the weekend onto an external drive.
 
 When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external 
 drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've been using 
 lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the 
 new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a 
 directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the 
 remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm 
 solving those hiccups.
 
 I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them 
 to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the 
 copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to 
 share with other people.  How do I go about this?
 
 I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to 
 find it.
 
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space
on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put
the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive.

When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3
external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've
been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed
use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some
problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't
just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level
directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups.

I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than
moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell
lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a
convenient place for me to share with other people.  How do I go
about this?

I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or
how to find it.


I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have 
all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom 
catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to.


Whenever you want to share them using lightroom, you use that new catalog.


-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all 
 your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog 
 that points to those files in the location you want it to point to.
 

Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits?

I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some 
other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE 
now.

Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there 
and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though.

 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org
http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago:

http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a
large number of files

G

On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the 
 harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put the raw files 
 from the weekend onto an external drive.

 When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external 
 drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've been using 
 lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the 
 new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a 
 directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the 
 remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm 
 solving those hiccups.

 I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them 
 to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the 
 copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to 
 share with other people.  How do I go about this?

 I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to 
 find it.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.


-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago:
 
 http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a
 large number of files

Thanks.  I wish I had asked first before starting.  Changing halfway through 
would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve.

Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the 
next time I need to do something like this.

 
 G
 
 On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the 
 harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put the raw files 
 from the weekend onto an external drive.
 
 When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external 
 drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've been using 
 lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the 
 new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a 
 directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the 
 remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm 
 solving those hiccups.
 
 I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them 
 to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the 
 copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to 
 share with other people.  How do I go about this?
 
 I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to 
 find it.
 
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
 follow the directions.
 
 
 -- 
 Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
 
 -- 
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


RE: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Bob W
Don't use LR to move it across the network, it's painfully slow. You might
find it simpler to copy the whole structure to the new disk, then use give
the new disk the name that the old one had, so LR doesn't notice the
difference.

B

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Larry Colen
 Sent: 14 July 2011 10:35
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
 
 A related question:
 When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in
 lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just
 telling lightroom where the root of that tree is?
 
 On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
  Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space
 on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files.  So, I put the
 raw files from the weekend onto an external drive.
 
  When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3
 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files.  I've
 been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed
 use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some
 problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't
 just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level
 directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups.
 
  I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than
 moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell
 lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a
 convenient place for me to share with other people.  How do I go about
 this?
 
  I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or
 how to find it.
 
  --
  Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  PDML@pdml.net
  http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
  to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
 and follow the directions.
 
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson

On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote:

I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you
have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new
lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you
want it to point to.


Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits?

I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of
having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR
they're over HERE now.

Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original
is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the
original is, though.


I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information 
about edits  changes.


I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files similar to the way Bridge 
stores the changes from ACR. If I were moving/copying files with Bridge, 
I'd be moving/copying the sidecar files along with the .PEF files, and 
the information about the changes would be there in the new location. I 
don't know why Adobe would reinvent the wheel when they have a system 
for storing information that works. But I don't know.


If lightroom uses a different system, the changes might not be there, 
but I'm sure there must be some way to transfer information about 
changes  edits into the new catalog.


And I'm pretty damn sure make a new catalog is going to be at least 
part of the answer.






-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of
 having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR
 they're over HERE now.

 Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original
 is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the
 original is, though.

That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original
image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the
Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder
Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of
the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and
just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time.

 I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about
 edits  changes.

 I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ...

Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file,
along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file
location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file.
That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is.

It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing
parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar
files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with
JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a
subset of the full information contained in the database file as it
does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It
is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls and
IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format.

(I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable
it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ...
it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the
Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and
synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera
Raw.

Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force
Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the
rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing
several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import
those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the
original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it
can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip
processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ...
there's no point to including it.)

-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago:
 
 http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a
 large number of files
 
 Thanks.  I wish I had asked first before starting.  Changing halfway through 
 would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve.
 
 Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the 
 next time I need to do something like this.


The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I 
can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved.  However for the past several 
hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way 
to the right and saying moving folder.  Running top shows lightroom 
averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show 
system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to 
understand these intuitive user interfaces.

Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. I'm 
afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up.  Meanwhile, I don't 
know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it decides that 
it's done, and can't do anything.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I 
 can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved.  However for the past several 
 hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way 
 to the right and saying moving folder.  Running top shows lightroom 
 averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show 
 system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to 
 understand these intuitive user interfaces.

/Applicationa/Utilities/Activities Monitor.app - It's essentially
taking the output from top and other unix utilities and putting them
into a easily configurable windowed interface.

As I say to our mutual friend and repeat here, If you don't bother to
learn the system and its tools, you spend a lot of time and energy
venting your frustration. It's not a Linux system, a Windows system
or a UNIX system. Don't make assumptions. ;-) For the geeky minded,
there are also a great deal more system and application analysis tools
available when you install the Xcode development tools bundle.

 Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. 
 I'm afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up.  Meanwhile, I 
 don't know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it 
 decides that it's done, and can't do anything.

Since I don't know what you did to move your file repository, I can't
really help your understanding of what LR might be doing.

-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question: moving/copy

2011-07-14 Thread John Sessoms
I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're 
saying the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of 
images that the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge?



From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of
having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR
they're over HERE now.

Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original
is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the
original is, though.

That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original
image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the
Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder
Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of
the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and
just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time.


I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about
edits  changes.

I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ...

Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file,
along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file
location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file.
That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is.

It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing
parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar
files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with
JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a
subset of the full information contained in the database file as it
does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It
is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and
IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format.

(I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable
it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ...
it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the
Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and
synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera
Raw.

Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force
Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the
rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing
several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import
those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the
original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it
can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip
processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ...
there's no point to including it.)





-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


lightroom question, sorting by autofocus

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Colen
I'm going over my photos from the event, and ran across a whole series of shots 
that were perfectly focused,
on the microphone.  I'd love to be able to sort photos on whether they were 
autofocused or manually focused to see if it was me, or the camera, blowing it. 
 Is there a way to do this?  I didn't see it, but could well have missed it.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: lightroom question, sorting by autofocus

2010-12-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom does not include the Focus Mode or any other focusing system
EXIF tokens in the EXIF metadata it displays. Probably the best thing
you can do is to use EXIFtool to extract the focusing specific
information from your image files in a list and then add it to the
image files as keywords.

(I suspect the reason they don't show it is that there are a number of
different EXIF tokens used by different manufacturers for focus
specific aspects of a capture ... it would be a fairly complex mess to
sort it out and present it in a sensible way for all camera makes and
models.)

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I'm going over my photos from the event, and ran across a whole series of 
 shots that were perfectly focused,
 on the microphone.  I'd love to be able to sort photos on whether they were 
 autofocused or manually focused to see if it was me, or the camera, blowing 
 it.  Is there a way to do this?  I didn't see it, but could well have missed 
 it.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
 the directions.




-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and 
apply a filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on 
one of them.


Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder 
where this photo is, without any filter applied?


Thanks.

Boris

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman

Subject: Simple LightRoom Question



Hi!

Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and apply 
a filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of 
them.


Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder where 
this photo is, without any filter applied?





I believe in the develop module, just click reset.
When you want to reapply the filter, synchronize that file with one that has 
the filter applied.
Or, and I just tried this and it works: make a virtual copy and reset it. 
This leaves the original alone.


William Robb 



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and apply a
 filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of
 them.

 Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder where
 this photo is, without any filter applied?

Not sure I understand the question. Let me restate to try to make it clear.

Assuming you are in the Library module with 2009 chosen in the
Folders panel, the top of your 2009 image file hierarchy. You use the
Filter bar in Grid mode to select a subset of the image files in the
Grid view. You click on one of the images that meets all the filter
criteria, now you want to change your choice of images to display to
the ones contained in the folder that contains that image as well as
disable all filtering so you can see everything in that particular
folder.

Very easy:

- Right-Click (control-click on Mac OS X) on the image file and choose
the Show in Folder in Library command.

- If there are filters selected in the Filter bar (LR might remember
the last filter you used in that folder, if you ever did), click the
None switch in the Filter bar.

-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Subject: Re: Simple LightRoom Question



On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Say, I've a tree of folders in LR. I point to the topmost folder and 
apply a

filter. A number of photos come out after the filter. I click on one of
them.

Here is the question: what do I do in order to open the whole folder 
where

this photo is, without any filter applied?


Not sure I understand the question. Let me restate to try to make it 
clear.


I know for a fact that I didn't understand it.

William Robb 



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Simple LightRoom Question

2010-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Godfrey, you understood me exactly right... Despite my 
clumsiness again... The None switch was the culprit.


Thanks!

Boris


On 1/15/2010 5:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Assuming you are in the Library module with 2009 chosen in the
Folders panel, the top of your 2009 image file hierarchy. You use the
Filter bar in Grid mode to select a subset of the image files in the
Grid view. You click on one of the images that meets all the filter
criteria, now you want to change your choice of images to display to
the ones contained in the folder that contains that image as well as
disable all filtering so you can see everything in that particular
folder.

Very easy:

- Right-Click (control-click on Mac OS X) on the image file and choose
the Show in Folder in Library command.

- If there are filters selected in the Filter bar (LR might remember
the last filter you used in that folder, if you ever did), click the
None switch in the Filter bar.




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks

2009-12-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall
that if you pick a range, with the most selected file at the head,
and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the
relative amount that implies.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance
 contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other.

 Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5
 minutes,
 so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right.  I
 don't
 think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer  resnick book, but is
 there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture
 time
 of all of these by 5 minutes?

 In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do
 exactly what you want.


 Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather
 than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want.

 Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files
 to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files
 in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right.


 There's also an option in the Catalog
 Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into
 proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the
 original RAW files too.

 --
 Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.




-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


  1   2   3   >