Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
This thread is dead and has been for a number of years. To search for current BBCiplayer use something like following on google *site:forums.slimdevices.com bbciplayer 2018* The current support thread fopr BBCiplayer and BBCiplayerExtra is *https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109826-BBCiPlayer-V1-6-(and-higher)-amp-BBCiPlayerExtra-2-0-(and-higher)-Support* *Do not post on this thread as all it does it make it appear high & current on search engines* bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Hi bpa. Just a quick thank you note for fixing Listen Again with 1.6.0. Very much appreciated :) 3 SB 3 Libratone Loop, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
chris.cowap wrote: > Hi > Tried making those minor ammends and unfortunately no change to the > re-buffering issue. > Sometimes it will hang in there. Seems to be worse when first starting a > stream. > Listen again works fine. > Thanks and epic work by the way ! > Chris Are you saying buffering problem only happens with Live streams and not Listen Again. What spec PC are you using ? Processor and memory ? For some W10 systems longer delays are necessary - increase delay (up to 5 min) to see if buffering stops. With delays too small - The W10 problems ALWAYS happens with Live streams - if it only happens occassionally - it indicates possibly another issue. If you are getting rebuffering when stream has been playing for a few minutes - then something else may also be happening. Any BBCiPlayer message in the server log file ? What security s/w are you using ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Hi Tried making those minor ammends and unfortunately no change to the re-buffering issue. Sometimes it will hang in there. Seems to be worse when first starting a stream. Listen again works fine. Thanks and epic work by the way ! Chris chris.cowap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
chris.cowap wrote: > Hi > Since a change onto a windows 10 machine, by Booms are having drop outs. > Never had this issue on Vista (Yep I know... dont judge me LOL) And > that was possibly using < v1,6 > It just cant keep the buffer full. > I can stream at high bit rates without any issue using Spotify, or > Soundcloud, and the regualar 128bit stream from the BBC works fine too. > My Touch doesnt seem to have an issue - presumably as no transcoding is > needed? > So i am suspecting its an issue with the transcosing from the DASH > stream to whatever the Boom needs to see. > Grater than 80% signal strength. No issues with the wifi. > Any ideas ? > Thanks > Chris There is some internal process scheduling change with Win 10 and possibly 8 (i.e. not with Vista or 7). The result of this change affects "Live" streams only when transcoding. 1.5.*->1.6.0 is a BBC URL change - no code change. Do you have this problem with Listen Again ? If not then change the BBCiPlayer plugin settings "Seconds to delay start live stream" to 1 min. If buffering goes away - try reducing until you get an unstable system. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Rats, we lost the 30 days listen again. Back to 7 days which is so short as to be of little value to me, which is why I didn't notice when listen again was broken recently. iPlayerExtras here I come again. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > On quick inspection I understand most of the suggestion and they seem > OK. I need to test the ip3k episode duration one to see what is being > fixed. Quite an old one that I seem to have had lying around. Play an aod stream on Jive, take the context menu|more info. Observe presence/absence, of the stream Duration between "File format" and "Bitrate". Not a show stopper, just something I noticed, for some reason ! mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
mrw wrote: > As discussed. Generated with git format-patch. On quick inspection I understand most of the suggestion and they seem OK. I need to test the ip3k episode duration one to see what is being fixed. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
As discussed. Generated with git format-patch. +---+ |Filename: BBCiPlayer_patches.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25694| +---+ mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
mrw wrote: > I have a few (6 or 7) presentational changes that I make/have made to my > local installation. > > I think some may be of wider interest, others are simply personal > preference. > > Do you have any interest ? > > If so, I could post a patch set (against V1.6.0), or perhaps push onto > GitHub, for you to consider and take up, or not, as you think fit. Sure post the patch set. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > A V1.6.1 will be the excuse for a new BBCiPlayer thread. I have a few (6 or 7) presentational changes that I make/have made to my local installation. I think some may be of wider interest, others are simply personal preference. Do you have any interest ? If so, I could post a patch set (against V1.6.0), or perhaps push onto GitHub, for you to consider and take up, or not, as you think fit. mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Thanks for the quick update. > > I just played R4 FM "Today" from yesterday morning and paused it during > the intro ... at which point the title changed to > "Today: 17/09/2018 - 25621026 mins delay" There was a second report of this issue and I've managed to reproduce it thanks to your description of the pause. Now to fix it. A V1.6.1 will be the excuse for a new BBCiPlayer thread. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > I had hoped the 30 day feed would remain - then I would only have to > maintain one plugin. So, the BBC DO read this forum then ... Raymond Woodward's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > I had hoped the 30 day feed would remain - then I would only have to > maintain one plugin. Indeed. A few days ago it crossed my mind to remove the extra plugin, but I decided not to, for now. Just as well. LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > The iplayer on the web is even more than 30 days for some stuff, and, as > expected given how it works, BBCiPlayerExtra is giving me the same. I had hoped the 30 day feed would remain - then I would only have to maintain one plugin. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > iplayer & apps always has been 30 day - longer than 7day feed - I think > BBC always wnated the BBC own stuff to have an "edge" (the apps use > Nitro API) > > The BBCiPlayerExtra uses the same feeds as the iplayer for programmes by > name and I had a screen scraping workaround for schedules - not pretty. The iplayer on the web is even more than 30 days for some stuff, and, as expected given how it works, BBCiPlayerExtra is giving me the same. LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
On a positive note, it's good to see that somebody at the BBC is keeping the documentation up to date, it was updated a couple of days ago (even if it was after the event) : https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=111sRKv1WO78E9Mf2Km91JNCzfbmfU0QApsZyvnRYFmU expectingtofly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > Thanks (but I'm unlikely to remember how to do that check!). > > The iplayer in a browser still goes a lot further back on Radios 3 and 4 > (and probably others). iplayer & apps always has been 30 day - longer than 7day feed - I think BBC always wnated the BBC own stuff to have an "edge" (the apps use Nitro API) The BBCiPlayerExtra uses the same feeds as the iplayer for programmes by name and I had a screen scraping workaround for schedules - not pretty. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > No - just use the feed URL(below) in a browser - Chrome / Firefox do a > good job of formatting XML > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc_radio_fourfm.xml > > Similar for JSON - a feed used in Extra is > https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a-z/by/x/player.json > > Browsers are very versatile for debugging and simple sanity checks. Thanks (but I'm unlikely to remember how to do that check!). The iplayer in a browser still goes a lot further back on Radios 3 and 4 (and probably others). LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Yes - back to 7 > > Code: > > > > That's a shame. Perhaps 30 days doesn't suit a Reciva... mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > As a matter of idle interest, is that from the system log with a > non-standard log setting for the iplayer? No - just use the feed URL(below) in a browser - Chrome / Firefox do a good job of formatting XML http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc_radio_fourfm.xml bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
No - that was from going directly to the BBC URL with a web browser. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Yes - back to 7 > > Code: > > > > As a matter of idle interest, is that from the system log with a non-standard log setting for the iplayer? LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Yes - back to 7 Code: Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Can UK users please confirm, for me - non-UK the feed has reverted back > to 7 days - nolonger 30 days. > > First line of data feed > > Code: > > > > > > > > I can't see any other change or anyhting else that may have broken > with this latest change. I just checked. I have previously set up the 30 day menu, and checked it worked. Now it only shows 7 days (of dates), and for each programme only the last 7 days' episodes. I haven't looked at logs and such. I will if you wish. LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Can UK users please confirm, for me - non-UK the feed has reverted back to 7 days - nolonger 30 days. First line of data feed Code: I can't see any other change or anyhting else that may have broken with this latest change. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > I think that Reciva might have implemented HLS - but the majority of the > installed base would not have been able to install the firmware. > It might have been for Grace Digital. > Should get a better idea on Monday if the On Demand programmes reappear > on some/all/none of radios using their firmware. I think HLS is likely as it is not that hard to implement and there are a number of broadcast streams as well. What puzzle me is the Touch/Radio BBCiPlayer Applet plays programs and it doesn't have HLS or DASH only Flash/AAC which I somehow thought BBC had removed. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I think that Reciva might have implemented HLS - but the majority of the installed base would not have been able to install the firmware. It might have been for Grace Digital. Should get a better idea on Monday if the On Demand programmes reappear on some/all/none of radios using their firmware. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Looks like Reciva (nowadays part of Qualcomm) is still using it - a > recent post from them I know a couple of the Reciva guys in Cambridge who work for Qualcomm. I said something about Dash a year or two ago (I forget when) and he was very surprised to hear that LMS iPlayer plugin supported it. He quizzed me about the technical details which I know nothing about, I just told him it's all open source so go and look at it if you can read perl and emailed a link to the announce thread on here. I have no idea if they ever had a look or did any Dash work. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > I just said Internet radio Appliances such as Roberts radios do not use > it - not that is hardly used. I believe small number of custom UK home > audio vendors have a significant number of customers. Looks like Reciva (nowadays part of Qualcomm) is still using it - a recent post from them "Hi all, Thank you very much for posting about this, we have made a few changes to our server-side software and are planning on pushing it live on Monday. All the best and many apologies for the outage, ---David " Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > What would be do without bpa and a handful of others giving loads of > their their time for free? On the rare occasions I want to record Classic FM rather than listen to it live I record my DAB tuner or the MP3 internet feed to my S-VHS VCR. All of Classic FM's listen again feeds have dreadful audio quality as does their Freeview channel so I can't just use my PVR. I don't use their FM feed as it has poor reception in this area. I imagine without the help of these wonderful people I would be back to similar techniques for BBC Radio. I still have my FM tuner, and my S-VHS VCR has a perfectly functioning timed recording feature. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
What would be do without bpa and a handful of others giving loads of their their time for free? LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > It's great that mrw did the detective work and unlike me didn't get > sucked into debate - lesson learnt. In another life I spent some time in a dual 'front line support' and 'back office fixer' role. Achieving a productive balance was hard, and I never really learned to get it right. "I can't take your call right now because I'm trying to fix your problem" worked sometimes. Difficult to do on an Internet forum ! mrw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38299 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Whereas I assume you watch the existing iPlayer threads (possibly with > email notifications) but won't necessarily see new threads, so a problem > is more likely to get attention if it is posted here. New threads can > disappear in a mass of other new threads. I scan nearly every likley thread that starts (titles can be misleading) - for instacne there is a Tidal thread where someone suggest the BBC feed problem was the same cause as the Tidal ones. However on a busy thread I often miss individual posts especially on a support thread where 2-3 problems are being resolved simultaneously which can be the situation/reason a user will create a new thread. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Which leads me back to why change it at all if it is hardly used? I'd > have thought the BBC were hoping it would die quietly due to lack of > use. I just said Internet radio Appliances such as Roberts radios do not use it - not that is hardly used. I believe small number of custom UK home audio vendors have a significant number of customers. That said BBC planned Nitro API to take over the feed and that seemed not gone to plan - so they may be buying time and holding onto these "customer" rather than let them drift away. BBC may be looking around for other potential sources of revenue. I presume with the "login" process they are trying to provide a personalised service. DASH stream (TV & Radio) makes it much easier to insert ads so so there may be ways to get revenue from non UK and other classes of user of the feed since the subscription experiment a few years ago failed. All speculation and assumes there is a strategy behind the changes but one that we can't divine. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > AFAIK Not many internet radio appliances use "Listen Again" feed - > possibly used by custom home audio system. Which leads me back to why change it at all if it is hardly used? I'd have thought the BBC were hoping it would die quietly due to lack of use. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > This thread was started as I was testing in a new version not supporting > an old version and I only wanted eager users to test. > > New threads are often started becuase many users feel their problem > won't get attention in a long support thread - unfortunately new threads > don't always have good titles. Whereas I assume you watch the existing iPlayer threads (possibly with email notifications) but won't necessarily see new threads, so a problem is more likely to get attention if it is posted here. New threads can disappear in a mass of other new threads. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Oh and why did people start new threads? It's a iPlayer plugin problem, > surely the right place to post it is in the existing iPlayer support > threads? I didn't see this because I look for new threads about once a > year.Which of the many iPlayer threads should they have posted in? Having a new thread for this one issue which affects everyone using IPlayer prevents it getting lost in an already long thread. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > I wonder how many hardware internet radios have had their listen again > broken by this change? I suspect all of them? In which case why are the > manufacturers not frothing at the mouth? Or are there no hardware > internet radios doing listen again, in which case why did the BBC change > this at all? Or was there a way they plugin code could have been written > that would work with both old and new BBC feeds? I'm just confused how > this hasn't broken everything else that uses the feed. BBC maintain discussions with vendors (e.g Systemline) I suspect there is a vendors technical mailing list/discussion groups with advice on upcoming changes. For example, the BBC provide an up to date list of live stream URL here http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/imda_transports.xml BBC could have included info in the HTTP headers or XML body but nobody was looking. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Oh and why did people start new threads? It's a iPlayer plugin problem, > surely the right place to post it is in the existing iPlayer support > threads? I didn't see this because I look for new threads about once a > year. This thread was started as I was testing in a new version not supporting an old version and I only wanted eager users to test. New threads are often started becuase many users feel their problem won't get attention in a long support thread - unfortunately new threads don't always have good titles. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Oh and why did people start new threads? It's a iPlayer plugin problem, surely the right place to post it is in the existing iPlayer support threads? I didn't see this because I look for new threads about once a year. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I wonder how many hardware internet radios have had their listen again broken by this change? I suspect all of them? In which case why are the manufacturers not frothing at the mouth? Or are there no hardware internet radios doing listen again, in which case why did the BBC change this at all? Or was there a way they plugin code could have been written that would work with both old and new BBC feeds? I'm just confused how this hasn't broken everything else that uses the feed. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Man in a van wrote: > I'll be putting a box of large Swan Vesta on a well known auction site > next week:p (sigh:rolleyes:) > > I still have a use for the pitchfork :) I was away/offline for two days when the problem happened and I was surprised by a long 404 thread and how much feeling there was about the issue and how many posters wanted to post/vent somewhere. It highlighted how many forums users normally just read and wait for others to notify and resolve problems. But this time, without visible progress - they wanted to be heard. I ended up spending time writing posts trying to explain & dissuade the few from sending letters etc (which would have been misplaced as BBC did no great wrong) rather than looking at the problem. It's great that mrw did the detective work and unlike me didn't get sucked into debate - lesson learnt. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > No they were UK locals - they were talking of letters to OFCOM > demanding public rights to APIs and perhaps using FOI to find details of > contracts between BBC and vendors. I'll be putting a large box of Swan Vesta on a well known auction site next week:p (sigh:rolleyes:) I still have a use for the pitchfork :) Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > From Ireland? It's a long way, and the torches will go out crossing the > Irish Sea. No they were UK locals - they were talking of letters to OFCOM demanding public rights to APIs and perhaps using FOI to find details of contracts between BBC and vendors. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > In BBCiPlayer Settings. Change the last part of URL in the "URL for > menu.opml replacement" from "default-menu.opml" to either > "default-15day-menu.opml" or "default-30day-menu.opml" and then click > the "Load Menu from this URL" button. Sorry there is no feedback on the > click. If you re-enter the Radio/BBCiPlayer menu from Home - the new > opml will take effect. LMS caches menu generation so if you do 2 changes > in quick succession, a LMS restart may be necessary to clear cache I followed this and 30 day listen again is working for me now, thankyou. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > You missed out a lot - nearly had a mob with pitchforks and torches > ready to march on BBC. >From Ireland? It's a long way, and the torches will go out crossing the Irish Sea. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > I hadn't noticed anything was broken with the previous version, but it's > been a few days since I used listen again. I thought 1.6.0 was to > support a new feature but the old one was still working. You missed out a lot - nearly had a mob with pitchforks and torches ready to march on BBC. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > 1. Priority was to get a updated version of plugin providing the same > functionality out asap. I hadn't noticed anything was broken with the previous version, but it's been a few days since I used listen again. I thought 1.6.0 was to support a new feature but the old one was still working. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Raymond Woodward wrote: > That works fine here, but I don't seem to be able to save the change in > LMS (should I be able to, or do I have to enter the change manually > every time I want the default menu option of my choice)? The plugin has a single menu.opml file. The menu.opml is overwritten by the "load menu layout.." button so that the "new menu layout" is used until plugin is re-installed or overwritten. Toggling between two menus will result in confusion as LMS caching will make it seem change has not taken place so user will have to restart LMS to clear cache. If you want some other customisation (e.g. have two menus for same staton 7day and 30 day or a 30 day submenu with all stations set up for 30day ) - just edit the menu.opml file. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Raymond Woodward wrote: > That works fine here, but I don't seem to be able to save the change in > LMS (should I be able to, or do I have to enter the change manually > every time I want the default menu option of my choice)? > > Not a big deal, just a minor irritant. > > -- > > Ray WoodwardI think it is saved but the URL displayed is always default to > allow switching back easily if necessary. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > 1. > In BBCiPlayer Settings. Change the last part of URL in the "URL for > menu.opml replacement" from "default-menu.opml" to either > "default-15day-menu.opml" or "default-30day-menu.opml" and then click > the "Load Menu from this URL" button. Sorry there is no feedback on the > click. If you re-enter the Radio/BBCiPlayer menu from Home - the new > opml will take effect. LMS caches menu generation so if you do 2 changes > in quick succession, a LMS restart may be necessary to clear cache That works fine here, but I don't seem to be able to save the change in LMS (should I be able to, or do I have to enter the cange manually every time I want the default menu option of my choice)? Not a big deal, just a minor irritant. -- Ray Woodward Raymond Woodward's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > > Were you playing R4 yesterday and "power off player" with the setting > "Stop on power off" or "pause on Power off" In Settings/Player/Audio it is set to "Pause at power off / Resume at power on". Note - I didn't use the power button. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Thanks for the quick update. > > I just played R4 FM "Today" from yesterday morning and paused it during > the intro ... at which point the title changed to > "Today: 17/09/2018 - 25621026 mins delay" That is a BBCiPlayer minor bug side effect of the pause. I thought I had it fixed. Won;t be able to get to it for a while - too much time spent on BBC already. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Thanks for the quick update. I just played R4 FM "Today" from yesterday morning and paused it during the intro ... at which point the title changed to "Today: 17/09/2018 - 25621026 mins delay" Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Don't think that is feasible - off the top of my head. > 1. Through setting - opml files can come from anywhere - local files or > any network storage. > 2. If you restrict to say sourceforge then plugin would have to do a lot > of work to get a list of file from sourceforge (most file stores don't > support file search type facility) > 3. An alternate file storage area means maintenance of network storage. OK. I thought you might be able to list just the ones you have developed (not by search, just hard-coded), but no matter. LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > If all goes well with this version, longer term a drop-down list of > menus available, indicating which is currently selected, would be handy. Don't think that is feasible - off the top of my head. 1. Through setting - opml files can come from anywhere - local files or any network storage. 2. If you restrict to say sourceforge then plugin would have to do a lot of work to get a list of file from sourceforge (most file stores don't support file search type facility) 3. An alternate file storage area means maintenance of network storage. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Yes - the intent was to make it easy to revert back to shipped state. > If there is an error reading the a new URL - I think it is logged but no > error is flashed on WebUI (IIRC I tried but didn't persue) . If all goes well with this version, longer term a drop-down list of menus available, indicating which is currently selected, would be handy. LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > That works - thanks. > > By 'no feedback' do you mean that the URL shown on screen remains > unchanged, even though I can now see 30 days-worth of programmes? Yes - the intent was to make it easy to revert back to shipped state. If there is an error reading the a new URL - I think it is logged but no error is flashed on WebUI (IIRC I tried but didn't persue) . bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > 1. Priority was to get a updated version of plugin providing the same > functionality out asap. Consideration had to be taken that users would > be upgrading from different plugin versions and so had slight difference > in preference files. > 2. To add a setting requires not only change to in main code body but > also adding code to Settings.pm, Settings html and adding migration code > to handle older preference files. This is then followed by having to > test all new code. All taking time and probably more support time. > 3. Feedback after some use of 1.6.0 will help determine the right level > of customation rather than guessing and making a rush job which will > only need work to redo later. > > In the mean time - you can test 15 day and 30 day option from settings > by changing opml file as I have uploaded to 2 more menu opml file > variants. > > In BBCiPlayer Settings. Change the last part of URL in the "URL for > menu.opml replacement" from "default-menu.opml" to either > "default-15day-menu.opml" or "default-30day-menu.opml" and then click > the "Load Menu from this URL" button. Sorry there is no feedback on the > click. If you re-enter the Radio/BBCiPlayer menu from Home - the new > opml will take effect. LMS caches menu generation so if you do 2 changes > in quick succession, a LMS restart may be necessary to clear cache That works - thanks. By 'no feedback' do you mean that the URL shown on screen remains unchanged, even though I can now see 30 days-worth of programmes? LMS 7.9.2 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 18.04, FLACs 16->24 bit, 44.1->192kbps. 2 Touchs & EDO. LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (A308CR amp & ESLs) & Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Also Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 18.04 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > I'm running iPlayer v1.6.0 on LMS 7.8.0. But I still see only the last 7 > days dates listed in listen again for Radio 2 and Radio 3, I was > expecting 30 days now. Do I have to turn something on? > > EDIT: I've just checked the iPlayer plugin settings and there is nothing > different from the v1.5.4 I was on previously. > > EDIT2: I re-read your original post. Last time I stopped reading at the > point it started talking about editing menu.opml since I have no desire > to start fiddling with the innards of the plugin. I now see there is a > setting in there to enable 30 days. If that is the only way to get 30 > days out of the plugin then I won't be using the feature. If it is > configurable at all I would expect to find it in the plugin settings. 1. Priority was to get a updated version of plugin providing the same functionality out asap. Consideration had to be taken that users would be upgrading from different plugin versions and so had slight difference in preference files. 2. To add a setting requires not only change to in main code body but also adding code to Settings.pm, Settings html and adding migration code to handle older preference files. This is then followed by having to test all new code. All taking time and probably more support time. 3. Feedback after some use of 1.6.0 will help determine the right level of customation rather than guessing and making a rush job which will only need work to redo later. In the mean time - you can test 15 day and 30 day option from settings by changing opml file as I have uploaded to 2 more menu opml file variants. In BBCiPlayer Settings. Change the last part of URL in the "URL for menu.opml replacement" from "default-menu.opml" to either "default-15day-menu.opml" or "default-30day-menu.opml" and then click the "Load Menu from this URL" button. Sorry there is no feedback on the click. If you re-enter the Radio/BBCiPlayer menu from Home - the new opml will take effect. LMS caches menu generation so if you do 2 changes in quick succession, a LMS restart may be necessary to clear cache bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I'm running iPlayer v1.6.0 on LMS 7.8.0. But I still see only the last 7 days dates listed in listen again for Radio 2 and Radio 3, I was expecting 30 days now. Do I have to turn something on? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
My backup is an FM tuner for live radio, and a Freeview PVR for listen again. Falls down a bit due to having to plan in advance, but it means things I regularly use listen again for I just set to record on Freeview as well. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I just take one day at a time and don't worry what the BBC might do and just look to have backup. I had hoped Echo spot with BBC on podcast would be the solution but the BBC skills are not available in Ireland ! so still looking for a backup that is not a tablet or phone with BBC iplayer Radio app. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
BBC Apps and web site originally only went back 7 days so the external feed matched. Then everything else got upgraded to 30 days and the external feed we use got left as it was. I don't believe it was any more complicated than that, apart from possible complications that third party(ies) seem to be involved in maintaining the external feed and may not have wanted to do any work to upgrade it. There may also have been concerns that some third party equipment couldn't handle 30 days of data on the external feed, maybe enough new hardware is out there now that this is no longer a concern? Personally I suspect some of the third party hardware manufacturers that use the external feed pushed for this. They probably didn't like that BBC Apps and web site could do 30 days and their internet radio hardware players could not. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Does iPlayerExtras serve any purpose now that the main schedule supports > 30 days? The categories were already greatly reduced compared to the > past. > > I'm pleased by this change, it makes it seem less like the BBC are > abandoning third parties. After the Nitro damp squid I wondered how much > of a future we had. > > And thanks for updating the plugin to match! BBC strategy is not clear and we have to play it by ear. I think BBC's 2-3yr plans have been subverted by popular expectation of internet. The feeds Extra used were cut down severely a few years ago and BBC said it would be discontinued as it was difficult to maintain. The "Latest" stuff is a hack. Nitro is used by phone/tablet apps but I think T for acceptable use by 3rd parties are hard to make and police as API has the potential to overwhelm BBC servers. BBC used to object to user downloading programs - yet they are now advocating it with downloadable Podcasts of many programs not just a select few. The original feed had only 7 days - I think BBC imposed this at the time perhaps to give their won web and apps an "edge" or perhaps they had copyright issues. Surprisingly, the feed EXtra uses still has more program than the BBC iPlayer feed mainly from the international services such as Nepal, Afrique etc. Also Extra can go back further than 30 days. So I think it is mostly redundant but it requires no effort to maintain. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Does iPlayerExtras serve any purpose now that the main schedule supports 30 days? The categories were already greatly reduced compared to the past. I'm pleased by this change, it makes it seem less like the BBC are abandoning third parties. After the Nitro damp squid I wondered how much of a future we had. And thanks for updating the plugin to match! Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I have uploaded an updated version of the BBCiPlayer plugin to handle the updated BBC feed. The new version is V1.6.0 is just V1.5.4.5 + fix to recent problem. I have updated the test (V1.5.4.*) and release (V1.5.3) repo URLs to enable user update the plugin easily. For users migrating from 1.5.3 - an additional feature under the "More menu" is a segment index to "Listen Again" programs and the ability to jump to a particular segment. User of older version of 1.4 and 1.5 will have to update their repo URLs to get V1.6.0. Up to this week (17Sep18) only 7 days of programming available. The updated BBC feed has 30 days of programming. Some users may like to have more than 7 days programming even though it can be cluttered if 30 days are shown. A level of customisation has been added to the plugin. The following URL demonstrates menu variants on Radio 4menu. Use the BBCiPlayer plugin settings to replace the default menu and afterwards revert. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/menu-R4variants-demo.opml For the technical user who wish to customise their own menus via the menu.opml file - the keys points are * the options are added at the end of the "parser="Plugins::BBCiPlayer::BBCXMLParser?" as shown below. * the main options are bykey (programs names) and byday (program schedule). Omit "byday" and there will be no schedule of programmes. Omit "bykey" and there will be no list of programme. * There is an option for the maximum number of days to present "filter:maxdays=15" - 15 is an example - max is 30 ,default is 7 * if you have multiple menus for the same station you MUST add "nocache" option. * Options needs to be prefixed by "" * Triode provided additional filter options but I have never tested Example of Schedule 15 days - as "bykey" has been omitted. Code: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc_radio_fourfm.xml; icon="http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_fourfm/600x600.png; parser="Plugins::BBCiPlayer::BBCXMLParser?bydayreversedaysreversefilter:service=fmfilter:maxdays=15nocache" /> bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Was this with 1.5.3 or later ? Yup, just fired her up - 1.5.3 on LMS 7.9.0. JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote: > I did have the same buffering problem on my last server running Win7 > pro. Was this with 1.5.3 or later ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > .. This isn't a VM or similar ? Is the clock on your system set up to > get "network" time ? Thanks. No VM - just vanilla Win10Pro 64bit install with clock synchronised to time.windows.com. I did have the same buffering problem on my last server running Win7 pro. Jonathan. JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote:
> Hi - yes and no..!
> I'd maxed out the '-Seconds to delay start live stream-' with
> HLS>DASH>MP3.. without effect.
> But I'd not tried that when set to DASH>HLS>... and Yes, when set to *3
> mins*, takes 8 seconds to play but then no more buffering! (at 320kbps).
> 2 min and 1 min still buffer.
>
> So I'm pretty happy. It keeps us on our toes when the BBC hour pips
> happen 3 minutes after they should but that's not a biggie.
>
> I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has found a way around this
> with LMS running on Windows 10.
>
> *Thanks again for all your efforts with this plugin bpa* - without being
> able to play BBC feeds, I'd have ditched our SB setup years ago.
>
>
As I said I don't support HLS (I have no Apple stuff to be the reference
player) - it is as Triode left it. Most of the settings in the
BBCiPlayer plugin now only affect DASH such as bitrate and delay.
My theory. For some reason there is a long delay in setting up the
transcoding chain - if there isn't enough data "ready" - it chokes
("rebuffering"). By starting the live stream a bit before "realtime" it
enables a burst of data to be fetched and so kick start the transcoding
chain with no delay.
It is very unusual that you need to keep the setting at 3 mins as that
is a huge amount of data to prefetch. This isn't a VM or similar ? Is
the clock on your system set up to get "network" time ?
To get to the bottom of this problem - I need to get Win10 but I have no
other incentive to do so as it is not my main system.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Did you try increasing "Seconds to delay start live stream" as I advised > ? Hi - yes and no..! I'd maxed out the '-Seconds to delay start live stream-' with HLS>DASH>MP3.. without effect. But I'd not tried that when set to DASH>HLS>... and Yes, when set to *3 mins*, takes 8 seconds to play but then no more buffering! (at 320kbps). 2 min and 1 min still buffer. So I'm pretty happy. It keeps us on our toes when the BBC hour pips happen 3 minutes after they should but that's not a biggie. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has found a way around this with LMS running on Windows 10. *Thanks again for all your efforts with this plugin bpa* - without being able to play BBC feeds, I'd have ditched our SB setup years ago. Jonathan JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > Somehow missed that previous post. > I'll look at log in more detail but as a start - with WIn10 i7 > rebuffering on live DASH stream - common fix is to go large with > "Seconds to delay start live stream" - if the max you tried was 15sec > then it would have no effect - please try at least 1min > Did you try increasing "Seconds to delay start live stream" as I advised ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > 1. Don't play HLS stream on Windows - keep as a "backup" with "DASH > > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC" - IIRC The plugin "live" URLs only have DASH and > HLS now. Thanks. I've got no major desire for high kbps streams so am happy to setup whatever works. I tried switching to DASH> HLS but that seems much worse - I've a attached a logfile of trying to play using the settings in the attached screenshot. Using DASH gave a buffering process of about 3 mins of silence and then played for about 10 seconds before rebuffering again. It was only trying to load at -48kbps CBR, aac, -but sometimes clicking play again gave -339kbps CBR, AAC LC -without my changing any settings bpa wrote: > > 2. If you really want to play HLS streams on Windows install playHLS > whichuses ffmpeg and create favorites - there will be no program info. OK, I can try giving that a go in an attempt to get a working solution. bpa wrote: > 3. Low buffer threshold increase the likelihood of rebuffering - so if > you get rebuffering - increase threshold to max. As per the screenshot, that didn't seem to have much effect, nor did swapping -highest/lowest bitrate DASH stream-. bpa wrote: > I am not sure but I think in Win8 or Win10 MS made a change which > affect LMS transcoding support program socketwrapper.exe. It is most > noticeable on high end multicore system with lots of RAM - it is > possible the syste is too fast for the application which was initially > written for a single core prcoessor and now with multi core system there > is a "race hazard" somewhere in the code . Perhaps that's the problem, but my previous Windows7 server had a 1.66GHz Intel Atom N280 and did seem to have the same problem with iplayer buffering. bpa wrote: > PlayHLS using ffmpeg and the plugin's DASH implementation both use HTTP > 1.1 which means one TCP connection and then multiple chunks sent on same > connection. OK, I'll let you know whether PlayHLS fixes things. Thanks for all the analysis and input! Jonathan +---+ |Filename: iplayer settings.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25247| +---+ JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote: > I think most of the answers to your Q's (and logs) are in 'my post last > week' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test/page53=915437#post915437) Looked at log. 1. Don't play HLS stream on Windows - keep as a "backup" with "DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC" - IIRC The plugin "live" URLs only have DASH and HLS now. 2. If you really want to play HLS streams on Windows install playHLS whichuses ffmpeg and create favorites - there will be no program info. 3. Low buffer threshold increase the likelihood of rebuffering - so if you get rebuffering - increase threshold to max. 4. The " Slim::Utils::OS::Win32::getPriorityClass" error is a LMS error due to changing server priority - IIRC it doesn't work at the moment. and really wouldn't have made a difference unless you are on a low power single core single thread system. 5. Assuming you have a good network link, in the UK and with a high powered LMS server - I think "use highest bitrate DASH stream available" option may result less rebuffering due to nature of Windows specific issue. Only relevant to DASH streams. I am not sure but I think in Win8 or Win10 MS made a change which affect LMS transcoding support program socketwrapper.exe. It is most noticeable on high end multicore system with lots of RAM - it is possible the syste is too fast for the application which was initially written for a single core prcoessor and now with multi core system there is a "race hazard" somewhere in the code . The plugin's HLS implementation uses HTTP 1.0 so each 6sec chunk request requires a separate TCP connection each with a DNS lookup - this generates a lot of network traffic which is constant while playing stream (i.e not a burst) . This seems to cause problems on Windows systems possibly due to interaction with Windows caching. PlayHLS using ffmpeg and the plugin's DASH implementation both use HTTP 1.1 which means one TCP connection and then multiple chunks sent on same connection. I do not have Win8 or Win10 system so I cannot verify my theory. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote: > Cheers bpa, definately uk based in tropical Northumberland! > > I think most of the answers to your Q's (and logs) are in 'my post last > week' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test/page53=915437#post915437) > > Yup my new machine's CPU is an i7, but I was getting similar issues on > my much slower server 2 months ago (Asus 1005HA Intel Atom N270 Win7). Somehow missed that previous post. I'll look at log in more detail but as a start - with WIn10 i7 rebuffering on live DASH stream - common fix is to go large with "Seconds to delay start live stream" - if the max you tried was 15sec then it would have no effect - please try at least 1min bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Cheers bpa, definately uk based in tropical Northumberland! I think most of the answers to your Q's (and logs) are in 'my post last week' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test/page53=915437#post915437) Yup my new machine's CPU is an i7, but I was getting similar issues on my much slower server 2 months ago (Asus 1005HA Intel Atom N270 Win7). JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote: > Bump! - I'd be really grateful for any help with this. > > I've tried changing DNS to 8.8.8.8 without success. > I'm not getting this problem on my SB Radio (which we don't use much), > only on the SB2, Classic and Boom units > Which makes me think it's an AAC transcoding problem with Windows? DNS is rarely the issue. AACtrasncodsing sound like some of the problem but also possibly buffer size Details please. There have been some odd problems with Windows 10 on high and low end systems playing DASH. IIRC There are always problems on Windows playing live HLS stream. What OS What system spec ? What version of plugin ? What is being played live or on demand ? What format is be played (i.e. HLS or DASH) ? Are you really (i.e. not VPN to uk) in the UK or not ? What are the current settign for BBCipLayer plugin ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
JJP wrote: > Hi, Can anyone [bpa? :-) ] help with my iplayer config please? > > I'm getting frequent and variable Connecting... and Rebuffering... on > all listen live streams. > > > > Any pointers would be much appreciated! > > Jonathan Bump! - I'd be really grateful for any help with this. I've tried changing DNS to 8.8.8.8 without success. I'm not getting this problem on my SB Radio or Booms (which we don't use much), only on the SB2 and Classic units Which makes me think it's an AAC transcoding problem with Windows? Jonathan JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
here's the "blog" http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/bde59828-90ea-46ac-be5b-6926a07d93fb Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Owen Smith wrote: > Yeah right, just like UK Radio Player was going to replace iPlayer Radio > and just like the schedule data iPlayer Extras uses was going to die in > May. I'll believe it when it actually happens. This is a fashion statement. This year's new look. As long as there is a BBC web page from which radio can be played and on demand programs can be found, the plugin is OK - how the app look is just "eye candy" with "personalisation" Also don't forget BBC has a lot of vendors which they have agreed to support so I believe the 7 day feed will stay. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Raymond Woodward wrote: > http://radiotoday.co.uk/2018/06/bbc-sounds-app-to-replace-bbc-iplayer-radio/?utm_source=feedburner_medium=feed_campaign=Feed%3A+radiotoday+%28Radio+Today+-+News%29 Yeah right, just like UK Radio Player was going to replace iPlayer Radio and just like the schedule data iPlayer Extras uses was going to die in May. I'll believe it when it actually happens. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
http://radiotoday.co.uk/2018/06/bbc-sounds-app-to-replace-bbc-iplayer-radio/?utm_source=feedburner_medium=feed_campaign=Feed%3A+radiotoday+%28Radio+Today+-+News%29 Raymond Woodward's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Brilliant - works perfectly!
e.g.,
BBC Radio 2
OJ BORG: PARKLIFE BY BLUR
Note: small typo where you joined the strings ("," instead of ".") in
case anybody else tries this, corrected version below:
Code:
$parts = {
'line' => [
$client->streamingSong->track->title,
$self->song->pluginData->{'track'}. ": ". $self->text,
$self->song->pluginData->{'rp_description'},
],
};
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Glenn2 wrote:
>
> How could I tweak that patch so that...:
>
> STATION
> PROGRAMME: SONG BY ARTIST
>
The variable $parts contains a reference to hash containing a single
element named line, the value of which is a three element array, one
string element for each line of the display. The elements are separated
by ,. In Perl, strings can be joined using the . operator.
So, you want:
Code:
$parts = {
'line' => [
$client->streamingSong->track->title,
$self->song->pluginData->{'track'}. ": ", $self->text,
$self->song->pluginData->{'rp_description'},
],
};
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
mavit wrote: > This is probably a good time to mention a similar change that I proposed > in > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test=897517=1#post897517 I just tried that out and I like it. I like the nice scrolling behaviour. How could I tweak that patch so that instead of the two lines being: STATION: PROGRAMME SONG BY ARTIST instead have them as STATION PROGRAMME: SONG BY ARTIST Then it would be perfect for me (on my SB3) Glenn2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
mavit wrote: > Which leads me to think: is there any chance that the source code for > this plugin could be hosted on one of the code hosting platforms, e.g., > GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket? It makes it easier to see whats changed and > why, easier for people to propose improvements, and harder for those > suggestions to be inadvertently lost/forgotten. No because they don't work with plugin repository. I tried a number of different storage sites and sourceforge was the only one with fewest problems. As for suggestions - keep them all in this forum. Telling people they can put issues and suggestions on more than one site make it hard for maintainer. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Which leads me to think: is there any chance that the source code for this plugin could be hosted on one of the code hosting platforms, e.g., GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket? It makes it easier to see whats changed and why, easier for people to propose improvements, and harder for those suggestions to be inadvertently lost/forgotten. mavit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Glenn2 wrote: > Anyway, I cracked it. I changed a line in BBCOnAir.pm. $self->text is > where it stores a specific string for showing on VFD displays. I > concatenated the title and info strings with ': ' between. > This is probably a good time to mention a similar change that I proposed in https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test=897517=1#post897517 mavit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Hi, Can anyone [bpa? :-) ] help with my iplayer config please? I'm getting frequent and variable Connecting... and Rebuffering... on all listen live streams. I noticed this about 6 months ago and have since moved to new LMS server hardware without success. System / Server Config: LMS 7.9.1 running on Lenovo Thinkpad X230 Laptop Notebook i7-3520M 8GB Win 10 Players misbehaving: Squeezbox 2 & Classic. Wired and wireless. UK based, zen internet DNS. iPlayer config: BBC iPlayer 1.5.3 BBC iPlayer Extras 2.0.0 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml Seconds to delay: 15, Buffer fullness: 100. Fiddling with these has little effect. HLS>DASH>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 this plays 339kbps CBR, AAC LC If I set DASH>HLS>MP3>FlashAAC or DASH, the player seems to repeatedly buffer about 0,1,2,3 seconds and then restarts at 0 without playing. Setting Bitrate for DASH lowest/highest makes no difference. Server Log file has lots of: [18-06-15 10:02:58.0586] Slim::Utils::OS::Win32::getPriorityClass (752) Error: Slim::Utils::LogCan't get process handle () [Wrong number of parameters: expected 0, got 1.] I've tried setting server priority in LMS config to 0:Normal and -16 without effect. I've attached a more detailed log file. I can play mp3 bbc streams without problem eg https://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s46537=16=xx I can stream bbc iPlayer radio through my Windows browser without any buffering. Spotty streams happily at 700+kps Any pointers would be much appreciated! Jonathan +---+ |Filename: log.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25180| +---+ JJP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1047 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
The delay stuff was all at defaults, the only settings I ever changed were the two toggles for the programme data. I don't think the song info missing problem was down to my installation because remember I had two in parallel, one on Win7 machine and one on Joggler. Both LMS 7.9.1 final and iplayer 1.5.3. Both sorted themselves out so it must have been either me going mad or there was a problem at the other end. They fixed themselves without me doing anything anyway. Regarding the missing menu entries on iPlayer on the Joggler (only), I completely removed everything including the stuff LMS leaves behind when you uninstall it (prefs etc). Then I reinstalled exactly the same versions and the menu items are there now. Then I reapplied my fix to BBCOnAir.pm to get the programme names on my SB3 display (instead of just a scrolling date). So all is working good now. For the record, and because you asked, the Joggler is running SqueezeplayOS 3.0.3 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (Trusty) with kernel 3.18 Cheers Glenn2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Glenn2 wrote: > For some reason I am now getting the same as Ronnie. With station icon > always displayed I am now getting song titles where I wasn't before in > web ui and Squeezeplay. This wasn't working yesterday! And I'm talking > about both Joggler and Win7 LMS installations, so maybe there was > something up at the other end? Or maybe I'm just going mad. Song titles are displayed if the stream is considered to be "live" and not "skipped back" or some other delay between the estimate realtime of the audio being played and the time of the live text. The delay can also occur if playing plugin setting "seconds to delay live stream" is over 60 secs for 1.5.4.* but I think lower for other versions. This delay is needed to provide a stream without pauses especially on low end Windows system but can also occur be needed on hoigh end Win10 systems. If there is a "long" delay - usually titles are not displayed (replaced by program info) as they will be out of sync with playing audio. What OS does Joggler run? What version of the plugin ? What is your plugin "seconds to delay live stream" ? Also "song title" are not defined as song titles but a piece of text hacked from the BBC web site that provide short scroll text for BBC Radio web pages - not their player window (which has playlist etc). The info is usually of the form " by " - it is formatted by BBC but it can have other info such as breaking news or other station info between tracks. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
For some reason I am now getting the same as Ronnie. With station icon always displayed I am now getting song titles where I wasn't before in web ui and Squeezeplay. This wasn't working yesterday! And I'm talking about both Joggler and Win7 LMS installations, so maybe there was something up at the other end? Or maybe I'm just going mad. I still don't get the extra menu items (recent tracks etc.) on the Joggler LMS and this was a complete reflash of the Joggler SqueezeplayOS the other day, straight to 7.9.1 and I haven't played around with any menus or done anything like that. It doesn't really matter, it's just odd. If I removed LMS and then reinstalled it, would anything be cached? Is there a procedure to completely remove all trace of it before re-installation? Glenn2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I hope this is helpful. Running BBC iPlayer V1.5.3 on a Joggler with LMS v7.9.2. These are screenshots from the web gui but are replicated on the Joggler screen. With only Show on Air Text enabled 25148 With Show on Air Text and Always display station icon enabled 25149 Ronnie +---+ |Filename: a2Joggler.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25149| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Glenn2 wrote: > Where do I find that? I can't seem to... > > Edit: > Joggler running LMS 7.9.1 & iPlayer 1.5.3 has no recent tracks entry in > the menu. > Win7 PC running LMS 7.7.6 & iPlayer 1.5.3 DOES have recent tracks > between the Listen Live (Non UK) and BBC Radio 1 entries. > > Edit2: Just updated PC installation to LMS 7.9.1 just so they're both on > the same(ish) thing. PC still has many entries the Joggler server > doesn't, not just recent tracks but alternative listen live sources at > the bottom. This is a menu item - some users have downloaded/edited menus. Is it possible you changed the standard menu and forgot about it ? Other possibility is that you installed using on Joggler a repository development URL and not a release URL bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
@GLENN2 I'm running v7.9.2 on a joggler. With BBC Radio 6 playing go to My Apps> BBC iPlayer>Recent Tracks>Third Item down>List of stations ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > I meant the BBCiPlayer plugin Recent Tracks menu Where do I find that? I can't seem to... Glenn2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Glenn2 wrote: > If you are talking about the BBC website, yes. See image. > I could hear the song of course so I knew it was the correct name. I meant the BBCiPlayer plugin Recent Tracks menu but the info should be the same. I'll do a bit more digging. A quick looks seems ot indicate that the VFD display has a composite field "info" which is made up from other metadata whereas the WebGUI and Touch display use the standard fields: "artist" "track" and "disc". bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
If you are talking about the BBC website, yes. See image. I could hear the song of course so I knew it was the correct name. +---+ |Filename: web.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25143| +---+ Glenn2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
