Re: CSConcentrace, ocean water

[G K Murray]

Don't confuse salt with sodium.  most minerals can come in a salt form.  
Sodium is only one mineral salt. 


Dee wrote:

I thought it was sodium free.  Dee  
 
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Date: 04/13/07 19:02:45
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSConcentrace, ocean water
 
there is alot of salt in Concentrace- more so.
 








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Re: CSaspirin

[G K Murray]

Hi Dee,

My Husbacnd has suffered from TIA's in the past.


This is from Merck Manual. 


Transient Ischemic Attacks or mini strokes,

Treatment

Treatment of TIAs is aimed at preventing a stroke. The first step in 
preventing a stroke is to control, if possible, the major risk factors 
for it: high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, smoking, and 
diabetes. In addition, antiplatelet drugs, such as aspirin (Trade Names: 
ECOTRIN, ASPERGUM), and dipyridamole (Trade Names: PERSANTINE), can be 
taken. When stronger drugs are needed (for example, for people who have 
atrial fibrillation, another abnormal heart rhythm, or a heart valve 
disorder), doctors may prescribe anticoagulants (drugs used to inhibit 
blood clotting), such as heparin or warfarin (Trade Names: COUMADIN).


http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch086/ch086b.html

Dee wrote:

Thanks for this, it is just that my husband has to take it because of 
ischaemic attacks.  Dee  
 
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From: G  K Murray mailto:kg...@sasktel.net

Date: 06/04/2007 00:40:51
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSaspirin
 
The property in Aspirin that helps the heart is the  drug

acetylsalicylic acid as it thins the blood taking a lot of pressure off
the heart.  Magnesium is good but this not the form useable by the body.
 
Dee wrote:
 








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Re: CSaspirin

[G K Murray]

My husband did not drink, smoke or have high BP or cholesteral either.  
He definately was not over weight.


Dee wrote:

Thanks very much for this info.  We can't really understand it because 
he doesn't smoke, or drink, has low cholesterol and low blood 
pressure, and although a bit overweight its not a lot.  Just one 
of those things I suppose.  Dee
 
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From: G  K Murray mailto:kg...@sasktel.net

Date: 06/04/2007 18:28:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSaspirin
 
Hi Dee,
 
My Husbacnd has suffered from TIA's in the past.
 


This is from Merck Manual.
 
Transient Ischemic Attacks or mini strokes,
 








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Re: CSaspirin

[G K Murray]

Hi Dee,

I don't know of any other form of magnesium in pills like aspirin other 
than magnesium stearate.  this is what Wikipedia says:


Magnesium stearate, also called octadecanoic acid, magnesium salt, is a 
white substance which is solid at room temperature. It has the chemical 
formula C36H70MgO4. It is a salt containing two equivalents of stearate 
(the anion of stearic acid) and one magnesium cation (Mg2+). Magnesium 
stearate melts at about 88 °C, is not soluble in water, and is generally 
considered safe for human consumption. Because it is widely regarded as 
harmless, it is often used as a filling agent in the manufacture of 
medical tablets and capsules. In this regard, the substance is also 
useful because it has lubricating properties, preventing ingredients 
from sticking to manufacturing equipment during the compression of 
chemical powders into solid tablets. It is also a common ingredient in 
baby powders. In pure powder form, the substance can be a dust explosion 
hazard, although this issue is effectively moot beyond the manufacturing 
plants using it.


When used as a filling agent in the manufacture of capsules and tablets, 
such as vitamins, the source of this ingredient is typically beef. 
However, there is an increasing number of vegetarian options in which 
the product specifically indicates it contains magnesium stearate from 
vegetable sources.


I do not know if this form of magnesium is even used by the body.  I 
have never heard of this source being used.   It is just an anti-caking 
agent from my experience.  I do work in a pharmacy.


G Murray



Dee wrote:

Can anyone tell me the name  of the certain sort of aspirin which has a high magnesium content?  Someone on one of the lists said it and I think it sounded like Bayer or Mayer or something. I did save it but saved it in my 'health' folder and now can't find it!  TAI  Dee 




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Re: CSaspirin

[G K Murray]

The property in Aspirin that helps the heart is the  drug 
acetylsalicylic acid as it thins the blood taking a lot of pressure off 
the heart.  Magnesium is good but this not the form useable by the body.


Dee wrote:

Thank you for that, its just that someone mentioned it on the list 
because apparently this is how aspirin got the name for lowering the 
incidence of heart attack, but someone on the list said this was 
because the sort of aspirin used contained a lot of magnesium which 
was probably more the reason of the beneficial properties, than the 
actual aspiring.  Dee  
 
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From: G  K Murray mailto:kg...@sasktel.net

Date: 04/05/07 18:45:57
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSaspirin
 
Hi Dee,
 
I don't know of any other form of magnesium in pills like aspirin other

than magnesium stearate.  this is what Wikipedia says:
 
Magnesium stearate, also called octadecanoic acid, magnesium salt, is a

white substance which is solid at room temperature. It has the chemical
formula C36H70MgO4. It is a salt containing two equivalents of stearate
(the anion of stearic acid) and one magnesium cation (Mg2+). Magnesium
stearate melts at about 88 °C, is not soluble in water, and is generally
considered safe for human consumption.







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CSAmemia + Hysterectomy

[G K Murray]

HI all,

I have a medical situation, in which  I have had pretty heavy bleeding 
for the past 12 days and am now very anemic.  I have been told that a 
hysterectomy is eminent and by rights I should be having a blood 
transfusion right now.  Regular counts should be 120 and mine is at 77.  
Transfusions around 85-90.  Tomorrow will tell if I need one.  I  have 
been doing some research but am appealing to my health lists for any 
information good or bad towards the situation.  I have presently 3 weeks 
to wait for the surgery unless things go from bad to worse over the next 
few days.  I have been put on medication to help control blood flow and 
iron to build the blood back up.  If things get worse the surgery date 
will be moved up.  I don't want the surgery but I am out in the middle 
of no-mans land with my specialist leaving in 2-3 months.  The 
alternative specialist for this surgery, if I wait until after this one 
leaves, is not a very good option.This doctor is worried about the 
anemia being really bad on heart long term.  I really have been putting 
this off for sometime and have also been turning a blind eye to it.


I would like to hear if anyone has had this procedure and what are some 
pros and cons of the effects. 


You can email me directly to keep the off topic to a minimum.



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Re: CSButter, EarthBalance. etc./Ditto that

[G K Murray]

I should clarify,  It is served in OUR  Upperclass  Italian 
restaurants(Not in Italy).  You can't get anything but pizza, lasagna, 
or spaghetti at our not so upperclass restaurant.  The better 
restaurants consider focaccia and olive oil and red wine vinegar a 
delicacy in our area.  I guess because we( us in the middle of nowhere) 
don't know any better. : )  But I never been more than 300 miles from my 
birth place so I wouldn't know what the real restaurants in  Italy or 
Spain  would serve.  : (Someday I hope to find out!




Richard wrote:

It is not just in Upper class  restaurants you get focaccia and  
dips - if anything it is a peasant  dish . Any normal restaurant in  
Italy or Spain will offer olives,pickles,  alioli ( olive oil and  
garlic mix ), olive oil, vinegar and often several types of bread  
before ordering food. In Spain there is also bread with tomato and  
garlic which children seem to live off- it is known as the  
Mediterranean diet . Richard

On 20/03/2007, at 6:14, G  K Murray wrote:

In upper class Italian restaurants they serve a Focaccia type bread  
broken up to dip in olive oil and red wine vinegar.  They family  
just loves it that way.


I will not eat soy products, and I have heard bad about canola even  
though I live in the heart of canola producing land.  The last 8  
years is mostly GMO type canola  being grown before that it was non  
GMO. I used to worked with cereals breeding program (non-GMO).   I  
do not know if there was any regular breeding program with canola  
before Monsanto started with GMO product.  I have heard that a  
canola stain can not be  taken out with out much difficulty out of  
clothing if you spill a little margerine or oil.  What will it  stick 
like to your insides if it does that to clothing.


vwol...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 3/19/2007 5:46:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
karen...@eoni.com writes:


don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to eat soy or
canola oil.
And the products page doesn't give us a full list of ingredients.
http://www.earthbalance.net/product.html

Actually, if I thought bread and other grain products were good
for me,
I'd just dip it in olive oil if I didn't want butter. Yummy!  
Forget

the spread nonsense.
Step outside the box.
**I Ditto that on the Olive Oil...some crushed garlic and a
good Olive Oil and you are eatin' good:)
The trick really is to find a decent bread...I like the Ezekiall
(?) bread from the Health Food Store and it is beneficial to type
O's (thats me)  but it is so often frozen or freezer burned: 
(  V.8


But, since I don't eat grains - its a moot point.
Olive oil and butter serve me just fine.
Coconut is detrimental to B blood types,
according to d'Adamo.




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Re: CSfinding silver distributor

[G K Murray]

I ditto this!!

kent wrote:


Hi all,

 

I was wondering if anyone knows of a Canadian supplier for 99.9, 30 
gauge silver ribbon.


 


Any input would be appreciated.

 


Thanks

Kent




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Re: CSButter, EarthBalance. etc./Ditto that

[G K Murray]

In upper class Italian restaurants they serve a Focaccia type bread 
broken up to dip in olive oil and red wine vinegar.  They family just 
loves it that way.


I will not eat soy products, and I have heard bad about canola even 
though I live in the heart of canola producing land.  The last 8 years 
is mostly GMO type canola  being grown before that it was non GMO. I 
used to worked with cereals breeding program (non-GMO).   I do not know 
if there was any regular breeding program with canola before Monsanto 
started with GMO product.  I have heard that a canola stain can not be  
taken out with out much difficulty out of clothing if you spill a little 
margerine or oil.  What will it stick like to your insides if it does 
that to clothing. 



vwol...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 3/19/2007 5:46:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
karen...@eoni.com writes:


don't know about anyone else, but I don't want to eat soy or
canola oil.
And the products page doesn't give us a full list of ingredients.
http://www.earthbalance.net/product.html

Actually, if I thought bread and other grain products were good
for me,
I'd just dip it in olive oil if I didn't want butter. Yummy! Forget
the spread nonsense.
Step outside the box.
**I Ditto that on the Olive Oil...some crushed garlic and a
good Olive Oil and you are eatin' good:)
The trick really is to find a decent bread...I like the Ezekiall
(?) bread from the Health Food Store and it is beneficial to type
O's (thats me)  but it is so often frozen or freezer burned:(  
V.8


But, since I don't eat grains - its a moot point.
Olive oil and butter serve me just fine.
Coconut is detrimental to B blood types,
according to d'Adamo.




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Re: CSAlternative to butter

[G K Murray]

In my opinion there is no alternative to butter.  If it is man made, it 
is no good.  Just use butter with respect.


Deborah Gerard wrote:

What is a better alternative to butter? thanks debbie 
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Re: CSrestless leg syndrome

[G K Murray]

Lots of magnesium and some calcium.  I know it is calcium that people 
believes helps muscles but I have used magnesium in the past to correct 
a lot of different muscle twitches and aches and pains and it has helped 
every time.  


Ken  Nancy Bagwell wrote:


Hi all,

I might have restless leg syndrome (or at least that appears to be my 
kind of symptom).  Does anyone have any insight or help regarding this?


My symptoms are not real bad right now, but it is keeping me up about 
1 or 2 hours later every night.  Not painful, but very irritating.  
I'm not sure why I suddenly have this (past couple weeks).


-Ken Bagwell


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Re: CSArgVictim

[G K Murray]

That is because AV and Gina Gomes were unsubbed from the group early 
yesterday or Saturdaynight. According to them it was a surprise.




marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
   



 


ArgyriaVictim claims to know of numerous cases, but,
until she/he presents them for inspection, I must
assume they don’t actually exist. I must also wonder
if Victim's problem actually exists.
   



 Well Terry, she's certainly gone silent on the subject, hasn't she?  MA  

 




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CStest

[G K Murray]

I still have not received much from the list. Just testing to see if I'm 
up to speed.



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Re: CSLED therapy

[G K Murray]

Hi V,

I hear you are the person to talk with about LED lights.  My cousin has 
an LED belt which che used for a couple of years over her abdomen-liver 
area.  She found out in June that she has pancreatic cancer. 

Could the LED's pull toxins to this area and then if not properly 
flushed out cause the cancer to form in the pancreas? Am I way off base 
with this.   I am just throwing this out as I am an avid Master cleanser 
and a big proponent of flushing the toxins out and not just stirring 
them up and leaving them in the body. 

Is there any protocol for further removing toxins once the LED's have 
pulled them out of their hiding spots.  She claims today that she thinks 
she is cancer free, which is a joyous occasion for us because she had 
only been given 6-8 weeks.


G Murray

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Ceck with V, he's on this list.
He's the led man!

Chuck
Stock up and save. Limit: one.

On 11/20/2006 1:13:37 PM, Ken  Nancy Bagwell (kenancy2...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
 


Can anyone recommend an inexpensive LED pain reducing unit that works
well? Actually, I wouldn't mind a site that maybe has plans on how to build one 
yourself, too.

Thanks,
Ken 
   




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Re: CSCS for a calf

[G K Murray]

I raise cattle for a living.  Do not use the CS internally as  Heidrun 
Beer said.  I would push the colostrum that can be purchased from any 
agricultural and vet supply store.   I use colostrum all the time for my 
own health and it works wonders.  It should work for this animal as it 
is it's natural food substance.  Make sure it is colostrom and not just 
milk replacer.   It has been a great help in gaining my health.  It will 
raise it's immunity to help fight the cold as well.


Is this animal of the milk or the meat producing breeds?

G Murray

Deborah Gerard wrote:

I have a good friend who rescues all kinds of animals. She has a 
premature calf who was left to die. He was born with no ears and has a 
coldhe is about three months old. Would it be okay to treat him 
with the cs and about how much how often?

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Re: CSpancreatic cancer

[G K Murray]

For anyone out there,

What are the chances that led light therapy may have aggavated the 
cancer.  She is just 40 and has found a mass in her stomach and then in 
her pancreas, uterus  overies and maybe even her liver.   This person 
has been using a led  light belt for a couple of years and I am 
wondering if the unit may be stirring up toxins but she may not have 
been getting them transported out of the body and this has caused such a 
manifestation to her mid section.   She has started chemo but I am sure 
she i is open to alternative therapies.


G Murray

ekowal...@aol.com wrote:

I've totally lost track of who wanted the cancer information. I just 
got finished typing a bunch of this information out from a book for 
someone I know whose mother has lung cancer and I knew there was 
someone on here before, asking for whatever information we could give. 
If they/You haven't yet gotten enough satisfactory information, please 
email me personally. I've got a good sized document on specific cancer 
and cancer in general and I can copy and paste it to you no problem.




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Re: CSRe: Re: CSPlanter Fasciitis (heel pain)

[G K Murray]

I was at the point I could not walk and when I did it was on the sides 
of my feet to get off the heel area.  It only took a ten day cleanse to 
have the pain go away completely.  



 Definition of Heel Spurs

The heel spur (or calcaneal spur) is a nail-like growth of calcium 
around the ligaments and tendons of the foot where they attach to the 
heel bone. The spur grows from the bone and into the flesh of the 
foot.   http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/224/main.html


http://www.foot.com/info/cond_heel_spurs.jsp
http://www.ourfootdoctor.com/yourfeet_plantarfasciitis.shtml
http://www.footlevelers.com/conditions/heel_spurs.php

G Murray

noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote:

I am taking CMO now- and will start some EDTA if calcium is the problem. I have not resd about calcium as the problem. Mine seems to be a pulled problem.  Again  www.heelspurs.com   
 


From: G  K Murray kg...@sasktel.net
Date: 2006/07/24 Mon PM 03:59:07 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPlanter Fasciitis (heel pain)

Hi Deb,

Plantar faciitis is where calcium builds up around the ligments that run 
under the heel.   I  had severe pain for a couple of years a 2 years 
back that I cleared up with drinking a lot of lemonade.  Lemon seems to 
pull the calcium deposits out of the body.   It has cleared up the pain 
in my feet, joints, liver stones, and any other ache and pain I had.  
Lemon (or Apple cider vinegar) is very alkalizing which will clear up a 
lot of problems people have because most people are very acidic.   Check 
into the master cleanse by Stanley Burroughs or go to www.curezone.com 
that site has a wealth health knowledge.  


G Murray

Carl  Deb Charter wrote:

   

My husband has been diagnosed with Planter Fasciitis (heel pain).  
Does anyone have any alternative methods to deal with this?  CS or may 
Microelectricity?


Thanks for your time.

Deb
 



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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves- E.R. Morrow

TJ Garland  www.noblemetalsonline.com



 

Re: CSPlanter Fasciitis (heel pain)

[G K Murray]

Hi Deb,

Plantar faciitis is where calcium builds up around the ligments that run 
under the heel.   I  had severe pain for a couple of years a 2 years 
back that I cleared up with drinking a lot of lemonade.  Lemon seems to 
pull the calcium deposits out of the body.   It has cleared up the pain 
in my feet, joints, liver stones, and any other ache and pain I had.  
Lemon (or Apple cider vinegar) is very alkalizing which will clear up a 
lot of problems people have because most people are very acidic.   Check 
into the master cleanse by Stanley Burroughs or go to www.curezone.com 
that site has a wealth health knowledge.  


G Murray

Carl  Deb Charter wrote:

My husband has been diagnosed with Planter Fasciitis (heel pain).  
Does anyone have any alternative methods to deal with this?  CS or may 
Microelectricity?
 
Thanks for your time.


Deb




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CSpancreatic cancer

[G K Murray]

Hi,

What can anyone tell me about this disease.  I have heard it is one of 
the worsed a person can have.  Is there any hope?


G Murray



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Re: CSRuth, HTML on hotmail...

[G K Murray]

Hi Ruth,

At the top of each column in your inbox there is a header.  You can 
click on these headers and they will arrange your emails according to 
date, subject or who it is from.  If you want them to be in your inbox 
according to date you have to click on the word date and they should 
change.  You likely have it set according to the from column, right now. 

A little arrow sits beside the word 'DATE'  in which order I have the 
emails sorted.   It will point up for the oldest to be on top or down if 
you want the newest on top.  just click the word date until you have 
them in the right order, you want


G Murray



ruth strackbein wrote:

Thanks, Mike.  I wondered what happened.  My messages come in 
alphabetical order instead of the order in which they are posted.  
I'll check to see if I actually have a Yahoo regular e-mail account or 
whether it is just through this other group I belong to that is 
connected to Yahoo.  Will check and see how that one works.  Meanwhile 
this way of doing things is not too inconvenient, just takes getting 
used to.  Ruth





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Re: CScs and boron (to zeb)

[G K Murray]

I ended up using :
http://translation.langenberg.com/  which then went to 
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr  after selecting dutch to 
english.


At least you can get the gist of it.

Silverness are textile particular on the basis of Japanese hightech 
zilvergaren. It promotes hygi?sche sleep surroundings because it 
protection offers against bacteri?en huismijt. This gives tevens a 
deodoriserend impact. Moreover Silverness in an effective manner unload 
static electricity, what results in a quiet sleep. These properties are 
permanent. Washable 60.C. further information | our mattresses with 
silverness ' zilver in matrastijk textile is a particular concept ', 
thus Chris Nederhorst van Royal Health Foam, producer of among other 
things traagschuimmatrassen. It is stretch matrastijk in which Japanese 
hightech zilvergaren have been processed. Zilver has been confessed for 
its antibacteri? functioning. Moreover it unloads static electricity, 
what promotes a good night's rest. And it works permanently. Zilvergaren 
that gebreid become in the matrastijk of Royal Health Foam are of the 
new applications of zilver. Particularly in Japan and China the use of 
zilver becomes textile always populairder: it is there already applied 
successfully in children's clothes, socks and bedclothes. Actively 
antimicrobic, anti-huismijt  deodorant functioning already age-long are 
used concerning the complete world for kookgerei and specifications 
zilver, for its natural antibacteri? properties and sustainability. 
Japaneses, Chinezen and other oosterlingen use from way back much of 
zilver as a medecine for new-born children to prevent infecties and 
viruses and fight. The functioning of zilver ions has been shown by 
several scientific institutes worldwide. Moreover the special garen in 
textile has been tested, and has appeared that anti-bacteri? zilver ions 
is thank activity of zilver free make to the capacity. Because of this 
both bacteri?als huismijt are fought actively and nasty are geurtjes 
occurred and are neutralised. That happens in each type zilver textile 
and this capacity is not reduced by the substance washes. Antistatisch a 
good atmosphere in the sleep chamber is essential for a good night's 
rest. By synthetic textile, also in vitrages, vloerbedekking, bedclothes 
and nachtgoed elektro-smog arise in the form of static electricity. 
Elektro smog are detrimental for the human body and work annoying on the 
night's rest. The tijk of Royal Health Foam discharges the problem of 
static electricity on because zilver is the most conductive material 
that there exists. As a result, the garen is in the matrastijk if none 
other one able by means of corona ontlading electric deliver tension to 
air. Thus these matrastijk ensure that you can relax to sleep. An extra 
added value of zilver is that antistatische the functioning of this 
textile ensures that the matrastijk attract no substance. - RESEARCH to 
the link between sleep and electrostatic ontladingen from several 
researches with test persons has become clear that there link exists 
between the quantity electric cargo and the way one sleeps. The test 
persons got actiwatch during their sleep to with which movements were 
registered. From the results became clear that when one sleeps on a doek 
with antistatische properties one moves considerably less, and as a 
result a deeper and more fixed sleep enjoys. - ELEKTROSMOG declaration 
of above terms corona ontlading is ontlading of the electric field above 
a loaded oppervlak by means of air. Meanss ' loaded ' that positive and 
negative luchtdeeltjes (ions) in balance is not. Conductive material 
(such as zilver) can ensure an exchange of positive and negative 
lucht-ionen so that the cargo of the oppervlak neutralises, what wants 
say: gradually unloads. Elektrosmog are the verzamelnaam of all 
attentive form of electric and surround magnetic fields and radiation as 
a result of which we in modern living continuously its. That radiation 
serves generally good aims, but has unfortunately also negative 
influence on our body. body warrants ' communicate ', as it happens, by 
giving minuscule electric impulsjes: wisselingen of positively and 
negative charged ions. This way the human body is headed: of moving 
muscles to producing (or correctly not) certain substances etc. etc. 
Elektrosmog be?loedt the tension differences in human warrants, which 
function for a good of our body essential are. Static electricity is a 
direct current which can arise in several manners, frequently by use of 
plastics. It steps on when the cargo of triboelectricity cannot be 
removed. Static electricity is a form of elektrosmog. It is not well for 
the body and can also unpleasant be at sudden ontlading if a statically 
loaded person comes suddenly in contact with a disposed oppervlak as a 
result of which is possible the cargo gone. The reason why the zilver is 
packed in polyester is that as a result the 

Re: CSCMO Boron

[G K Murray]

Does anyone know what the difference is between borax and boric acid?  
We have boric acid on the shelf in our pharmacy.  One website says this: 
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/aug2000/967602781.Bc.r.html
Commercially, boric acid is used for fireproofing cloth, glazing 
pottery, hardening steels, making electroplating baths and making 
artificial gems. Boric acid; however, is never to be ingested, it is a 
poison. It is used in powder form as a pesticide to kill ants, 
cockroaches, fleas, silverfish, crickets and other pests.
another web site says this: 
http://www.natbat.com/docs/boron.htm
If you believe aspirin or table salt is dangerous, poisonous or in some 
other way life threatening, then you probably should not use borates. 
If, on the other hand, you can rationally look at the comparative data, 
you will probably come to the conclusion that boric acid and Boron No. 
10 are among the safest of choices for making cotton-batting flame 
retardant.


G Murray

ransley wrote:


*Borax is mined out of the ground and is perfectly edible, despite being
sold as a laundry cleaner complete with warnings not to eat it because They
(The Powers That Be) don't want you to know how effective it is. TOO much,
as in spoonfuls, is poisonous, but what won't kill you if you take TOO much?


 

Re: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver protein IV

[G K Murray]

I think zeb was talking about systenic Candida Albicans, not just 
vaginal yeast.  This is yeast in the digestive tract, ears, blood, etc.  
I don't think one diflucan would be acire unless you have drastically 
changed your eating habits as well.   When fighting systemic yeast, 
sugar must be eliminated in all forms.  Fermented foods  and all high 
glycemic carbohydrates should be eliminated as well.   it takes months 
or even years to successful fight Candida.  Most allopathic Doctors 
think that systemic yeast is crap and wont even discuss it.


Check out this website:

http://www.candidadiet.com/therapist/candida_self_assessment_form.pdf
http://www.curezone.com/diseases/candida/

G Murray

MATTHEW ARNOLD wrote:

No, I've never been treated for candida albicans, unless you mean just 
for yeast infections.  When I have yeast infections I have to take 
more than one diflucan.  But I haven't had a yeast infection in awhile.




From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver 
protein IV

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT)

Shannon, I was wondering if you have ever been treated for candida 
albicans? Also, do a search on lyme disease.These are two illnesses 
that can sometimes cause symptoms similar to yours.If you have any 
questions, please feel free to email me. I have had alot of experince 
with both.
  Does anyone have any information on the health benefits and or 
safety of silver protein IVs? Two of my friends are recieving these 
from different health care practioners and I am concerned. They are 
also but dont seem to get answers that give them confidence in this 
method of treatments.
  Also, has anyone on this forum heard about a product called silver 
formula oral/topical? Again, we are talking about a silver protein 
product with msm. It is put out by vitamin research who I have found 
to be very reputable. Thanks 






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Re: CScs for horses- misinformation in article?

[G K Murray]

To me it sounded like she was only trying to promote the CS that a 
certain company sells. 


marmar...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 4/18/2006 7:33:41 PM Central Standard Time, 
wen...@tuxnightclub.com writes:


I was surprised
to see this information quoted on her site about CS which is too bad
because so many people reading it would miss out on the benefits.
Since
I make my own CS with a silvergen unit I have no problem using it for
people and pets!

Hi Wendy.  You're right -- she does have an incredible site.  I didn't 
see the information there that you forwarded.  But I'm wondering why 
you don't email her and tell her that there are many of us using CS 
that we make ourselves, on our horses and dogs -- with good results.  
Perhaps she's just misinformed. MA

Re: CSSuper Silver solution ??

[G K Murray]

Oh,  Ok I already do that!

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


Super Silver is simply CS added to oxygenated water (a
good idea). You can accomplish the same thing by
making your own inexpensive CS and adding food grade
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CSSuper Silver solution ??

[G K Murray]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anybody has heard of this product before.  It claims 
to be a patented product.  My local health food store sells it and they 
claim it to be a superior product to anything else they have sold.  It 
is being sold on a survival type website in Wa.   I am leary when they 
say it is patented. 


G Murray


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Re: CSCS w/ antibiotic...herxheimer ?

[G K Murray]

herks hi mer  (long I)

Wendy wrote:


How does one 'pronounce' herxheimer correctly???

Thanks

Wendy




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Re: CSpurifying water

[G K Murray]

TJ

So do you use it for making silver?   Does it take out the minerals out 
of the water?  I was under the impression that most water filters can 
not take out the minerals.  It needs to be softened through a water 
softener for that to happen.  I have triple reverse osmosis water, that 
has been previously softened then ozonated at the finish.  What type of 
silver would be made from that kind of water.


G Murray

T J Garland wrote:


Buy a British Berkfield water filter. It will last you the rest of your
life~ $200. I have used mine every day for 10 years and have not changed
the filters yet. TJ

Re: CSOver dose/gray face

[G K Murray]

Health food store or any drugstore vitamin and mineral section.  It is 
an essential mineral.


Medwith, Robert wrote:


Thanks to every one for your saugestions.
I am going to try Vit E and the Selenium for now.
Stupid question what is Selenium and where can I get it.
 
   Bob

Re: CSCS urinary tract infections

[G K Murray]

What I do is drink alot of water to begin with so that when I do drink 
several ounces of CS it goes straight to the bladder and it does seem to 
work fairly well.  That and 2-3 doses of colostrum every 3-4 hours and 
everything usually clears up in 24 hours.  And I have had some severe 
feeling UTI's.


G Murray

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


Pat said,
I've found that CS doesn't prevent or cure urinary
tract infection.

I've had several reports of urinary tract infections
gone quickly from drinking CS. The key to remember is
that, in order to get the silver into and through the
urinary tract, you may need to drink generous amounts
- 8 oz or more, and drink it frequently - every few
hours.

Terry Chamberlin
 




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Re: CSGums

[G K Murray]

I use undiluted 3% every day to rinse my mouth and there is no pain.  It 
feels like water.  I don't even taste it until I spit it out.  Then I 
rinse with silver, works great.


sol wrote:


UNdiluted? OUCH!

sol

Dan Nave wrote:


Also try rinsing with Hydrogen Peroxide (3%) once or twice a day.

Dan





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CSrunning off of 12 volt

[G K Murray]

Hi list,

I was wondering if the cs makers that run on120v can be made capable to 
run off of 12 volt system via a solar and wind system.  I am hoping not 
to have to use an inverter with this system. 


K Murray


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Re: CSCS Sources

[G K Murray]

Everything but the distilled water, likely.

Susan wrote:


does this include everything that you need to make it?

Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

V..is on this site and he sells a unit for 25.00 that a child
could operate and he will answer any and all questions that you
might have...at this price you cannot go wrong...deb

Re: CSNiacin - Stomach acid test

[G K Murray]

Hi Everyone,

I received this off from one of my other lists. I don't know how 
accurate it is, but it can give you an idea Whether you have too much or 
not enough acid.


G Murray

http://www.drdebe.com/BAKESODA.htm

STOMACH ACID ASSESSMENT

For this test you will need some fresh baking soda. The purpose of this 
test is to give us a rough indication as to whether your stomach is 
producing adequate amounts of hydrochloric acid. The most scientific 
test for assessment of hydrochloric acid levels is the Heidelberg test. 
Gastrocaps can also be used to measure hydrochloric acid levels with 
good accuracy. Both these methods are somewhat cumbersome however, and 
involve a visit to a doctor for you to swallow a special capsule, which 
is used to measure acid levels. Hydrochloric acid is important for 
digestion and absorption of many nutrients. When hydrochloric acid is 
lacking, malnutrition results. Also, because hydrochloric acid kills 
many bacteria, yeasts, and parasites, its insufficiency is associated 
with greater incidence of gastrointestinal infection. Hypochlorhydria 
(inadequate hydrochloric acid production) is linked to not only 
gastrointestinal symptoms, but also to autoimmune diseases and 
degenerative diseases of all kinds.


To perform this test: mix one quarter teaspoon of baking soda in eight 
ounces of cold water, first thing in the morning, before eating or 
drinking anything except water. Drink the baking soda solution. Time how 
long it takes to belch. Time up to five minutes. If you have not belched 
within five minutes http://www.drdebe.com/REVLWHCL.htm stop timing 
anyway.


If your stomach is producing adequate amounts of hydrochloric acid you 
should probably belch within two to three minutes. Early and repeated 
belching is consistent with excessive stomach acid. Belching results 
from the acid and baking soda reacting to form carbon dioxide gas. The 
Heidelberg or Gastrocap tests can be employed for confirmation of the 
results of this test.


Copyright © November 9, 1998 by:

Joseph A. Debé, D.C., D.A.C.B.N., C.C.S.P., C.C.N.

38 Great Neck Road • Great Neck, N.Y. 11021 • 516-829-1515



marmar...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 1/1/2006 9:09:51 PM Central Standard Time, 
pattycake29...@yahoo.com writes:


When I was having heartburn, the problem was too much acid 

Hi Pat. How was this determined? I'm very interested because heartburn 
is a daily problem for me. I vacillate between taking antacids and 
not. :-( MA




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Re: CSFood Poisoning ( Rotten Hamburger )

[G K Murray]

My husband takes it anytime his stomach starts to give him problems from 
eating food and it has always taken only 20-30 minutes for releif.  I 
have always treasured that story of Bob Lee's.  It had me rolling.  I 
too kept copies of it, but not sure where I tucked it away. 


G Murray

Wayne Fugitt wrote:


Morning Marshall,

At 10:14 AM 12/20/2005, you wrote:

Why use something that takes a couple of hours? I have never found 
EIS to take more than 10 minutes.



I can re post Bob Lee's post of a few years back relative to the 
spoiled hamburger.   That is an attention getter for sure.


I also have his great article on sweat on my website.   I have tried 
to contact him within the last year and was unable to find him.


   Wayne




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Re: CSwarm mist humidifier

[G K Murray]

Could you just remove the filter as the water would not need to be 
filtered anyway.


Revonda Henderson wrote:

I saw a Vick's Ultrasonic Humidifier on display at our local CVS. The 
mist output was great but it said on the box that the water filter 
removes minerals and eliminates white dust . Will the filter remove 
the silver?


- Original Message -
From: marmar...@aol.com mailto:marmar...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSwarm mist humidifier

In a message dated 11/1/05 12:46:39 PM Central Standard Time,
res00...@gte.net mailto:res00...@gte.net writes:



it has to be an ULTRASONIC humidifier




Thanks.  That was exactly what I had been forgetting.  MA 

Re: CSLumps and bumps

[G K Murray]

There is a possibility of having enlarged lymph nodes as well.  When the 
body is fighting off an infection, they enlarge.  I have had large lumps 
show up in my arm pits, which I thought at first was ingrown hairs but 
there was no folicle involved.  They were very large and painful, about 
the size of a dime.  I had several doctors check them out including a 
haemotologist who said that they were lymph nodes. 

I have also had them in my jaw line when I have cold sores and I had it 
checked out by dentists and doctors who confirmed the enlarged lymph 
node.  It felt like a bone chip that was moveable.  I'm not sure how far 
down the leg the lymph nodes fo but they do go down the thigh a ways as 
the groin area has a lot of them.


G Murray

marmar...@aol.com wrote:

Well, for the third time in the past month or so (probably more like 
two months) I have a painful lump on my leg.  This one is on my lower 
right calf.  The first one was on the inside of my left knee.  Don't 
remember where the second one was.  Something is going on, and I don't 
know what.  They are very painful when they are new (which is how I 
find out that I have one), they gradually go down in size and become 
less painful and then eventually disappear.  This has never happened 
to me before and I don't think I ever knew anyone that had this.  They 
are not from an injury of any type -- they just show up.  Anyone have 
any ideas?  MA

Re: CSeye twitching, parasites and CS

[G K Murray]

Wendy

I had a very bad eye twitch for about a year and a half.   I'm not sure 
what causes eye twitching.  I am more inclined to believe deficiencies 
or even parasites before listening to main stream medicine saying that 
the only cause is stress.  Which is what they all told me and they blew 
off any other questions I asked.   Mind you it was always worse under 
stressful situations, but it took a lot of cleansing and magnesium 
supplementation before it went away,


I started doing series of Master cleanses (fasting on lemonade made with 
lemons, maple syrup and cayenne pepper) and liver cleanses last summer, 
along with doses of cs, bioxycleanse, and magnesium.  After starting 
that routine I felt so good and the eye twitches vanished.  Thinking 
about them, now makes my eye feel like it could twitch, but it has not 
returned since early last summer. 

I need to do that all over again as I feel myself going back to my old 
habits again.  I feel my liver is starting to feel congested.  (I have 
no gallbladder)  My feet are starting to ache and I have something going 
on with my main index finger knuckle.  It aches and it  is getting large 
bump in the side of the joint. 

It could very well be parasites.  I never tried cs in the eye.  I drank 
it at night between the large amounts of lemonade.   I do have the odd 
floater in my eye that has been there since I can remember.  CS has not 
made them go away. : (


Just in case that it might really have been just stress, I told myself 
that I was not going to let the stressor in my life bother me and that 
also seemed to help.


G Murray

Wendy wrote:

Is it possible that eye twitching means 'parasites'?? I thought I had 
read that before.  Would CS sprayed or dropped in the eyes have any 
affect on that or would one still need to do the standard parasite 
cleanse etc. ?


 


Wendy

 

Re: CSBentonite (Green Clay)

[G K Murray]

Thanks in Advance

Jim Holmes wrote:


Too Intelligent to Answer

-Original Message-
From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:42 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBentonite (Green Clay)

Can someone please enlighten me on what TIA means?

-Ken Bagwell


--- larry tankersley la...@webtv.net wrote:

 


Dear Lister's ...over the past several years there
have been post
regarding Bentonite; would someone please send me
the name of a
reliable, quality, reasonable priced, source that
they have used. TIA



larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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CSBlack streak from gold ring - Iron deficiencies

[G K Murray]

Several years ago I was told that if you were difficient in iron, that 
by rubbing a gold ring across the skin would show a black mark.  I 
co-worker said she tried it the night before and the streak showed up 
then she ate some spinach for supper and the line did not happen the 
second time.  The next day at work she used the ring again for us and 
the black mark showed up again. 

Just recently I was told that I am extremely low in iron and was put on 
supplements.  I tried the ring streaking thing and it did not show 
black.  My husband did not believe it would leave a black mark so I ran 
the same ring right across his forhead and a big black mark suddenly 
showed up.  I guess it did not show on me due, to the fact that, I was 
taken a large doseage of iron supplements.


G Murray

Just today I heard that iron should be taken with vit C or orange 
juice.  Is this correct?


Teri Johnston wrote:


At 09:27 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote:


Gee, I dunno.
Most gold rings do have silver and copper in them.
Some people turn copper braclets green pretty fast.
Skin acidity varies.
Nothing should happpen with 24 karat gold.

Ode



Glad to hear you say that Ode.  I have never been about to wear gold 
jewelry less than 24 carat.  My body oils would not only turn the 
jewelry black but if I kept it on the metal would pit.  I gave up and 
only wear silver or platinum as they don't react with me.


Teri




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CScanker sores ?

[G K Murray]

I have a question about canker sores.  My 8 year old boys seems plagued 
with them.  I know that Lysine is good for cold sores (herpes virus) but 
is it also good for canker sores?  What else can be done as he seems to 
have 2-3 in his mouth at any one time.  Now he has a sore on his 
tongue.  I have him swishing between salt water, scope, and colloidal 
silver, several times a day.  It seems to help take them away, but 
slowly.  But what would prevent them?  He is my healthiest eater and 
really  loves his fruit  veggies, and whole foods.  He will not eat out 
at any restaurant except for spaghetti and meat sauce and ice cream.  
Which is not very often.  I am at a loss what to do for him and he does 
not like any medicine.  I have tried orabase to cover the sores to let 
him eat but he wont even use that.  Everything seems to hurt him.



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Re: CSburning under right rib

[G K Murray]

Ruth,

Burning under the rib cage maybe gall bladder or liver issues.I 
would check out liver or gallbladder cleanses at:

www.curezone.com

G Murray


ruth strackbein wrote:


From Ruth Strackbein
   Concerning red beet juice, I am beginning to eat plain beets with 
the juice they are steamed in. Don't know how they will affect my 
tummy, but will see.  I use an electric steamer outfit I found at a 
recycleshop.  It has a container to put water in with a pan with 
fairly large holes in it.  I put veggies in whole .  After the water 
steams, I put the vegetables in and steam until barely tender.  Beets 
and carrots taste very sweet done like that.  I eat no flour, sugar 
products at all except for honey now and then. I am also useing brown 
rice.  Plan to try old-fashioned oatmeal soon. I have started using  
teaspoon of cs I got from my daughter with each meal.  She advised me 
to start slowly.  My large colon is working better, but, so far, I 
still have trouble with burning under my right ribcage. Cheers! Ruth

Re: CScandida to ernie

[G K Murray]

Where is it?

G Murray

Ernie Patai wrote:


Yes, I wrote a general description of what I was recommended to do from
the nutritionist.

-Original Message-
From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:03 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScandida to ernie

Did you post somewhere how you recovered from candida?




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CSMaking Creams and Gels

[G K Murray]

Hi Sandee,

You mentioned in an email to Jr. that you made some creams and gels.  
The rest on the list assumed you meant you had a website.  If you do, 
could you point me to it?  Otherwise could you give a little write up an 
how one would go about making the creams and gels.  Recipies?  This all 
sounds interesting and I would not know where to start for ingredients.


Thank you,
G Murray


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Re: CSGall Stones

[G K Murray]

It all depends on the shape of the stones. 1 inch stones are passed by 
some with out any pain, but it depends on if they are long and  narrow.  
As long as the epsom salts are taken there should not be much problem.  
I have lost my gallbladder now going on 9 years.  I do liver flushes in 
combination with master cleanses and almost every 2-6 weeks.  I have 
felt so much better when doing them.  I have passed stones while not 
doing any liver flushes and that is painful, otherwise I have never had 
any pain.  I would recommend interested people sign on the the gallstone 
email list hosted by curezone and ask questions there.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gallstones


Glenda


stepbystep...@aol.com wrote:


Hi all!
Liver flush is great! You can flush your stones out very quickly, if 
they are small enough.
I would recommend to have a sonogram first you do anything. If 
you largest stone is more than 1-1.5 cm in diameter I would not do the 
flush.
What might happened that during the flush your stones start moving but 
because of the size it would not be able to pass the duct. The result 
= an obstruction + severe pain +inflamation+ possible infection = 
surgical emergency with its side effects.
I'm the biggest advocate for alternative treatments but lets not loose 
the head.

Good luck
Vitale

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest: knee infection

[G K Murray]

Hi Mary,

Did they put in dissolvable stitches?  Any dissolvable stitches made my 
incisions stay raw, open and weepy.  I had to go in and pull the 
stitches out, myself.  Once I did that they healed up just fine.  This 
was before my knowledge of CS, so no, I did not try any.


G Murray

Helen Woodward wrote:


Hi,
Had arthroscopic surgery to my left knee almost three weeks ago and 
one of the incisions is still infected and today the Dr. put me on 
Zitromicin and said if it was not better by Friday he would put me in 
the hospital for IV antibiotics.  Suppose to clean it once a day with 
dial soap and put bandage on. Have been cleaning it and putting about 
22 ppm CS on it and the infection is worse.  The Dr. said if was Strep 
(don't think he said Staff) is one worse than the other. Can't 
understand why the CS didn't help?

Any help would be appreciated.
Mary H




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Re: CSNeed help with kidney stones - Louise

[G K Murray]

why the caution on drinking water?

Louise wrote:

Caution, if you are peeing very little do not drink lots of water.  IF 
you pee a quart a day, drink the same (taking into consideration what 
you might loose in perspiration)
 
There are homeopathic remedies for stoned and pain and would suggest 
you check out a homeopath for the remedies.
 
Louise

Re: CSUnidentified subject!

[G K Murray]

Hi MyCJWorld,

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Where is the off topic list, please?

Re: CSMoney, sweet as honey

[G K Murray]

Hi all,

Why would this site say to drink 8-10 glasses of water a day?  I know 
people are supposed to drink at least 8 glasses of water every day any 
way.  But how does this pertain to colloidal silver?  What is a microna?


American Longevity's Majestic Earth Colloidal Silver is made with the 
highest quality ingredients available. This product has been laboratory 
tested confirming 50 parts per million of pure colloidal silver with an 
average particle size of .0001 Microna. Our Colloidal Silver contains 
De-ionized water and pure microna fine silver in suspension. When taking 
colloidal silver be sure to drink 8 - 10 glasses of water per day. 
Colloidal Silver is a popular dietary supplement and American Longevity 
is proud to now have available one of the best Colloidal Silver products 
on the market.

http://www.mich.com/~vit/colloidal_silver.html

G Murray

Re: CSdoctors, sigh

[G K Murray]

Hi Marshalee,

Good to hear about no pains under the left ribs as that is not a good 
sign.  I have no gallbladder either.  I still have pains in that area.  
Maybe phantom pains, but you can still have stones in the bile ducts and 
liver trying to exit.   I have passses several stones since having my 
gallbladder removed.  I do frequent liver cleansing as well and that 
seems to keep the pain at bay. 

I have heard of people taking a daily dose of lemon in some 
water(sweetened with a little honey or maple syrup) for a few weeks also 
helps with liver pains.  Try milk thistle as well.


G Murray

Marshalee wrote:

Hi! Well, I have no gallbladder anymore, as the darn Lyme bugs did it 
in. Had to have it removed in 1991. (I heard this happens to a lot of 
Lymies)

Maybe this is a phantom pain??
No pain in the left side at all.
I took a big bunch of silver yesterday, and that finally got rid of 
the small fever I`d been experiencing for a week or so.
I`m wondering if I`m trying to detox, as I recently upped my intake of 
Vitamin C, B complex, calcium, and other good things. Been rereading 
Adelle Davis`s Let`s Get Well. (Boy, the Quackwatch idiot sure 
lambasted her!)

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Re: CSdoctors, sigh

[G K Murray]

Hi Marshalee,

The pains under your ribs is likely your gall bladder/liver on your 
rightside and spleen on your left side.  I had my gallbladder removed 
eight years ago and when they diagnosed many stones they also found my 
spleen to be enlarged.  WhenI feel crappy my spleen enlarges more and I 
can feel it pushing on my bottom ribs.   It is sometimes tiggered by 
certain foods or when i am cleansing and stirring up toxins.  It can be 
downright annoying. 


It can also be a sign of lymphoma, best to have a ct scan or ultrasound.

G Murray

Marshalee wrote:

I`m feeling really crummy, weak and achy all over, some pain under my 
ribs, and my feet really annoy me now, especially when I have been 
lying down a while. Probably old Lyme Disease damage.

Any ideas?
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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Deborah,

They have not been any where near pesticides for many months as we live 
in the far north and the snow is starting to melt.  Unless it is 
residual from summer last year.  I don't know.


Thanks,
G Murray


deborah byron wrote:

I'm sure you've already thought of this as well then, but its the time 
of  year in my part of the world where many people are spraying 
herbicides for  the early so called weeds--what's wrong with 
dandelions anyway?  Honeybees  love them.
Anyway, just another thought especially if your kids play on sports 
fields.


Best,
Deborah




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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Stuff,

I would like to do that just for my own peace of mind as we haul all our 
drinking water in.  I am sure there is lots of bad stuff in it.  I am 
not sure how one would haul enough water for bathing and washing clothes 
if the water is no good.  I'll check into it.


Thanks,
G Murray


Stuff wrote:



Maybe you want to do an independent analysis on the town water.

stuff




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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Yes I have heard that.



Charles Sutton wrote:


They are also good as boiled greens and in salads.
(as long as they are not sprayed with poison)
 



- Original Message - 
From: deborah byron laqueren...@cox-internet.com


 


what's wrong with dandelions anyway? Honeybees
love them.

Re: CSLooking back...

[G K Murray]

Hi All,

I've been here since Bruce Marx's list dissolved and people there said 
that this was a good list, somewhere around 1998 and Mike was already 
the list owner than.  Yes, people come and go.   I have learned alot and 
would miss the banter of the long time list members, even though I only 
usually lurk.  


G Murray

M. G. Devour wrote:


Hi Gang,

Looking through my off-list correspondence with Cliff Hume, I realized 
that he's been around since at least 1998. He may be one of the 
original members who were here when I took over.


I know many of those 113 folks have moved on in the last 7 years, but I 
know there's still a few of you out there! 

Chime in if you've been here all that time! I'd love to know who's 
still out there.


Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Stuff,

They bathe in town water, but they drink triple reverse osmosis ozonated 
water from an independant well source that is local. 
It would get very costly to haul water to bath in. 

Colloidal silver seems to soothe the rashes a bit but does not seem to 
get rid of it.


Thanks,
G Murray


Stuff wrote:


Just a thought...

Are you using bottled water or city/well water?

Whatever it is, you might want to switch to another source to see what 
happens.


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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Deborah,

Almost all the playground equipment is now metal.  There are a few wood 
structures in town but the kids rarely get to play on them.  We don't 
have any deck ourselves.  I'll keep thinking about that and see if there 
is anything else that they might come into contact with.


Thanks,
G Murray

deborah byron wrote:

This is in the realm of a wild guess--do your kids come into contact 
with  treated wood (arsenic preservative) in playground equipment, 
decking, etc.?

Best,
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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Marshalee,

Yes, these would be all good things to try.   I can't seem to get the 
kids to swallow pills yet, so I have to find liquid remedies.  They have 
coughed up more pills trying to swallow but still can't.  I'll see if I 
can get some liquid forms of the things you suggested.  Yes, tea tree 
oil, would be a good choice too to try on the hands.  These kids can be 
doing relatively normal things and big blister like spots (quarter size 
or larger)will come off  and leave a very raw spot for weeks.  Right now 
they only have smaller peeling around the finger tips but even some of 
that looks like it is getting deep.  I seem to forget about that product 
as I use mostly H2O2 and CS for most fungal and bacterial problems.  
They don't get migraines at all.  I never hear them complain about 
headaches.  

The one most plagued with canker sores seems to eat pretty healthy lots 
of fruit and veggies.  I'm wondering if it is the fruits that bring them 
on as he just had a new one pop out yeasterday and he has been eating a 
fair amount of grapefruit and grapes this past day or so.  Maybe some of 
the fruit is too acidic for his system.  The last 2 days he has also 
been complaining of a very sore back.  He is a very tall boy for his age 
and seems to have fast growth spurts and has complained about leg pains 
before. 

They both of them have had the red sandpaper type skin every year right 
around christmas.  The very first year that the kids had this.   I was 
so worried that it maybe measles and did not want to go home for 
christmas and give it to all the rest.  The kid never actually got 
sick.  But it has happened in various forms every year since.  This past 
winter, besides the rough dry bumpy skin, the buttocks area of the boy 
had broken out in a pimple like dry rash.  Very sore and we suspected 
clothes washing detergent, but it seemed that the CS seemed to relieve 
the pimples even though the red rash does not seem to want to clear up. 
It has faded when the weather got a little nicer but each time it snows 
the rash seems to come back.  Like I said I am down to mostly washing 
the clothes with just tiny amounts of soap that he seems to tolerate and 
triple rinsing them but the rash seems to persist. 

I have been putting moisturizing cream (glaxal base) for sensative skin 
and that makes it feel better but that rash does not let up. 
I tried Keri bath oil to see if the oil would help the dry skin and that 
seemed to exasperate it.  Not winning with much I do.  The kids love the 
CS tho they are always asking for it for any thing that hurts.  It 
really seems to take pain away.


G Murray

Marshalee wrote:

Hmm, the bumps sound like what I had as a kid. Solution: Vitamin A. 
That helps a multitude of problems, your kids have many of them. 
Vitamin E  goes along with it.

Do they get migraines or headaches in general?
The hair loss shows a need for zinc, the canker sores need vitamin C.
Melaleuca oil (tea tree oil) is great for the pain of those. (I know!)
Email me and I`ll give you some more.
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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Terry,

I have looked into lysine.   I have been looking for the recommended 
daily dose, but I have not found a quality product here that would give 
methe proper dosage.  I have found one with some lysine in it but it is 
mixed and only says it has lysine in it with no amounts listed.  I am 
sceptical. 

Do you have a brand name as I do work in a pharmacy and maybe I can get 
them to bring it in?  Who supplies it?
Are you saying that they come in 1000mg capsules with 100 per bottle.  
That is only a 10-20 day supply.  It would be very costly for a 
maintenance dose even. 

Give me some info and I'll get them to check it out. 


Thanks
G Murray



TC wrote:


You mentioned cold sores or canker sores. Both these
respond to generous quantities (5-10,000 mg/day) of
lysine, an amino acid.

I buy mine from a pharmaceutical supply house, much
better price than any HF store. It has a very mild,
slightly tangy taste, dissolves into any liquid, can
be taken on an empty or full stomach.

Ask a pharmacist if he can order it for you. Buy more
than 100 grams (that's only the equivalent to 100
thousand-milligram capsules).

Until I found CS, lysine was the only way I could
control the cold-sore herpes that would break out all
over my face several times per year.



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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi  Bamboo Chik,

Thanks, I was looking for the dosage that I could give the kids for Vit 
A as I know it can be toxic.  They do get yogurt fairly often in their 
school lunches and freeze it at home and eat like popsicles.  I suppose 
that might kill a few?  We try to cut the sugar, but the one child never 
lets us know about her treats.  They are good about pop.  When having a 
choice for pop, they will usually choose water.


Thanks for your info,
G Murray


Bamboo Chik wrote:


I agree with the nutritional supplements. As a clinical nutritionist, I
have seen problems such as you describe in children clear up quickly
with added A as well as B-complex.  It is important to monitor the
Vitamin A as it can  be toxic in too large a dose.  A good regime is
25,000 I.U. a day, for three months, then 10,000 for a month, then back
to 25,000 for three months. (ages 8 and up)  After symptoms abate you
can just make sure that they take a good complete multi-vitamin/mineral
pill/liquid daily.

I would strongly urge you to add yogurt and or kefir to their daily
diet, making sure it has active cultures. (read label or make your own) 


I would also recommend cutting sugar way down as these empty calories
quickly fill up children so that they are less likely to eat the foods
that are good for them.  deb

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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Denise,

I will be looking for both when I can get to the HFS.

Thanks,
G Murray

Denise Every wrote:

I'll second this... and will also mention that I noticed it being sold 
in a cream form at a local HFS the other day, it might be worth a try 
as well as taking it orally.


Denise


- Original Message - From: TC tcj...@yahoo.ca


You mentioned cold sores or canker sores. Both these
respond to generous quantities (5-10,000 mg/day) of
lysine, an amino acid.





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Re: CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Denise Again,

Yes, we have been trying to get the EFA's in.  I have been researching 
all these things.   They do take a multi-vit and  and a product called 
Bio-Silver. A sea vegetable product by Vita Plus out of Las Vegas.  


G Murray

Denise Every wrote:

I'm wondering if there might be some nutritional imbalance/deficiency 
here, whether it is vitamin, mineral, or essential fatty acids I 
couldn't say, but would be inclined to think EFAs first... I don't 
know what you've researched in terms of nutrition, or what their 
complete diets entail, obviously, but am just posing the suggestion to 
maybe try to see if it could be something they're missing in their diet.


Lots of fruits and veggies can be good, but could also be too much of 
a good thing, for example, if it is displacing needed proteins and 
fats.  Growing kids in particular really need essential fatty acids 
for their brain growth, these are the omega 3's... if for example they 
are on a lower fat kind of diet, they might not be getting enough of 
the fat-soluble vitamins, A, E, D, and K.  Again, I don't know if they 
are or not, am just suggesting these as possible avenues to explore 
for causes.


Denise


These kids can be doing relatively normal things and big blister 
like spots (quarter size or larger)will come off  and leave a very raw 
spot for weeks.  Right now they only have smaller peeling around the 
finger tips but even some of
that looks like it is getting deep. The one most plagued with canker 
sores seems to eat pretty healthy lots  of fruit and veggies.   They 
both of them have had the red sandpaper type skin every year right 
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CSkids with skin peeling

[G K Murray]

Hi Everyone,

What would cause skin to constantly peel around the finger tips palms 
and soles of feet?


Is there other causes than fungal implications?

My children have been plagued with this problem for a long time.  I have 
thought about diet but their diets are about as night and day as they 
can be.  I have a 9 yr old daughter that loves all things carbohydrate 
and sugar and salmon.  The other, 8yr old son, could care less about 
sweets and loves fruit, vegies, bones ( his version of any meat on the 
bone) and muffins.  A Fairly healthy eater.   I do suspect candida with 
the one, the other can eat till the cow comes home and won't seem to 
gain an ounce.The son seems to have some nasal problems and both 
have a bad rash usually every winter all over their backs.  Dry little 
red bumps, almost like a fine sand paper.  My son's hair does not grow 
hardly at all.  It seems to be agravated by the laundry soap so we have 
been trying different soaps but may have to resort to what they uses as 
a body wash in the bath ( Soft Soap aloe vera)  Seems to be the only  
thing they doesn't react to.Amway's  LOC  does good, too, but I 
don't have a supplier for that any more. 

My son seems to always suffer from canker soars in his mouth.  Right now 
they both  have a form of cold sore.  My daughter's lower lip burst out 
with a huge one or several all together, and my son has a form of one 
that keeps popping out on his nose every 3-4 months.  The Dr. says that 
he needs to use some real expensive anti - viral salve on it but he just 
soaks it with colloidal silver and it seems to take away the infection 
right away.  but they still take several days to go away. 

A I am going to see if they will soak their hands in some H2O2 but not 
sure how long they will have to soak.   They use Colloidal Silver for 
almost all that hurts.  They are very good about asking for it.  I will 
see if it will clear it up, but I am interested to get to the root of 
the problem.  I am thinking maybe trying an intestinal cleanse and some 
liver cleanses, but not sure how to proceed with children at this age.


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CS

[G K Murray]

http://capwiz.com/nnfa/issues/


  

  
  


  
   
  Don't
Let Congress Limit Your Access to Dietary Supplements 

  



John_hm Draper wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  Hi Nenah,
  
  I'm trying to
find info
directly mentioning CODEX at this site:
  
  http://capwiz.com/nnfa/home/
  
  I found other
issues, but
not CODEX. How do you find info on CODEX on this site?
  
  Thanks,
  
  John
  
  
  -Original
Message-
  From: Nenah
Sylver [mailto:ne...@bestweb.net]
  Sent: Saturday,
February 26,
2005 2:38 PM
  To:
"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@bestweb.net
  Subject: CSa
website
that makes it EASY for you to send a message regarding CODEX
  
  A friend sent me
a link to
the National Nutritional Foods Assoc Web Site.
  
  They have a great
database
engine for helping you send a message to your representatives
concerning CODEX.
  
  http://capwiz.com/nnfa/home/
  
  It's easy to use
and you can
customize your message. The advice that's going around says -- send a
very simple message:
  
  Vote No on Codex
  I want my
Vitamins
  
  You can also
choose e-mail or
fax. I'd recommend fax, since e-mail is easy to delete.
  
  
  
  

Re: CSSwelling under tongue

[G K Murray]

A swollen lymph node?
Gargle with CS and spit it out if he wont swallow.  Use some collostrum 
to help his immune system.


G Murray

Theresa Widmer wrote:


Hello all--
  I have a question: My husband [who will nebulize with CS, but not 
drink it out of concerns about it being toxic to the nervous system] 
has just slightly recovered from a virus.  This morning he woke up 
with quite a bit of swelling  and tenderness under his tongue.  I can 
feel, under his chin, an area that is hard and swollen, also.  We are 
totally confused as to what this might be.  Neither he or I have ever 
seen or heard of anything like it.  Any ideas?
 
Thanks!

Theresa



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CSRe:CScathode/anode question

[G K Murray]

 I hope this clears this up some: )


   How to Define Anode and Cathode

   * Definition http://www.av8n.com/physics/anode-cathode.htm#i-def:
 The anode of a device is the terminal where current flows in. The
 cathode of a device is the terminal where current flows out.

   * Our definition applies easily and correctly to every situation I
 can think of (with one execrable exception, as discussed below
 http://www.av8n.com/physics/anode-cathode.htm#i-zener). Good
 examples you might have heard of include cathode-ray tubes, the
 cathode/grid/plate in an amplifier tube, the rotating anode in an
 Xray tube, common-anode LED arrays, and the sacrificial anode on a
 boat.

   * Ours is the original, time-honored definition. It is consistent
 with the Greek roots ανα- and κατα-. There is no other sensible
 definition. I’ve seen several attempts at definitions, but unless
 they were equivalent to our definition
 http://www.av8n.com/physics/anode-cathode.htm#i-def, they were
 grotesquely overcomplicated, wrong, or both.

   * For the vast majority of people, there is no point in memorizing
 the meaning of anode and cathode. The terms just aren’t very
 useful, unless you get a job in an electrochemistry laboratory or
 some comparably narrow specialty. If some day you do need to know
 the meanings, you can look them up that morning and forget them
 again that evening.

   * Note that when we say current-in, we mean current flowing into the
 device from the external circuit. Similarly when we say
 current-out, we mean current flowing out of the device toward the
 external circuit. We are treating the device as a black box, and
 we are not talking about whatever currents flow within the device.
 This black-box terminology is standard in all branches of
 engineering and science, unless the context clearly requires
 otherwise.

   * To avoid misconceptions, remember that the anode/cathode
 distinction is based on current, not voltage. Anode/cathode is not
 the same as positive/negative or vice versa. Illustrative example:
 for a battery being discharged, the positive terminal is the
 cathode, while for the same battery being recharged, the positive
 terminal is the anode.

Bottom line: Anode/cathode means current-in/current out.

Dan Nave wrote:


Everything that I've ever seen defines the anode as the positive
electrode...

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Re: CSLiver, Kidney and Gall Stones

[G K Murray]

Hi Garnet,

I use the same liver flush except with grapefruit juice. I think the
grapefruit juce hides the taste of the olive oil better. They also say
to mix the epsom salts with some grapefruit juce as it will taste a
whole lot better as well. 

There are softening agents that can be had. Malic acids (apples or
supplement form), Chanca Piedra (Phyllanthus niruri, amarus), Stone
Free (brand - Plantary Formula), and JULIA CHANG's chinese herbs:
1) CHINESE GENTIAN  BUPLEURUM ("CHINESE BITTERS") -- Used for a month before a cleansing to decongest the liver and to increase the energy flow through it. 
2) COPTIS-- To stimulate bile flow. Good if the gb has been taken out.
3) GOLD COIN GRASS--To "soften and crush" the stones prior to a cleansing. Also used with CORN SILK for kidney stone disolution. 
4) CURCUMA--- Used  with GCG to increase the energy flow through the liver and gb.
Good luck with the cleansing. Oh yah, I'm sure if you swallow some CS
after the liver starts to dump that it will kill and any bad bugs that
may be hiding in the bile dump. Just to stay on topic of course. : )

G Murray

Garnet wrote:

  When the topic of Cardioclear and IP6 came up for prostate hypertrophy
and iron chelation I did some reading about them. The thought that they
might help with liver, kidney and gallstones was affirmed by what I
read.

I have wanted to do the cleanse for these stones with epsom salt, olive
oil and lemon, but have not gotten around to to. I believe I will try
these chelating agents first, could make the cleanse a bit easier, less
stones to clear?

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Re: CSSinus update

[G K Murray]

Did you find that they helped the asthma?

G Murray

brick...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
  Yes, I did liver flushes every two weeks for about two years.
Each liver flush still removed 300 stones except for several where I
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Re: CSSinus update

[G K Murray]

Yes I can attest to that, as I do not have a gallbladder and have passed 
many stones.  They are made in the bile from cholesterol and other 
foreign bodies (parasites and liver cells sloughed off), so the bile in 
the liver will make stones if the conditions are right.  I just did a 
liver flush not 48 hours ago and got a lot of smaller stones down to 
sand size.  I have performed 7-8 flushes since the first of July with 
great results each time. 


G Murray

Adrienne Elliott wrote:


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Re: CS99.9 % silver rods

[G K Murray]

Hi Marshalee,

I am still on the same set of wires that you sent me back in 1999.   I 
don't make CS every day, but the kids hollor for it at any sign of an 
infection.  I think mine are about half the size of when I received 
them.   I rotate them as well.   I am wondering do you still sell the 
wires as I would like some back up pairs.


G Murray
P.S. A Canadian buyer


mamapug wrote:

Unless you switch them around all the time, like I do. 
Maybe that is why I`m on my 4th year with these wires...

Marshalee


 

 





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Re: CSwhite swollen knuckles

[G K Murray]

How was your CS made?

G Murray

Adrienne Elliott wrote:


I stopped taking it for 6 mos. and started again and they started
getting bigger again so I stopped. I have to find the man who told me
about CS, he knows how to get rid of it. Even my Dr. didn't believe me.
But it happened. It might have something to do with my being a strict
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Re: CSSinus update

[G K Murray]

Hi Brickey,

Have you tried liver flushes. They are supposed to really help with
asthma and other allergy type reactions including sinus infections. It
may not be gallstones so much as just a build up of toxins that make
the asthma and sinus problems creep up. My husband has very acute
symptoms when his asthma hits and feels like his sinus passages are
draining and they choke him up down the back of his throat as well of
having his chest tighten up. He has started doing the liver flush with
results but it may take several before enough toxins are past. He has
only had a few episodes this past year where he was having bad ones
every couple of days even every couple hours.

G Murray


brick...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
  
  My asthma and Barrettes Esophagus are both still here. I was
hoping that clearing my sinus would also clear those problems. I
believe it may take another year of flushing to note improvements in
the other problems, and like my sinus DR said I need to keep flushing
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Re: CSGSE

[G K Murray]

Grapefriut Seed Extract. Please don't confuse this with Grapeseed
extract!

It is a great antibacterialcide, virucide, and fungicide. I have used
it internally for yeast infections, but it does burn when used in the
sinuses. You have to be careful not to use too much. It has a bitter
taste, but I did not notice it when I drank it with my greens drink
each day. 

G Murray

bbanever wrote:

  
  
  
  Ken,
  
   May I ask what GSE is?
  
  
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Re: CS4 cc?

[G K Murray]

4cc = 0.1352561 oz.
4cc = 4ml

better to go get a syringe from a pharmacy or a vet supply like Garnet 
said. 


TC wrote:


Richard said:
The CS is already made and at the end of generating,
I add 4 cc H2O2 3%

Can you convert 4 cc to oz for me?

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Re: CSFasting

[G K Murray]

Hi,

While I'm not putting down water fasts, as I have not gotten up the 
gumption yet to do this, I have been following the Master Cleanser by 
Stanley Burroughs.  It is not quite the same as a water fast, but in my 
mind accomplishes almost the same end results with maybe a few more 
benefits.  It is a lemonade drink of lemon juice, grade C maple syrup 
and tiniest pinch of cayenne pepper in pure water. The lemon cleans out 
the system and alkalinizes the body.  The maple syrup provides all the 
nutrients the body needs for sustenance as well as sweetening.   The 
cayenne pepper also cleans the mucous out and is a very good blood 
cleanser.  Nothing else except for the nightly lax tea and morning 
internal salt water flush is ingested during this time.  It really does 
give the digestive system a rest and pushes the toxins out.


This can be done for 40 days with little ill effect for people who have 
accomplished this time frame, but is also very beneficial for 10 day 
cleanses which I have done previously and for shorter 2-5 day cleanses 
which I also have been doing ever couple of weeks.  I believe it has 
helped me most beneficially by alkalinizing my body, in which a lot of 
symptoms seemed to have cleared up, like psoriasis and metal allergies 
liver problems.  I have also done 1-2 liver cleanses with each MC.


I have only felt better and better while doing this type of cleanse.  I 
am on my feet at work running constantly and have never had a lack of 
energy at all.  I may be an exception, but there are support groups that 
will help keep one on track while experiencing these fasts or cleanses.  


G Murray

P.S. I also ingest my daily allotment of silver but do so after the 
nightly tea. 


scl...@netzero.net wrote:


Fasting if done properly gives the body a chance to get rid of toxins stored in 
the liver, kidneys, skin, etc Transitioning slowly from solid food to juice to 
water is preferable so the body can adjust. There is a lot of info about it on 
curezone.com
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Re: CSpeirced ears

[G K Murray]

I tried pierced earings for several months they never healed at all. I
tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse. I was
putting earings through and more or less having to find a new hole
because of the swelling. I found nylon earings and tried them but by
that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave
up and tried to let them grow in. Now I have holes front and back
with a large amount of scar tissue in the middle. I had hoped the
nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed to
get better until I took them right out. That was many years ago before
I know of SC. I can not tolerate any metal much but have not tried
anything expensive. I have trouble with the backs of watches as well.
I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel will
make me break out. 

G Murray

elle roberts wrote:

  
  
  My daughter has peirced ears, when they get inflammed she is
afraid to use CS to help the inflamation ... thisis because we have
learned not to use a metal spoon etc. to ingest CS. She thinks the CS
will react some way with the sterling silver earings. Can anybody tell
me if this is correct? Otherwise, I would like her to use it. It
seems an ongoing problem.
  Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.
  elle.
  
  

  
  
  
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Re: CSpeirced ears

[G K Murray]

Hi Garnet,

You maybe right about the acidity. I went on the Master Cleanse
(lemonade sweetened with maple syrup) for 10 days the first of July and
have never felt better. I'm sure I had change my body's Ph. The spot
under my watch clear up since then as well. It was always made worse
with sweat. All my metal sensitivities have been made worse by sweat.
I still get some sore spots where my glasses touch. I have nail polish
on these spots and it helps until it flakes off. I'm probably not
making it any better by using the nail polish as I'm probably getting a
lot of toxins from that too. I need a safe alternative that's not
going to cost $650.00 like the new Titanium frames with the appropriate
lenses. : ( 

I have been doing mini cleanses every 2-3 weeks for 3-5 days with this
lemonade and the health benefits have just been compounding. I have
lost 30 lb. over all and fit into clothes that I could not fit in for
about 9 years. I have also been doing a liver flush with each cleanse
and no longer feel tired after eating and the pain to my shoulder blade
and under arm has disappeared as well as the chronic diarrhea I've had
since the disappearance of my gallbladder 7 years ago. 

I suggest that this is a good cleanse for ay one wanting to detoxify.
Even just adding a lemonade a day to alkalinize the body.

Garnet wrote:

  Is your system possibly too acidic? Alkalinizing your system is
important to health if you tend to be too acidic due to diet, stress or
genetics.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 11:35, G  K Murray wrote:
  
  
I tried pierced earrings for several months they never healed at all. 
I tried the alcohol and peroxide, but it kept getting worse.   I was
putting earrings through and more or less having to find a new hole
because of the swelling.  I found nylon earrings and tried them but by
that time the infection seemed to have such a strong hold I just gave
up and tried to let them grow in.   Now I have holes front and back
with a large amount of scar  tissue in the middle.  I had hoped the
nylon would have eventually made things better but they never seemed
to get better until I took them right out.  That was many years ago
before I know of SC.  I can not tolerate any metal much but have not
tried anything expensive.  I have trouble with the backs of watches as
well.  I always have to look for plastic backs as even stainless steel
will make me break out.   

G Murray

elle roberts wrote:


  My daughter has peirced ears,  when they get inflammed she is afraid
to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have
learned not to use a metal spoon etc.  to ingest CS.  She thinks the
CS will react some way with the sterling silver earings.  Can
anybody tell me if this is correct?  Otherwise,  I would like her to
use it.  It seems an ongoing problem.

Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help.

elle.



 




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Re: CSpeirced ears

[G K Murray]

Hi Sol,

Like Garnet said the body in an acid state may be the culprit.  As I 
alkalinized my body it seemed to have gotten better.   Watches are the 
only jewelry piece I have worn since the ear piercing.   I have usually 
worn plastic frames but went with metal this last set or two.   I'll 
have to try Garnets other suggestion for aquarium silicone, that might 
also help, as the nail polish only lasts a few days before it flakes off.


G Murray

sol wrote:

This sounds like classic nickel allergy. I have it and react to all 
the same things. I can wear 14 kt gold (yellow gold, I react to some 
white gold) and I can wear sterling silver, but only if the entire 
earring is sterling, and no other metal or alloy touches me at all. 
The backs of watches bother me too.And sometimes the clasp of a 
sterling necklace or the attachment rings to the clasp will be alloys 
to which I am allergic.  I have to make sure my eyeglasses have only 
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Re: CSGatorade (homemade) and CS results

[G K Murray]

Hi Sol,

I think the reason that you would not add salt to the start of your cs 
batch is the chloride that is with the sodium, making silver chloride, 
which is bad.  I have never really heard of the sodium causing bad 
effects.  Now, I don't know if gatorade has chloride in it I have never 
checked.


G Murray

sol wrote:

But, but.gatorade has salt...so one is in effect adding 
salt to CS. Though perhaps adding salt after the CS is made is 
different than adding salt to DW before making CS?

sol

nancymike wrote:


The electrolytes in the Gatorade will help enhance the CS.
There were some comparisons made awhile back, check the archives.
   Never mix CS with citrus, that would include orange juice or
concentrate.and never add salt to CS.
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Re: CSDMSO

[G K Murray]

I would like to know as well.  We don't have a lot of race horses out 
here and I get funny looks when I ask for it.


G Murray

Nessie wrote:
Does anyone know a Canadian supplier  for DMSO... I see that  
Peakequine.com no longer

lists it.. Need it badly for friend who needs to enhance the cs effect.??

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Re: CSjust us chickens...

[G K Murray]

Hi John,

By candling them, in otherwords hold them up to a light, in the dark.  
You can see a blood spot if the eggs is a few days old. 


G Murray

John Rigby wrote:



Big Q:   How do you tell a fertilised egg without cracking it??

Himagain - looking at having to learn a whole new ballgame.. sigh





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Re: CStheLEDman.com site is down??

[G K Murray]

http://www.theledman.net/works with netscape



Douglas Haack wrote:


Dear Silver Listers,

Many kind S/Listers responded to my request of the theLEDman.com email
address.
 





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CSUterine Fibroids

[G K Murray]

My sister is diagnosed with a growing uterine fibroid.  They tell her 
now it is the size of a 4 month pregnancy.  What types of therapies are 
used in this type of malady.  She is just turned 45 years old and has 
been to see  a naturopath a few times and I'm not sure what she has 
tried.  but is open to suggestions.


G Murray




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Re: CScomputer virii and worms - going OT

[G K Murray]

Hey marshal I'm taking this to the OT list.  It really doesn't concern CS.

G Murray

Marshall Dudley wrote:

How does adware get on your computer?  I have Norton installed, and it 
has never poped up saying that it found a virus or worm trying to get 
on my system.  I have a spam blocker on my server which gets rid of a 
lot of them, and use Netscape for my mail, and never open any 
attachments.  I use Netscape as my browser, and any time I do have to 
use IE, I do not have Vbasic installed on my system.


I also have Zone alarm on my system. Am I missing something?

Marshall





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Re: CScomputer virii and worms

[G K Murray]

Hi Bill,

It's funny you should mention it, as I seem to have the same problem 
when I run Norton Internet Security during a full scan.  It seems to be 
working to protect the machine and I can do daily virus updates but It 
wont do a full system scan saying I'm out of virtual memory.  Something 
seems to be working in the background to slow it down.  I have run other 
virus scans from different webbed based sites and they say it is clear.  
I'm curious as to what you find out. 

I do know that Zonealarm interferes with almost any security program or 
firewall, and sometimes mail programs.


G Murray

William Missett wrote:


Chuck:

I'm running Trend Micro.  Can you run it with Grisoft, Zone Alarm, etc. at
the same time?

At the moment, I have difficulty running Scandisk because of interference
from other running programs, when none are open.  Beats me.

Thanks,  Bill

- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: CScomputer virii and worms


 


Bet you're running anti virus software now, huh?

If not, or need a GOOD FREE one that auto magically updates, I Use
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php
The free edition is at http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

In addition, a firewall will keep hackers away.
Zone Alarm is one of the best. A free version is at


   


http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/trial_zaFamily/trial_zaFamily.jsp?lid=2home_freedownloads
 


A text-based newsreader is a lot safer than a web browser.
HTML is for the clueless...
I use Agent, it's the best.
A free version (Freeagent)is available at
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/support.php

That's pretty much all you need besides common sense.
Remember, safe hex!!!
Chuck
BTW, your messed up drive couldn't be reformatted?
That's the usual fix.


Two  cannibals are eating a clown.
 One says to the other: Does this   taste  funny to you?

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:51:17 -0700 (PDT), Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com
wrote:

   


  Recently I passed by my computer monitor. The screen was blue and it
 


said rewriting line so and so and then another and another, etc.   After
this, the poor thing was so messed up no amount of restoring the system did
much good.  So we wound up with a new hard drive, a lighter wallet, and no
saved messages or favorites.  I suppose it was a worm or virus of some sort.
I don't think the lines of code (I presume it was code--only thing I know of
that goes with 'lines of') would be rewritten otherwise.  I am continuing to
get attachments with emails that I report to yahoo as spam and of course
don't open.  Most of them say 41, but sometimes 40, as the size.  I get 5 or
6 such messages a day sometimes.  So I guess we are under assault here.  I
will try to get my son to use Firefox or Opera or something else as the Big
M has so many holes I also doubt they can ever fix it.  Too, too bad.  Can
it be possible that the 'powers that be' don't even want us to have internet
access!
 


?!
   


?
Nothing would really surprise me as I have read a lot of history books.
 


pj
 



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Re: CSWhat is GSE?

[G K Murray]

Grapefruit Seed Extract

Phinneas wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSPaul and nasal fungus


 


Garnet wrote:

   


If you do use GSE just be sure you are not allergic to Benzalkonium
Chloride (aka Nonoxynol and other names) which is used as a
 


preservative
 


in many GSE products. It causes allergic reactions in some people.
 


It is
 


also the spermicide in many jellies and used in dry clean carpet
processes.
 


Allergic is hardly the name for it.  It gives me a pain like someone
   


has
 


stabbed me with a hot poker whenever I come in contact with it.
   


Horrible
 


stuff!

Marshall
   




Pardon my ignorance, please, but what is GSE?
Phinneas



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Re: CSMozilla

[G K Murray]

Is mozilla another version of Netscape?  As I have tried Mozilla briefly 
and sit looks just like netscape and it used all my netscape preferences 
and mail as well.


Is Mozilla better than Netscape?

john rigby wrote:


At 05:37 AM 19/07/04, Trem wrote:

Can't tell you how bummed out I am over Mozilla.  Went through all 
the hoops of
setting up my mail accounts and passwords, etc.  Took a lot of time 
to get it all
tested and to make sure it was operating OK.  Then used Import to 
bring all my
mailboxes over from outlook Express and it all seemed to work OK.  
Greatsaid I.



Hi Trem,  not having used Outlook Express since my early training in 
what you could do to it, years ago, I haven't had that problem - just 
trashed a carefully built-up scenario when I didn't read the 
destructions about deleting an earlier version of Moz first!
At least it taught me how much rubbish I had accumulated and could 
well do without! :-)


Did you query the support group on it?
I do seem to recall you have to/had to setup one master account first??

Cheers,

Him - not game to use anything else but Moz and Eudora.  


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