[SLUG] Integration testing
Hi there, If you're not a developer, you can ignore the rest of this post... Just wondering what people are using for integration testing their applications (should they write them). We're evaluating tellurium (groovy-based) which is another base-metal like sellenium (used by a lot of places). We currently use Selenium, our issues are that it doesn't handle complex javascript interactions with any degree of grace. Particularly the dojo toolkit that we use. I've also heard windmill is good if you're a python-leaning developer. Any experience out there with writing complex tests on top of javascript web UI applications? I'd love to know where others have trod. -- Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Dedicated Server hosting in California - anyone with experience?
Hi there, It's been quite a while since my last post to slug so here goes... We're hosting a company on linux using cari.net in California. Does anyone have experience with dedicated server hosting over there? Good prices, options they have tried. We would love to find a trustworthy an reliable server builder company with access to a colo that I could work with to install a server similar to our configs in AU. Cari.net seems like a bit of a ripoff. TIA -- Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn SLUG, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. -Stuart Learn more: https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/329485987/df5Z0iGz/ -- (c) 2008, LinkedIn Corporation -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Colour Printer recommendations please
Hi Bill We just got a $800 kyocera 5015 (not counting duplex capacity). It's great and cost per copy is low. Ubuntu recognised it but I had to pick a similar Kyocera driver which worked well. HTH Stuart On Nov 23, 2007 11:01 AM, bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a trusty old monochrome Canon BJ230 which does me for day to day monochrome printing, and I have a Brother DCP-115C multifunction center which is giving me the sh*ts. It prints sometimes but ink cartridges never seem to last and I'm always getting messages on the mfc's LCD re an ink cartridge being empty. This has even happened with new cartridges. I don't print in colour much, but with the proliferation of Gov't ( in particular) and other info available in ,pdf format, and the fact that these are usually in colour ( copies of actual docs, look good on screen but don't print legibly on monochrome) I occassionally need a colour printer. Can anybody recommend a reasonably cheap ( including replacement cartridges) readily available printer that just works. Does not need to produce photo-quality prints but must handle A4. I'm running various Kubuntu distros as well as LinuxMint. Thanks Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] feedback sought on rrd monitoring apps
Your other option would be ganglia which we have deployed on a cluster here. It's great. It's used by wikipedia and flikr, oh and us!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganglia_(software) This is the ganglia monitor at wikipedia... http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/ Also, it's easy to setup. Once you get it, it's 15 mins per machine. HTH Stuart On Nov 22, 2007 5:39 PM, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, November 21, 2007 12:03 pm, Dean Hamstead wrote: cacti with snmp? not sure if thats what you're after? Dean, thanks, that looks good everything fine, except, I have no graphs... the host is there with standard default monitor items.. dumb question...: do I need to run the cacti-spine from cron?? # ./spine SPINE: Using spine config file [../etc/spine.conf] SPINE: Version 0.8.7 starting SPINE: Time: 0.1983 s, Threads: 1, Hosts: 2 -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Networking weighting problems
Hi list We're trying to a 'weight' to pipe traffic through two channels to the internet from an office. This is our route info: # ip route list 192.231.203.132 via 192.168.4.254 dev eth0 61.8.0.113 via 192.168.4.1 dev eth0 192.168.4.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.4.2 192.168.3.0/24 dev eth2 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.3.1 192.168.2.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.1 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.1 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.1 default nexthop via 192.168.4.1 dev eth0 weight 1 nexthop via 192.168.4.254 dev eth0 weight 3 We were thinking, having RTFMed, that the traffic going thru 192.168.4.1 is three times of that going to 192.168.4.254. but it seems all the traffic is going to 192.168.4.1. Java being our forte, we were wondering if there was an org.iproute.node.setWeightMultiplier() method call or something? Just kidding, perhaps there is something we are missing? Any help mucho appreciado. Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SSL Certs - opinion on Digicert?
We're looking for wildcard SSL certs. I was wondering if anyone has used this mob? http://www.digicert.com/welcome/wildcard-plus.htm Good/bad experience? Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RegEx question
Thanks everyone for some great help. I thought there might be a couple of regex gurus out there! Stuart On Nov 9, 2007 5:42 PM, Roger Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ Is there a constraint requiring that this be done with a single regex? Depending on the context, there might be a number of more suitable programmatic approaches. For example, an unfinished, untested, inefficient, slapped together bash/grep approach might look like this, without getting tangled in regex syntax... password='a1#' hitcount=0 if $( echo $password | grep -q [A-Za-z] ); then echo Got alpha; let hitcount = $hitcount + 1; fi # Repeat for numeric and special chars # Check $hitcount == 2 or $hitcount = 2, depending on your requirements - Rog -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] DOJO Toolkit 1.0 Training course 6-8 Feb 2008
Hi everyone, checked and OKed by slug committee, as it should be Dojo hit 1.0 a couple of weeks ago. It is a great toolkit (we use 0.4 currently) for building rich web apps. I chatted to the sitepen folks and they are keen to get a course going downunder! Currently they are only running the courses in London and Silicon Valley. The link is: http://www.sitepen.com/training.php?eventId=27 In case you cannot be bothered clicking through: Topics Covered: * Dojo Base and Dojo Core * Dijit * DojoX * Dojo Utilities APIs and development issues discussed include: * Ajax * Events * DOM, query, and behavior * Effects * Data providers and Wire * RPC and JSONP * Custom Dijit Development * dojo.declare and other advanced JavaScript language constructs * Declarative vs. programmatic instantiation * Vector graphics and charting * Cometd * Localization and accessibility * Performance profiling, testing, optimization, and packaging * Creating great user experience with Dojo Note: Course runs 3 days, you need intermediate or expert javascript skills and you will need to BYOL (bring your own laptop). /checked and OKed by slug committee, as it should be Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RegEx question
Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ Best regards Stuart Guthrie Director Polonious Pty Ltd (w) http://www.polonious.com.au (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Hotmail blocking emails
Hi there, I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed anything in case it's a general tightening of something at hotmail. We just got 40 bounces (550s) from hotmail.com. Nothing's changed here. We've checked all the usual suspects (dns/mta) but mail is going everywhere else OK. As usual the bounce-reply is non-specific and points to a general, vague support page. Q: If you start getting bounces from a particular mob, what MTA/spam list checkers to you use to see if you've broken some rule? ATB Stu Director Polonious Pty Ltd (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Disk doctor needed
I think I sent this yesterday so I'm wondering why it never made the list. One of the guys who regularly attends slug meetings is a disk doctor and I can't remember his name. If it is you or you know him, could you get him to contact me on the numbers below or via email. Cheers big ears Stuart Director Polonious Pty Ltd (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Looking for the French Disk Doctor!!
Hi there, It's been a while. I have a potential client for one of the guys who regularly attends slug meetings. I am very sorry to have forgotten your name but, if you would like to contact me via email, there is a client of ours who has a broken hdd and wants to recover the data. Just thought it would be nice to refer him on to a slugger. ATB Stuart Director Polonious Pty Ltd (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open source document/content management system
I'd add a vote for alfresco. For more informal stuff, maybe a wiki. Xwiki for example. Stu On 4/11/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I have a real live project to handle and I'd like to do it using an open source solution. The o/s is MS, unfortunately. My challenge is to come up with a user friendly solution that'll store various policy and procedural snipits that have been used in the past for management, project, marketing manuals as well as documents to satisfy various iso standards which in a lot of places are duplicated and/or hard to find or search for. The governing directive is that these snipits be easily edited/updated and be able to reform as the original documents and be capable of forming new manuals. I hope I've stated the case clearly but feel free to query. Your suggestions/comments will be gratefully received. TIA John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Director Polonious Pty Ltd (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Memory profiler for web applications and other processes.
Dtrace? Just kidding. I'm interested in this answer too. We have similar probs. but between PHP/Apache and Apache Tomcat. Stu Director Polonious Pty Ltd (m) 0403 470 123 Polonious Support Numbers: Sydney: 61-2-9007-9842 Chicago: 1-312-212-3952 This above all: to thine ownself be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to use wget when username contains a @
What about the --http-user= option? man wget --http-user=user HTH Stu On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 18:22 +1000, Grant Parnell - slug wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Michael Kraus wrote: G'day... I'm wanting to retrieve some files of a web server using wget. Unfortunately though the username contains a @ symbol, and the man for wget indicates that the way to do what I want would be to: wget -r ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dir/file However, the username contains a @ Well it's going to be some form of escaping... maybe \@ or %40 -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - SLUG President EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.elx.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and everythinglinux.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs or email us at paidsupport at elx.com.au ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
It's probably more realistic to say that all other things (interest rates, exit fees, lending amounts) being equal, someone looking to do business with a bank should avoid St George. But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
I hope the just switch banks then suggestion won't apepar in every thread though. I think it is useful and important to let banks and providors know that if they are not up to scratch, they will lose business. As such, I think mentioning the 'switch' alternative is more relevant is some of the posts. Also - certainly switching banks is, for many people 'really easy' and in the case of St George much easier than getting their poxy interface working. Stu On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 15:35, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? I have no idea who wouldn't, but I wouldn't call such a decision really easy as you did in your initial post. Alas, these considerations mean that the latest way to use St George Internet banking with Linux may be with us for some time. I hope the just switch banks then suggestion won't apepar in every thread though. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Backing up before a major reorg on a laptop
Hi there Firstly merry Xmas to one and all, thanks for your advice over the year and I hope mine hasn't lead to too many disk reformats! I'm about to re-jig my laptop which due to client needs has Linux on one partion and winXP on another. I'm going to back the whole thing up to my server before starting. I was wondering what the best technique to use is to ensure all partions, boot thingys and secret 'ibm restore' partions all make successfully. I've got a thinkpad X31 if that helps. I'm thinking dd which I have never used but I'm concerned that on restore of partions 'doze will fail to boot if I don't get everything - I mean everything backed up in the correct manner. Any thoughts multo appreciato. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] calendar app -- terminal
lynx www.egroupware.org ? ie, check if the web versions of the various cal apps work in lynx...? Stu On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a calendar app that runs in an xterm window, I am aware of ical, are there any others that I should be aware of? tia, Luke -- / / _ /_ /_/ / /= 0421 276 282 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] 2.6.5 Aironet detection
Hi any hardware heads, I've an intermittent issue with a tinkpad where some mornings it comes up fine, finds it's eth0/eth1/eth2 and others its just stuffed. I fix it by booting into windows then back to linux. Don't ask me why this works but it does! I guess I'm asking, who to send this to? It seems a combo of lots of things, mainly hardware detection gone wrong. It's 2.6.5 kernel, mdk. I've attached the two dmesg boot start bits. There is an obvious diff between them: --diff stuffedAironet.dmesg.log thisAironetStartWorked.dmesg.log 35c35 Detected 1398.891 MHz processor. --- Detected 1399.235 MHz processor. 63,64c63,64 . CPU clock speed is 1398.0605 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 99.0900 MHz. --- . CPU clock speed is 1398.0599 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 99.0899 MHz. 230a231,232 ip1394: $Rev: 1175 $ Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ip1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0) 234c236 eth0: :02:08.0, 00:0D:60:80:14:29, IRQ 11. --- eth1: :02:08.0, 00:0D:60:80:14:29, IRQ 11. 247c249 airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:2:8a:e2:3b:8 --- airo: MAC enabled eth2 0:2:8a:e2:3b:8 279c281 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49622 usecs --- intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49623 usecs 293a296 icmpv6: msg of unknown type 306a310 eth2: no IPv6 routers present The dmesg when it fails is this: cat stuffedAironet.dmesg.log Linux version 2.6.5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 (Mandrake Linux 10.0 3.3.2 -6mdk)) #1 Fri Apr 23 22:36:53 EST 2004 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009f000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009f000 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000d2000 - 000d4000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000dc000 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 2ff6 (usable) BIOS-e820: 2ff6 - 2ff78000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 2ff78000 - 2ff7a000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 2ff8 - 3000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: ff80 - 0001 (reserved) 767MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 196448 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 192352 pages, LIFO batch:16 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI present. IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls. IBM machine detected. Disabling SMBus accesses. ACPI: RSDP (v002 IBM ) @ 0x000f6b40 ACPI: XSDT (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 LTP 0x) @ 0x2ff6b67d ACPI: FADT (v003 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 IBM 0x0001) @ 0x2ff6b700 ACPI: SSDT (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 MSFT 0x010e) @ 0x2ff6b8b4 ACPI: ECDT (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 IBM 0x0001) @ 0x2ff77e0c ACPI: TCPA (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 PTL 0x0001) @ 0x2ff77e5e ACPI: BOOT (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 LTP 0x0001) @ 0x2ff77fd8 ACPI: DSDT (v001 IBMTP-1Q0x2040 MSFT 0x010e) @ 0x ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=EurekaIT_(2.6.5) ro root=306 devfs=mount ac pi=ht resume=/dev/hda7 splash=silent PROFILE=eurekait Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 32768 bytes) Detected 1398.891 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Memory: 773908k/785792k available (1771k kernel code, 11124k reserved, 790k data , 268k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay loop... 2777.08 BogoMIPS Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 130k freed CPU: After generic identify, caps: a7e9fbbf CPU: After vendor identify, caps: a7e9fbbf CPU: L1 I cache: 32K, L1 D cache: 32K CPU: L2 cache: 1024K CPU: After all inits, caps: a7e9fbbf 0040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz stepping 05 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: ESR value after enabling vector: Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... . CPU clock speed is 1398.0605 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 99.0900 MHz. NET: Registered protocol family 16 EISA bus registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd8d6, last bus=8 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux
[SLUG] CSS book
About a month or two ago I asked for good CSS books. Thanks again for the input. The one I selected was: designing with web standards author: jeffery zeldman It's excellent if you're looking for something similar. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Are remote X sessions (XDMCP) reconnectable?
That sounds more like VNC. I think Gnome can do something like this now. KDE since a year or so ago. Is this what you mean? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6553 Stu On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 12:58, Simon Wong wrote: Afternoon all! I want to be able to connect to a server running X and GDM, login, do some stuff and then be able to disconnect and reconnect at a later stage (like Citrix Metaframe allows you to do) with my applications, xterms etc still running. Is this possible with GDM and XDMCP or will I get a new session everytime I connect to GDM? I want to be able to get a whole desktop rather than just X forwarding of applications. -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wongy.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Are remote X sessions (XDMCP) reconnectable?
To do this with KDE you need to urpmi kdenetwork (if you're using mandrake) HTH Stu On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 13:21, Stuart Guthrie wrote: That sounds more like VNC. I think Gnome can do something like this now. KDE since a year or so ago. Is this what you mean? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6553 Stu On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 12:58, Simon Wong wrote: Afternoon all! I want to be able to connect to a server running X and GDM, login, do some stuff and then be able to disconnect and reconnect at a later stage (like Citrix Metaframe allows you to do) with my applications, xterms etc still running. Is this possible with GDM and XDMCP or will I get a new session everytime I connect to GDM? I want to be able to get a whole desktop rather than just X forwarding of applications. -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wongy.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG - AVI?
Sorry Paul, No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) Any ideas Stu BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: Evening All, Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based player that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be calling it via PHP. If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. TIA, Paul __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MPEG - AVI?
Thanks to BenDL, here's my a variation on problem solved I think: cat scripts/divxmake.sh # script starts mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=1 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi mencoder $1 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vpass=2 -oac copy -o $1.divx.avi # script ends. Does a 2 pass encode to divx format, adapted from here: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg4.html Thanks Ben Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:34, Paul Robinson wrote: Subtle :) Forgot the ole try a 2 instead of to trick. Downloading mpeg2avi as we speak... or type... Apologies for the HTML seems I'd neglected to add SLUG to the Thunderbirds list of plain text recipients. Thanks again, Paul Stuart Guthrie wrote: Sorry Paul, No idea, but while the list is at it, I'm keen to go AVI to MPEG!! Tried avi2mpeg but the command failed. ;-) Any ideas Stu BTW HTML email is a bad look for character mail readers. On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 19:56, Paul Robinson wrote: Evening All, Trying to provide a method of showing video clips in a web based player that's written in flash. Flash has it's own limitations in that it can only play Quicktime or SWF movies. I've found a Linux based app that converts AVI files to SWF, however I can't find anything that can convert MPEG to SWF. So the logical next step was to try and find a way to convert MPEG to AVI. Unfortunately Google comes up with nothing but noise and the SLUG archives reveal zip. Oh and it's got to be able to do it from the command line as I'll be calling it via PHP. If anyone can offer up any advice it'd be much appreciated. TIA, Paul __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Are you using bluetooth? KBluetooth works well with P800's yours is newer so probably even better. There is probably an equiv to Kbluetooth for Gnome. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:28, Jason Rennie wrote: Hi all, I just acquired a new Sony Ericsson z1010 mobile phone. Anybody know if it is possible to get them talking to a linux box for file transfer ? I plugged it into my ubuntu box and the device manger at least brought up some information for the phone. I wonder how hard it would be to write a device driver for it. Anybody know where to begin ? Seems like an interesting project for me to have a stab at. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 21:07, Ben de Luca wrote: Do you think that being on the committee might give you a extra value from what is offered? Some extra value yes. Some of the work has come from meeting other members. With more members coming in is 100x times going to change to 10x? The level of interest from head hunters, other members etc will also increase. I'd anticipate more rather than less opportunity. I saw the cost is around $20 a year? so open skills has brought you 2000? the time spent doing what ever you need to do with openskills might out way the benefit of the 2000? If the cost is so low $20 how does open-skills market it self? Word of mouth. Web site. Skills base. Networking. We're running on a very small budget and these methods are currently the most effective. Does some one check that the people who list information list only true and correct information? No but honesty obviously is always the best policy. If you don't have the skill, you're not going to be hired for very long and definately not recommended on. There is talk of a peer-review process where members can rate others on projects they've worked on or some such. Nothing's decided yet. Most issue to do with openskills are debated on the mailing list for a while before the committee decide. HTH Stu bd On 07/10/2004, at 2:36 PM, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Hi Taryn In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. Other members have similar stories. Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more skills searching and more work for members. Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only excellent services for the members. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote: Taryn wrote: Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best interests of members. Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. All the best, Bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Mobile Phones
Yes I've got a d-link bluetooth usb thingo from everything linux. Works well on Linux, 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. ( Mandrake ). Bluez sits under Kbluetooth from what I've read. KBluetooth makes it useable. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 21:42, O Plameras wrote: Jason Rennie wrote: What I really wanted was USB support. I don't have a bluetooth enabled computer to connect to. If you have Linux you can buy USB Bluetooth dongle, install and configure Bluez package software then rock'n roll. If you are in Sydney, you can buy good brands of Bluetooth dongle device on Sundays at Westfield North Rocks every Sunday. I have tested Billionton and Cadmus Bluetooth USB. You can buy class 1 ( up to 100m range) or class 2 (up to 10m range). I buy class 1 Bluetooth dongle for half of the price offered by well established Computer Shops. I believe a USB cable kit from your Mobile to Linux will also work but I have not done this. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Hi Taryn In terms of earnings from being associated with OpenSkills I'd say it's been much more than 100 x the cost of annual membership for me. These opportunities would not have surfaced had I not been a member. Other members have similar stories. Now that the skillsbase is up and running, we're anticipating more skills searching and more work for members. Being on the committee, I'd say we are very focused on providing _only excellent services for the members. Stu On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:53, Bruce Badger wrote: Taryn wrote: Openskills you have to pay for... I find this a big turnoff and it's highly unlikely that I'd join. We know that some people feel this way, but OpenSkills does provide a number of hosted services, and these do need to be paid for. An alternative would be to look for advertising revenue or sponsors. Both of these options would mean that OpenSkills would be beholden to parties other than our members, and that may not be in the best interests of members. Being funded by members means that we can focus on doing the best for members. If there is a better financing model that leaves OpenSkills free to focus on it's goals, we'd love to hear about it. All the best, Bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] O'Camel database file system
Coincidence? O'Caml was used by this student to build a database file system for his Master Thesis. It integrates with a hacked version of KDE so that you can do a File/Save directly to the database instead of a more normal file system. http://ozy.student.utwente.nl/projects/dbfs/ This is his current goal: Creating a GNOME desktop that does away with the dual nature of computers and implements the DBFS. From there on we can go forward with a desktop system oriented to the user and simplicity. FWIW Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Installing Linux on laptop
Sounds weird. In case it helps, my experience was XP on a laptop, installed Mandrake, mandrake re-sized the XP partion to 1/2 the disk, wouldn't go lower. Mandrake installed AOK. Perhaps MS have altered things with later versions to stop dual boot but I doubt it. Perhaps the disk files are at all ends of the XP partion preventing a resize. You used to have to run a windows re-jig of some sort to get the files re-organised then a re-partion should work more effectively. With windows file systems, all bets are off. Someone else definately knows more about this than me. Windows is fading from memory somewhat. It's been a while. BTW your computer clock is wrong or you are posting from the future. If the latter, can you tell me who's going to win race no. 3 at Randwick today? ;-) HTH Stu On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 15:47, vladimir wrote: Hi everyone, I just bought a new LG LS50-6 laptop and want to set it up as dual boot winxp/redhat. I installed Partition Magic 8 on the hd and thought that resizing the partition would be easy, so that i can install RH. However, PM wouldn't allow the resizing or creating of any partitions on the primary C:\ NTFS partition. As i understand, all the install/rescue files, including WinXP installation is on some sort of invisible partition, which doesn't show in the explorer and can only be accessed to re-install WinXP. Partition magic doesn't show/recognize it either. When attempting to install RH and error msg appears : Boot table on hda unreadable. The option i am given is to delete data on existing partition, reformat and proceed with installation, which is not what i would like to do. When using the supplied rescue disk, options are pretty much the same. I'd rather not do this, if there is another solution. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Vlad __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Q) XML - is there a linux counter part to xmlspy
Eclipse with the free 'black sun' plugin is a nice XML formatter. It's not as nice as XMLspy but does the job for me! www.eclipse.org Black sun is on sourceforge as are lots and lots of eclipse plugins. HTH Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Using CUPs to help direct printing PDFs
Hi there! I'm looking for a solution to print PDfs from windows clients directly. ie no opening of Adobe Acrobat reader. Since the proposed install includes a Linux box, I'm wondering if I can't just use CUPS as a printer server for the various printers? ie. PC w. attached printer (smb address //PC1/printer1) -- ipp or something -- CUPS Printer Server -- smb://PC1/printer1 (printing via postscript). The other alternative is an icky windows client install of ghostscript and redmon or some such. I've done the CUPS -- smb:// bit before, just wondering if I'm right in assuming CUPS can handle direct submits of PDFs? TIA Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Using CUPs to help direct printing PDFs
What an excellent set of suggestions. The best and looks like the easiers to setup is : http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html Thanks Phil, Mat, Mike for your comments. Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
Thanks to James and the others for contributing to this discussion. There are some good thoughts. Also some great ones from the AJUG list. The reason, which I failed to explain clearly in the first post for a 'stack' is that the first lookup might not be the only leap out from that form. ie Order Form, partially filled in. -- Search for Customer - Customer not there, add customer Search for Customer type to add to customer (if there are 1Mills of them, requires request/response browser) Customer Type not there, add customer type Select Customer type for partially filled customer form and return to customer form - Finish entering customer form and save. --- Select newly entered customer to add to partiall filled order header. -- Phew! Now finish the order Form!!! Does this explain the need for a 'stack'? This sort of thing is an absolute requirement in an ERP style app. It's actually easy stuff if writing GUI, just icky in web. Hence the question... Thanks again to those who chipped in. I'll try to work within the normal HTML request response I think and use a 'session' object in Struts to hold state for the stack. Thanks Stuart On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 16:26, James Gregory wrote: On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 16:13 +1000, Stuart Guthrie wrote: I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write the 'stack' technology. I don't know that it's a stack problem. I can think of two ways to do it: 1. Use the zany xml-rpc stuff in Javascript to do the query. This sounds like a nice idea in theory but I don't know how compatible it would be. Anyone played with this? 2. Have your lookup butt submit the data and set some magical flag that says I'm only searching, don't act on this data, which has the side affect of committing your input to session data or whatever, so that it can be used for default values the next time the page is loaded You'd do the lookup when sending back your default data. Make your magic variable a hidden input and have the 'lookup' button re-set that hidden variable and then call submit on the form. I've not explained that very clearly, but hopefully you'll get the gist of it. Ask if you need clarification. HTH, James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'
This is a general 'how do you do it if you do it' question about web application design. Although I use struts, I'm sure a Perl or Php example would suffice. Even if you know of an OSS project that does this thing... Here is the scenario. Web Form: - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: __ LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ? - So the user has entered a new order date and requests the LOOKUP CUSTOMER button to search the 1,000,000 customers in the database. (Note, I picked a cool million deliberately to stop the 'just use a combo' suggestions) The customer is found and selected. The user is returned to this form in exactly the same 'state' they left it. ie with the date entered as 15/08/2004, except their customer code is now filled in. As is the Customer name. - ORDER HEADER Order No: 0010 Order Date: 15/08/2004 Customer: ABC123 LOOKUP CUSTOMER Customer Name: ABC Inc. - Ways to do this: - Some sort of 'stack' where the state is maintained in a 'level' of the stack with all the form values from the web page. The user goes off and searches on the next level of the 'stack' and once sorted, pulls (or is it pops) the stack back to the previous 'level' and re-populates the form. - Something else. - Can't be done. I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write the 'stack' technology. TIA Stuart Guthrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux
My preference currently for robustness, speed and great keyboard. IBM Thinkpads. I use the SFF myself 12 screen but others like 15 w. the works. I set mine to dual boot which for visits to companies stuck on Windows is handy. I've heard/seen lots of great things about Apple iBooks and Powerbooks as well. If you don't have any legacy apps from windows days, these are probably my next favourite. HTH Stu On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:59, Dennis M. Gray wrote: I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora Core specifically). Regards -- Dennis M. Gray Far East Information Resources Pty. Ltd. 91 Queen Street BEACONSFIELD NSW 2015 AUSTRALIA Sydney Phone: (02) 9310 7907 Sydney Fax: (02) 9310 7917 Mobile: (0418) 646267 Canberra Phone: (02) 6258 7917 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LTSP and USB and 'full machines'
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 22:27, Simon Bryan wrote: 2. Is it possible to mix 'full' machines with LTSP machines? ie we have ten LTSP workstations, I could solve some of the USB issues if I had a machine with a local install of FC, but would need it to use the username/password from the LTSP server (nis?) and also use the home directory on the LTSP server or at least provide access to it through the desktop. It is definitely possible to mix fat and thin clients. I've got a client with two 'fat' video processing linux workstations (PCs) and several other 'thin' workstations (older PCs). You may need to set up extra services to provide LAN file sharing etc. The fat clients are going to need more client/server style while currently with thin client, everything is running on one box I guess? HTH Stuart Guthrie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Hi Del, Just a followup. The dhcp client worked! The problem seemed to be that he had all sorts of other bits of attempted configuration in there. Once he reset and tried dhcp it worked OK. I guess this means that Bigpond has altered their setup to be more open standards friendly..? If it's of interest, I'll get his setup info for future reference. Thanks for replying Del. Stuart On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 15:56, Del wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless I'm going to answer this by saying that I'm reasonably sure it can't be done. Bigpond cable require a proprietary connection protocol that is not pptp, is not pppoe, and requires a specific login program that they only provide for Windows and MacOS. You can get an unsupported one for Linux called bpalogin but I'm not even going to hazard a guess about how you'd go about installing that on a WRT054G. http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/ -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bigpond cable and WRT054G
Has anyone setup these two to play together nicely. I've just recommended the WRT054G to a friend and bigpond are not being helpful as to how to connect. ie pppoe, ppptp dhcp. I'm sure it can be done, but what incantation? His setup is (hopefully) PC . wifi card ~~ WRT054G -- CableModem --- Bigpond ^^ ethernet cable ^^^ Wireless Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] kvm required
From what I understand, each KVM port is a seperate Keyboard Viewer Mouse combo. So to control two PCs at the same time you need a two port. Be aware that some KVM's look cheaper but you then need extra cables to enable each port. The devil is in the detail. Stu On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 23:10, Simon Males wrote: I just need a rant for a KVM. When i im at home i wish to use standard keyboard/mouse and screen which will be shared by my desktop and laptop. The kvm will require USB ports as my laptop cannot take PS2. I've had a quick browse, and kvm's are not exactly cheap :( I am a bit confused with kvm's, currently i have a PS2 keyboard and mouse that i pretty happy with, but im dont mind getting another USB keyboard and mouse. How many port kvm do i require, 2 input's and 4 outputs ? -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wine MYOB
I looked at this issue about 3 months ago and went back to win4lin. Wine was bad with fonts (this is apparently resolvable), the printing was bad (I sort of got it sometimes working as .ps output - don't even think about getting it to work with specially designed invoices etc) and it was all just taking up too much time to get the required result. Go win4lin, it works well. Better yet try sqlledger or gnucash or something. HTH Stuart On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 22:35, David Kempe wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: 1607: Unable to install Installshield Scripting Runtime I don't know much about WINE, never used it much, but I know that I have got that error on XP systems and a samba server. It has to do with some profile information being located on a disconnected drive (like the registry info for 'My Pictures' or something). there is also a patch that can help it on the MYOB CD - in one of the subdirectories its a patch for the installshield things that might not work. OK, so perhaps I should be trying to use an installed system, but how do I know what files I need in my various parts of the wine filesystem? Just install MYOB into a windows box, and copy the entire c:\myob folder over. It should work just fine without actually 'installing' it in the WINE install. If its Premier we are talking about here, then its a different story :( Hellp! let me know if that maybe useless advice helped dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wine MYOB
Howard Lowndes wrote: Ya, I know about sql-ledger (use it myself) but you know how conservative finance types can be, esp if they are looking for any excuse not to get off their comfort zone with M$. Sure do. On that note, I have some conservative finance types using Cygwin on windows to access via ssh Win4Lin terminal server sessions across a Wan. Works a treat, it's ick to install on the win sessions but once going, solves the whole WAN bottleneck for the legacy Cli/Server app. All the accountants know is that it's a lot faster than the old way. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ATO - Electronic Commerce Interfact - Can it work under Linux?
I've just got the cdrom from the ATO and I'd have to say from looking that it's as you would expect - a responding NO... Looking at the author of some of the HTML code, some person call KAZ appears to be involved. Guess that's why they get the big bucks. After all why not ignore an OS with the same market share as MAC OSX. Here's the CD contents top level before you bother getting it: -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 43 Feb 23 10:31 autorun.inf* dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 15:00 CSI/ dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 13:31 html/ dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 6144 Feb 23 13:32 IE6_sp1/ -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 821975 Feb 23 14:58 Install.exe* dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 13:32 javaInstall/ dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 13:32 mac_install/ dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Mar 9 15:43 misc/ dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 13:32 NetscapeInstall/ -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 310154 Feb 23 13:31 setup.exe* dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Feb 23 13:32 tts/ The java stuff initially got my hopes up but it's an install so that the applet code will work! So, lets go for a nice platform independent delivery mechanism then insist that the user have WiXX or Mac OS X to run the web browser... Ijuts.. I mean, mozilla runs on waay more platforms than bloody netscape and anyway, they could have delivered in a swing interface and skipped the whole browser nonsense altogether. Still I guess they are getting better it wasn't _just WinX Stu On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 21:08, Richard Hayes wrote: Dear List, I was just at the ATO site and saw I now can do my BAS online if I get a certificate. The computer requirements are either Windoz or Mac. If there is a Mac version how hard would it be to get a Linux version? Why don they just use ssl and anybody can use it? Don anyone know the answers. -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Phone:+(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax:+(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob:+(61) 0414 618 425 http://www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book
Thanks everyone, some excellent reference points. I'll plough through them. Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details
ping -b 192.168.1.255 will show you replies from each attached computer on that subnet. HTH Stu On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 14:51, Brett Fenton wrote: nmap -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 where the xxx's are your subnet. typically it will be something like 192.168.0.0/24 or 10.1.1.0/24 this is assuming your machines are responding to pings b On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:44 pm, bill wrote: I have a home LAN - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected to the 'Net via a modem/router. The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP. AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch to which the PC is connected, and as each PC is running a different OS or Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse and is accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN? I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck. thanks in advance BILL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linksys Network Storage Link for USB 2.0 Disk Drives
Looks good. I wonder what the community will make this one do? If only they had a linux brand mark on the front 'Powered By The Penguin' perhaps. Something like what Cyclades do on their gear. Might raise even more awareness of OSS and it's ubiquity. Stuart From the article: Fans of hacking Linksys' Open Source based WRT54G router will be happy to know that the company has presented you with another opportunity in the NSL. If you browse the included CD, you'll find a folder that contains original source for the SnapGear Embedded Linux that runs the NSL, plus source files for the various modified Linux modules used in the product. Just as Linksys' venerable BEFSR41 Linky router marked the start of easy, affordable Internet sharing for the masses, I predict the NSLU2 will do the same for NAS. I haven't been this enthused about a product in a long time, let alone one from the networking equivalent of the Borg. But I have to say that the NSLU2 has restored my faith in Linksys' ability to shake the industry up a bit. Yes, I know rolling your own SAMBA server can be even cheaper if you happen to be handy with Linux, but for about $125 (using your own spare drive and a cheap USB 2.0 enclosure), why not just save yourself some time and keep your blood pressure where it should be? Stuart On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 23:47, Richard Neal wrote: Hai Just saw this interesting Linux device it's a tiny NAS/samba server just add a USB hardisk of choice.. http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-155-ProdID-NSLU2.php cheap too Regards Richard Neal *** On the fifth day the Governor of the town called all the tribal chieftains to an audience in the market square, to hear their grievances. He didn't always do anything about them, but at least they got *heard*, and he nodded a lot, and everyone felt better about it at least until they got home. This is politics. -- Carpet politics are very similar to Discworld politics (Terry Pratchett, The Carpet People) *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Recommendation for a good CSS book
I'm looking for a good book on CSS. I was wondering if anyone had a fav. they might be able to recommend. Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] mini-itx, 1 PCI slot ?
There are USB wifi gadgets out there which means you save the wifipci card. My mini-itx is using a CNET 611 from memory it was a b*tch to install, had to update the drivers with the vendor/prod id.. Better still there is also the WRT054G with 4 LAN switch built-in which means if your gadget is NIC wired, you can then get to it via your wifi AP. eg: Internet/ADSL ^ ^ ^ mediacentre --- BLUE THINGO CABLE --- WRT056G ~^~^~^~^~^ LAPTOP HTH Stu On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 09:37, Simon Males wrote: Are there any Mini-ITX's around that have 2 PCI slots ? Or is my only option an expander card: http://www.warcom.com.au/shop/flypage/accessories/285 I thinking using that expander card would require custom casing. I was planing to have an additional network NIC and an wireless PCI card. -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless pcmcia cards
I made the same mistake. The TI drivers are out there but very alpha with no promises of working at all well. I sold mine on to a 'doze user and solved the cisco aironet problem that led me down the path of a D-link 650+ (the 'G' right?). Things may have changed in the 3 months since but I'd sell it and buy another. The chipset unfortunately really matters. 'Orinoco' chipsets seem to the the best supported although I got an amtel device going well after considerable effort. There really needs to be a 'Powers On Linux' sticker on these gizmos. Stu On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 21:29, Kevin Saenz wrote: Hi all, I just bought a d-link g650+ for my laptop I was just wondering if anyone has got the card working under any distro. At the moment I am looking at compiling in to 2.6.7 kernel the modules for acx100, Have searched google to find most people with silimar problems and no real solution. Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mandrake
You should just need to shove cdrom1 in the drive and follow the bouncing ball. Biggest question is how much space you give Linux. Give it lots (at least 10Gb) as there are lots of great bits of software out there. SLUG meets tonight so you could also get lots of help if you show (mini-install-fest anyone). See the website slug.org.au for details. I've used 10 to install on an XP laptop. Worked a treat except windoze wouldn't give me as much space as I wanted. Just one last point. Please don't take offence, but we prefer non-formatted emails to the list, just plain text. Lots of us (not including me) are still using console email readers. BTW Great selection of distro! Mandrake has to be one of the easier to install and it's pretty up to date with the latest and greatest. ducks, weaves and runs! YKMV (Your Kilometers may vary) Stuart On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 08:37, Richard Peddie wrote: Dear Slug, I have a copy of Mandrake Linux Power Pack 10.00, that I would like to install on my current PC BenQ, V991 or a new Laptop. Is there anyone available to help? Richard Peddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OO Spreadsheets from open standards iCalendar
FYI: (Just in case you were all wondering how to do this...) JiCal can now render an iCalendar file (the format used in the open source world - usually) from evolution, apple ical, P800 calendar, moz calendar to an open office spreadsheet. A useful tool if you require timesheets and use evolution to record the raw data. Ah, the wonders of OO XML and XSL.. http://www.sf.net/projects/jical HTHS Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HA PostgreSQL
No but be sure to post to the list if you get some goodies. I'm also interested.. I found this postgres db reference, no idea of it's effectiveness: http://www.commandprompt.com/entry.lxp?lxpe=304 What's the language? There are splitters in JDBC terms that enable database updates to be replicated automagically. Budget solutions and not-so budget solutions are available. http://www.budget-ha.com/ha7.jsp http://c-jdbc.objectweb.org/ http://cocoonhive.org/articles/jboss/20031125/JBoss32-hajms.html Stu On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 20:00, Gavin Carr wrote: Hi all, Do any sluggers know of anyone using PostgreSQL in any high availability modes? I'm interested in both lan-based cluster configurations or using more wan-based disaster-recovery-type replication? I've got a client who would love to use PostgreSQL in place of Oracle on a project with some nasty availability requirements, but we haven't been able to find too many reference sites for this kind of thing. Any pointers much appreciated. Aussie ideally, but I'd take anything at this point. Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Microsoft loses Munich
Just hitting lists here and there. After initial successful Linux pilots - MS just lost the final battle for Munich. The first 14,000 user Linux install is up for grabs... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Software for openoffice.
FYI. I've just created a new project GPL at source forge. www.sf.net/projects/republic It's aim is to help organisations locked-in to proprietary software (mainly those CRM/ERP types) to extract data from their computer reports and out into the open world of OASIS standard spreadsheets (ie OpenOffice). This project has been sponsored to some degree by a Progress-4GL user to help them extract data from MFG-Pro reports. Interesting bits in writing it were (for the developers amongst you): - XSL for translating my XML to Open Office was p*ss easy although I'm currently stuck on date fields, I've got currency and string fields translated. The tricky bit was re-zipping until SUN helped with an example. - There is room for a generic 'report xml' format that can be a middle ground to OpenOffice, PDF, HTML, text, CSV, PS, etc. This may be out there as I'm sure hope someone will point out, I just haven't found it yet. I'm thinking of breaking the command line stuff into two distinct phases to make it more useful to other projects: 1) Parse to report.xml. 2) Translate report.xml to OpenOffice. This enables more easy translation to other formats with application of different XSL. These are random ramblings which may be applicable to a few of you in middle-to-corporate size organisations. It's the sort of application that really appeals to accountants and middle-management ie spreadsheet lovers. Ten rabbit stamps if you can work out why it's called 'republic'... ATB Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Developing FOSS while employed developing proprietary software
It's an tricky area. If I employed a person and found all/some of the work I paid them to write ended up in an OSS project they were also part of, I might be rightfully upset. On the other hand, having employees learn and develop on OSS projects makes them much better employees. I would want all development, support and testers to also contribute back somewhere in the process. Tricks learnt in their own free time are just as applicable to corpname as to the OSS project. I would never want to discourage that work. I would probably be more than happy with parts of an application they were writing being used in OSS projects but parts definately off-limits. That is unless I can finally resolve a decent business model for an OSS software business application house. eg. Order Entry App. Tricky but generic print routine - OSS OK Specific Order Entry Screen - Not OSS OK Framework for dev - maybe/maybe not OSS OK See the mess? Solution: Potentially libraries (jars) are used to funnel the OSS from the proprietary. This of course prohibits embedding GPL libs in the app but enables LGPL or BSD style. (I think) The whole business model for a 'software house' is not necessarily there in FOSS/OSS yet. Please, please contradict me. Just some thoughts. Stu On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 10:02, Del wrote: Michael Knight wrote: Hi guys, I'm currently employed as a web developer/sys-admin for a small business. My employment contract basically states pretty clearly that anything I `invent' during the course of my employment becomes the property of the company. Then you should (a) not have signed that contract, and (b) check to see if it's enforceable. I suspect it is, which is why I've declined to sign such contracts in the past. Also if your boss has an assumption that it covers out of hours work on your own projects, that assumption needs to be tested legally before you do any open source work, or any other work of any kind, including reading or posting to this mailing list! Yes, the possibility is that if someone posts a technical question on this mailing list, and you post a good answer, that answer becomes the property of your boss, as does any invention that arises from that answer, even if developed by someone else, even if they have not read your answer. I'd go talk to Brendan Scott from Open Source Law: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It might cost you money but it might save your arse. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] animation
Hi Kazik, Your clock is wrong BTW. Remember, remember it's the 5th of November! Here's a weird way for you. Get Open Office 1.1. File New Presentation. Place a JPG on each page. Save the presentation. Export as Flash... Load Flash to your website and place inside HTML. View the 'film' on line! Stu On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 15:02, kazik wrote: Hello all! I would like to know how or if I can use my digital camera to make a little animated film under Linux. It´s a bog standard Fuji Finepix that takes stills as JPEGS and I would like to know how I can string them all together. Any tips on software, conversion processes, formats and editing would be very welcome. Many Thanks in advance Kaz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Testing Slug List
This is test. I've posted to the list twice today and the posts are not appearing. Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Testing Slug List
Apologies. My previous post must have failed a SPAM test. Which is ironic since it was about anti-spam software. Stu On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:01, Stuart Guthrie wrote: This is test. I've posted to the list twice today and the posts are not appearing. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] procmail Q.
Does anyone know how to tell a procmail rule to escape a character for matching? Is it the \ character. so for eg to select all with 'fred' would be \'fred\' ? TIA Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DSPAM vs Spamassassin
Hi there! Since I won't be able to come Friday and sluglets includes a chat about spam agents, I have my 2c to toss in comparing DSPAM to spamassassin. My comments for the sluglets, FWIW follow: Install --- dspam is considerably harder to install than spamassassin. It hooks directly as the delivery agent into postfix and feeds procmail (in my case) after that. Spamassassin was very simple to install for a small site hooking in as series of procmail commands. Winner Spamassassin. Config and easy of use -- dspam is user-level based as a default and requires each user to 'train' the dspam setup as to what they regard is spam by forwarding to their own userspam account. For example mine was sfg for normal mail which I forwarded to sfgspam to tell dspam that the mail item was spam. In evo, this can be laborious (Ctrl-F, type in spamemailaddress Ctl-Enter x 300 emails). What might have improved dspam was if I could configure it to recognise everything in an imap folder as spam (eg the 'spam' folder) since drag-drop of multiple emails to a folder is a much easier exercise in evo, moz mail etc. This would required dspam to talk imap which I don't think is on the cards RSN. spamassassin, you just let run, you can fiddle with /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf if you don't get out much, but really there is no need. Winner Spamassassin. Usefulness -- I was forwarding spam emails for about 3 weeks - maybe 300 odd. At this point it only managed to spot 2 spam emails itself. At this point I decided that my typical user population would not have the patience to cope with this much training so gave up - was it 2 emails from recognising 90% of my spam maybe but I don't think so... Spamassassin was instantly useful and filters about 90-95% of all spam on the server. Winner Spamassassin. Conclusion -- I'd say that currently spamassassin wins by a country mile. It's easy to config, instantly useful and for low volume sites doesn't even need much tuning. There is a daemon version which I imagine helps the higher vol sites. DSPAM has promise but lacks an easy way to teach it whats what. I love the concept of teaching it to recognise spam but the execution fails to deliver currently. Perhaps a true spam hater would install both, dspam as the delivery agent passing off to procmail which then includes spamassassin to filter any that got through the dspam point. This would be possible. Winner Spamassassin. HTHSomeone Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DSPAM vs Spamassassin FYI
For some reason this did not post this morning. Here tis again. Since I won't be able to come Friday and sluglets includes a chat about spam agents, I have my 2c to toss in comparing DSPAM to spamassassin. My comments for the sluglets, FWIW follow: Install --- dspam is considerably harder to install than spamassassin. It hooks directly as the delivery agent into postfix and feeds procmail (in my case) after that. Spamassassin was very simple to install for a small site hooking in as series of procmail commands. Winner Spamassassin. Config and easy of use -- dspam is user-level based as a default and requires each user to 'train' the dspam setup as to what they regard is spam by forwarding to their own userspam account. For example mine was sfg for normal mail which I forwarded to sfgspam to tell dspam that the mail item was spam. In evo, this can be laborious (Ctrl-F, type in spamemailaddress Ctl-Enter x 300 emails). What might have improved dspam was if I could configure it to recognise everything in an imap folder as spam (eg the 'spam' folder) since drag-drop of multiple emails to a folder is a much easier exercise in evo, moz mail etc. This would required dspam to talk imap which I don't think is on the cards RSN. spamassassin, you just let run, you can fiddle with /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf if you don't get out much, but really there is no need. Winner Spamassassin. Usefulness -- I was forwarding spam emails for about 3 weeks - maybe 300 odd. At this point it only managed to spot 2 spam emails itself. At this point I decided that my typical user population would not have the patience to cope with this much training so gave up - was it 2 emails from recognising 90% of my spam maybe but I don't think so... Spamassassin was instantly useful and filters about 90-95% of all spam on the server. Winner Spamassassin. Conclusion -- I'd say that currently spamassassin wins by a country mile. It's easy to config, instantly useful and for low volume sites doesn't even need much tuning. There is a daemon version which I imagine helps the higher vol sites. DSPAM has promise but lacks an easy way to teach it whats what. I love the concept of teaching it to recognise spam but the execution fails to deliver currently. Perhaps a true spam hater would install both, dspam as the delivery agent passing off to procmail which then includes spamassassin to filter any that got through the dspam point. This would be possible. Winner Spamassassin. HTHSomeone Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] No Keyboard in X
If you're running Mandrake, just run drakconf. Stu On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 13:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shutdown on Friday. Came in this morning and fired up. The keyboard won't connect in X, although it does in the console. I can't work it out. Perhaps someone came in and, being baffled by the linux login, decided to muck around in the bios. I've changed a few keyboard settings there (K7), to no effect. I have another installation on a small partition for testing purposes. Strangely the keyboard won't work there either in X. Any suggestions as to possible fixes? Any ideas would be appreciated. Nick mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Thin client - Access to local PC's USB
Hi there I've got a setup where there are 5 PCs accessing a Linux Server all using thin client. I use win4lin to allow backward compatibility to the two products they still need back there (MYOB and WORD/ACCESS). Of course one of them has got a palm tungsten and wants to sync it to his evolution software using the palm linux stuff. Should he go back to fat client (ie running X locally with NFS shares for the data on the server.) or is there a way of faking out the X setup so that when he's logged on and using USB, it's syncing to his USB port across the network? Icky question but I hear the propellers humming overhead already. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Thin client - Access to local PC's USB
Thanks Phil Looks like you are right. I just have to run evo/palm link on the w/s and still keep the same display. It's like clapping backwards FOI: 9.5. Launching local applications In X Windows, programs typically run relative to where the window manager runs. That is, if the window manager is running on the server, displaying its output on the workstation, then any programs that are launched, will also run on the server, sending their output to the workstation. The trick is having the server tell the workstation to launch the program. This is typically done with the rsh command. Here's an example of how to run the gaim program on the workstation: HOST=`echo $DISPLAY | awk -F: '{ print $1 }'` rsh ${HOST} /usr/bin/gaim -display ${DISPLAY} The above example can be entered in an xterm window, or it can be put into a shell script, and be launched by an icon on the desktop. On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:08, Phil Scarratt wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Hi there I've got a setup where there are 5 PCs accessing a Linux Server all using thin client. I use win4lin to allow backward compatibility to the two products they still need back there (MYOB and WORD/ACCESS). Of course one of them has got a palm tungsten and wants to sync it to his evolution software using the palm linux stuff. Should he go back to fat client (ie running X locally with NFS shares for the data on the server.) or is there a way of faking out the X setup so that when he's logged on and using USB, it's syncing to his USB port across the network? This isn't gonna help much, but it's gotta be possible. I've used LTSP with USB mice in the past. I can't remember the specifics of it though, but it wasn't terribly involved...maybe checkout the LTSP X setup stuff. Fil !DSPAM:3f987f72161576921011683! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [activities] Re: [CTTE] Introducing abas business software - Microsoft free ERP!
Surely that fits squarely into the 'irrelevant' pile? Not so. If the techies gave the talk and allowed questions, I'm sure the time would be well spend. There are a lot of sluggers in this sort of space so I'm thinking being shown what has been done commercially and being able to question technically would be of benefit to them. Also if you work at a company that could use this sort of solution, it's going to get Linux in there and other OS' out. Stu On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 10:52, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary Gardiner The latest offer was a demonstration of Microsoft free ERP, eBusineess and web shop software, which is interesting enough, assuming they aim it correctly. Surely that fits squarely into the 'irrelevant' pile? Anyone got a form of words which boils down to please make sure your talk is aimed at interested SLUG members, not simply at potential customers? Perhaps trawl through your ctte archives for some of the replies to offers we've had in the past. There are probably some good ones around the time of the Sony talk. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Perdon; estoy buscando mis pantalones. - Luis Villa's Essential Spanish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux hardware raid controllers
I'd suggest PROMISE 'hot swap' is not a good idea unless you are looking to implement on a W2K box. Linux support was not good last time I looked/tried. Stu On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 09:21, James Gray wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:08 pm, DE LUCA Ben wrote: Would any one feel inclined to recommend some thing? I would prefer hardware over software and I don't need much space, a couple of hundred gigs, I just want it to be stable and safe. I will probably Just raid mirror two drives. SCSI is best for its hotswap ability. So no IDE,ATA cards thanks? What do you think? Any one want to sell me one(new)? Bend, I've had a lot of success with Compaq's SmartArray controllers; specifically their SmartArray2 (no RAID5 but does RAID0,1 and 0+1), SmartArray3200 (RAID0-5) and SmartArray5 controllers with Linux. I've seen a few SmartArray2 and SmartArray3200 controllers floating around on eBay recently for under AUD$200. They are just a standard PCI card and work well with both Compaq and non-Compaq systems. As others have suggested the Mylex series of controllers are well supported in linux if you want something else. Adaptec are also a good option but over-priced IMHO. As for hot-swap drives etc, I've had good success sourcing after-market kits for this stuff from Microgram in Newcastle (http://www.mgram.com.au/). I haven't dealt with them for a year or two now, but they have (were?) always prompt and pleasant to deal with. Plus they stock a LOT of weird stuff that is just hard to find - converters, cables etc. YMMV. --James __ A random quote of nothing: But, officer, he's not drunk, I just saw his fingers twitch! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org 1.1
It looks great I'm dling now too- 76.5Mb for those who haven't tries yet. I'm particularly interested in the SWF translation and PDF export features. Also they have been talking about 'crystal reports' type add ons in the datasources so I'm curious about that too. Stuart On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 10:59, Simon Males wrote: No one has broken the ice here yet but OpenOffice.org 1.1 is out (latest release previously was 1.0.3). One of most funky things is putting the export to PDF on the toolbar (no fiddling with printers, and not can PDF easy on windows if need be). Twas officially announced in my inbox at 2am today, but its been syncing since the weekend. Also beware the new sun logo'd splash screen(*). Its also the same a RC5. Kinda newbie feature list, with more/better links towards end: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/ (*) http://framework.openoffice.org/unbranded-source/browse/~checkout~/framework/offmgr/res/Attic/openintro_sun.bmp?rev=1.1.2.1content-type=image/bmp What next? Apart from 1.1.x's, OOo next major release is 2.0 (hopefully where Ximian's art comes in). -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OO 1.1
Oh yes I forgot - it claims docbook filters??? RIS! Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] linux mandrake
Hi Harry, welcome to Slug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ This means you logged on. but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login This should not happen unless you press CTRL-D or type in exit and press enter. It's sounding like you're starting up rescue mode or something? It's a bit difficult to assist you with this from here. You will need to tell us a bit more about what you selected to install and what messages it gave you along the way. Perhaps you could come along to the upcoming installfest where we can all get a squiz at your problem and also install Linux for you! Alternatively the SLUG meets last Friday of the month at the University of Technology. Come along and discuss there if you wish. Stu On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 21:52, Haitch wrote: (bounced from committee@ to slug@) hi, could anybody help me please with the following problem. I have installed the program 5 times over the last 8 hours, and I can't get past the login stage, each time. my user name is accepted, my password is accepted, but then I get the following line [EMAIL PROTECTED] harry] $_ the cursor is flashing, but no matter what I enter now it goes back to login I have read my little red book, but can't find what I am supposed to enter after the localhost line I have entered my root password, but that also does not help me I thought it was about time that I found another o/s but so far I am getting nowhere fast.. thanks Harry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] USB Bluetooth adapter recommendations
Everythinglinux sold me a D-Link DBT-120. It works fine with Bluez. On Dave Kempes ftp issue. Get them to try the nfsclient (n3nfs) for the Symbian OS. It's clutsy but its good. http://www.koeniglich.de/p3nfs.html You can send stuff with obex too via obexserver but again it's klutsy. Stuart Guthrie Eureka IT On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:04, Mike MacCana wrote: Hey folks, I've recently purchased a Linux compatible phone (a SonyEricsson T610, which can sync its email folders and addressbook to Evolution). I'm looking at a USB bluetooth adapter to do the syncing, and according to http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/usb.html most devices with the four chipsets mentioned should work. I was wondering if anyone here had any recommendations or throughts on the various USB bluetooth adapters available. Mike -- __ Mike MacCanaConsultantRHCX, MCSE, MCP+I Cybersource: Providing Quality IT Professional Services for 11 Years Specialists in Unix/Linux, TCP/IP and Web Application Development Level 4, 10 Queen St, Melbourne. Ph : 03 9621 2377 Fax: 03 9621 2477 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] HP/Compaq memory compatibility.
I'm looking at adding memory to a Compaq/HP server. It uses ECC PC2100 type but warns me in the doco to buy only the expensive stuff from HP. Is there a lock in HP servers that makes sure you only install there memory? I seem to recall there used to be on IBMs. Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Fwd: RE: [SLUG] Oracle over NFS]
Hi Tony I thought Oracle would use some sort of TCP/IP ports to communicate with a client end application. NFS sounds wrong unless you want to access the whole DB Binary file and its other bits (BI journals etc). I'm not into Oracle but most RDBMS work like this: Client Software local or remote |-TCP/IP---| RDBMS Server Process(listening on Port X) This is true of Progress RDBMS, Hypersonic, Postgresql (in TCP/IP mode). HTH Stu On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 12:05, Tony Green wrote: Passing onto the list (thanks Jill) -Forwarded Message- From: Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rowling, Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Oracle over NFS Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 11:45:43 +1000 On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 11:41, Rowling, Jill wrote: The only problem I can think of is NFS timeouts clashing with any Oracle timeouts. If the database is not in use for some time, and NFS does its timeout thing (typ 30 seconds), I would read up to see if Oracle has a shorter timeout before it complains that the database is unavailable. Thats the 'gotcha' that I'd thought of. Also one of the NASs that I looked at had this terrible NFS setup where it exported everything if you wanted NFS at all. Very trusting and not secure (a Win2k box with lots of Win2k things missing from it). A Linux / BSD / Solaris NAS would be better than the off-the-shelf NASs that run Windows. Yeah, I'm looking at doing a NAS with just a big box and a bunch of RAID disks rather than a black box one. Why don't you just plug in an extra controller and add a disk array? You would get better performance. NFS is better suited to individual applications to share data or home directories amongst servers. The shared aspect is the key. 2 boxes both able to access the data (oracle and application failover), otherwise I'd disk array it. Thanks for the insights :-) TG -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] finance under linux
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 12:23, Phil Scarratt wrote: I remember a thread awhile ago mentioned something about MYOB under wine - some people seem to be having success. I've used MYOB under win4lin. It works single user AOK. Multi-user - don't go there. MYOB uses the weirdest, most useless inter-multi-user comms protocol thingo I've seen to date. I think is is a throw back to it's legacy as a single user product. Why they don't just go client/server (or even better J2EE) is beyond me. We're looking at dumping it if at all poss. as it keeps corrupting itself if too many users are on. The funniest thing I read recently was a response from one of their tech persons which did the whole is the.. hardware /software /memory /network /cpu /virus thing in one email. Apparently the flakiness is due to anyone but... MYOB. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SquirelMail without IMAP ? POP ? /Maildir ?
I think it needs IMAP. Stu On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 04:35, Voytek wrote: I'm hoping someone here can help: can SquirelMail run with only Postfix and /Maildir, no IMAP, no POP, like, accessing mail from /Maildir ...? I keep getting -- SquirrelMail version 1.4.1-0.2.7.x By the SquirrelMail Development Team ERROR Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost. 111 : Connection refused Go to the login page -- I do not have IMAP, and, aim to install POP, but, at this time don't have POP either must I have IMAP or POP before I can use it ? the /etc/squirelmail config seems to only have setting for IMAP, but not for POP, can it work with POP ? sorry for asking lot of perhaps trivial Qs, BUT, I have been trying to look up docs on SquirellMail, but, can't get on, it seems the squirrelmail.org server is devoid of some files at this point: http://www.squirrelmail.org/ Fatal error: Failed opening required '/home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/constants.inc' (include_path='') in /home/groups/s/sq/squirrelmail/includes/std_header.inc on line 5 and, the archive I have doesn't seem to have much in the way of config Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Evolution Question
Has anyone managed to add a program to the list of things that can open mail attachments of specific file types in Evolution emails. I'm talking about the 'open in electronic eyes' 'open in open office' options you get when you click on the attachment in Evolution. Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Adding to the Evolution Open In .. list
I'm trying to add a program to the list of things that can open specific file types in Evolution emails. Has anyone done? How? Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Data Format exploration
Hi there, I've used a utility to get a CallLog.dat file from my mobile phone. Naturally I'm curious to parse it but it's all icky hex. Does anyone know what utilities are available in Linux to start pulling it apart? CIA Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Good advocacy article
If you have the time, This company got burned in a BSA ram raid. Moved to Open Source and haven't looked back. http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=lh HTH Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] running Win apps on Linux: wine ?
Hi Voytek There was a near identical thread on this subject last week. Check the archives for 'Experience with emulators'. FWIW my preference is win4lin. However YKMV. Stu Voytek Eymont wrote: how does one run windoze apps on Linux, wine ? how good is it, can it run all? most? win apps ? like MYOB or Quicken ? does it need fast(er) hardware ? how much RAM or CPU is suggested ? is it suitable for 'an average office PC user' who needs to run things like Quicken or MYOB ? Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DSPAM
Has anyone implemented DSPAM? Anyone compared it to spam assassin? I like the idea of the users indicating what they consider to be spam and having the engine react to that user's definition. Thoughts? Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] configuring Postfix for Maildir
Not sure if this is relevant but I followed this path and decided that I would use procmail for the maildir and mail filtering bit not postfix. I think this was because I wanted to slip an anti-virus scanner in betwixt the two. Procmail will give you a few nice added benefits (filtering mail into folders on the server for one) and definately works with postfix and maildirs. HTH Stuart Guthrie Eureka IT Kevin Saenz wrote: Have a look at the original Maildir privilages you will see each mail dirs have -rw-rw uidmail uid dunno if I am looking in the right area. I'm trying to configure Postfix for Maildir, (Maildir is the wau to go, no ?) I've edited /etc/postfix/main.cf .. home_mailbox = Maildir/ .. no other dirs were specified I then sent an email to 'voytek@(thishost) that worked OK, and, Postfix created a dir structure below # ls -l /home/voytek/Maildir drwx--2 voytek voytek 4096 Aug 18 23:08 cur drwx--2 voytek voytek 4096 Aug 18 23:23 new drwx--2 voytek voytek 4096 Aug 18 23:23 tmp I then tried to reply to the email, to see if Postfix will create Maildir for 'root' as well, like it did for 'voytek', BUT, I'm getting a bounce: --- MAILER-DAEMON@ (Mail Delivery System) wrote .. This is the Postfix program at host [EMAIL PROTECTED]: maildir delivery failed: create /var/spool/postfix/Maildir/tmp/1061212376.3171_0.(thishost): Permission denied # ls -l /var/spool/ drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 Jul 29 05:52 postfix - am I supposed to alter permissions on /var/spool/postfix/ ? or, have I got something misconfigured ? to summarize: after editing Postfix to support Maildir format, sending mail to user 'voytek' DID create /home/voytek/Maildir tree, but, replying to user 'root' generates an error Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Netgear Wireless
Crossfire wrote: If what you're realling intending to do is set up the linux box as a AP (which is what I've done - and in fact, if SLUG would like a talk on it, and home 802.11b wireless networks and security, start booking now. :) This would make an excellent talk. Combines a bit of networking, bit of hardware and a lot of linux. How about it committee? Heck, we could even have audience participation from the wifi gadgets in the audience! Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] reg packet sniffers
awaiting a early reply Aren't we all! Try: tcpdump or ethereal Stu Viswanadha R. Rudraraju wrote: hai, Iam currently doing a project on linux networking. Iam in need of a packet sniffer that analyzes the packets in the network and counts the number os packets that are transferring. could anyone there please help me out in this awaiting a early reply thanx -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Experience with emulators.
I'd add a vote for win4lin. Due to it's architecture, it's much more likely to work than WINE. So far I've yet to encounter apps from windows that don't work in the win4lin environment. I've a client working a small business running win4lin thin client to their desktops using MYOB, MS Access, Evolution and Mozilla all on the same desktop (sort of - MS Access and MYOB are running under win4lin). The caveats with win4lin are: - Doesn't work with NT/XP or Win2K. Works best with win98. - Not good at more advanced directX video stuff (eg most windows games). - It costs money. Also you need legit copies of windows to make it all happen. On the big upsides: It's more stable than windows! 'Rebooting' is just a re-click on the 'Doze' icon on your linux desktop. You can install multiple copies on your server for all of your users (server edition). Provided you have windows licenses of course. HTH Stu Disclosure: I do sell this product occasionally. Colour my comments as you see fit. Andar Broment wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike MacCana [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Experience with emulators. On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:28:39PM +1000, Bill Bennett wrote: So, my question is: would it be possible to run CorelDraw for Windows through an emulator? Someone may have had direct experience with CorelDraw under WINE, so they can give you a direct answer. Otherwise, the answer is going to have to be suck it and see, where you install WINE and CorelDraw on top and try it out and see if it works. That way, the next person who asks on the SLUG list can get an expert opinion (yours). Bill may also find the trial version of Codeweavers Crossover Office (a Wine derivative used for running MS Office and various other Windows apps) worth a try too. www.codeweavers.com Mike I'm amazed noone's mentioned VMWare. Basically, you can actually run windows ITSELF in linux. as well as linux in windows. or OS2 in linux in win95 in Win98 in NT4 in XP, if you so prefer. XD www.vmware.com Muskie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces
Bug or feature: I'm wondering why the standard basename and dirname commands in gnu do not handle spaces in file names and paths. I guess there is a good reason why we need to code around it - ie it would break lots of other stuff to fix it. Question: Is there any /bin/sh script out there that handles this? Googling has so far been fruitless. Looks like I might have to bsh it. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces
Yes it was a quoting issue. Tired and sick (in that order). FWIW here is a script that if you use gnome nautilus will create a pdf of a multi page tiff into the same dir. ie place script in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts : #!/bin/sh BASENAME=`basename $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS` DIR=`dirname $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS` cp $DIR/$BASENAME /tmp/$BASENAME cd /tmp rm prefix*.tif tiffsplit $BASENAME prefix tiff2ps prefix*.tif $1.ps ps2pdf $1.ps $1.pdf rm $1.ps mv $1.pdf ${DIR}/. xpdf ${DIR}/${1}.pdf Takes about 12 secs for a 2.2Mb tiff to display in pdf. Thanks to those who replied. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (?Courier?) IMAP + Postfix
When I investigated this the other imap servers (ie other than courier) did not do Maildir. If this is not an issue then you're fine with wu-imap. Stu Kevin Saenz wrote: how about wu-imap? it comes with Redhat G'day all... I'm wanting to create an IMAP server that will play nicely with postfix, and am currently considering Courier. It's for a small organisation and network, on a RH9 server that does not have development tools installed (no gcc, etc). (FWIW, 900MHz Celeron hardware - not too grunty, especially with Gnome2 running on top of it.) I guess, I'm looking for a lightweight, robust, binary-distributed imap server. Courier looks great, only there isn't any RPMs available for it. I've downloaded the compressed archive for it, and gone to rpmbuild it, however I get these errors: # rpmbuild -ta courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721.tar.bz2 error: Failed build dependencies: openssl-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 gdbm-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 pam-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 fam-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 postgresql-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 openldap-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 mysql-devel is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 openldap-servers is needed by courier-imap-2.0.0.20030721-1.9 Argh! I don't want ldap, mysql, postgresql, fam, gdb, openSSL anyway! I'm worried if I install all those packages just to satisfy dependencies I'll actually have to install a far greater number of packages than the amount listed above. (I'm wanting to keep things compact here.) Any suggestion? I was hoping to go down the Courier+Maildrop+Postfix path, but I'm happy to have alternatives. TIA... Mike mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multi-page tiff (again)
Hi there again, My last submitted convert script works OK for small tifs by converting them to PDFs however, for large ones (or perhaps non-standard ones who knows) it wrecks my CPU and forces a reboot. I have a 2Mb tiff that does this every time. So FWIW, here is an alternative, its called tiffsplit. mkdir ~/tmptif rm -f ~/tmptif/* tiffsplit $1 ~/tmptif/prefix kuickshow ~/tmptif This is also sub-optimal but works. It creates the individual pages as seperate images which kuickshow was able to view in preview or fullscreen mode. Not too bad. Suboptimal because it would be better to re-combine them to PDF (anyone?) so that they could be printed as one and sent to others as a PDF. Update solved it: cd ~/tmptif tiff2ps * prefix.ps ps2pdf prefix.ps xpdf prefix.pdf This views it as a PDF successfully. I guess these tools are better with tiff files than the ImageMagick convert tool? BTW http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/ This site was helpful but in the end all of the non-commercial image viewers (that I could actually install) failed to do the job. FWIW Stuart -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Web sever locally unaccessible.
Check out your virtual hosts settings in apache and/or just address it on your local machine directly via its ip address. You could also put an entry in your hosts file with the local ip address range. Finally, is your web server definately running? HTH Stu Myuran Pathmanathan wrote: Hi Sluggers, I am a linux newbie. Just got an ADSL connection and already setup a local network with a linux server and MS workstations. I have successfully set up a web server on the same linux server. My problem is this. I have three web sites running in my server using virtual hosts. I have a Dlink DSL 504 router. I am unable to see the web pages from the local network. I can only see the default page with the local IP address. When ever I use the www.mydomain.com.au, it says connection refused. How can I change this situation, so that I can also view the pages locally? Thanks in advance. pathman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] tiff - multi-page viewer solution
User requirement: Receiving faxes via efax/jfax whatever. All come in as multi-page tif. Which apparently is a bit of a standard in 'document management software' circles. Perfect solution: To provide in the combo box on the evolution email, an option to view all pages (electric eyes only shows the first one! So does the gimp etc.) and to print them. Current solution: Provides a script to convert the MPtiff to pdf and view it in xpdf. cat /usr/local/bin/viewtiff #!/bin/sh convert $1 $1.ps ps2pdf $1.ps rm $1.ps xpdf $1.pdf This will convert a tiff to pdf and view it in xpdf. Interestingly 'convert' did a really bad job of multi-page tif to pdf direct. ps2pdf was much better. Also it's fast, less than a second to do 6 pages to pdf from tif. Probably due to what Gus mentioned about tif just being a wrapper. Using Gnome, I've added it to Nautilus scripts so the user can do it on the current focused file target. To add to Nautilus' scripts I put it in /home/user/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/. I've tried using gnomes file types to make it available direct in evolution but it doesn't seem to hang together. If I crack that I'll post it. HTHSomeone Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] tiff - multi-page viewer solution
Voytek wrote: would you mind emailing me a demo fax page as well it's PDF, just curious what results you get, I tried that a long time ago, using acrobat (or, I should say, some used a crobat to convert my scanned stuff), and, I wsn't impressed in the qulity. Quality was OK. Can't send you a demo as its all confidential info. how do your file sizes compare tiff vs pdf ? See below, pdf was smaller than original tif: -rw-r--r--1 sfg sfg275868 Jul 23 10:56 178ace2.tif -rw-r--r--1 sfg sfg231101 Jul 30 08:18 178ace2.tif.pdf Stu Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:32:03 +1000 Stuart Receiving faxes via efax/jfax whatever. All come in as multi-page tif. Which apparently is a bit of a standard in 'document management software' circles. yes, I believe they mainly use TIFF-F (which is what my fax app uses, incidentally, as does my scan app) Current solution: Provides a script to convert the MPtiff to pdf and view it in xpdf. would you mind emailing me a demo fax page as well it's PDF, just curious what results you get, I tried that a long time ago, using acrobat (or, I should say, some used a crobat to convert my scanned stuff), and, I wsn't impressed in the qulity how do your file sizes compare tiff vs pdf ? /when this perosn converted for me, they bragged, look how much smaller it is than your fax, after I looked at it, I could see why it was smaller/ anyhow, I'll keep your script 'for future use' Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer
Thanks to all who replied. xnview was great but only for viewing (no print option!!!) This live below worked a treat and the clues were provided by Angus, Jeff and Anand: convert {1}.tif {1}.ps ; gv {1}.ps I also tried the above with pdf/xpdf but it broke and also took forever. ps rocks! So does convert! Also gv! I'm getting carried away here again aren't I. Ahem. Now to turn the above into a script and add it as a mime type so that evolution will add it to open with... The mission here is to replace Outlook/windows viewer functionality and thus consign it to the dustpit of time. Stu Angus Lees wrote: At Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:20:09 , Voytek Eymont wrote: I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit mapped images go. tiff is a container format, so what format you really have inside a .tiff is really what determines the image's characteristics. in pretty much all cases you can strip off the tiff header and use the contents in its native format (bmp, jpeg, g3, etc) - there is of course no different in image quality. even if you were converting between lossless image formats (pretty much anything except jpeg), you shouldn't see any difference (they're lossless after all). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer
Anand Kumria wrote: Presumably something is converting those Faxes into TIFFs? jfax is converting them to TIFFs so it is out of my control. I've found a reasonable java tiff viewer but its interface is early java and a bit clunky. Not sure I'd recommend it to the list. While Hylafax seems to encourage people to use TIFFs it can also readily generate PostScript and PDF files. There are plenty of good viewers of both in Linux. Perhaps it'd be better to have the fax conversion program use those instead of TIFF? Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux, ACCC, SCO et al
For those of you who don't go to http://www.slashdot.org, there is a story about Open Source Victoria complaining to the ACCC about SCO. What a crak. Though one of the comments on /.was great. If you're old enough to know the 'bruce' sketch from Monty Python. Bruce: Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce a chap from across the pond who's going to be joining us here at the 'Straylian LUG. Bruces: G'day! Darl McBride: Hello. Bruce: Darl McBride, Bruce. Darl McBride, Bruce. Darl McBride, Bruce. Bruce: Is your name not Bruce? McBride: No, it's Darl. Bruce: Mind if we call you Bruce to keep it clear? Bruce: Gentlemen, I think we better start the LUG meeting. Before we start, though, I'd like to ask the padre for a prayer! Bruce: Oh Stallman we beseech thee! Bruces: Amen! Bruce: Crack tube! Bruce: Now I call upon Bruce to officially welcome Mr. McBride to the 'Straylian LUG. Bruce: I'd like to welcome the slimy bastard to God's own OS, and remind him we don't like stuck-up sticky-beaks here. Bruces: Hear, hear! Well spoken, Bruce! Bruce: Bruce here is a kernel hacker, Bruce here is a system administrator, and Bruce here checks source code for copyright infringement. And is also in charge of the BitKeeper repository. Bruce: What's New-Bruce going to do? Bruce: New-Bruce will attempt to undermine the legality of the linux source code, mislead the public about the nature of SCO's copyrighted code, question the validity of the GPL, and possibly have a secret partnership with Microsoft to reduce the spread of linux in the server and desktop markets by using a smear campaign. Bruce: But that's a load of bullsh%t! Bruce: A spit! Bruce: Howls of derisive laughter, Bruce! Bruces: Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love ya! Amen! Bruce: Another tube! Bruce: Any questions? Bruce: New-Bruce, Are you a monopolist? Bruce: Are you a monopolist? McBride: No! Bruce: No. Right, I just want to remind you of the LUG member rules: Rule 1: No monopolists! Rule 2: No member of the LUG is to use SCO source code in the linux kernel... if there's anybody watching. Rule 3: No monopolists! Rule 4: Now this term, I don't want to see any member of the LUG not infringing on SCO's copyright. Rule 5: No monopolists! Rule 6: There is no!--- Rule 6! Rule 7: No monopolists! Right, that concludes the reading of the rules. Bruce! Bruce: This here's the penguin, the emblem of our source. You can feed it nasty SCO code, if you don't get caught, of course. Amen! Linuus Torvalds was nearly bald and made his own O-S, and linux it was called. Billy Gates came to take it away, but his server couldn't cut it. Linux was here to stay! Big Blue, Big Blue was supporting it too, and linux's growth seemed assured. Then Darl McBride came along and tried to sucker punch linux in the gut. There's nothing Stallman wouldn't call 'em when it came to G-P-L. He figured all the naysayers could die and go to hell! Bt linux wasn't taken and linux wasn't shaken. It wouldn't be that easy to kill(1) The penguin's here to stay, and if McBride won't play he can take his silly lawsuit and go away. Billy Gates, Billy Gates just stews and waits for the day when his junk is obsolete. And come that day we'll all go play Doom 3 on our linux boxen. Swet! Yes McBride can take his silly lawsuit and just go away. 'Cause the GPL will hold up and open source will save the day! Sincerest apologies to Monty Python. And Australia, too. And linux... And the Australian LUG... And anyone mentioned in the above spoof. I'm truly sorry. Really. (And for the fact that the song meter isn't exactly correct... and that many of the facts mentioned are probably distorted. It's all just a joke, I promise!) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer
Hi there Just wondering who might recommend a good multi-page tiff viewer. Has anyone tried to get this going on a Linux desktop (one of my clients is now rolled over to Linux Desktops with Win4Lin). Multi-page tiffs seem to be a common standard for faxes. It's currently a trouble getting them viewable quickly and smickly on Linux. FYI In case you're looking at going Linux on the desktop. FWIW this is the office setup and it's working well: Thin client X (GDM backend). Open Office for office apps except they use WORD to fit in with clients. Grrr. Win4Lin (server edition) for MYOB and WORD Samba for the network drives for remaining WinPCs (2) OpenLdap for a global address book. Accessible by all staff in write mode. This makes it a really useable central address book. Evolution accessing the Ldap directories in read/write and direct to the Maildir. Some imap still used. Still a small setup but the performance is great. If it starts to suck, we can just beef up the X box (to coin a phrase). Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Remote desktop
X -query suseBox Set up susebox to do GDM or KDM. Then you will be running thin X and so using the processor on the other linux system which sounds faster. GDM has a nice setup tool for this gdmsetup I believe. I thanked the maker when I discovered it as X is a steam pile of poo. HTH Stu Rowling, Jill wrote: Hi all, If I have an X terminal (ancient Red Hat thing with Gnome and Enlightenment) and another Linux system (SuSe thing with KDE), how would you suggest I get the SuSe desktop to appear on the X terminal? I presume you have to do something like ssh into the SuSe thing with some parameter to say where to put the display? (Other than using VNC). I can of course run any individual X application and display it on the X terminal but what about the desktop app itself? Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *IMPORTANT NOTICES* This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Writing GUI apps for Linux (FOSS platforms)
I guess that if you are sure that Microsoft are not going to use a patent, copyright, christ knows what other legal thingo to bite you in the you know where sometime in the future. It is this sort of thing that wards me off AOP even though a lot of the concepts and implementations look great. I've read that the original authors are patenting AOP so it's off the list at the mo'. The duo aspect of mono (ie Microsoft and FOSS) is what steers me well clear of that technology too. Only if people use/rewrite non-ECMA bits, which may be encumbered. .NET is actually a really kickarse devel platform, and the MS guys have been very helpful with alternative implementations of it. Hmm. Maybe that is because it is in Microsoft's interests to be helpful. Who exactly is embracing and extending who? helpful with alternative implementations of it. Even if you dodge all of the MS-only, non-standardised stuff, it is still a great platform (as shown by the speed of the Mono project and unencumbered software based on it). You are dealing with experts in slipperiness. The platform they want all web services to end up on is Windows. I seem to recall a version of Java called 'J++' from Microsoft. You might just find that future 'standard' stuff starts requiring this and that from a MS only component. Within a couple of years you have to embrace their version if you _really want it to run on windows. Eventually you have to toss your open version as it is too hard to do 'write once run anywhere'. Does this sound familiar? Back to the original question. Go SWT for a GUI (www.eclipse.org). Choose your backend. Straight RDBMS, OODBMS, LDAP, etc etc etc. If you feel like it, use the same business rules for your web client and your nokia, siemens or sony ericsson client (J2ME). Stu Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Stuart Guthrie As far as anything to do with .NET bindings to FOSS, that will probably end up a bigger can of worms than SCO. I can almost here big Bill in Seattle in the background Mwah, hwa, hwa (little finger on side of cheek) Only if people use/rewrite non-ECMA bits, which may be encumbered. .NET is actually a really kickarse devel platform, and the MS guys have been very helpful with alternative implementations of it. Even if you dodge all of the MS-only, non-standardised stuff, it is still a great platform (as shown by the speed of the Mono project and unencumbered software based on it). For GUI apps, you can write against Qt or GTK+ wtih Mono/C# and port to Windows without using any MS-only, non-standardised stuff. It pays to be cautious, but not to be unnecessarily FUDly. Embrace and extend. - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Writing GUI apps for Linux (FOSS platforms)
Being a business app developer from wy back I've pondered this for a while. I really want to keep my current customer base in Windows happy whilst slowly converting them over to Linux on the desktop. There are bucket loads of options for you to think about. If you're looking for a solution that can also hit a Windows 2010 (when it comes out and if it is still relevant) base, I'd suggest something like J2EE with a GUI frontended by IBMs SWT. For an example of SWT download Eclipse from eclipse.org. It is a free Integrated Development Environment (IDE) that supports lots of languages including Java, C, C++, COBOL. Eclipse has to some degree eclipsed(barr) a lot of other IDEs in the Java world. It also works great on Windows if you need that. I write GUI apps using SWT as it uses native widgets underneath a set of easy to use java class wrapper. This means the user's GUI performance is excellent. It also means you can back-end it with clustering and failover J2EE solutions from the FOSS jboss group (www.jboss.org) (they had 2Mill downloads of their app server last 12 months) and your favourite Postgres or MySQL database. If you also need to deploy web (usually Apache Struts is best) to the same customer base, you can shared all those great business rules you wrote in as Enterprise beans between the Web client and the GUI Client. The same rules can be re-used if your base is buzzword compliant and demands web services et al. As far as anything to do with .NET bindings to FOSS, that will probably end up a bigger can of worms than SCO. I can almost here big Bill in Seattle in the background Mwah, hwa, hwa (little finger on side of cheek) HTH Stu Mark Pearson wrote: Have a look at wxWindows http://www.wxwindows.org It is a cross-platform free gui development toolkit written in c++ vith bindings for python and perl. I only discovered it recently but it has been around about 10 years and seems very powerful. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug