Thunderbird

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  My Office 365 home subscription is going to expire in
approximately three days.  I now have Office 365 personal edition on my new
desktop computer running Windows 10.  I decided to try Thunderbird on my
laptop computer running Windows 7 home edition 64 bit.  Now I need to know
how to reverse the sort order so that the newest messages are at the top of
the list rather than the bottom.  Thunderbird downloaded 674 messages so I
will need to learn how to create a saved folder to keep e-mail I want for
future reference, but I also need to start weeding out unwanted e-mail.  I
wrote to a list member a while back but I didn't receive a response.  Oh, I
also need to learn how to import the saved e-mail from Outlook 2016 from the
laptop computer to put them into the Thunderbird saved folder.  Let's try to
keep things simple as possible.  I must admit that when I set up Tb that
Ididn't realize that I would download 674 messages, smile.  Thanks for any
help you can provide.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: remind me please!

[Michael Massey via Talk]

It's insert backslash.  



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Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:20 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: remind me please!

Was wondering if anyone on list could remind me of the keystroke used in
redrawing the screen?  THANKS Much! de

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RE: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Richard.  I don't understand why this message was forwarded to the list,
but I have a feeling I know why it bounced.  The letter d was left out of
the word Window-eyes.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 6:56 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: FW: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed



-Original Message-
From: postmas...@verizon.net [mailto:postmas...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:46 AM
To: r.kurlan...@verizon.net
Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed

This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields:

  Message-id: <003901d23507$1b687740$523965c0$@verizon.net>
  Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 08:46:18 -0400
  From: "richard kurlander" 
  To: 
  Subject: trouble with outlook 2016

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

  Recipient address: t...@list.winow-eyes.com
  Reason: Illegal host/domain name found

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Jeremy Curry is leaving Ai Squared

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hello, Jeremy.  I wish you nothing but God's blessings and best wishes that
your new job brings you a great future.  I absolutely agree with those who
have asked that the speculating be stopped, and I also agree that with
attitudes concerning Window-eyes demise is unwarranted.  Until an official
announcement is made concerning Window-eyes, let's stop speculating.
Thanks.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: Can anyone access iDiskk official website |Instruction

[Michael Massey via Talk]

No.  I am getting a 404 error as well when I try to access the site using
the link provided.

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Can anyone access iDiskk official website |Instruction

Can anyone access the following link?  When I try to do so, I get 404.  The
interesting thing is, I can access it on my ipod touch.  I want to access it
on my computer to download the users guide.

http://idiskk.com/iDiskk-English/Instruction/Instruction.html


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RE: windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

No, the latest version should be 1607, so the answer to your question is,
no.  You're up-to-date, but your version of Windows 10 is not, hahahaha!  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Don S via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:26 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: windows 10

Ok, windows 10 seems to be working fine and in checking the version it says
1511, am I uptodate?

Also ran latestversion of skypoe and after a little fiddling, it also seems
to work ok.

Thanks

Don

 

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RE: Need some advice

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, again, Rick.  I just wanted to chime in to let you know that you have
Mark Solomon's suggestion and mine, grin.  Pick whichever option you wish to
try.  Should you choose to wait for the update to automatically download and
install on your machine, let us know how it went.  Oh yeah, Mark, let us
know as well, grin.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:00 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Need some advice

I tried to upgrade to the new windows 10 today and when I got to a certain
point I got the following message.  Display : The display is not compatible
with Windows 10. Check with the manufacturer for support. 
What are my options here?  I do not want to buy a new pc just to upgrade.
Are there drivers that will work with this display that windows will work
with?  I have a hp desktop  that came with windows 8.0 and since I have
upgraded to windows 10.  I did not have this problem when updating then.
What do I need to do?  Thanks for any help here.  Rick
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RE: Need some advice

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Rick.  I tried sending the text of a message I sent to another list to
which I am subscribed using the f-8 text selection method but for some
reason it didn't copy and paste the text into the message.  So, contact the
Microsoft Accessibility Answer Desk at 1-800-9365900.  Explain to the agent
what happened, and see if the agent will help you download the media
creation tool.  That is how I got the update rather than wait for the update
to be rolled out to my pc.  I'm not saying this suggestion will work for
you.  

Mike M  

P.S.  Remember that because the download and installation will take a while
to download and install the agent will disconnect the call.  My download and
installation took about five hours perhaps because of my connection speed,
and perhaps as an Ai Squared staff member put it, and I am paraphrasing,
"everybody and his brother are trying to download the update."  .

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:00 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Need some advice

I tried to upgrade to the new windows 10 today and when I got to a certain
point I got the following message.  Display : The display is not compatible
with Windows 10. Check with the manufacturer for support. 
What are my options here?  I do not want to buy a new pc just to upgrade.
Are there drivers that will work with this display that windows will work
with?  I have a hp desktop  that came with windows 8.0 and since I have
upgraded to windows 10.  I did not have this problem when updating then.
What do I need to do?  Thanks for any help here.  Rick
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Got the sound fixed

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Well, after trying and trying I finally figured out how to adjust the
sound to a listenable level.  I typed the word sound in the search box and
pressed enter.  I down arrowed to the default playback device and tabbed to
the properties button and pressed enter.  I pressed the right arrow and
found  the third tab which is enhancements, tabbed to the disable all sound
effects, and checked the box and bingo!  The sound issue was resolved.  All
is well again.  

 

Mike M. 

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Windows 10 anniversary update is finally installed

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Now that the Windows 10 anniversary update is installed, the sound is
extremely distorted once again.  And wouldn't you know, I thought I would
remember how to reset the sound to a listenable level.  However, I'm not
doing something right.  I type the word sound in the search box after
pressing the windows key, but I can't seem to find the enhancements tab.  I
select the default playback device which are my speakers, but I can't find
the tab so I can check the box to reduce the sound level.  I had to turn
down the volume on the sound bar so I could at least not blast my eardrums,
smile.  Thanks.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: test

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Alison.  Welcome to the list.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of CJ  MAY via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 4:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: test

I have just subscribed and this is just a test. 

Alison

 

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RE: Main Menu--windows 10 podcast

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  The latest version of Window-eyes is version 9.5.1.  It was released on
Wednesday the 27th.  It is recommended through the grapevine that the latest
version of Window-eyes is going to work with the upgrade when it comes out
later this week.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Gayle via Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:15 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Main Menu--windows 10 podcast

Hi, I listened to the Main Menu podcast regarding Windows
10. It sounded to me like Windows Narrater is being promoted over Window
Eyes, Jaws, and NVDA. I would like to be able to continue to use WE. Also, I
agree that people with disabilities should be able to fill out a form
regarding Windows 10 and accessability. Also, What is the latest version of
WE and would it be recommended for Windows 10? Any assistance is
appreciated. Thanks. Gayle

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RE: 9.5.1 installation problem for vista32

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Sorry, but you are incorrect.  Window-eyes will work with Vista and the
later Windows operating systems.  The readme documentation clearly states
that.   



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 6:37 PM
To: 'Charles Short' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: 9.5.1 installation problem for vista32

Will current incarnations of Window-Eyes install in a Vista box?  With XP no
longer being supported, how did Vista get away?  I believe one needs
Windows7 and later in order to install Window-Eyes 9.5xxx!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Found Extended Dictionary app, but a question

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Larry.  I tried the extended dictionary app in its early version and
didn't like it so I uninstalled it.  I am not trying to discourage you from
trying it out.  No, there is no license fee.  I can't see what sense it
would make for an app creator to allow users of Window-eyes to be able to
download free apps and then to charge a license fee.  I understand that you
wish to be careful.  I will download free apps when available, but I
wouldn't want to download a free app and have to pay a license fee  .  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:43 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Found Extended Dictionary app, but a question

For those who use this app,

I see that a license is required for use of this app. Am I to understand
from this that there might be a fee associated with acquiring said license,
and if so, how much.

This sure looks like a most useful app, and might be worth paying for,
though I wouldn't want to give anybody any ideas .

Anyway, looks rather exciting.

Thanks,

Larry
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Deleted items now reading correctly in Outlook 2016

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I wanted to let you all know that after I ran the repair utility for
Microsoft Office 2016 that the deleted items folder began working normally
again.  Thanks for reading this message and my previous one concerning this
issue, smile.  

 

Mike M. 

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Deleted items not reading properly in Outlook 2016

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  At approximately 7:30 p.m. last evening when checking e-mail in Outlook
2016, I ran into the following issue.  When I press the shortcut key to open
Outlook 2016, it opens in the inbox as expected.  Any messages that land in
the inbox read as expected.  But when I open the deleted items folder with
ctrl-y and pressing d until I hear deleted items, the deleted items folder
opens.  When I press the home key to make sure I'm at the top of the deleted
items list, I hear selected, one of 47.  Pressing down arrow announces
selected, two of 47, three of 47, and so on.  When I press the ctrl-end key,
then Window-eyes reads messages correctly by saying, let's say, John Smith,
whether or not it was read, the time and date of receipt, and so on.  I was
on the phone with a Microsoft Accessibility Answer Desk representative who
suggested we try uninstalling and reinstalling Window-eyes 9.4.0.  The issue
is still unresolved.  I also received a Gw Toolkit error after I turned on
the computer and before I sent this message.  

 

I am running Window-eyes 9.4.0 under Windows 10.  I am using Eloquence Reed.
I hope I provided enough information.  Thank you.  

 

Mike M 

 

P.S.  This issue is not occurring using Window-eyes on my laptop running
Outlook 2016 under Windows 7.  Ok, I'm heading back to bed.  I started to
send this message last night but was interrupted.  I thought shutting the pc
down overnight would resolve the issue, but no go.  .  

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RE: outlook 2016

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Yes, Outlook is accessible with Window-eyes.  I am using Outlook 2016 with
Window-eyes 9.4.  If anyone else wishes to provide information about using
Outlook 2016 with Window-eyes because they can provide helpful information,
please chime in, smile.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Bob via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:09 PM
To: 'Curtis Delzer' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: outlook 2016

Is outlook accessabable with the latest version os wineyes.
I have to move from outlook 2003
Any help welcome.
Many thanks Robin.



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RE: virus protector

[Michael Massey via Talk]

I'm not Brian.  But, the answer to your question regarding Windows Defender
is yes, it works well with Window-eyes.  Windows Defender took the place of
Microsoft Security Essentials beginning with the release of Windows 8.  I am
now using it with Windows 10.  Just because a computer comes with a specific
antivirus software, you don't have to use it.  Windows Defender is free,
runs in the background, and is unobtrusive.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:35 PM
To: 'Bryan Peterson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' 
Subject: RE: virus protector

Some come with Mcafee, some with ess Smart, nod 32, and Norton. ...I've
never heard of Windows Defender. ...does it work well with WE?
Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 8:20 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: virus protector

What does Windows 10 come with anyway?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk
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> 
> Hi Veronica,
> 
> If you're on Windows 10 then the antivirus which comes with it is 
> sufficient.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
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> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: virus protector
> 
> So recently I found out that my Norton Virus protector could be the 
> cause of all my problems with Window Eyes.  If that is true, then what 
> is a good choice for me?
> 
> Veronica
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RE: Weather or Not

[Michael Massey via Talk]

No.  The app does not send alerts warning of severe weather.  Oh, and
weather or not is not working for me either.  When I press the hotkey which
is ctrl-insert-w for anyone who is interested, I only hear that weather
details are not available.  

Mike M. 

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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:43 PM
To: Mike Rogers ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Weather or Not

Does the app send alerts if a storm is getting ready to strike?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

On 4/25/2016 8:18 PM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote:
> Mine says "no weather details available".  The ap must be down.
>
> 
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
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> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:33:01 -0500
> Rick Jarvis via Talk  wrote:
>
>> I just tried and all I get is my city and then it says there is no
weather details available.  
>>
>> On 4/25/2016 5:26 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>> Could anybody tell me what is up with Weather or Not? I haven't been 
>>> able to get any info since around 2:00pm CDT.
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RE: Three beeps swhen shutting down computer, what do they mean, and what can I do to get rid of them

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Larry.  I am unable to answer your question concerning why Windows 10 users
now hear three descending tones when shutting down their computers.  Chris
Grabowski has explained this issue over the phone to me, however, that
doesn't mean I remember his explanation.  Chris, a memory refresh would be
great!  The answer to your question of what can be done to fix the issue is
nothing, well, not yet, anyway.  I am used to the ascending beeps and boops
by now, whether I like them or not.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 3:38 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Three beeps swhen shutting down computer, what do they mean, and
what can I do to get rid of them

Dear listers,

Still a few fun and games I suppose after the W10 upgrade. I am 
getting three descending beeps (beep, bop, boot), when I go to shut down my
computer. As I was given to understand when these beeps were ascending, it
might have had something to do with the video card. At that time, I was also
having issues with WE accessing and making use of my apps, and went through
the drastic step of a system restore. Now since I only upgraded last
Saturday afternoon, I don't think that it would benefit me much to do that,
because If I did, I might end up with a pre Windows 10 environment, or would
I?

I suppose that if this is really nothing to be concerned about, especially
if it happens on exit, then I wont, but it is a bit disconcerting to hear
these kind of things just popping up for no known or logical reason.

Any help in solving this little puzzle will be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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RE: Questions re installations

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi Don.  You don't have to have a bersion 9.4 cd.  Even though when you
access the downloads page, and you hear the message that you are running the
most current version of Window-eyes, you can tab to the download button and
download Window-eyes 9.4.  After it downloads it will install over itself.
You have the right idea, but you don't have to be concerned.  The option to
download and install the most current version of Window-eyes is always on
the downloads page regardless of which version of Window-eyes is installed.
You won't hurt anything by installing Window-eyes over itself after it
downloads.

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 5:26 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Questions re installations

Morning all:

 

I am about to install we 9.4 on my windows 7 computer and see how she runs.

 

After installation and waiting a time, I want to install windows 10.

 

However, I am told that once windows 10 is installed, I need to reinstall
9.4 again.

 

I don't have a 9.4 cd, so, how do I install 9.4 again?

If I try to load from the we page, will I not get the message you are
already running 9.4?

Thanks

 

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RE: strange question

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I would like the answer to your question as well.  The words you are
hearing are run together.  The words are force pad driver tray window.  I
only hear that message spoken after I turn on my laptop from a cold
shutdown. Now I'm going to put the two words together.  Forcepad driver tray
window. When the two words are put together, I heard the words as if they
were spoken after turning on the laptop.

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 6:45 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: strange question


When I turn on the computer and Window-Eyes announces itself, it says
something that sounds like "percepta drive tray window." What does this
mean?

HP Pavilion laptop, Windows 8, most recent version of WE.

Peace.
Linette


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RE: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

[Michael Massey via Talk]

I think the word is supposed to be period.  I did a double take when I heard
the word as well.  I had to find it and arrow through it. The context of the
message helped me figure out what the misspelled word was.  

Mike M.  

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Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Alan Siman ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time



What is a peruid?

Peace.
Linette



On 3/8/2016 10:25 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:
> This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4
>
> If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it 
> was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.
>
> WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then 
> reads the rest of the message correctly.
> On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>> Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
>> When I open A message in Thunderbird.
>> And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and 
>> then.
>> Go back and read the first part over again.
>> I didn't do this before I upgraded.
>> So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
>> Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
>> not happen?
>> If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and 
>> give us A way to fix it.
>>
>>
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RE: WE 9.4

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Dave.  Well, it looks like the joke is on us Window-eyes users, smile.
I read Net Bat's e-mail which stated you don't get an e-mail about the
update to version 9.4, and lo and behold, right after his e-mail, I came
across the e-mail Aaron posted alerting us that the update is available.  

You mentioned that after you reboot your computer from a complete shut down
that you are notified of the update.  However, I am an early riser, and so I
turn on my computers before Ai Squared opens.  Were it not for one of the
list members mentioning that the 9.4 update was available, I wouldn't have
known.  I eventually would have checked for the update from the help menu,
but thanks to Aaron's e-mail, I don't have to. And of course, I'm using
version 9.4.   

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 11:00 AM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: WE 9.4

To get the 9.4 update, try shutting down your system.  This means all the
way off, not a Re-boot.

As the system comes up, this is when my own system started the 9.4 update
download.


--
Dave 

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RE: app update today

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  The setup wizard app used to be called the quick start wizard.  Since
Zoom Text Fusion's release a couple of months ago, the name of the app was
changed to the Setup Wizard app.  The setup wizard is the app that runs when
you install or reinstall Window-eyes.  When the app launches, it allows the
user to set the speech rate, your Braille display settings, the choice of
synthesizer, etc. etc.  Every time an app is updated, I check the
information about the update modifications on the app central site.  Hope
that helps.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 4:34 PM
To: Window Eyes 
Subject: app update today

Hi,
Just received the notice to update two apps.  One is called "setup wizard".
Can anyone inform me what this app does?


Thanks
Neville.
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RE: selecting text

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel free to
jump in here, smile.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:50 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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Radio buttons not announcing checked status using Google Chrome

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Today I went online to my bank's website using Google Chrome.  I
entered my bank's website address focusing the address bar by pressing
alt-d.  After I logged in, I used the transfer feature to send money to my
selected recipients.  When I checked the boxes to transfer the funds
immediately, the state of the radio buttons would not properly announce the
status.  I know that the radio buttons were checked because I was able to
complete the transactions.  The radio buttons still announced that they were
unchecked.  I hope that this issue will be resolved in the next release of
Window-eyes.  

 

Mike M.  

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RE: Anybody besides me ever used Anyburn with WE?

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Mike.  I have tried several times to play your presentation.  I can't
get it to play.  When I press enter on the link you provided, I am taken to
a page to sign up for Drop Box.  I have a Drop Box account, however, I just
want to listen to the file by pressing either alt-s or alt-o but those
keystrokes don't come up as options.  Could you please tell me how to play
your file without necessarily putting it in my Drop Box?  

I'm not one who saves files.  I want the file to play with the same ease I
played the Count Your Blessings Mp3.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Mike Bernard via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:08 PM
To: 'Robert Ringwald' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Anybody besides me ever used Anyburn with WE?

Hi Robert,
It's a software program that allows those of us who use screen readers to
easily burn and rip audio cds. The program can also do other things. Here's
a link to an audio tutorial that a friend of mine and I did on the Tek-talk
program from accessible world:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nu1i7c8chx8hazt/tt-11-30-15-anyburn-program.mp3?dl
=0
If you have any questions, feel free to email or skype either of us, our
contact information is mentioned in the audio tutorial.
Mike
Rochester, NY.

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Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:25 PM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Anybody besides me ever used Anyburn with WE?

What is anyburn?



-Original Message-
From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 5:05 PM
To: Larry Higgins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Anybody besides me ever used Anyburn with WE?

Larry,

When the Next button is focused hit Control-Insert-F to label the field
name.

Hth,
Tom


On 12/28/2015 7:35 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> Recently I became aware of a free cd burning program called "Anyburn." 
> I have been using it off and on for a couple of weeks now , and I 
> think I've gotten the total hang of it. It is really very simple to 
> use, and in that respect, it beats Nero in terms of its simplicity and 
> straight ford interface. However, the following had me kind of 
> flummoxed, but once, I, with some sighted help, was made aware that a 
> button wasn't being properly represented by WE. this was the next 
> button,  which WE was reading as backslash, as well as read only.  I 
> tried looking at  the window through Virtual view, and the button read
properly.
>
> So, what is going on here, and is there any way I can change the class 
> to represent the proper button style, or should I, now that I have 
> figured it out, just leave it alone?
>
> This program is really worth working with if you need to burn or rip 
> cds, but something like this can really set one back, that is unless 
> you just like hitting enter on God only knows what and hoping for the
best.
> I mean, a read only box with backslash just didn't add up to next for me.
>
> Any advice or comments on this slightly puzzling issue?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
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App Get

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Just a few minutes ago, I turned on both my laptop and desktop
computers, both running Windows 10.  After the laptop booted up and
Window-eyes 9.3.1 launched, I was notified of an update available.  So I
installed it.  Yet when I check the installed updates in the add or remove
dialog, there is no update showing as being installed today.  When I checked
the package manager to determine which updates are running, I hear that the
app get update is version 1.2.5, but the apps shown as running display a
version number 1.2.4.  Could somebody please tell me why the app get version
numbers don't match?  And can somebody tell me which update was installed on
my laptop after I am certain I heard the tone notifying me of an update and
an update downloaded and installed?  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: an upgrade question

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Jesse.  If you wish, you could upgrade right now.  The servers run the
list, download the upgrades, and so on.  It is best to try upgrading
Window-eyes during low traffic periods.  You can upgrade during business
hours as well.  My point is this.  Try to upgrade Window-eyes to the current
version when internet traffic is likely to be low--you know, early morning,
late evening, weekends, yada yada yada.  The servers were jammed when
Window-eyes 9.3 was released on Wednesday.  I didn't get the upgrade until
sometime after 5:00 p.m. mountain time.  .  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Jesse via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 11:47 AM
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Subject: an upgrade question

Hi guys.  If trying to upgrade online, can it be done right away as in
weekends or overnight, or is that best done during busniess hours?
Thanks.
Jesse
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Introducing Window-eyes 9.3

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I must say that trying to download the Window-eyes 9.3 has been an
exercise in patience.  Of course, the day's not over yet.  After each
attempt to download the upgrade has failed due to the servers being jammed,
I have shouted choice words which I will not put into this e-mail.  Use your
imagination folks  I have yet to miss installing a Window-eyes upgrade on
the day of release.  Have patience folks.  .  

 

Mike M. 

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Window-eyes 9.3

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Well, I finally got the Window-eyes 9.3 downloaded and installed on my Dell
Xps desktop and my Dell Xps laptop running Windows 10.  On the desktop
computer after I pressed the enter key to restart the computer, the computer
appeared to restart, but Window-eyes did not seem to launch.  I had to do a
hard shut down, the Window-eyes shut down sound played, then the computer
restarted when I pressed the power button.  After Window-eyes launched, the
default apps installed, and then the setup wizard launched.  On my laptop
computer, the installation went well, the computer restarted and Window-eyes
9.3 launched without the setup wizard.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: Windows Update Warning

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Correct, but Pastor Gil mentioned that he hid the update in order to prevent 
the icon from appearing again.  Yet, he had to hide the update again.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:51 AM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Windows Update Warning

That is the update that puts the Windows Update icon in the sys tray.
- Original Message - 
From: "Pastor Gil Pries via Talk" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17 AM
Subject: Windows Update Warning


> Hi,
>
> I checked for updates this morning and there was another update KB3035583.
> I don’t know if it is the same update as before, because I hid it.
> I hid this one also to be safe.
>
> Pastor Gil
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RE: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

[Michael Massey via Talk]

I have the hourly chime app installed, and it is speaking using Window-eyes
9.2 under Windows 10.  I use the male voice on my desktop computer and the
female voice on my laptop computer.  Try uninstalling and reinstalling the
hourly chime app.  I've had to do that sometime back prior to Windows 10's
release in July, smile.  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of tt8 via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:47 AM
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Subject: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

title says it all, seems hourly chime will not "
speak with win10,
anyone else found this to be true?
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RE: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

[Michael Massey via Talk]

You can find the hourly chime app from the app central website which is
where all Window-eyes apps are archived.  However, a quicker way to download
and install the app can be obtained from the app get app by pressing the
windows key g combination to launch the app.  After the app launches press
the find command key and type hourly chime.  Take it from there.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 11:37 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

Where can I find the hourly chime app?



-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:49 AM
To: 'Michael Massey' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

Hi,

I've even found that, under Windows 10 x64, the HotSpot app stops listening
for hot keys I've set up, forcing me to restart the app in order for them to
work again.

Regards,

Rod

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Of Michael Massey via Talk
Sent: December 8, 2015 9:42 AM
To: 'tt8' <t.te...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

I have the hourly chime app installed, and it is speaking using Window-eyes
9.2 under Windows 10.  I use the male voice on my desktop computer and the
female voice on my laptop computer.  Try uninstalling and reinstalling the
hourly chime app.  I've had to do that sometime back prior to Windows 10's
release in July, smile.

Mike M.

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Behalf Of tt8 via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:47 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: hourly chime with windows 10, no longer speaking

title says it all, seems hourly chime will not "
speak with win10,
anyone else found this to be true?
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RE: annoying repetitive message

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  There is an updated Gw Toolkit app which is version 8.6.5 which was
released on November 6.  Since you are running Xp, I don't want to speculate
that updating to the latest Gw Toolkit app  will resolve any issues. Ai
Squared doesn't usually respond to those of us who submit error reports.
That statement is not a complaint; it is merely an observation, grin.

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kim Lingo via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: annoying repetitive message

Hi,
Every time I turn on my computer now, I get the following message.  I know 
it has something to do with the toolkit app, and I have even sent an error 
report to AI Squared, but haven't received an answer.  I guess that's 
because us XP users (and I'm sure I'm not the only one out there), are now 
the dead orphan stepchildren these days.  I get that technology moves on. 
Short of uninstalling the latest update to the toolkit app (which I'm not 
sure is a good idea), is there any way to get this message to stop?

The message is as follows:

An Error Occurred in GW Toolkit 8.6.4 (80070002)

Description: The system cannot find the file specified.

Line: 215

Path: C:\Program Files\GW 
Micro\Window-Eyes\users\default\gwtoolkit.vbs.wecrypt.wsf
Signed:

Active Window Title: My Computer, BROWSEUI, ExploreWClass
Active Window Set File: EXPLORER.set
Focused Window Module: SHELL32, SysListView32
Fusion Version: 8.4.0.0
Active Synthesizer: Vocalizer Expressive (Window-Eyes)
Active Braille Display: None
OS Version: 5.1 (2600) SP: 3.0
GW Toolkit: 8.6.4


If company people don't want to answer this, perhaps some one out there can 
contact me off-list.
Thanks,
Kim Lingo 


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RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Sam.  I'm not Aaron, but it is available right now, and it doesn't cost
any money, smile.  The virtual view app is part of Window-eyes.  You can get
the update in whatever manner you get updates. Maybe those of us who never
used the virtual view app will be inspired to use it.  As I commented to a
user privately, this is quite a major update, or Aaron wouldn't have sent an
e-mail blast.   

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sam Bushman via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:43 PM
To: 'Aaron Smith' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
; 'Marten Post Uiterweer' 
Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

When is it available and how much money?
Sam


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[mailto:talk-bounces+libertyroundtable=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:31 PM
To: Marten Post Uiterweer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

Hi, Marten.

It's all on your machine. Nothing happens remotely.

Thanks,

Aaron

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> -Original Message-
> From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:marte...@xs4all.nl]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:51 PM
> To: Aaron Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: Introducing Virtual View 5.0
> 
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> 
> Interesting, the ocr part.
> 
> How does it work? If you scan confidencial material, will it be ocr-ed 
> on your local computer or is the ocr done on a remote server of AI
squared?
> 
> Regards, Marten
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:33:51 + Aaron Smith via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Virtual View 5.0 now supports exciting new features such as the 
> > ability to
> OCR images from files or the screen, plus virtualizing various 
> document formats, including PDF files. Here are some other features:
> >
> > * You can open an image in any format (jpg, bmp, png, tiff,
etc.).
> > * If you press Alt-Print Screen to capture the active
window, Virtual
> View will automatically OCR it for you.
> > * The Virtual View options dialog lets you control image
manipulation
> to increase OCR success.
> > * Supports UAC, allowing you to get contents (specifically
UIA) from
> windows that are elevated.
> >
> > * Images inside PDF files are prepended with [BEGIN
IMAGE] and
> appended with [END IMAGE].
> > * You can choose several different kinds of file formats to
virtualize,
> including:
> >
> > * Txt
> >
> > * Html
> >
> > * Xml
> >
> > * Zip
> >
> > * And if you have Office installed:
> >
> > ?  Docx
> >
> > ?  Xlsx
> >
> > ?  Pptx
> >
> > Imagine a Word document filled with text boxes and word art. That
> information will show up as plain text when passed through Virtual View.
> Spreadsheets and PowerPoint presentations are the same way. If you 
> want to quickly skim a PowerPoint presentation without opening 
> PowerPoint, use Virtual View.
> >
> > With zip files, Virtual View can open the zip file and get the text 
> > of all text
> files. At the very least, you can get a list of the files in the archive.
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RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Gary, and others.  Please read Aaron's responses, Steven Clower's response,
and my responses.  The virtual view app is a Window-eyes update.  Check for
updates in whatever manner you choose.  Aaron sent the e-mail blast because
the virtual view app has what Ai Squared considers new and exciting
enhancements.  The virtual view app is a Window-eyes update, nothing more.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of g melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:17 PM
To: 'Aaron Smith' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

Where  do we get this file from.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 12:34 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Introducing Virtual View 5.0

Virtual View 5.0 now supports exciting new features such as the ability to
OCR images from files or the screen, plus virtualizing various document
formats, including PDF files. Here are some other features:

* You can open an image in any format (jpg, bmp, png, tiff,
etc.).
* If you press Alt-Print Screen to capture the active window,
Virtual View will automatically OCR it for you.
* The Virtual View options dialog lets you control image
manipulation to increase OCR success.
* Supports UAC, allowing you to get contents (specifically UIA)
from windows that are elevated.

* Images inside PDF files are prepended with [BEGIN
IMAGE] and appended with [END IMAGE].
* You can choose several different kinds of file formats to
virtualize, including:

* Txt

* Html

* Xml

* Zip

* And if you have Office installed:

?  Docx

?  Xlsx

?  Pptx

Imagine a Word document filled with text boxes and word art. That
information will show up as plain text when passed through Virtual View.
Spreadsheets and PowerPoint presentations are the same way. If you want to
quickly skim a PowerPoint presentation without opening PowerPoint, use
Virtual View.

With zip files, Virtual View can open the zip file and get the text of all
text files. At the very least, you can get a list of the files in the
archive.

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Red hot news from Ai Squared and a speech questionRE: Red Hot News from Ai Squared!

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Pam.  Here's the answer to your first question and also a 
comment.   Like you, I did not receive the message from the list itself, 
however, it was forwarded by one of the list members, smile.  The message 
contained html code which Window-eyes tries to read but it comes out as 
gibberish.  I decided that I would try to listen to the entire message for the 
heck of it.  At the bottom of the message there was text mentioning Zoom Text, 
however, I have tried not to mention this because I didn't want to get another 
unnecessary thread going, smile.  

As per your second question.  Yes, Window-eyes has the ability to have 
different voices for the screen, keyboard, and mouse, depending on which 
synthesizer you use.  I have a mouse voice set to be spoken in what I call a 
and I quote "mousey" voice whenever I press the numbpad keys.  I use Eloquence 
which allows this feature to work.  

I hope I answered your questions.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:44 AM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared!

So, where was the original message?  I'm on the list and I didn't get it. 
Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 3:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared!

Actually, Someone forwarded the message causing all the jibberish. The 
original was fine. lighten up people. We fuss if we don't hear from 
AISquared and now we fuss because they are letting us know that something 
good is coming soon.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephen Clark via Talk
  To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared!


  Actually, It was binary not text. I ran it through a binary editor, and
  had it try to extract any text it could find out of it and it found some
  text which said, we really don't care about all the problems with our
  screen reader at this point were way over are heads and there may never
  even be another Window-eyes version.
  On 10/19/2015 7:56 PM, David via Talk wrote:
  > Only thing I don't get, is why you would like to put any kind of
  > teaser out like this. Seems your screen reader needs more attention,
  > and things need a brush. Then to flush the market with a ton of
  > teasers, "look what we may bring soon", "Just wait till next year",
  > and so forth, seems no less than frustrating.
  >
  > besides, If this was meant to be a non-textual teaser, with only some
  > kind of iconic or even grapical appearance, why post it to a list that
  > mainly is trafficated by more or less blind people. Instead of
  > teasing, all you accomplished was to frustrate. Honestly, that is no
  > beneficial business approach.
  >
  > I do second the request, that you please keep this list freed from any
  > more of such stuff. We have enough complaints about people posting
  > Off-Topic matters here, let alone that we now have to deal with even
  > the list-managers themselves putting out mails that are nothing but
  > useless. You know, that is actually another version of what in the
  > computer world is named SPAM. Unwanted, non-requested and often
  > useless emails that float into your mailbox. If the owners of this
  > list find there is a bit too little traffic on the list, why not put
  > out something readable, informative, and REAL. Stop all that "Stay
  > tuned and we may happen to show you what we can do" stuff. Get back to
  > your customers, when you have things ready, and when you are willing
  > to share it in a manner that your customers actually know to read.
  > You, AISquared if any, should know what your screen reader can
  > perform. You would have absolutely no excuse for throwing out mails
  > like this, then telling the market "oh, sorry, we did not make it
  > accessible". Please, abstain from any more of this stuff.
  >
  > Among others, I did let the synth chatter away, for a minute or two,
  > trying to figure what it all was about. I immediately recognized it as
  > html-code, but sometimes you can figure a thing or two, from the few
  > pieces of text in between the code. This time, a clear waiste of time,
  > and afterwards, a long line of complaints. And when you come back with
  > further info on the matter, I really still am scratching my hair off,
  > to figure what it all was about, or meant to say. Your explanation,
  > Jeremy, simply gave NO meaning whatsoever. What was the whole message
  > trying to convey? That you had too much leasure time at work, or is it
  > possible we are to take this teaser seriously, and hope for an
  > anouncement in the near future about some exciting news from the
  > screen reader front? If the latter, why did you not just tell us so,
 

Red hot news from Ai Squared

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Jeremy.  While I don't work for Ai Squared, I couldn't resist answering
Vaughan's question in a joking manner.  Vaughan, Jeremy indicated that this
e-mail is for a teaser campaign for a product coming soon.  The campaign is
a teaser indeed!  We users are being teased with unreadable html code so
we'll wonder what product Ai Squared is going to release.  Sorry, but I
couldn't resist. Thanks Jeremy for trying to explain what image the
alternative text is supposed to describe.  A woman wearing a wig?  Who knew.
I have a feeling many an e-mail client stripped out the alternative text.
The html code doesn't sound like the description of a woman wearing a wig.
The word padding was included in the code, so perhaps the wig has padding?
Hmmm.  I wonder. Ok, ok, I'm done, I promise. 

 

Mike M. 

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RE: How to turn off speaking punctuation

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hello, Rick.  Here's how to turn off spoken punctuation.  Open the
Window-eyes control panel with ctrl-backslash.  Find the screen node and
expand it with the right arrow key.  Arrow down to punctuation and tab once
it is highlighted.  You'll come across various items such as math global and
various choices of items like off, dictionary only or just the word on.   I
have all items set to off.  That way, I only hear every character as I type.
So, I don't hear every dash, plus, dollar sign or any other punctuation for
that matter unless I press one of the punctuation keys, smile.I hope
this helps.  Incidentally, just to make sure I'd explain things as best as I
could, I followed the steps myself because once I set things the way I like
them in Window-eyes, I tend to forget them.  .  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Blair via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:23 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: How to turn off speaking punctuation

Hello list:

 

On one of my computers, I had turned on the feature to have WE speak
characters, like plus, minus, slash, etc. Looking through the WE control
panel, I cannot seem to find how to turn this off. I would think it is in
the verbosity settings, but I just can't seem to find it. Any help is
appreciated.

 

Thanks, rick

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Sudden loss of speech

[Michael Massey via Talk]

In order to avoid a deluge of e-mail asking what speech synthesizer I am
using when sudden loss of speech occurred, I am using Eloquence.  A list
member asked me already, and I replied to him privately.  So please, no more
questions about which synthesizer am I using.  That's what I get for
forgetting to mention this fact.  

 

Mike M. 

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Sudden loss of speech

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I am sending this message to the list in case anyone else has run into
this problem.  I am not complaining; I am merely explaining what happened
while I was going through my e-mail.  

 

I have two Dell computers and they're both running Windows 10 and
Window-eyes 9.2.  

 

Earlier this morning, I was checking my e-mail on my Dell Xps-501 laptop.
After I opened the third e-mail in Outlook 2013 and started reading it using
ctrl-shift-r, speech suddenly stopped.  I pressed the ctrl-alt-w hotkey
three times to launch Window-eyes 9.2.  The startup sound would play, but
speech would not come up.  I rebooted the machine hoping for an error report
and there wasn't one.  

 

Having said all of this, this brings me to ask these questions.  How can
speech suddenly stop and not generate an error report?  If no error report
is generated for Ai Squared engineers to look at, how can the problem of
sudden loss of speech be tracked down? If Ai Squared can find a way to fix
this problem, I'm all ears, smile. 

 

This doesn't happen often, so I must admit I never thought I'd be one of
those list members mentioning this issue.  I guess this is one of those
moments where there's a first time for everything, smile. My primary
computer is a Dell Xps-8500 desktop running Outlook 2013 as well.   

 

Mike M. 

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RE: window eyes 7 for me?

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Amit.  While I don't work for Ai Squared, but have been a Window-eyes
user for fifteen years, I am sure that it is safe to say that I'm afraid you
won't be able to obtain a copy of Window-eyes 7.0.  Once a new version of
Window-eyes is released, Ai Squared has a download for the most current
version.  Since Ai Squared assigns a serial number to each licensed user,
nobody will be able to provide a download of Window-eyes 7.0, or any
version, for that matter. To put this another way, once Ai Squared releases
a version of Window-eyes, there's no going back unless you happen to keep
Window-eyes cd's around.  If you were using Windows 10, Window-eyes 9.2 will
run, but any version of Window-eyes prior to 9.2 will not run under Windows
10. I keep Window-eyes cd's around for a particular series of versions, but
in the case of the Window-eyes 9.x series, the Window-eyes 9.1 and 9.0 cd's
will be of no use to me because I'm using Windows 10.

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of amit aggarwal via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 7:19 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: window eyes 7 for me?

hi all,
I am searching for window eyes 7.0.
can somebody please give me the link to download window eyes 7.0?
regards,
amit
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RE: browse mode on and off

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Sure.  Open the Window-eyes control panel with ctrl-backslash.  Find the
verbosity node and expand it with the right arrow key.  Next, find the
browse mode item in the list of items and expand it.  Next, find the item
that says auto load.  Tab to the set of four radio buttons.  If you want
browse mode to speak browse mode on or off, select the radio button to
indicate with speech and press ctrl-s to save the setting.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch K via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:42 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: browse mode on and off

Hello, can someone tell me how to set wineyes to say browse mode off, browse
mode on, instead of having it click. Thanks.

Butch

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Loss of focus while on the Bard website

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  A few minutes ago I was reading the information about the books added
to the bard site today.  As I was reading the information, suddenly the
words get started button were spoken.  This caused the reading to suddenly
stop.  I had to alt-tab back to the page in order to continue reading where
I left off because the up or down arrow keys wouldn't do anything when I
pressed them.  This used to happen to me when e-mail would arrive in the
inbox using Outlook 2013 under Windows 8.1.  I am using Window-eyes 9.2, the
latest Eloquence, and my preferred browser Internet Explorer or exploder as
some like to call it, hardy har har.  What get started button did
Window-eyes speak out of nowhere?  

Mike M. 

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Lost sounds, restored them, now sounds are distorted

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  The subject says it all.  My sounds are distorted once again.  I know
that I have to search for sounds in Windows 10, find the device to change
the sound card settings within the properties, but I seem to be missing a
step.  Could somebody please refresh my memory?  

Mike M. 

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RE: Question About Advanced

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Bob.  If you mean show advanced options, here's how to turn the feature
on.  

Open the Window-eyes control panel with ctrl-backslash.  Press the alt-h key
combination to open the help menu.  Use the up or down arrow keys to locate
the show advanced options item and press enter.  There you go.  When you
launch Window-eyes 9.2, you'll hear 13 items as opposed to seven.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:42 PM
To: Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Question About Advanced

WE 9.2
New Windows 10

How do I turn on the advanced setting on Window-Eyes?

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Upgrading to Window-eyes 9.2

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Bob.  Sorry, but I forgot the subject of your post regarding upgrading
to Window-eyes 9.2 from Window-eyes 9.0.  The readme clearly states that you
cannot install Window-eyes 9.2 over a version less than 8.x without
contacting Ai Squared.  Because you mentioned that you have Window-eyes 9.0,
you can download Window-eyes 9.2 from the website.  Go to the help menu by
opening the Window-eyes control panel with control backslash.  Press alt-h.
Use either the up or down arrow keys to navigate to check for updates.
Press enter.  A page will come up with various options.  Tab to the button
that says visit the website.  After that page loads find the download
upgrade button and press enter on it.  Follow the instructions and you'll be
good to go.  After Window-eyes 9.2 is installed then Windows 10 will
install.  I don't want to upset any of the list members but, it pays to read
the documentation, particularly in cases of upgrading Window-eyes.  I
checked the readme again so I would provide correct information.  You won't
have to buy a cd unless you choose to do so.  I buy a cd each time an
upgrade is released for my own peace of mind, smile.  A cd costs $20.  

Mike M 

P.S.  If you purchased a fotware maintenance agreement (s m a), the upgrade
won't count against your s m a.  Since you're upgrading from version 9.0,
you might have to pay $49, but don't quote me on that one, please?  I
upgraded from version 9.1, and the upgrade was free because I purchased a s
m a.  If I hadn't, I would have had to buy the 9.1 upgrade for $49  If I
provided any incorrect information or if someone can add anything to what I
have posted, please feel free, grin.  .   

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Lost Windows 10 sounds

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  This morning while perusing the interface to figure out how to check
for updates manually, I unintentionally created a problem of having lost all
sounds.  

Here's what happened.  I discovered a cumulative update for Windows 10, and
decided to manually restart the computer to install it rather than wait
until 2:30 a.m. tomorrow morning for the computer to shut down and restart
itself.  I pressed the restart button to restart the machine and install the
update.  Now, after the computer restarted, no sounds are generated.
Narrator won't even launch.  

I called the Microsoft disability answer desk and my sighted nephew could
see the desktop icons and even do a remote session with the representative.
My nephew was on the phone for about an hour and no progress was made.  The
issue has supposedly been escalated to a higher level technician for a call
back or an e-mail to resolve the issue.  

This issue happened using Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 on a Dell
Xps-8500 desktop pc.  My Dell Xps-501-L laptop is working fine after
installing the update or else I wouldn't be able to send this e-mail, smile.
I hope someone on this list can help.  I wonder if the installation of the
update when the machine was restarted caused the sounds to be muted.  ?  

Mike M. 

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RE: What is the status of Edge?

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Chris.  Edge is not yet accessible using Window-eyes or any of the other
screen readers out there.  Internet Explorer 11 is still available.  Once
Windows 10 is installed, press the Windows key.  You very likely will hear
the word Cortana, but don't despair, smile.  You're in a search box and can
type a search term.  In this case, type default browser.  Marc Solomon
provided a knowledge base article that explains how to change the setting to
the browser of your choice if you have more than one browser installed.
Also, please refer to the Window-eyes 9.2 readme document which also
explains how to set your browser of choice as the default browser.  I'm
using Internet Explorer 11 as my default browser.  To be fair, however, I do
have Firefox and Google Chrome installed.  If I have left anything out,
please add further comments.  Steve?  Marc?  Aaron?  Oh, and anyone else
reading this message, smile.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:04 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: What is the status of Edge?

Guys,

I've not gotten my update yet to Windows 10 that I know of, however, I do
want to ask.  I have been told that IE is no mo.  I hear they've replaced it
with a new browser called Edge.  I hear it's kind of, ish! like I E, but not
exactly.  I've been told that for a while, the accessibility was pretty
broken.  I'm just curious to know if Edge can be used reliably at this point
with W E 9.2?  I don't have a problem with Firefox per sé, but I'd prefer
using Edge, if it can be done.  If not though, then it's ok.  Just let me
know either way.

Chris.
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RE: WINDOWS 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Since it sounds like your upgrade to Windows 10 has started, and since
you mentioned that you are still hearing Window-eyes 9.2 speaking, all you
can do is wait.  The process can take up to perhaps five hours.  Window-eyes
will eventually stop speaking and eventually you'll hear Window-eyes
announce a message asking you if you wish to keep your settings as you have
them or if you only want to keep certain files.  Choose to leave things as
they are.  Once you do that you'll hear a message that your computer will
restart several times and that this could take a while.  Then Window-eyes
won't talk anymore.  Since Window-eyes will no longer be speaking,
periodically press the Windows key and the enter key together to launch
Narrator.  Once you can launch narrator, follow the instructions you hear,
and eventually your computer will launch Windows 10 and Window-eyes will
speak again.

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of stephen thacker via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 7:13 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS 10

Hi, I have a quod core pc jith cpu of 14.4ghz and ram of 8ghz, 
it's a 64 bit machine running Windows 8.1 and WE9.2. It's been 
trying to install Windows 10 all day. Firstly I came up with an 
x80240016 error and it asked me to remove a corrupt version 7 of 
java and then t updated my avg anivilus. It's now checking for 
updates and preparing for install but it's been there oler 3 
hours. Should I be wooried and is there anything I can do other 
than wait? The speech seems to be still reading everything ok or 
I wouldn't know what was going on as I'm totally blind and live 
on my own.

Looking forward to any advice, Steve
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RE: Observations using Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.2

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Correction.  The number is 1-800936-5900.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:18 PM
To: Milton mdi...@rochester.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: Observations using Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.2

I believe the number is:

(800) 936-5800

On 8/4/2015 8:27 PM, Milton via Talk wrote:
 Do you have the phone number for Microsoft assibily desk?

 -Original Message- From: Michael Massey via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 4:12 AM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: Observations using Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.2

 Hi.  The information I'm about to pass along to the list members are not
 complaints.  They are observations.



 I reserved my copies of Windows 10 to install on my Dell Xps-8500 desktop
 computer running Windows 8.1, and for my Dell Xps-501-L laptop running
 Windows 7 home 64 bit.  On Sunday morning I heard Window-eyes 9.2 
 begin to
 speak as if something was being installed on my desktop computer, but 
 didn't
 pay close attention, and I didn't think much of it.  Yesterday I 
 happened to
 check Windows updates and found at least a dozen download failed 
 updates of
 Windows 10 home upgrade.  With the help of the Microsoft accessibility
 answer desk I was able to download and install Windows 10.  I am now 
 hearing
 what sounds like the Window-eyes startup sound twice.  The sound is also
 very distorted, so I have to turn the sound bars volume down a bit.



 Later yesterday I had to have the Microsoft Accessibility answer desk
 representative help me get Windows 10 downloaded so I could install it 
 for a
 similar issue.  There were only two failed updates and I didn't hear
 Window-eyes speak when the updates were being downloaded.  The 
 Window-eyes
 sound is also distorted.  I tried to redownload and run the 
 Window-eyes 9.2
 upgrade and install it, but the progress reached 80 percent and 
 generated a
 Windows error I believe.  I now cannot find my downloads folder after
 upgrading the Windows 7 computer to Windows 10.  I tried searching for
 downloads and nothing would come up.  How do I find my downloads folder
 Thanks.  ?



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Observations using Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.2

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  The information I'm about to pass along to the list members are not
complaints.  They are observations.  

 

I reserved my copies of Windows 10 to install on my Dell Xps-8500 desktop
computer running Windows 8.1, and for my Dell Xps-501-L laptop running
Windows 7 home 64 bit.  On Sunday morning I heard Window-eyes 9.2 begin to
speak as if something was being installed on my desktop computer, but didn't
pay close attention, and I didn't think much of it.  Yesterday I happened to
check Windows updates and found at least a dozen download failed updates of
Windows 10 home upgrade.  With the help of the Microsoft accessibility
answer desk I was able to download and install Windows 10.  I am now hearing
what sounds like the Window-eyes startup sound twice.  The sound is also
very distorted, so I have to turn the sound bars volume down a bit.  

 

Later yesterday I had to have the Microsoft Accessibility answer desk
representative help me get Windows 10 downloaded so I could install it for a
similar issue.  There were only two failed updates and I didn't hear
Window-eyes speak when the updates were being downloaded.  The Window-eyes
sound is also distorted.  I tried to redownload and run the Window-eyes 9.2
upgrade and install it, but the progress reached 80 percent and generated a
Windows error I believe.  I now cannot find my downloads folder after
upgrading the Windows 7 computer to Windows 10.  I tried searching for
downloads and nothing would come up.  How do I find my downloads folder
Thanks.  ?  

 

Mike M. 

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Windows 10 upgrade

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Ok, I will try my best to answer the questions as to how you know when
your Windows 10 upgrade is ready to install.  For further information,
please see my earlier posts concerning the difficulties I had upgrading to
Windows 10.  Like you, Brice, I reserved my upgrades to Windows 10 on two
computers.  For whatever reason, my Windows update history under Windows 8.1
showed at least a dozen failed upgrades.  My laptop running Windows 7 64 bit
home edition showed at least two failed upgrades.  I called the Microsoft
Accessibility Answer Desk on three occasions and the reps remotely accessed
the computers and downloaded the upgrades manually.  If things will work as
they're supposed to work, you should be notified by Window-eyes when you're
download is taking place.  Once the download is finished, you should hear a
notification that it is ready to install.  Depending upon the speed of your
internet connection and because the download file is about four gigs, it
could take several hours to download and install.  Each download and
installation took about five hours.  Remember, once the installation begins,
Window-eyes will not talk.  During the installation as Doug Geoffray
indicated in an e-mail to a list member, you will need to use narrator to
finish the installation and setup before Window-eyes 9.2 comes up talking.
Your computer will restart several times, and before Window-eyes stops
talking, a message will be spoken that says something like this.  Your
computer will restart several times and this could take a while.  Oh, and
once you upgrade to Windows 10, the failed updates will of course be
removed.  As we're all in the habit of saying, hope that helps.  

 

Mike M  

 

P.S.  During the installation while Window-eyes is not talking, periodically
press the Windows key and the enter key to launch Narrator.  If Narrator
speaks, follow the prompts.  At the risk of sounding like I'm bragging, this
is my first installation of a Windows upgrade I have done without sighted
help thanks to Doug's instructions, Window-eyes 9.2 being able to remain
installed, and let us not forget Narrator.. 

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RE: I don't have to sign into Windows 10 to use Cortana, thanks Chris.

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Vince.  Cortana is a feature in Windows 10 similar to the voice assistant
called Seri used on Apple devices such as I-phones.  You will need a headset
microphone, or if you have a laptop with a built-in hands free microphone,
you would be able to use Cortana.  As an example, you could ask Cortana what
the weather conditions are in your area.  Or, as some list members have
stated, Cortana can tell jokes.  Having said all of this, I am still waiting
for my upgrade notification from Microsoft, so I don't yet have Cortana,
smile.  If I misspelled the Apple I-phone voice assistant's name, I
certainly didn't mean to.   

Mike M 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Vince via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 5:43 AM
To: 'Kevin Minor' kmino...@outlook.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: I don't have to sign into Windows 10 to use Cortana, thanks
Chris.

What is Cortana? And what does it do?

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vince=sealakeyachts@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin Minor via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:11 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: I don't have to sign into Windows 10 to use Cortana, thanks Chris.

Hi all.

 

I want to thank Chris for the instructions to get rid of the Windows
password.  I now can have Windows 10 boot directly to the desktop.  It takes
a while to get there, but eventually it does.  Cortana works great!

 

Just for your information, and thanks again, Chris.

 

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Redefining a hotkey

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Earlier this morning I heard the progress bar indicator giving
percentages of a program downloading in the background.  I was trying to
figure out which program was installed by accessing the programs and
features list in the Windows 8.1 control panel.  Well, I was trying to
uninstall unnecessary programs, particularly the Window-eyes 9.1 program.
Bad move!  I have had to reinstall Window-eyes 9.1, then 9.2, but in the
process of doing so, the ctrl-shift-question key combination has become
undefined.  Steven Clower told me that the key can sometimes become
undefined.  I can't seem to find the ctrl-shift-question key combination in
the hotkeys list.  I don't know why I can't find the hotkey.  Short of
uninstalling and reinstalling the Office 2013 sets and the Outlook Enhanced
app which Chris did during a remote assistant session, can't I simply just
try redefining the hotkey?  That is, if I could just find it.  I'm going to
go back to the hotkeys list yet again.  ?  Thanks.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: Redefining a hotkey

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hey, Lou.  I give up.  Off and on, throughout the day, I have tried to get
the control-shift-question Key combination redefined and have had no luck.
I've uninstalled the 2013 sets, reinstalled them, and even uninstalled and
reinstalled the Office 2013 sets and the Outlook Enhanced app.  I usually
don't try to define, assign or undefine and redefine hotkeys, so I am lost
on this one.  I was trying to send you a private e-mail, but when I tried to
read your e-mail address after replying to this post, I couldn't read your
e-mail address character by character.  Window-eyes would read your address
in rapid fire succession as per usual. I am going to have to be instructed
step by step on how to deal with the hotkey combination not working as
expected.  Oh, on my laptop computer running Windows 7 64 bit, the hotkey
combo won't work either.  This makes me wonder if shutting down and
restarting the computers causes the hotkey to become undefined.   Thanks.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 7:47 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Redefining a hotkey

Hey, Mike.

You should be able to redefine it, yes. Control-Shift-question mark is the
program help hot key, located in miscellaneous of the hot keys tree view
node. It's the second press of the letter p. It's set to global.

hth,
Lou N.

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[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Massey via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 7:07 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Redefining a hotkey

Hi.  Earlier this morning I heard the progress bar indicator giving
percentages of a program downloading in the background.  I was trying to
figure out which program was installed by accessing the programs and
features list in the Windows 8.1 control panel.  Well, I was trying to
uninstall unnecessary programs, particularly the Window-eyes 9.1 program.
Bad move!  I have had to reinstall Window-eyes 9.1, then 9.2, but in the
process of doing so, the ctrl-shift-question key combination has become
undefined.  Steven Clower told me that the key can sometimes become
undefined.  I can't seem to find the ctrl-shift-question key combination in
the hotkeys list.  I don't know why I can't find the hotkey.  Short of
uninstalling and reinstalling the Office 2013 sets and the Outlook Enhanced
app which Chris did during a remote assistant session, can't I simply just
try redefining the hotkey?  That is, if I could just find it.  I'm going to
go back to the hotkeys list yet again.  ?  Thanks.  

 

Mike M. 

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Outlook 2013 under Windows 7

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I've been on the phone with a Microsoft accessibility answer desk
representative for the second time this afternoon.  Here's why.  

 

When I first contacted the Microsoft Accessibility answer desk, I wanted the
title bar in Outlook 2013with the inbox open to read exactly the same on
both my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and my laptop computer running
Windows 7 64 bit.  In order to do that, the representative had to create a
new Outlook 2013 account on the Windows 7 laptop computer.  She was able to
do that, but then everything in Outlook 2013 on my laptop was reading e-mail
grouped by dates and however it reads by default.  The second
representative tried to compare the settings on my desktop computer running
Outlook 2013 and managed to get the messages to read more like a list view.
However, now none of the messages in the inbox or my saved e-mail folders on
my laptop computer will  indicate whether they are read or unread like they
do on the desktop computer.For whatever reason, when I press the
ctrl-shift-question keystroke to read the set up information with Outlook
2013 open, the dialog will not read on either computer.All I hear is the
word question.  This has happened before.  I wish I had left well enough
alone because the 2010 pst file transferred the settings from version 2010
to 2013 on my laptop computer just fine.  That's what I get for being so
picky.  I am running Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 8.1 and under Windows 7
64 bit.  I'm grasping at straws here.  The representative wants to escalate
the case and she has provided me with a case number.  I probably will have
to find Marc Solomon's webinar to help me get Outlook 2013 working the way
I'd like it to.  I wanted to call Ai Squared for support but it is too
late in the day.  What a mess!  .

 

Mike M. 

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Outlook 2013 under Windows 7

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  It seems that no matter what I have tried, my messages still will not
display as read or unread no matter which folder I select.  I have
downloaded Marc Solomon's webinar recording of part one of working with
Outlook 2013 and Window-eyes.  When I try following the steps to turn off
the preview payne, here's what happens.  Marc says to press alt-v to
activate the view menu.  Then he says to press the letter p twice in
succession to activate the people payne.  After the second press of the
letter p, the computer dings at me and I am unable to find any of the items
so I can turn the people payne off.  I hear line one, line two, line three.
When I press the uparrow key in the message list in the Outlook 2013 inbox,
I hear unread selected messages tree view.  When I press the delete key I
hear delete selected messages button.  With all of the discussion of whether
technical support is needed or not, I sure could use it now, smile  

 

Mike M. .

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RE: downloading windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Chris.  I am in the same situation as I am sure many of us who have reserved
a copy of Windows 10.  Yes, indeed, Microsoft is rolling out Windows 10 in
waves so as not to overload their servers.  In other words, this is one of
those situations where we'll have to wait to be notified.  Microsoft says
customers
 will be notified when Windows 10 is ready.  I haven't yet checked for the
links you mentioned such as get started, let's go, etc. etc.  I have a
feeling that the steps for installation will be easy to follow once Windows
10 is ready to install.  Microsoft mentions in the various faqs and other
information on the page where you reserved Windows 10 that it will be
downloaded in the background, and that when it is ready to install that
we'll be notified.  Nobody'll be left out, smile.  I haven't gotten an
e-mail either, but I am sure that I will.  Once I send this e-mail, I'm
going to check for the links you mentioned.

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:56 AM
To: Curtis Delzer curtis1...@verizon.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: downloading windows 10

So, how do you go about starting the update?  I haven't got an e-mail 
stating it's ready for me to install, and yes, I did reserve a copy back in 
the days.

The icon says I'll be notified, in the system tray, but I see links like get

started, let's go, reboot now, continue, etc.

Is it just that they are rolling it out little by little, or by now, should 
I have access to it?

If so, then someone needs to give me the exact steps to start it installing.

I know the whole thing about removing W E first, etc.  That's no issue.  I 
have NVDA as a backup, as well as jaws, so it's not the end of the world for

me.  Plus, there's always Narrator, so I'm not in a pickle.

I'm quite savvy with my technology, so if you can just give me the steps, I 
know beyond a doubt I can figure it out.

Chris.

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From: Curtis Delzer via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:12 AM
Subject: downloading windows 10


 At 12:01 local Pacific time I began the update to Windows 10.

 Easy, peezy.
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Opinion on moving from the paid version of we to the free version

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I purchased my first s m a about a month ago.  I'm speculating here,
but I feel that purchasing a software maintenance agreement was a wise
investment because if I hadn't purchased the agreement, I would have paid
the $49 plus whatever the next paid upgrade would cost, and for all I know I
might have spent about the same amount if not more.  Also, Ai Squared's free
unlimited technical support is some of the best in the technology field if
you have a fully licensed copy of Window-eyes.  I don't feel like paying for
support on a per incident basis.  The costs could add up, smile.  I'm
sticking with what I have.  

 

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RE: Using F8 in Browse Mode

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Matt.  Here's how to copy and paste text using the f8 key method.  Find
the beginning of the text you want to copy.  Press f8.  Using your arrow
keys find the end of the text and press f8 again.  Then as explained in an
earlier post, a dialog will pop up with three choices.  Pick the choice you
want.  The choices are copy plain text, copy with formatting, reset
selection or cancel.  You don't need to press any other keys.  As the
earlier post mentioned, the new copy method is how sighted people copy and
paste text.  The readme clearly mentions this in the section explaining the
changes between Window-eyes 8.4 and 9.0.  The readme file is a valuable
resource which can help answer some of the questions posted to this list.  I
used the copy and paste text method using the f8 key and it works
beautifully.  And, oh yes, I am one of those who advocate for those who
would like to be able to use the traditional text selection method in
addition to the f8 copy and paste method.

Speaking of referring to the readme, or the e-mail Doug Geoffray posted
explaining how to install Windows 10 using Window-eyes 9.2 if you have it
installed, keep it around and go over it because it also is a valuable piece
of information.  I tried to e-mail Doug privately but I got the e-mail
address wrong, and of course it bounced, smile.  .  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:08 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Using F8 in Browse Mode

Hi, Folks.  Have read the email on the F8 key, but can't seem to get 
it to work.  I started at the beginning of where I wanted to 
highlight text, pressed control-shif-end, f8, followed by c, and got 
unable to copy to clipboard.  What am I doing wrong?  This is more 
confusing than the original of just highlighting and hitting 
control-c.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao

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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from the
help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my laptop
running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same error Loy
mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade installed on the day
of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as in the past.  I have
personal business to take care of later on today, and so if I don't get the
upgrade downloaded and installed before that time, that will allow more time
for a break, smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved
my copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to
go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up to
the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word, smile.  .


 

Mike M. 

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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Here's a follow up message.  Just before I started to type this e-mail, I
received two different messages when trying to download Window-eyes 9.2.
The first message that came up was a message telling me that an active
internet connection is required to download the upgrade.  I tried the bard
website and the page came right up.  I then once again tried to download
Window-eyes 9.2, but rather than waiting a few minutes for the error to be
generated, the error generated immediately when pressing the enter key.
This scenario occurred using Internet Explorer 11.  Yes, I have Firefox and
Google Chrome installed  And I received the second error message twice
immediately when pressing the enter key.  .  

 

Well, after I send this message, I'm gonna give the download another whirl,
smile.  

 

Mike M. 

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RE: Checking Maintainance Agreement

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Mike.  Here are the steps I follow to check the status of the software
maintenance agreement. Open the Window-eyes control panel as usual. Press
alt-h to open the help menu.  Press up or down arrow until you come to check
for updates and press enter.  Since Window-eyes 9.2 has become available,
the page is displaying differently  I just now tried to access the page
again and had to tab to the visit update website button since I'm not
certain focus is on the button or not.When the page opens, Focus is on the
button which I verified..  After the page opens where you check for
updates, press enter on the visit update website.  Since there is a lot of
internet traffic because people are trying to download the upgrade, the page
may not load.  But if it does load, use the usual navigation keys to find
the status of your s m a if you have paid for one.  For the person who asked
if the upgrade is a paid upgrade, if you have a software maintenance
agreement, the upgrade is free.  Please refer to the readme which clearly
explains the upgrade information.  I would suggest contacting Ai Squared to
find out about the price of an upgrade is you don't have an s m a.  To be
fair, I'm going to go over the readme file again.  The check for updates
page still will not load.

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 10:22 AM
To: Vai talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Checking Maintainance Agreement

Where do I go to see if I have anything left in my Maintainance aggrement?



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Well, Window-eyes 9.2 is now running on my Dell Xps-8500 desktop pc running
Windows 8.1 and on my Dell Xps-l501 laptop running Windows 7.  Patience and
time has indeed paid off.  Keep up the great work Ai Squared!  Now let's all
enjoy the next step upgrading to Windows 10 or getting a new computer with
Windows 10.  

 

Mike M. 

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Office Updates

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, all.  I hope someone on this list can give me a little bit of a memory
jog, smile.  

 

Shortly after I turned on my Dell Xps-8500 desktop running Windows 8.1 and
Office 2013, a notification popped up telling me that there are updates for
Office available.  But when I found the item in the system tray, pressing
enter on the item didn't do anything.  So, I tabbed to the double left click
button and pressed enter on that button.  Still nothing happened.  Now when
I try to focus on the button in the system tray, the Office updates are
available notification is read followed by the word button.  Then I also
hear stuff like Winamp agent button, Window-eyes, and maybe any other items
in the system tray.  And when I try to tab after highlighting the Office
updates button, the tab key won't work now.  

 

Could someone on this list refresh my memory as to how to get the updates to
install?  If not, then I'll call the Microsoft Accessibility answer desk
number.  The representatives have been a god send in my humble opinion.
Here's the number in case someone isn't aware of it.  The number is:
1-800-936-5900.  Oh, my Dell Xps-501-l laptop running Office 2013 under
Windows 7 64 bit home edition, hasn't given me the notification yet  Thanks
for reading, smile.  .  

 

Mike M. 

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Windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Steven.  While I do not work for Ai Squared, I think I can answer your
questions in this manner.  Yes, other screen reader companies are saying
that their next updates are ready to be used with Windows 10.  Yes, Ai
Squared mentioned that Window-eyes 9.1 has preliminary support for Windows
10.  This leads me to believe that the next version of Window-eyes which is
going to be version 9.2 will be ready for Windows 10.  I can understand your
questions because Ai Squared has said very little about Window-eyes 9.2.
What I am saying is this.  Ai Squared wouldn't have its customers be unable
to use Window-eyes with Windows 10.  Ai Squared has mentioned that
Window-eyes 9.2 will be released soon.  How soon?  Nobody knows except the
Ai Squared staff, smile.  I've been using Window-eyes since April of 1999,
and Window-eyes has kept up with every Windows operating system since
Windows 95.  When I started using Window-eyes, I used version 3.0 under
Windows 98.  Ai Squared won't let us down, in my humble opinion. I'm pretty
sure you'll be able to upgrade to Windows 10 just fine.  .

 

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RE: Finding All Programs

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  I hope the steps I give you will be of help to you.  Access the control
panel in whatever manner you use.  A trick one of the list members suggested
to access the control panel when Windows 8.0 was released work the same way
in Windows 8.1.  Here are the never forgotten steps I use, smile.  Press the
Windows key and the letter x.  You'll have a list of items and in the list
of items I press the letter p followed by enter.  The control panel opens.
When the control panel opens, if you find a button that says category, press
enter on it.  Then, find a button that says large or small icons.  Press
enter on the large icon button.  Then you should be able to find your
programs under programs and features by first letter navigation.  Here's a
heads up to the list member who provided the steps.  I plan to e-mail you
privately when Windows 10 is closer to release.  Thanks again for your
instructions, and you know who you are, grin.  .  

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 7:40 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Finding All Programs

Using Windows-8.1 and WE 9.1.  How can I find all my programs?  I tried 
the control panel but not everything is there.
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RE: question about wineyes with windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Yes, it is still offered for free from the date of it's release which is
supposed to be July 29.  

Mike M. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of John Chilelli via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:25 PM
To: 'Christopher-Mark Gilland'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question about wineyes with windows 10

Hi.

Is it still offered for free?

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Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:07 PM
To: Michael Massey; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question about wineyes with windows 10

Can someone please give me step by step directions on how to un? reserve my 
copy of Windows 10?  I did so, reserving it, but now am actually having 2nd 
thoughts.  I know it can be done, just don't know exactly how.

Chris.

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To: 'Rick Jarvis' r.jarvi...@hotmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: question about wineyes with windows 10


 Rick.  The item in the system tray is a notification that you can reserve
 your copy of Windows 10 which will be released on July 29.  If you reserve
 Windows 10, Microsoft will notify you so you can download it.  Windows 10
 can be installed at your convenience.  As to whether or not if it is safe 
 to
 download and install Windows 10, I don't feel that I'm qualified to answer
 that question.  Windows 10 is still in beta and I'm not one of those who 
 is
 brave enough to try public betas of Windows 10 or any other public 
 previews
 of Microsoft products.

 Mike M

 P.S.  If you click on the notification regarding Windows 10, you should be
 taken to a website explaining all you need to know.  .

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:03 PM
 To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Subject: question about wineyes with windows 10

 Hello I have a question about win-eyes 9.1 and windows 10.  Will
 win-eyes 9.1 work with windows 10?  I havbe a button in my notification
 area that will allow me to download windows 10.  Is it safe to do so,
 and still use win-eyes 9.1?  Thanks for any info.  Rick
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RE: Windows 10 Question

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Well, you can't get the item out of the system tray.  It's not hurting
anything.  You canceled your reservation for Windows 10, therefore, you have
nothing to be concerned about.  From the various comments, I am thinking
that folks are making more out of the issue than there really is.   in my
opinion.  Even if you hadn't canceled your reservation for Windows 10, you
are under no obligation to install it.  All of the information is on the
site where you reserve or cancel your Windows 10 upgrade.  Oh, yes, I
reserved a copy of Windows 10 on my computer running Windows 8.1 as well as
my laptop running Windows 7 64 bit.  

Mike M 

P.S.  Like I mentioned earlier, I checked to see if the get Windows 10
button is in the system tray, and indeed it is still there.  I wasn't even
sure the button was in the system tray until I checked for it.  At least
Microsoft isn't forcing us to upgrade to Windows 10, although from comments
I have heard through the grapevine, I have a feeling that they are trying to
encourage their customers to upgrade, just like A I Squared encourages its
customers to upgrade Window-eyes, smile.  . 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:13 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows 10 Question

I canceled the reservation, but the windows 10 icon is still in my systray.
How do I get it out?

Thanks,

Pastor Gil
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RE: Windows 10 Question

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi.  You would go to the same page you accessed when you reserved your copy
of Windows 10.  Remember, even if you were to download Windows 10 when it is
released on July 29, you don't have to install it.  The item is still in the
system tray.  I checked for the get Windows 10 button and it is still there.


Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:38 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows 10 Question

Hi,
I reserved a copy of windows 10.
How do I cancle the reservation?

Pastor Gil
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RE: question about wineyes with windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Rick.  The item in the system tray is a notification that you can reserve
your copy of Windows 10 which will be released on July 29.  If you reserve
Windows 10, Microsoft will notify you so you can download it.  Windows 10
can be installed at your convenience.  As to whether or not if it is safe to
download and install Windows 10, I don't feel that I'm qualified to answer
that question.  Windows 10 is still in beta and I'm not one of those who is
brave enough to try public betas of Windows 10 or any other public previews
of Microsoft products.  

Mike M  

P.S.  If you click on the notification regarding Windows 10, you should be
taken to a website explaining all you need to know.  . 

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Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:03 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: question about wineyes with windows 10

Hello I have a question about win-eyes 9.1 and windows 10.  Will 
win-eyes 9.1 work with windows 10?  I havbe a button in my notification 
area that will allow me to download windows 10.  Is it safe to do so, 
and still use win-eyes 9.1?  Thanks for any info.  Rick
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RE: question about wineyes with windows 10

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Ok, could one of you who have tried public previews of Windows 10 please
answer Rick's question?  Sorry, Rick, but as I indicated in my previous
post, I don't try public betas of Windows.  That's why I can't answer your
question.  Let us know how you like Windows 10 using Window-eyes.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:23 PM
To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question about wineyes with windows 10

OK what if I want it?

On 6/23/2015 4:55 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
 I would not worry about that, you don't have to install it if you don't
 want it..
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 From: Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 To: Michael Massey masse...@q.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: question about wineyes with windows 10


 Can someone please give me step by step directions on how to un?
 reserve my copy of Windows 10?  I did so, reserving it, but now am
 actually having 2nd thoughts.  I know it can be done, just don't know
 exactly how.

 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: Michael Massey via Talk
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 To: 'Rick Jarvis' r.jarvi...@hotmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
 List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:54 PM
 Subject: RE: question about wineyes with windows 10


 Rick.  The item in the system tray is a notification that you can
 reserve
 your copy of Windows 10 which will be released on July 29.  If you
 reserve
 Windows 10, Microsoft will notify you so you can download it.
 Windows 10
 can be installed at your convenience.  As to whether or not if it is
 safe to
 download and install Windows 10, I don't feel that I'm qualified to
 answer
 that question.  Windows 10 is still in beta and I'm not one of those
 who is
 brave enough to try public betas of Windows 10 or any other public
 previews
 of Microsoft products.

 Mike M

 P.S.  If you click on the notification regarding Windows 10, you
 should be
 taken to a website explaining all you need to know.  .

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 Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:03 PM
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 Subject: question about wineyes with windows 10

 Hello I have a question about win-eyes 9.1 and windows 10.  Will
 win-eyes 9.1 work with windows 10?  I havbe a button in my notification
 area that will allow me to download windows 10.  Is it safe to do so,
 and still use win-eyes 9.1?  Thanks for any info.  Rick
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Is Windows 10 accessible?

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Although I do not work for A I Squared, I'm going to comment on this thread
based on logic and common sense.  

 

Russ, thanks for pointing the issues out concerning whether or not Windows
10 will work with current pc's.  Despite the fact that display issues and
other compatibility issues were detected by the check pc feature, I'm
willing to make a friendly wager that A I Squared and Freedom Scientific
will get things sorted out before the final release of Windows 10.  A I
Squared hasn't even put together a presentation about Window-eyes and its
interaction with Windows 10.  The July 29 release date gives the screen
reader developers plenty of time to resolve the various issues.  Let's give
A I Squared the benefit of the doubt.  I'll bet that the folks at A I
Squared know things regarding the upcoming release of Windows 10 that they
won't comment on for confidential reasons.

 

Mike M. 

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Seeking your input

[Michael Massey via Talk]

I would like to see o c r capability because it is incorporated into other
screen readers.  I would also like to have the ability to be able to have
the keyboard be able to interact with buttons that require a mouseclick on
such sites as Walmart.com or amazon.com payment sites.  I would like
Window-eyes to be better at detecting error reports.  What I mean by that is
that occasionally Window-eyes generates an error report causing the need to
shut down and reboot the computer.  After the computer is rebooted, the
error report can't be found in the help section. If Window-eyes generated an
error report, why is it that sometimes an error report is not found after a
reboot? 

 

Mike M. 

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RE: subscribe

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Kim.  You are already subscribed because your messages have been coming
through to the list.  When Ai Squared made the changes to the list, list
subscribers were switched to the new list.  List traffic has merely slowed
down to pretty much a trickle.  You asked if the list is still around.  It
most certainly is.  

Mike M. 

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:44 AM
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RE: is anyone using the vocalizer expriseve voices if so what do you think of them?

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Casey.  When I found the last word at the end of the message above your
signature, I couldn't for the life of me figure out what you meant by
equalence.  I was like, huh?  Then it hit me.  Oh, you meant Eloquence,
smile.  That is my preferred synthesizer.  I purchased the Vocalizer
Expressive voices, but I don't really use them, so I don't feel I should
comment as to whether or not I like them.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 6:58 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: is anyone using the vocalizer expriseve voices if so what do you
think of them?

hi I was thinking about purchasing the vocalize expressive voices is 
anyone using them and if so what do you think of them?
Or what synthesizers are people using other the that they like and neo 
speech?
I have the regular vocalize voices so that is why I am asking?

equalence
-- 
Casey
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RE: unsubscribe

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Kathy.  Please go to the link entitled subscription options and go from
there.  The link is located below the text that begins with any views or
opinions, etc., etc.  

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:51 AM
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Please inscriber me from this list!  It is too high in traffic!


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RE: eliminating slash

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Hi, Bud.  The way I deal with the slashes and other punctuation such as
dashes and parentheses and other various symbols is this.  You have the
right idea.  Go to the screen node, expand it, then go to punctuation and
tab to the math symbols and select either dictionary only or off.  I select
off.  I don't use Firefox enough to determine whether or not the same thing
happens.  

Mike M 

P.S.  This issue only occurs if you uninstall and reinstall Window-eyes.  If
you merely upgrade, you use the quick start wizard and make certain that you
leave your changes alone, smile.  . 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Bud Schwab via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:51 PM
To: windoweyes
Subject: eliminating slash

Hi Gang,

When wineyes reads on line or any other place as far as that goes, it 
reads all the slashes.  I looked under screen and also under 
verbosity but couldn't find anywhere to eliminate it reading 
slashes.  Did I miss something or can't that be changed.  Am running 
windoweyes ver 9 and windows 7 64 bit.
Thanks.


Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
Malibu, California
  

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RE: test

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Yes, Hui.  Your message got through to the list.  All of those who sent test
messages to the list went through.  Now to get at the business at hand so I
can learn from the information sent to list members concerning changes to
the various email lists.  

Mike M. 

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Subject: test

hi please advise if my message gets to the list. thanks
Best Regards
Hui Thian
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