Cannot contact RITLABS
Hello TBUDL, I've been a The Bat user since v.2 and now I need some help. I'm paid up through 3.99.29 but unless I find a way to contact RITLABS I'm out of luck - there seems to be no way to contact them. I've had a disastrous computer crash and was forced to re-format my hard disk. Now I'm using TB! on their trial basis because, although I have v.3, their v3 Key Block won't work anymore. Can anyone tell me how I can contact RITLABS to get a usable (working) Key Block? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cannot contact RITLABS
Hello Rick, Friday, August 8, 2008, 12:41:13 PM, you wrote: Can anyone tell me how I can contact RITLABS to get a usable (working) Key Block? http://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/ I've tried using those odd forms and have found them unusable. I haven't a clue as to how they can be used. Can anyone find a simple e-mail contact with the company? Many years ago, there were ways to ask e-mailed questions and get e-mailed answers. My question is still how get a copy of my Key Block for 3.99.29. My version 3 Key Block doesn't work and I can still find no way to contact the RITLABS people. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cannot contact RITLABS
Hello Rick, Friday, August 8, 2008, 1:48:58 PM, you wrote: Hello Rick, Friday, August 8, 2008, 12:41:13 PM, you wrote: Can anyone tell me how I can contact RITLABS to get a usable (working) Key Block? http://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/ I've tried using those odd forms and have found them unusable. I haven't a clue as to how they can be used. Can anyone find a simple e-mail contact with the company? Many years ago, there were ways to ask e-mailed questions and get e-mailed answers. My question is still how get a copy of my Key Block for 3.99.29. My version 3 Key Block doesn't work and I can still find no way to contact the RITLABS people. Read that page - there is a place to register and once you have done that you can create a support ticket and an individual will work on your problem. I Bcced Maxim when I made my first post but you must still make an attempt to work within their system. Go try it - it isn't difficult :) Thanks, Rick. I had tried these pages several times before I wrote these messages but without any success. But this time, following your directions (and a smidgeon of witches brew), it worked. Somehow! Now I'm waiting for a useful reply (I noticed that my inquiry did not fit in any of the standard categories). -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Block sender?
Hello Thomas, Monday, October 8, 2007, 8:41:58 AM, you wrote: QS Does TB! offer a means to block individual senders temporarily QS and/or permanently? Yes. There are two ways: 1. Create an Incoming filter which will move his messages to Trash and mark them as read. 2. Create a Selective Download filter. Thanks, Thomas, I tried both methods you suggested. They each are useful in their own ways. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Block sender?
Hello TBUDL, Does TB! offer a means to block individual senders temporarily and/or permanently? From time to time I want to send a message to certain annoying e-mailers. I know about Mailwasher (and MailWasher Free which doesn't appear to offer the Bounce function built into the pay version) but I prefer something built into TB! or a (preferably open-source freeware solution. Thanks. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Puzzling access denial
Hello TBUDL, Every once in a while I see this puzzling behavior: I try to send a mail but get this (immediate) reply: Message has not been sent. Server reply - Recipient's E-mail address: Recipient address rejected. Access denied. Then I click on the OK box and try once more to send the same message. This time the message is sent without further delay. Any ideas about what might be happening? -- Best regards, Quin (using TB! v. 3.80.0.6} Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Puzzling Rejection
Hello TBUDL, Occasionally I try to send a message and an error appears which says, Server Reply - E-mail address of intended recipient Recipient address rejected. Access denied. I then click on the OK button offered along with the above Access Denied notice, then once again try to send the message. The message is then immediately sent. I've seen this behavior, on and off, not often but for a long time. Does anyone know what might be going on here? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Puzzling Rejection
Hello TBUDL list members, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 2:05:36 PM, you wrote: Occasionally I try to send a message and an error appears which says, Server Reply - E-mail address of intended recipient Recipient address rejected. Access denied. I then click on the OK button offered along with the above Access Denied notice, then once again try to send the message. The message is then immediately sent. I've seen this behavior, on and off, not often but for a long time. Does anyone know what might be going on here? Sorry. I sent this twice. I sent the second time because I thought the first message was somehow lost. It _did_ take over an hour to get posted ;( -- Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Thunderbird
Hello The, Friday, September 30, 2005, 12:59:59 AM, you wrote: Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:14:25 AM, you wrote: http://www.0spam.com What's in it for them? Or am I being cynical? I found this in one of the press lists: 0Spam.com intends to keep the service free and eventually charge a small fee of 10 € ($11 USD) per year only to users who want additional storage space or extra features for their account. For more information regarding 0Spam.com, please visit our website at http://www.0spam.com.; My guess is that they probably also have other revenue streams. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: About kludges and K9 filter
Hello Alexander, Sunday, June 26, 2005, 11:25:48 AM, you wrote: I've been using K9 spam filter successfully for some time. I've filtered on the X-Text-Classification: spam header added to the kludges by K9. But TB!'s Sorting Office no longer uses the term kludges and I can't find a way to filter on X-Text-Classification: spam. I'm hoping some of you K9 users will help me out. Add the header in Options | Preferences | Messages | Message Headers. Pick a display name (for example Classification) and the header name as it will appear in a message (X-Text-Classification). Leave the three checkboxes unchecked. You can then filter in the sorting office for Header 'X-Text-Classification' contains 'spam' Thanks, Alexander. It's working correctly now after following your instructions. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
About kludges and K9 filter
Hello TB! Users, I've been using K9 spam filter successfully for some time. I've filtered on the X-Text-Classification: spam header added to the kludges by K9. But TB!'s Sorting Office no longer uses the term kludges and I can't find a way to filter on X-Text-Classification: spam. I'm hoping some of you K9 users will help me out. -- Regards, Quin Using The Bat! version 3.5.26 on Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Freezing after downloading mail
Hello Chris, Sunday, January 23, 2005, 12:01:45 PM, you wrote: Hi all, My parents are running TB! on their machine, but since the install, it has been acting strange. After downloading mail, TB! won't response to mouse clicks at all. When trying to open a message, nothing happens. This is the same when trying to access the menu's. I then try to click on the 'X' to close the program, and even that doesn't work. The funny thing is, the animated icon works throughout. The only way we can open messages, is to close TB! using the right click option on the animated icon is the system tray and selecting 'Exit'. On re-opening TB!, we can then read the messages. I've never experienced this before and was wondering if anyone can help with this strange behaviour. Too frequently I've finished download mail and can then do nothing with the mouse. But the same thing happens at other times; I think composing and sending an e-mail is one. I'm not sure your problem is the same as I have. Next time TB! freezes, try ALT+F4 and then restore the focus to The Bat!. If it works, maybe we're experiencing the same thing. -- Best regards, Quin -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changing Subject header (again)
Hello Quin, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 11:06:38 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me step by step instructions. Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other one? Thanks to all who responded. With your help, I've got it working now. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing Subject header (again)
Hello TBUDL, I want to archive certain NYTimes articles but I'd really like to change the Subject line to make the articles easily accessible. I know I need to export messages using some format, change the Subject header somehow, and import back into TB! somehow. I've tried various possibilities but none of them work. I'm hoping someone will give me step by step instructions. Also, what's the address of the TB! archives, Gmail and the other one? Thanks. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v3 or v3.0.0.11
Hello tbudl, This mail belongs in the beta group as well but I'm not signed up for it. When I install v.3.0.0.11 over v.3.0, Help About displays 3.0.0.11 only until I close the program. When TB! is re-opened, only v.3.0 is displayed in Help About. Do others see this, too? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v3 or v3.0.0.11
Hello Jurgen, Sunday, September 12, 2004, 10:13:00 AM, you wrote: This mail belongs in the beta group as well but I'm not signed up for it. When I install v.3.0.0.11 over v.3.0, Help About displays 3.0.0.11 only until I close the program. When TB! is re-opened, only v.3.0 is displayed in Help About. Do others see this, too? JH nopes, not here. Could it be that you installed it someplace JH else, and when you start it again with a link you have (I presume) JH that you're calling the old version? No, a search and a viewing of the C: drive show only one thebat.exe. Strangely, though, even while showing v.3.0.0.11 in About, the executable's properties show v.3.0.0.3. Again, when I close and reopen TB!, I see v.3.0 in About and the executable's properties say v.3.0.0.3. The downloaded update file, which should be v.3.0.0.11 *does* identify itself as that version. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! freezes
Hello tbudl, The Bat! v.3 freezes one to several times each working session, depending, I guess, on the length of the session. It can be unfrozen by pressing ALT + F4. I believe this problem was report in v.2.12. Comments? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
From Access Violation to program crash
Hello tbudl, This has happened several times now, using what reports to be v.3.0: When working in Sorting Office, I use ALT + Left Click to drag a (usually newly created?) folder in the left pane to a new position. The sorting office entries then speed by uncontrollably until an access violation at address 00402601 notice pops up. I try to recover from this but I can't recall what action I must take. Whatever it is, I get a message saying Invalid pointer operation. I press OK and get another AV at a different address than the one mentioned above. More OK's and the two access violations cycle in a loop. Finally, I must forcibly shut down The Bat! using CTL + ALT + DEL. (Before shutting down the program, I notice that all the left pane entries in the Sorting Office have disappeared. These are restored once TB! is closed and reloaded.) This has been reproducible until I began this message; now I can't reproduce it. But it will probably happen again so maybe I can fill in the blanks. Notice I said in my first line that my copy of The Bat! *reports* to be 3.0. This is because I've repeatedly copied 3.0.0.11 over my version 3.0. At first, TB! reports v.3.0.0.11 in About but it reverts to 3.0 when I close and restart The Bat!. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ritlabs Announces The Bat! 3.0 E-Mail Software
Hello tbudl, A decent description of v.3's features: http://www.desktoppipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=46200532 -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
freezing bug carryover
Hello tbudl, First thing after receiving my new v.3 registration, TB! froze. I had seen that many times with 2.12, but it's disheartening to see that it's been carried over to v.3. (Yes, I realize that v.3 is really just another v.2 beta, arbitrarily chosen to be knighted v.3. And while I'm on the subject, can't we arguably say that v.2 was a renamed v.1 beta?). Back to the freezing thing: it's sad that, for a long time, I blamed the operating system for the freezing. Then someone mentioned in the newsgroup that the bug could be overcome by pressing ALT+F4. Somehow this thawed TB! so the program did not have to crash. I think TB! should alert users that this bug exists to spare them some exasperation. (Hopefully, it will not have to become part of the permanent Help files, if and when they are updated.) -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expanding all threads in a folder
Hello Thomas, Friday, July 30, 2004, 7:52:14 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Dan, TF On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:33:07 -0400 GMT (30/07/2004, 20:33 +0700 GMT), TF Dan Grunberg wrote: DG I can't seem to use |Shift| + |Ctrl| + |*| to expand all threads in a DG list of messages. TB's Help says it should work, but it doesn't. TF I use crtl-* (no shift) and it works. You have to use the asterisk on TF the numpad, not the one above the 8. For me, CTRL + * only works to a certain depth of replies in the message list. Once there, I will see another plus sign and will have to use CTRL + * again to expand the remainder of the thread. I'm fairly certain others have commented about this in the past, but I've never heard whether that's the way it's supposed to be or not. Do you know? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Math in The Bat! Macros
Hello Bill, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:37:11 PM, you wrote: BM On Tue 3-Aug-04 1:41pm -0400, Michael L. Wilson wrote: I am trying to complete the following calculation 100*(x/x+y) x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77 y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185 Using a calculator, I get 29.389 BM You appear to be abusing your calculator :-) BM The correct answer, assuming normal precedence, is 18,600. Either way I do it, I get 29.389. Maybe I've just forgotten the normal precedure. Refresh my memory, please; I'm aging fast now. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Math in The Bat! Macros
Hello Roelof, Monday, August 23, 2004, 3:51:52 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Quin, RO On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:13:41 -0600GMT (23-8-2004, 23:13 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: I am trying to complete the following calculation 100*(x/x+y) x = %STATSPAMLETTERS = 77 y = %STATNONSPAMLETTERS = 185 Using a calculator, I get 29.389 BM You appear to be abusing your calculator :-) BM The correct answer, assuming normal precedence, is 18,600. QS Either way I do it, I get 29.389. Maybe I've just forgotten the normal QS precedure. Refresh my memory, please; I'm aging fast now. RO You're misreading Bill, he's talking about correct precedence, not RO correct procedure. RO 100*(77/77+185)=100*(1+185)=18600 RO After all dividing takes precedence over adding RO Since you know that in spite of what Michael said, he really wanted to RO calculate a percentage, your calculation was: RO 100*77/(77+185)=7700/262=29.3893 (and some decimals) RO However Michael only gave a formula and no intention. ;-) O.K. Thanks for filling it in for me. When I stepped in late and missed the point. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?
Hello Thomas, Monday, July 26, 2004, 10:21:43 AM, you wrote: QS Where did you find that shortcut? I've looked and looked and have not QS seen. Come to think of it, I used to know how to get a list of TB!'s QS shortcuts; now I can't find that, either. TF Go to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html and click on TF + Is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts? TF Oops, it says FOR THE BAT V.1.38e... Thanks for finding even that old list. If I can find the time, perhaps I'll try manually to uncover newer shortcuts and modify the list. One problem is that I don't even know what and where some of The Bat's features and/or commands are, let alone what they're for. But right now, I'll be happy just finding working shortcuts for common operations. -- Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Is there a way to temporarily disable/turn-off the Connection Centre capability while The Bat! is open?
Hello Allie, Sunday, July 25, 2004, 8:47:18 AM, you wrote: AM Shift+Ctrl+R toggles the CC on and off. AM If you wish to hide it, hit the hide button. Then use Shift+Ctrl+R to AM summon it as needed. Where did you find that shortcut? I've looked and looked and have not seen. Come to think of it, I used to know how to get a list of TB!'s shortcuts; now I can't find that, either. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Search problem
Hello TBUDL, When I'm reading messages and using ALT + Down Arrow to scroll, releasing the arrow opens a Quick Search box containing a question mark. This takes me to the first question mark in the message list. What's gone wrong? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search problem
Hello Allie, QS When I'm reading messages and using ALT + Down Arrow to scroll, QS releasing the arrow opens a Quick Search box containing a question QS mark. This takes me to the first question mark in the message list. QS What's gone wrong? Bizarre. I'd try simply exiting and restarting TB!. That's already been done, several times. If that doesn't work, try killing other applications that are running at the same time and see if there's some peculiar software interaction. Nada. If there's still no joy, then a reboot may fix things. The sometimes magic reboot has lost its potency. If even after a reboot there's no joy, then I'm stumped since I can't reproduce the problem here. Good luck! Thanks, anyway. But I'm not through yet. A message about another chronic problem I've never been able to solve is forthcoming. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Search problem
Hello dAniel, Saturday, February 7, 2004, 10:26:05 AM, you wrote: Q When I'm reading messages and using ALT + Down Arrow to scroll, Q releasing the arrow opens a Quick Search box containing a question Q mark. This takes me to the first question mark in the message list. Cannot confirm, though I did not know the ALT+arrows hotkey before. I'm used to using space or my mouse's scroll wheel. Nice.. Q What's gone wrong? Where is your focus when doing this? Have you recently installed any general hotkey-programs that could cause this? Focus is on the message in the message pane. No new hotkey programs at all. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
More missing messages
Hello TBUDL, It happened once before that all messages in a particular folder suddenly turned invisible. They were reported in the tree as existing but nothing showed in the message list. I was able to rectify this situation by using Empty Folder to store the messages temporarily in the trash (they were readable there), then deleting and re-creating the problem folder. I could then move the messages back from the trash to the new folder, where they were now displayed correctly. Now it's happened again. This time it's the inbox under one account. There should be 21 messages displayed but they are invisible in the message list. Using Empty Folder, I moved them to the trash, where they are visible. But I can't delete and re-create the Inbox folder as I did with the ordinary folder in the previous instance. Any suggestions? And has anyone else had this problem? By the way, I'm using the Christmas Edition now but I don't think I was when I first experienced the problem. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More missing messages
Hello MAU, Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:03:39 AM, you wrote: Hello Quin, Any suggestions? And has anyone else had this problem? Is there any possibility that you may be using a View/Display filter? Like view only Parked, or something? Nope, Display All Messages selected. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB2 CE doesn't remember folders columns settings
Hello Ken, Thursday, January 8, 2004, 12:52:24 AM, you wrote: Hello Alexander, Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 8:56:31 PM, you wrote: AAG Hello Batmans! AAG After upgrading to TB2 CE I've encountered then TB got a new options, AAG concerning folder settings BUT now it wont remember folder settings AAG and every start loads something default for ALL folders. AAG Have i missed something? AAG Any advices would be very appreciable! This has been discussed extensively in the past. Check the archives - I posted a method a few weeks back... Good luck with the archives. They are a very poor substitute for proper documentation. It may be that TB! will never be fully documented in understandable English (and other languages). Program offerings that allow documentation to slide for years are more likely to (eventually) appeal mostly to their beta testers and small numbers of other curious souls who don't mind spending more time trying to understand the program than in using it. Just my opinion. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Active account change in new mail
Hello tbudl, I use several accounts. One is intended for personal mail only. Trouble is, when I want to send a personal mail, the focus is usually in the most frequently used account which is *not* the personal mail account. Thus I often wind up sending personal mail from the wrong active account. What macros can I use (and how can I use them) in my New (personal) Mail templates to assure that, even though I write a mail in the wrong account, the mail is sent using the right one? I'm using TB! Christmas, 2003 Edition -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Techbargains HTML newsletter doesn't display
Hello Allie, Monday, December 15, 2003, 9:07:55 AM, you wrote: Quin Selman wrote: QS Now TB! indicates a new message received from TechBargains, but QS displays nothing! HTML newsletter messages from other sources QS still display correctly in The Bat!. QS Any thoughts about what might be wrong? I've just written QS TechBargains about it but, since I've changed TB! versions QS recently, I suspect The Bat!. Hmmm. This sounds similar to the problem others have been having with HTML mail. You'd need to send Ritlabs one of the problem messages. You could MIME forward me one of them as well so that I can see if the message displays OK at my end. Sorry for the delay in responding. I've been away. I noticed I could move the invisible messages to Trash via Empty Folder. Once they were in Trash, they were readable. That proved to be also true of them in other folders. So I emptied and deleted the original TechBargains folder and made a new one, along with associated filters. Problem solved, at least for now. I have to wait until a new TechBargains newsletter is received to see if the problem is really fixed. A new message could be an another invisible one. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cannot open Edit Mail Message from AB
Hello TBUDL, Using the Christmas Edition, I can no longer double-click the Name entry in the Address Book to bring up an Edit Mail Message form. The double-click does nothing. In order to write this message, I had to make TBUDL a Favorite selection, then select TBUDL from the Send New Message drop-down on The Bat!'s main page. Does anyone else have this problem? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Techbargains HTML newsletter doesn't display
Hello TBUDL, Using the Christmas Edition I've subscribe to Techbargains HTML-formatted newsletter http://www.techbargains.com/newsletter.cfm for some time now. It has always displayed correctly in the manner of The Bat! until recently. Now TB! indicates a new message received from TechBargains, but displays nothing! HTML newsletter messages from other sources still display correctly in The Bat!. Any thoughts about what might be wrong? I've just written TechBargains about it but, since I've changed TB! versions recently, I suspect The Bat!. Does anyone confirm or has has anyone seen something similar? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Joan, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 11:07:55 AM, you wrote: JJ -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JJ Hash: SHA1 JJ Hello Jamie, JJ On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, at 17:16:16 [GMT +0100] JJ (which was 13/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 18:16 where I live) you wrote: JD Uninstall and reinstall it from fresh. JJ I did. I uninstalled, downloaded the full AVG anew, I deleted the grisoft JJ folder with the remaining files and reinstalled the new full JJ 6.0.518 version (free). snip JJ Now I suspect that the program is not *damaged*, but that it JJ is *modified*, and this is the normal behavior of the new version. JJ Any idea about that? If this is really the case, is it a trick JJ from Grisoft to push you into purchasing a paid version? Has their JJ sense of how to conduct business been *damaged* ?. It works fine here. I ran into problems on another computer when trying to update by the method you first mentioned. It's much cleaner and safer to use the AVG Control Center for updating. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
lost password
Hello TBUDL, My neighbor, who uses TB! because I long ago recommended it to him, had to format his hard drive recently. Now that he's installed TB 1.62r, he's discovered he's lost his password. He has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [real] Re: lost password
Hello Marck, Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:49:00 PM, you wrote: QS. . . he's discovered he's lost his password. He QS has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration page of the RITlabs web site. The key passwords are not stored anywhere. Thanks, Marck, for the quick answer. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where to find Virus protection plugins
Hello Chris, Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 11:29:29 PM, you wrote: On the other hand, I still would like to know how these TB plugins work, where to get them, etc. As much for technical curiosity as for trying to find out if I need to do more for my anti virus protection. See ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ Also, http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ (look for BAV, Virus, etc.) http://www.ritlabs.com/securebat/index.html (Secure Bat!) -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: e33
Attention! It seems you have got a virus on your machine! Please make sure you have the latest update of your virus scanner and check all your files right away! Take care, Scott Johnson Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SmartBat maintenance
Hello TBUDL, How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SmartBat maintenance
Hello Thomas, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 10:35:57 AM, you wrote: Hello Quin, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600 GMT (28/09/02, 22:42 +0700 GMT), Quin Selman wrote: QS How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? del key? Nope. It's never that simple, is it? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SmartBat maintenance
Hello Roelof, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 4:36:14 PM, you wrote: QS How do we delete a tab from SmartBat? Press CtrlF4 and the focused tab is closed. This doesn't work for the main-tab. The tab is closed and after exiting and starting SB the tab won't appear again, but the file that was allocated to the tab still exists. Where did you learn of CTRL + F4? It works as you said. I see in SmartBat.INI, [Pads] Count=0 Active=0 Pad#1=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Billybong.txt where Billybong.txt represents the contents of the tab I deleted with CTL + F4. If I delete the whole line, Pad#1=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Billybong.txt, the file that was allocated to that tab (I guess Pad#1 is what the tab should be called) is removed. But what about Count=0 and Active=0? I guess Count=n means the total number of tabs (where just the main tab=0) but what does Active=n mean? -- Quin -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
default account for mailto: URLs
Hello tbudl, Will someone walk me through the meaning of the checkbox called This account is the default for mailto:; URLs? To simplify things, I have only two accounts at the moment. I've tried checking the box for one or the other, both, and none, with no apparent difference. Thanks. -- Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Anti-Virus
Hello Lynna, Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 2:36:19 AM, you wrote: There is one for AVG ( www.grisoft.com that I downloaded at http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip I guess it's gone. I get The requested URL /stazeni/beta/avgbat2.zip was not found on this server. Best regards, -- Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with html email, etc.
Hello Alastair, Sunday, March 3, 2002, 2:01:16 PM, you wrote: Here is a nice article regarding problems with html mail and other things that might be of interest to people here http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2002/tc2002031_3760.htm I like the paragraph which complains about memory-hogging HTML code then says that demand for 'software that manages email like Microsoft Outlook' will grow :) (In my experience people who use Outlook and send HTML email, because it's the default and they haven't been informed of the difference between HTML and text email and why it matters, are much of the problem). I don't know if it's most typical of Americans (or just typical of humans in general) that first we create the problem, then we try to manage the problem. Rarely do we backtrack and try to undo the original problems we created. Instead, we institutionalize them and their associated management systems. We create industries out of them. Crazy, in my opinion, but it keeps us busy. We say we are making progress. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Some people like my advice so much that they frame it upon the wall instead of using it. - Gordon R. Dickson --- Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/40 on Windows 98 SE 4.10 Build A AMD 500MHz 312MB PC133 RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation
Hello Paddy, Saturday, February 16, 2002, 3:18:25 PM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. Says works best with IE, but I'm not going to do that. Also, can't find the help button at the top of the page. Anyone else have problem? Or is it just me? Thanks. The equal sign buttons don't work with Opera 6.01 or 6.02 beta on my system. Fortunately they don't point to anything that isn't otherwise available. Thanks, Marck, for doing the hard work of producing this. I guess, from some of your comments, that you are a diehard MSIE fan, content to write code to other MSIE users (who constitute the majority of web browser users). That's your prerogative. As for your FAQs site eventually supporting Opera (whose users represent a minority of users), I'm not sure. Opera's DOM will be the W3C DOM. Is the MSIE DOM used by your FAQs consistent with W3C standards or is it MS proprietary? In any case, as I understand it, Opera will not have a completed DOM for quite some time. Meanwhile, I just downloaded your PDF FAQs version. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Do not confuse motion and progress. A rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress. - Alfred A. Montapert --- Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/40 on Windows 98 SE 4.10 Build A AMD 500MHz 312MB PC133 RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: View Folder: Cosmetic bug
Hello Dierk, 18 Dec 2001, 1:36:00 AM, you wrote: ...expand all threads (Ctrl+*). As you can see something goes wrong. There is nothing more I can say to this because it is an elusive little bug, sometimes it happens, sometimes it don't. Any idea? No idea but I confirm that it happens--often! I've always assumed it was some annoying normal behavior that I didn't understand but had to tolerate. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Some people like my advice so much that they frame it upon the wall instead of using it. - Gordon R. Dickson --- Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/16a on Windows 98 SE 4.10 Build 67766446 A AMD 500MHz 312MB PC133 RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: copying AB addy
Hello jan, Tuesday, November 27, 2001, 12:07:20 PM, you wrote: Is there a way of copying an email address from the AB w/o going into properties to do it? None that I've found other than the equally roundabout double-click the AB name and copying the email address from the Edit Mail Message window. There definitely should be a simple copy email address function. I often need to access email addresses quickly and easily while working on the WWW. To make it even worse, my browser (Opera) doesn't even allow me to directly access TB! from its menu bars. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. -- Buddha --- Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 SE 4.10 Build A AMD 500MHz 312MB PC133 RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Oddball Folder View navigational arrows
Hello TBUDL, I suspect this has been previously discussed but, if so, I can't find it. Settings in 1.53d: 1) View threads by reference 2) Sort by creation time 3) Descending order When viewing messages via Folder View (double-click a message in Message List panel), the left or Previous blue arrow in the tool bar displays the next message in /later/ creation time. I would have expected the message /previous/ or earlier in creation time. The right or Next blue arrow behaves opposite to the left arrow. Shouldn't these be reversed or is there some esoteric way I should be thinking? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 984.10 Build A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Multiple names in AB First name field
Hello Raj, Saturday, September 22, 2001, 11:15:17 PM, you wrote: QS field of the mail message. Is there some setting that allows me to QS specify more than one word to be included? Right now I'm using QS Jack_and_Jill or Mary_Beth but this is less than desirable. If you use this is the desired template %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME you will get the full name of the person to whom you replying. If as you say you want to use the Full Name of a person for whom you have an address book entry then try %To=%to=%ABofromNAME %ABofromEmail Check out the Address Related macros for more options. I'm sorry. My original inquiry was misleading. Let's say I want to address my mail message to Jack and Jill Horner. In my address book I have the first name listed as Jack and Jill and the last name as Horner. In my new and/or reply template, I have Hello %FName,. TB! the writes (using the AB template) Hello Jack, not Hello Jack and Jill, as I want it to. So my question is how to get the complete AB first name string to follow my Hello greeting. The only way I've found that works is to enter the first name in the AB as Jack_and_Jill. After following your hint, I found Hello %ABTOFirstName to do the trick. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit, to do the unnecessary. - Richard Harkness --- Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/9 on Windows 98 SE 4.10 Build A AMD 500MHz 312MB PC133 RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Multiple names in AB First name field
Hello TBUDL, I vaguely remember this being discussed before but can't find it now. If the First name in TB!'s Address Book is given as Jack and Jill or Mary Beth only the first word is inserted in the To: field of the mail message. Is there some setting that allows me to specify more than one word to be included? Right now I'm using Jack_and_Jill or Mary_Beth but this is less than desirable. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/9 on Windows 984.10 Build A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Disappearing 'Cool hints'
Hello David, Sunday, June 24, 2001, 2:00:47 PM, you wrote: DvZ Yes I can confirm this although I haven't turned it on normally. When DvZ I turn it on in the preferences and I restart TB!, it doesn't show the DvZ 'cool hints'. I just turned them on and they are working without having to restart. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- When you live in the shadow of insanity, the appearance of another mind that thinks and acts as yours does is something close to a blessed event.- Robert Pirsig --- Using The Bat! 1.53bis under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Disappearing 'Cool hints'
Hello Thomas, Monday, June 25, 2001, 3:12:21 AM, you wrote: DvZ Yes I can confirm this although I haven't turned it on normally. When DvZ I turn it on in the preferences and I restart TB!, it doesn't show the DvZ 'cool hints'. I just turned them on and they are working without having to restart. TF Are they still working when you restart? Yes, they still work after closing TB! and restarting. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- No one heals himself by wounding others. - St. Ambrose --- Using The Bat! 1.53bis under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No uninstaller!?
Hello Robert, Sunday, June 17, 2001, 3:49:56 PM, you wrote: RK I have installed TB and have found that there is no uninstaller. I have RK read something about this here before but am not sure what to do. How can I RK uninstall TB when there is no uninstaller and no reference to it in the RK Add/Remove control panel? A third way that works with many programs that somehow don't appear in the Add/Remove list is to reinstall the program over the old and hope for the best. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'll not listen to reason . Reason always means that someone else has something to say. - Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell --- Using The Bat! 1.53bis under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
A focus problem
Hello TBBETA, I'm crossposting this because 1) I think it's always been true and 2) if it needs fixing, it will be fixed in a beta. I read messages sorted by reference in the message list pane. The messages are sorted by creation time in descending order (most recently created at the bottom of the list). If the topmost message is unthreaded, I can read it, delete, and the focus goes to the next message, as expected. But if the topmost message is part of a thread, I read the thread, then CTL+SHIFT+DEL the thread, and the focus is lost (although there is an outlined box surrounding the topmost message). In fact, the contents of the topmost message does not even appear in the preview pane. I have to press the up arrow key to restore the focus to the topmost message and read its contents. If this isn't a bug, it seems a design oversight. Comments? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat!1.53bis with Microsoft Windows 98 4.10. A on AMD 500MHz, 184MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A MAPI problem related to MSExchange
Hello TBUDL, I have a feeling that this is a dumb question but I *do* need help with it. I know nothing about Microsoft Exchange. I've never used it or Outlook or Outlook Express. All I know about it is that it keeps demanding to be used whenever I try to send mail from applications. I want to use MAPI. It works on my Win95 machine but on this Win98 all I get is the popup asking to profile Exchange. How do I disable the Exchange thing so I can use TB's MAPI? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat!1.52 Beta/11 with Windows95a 4.00.950a on P133, 88MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Unknown attachments
Hello Dierk, Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 1:19:27 AM, you wrote: AA flatfinal jpg2/23 (AA_flat_final_i p2_231) Base 64 110,349 bytes DH Looks a bit like part 2 of 23 of a big split attachment. I don't think DH it has to do with the Mac sender since Macintosh usually uses a DH two-part encoding, one for Mac and one for other OS. I think the 2/23 is a date. I don't have any experience with Mac but it could be that the file is encoded both for Mac and for PC, as you suggest. If I double-click the attachment icon, I get, "No application is associated with the specified file for this operation." That doesn't help me, though, because I have no idea what application to associate or what extension to use. Any ideas? Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Using The Bat! 1.49d under Windows 98 on a AMD500MHz with 184MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Unknown attachments
Hello TBBETA, I just received two attachments containing information I need. I have no idea what they are, though. Here's how one of them is described beneath the attachment icon: AA flatfinal jpg2/23 (AA_flat_final_i p2_231) Base 64 110,349 bytes The other one is similarly described. I'm guessing this comes from some Microsoft thing. The mailer is Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022. I tried renaming the attachment using a JPG extension. I got an image described by Irfanview as 112x75x24 BPP. It's unusable as is. Does anyone know what this stuff is and how I can open it properly? I posted this to TBUDL too, hoping someone will recognize the attachments. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat!1.49d with Windows98 on AMD500, 184MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Batbaby
Hello Fred, T Stefan's son was borne yesterday. Son and mother are healthy. So I guess the boy will never be able to say, "I wasn't born yesterday," eh? Congratualtions to Stefan and wife and baby, too. -- Quin Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Every man alone is sincere; at the entrance of a second person hypocrisy begins." - Ralph Waldo Emerson --- Using The Bat! 1.49d under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Address book / Groups
Hello Marck, Monday, February 19, 2001, 3:45:05 AM, you wrote: MDP This is because the group has the property "Hide items if not MDP explicitly selected". If you un-check that, the group members MDP reappear at the PAB root level. QS ... Is there some case one would want to do QS that? MDP Yes. The AB (and the favourites pop-up menus) have two levels - the MDP root level and the group sub-menu levels. MDP Addresses added to groups with the "hide items" option set do not MDP appear at the root level. MDP It's just to keep more obscure / less used addresses out of the way. I MDP find it quite useful, especially since many entries in my address book MDP are merely holders for S/MIME certificates and I wouldn't want that MDP list shown at root. QS ... Surely it could be rewritten to convey some intelligible QS meaning. Or am I missing something obvious? MDP Does that clarify anything? Yes, thanks. I see now where it might be useful. I also see that certain items are hidden when the box is checked. But what is "not specifically selected?" The items? How would I specifically select them and why? Whatever it is that is "specifically selected" must not be done in order to hide them? That's confusing to me. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "By the time a man realizes that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong." - Charles Wadsworth --- Using The Bat! 1.49d under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Address book / Groups
Hello Marck, Thursday, February 15, 2001, 5:17:17 PM, you wrote: MDP This is because the group has the property "Hide items if not MDP explicitly selected". If you un-check that, the group members reappear MDP at the PAB root level. Am I the only one who wonders what is the purpose of hiding "items if not explicitly Selected."? Is there some case one would want to do that? Quite some time ago, I asked the list the meaning of the statement, "Hide items if not explicitly selected." A few people were helpful in trying to explain it. I feared at the time I'd never remember the answer. The statement itself means absolutely nothing to me so there's no clue that my memory can use to decipher it. Surely it could be rewritten to convey some intelligible meaning. Or am I missing something obvious? Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas." - Former Australian cabinet minister Keppel Enderbery --- Using The Bat! 1.49d under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Which folder contains my search result?
Hello TBUDL, When I do a search accountwide for a string, I get results like "9 results in 5 folders." Is there some way to determine the folder holding the specific result I want? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat!1.49 Beta/2 with Windows98SE on AMD500, 64MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which folder contains my search result?
Hello Quin, Monday, January 08, 2001, 10:42:49 PM, you wrote: QS When I do a search accountwide for a string, I get results QS like "9 results in 5 folders." Is there some way to determine the QS folder holding the specific result I want? I probably should clarify the above a little. Which messages are in which folders? I've searched a whole account. Now TB tells me if found x number of messages in y number of folders. But I can't identify which folders. Is there a way? Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "When you live in the shadow of insanity, the appearance of another mind that thinks and acts as yours does is something close to a blessed event."- Robert Pirsig --- Using The Bat! 1.49 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM.zmZ+
Re[2]: Which folder contains my search result?
Hello Thomas, Monday, January 08, 2001, 11:02:11 PM, you wrote: Quin When I do a search accountwide for a string, I get results Quin like "9 results in 5 folders." Is there some way to determine the Quin folder holding the specific result I want? TF Right-click on the column headers in the resuslts window, and you'll TF get a pop-up showing you which columns are and can be shown. You can TF add the Folder column (which I have done, too, for the very same TF reason). Got it, Thomas. Thanks. I've seen and used that little pop-up many times but had never noticed Folders in it. Now I'm happy :-). Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Using The Bat! 1.49 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A Gift to everyone....
Hello Angel, Sunday, December 24, 2000, 2:15:19 PM, you wrote: A My son created this, and we thought we would share it with you A all...it is his "version" of the Christmas Bat. :) A That's cuter than the proverbial bug's ear. Tell him for me that it's a great Christmas bat! Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The chief product of an automated society is a widespread and deepening sense of boredom." - Cyril Parkinson --- Using The Bat! 1.48f under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Address book question
Hello Nick, Wednesday, November 22, 2000, 10:56:01 PM, you wrote: QS That meaning of that statement, "Hide items if not specifically QS selected," is inpenetrable for me... NA I have to agree with you... the statement is very misleading and difficult NA to comprehend. However, what they are saying is that if you check that box NA at the Group level, then those addresses in that Group will *not* appear at NA the Root Level. So, if you have all your addresses in, say 4 Groups, and you NA check the box in each Group, the Root level will be empty. NA As you uncheck each box, the addresses in that group will then show at the NA Root level. Thanks, Nick for the explanation; I understand it now. Trouble is I'm afraid every time I look at "Hide items if not specifically selected," I'll go blank again ;-) Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Perseverence is not a long race; it is many short races one after another." - Walter Elliott --- Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Address book question
Hello Marck, Saturday, November 11, 2000, 6:41:49 PM, you wrote: JS I have a problem with the address book. When I have some addresses in JS the "root" of my address book, but when I MOVE them to a sub-group JS they are still listed in the root. If I delete the root entry all JS entries disappear! MDP Each group has the option "Hide items if not specifically selected". MDP If this is not checked then all items within the group will remain at MDP the root level. That meaning of that statement, "Hide items if not specifically selected," is inpenetrable for me. What 'items' does it refer to and is it the _items_ that are not specifically selected or is it the checkbox that is specifically selected? And what does 'hide' mean here? What is hidden and why? I'm sorry, I've tried to understand what it means (I've checked the archives but no help) but I remain totally confused. Can you help? Thanks. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "I was too far out all my life, and not waving, but drowning." - Stevie Smith --- Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MAPI issue?
Hello Clif, Monday, October 23, 2000, 6:05:57 PM, you wrote: CO I just downloaded and installed TB 1.47 and have been trying to use CO Send Link by Emila from IE. I get a dialog box asking me to select CO and account and enter a password. After clicking OK, it tells me I CO have an incorrect password and The Bat cannot log me on. I have CO verified that all my entries are correct (multiple times, even double CO checked against account properties that work fine, etc.) I'm also getting a request for password whenever I try to use MAPI mail from any application. I have no pw-protected accounts. I will sometimes get an Edit Mail Message window from TB! if i click the password-request window repeatedly without entering a password. Most times, the password window will freeze up so I have to end task. I have actually sent a MAPI test message successfully this way providing the password window doesn't freeze. Another related thing: when the password window freezes, the subsequent behavior of the applications is problematic and unpredictable (at least to me). For example, the display of the application from which MAPI mail is being sent might go blank and freeze. Oh yes, I had to use the /InstallMAPI switch to get MAPI to work at all. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Using The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: MAPI issue?
Hello A., Monday, October 23, 2000, 7:38:07 PM, you wrote: ACM I've noted that I sometimes have a little problem with things not ACM running smoothly with some apps when dealing with the popup account ACM query. The way to bypass this is to make your main account the default ACM account for external application calls to create a message. To do this ACM go into your main accounts properties and enable the option "This ACM account is the default for 'Mailto:' URL's". This will get rid of that ACM account query since you have now explicitly assigned an account to ACM handle this external stuff. Your suggestion cured the problems I described in an earlier message in this thread. Thanks. I haven't yet tested all the MAPI-capable apps I have, but I know that NoteTab Pro, MS Excel 97 and MS PowerPoint 97 work OK. MS Word97 still doesn't work. It requires me to shut it down with CTL+ALT+DEL. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- Using The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: opera 4 and mailto
Hello Curtis, Thursday, July 27, 2000, 1:58:26 PM, you wrote: C On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:00:37 -0600, Quin Selman wrote: C F:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe mailto:%1 C I also have TB! as my system default mailer. It works with Opera C just fine. QS Any particular reason you do it that way instead of just choosing QS "Use system default"? C Good question. No there's none. I have been using that command C since my early days of Opera when using the system default wasn't an C option provided. Upgrading to version 4.0 inherited my prior settings. C Does simply using the system default work for you? Yes, I've always used the default with Opera and TB!. Unfortunately, O4 has that bug that prevents using the Preferences | Mail dialog properly so I've been using the opera.ini Handler=3 edit. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "If you want a place in the sun you've got to put up with a few blisters" - Abigail Van Buren --- Using The Bat! 1.45 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Delete Folder - save msgs to trash
Hello TBUDL, Deleting a folder (right-click folder, select delete) and choosing to move messages in folder to trash does not move them to trash. Does anyone confirm this--maybe it's already been reported? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves." - Abraham Lincoln --- Running The Bat!1.44 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Delete Folder - save msgs to trash
Hello Quin, Saturday, June 03, 2000, 2:13:54 PM, you wrote: QS QS Deleting a folder (right-click folder, select delete) and choosing to QS move messages in folder to trash does not move them to trash. QS Does anyone confirm this--maybe it's already been reported? Sorry, ignore my message above. I was thinking Trash = Recycling Bin. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The moment of victory is much too short to live for that and nothing else." - Martina Navratilova --- Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Why is thebat.exe from tb142f.zip so big?
Hello SyP, Friday, May 12, 2000, 11:57:31 AM, you wrote: S Hello The Bat! users, S Steve Lamb wrote on 5/12/2000, 7:39 PM My thebat.exe is now only takes up 1073 KB... SL On disk. It is still 3.1Mb in memory. The run-time compressors SL were cool in the day when the 240Mb HD was "large". In these days SL of 12Gb drives at Best Buy for $89 the difference between 1mb and SL 3mb is pittance. S OK, call me petty-minded if you like, but I don't like wasting MBs if S I can avoid it... It's a matter of personal tastes, you know. Using the compressed executable, my mouse cursor freezes momentarily a couple of times after clicking the desktop TB! startup icon. I'm guessing this is during decompression. After installing the uncompressed 1.42f, the freezing is gone. Ergo, I prefer the uncompressed file. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Any society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers." - Erik Pepke --- Using The Bat! 1.42f under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Lost link associations with 1.42c
Hello Nick, Monday, May 08, 2000, 6:18:02 PM, you wrote: What the $§% is 1.42c (pardon me ;) NA NA Anyway, if you go to their FTP Server, and download/install the latest NA offering, you'll see you Help/About will then say 1.42c instead of just NA 1.42 I did that earlier but saw a file named 1.42uc, I think. My access to it was denied. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts, and beer." - Abraham Lincoln --- Using The Bat! 1.42 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM.(¹ªÞ²æìr¸yÖ¬j·!÷£iº+
[BUG?]
Hello TBUDL, Is anyone else experiencing this? In testing the SHIFT+click to open a URL in new window, I noticed TB! selects a variable number of lines (sometimes including partial lines) above or below the link. This happens also if I SHIFT+click a mail address. For example, when I SHIFT+click my mailto: link below, the two lines containing "Best Regards" and my name and email address are selected. When I SHIFT+doubleclick the URI, the lines below are selected. This behavior is erratic: sometimes only a word or two of the URI is selected and other times, nothing is selected. In all cases TB! opens the correct page addressed by the URI. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "I seated ugliness on my knee, and almost immediately grew tired of it." - Salvidor Dali --- Running The Bat!1.42 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Backing up TB! messages
Hello TBUDL, I've been making backups of the Mail folder and the registry entry. Some have suggested backing up the whole TB! directory. Is there any advantage to the latter method? (I'm planning a complete format and reinstall.) Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves." - Abraham Lincoln --- Running The Bat!1.42 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: shft-dblClick on URL (was: Re: Some of 1.42 new features)
Hello Thomas, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 4:53:00 AM, you wrote: [*] "Alternative URL start" can be invoked with the Shift key depressed JA There should only be two windows open, one at www.ritlabs.com and the JA other at the pcwize site. TF Actually, it doesn't work here. I am using Netscape 4.7. Whether I TF press shift or not, the URL will always be opened in the last active TF instance/window, as before. Anybody experience the same? Same here. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan --- Using The Bat! 1.42 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: How to open attached files with .EML file extensions?
Hello Uwe, Wednesday, March 15, 2000, 12:34:41 AM, you wrote: I may as well join in the survey. Both MSG and EML attachments open for me in TB! internal viewer. Win95a Bat version 1.41 IE 5.00.2314.1003IC installed Cipher Strength: 40-bit Update Versions:q23142;q23140;3717;3725;q240308;q241361;q413362;q241[remainder cut off] IE5.0 set to use The Bat! for mail; Forte Agent for News; MSNetMeeting for Internet Call MSG (Outlook item) associated with outlook.exe (I've never used Outlook or set it up) EML (Outlook Express Mail Message) associated with MSIMN.exe Content type: message/rfc822 (I've never set up Outlook Express Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Duty is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." -Robert E. Lee --- Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: FTP
Hello tracer, Monday, March 13, 2000, 6:11:58 PM, you wrote: Now, however, the thing is working using ftp.ritlabs.com with my ordinary anonymous login, and email as password. Perhaps there was something amiss with a server. I'm not sure yet, but I may have been using a different SMTP server than I am right now. I'll investigate this further. t SMTP??? Scratch that :] Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Madness is rare in individuals; but in groups, political parties, nations, and eras it's the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche --- Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: FTP
Hello Andrey, Sunday, March 12, 2000, 1:01:55 PM, you wrote: AGSAA Hello! AGSAA Sunday, March 12, 2000, 21:40, Quin Selman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QS Using my web browser, I have no trouble getting to TB!'s FTP site to QS download the_bat.exe but I'm not able to log on using WS_FTP LE QS anonymously. Is there some special settings I must use? AGSAA Could you post an error messages you have received? I've tried every host entry supplied with WS_FTP, including "Automatic Detect," (which works with practically everything else), but I only get the error message, "Couldn't get 'ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com host entry." I'm using "anonymous" userid and [EMAIL PROTECTED] as password. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before." - Former U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower --- Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
FTP
Hello TBUDL, Using my web browser, I have no trouble getting to TB!'s FTP site to download the_bat.exe but I'm not able to log on using WS_FTP LE anonymously. Is there some special settings I must use? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas." - Former Australian cabinet minister Keppel Enderbery --- Running The Bat!1.41 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier
Hello Leif, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 1:27:19 AM, you wrote: LG Hello Quin, LG On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 at 23:18:21 [GMT -0700], you wrote: QS Editing in the Mail Message Editor is broken. The delete key QS doesn't work on selected strings and there are other associated QS strange behaviors. Am I the only one having this trouble? LG Just for grins, click options, then select Editor Preferences. Make LG sure the option overwrite blocks *is* selected, and Persistent blocks LG *is not* selected. You are right, Leif and I _am_ grinning, relieved that my "problem" was bigger in my imagination than in fact. I don't know how that setting got changed. Yesterday both Opera and The Bat! came out with final releases. I was already struggling with my newly installed Java 1.3 not opening _any_ applets in Opera (on my system) and a bug carried over from the previous Opera version to the new release. Then the "problem" with TB! 1.41! My frustration led me to jump to a wrong conclusion--that I need to re-install a previous TB! version. Thanks, everyone, who checked this out for me. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read." - Mark Twain --- Using The Bat! 1.41 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 on a Pentium 133 with 88MB RAM. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Need copy of 1.41b5 or earlier
Hello TBUDL, Does anyone have a copy of TB!1.41b5 or earlier you can email me? Or is there a download site that has it? Either my copy of 1.41 final is corrupt (but I've tried both the zipped executable from the web site and the EXE from the FTP site) or it doesn't work on my system. Editing in the Mail Message Editor is broken. The delete key doesn't work on selected strings and there are other associated strange behaviors. Am I the only one having this trouble? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being." - Carl Jung --- Running The Bat!1.41 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Hide items if not explicitly selected
Hello TBUDL, I've set up a group of mailing list subscribers per Leif's instructions at http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml. If I right click the group name [=the handle, in my case], there is a check box called "Hide items if not explicitly selected." I don't know what this is supposed to be used for, but I've found it does these things: 1) When my group list is entered into the BCC field so subscribers will not see the names and addresses, unchecking "Hide items..." then causes the BCC names and address to be displayed in the subscribers' TO field. 2) If the box is checked and a subscriber's mail bounces, his or her name and email address is hidden in the bounced message so there is no way to determine who bounced. If the box in unchecked, the bounded addressee becomes visible but all the subscribers names and addresses appear in the TO field of the bounced message. Has anyone tried this? Something is obviously wrong. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The chief product of an automated society is a widespread and deepening sense of boredom." - Cyril Parkinson --- Running The Bat!1.41 Beta/3 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
Hello Thomas, Friday, January 07, 2000, 11:07:55 PM, you wrote: QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a QS REMINDER rather than a WARNING. TF I side with Steve here: the reminder is teh empty subject line. BTW, TF make it your habit to fill in the subject first. TF Whether you call a pop-up window a "warning" or a "reminder" makes no TF difference: I don't want that window. If you always remember to fill in your subject line you'll never see it. On the other hand, if you forget, it will be there to ask you if you want to send the message without a stated subject. Since you apparently always remember, you'll have no window. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Language is a wonderful thing. It can be used to express thoughts, to conceal thoughts, but more often, to replace thinking." -Kelly Fordyce --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
Hello Steve, Saturday, January 08, 2000, 1:51:11 AM, you wrote: SL On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 01:02:53AM -0700, Quin Selman wrote: If you always remember to fill in your subject line you'll never see it. On the other hand, if you forget, it will be there to ask you if you want to send the message without a stated subject. Since you apparently always remember, you'll have no window. SL Unless you intentionally leave the subject blank, which I do from time to SL time. True. But that's the purpose of the pop-up: to verify if that's your intention. And like you say, it's only "from time to time." I think the only time I intentionally leave the subject blank is with mail list or newsletter subscriptions that ask only for information in the message body. I repeat that such a feature is only a user-friendly amenity, not a necessity, in my opinion. I personally like it but can live without it. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "I enjoyed my own nature to the fullest, and we all know that there lies happiness, although, to soothe one another mutually, we occasionally pretend to condemn such joys as selfishness." - Albert Camus --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: All About TheBat
Hello Alexander, Saturday, January 08, 2000, 12:39:37 PM, you wrote: AVK Hi there! AVK On 8 Jan 00, at 19:56, Andreas Rumpenhorst wrote AVK about "Re[2]: All About TheBat": JT Well, that is a very nice forum indeed. Very well made. Besides: it takes AGES for a page to load and makes it rather uncomfortable to read the messages. The other thing is: I can't access the pages with Netscapes Navigator, only IE works... :-( AVK Ah, then it's not for me. I haven't got IE here at all. I'm a Netscape fan:-) AVK Oh well, I just *hate* active content Besides, AFAIK many people here AVK prefer Opera... I'll bet what Netscape doesn't render Opera won't, too:-) I can't get anything with NN either; just a blank page. Works fine with Opera 3.61, very quick and responsive. IE5 is a little slower than Opera on my P133 Win95a system. I like the form app itself but I prefer the mailing list for ease of use. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being." - Carl Jung --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: (OT) http://www.dials.ru/dsav/english/2000/00_index.htm
Hello tracer, Saturday, January 08, 2000, 6:03:12 PM, you wrote: t There is now an English New Year present for those who couldnt get t Alex's Russian version to work... t http://www.dials.ru/dsav/english/2000/00_index.htm The links don't work. FTP directory not found. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "When you live in the shadow of insanity, the appearance of another mind that thinks and acts as yours does is something close to a blessed event."- Robert Pirsig --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM
Re[2]: All About TheBat
Hello Nick, RE: http://www.falkware.com/thebat/forum/ Sunday, January 09, 2000, 12:02:49 AM, you wrote: NA Erik, did you realise that your page is NOT viewable from any Browser, NA except Opera? Not quite right. As I reported before, both Opera 3.61 and IE 5 have no trouble with the site. On my system, Opera is faster than IE 5. Netscape Navigator 4.6 just shows a blank page. NA I'm on my trial issue of Opera 3.61, so I was NA able to view your page... but am finding Opera difficult to work with. NA Perhaps I have to give it more time. :o) I've been using Opera for nearly three years, I think. It's been my default browser most of that time. Version 3.61, supposed to be a bug fix, introduced more bugs than it fixed. It should be followed up by another bug fix, version 3.62, soon. When you get that, then give Opera a fair trial. You may like it. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- because they have to say something." - Plato --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
Hello Steve, Friday, January 07, 2000, 10:01:34 AM, in response to the wish, - A warning if you try to send messages without any subject (I frequently forget to add a subject, so have got used to this feature in other email programs. Since I got The Bat I have sent several emails without subjects :-( ). you wrote: SL Bad idea. This is an error between chair and keyboard, fix it there. I'm SL very much opposed to warnings on things which are not technically required. SL The only headers which are required are FROM, TO/BCC and DATE. Since SUBJECT SL is not required, don't issue a warning since the user may be intending to send SL a message without a subject. I agree with you but... Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a REMINDER rather than a WARNING. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "What fools these mortals be.(Tanta Stultitia Mortalium Est.)" - Seneca --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Wish list from a new user of The Bat
Hello Nick, Friday, January 07, 2000, 2:47:24 PM, you wrote: ND In Reference to "Wish list from a new user of The Bat" From Quin Selman: QS Since some of us don't always compose the SUBJECT prior to the message QS and so sometimes forget to go back and insert the SUBJECT, we could use a QS REMINDER rather than a WARNING. ND So you're one of the reason's that McDonald's had to put the warning ND "Caution - contents may be hot" on the coffee cups, eh? No, I've never had trouble remembering that hot coffee is hot. And no, I don't read the printing on the cup to be warned of its contents. On the other hand, I do read the line by line instructions on tax forms I've never used before. Have you ever read the reminders on the IRS envelope just prior to sending in your return? Have you ever forgotten to put a stamp on an envelope before you mailed it? ND Let's see... ND We could use a "reminder" to ask us if we want to add the sender's ND address to the address book upon each message arrival ND A reminder to to be sure I didn't accidently leave off somebody's ND address in the CC BCC fields if they're left blank. ND How about one to ask if we would like to print that email you just ND finished reading, just in case you forget and move on before doing ND that? If you need these things because of some mental disablility, you could suggest them. If you think they are necessary, I wouldn't care if they were included so long as I could disable them. ND You see, reminders for unnecessary actions can be added to the point ND of becoming minutia. A subject is not an "official" requirement, but it is of a different order than the "minutia" that you describe above. A overlooked subject can result in your message being likewise overlooked in newsgroup or mail-list posts. Not everyone's brain-minds are as attentive to detail as your's apparently is. Most of us see perfection as something to strive for but none of us achieve it. (If a user tries to post a message in Agent without a subject, the "reminder" asks if no subject is intended. If it was an oversight, you can add it. If not, just press "yes." Not a big deal, in my opinion.) ND How about just putting a sticky note on your ND monitor? What for? There's no necessary connection between a sticky note and a missing subject. ND Personally, I'd like to see all confirmation windows not ND dealing with deletions vanished off the face of the earth. I don't think it would affect me one way or the other. I'm not really emotionally involved with such things. I just think the missing SUBJECT reminder can be a useful (but not necessary) feature. I can live with it or without it. ND But that's just me. Ditto. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." - Groucho Marx --- Running The Bat!1.38e on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Dragging Messages to Folders
Hello Ali, Thursday, December 02, 1999, 4:08:29 PM, you wrote: Is there no way I can drag-copy a multiple selection of messages from the message list to folders in the folder list? It appears that TB! only permits one message at a time to be dragged. The selection highlighting disappears on the remainder of the multiple selection. AM I drag and drop multiple messages, with the left mouse button, just fine AM over here. Another (minor) thing. TB! gives no indication that messages copy-dragged in the above fashion are in fact being copied. There should be a popup confirmation that closes itself automatically, in my opinion. AM When I'm doing the drag and drop operation a tootip appears indicating AM how many messages are in the folder and how many were selected for AM dragging. The folders which are involved in the drag and drop AM operation get their message counts updated real-time, so that should AM be enough evidence that the copy operation has occurred. 1) I looked a little deeper. Moving messages with left-click is no problem. I want to copy the messages to another folder. I was presssing CTL and left-click dragging. The little "+" sign appears indicating "copying" but only a single file of the multiple selection is moved. 2) I see now that if I press SHIFT + CTL while left-click dragging, the multiple selection is copied. Is method 1) above specifically for single file drag-copying while 2) is for multiple? I'm used to a single method for both. Thanks, Ali, for pointing out the tool tip information; it escaped my attention. It is adequate to show what's going on. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently." - Friedrich Nietzsche --- Running The Bat!1.38 Beta/5 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Dragging Messages to Folders
Hello TBUDLers, Is there no way I can drag-copy a multiple selection of messages from the message list to folders in the folder list? It appears that TB! only permits one message at a time to be dragged. The selection highlighting disappears on the remainder of the multiple selection. Another (minor) thing. TB! gives no indication that messages copy-dragged in the above fashion are in fact being copied. There should be a popup confirmation that closes itself automatically, in my opinion. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The sweetest of all sounds is praise." - Xenophon --- Running The Bat!1.38 Beta/5 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
nws attachments
Hello TBUDLers, I am receiving _many_ messages that when received show only an icon marked "something.nws" or, in some cases, "something.msg." The latter turn into "something.nws" when displayed in the View window. Apparently these are AOL inline attachments; at least TB says they are inline attachments. Is there no way The Bat! can read these? Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "I wear my wife's eyeglasses because she wants me to see things her way. - Jayson Feinberg --- Running The Bat!1.38 Beta/4 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: nws attachments
Hello Alexander, Saturday, November 27, 1999, 1:14:12 PM, you wrote: AVK Hi there! AVK On 27 Nov 99, at 11:13, Quin Selman wrote AVK about "nws attachments": I am receiving _many_ messages that when received show only an icon marked "something.nws" or, in some cases, "something.msg." The latter turn into "something.nws" when displayed in the View window. Apparently these are AOL inline attachments; at least TB says they are inline attachments. Is there no way The Bat! can read these? AVK MIME-attach an example of such message, and let's see:-)) Here's an example. I used a utility called Peek to see the ASCII; the message looks like spam. I checked another NWS message that I received: when I double-clicked it I got HTM Part II icon which *can* be opened with external viewer. But the one I'm sending can't be opened using the TB!. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "The best way to get most husbands to do something is to suggest that perhaps they're too old to do it." - Ann Bancroft --- Running The Bat!1.38 Beta/4 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 5.msg
MS-TNEF
Hello TBUDLers, What is that MS-TNEF Base 64 extension that appears in The Bat!'s attachment window on some Microsoft mail messages? What does it open in? I see Content-Type: multipart/mixed. I've never understood what that means exactly. Best regards, Quin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Slang is language which takes off its coat, spits on its hands -- and goes to work." - Carl Sandburg --- Running The Bat!1.36 Beta/4 on Windows95 4.00.950a, P133,88MB EDO RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Inserting Cookies
Hello Ali, Monday, September 20, 1999, 5:07:20 AM, you wrote: AM When using cookies from a remote file, I would at times get the AM path to the cookie file inserted in some messages as a cookie. AM Anyone else experienced that? I haven't ran into that one yet. I guess Alexander L. has confirmed it, though. Best regards, Quinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
