Re: Another Radio app.
So, how does the interface compare to TuneIn if you can comment? Also does it offer the sleep timer functionality? Also how about presets/favorites or whatever you want to call them. :) THanks On Aug 25, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Hi Folks: If you're looking for a simplified radio app that just works, try iHome Radio. It uses the TuneIn radio service. Verry accessible. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: OT? Seniors, Smart Phones, and the NLS App
What I find interesting is how this thread has run off the rails. I do not recall anyone saying the NLS players should be replaced entirely by an app. I think the players serve a certain group of people just as the app would another. NLS would benefit in providing both if they could reclaim a number of the players in the field that could be replaced with an app. NLS could develop the app and backend processes for a reasonable cost and budgets are only going to get tighter for agencies. On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, In working with senior adults with visual impairments as an occupational therapist, I have yet to have a senior own a Smart phone. Because of other comorbidities (other medical issues), their choice of a cell phone is simplistic in nature like the Jitterbug by Cricket. They may have cognitive and memory problems, along with physical limitation in their hands to be able to handle the ability to tap all over the screen and access an NLS app and its contents. For the most part, seniors will have computers and these devices are usually used for emails, the Internet, games, and word processing. Again, when the device becomes too complex in its use, they will not attempt to elect that device as their choice. The digital players from NLS are simple and easy for a senior to grasp and memorize the steps involve to operate it. The above have been my experience in providing services to the older adult, with a visual impairment and usually other medical conditions. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
I have to agree the shared data plans have to be the greatest scan in the cell phone industry. I was blown away by the cost for just two iPhones and a 4Gb plan. I think the cell providers have made this so complicated for that reason. On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com wrote: In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works. I don't use it as I have zero need to do it. I'll never sign up for the new rippoff so-called shared data plans. At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote: Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on one of the old plans it is still an add on feature. Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CD Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot. I don't know. Verizon does it with their shared plan. It's a new thing. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot. Does att? On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM To: The iPhone List Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot. Hi all. How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect my Mack to? I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jenifer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
Raul, I really wonder if ATT just wants to drive customers away because they sure as hell seem intent on doing just that. I had a long conversation with ATT customer service and it was apparent they could not even accurately explain the plans. I had to talk to two different reps to get the story. THe part that really has me rankled is that when iOS 6 is released, I have read and ATT confirmed that if you wanted to use Face TIme on the 3G network you would have to be covered by one of the shared data plans. Now regardless of how often I would use Face Time, I cannot imagine that ATT can block this service. I understand it is their network, but I did not sign a contract that limited me to specific protocols etc. either. I am not sure what ATT's plans are, but they really do seem to have lost interest in customer service. So, I for one will not be upgrading and in fact I cannot wait until next October when my ATT contract ends because my hope is the field of opportunity will be broader. I am pretty disappointed in how ATT has handled the whole shared data plan issue. THey really could have capitalized on the opportunity and really made it a sweet deal for customers-create a win win situation, but guess that was not their goal. On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, there was a recent judgement passed against Verizon that they had to provide tethering for free. Whether the other big name cell guys will follow suit is anyone's guess. So, right now ATT still charges for tethering services. Many people with jailbroken cell phones use an app called PDA Net and then they can tether on their existing data. On another note, I agree that the new data shared plan that ATT is so-called offering is a joke. It will end up costing us more than what we pay now for our 3 phones if we switch to it. Unlimited minutes? Big deal. I get that already thanks to Google Voice. So, it's not an attractive deal for me. Now, if they only charged like $9.99 per extra phone then it would be worth considering, but not right now. -- Raul A. Gallegos I'm such a klutz! I just tripped over my cordless phone. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 8/26/2012 6:45 PM, Jenifer wrote: Does att? On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM To: The iPhone List Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot. Hi all. How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect my Mack to? I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jenifer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
Because it takes enough people to complain and figuring out the process is very time consuming. I'm hoping that I can find some time to figure out how the FCC dealt with Verizon and maybe that would give me what I need to launch a campaign against ATT. I agree that data is data and charging for tethering or using Face Time is asinine. I don't mind paying for a service and especially if the provider is really pumping money into upgrades and improvement of service. I do not believe all these complicated plans are designed to further the improvement of service. :) On Aug 30, 2012, at 3:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello Everybody, I have always been amazed about how ATT and other big carriers can charge for this, after all, if you have 2 Gig of data with your package and you are paying for it, shouldn't you be able to use that data as you see fit? Here in Canada no carrier is allowed to charge extra for tethering, it's illegal. I also don't think there are extra charges for that in Australia, NZ or Europe. Why doesn't every person in the States who has a Smartphone flood their Congress Man''s or Congress Woman's office with letters asking that the government put a stop to that, if a ruling has been passed to force Verizon to do it, why doesn't this apply to other major carriers, sounds hardly fair to me. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: ATT data shared plans - Was Re: iPhone as personal hotspot.
Raul, Where things get incredibly silly is as you increase your data from perhaps 4Gb to 6Gb the base cost goes down but the per phone charge goes up. So, the only way these data plans make sense is for people with lots of devices. ATT really did not take into account the families with two or three phones. The $70 for unlimited text and voice is not to bad I suppose, although the cost for text is so out of line with reality, but hey it is a cash-cow for carriers. :) On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, basically here's how they work. You get unlimited voice calls and texts. You pay for a base plan, which doesn't include any phones, but then you pay for each phone you add. As an example, if you go with a 4gb plan with 3 phones, you would pay $70 for the plan itself and $40 per phone. So, do the math. 70 + 120 is 190 plus tax. Now if you take one of their older plans like the 700 minute shared minute plan with unlimited text and mobile to any mobile and 3 phones, the cost is 60 for the plan, plus 30 for the texting, plus roughly 10 per each phone, plus the data on those phones. So, 60 plus 30 plus 30 for 3 phones makes 120. Now add data. Let's say 30 per phone for 3gb each. that's an extra 90 making it 210. So maybe going with the 4gb plan for those same 3 phones will save you 20. However if you have an older plan like the one paying 15 or 20 per month on data plans, then switching to the new data shared plan costs more. Hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 8/26/2012 8:52 PM, Vicky Collins wrote: I just went to the ATT site, and looks like they now have the personal hotspot feature free with their new shared data plans as well. I have it under one of their older plans, and so am paying extra for it. Although, grin, perhaps I'm not really paying any more in the long run, but I just couldn't figure that out for sure. I tried to wade through the ATT site to understand their shared data information, but finally just got kind of frustrated and quit looking for right now. - Original Message - From: Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:42:51 -0400 Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot. In theory yes; however I have the old plan and tethering works. I don't use it as I have zero need to do it. I'll never sign up for the new rippoff so-called shared data plans. At 08:05 PM 8/26/2012, you wrote: Right if you have vzw's new plan it is included however if you are on one of the old plans it is still an add on feature. Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CD Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone as personal hotspot. I don't know. Verizon does it with their shared plan. It's a new thing. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone as personal hotspot. Does att? On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: Verizon has tethering free but I haven't figured out how to do it either. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenifer Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:28 PM To: The iPhone List Subject: iPhone as personal hotspot. Hi all. How would I set my iPhone 4S as a personal wy-fy hotspot that I can connect my Mack to? I have wy-fy at home but not anywhere else. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jenifer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To
Re: AudioBooks.com
So, just to be clear, you would stream the book and not be able to cache it locally until it is completed and then it would be removed. Seems it would make more sense to allow local caching and have it removed after the book is finished. Yes I know some would say you could then take the book off the device, but I believe there would be a way to prevent that. I do agree that is a little high and maybe they will come up with a few other options. On Aug 30, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, the app looks to be very VO friendly. I looked at the site and it appears that the cost is $24.95 for unlimited streaming of books. This seems kind of high to me. So I asked them if they have a lesser plan, like a limit of 2 or 3 books per month for a lower price. In an way this reminds me of Netflix which allows you to stream unlimited movies and tv shows for $7.99 per month. Of course there are probably more Netflix customers than AudioBook customers, but still, not a bad idea. -- Raul A. Gallegos It's hard to believe I work 40 hours a week to be this poor. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 8/30/2012 5:23 PM, Joe wrote: Sorry if this has already been shared, but the new AudioBooks.com app lets you listen to unlimited books on iOS for a flat monthly fee. Thought some here would appreciate the news. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Bluetooth headsets/earphones and consumption
All, I was thinking about earphones and how various devices affect battery consumption. Obviously plugging a set of earphones into the iOS device will consume less resources than if you are using a bluetooth earphone. However, what I was curious about is how much does just using the earphone consume? For example, using my Braille display consumes somewhere around six to eight percent per hour, roughly. So, I was curious if anyone has looked at what the approximate consumption is for a bluetooth earphone? THanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: LookTel Recognizer Version 1.2 Released
You know I just cannot let this go without saying how wrong you are Kristeen. There was never any implication made that you as a totally blind person could or could not use the app, but instead it clearly was stated in short that sighted help would yield the best results for ensuring clarity of the image. If you understand how the app works then how can you call this a flaw? A flaw would imply that the intended functionality failed to work as specified because of a bug in the code etc. I really think you are essentially saying the app is a failure just because it was not designed explicitly for a totally blind person to use without any sighted help at all. I do not recall anywhere it being stated that the app could be used only with sighted assistance or could be used by a totally blind person. If you can line the camera up sufficiently to get a good image then this would be a non-issue and if not then maybe sighted help would be in order. Besides, 98% of the time means you have the opportunity to get some help if necessary. Oh and obviously all this is going to be dependent on how you use the app. So a flaw? No, not a flaw or deficit. On Aug 31, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: Since I have no sighted assistance about 98 percent of the time, I think I would tend to consider it a flaw at best and a deficit is probably more accurate. Kristeen Hughes On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I agree, David, just because a blind person is simply not capable of taking an image that is lined up and focused as well as a sighted person this does not make the app less useful or constitude a “deficit”. For LookTel Recognizer to be at its best the image has to be of the most unique part of a package and if possible contain no background. I had relatively good results by taking pictures myself by placing the item on a large white piece of paper, but I also don’t find it a big deal to make a list of items I want to put into Recognizer and then ask a sighted friend to take the pictures for me. One can always make this into a bit of a social get-together and I have long since learned that trying to be independent where it’s not really necessarily at best is time consuming and a pain in the neck and at worst it reduces one’s social skills and interaction with others. LookTel Recognizer is an awesome tool and for those often used every-day items it’s a one-time setup process which means that as my database grows I will need sighted help less often. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visithttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: AudioBooks.com
What? Man if I could speed up all the people that talk to me and especially my wife, I'd be so happy. People talk to WHat? Ah man if I could get an app to speed up everyone I talk to life would really be sweet. I like a good reader as well, but I just want to keep the flow ripping along. On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Wayne and Chuck, I am always amazed when people speed up audio book playback especially when the readers are as good as most of the Audible readers are. For me a large part of the enjoyment is the reading itself, of course also the story, but speeding up a well-read audio book to me would be the same as speeding up playback on a movie so that instead of the movie being 90 minutes I could listen to it in 30 or 40 minutes. The same goes for books in electronic text, I listen to Jaws and Voiceover all day and it's fine for work, but there is just no way in a thousand years that I listen to a good novel using a synthesized voice and there isn't a voice out there that is even a tenth as good as what a good reader can do. But to each his or her own I guess! Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Wifi issues continue
Marie, I apologize if you have covered some of these questions, but I do not recall, so here are a couple of questions. First do you have any bluetooth devices paired to your iPHone? If so what are those devices and if you can provide model numbers of devices such as Braille displays. I only have APple routers here in the house, but I think I might still shave an old Linksys WRT54G which probably has some pretty outdated firmware. I may be able to drag it out and setup a wireless network here to do some testing. If you like to contact me off list you can send a message to scottn3...@gmail.com. In fact I would prefer you contact me directly with the information regarding your devices and especially if you have a Braille display. I hope I can offer some help here. THanks, Scott On Sep 1, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Mari solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote: I reported some time ago regarding the issues regarding my prior and current Iphone is not staying connected to my Lynksis router WRT54G2, I reset the firmware on the router reset all network settings on iphone including network settings I needed to find out if anyone has any other thoughts as I've tried changing the channel no luck so am I to assume its the router then? I was hoping to hear back from the moderator if he had any ideas but I realy just need help please. My other devices computers connect and stay connected to the lynksis router just fine. Any other ideas anyone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A Skype Query on the I Phone.
Yes it could be possible if the developers implement it. Apple does not block this capability from developers. On Sep 5, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote: I never use that advanced method for my typing needs. So, can'tbe very sure. I doubt though that it will be possible with skype. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: Re: A Skype Query on the I Phone. I have the latest version but would like to see that the dial pad is made like the I phone, as you touch each number and lift your fingers off rather than double tapping the Dial pad. Can this be done? Kawal. On 5 Sep 2012, at 02:48 PM, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote: Make sure you have the latest version. I could find the numbers on the dial pad without any intervention from any kind of picture. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 6:28 AM Subject: Fwd: A Skype Query on the I Phone. I'm writing to you all to get opinions, reason for joining the list again. Begin forwarded message: From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Date: 4 September 2012 10:17:10 PM GMT+01:00 To: macvisionaries macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: A Skype Query on the I Phone. Hello All. Now that the Skype application is more accessible on the I phone and as I got rid of my Skype Adaptor which I was using on my chordless phone at home but using it no more, I am wishing to use Skype on my I phone to burn my unused credit. However, if I call my bank, I am unable to key in numbers such for my account number and other info required so that I can use the automated service as when I bring up the dial pad, the numbers are displayed across rather than a traditional dial pad where you get one two three and then you move down a row and you get four five six you get the picture. Can some one tell me if they have ever been able to key in numbers when you are using skype whilst on another call using it? If not, who to contact to make this feature accessible namely the person who is in charge of making this application more accessible please? I know this question may be better on the I phone list, but I do not belong to that. Thanks in advance. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: general question about the weather radio app and push notifications
There are apps such as Weather Alert USA that provides many of the same benefits and is not at all taxing on the battery. The part of Imap Weather Radio that drains the battery is that it uses the GPS to determine your location and it seems to do this on a regular basis. Apps such as Weather Alert USA do not use the GPS as far ask I know or do not constantly check. Either way this is why I stopped using iMap Weather Radio. WIth all of that said, it does what it does well and that is always an important consideration when choosing this type of app. On Sep 6, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Kevin W. rvacounse...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, The only one I have used is the Imap weather radio app. This one has push notifications, allows for severe weather notifications for your current location and for up to five others that you setup, and costs $9.99. The only downside to this app is that it can sometimes be taxing on the battery. Your mileage may vary. Here is the link to the app in the appstore. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/imapweather-radio/id413511993?mt=8 Hope this helps: Kevin *** Kevin W. Blog: www.rvamaverick.com Twitter: @RVAMaverick There has never been anything false about hope. (Barack Obama) From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 1:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: general question about the weather radio app and push notifications Several people on this list have mentioned a weather radio app that allows alerts to be set up. I saw 2 weather radio apps in the app store. One was the NOAA weather radio app that costs $4.95. Is this the one you’re referring to? On a different topic, what are push notifications? Does one have to do something with the phone to hear them? Thanks. God bless! Paula and Babe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Wifi issues continue
The reason why I believe there is a relationship is because I have encountered numerous issues with the iPhone not connecting to my network and none of these problems started until I paired my Refreshabraille to the iPHone. I've done a pretty fair bit of testing and removing the pairing for the display has resolved the issue. In fact I was sitting here reading a couple of publications and found the WIFI connection dropped on a couple of occasions. So, this would take a lot of discussion on the list which may not be of interest to others. So, if you want to discuss it further drop me a note off list and I would be glad to explain more. On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott. Just curious, what makes you think the issue is related to braille displays? I have connected a bunch of different devices to my phone at different times and am having this issue. But how could the bluetooth in the phone be related to the Wifi? Thanks for any insite, Scott On 9/8/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, There will probably be people that tell you otherwise, but I don't think theres enough information out there to pinpoint a specific hardware combination that this happens with. For example, I have a 3GS running 5.1.1 and experienced the issue with 2 different Netgear routers; other people have had the same issue on a 4S under 5.1.1 with dLink. If anything I'd blaim 5.1.1 so hopefully we'll see a fix in iOs 6. Cheers, Ben. On 9/8/12, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a related question. My router is a Linksys WRT 54G and works flawlessly with my 3 GS. IOS on my phone is updated to 5.1.1. Now for the question. Are these wifi issues related to a specific model of iPhone, or are they related to a particular version of IOS or a specific router? I ask because I plan to purchase either a 4S if the price is right or possibly an iPhone 5. Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/7/2012 7:45 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey wrote: I had similar problem with WIFI and Iphone. Sometimes it wouldn't see network. Sometimes it would connect OK after I reset everything but as soon as phone went to sleep, no WIFI when I woke it up. Turns out it's an Iphone problem. So if your Iphone is under warranty, have an Apple store check it out. They at first thought mine was OK after they ran it through their diagnostics and check systems. But I was a scheptic and waited around. Well, the WIFI died again in front of them so they gave me another phone. Verizon had not a clue and insisted it was my network/router, but being that my Ipad and Ipold were fine and another Iphone was fine, as well as my computers, I figured it wasn't my network. And it wasn't. All is well after getting replacement phone. I read an article somewhere about one of the chips going south lots of times in the 4S series, so the problem is out there. HTH. Mary Anne On 9/1/2012 2:35 AM, Ben J Bloomgren wrote: Mari, I'm wondering about that too, as my iPod Touch 4G does the same thing. It'll stream a whole day of a cricket test, which is upwards of seven hours; then, however, it won't allow me to add birthdays to My Calendar Mobile through Facebook. It's bloody annoying at times. I'm in a somewhat large house (2300 square feet), and I'm across the house from the router. It's the same type of router. I'm thinking of purchasing a signal booster from Walmart or BestBuy or somewhere. Hopefully that'll solve this. I'm getting a iPhone in February, Lord willing, and I pray that it won't have similar problems. Ben On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Mari solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com mailto:solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote: *I reported some time ago regarding the issues regarding my prior and current Iphone is not staying connected to my Lynksis router WRT54G2,* ** *I reset the firmware on the router* ** *reset all network settings on iphone including network settings* ** *I needed to find out if anyone has any other thoughts as I've tried changing the channel no luck so am I to assume its the router then? I was hoping to hear back from the moderator if he had any ideas but I realy just need help please. My other devices computers connect and stay connected to the lynksis router just fine.* ** *Any other ideas anyone?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone
Re: Wifi issues continue
Lois, That may be the case for you and I do not doubt that. However, your issue may have no relation to what I am experiencing. The hope of course is that the issues, regardless what those may be, are addressed in iOS 6. I'm working with Apple and will continue to do so if the issue persists. I know they want to find a resolution to the problem as much as I do. On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:15 AM, Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com wrote: I had no problems at all until directly following the last upgrade. I have a 4S and never had connected any type of braille displays. I believe it has everything to do with the last upgrade and hope for a fix with the next one to come. Lois -Original Message- From: Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Wifi issues continue The reason why I believe there is a relationship is because I have encountered numerous issues with the iPhone not connecting to my network and none of these problems started until I paired my Refreshabraille to the iPHone. I've done a pretty fair bit of testing and removing the pairing for the display has resolved the issue. In fact I was sitting here reading a couple of publications and found the WIFI connection dropped on a couple of occasions. So, this would take a lot of discussion on the list which may not be of interest to others. So, if you want to discuss it further drop me a note off list and I would be glad to explain more. On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott. Just curious, what makes you think the issue is related to braille displays? I have connected a bunch of different devices to my phone at different times and am having this issue. But how could the bluetooth in the phone be related to the Wifi? Thanks for any insite, Scott On 9/8/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, There will probably be people that tell you otherwise, but I don't think theres enough information out there to pinpoint a specific hardware combination that this happens with. For example, I have a 3GS running 5.1.1 and experienced the issue with 2 different Netgear routers; other people have had the same issue on a 4S under 5.1.1 with dLink. If anything I'd blaim 5.1.1 so hopefully we'll see a fix in iOs 6. Cheers, Ben. On 9/8/12, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a related question. My router is a Linksys WRT 54G and works flawlessly with my 3 GS. IOS on my phone is updated to 5.1.1. Now for the question. Are these wifi issues related to a specific model of iPhone, or are they related to a particular version of IOS or a specific router? I ask because I plan to purchase either a 4S if the price is right or possibly an iPhone 5. Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/7/2012 7:45 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey wrote: I had similar problem with WIFI and Iphone. Sometimes it wouldn't see network. Sometimes it would connect OK after I reset everything but as soon as phone went to sleep, no WIFI when I woke it up. Turns out it's an Iphone problem. So if your Iphone is under warranty, have an Apple store check it out. They at first thought mine was OK after they ran it through their diagnostics and check systems. But I was a scheptic and waited around. Well, the WIFI died again in front of them so they gave me another phone. Verizon had not a clue and insisted it was my network/router, but being that my Ipad and Ipold were fine and another Iphone was fine, as well as my computers, I figured it wasn't my network. And it wasn't. All is well after getting replacement phone. I read an article somewhere about one of the chips going south lots of times in the 4S series, so the problem is out there. HTH. Mary Anne On 9/1/2012 2:35 AM, Ben J Bloomgren wrote: Mari, I'm wondering about that too, as my iPod Touch 4G does the same thing. It'll stream a whole day of a cricket test, which is upwards of seven hours; then, however, it won't allow me to add birthdays to My Calendar Mobile through Facebook. It's bloody annoying at times. I'm in a somewhat large house (2300 square feet), and I'm across the house from the router. It's the same type of router. I'm thinking of purchasing a signal booster from Walmart or BestBuy or somewhere. Hopefully that'll solve this. I'm getting a iPhone in February, Lord willing, and I pray that it won't have similar problems. Ben On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Mari solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com mailto:solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote: *I reported some time ago regarding the issues regarding my prior and current Iphone is not staying connected to my Lynksis router WRT54G2,* ** *I reset the firmware on the router* ** *reset all network settings on iphone including network settings* ** *I needed to find out if anyone has any other thoughts as I've tried changing the channel no luck so am I
Re: Wifi issues continue
Kawal, I use an APH Refreshabraille, but not sure it is specific to the display because I know someone who has the same display and does not have the problems I'm experiencing. The unfortunate part is there are as many variables as possible issues. :) So, finding the solution is going to be incredibly difficult. On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. Is this with only certain braille displays? My display is fine and my wifi does not drop even though I use the bluetooth on my braille display. If it is so for you write to Apple and see if they can fix it. Kawal. On 9 Sep 2012, at 02:07 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: The reason why I believe there is a relationship is because I have encountered numerous issues with the iPhone not connecting to my network and none of these problems started until I paired my Refreshabraille to the iPHone. I've done a pretty fair bit of testing and removing the pairing for the display has resolved the issue. In fact I was sitting here reading a couple of publications and found the WIFI connection dropped on a couple of occasions. So, this would take a lot of discussion on the list which may not be of interest to others. So, if you want to discuss it further drop me a note off list and I would be glad to explain more. On Sep 8, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott. Just curious, what makes you think the issue is related to braille displays? I have connected a bunch of different devices to my phone at different times and am having this issue. But how could the bluetooth in the phone be related to the Wifi? Thanks for any insite, Scott On 9/8/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, There will probably be people that tell you otherwise, but I don't think theres enough information out there to pinpoint a specific hardware combination that this happens with. For example, I have a 3GS running 5.1.1 and experienced the issue with 2 different Netgear routers; other people have had the same issue on a 4S under 5.1.1 with dLink. If anything I'd blaim 5.1.1 so hopefully we'll see a fix in iOs 6. Cheers, Ben. On 9/8/12, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a related question. My router is a Linksys WRT 54G and works flawlessly with my 3 GS. IOS on my phone is updated to 5.1.1. Now for the question. Are these wifi issues related to a specific model of iPhone, or are they related to a particular version of IOS or a specific router? I ask because I plan to purchase either a 4S if the price is right or possibly an iPhone 5. Thanks. Don Roberts On 9/7/2012 7:45 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey wrote: I had similar problem with WIFI and Iphone. Sometimes it wouldn't see network. Sometimes it would connect OK after I reset everything but as soon as phone went to sleep, no WIFI when I woke it up. Turns out it's an Iphone problem. So if your Iphone is under warranty, have an Apple store check it out. They at first thought mine was OK after they ran it through their diagnostics and check systems. But I was a scheptic and waited around. Well, the WIFI died again in front of them so they gave me another phone. Verizon had not a clue and insisted it was my network/router, but being that my Ipad and Ipold were fine and another Iphone was fine, as well as my computers, I figured it wasn't my network. And it wasn't. All is well after getting replacement phone. I read an article somewhere about one of the chips going south lots of times in the 4S series, so the problem is out there. HTH. Mary Anne On 9/1/2012 2:35 AM, Ben J Bloomgren wrote: Mari, I'm wondering about that too, as my iPod Touch 4G does the same thing. It'll stream a whole day of a cricket test, which is upwards of seven hours; then, however, it won't allow me to add birthdays to My Calendar Mobile through Facebook. It's bloody annoying at times. I'm in a somewhat large house (2300 square feet), and I'm across the house from the router. It's the same type of router. I'm thinking of purchasing a signal booster from Walmart or BestBuy or somewhere. Hopefully that'll solve this. I'm getting a iPhone in February, Lord willing, and I pray that it won't have similar problems. Ben On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Mari solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com mailto:solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote: *I reported some time ago regarding the issues regarding my prior and current Iphone is not staying connected to my Lynksis router WRT54G2,* ** *I reset the firmware on the router* ** *reset all network settings on iphone including network settings* ** *I needed to find out if anyone has any other thoughts as I've tried changing the channel no luck so am I to assume its the router then? I was hoping to hear back from the moderator if he had any ideas but I realy just need help please. My other devices computers connect
Re: Any good Recipe apps?
Yes, Paprika for the iPHone and/or iPad is in my opinion the absolute best of the best. Why? Well for one thing it is very accessible and has lots of great features. And there is no question of the developer's willingness and ability to address accessibility. I'm sure there are other apps and everyone will have their own opinion, but I can recommend Paprika by Hindsight Labs LLC with absolutely no reservations. For the iPhone, http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8 For the iPad, http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028?mt=8 Scot On Sep 9, 2012, at 2:55 PM, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys have you found any good recipe apps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Any good Recipe apps?
THe difference between Paprika and Big Oven is Paprika is a true recipe management app and Big Oven as far as I recall is more a resource app for obtaining recipes. So, each app fills a different need. On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Paprika does indeed look like a good app. Another one that was recommended in a book by Ms. Dresner is called Big Oven. I've used it to search for all kinds of recipes, and the only comment that I have is that I haven't found a way yet to store recipes locally on the phone or e-mail them to somebody. I'm still relatively new to the app. Tom - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Any good Recipe apps? Yes, Paprika for the iPHone and/or iPad is in my opinion the absolute best of the best. Why? Well for one thing it is very accessible and has lots of great features. And there is no question of the developer's willingness and ability to address accessibility. I'm sure there are other apps and everyone will have their own opinion, but I can recommend Paprika by Hindsight Labs LLC with absolutely no reservations. For the iPhone, http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8 For the iPad, http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028?mt=8 Scot On Sep 9, 2012, at 2:55 PM, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys have you found any good recipe apps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: New Tech Doctor podcast entitled 1Password and VoiceOver
The 1Password app includes a version that only runs on the iPhone for about $9.99 and another that runs on both iPhone and iPad and is the pro version for I believe $14.95. You might as well spend the extra couple dollars and go with the pro version IMHO. I have been using 1Password for years and highly recommend it. On Sep 9, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't listened to the podcast, but I'm curious, is this an app for the iPhone? I only see the Mac mentioned below. On 09/09/12 20:40, Robert Carter wrote: Hi, In this just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert describes the 1Password password manager and demonstrates how to use the software with VoiceOver. He ends the podcast by discussing his approach to general Mac security. The Tech Doctor podcast is available via iTunes, iBlink radio and on the web at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
THose with WIFI connections that are dropped
All, FOr those of you that have lost your WIFI connection seemingly randomly, I have a question and this may have already been asked/answered. If you are loosing your WIFI connection randomly even while your phone is unlocked and in use, do you have bluetooth turned on? If so, have you tried turning it off for a while as a test? If so, do you know if the WIFI connection remained solid? I would like to know. Thanks, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have found that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a Braille display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated. I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or Braille when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be brought to APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing accessibil...@apple.com. On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to have happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a link, as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click it. But if I wrote the url like this, www.google.coj, and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not activate that link. Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then double tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other punctuation or something on the line with the link. Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some. - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book Greetings to the list. I am using iBooks 1.1.1 on my iPhone 3GS to read a book in the Rough Guide travel series. This book contains links to sections of chapters which it lists at the start of each chapter. Try as I might, I cannot activate those links and jump to a desired page number. I have stopped continuous reading, changed the rotor to word mode, and double-tapped on words in the title of the link and on the word link itself, all to no avail. Of course, I can activate the search button and do a search for the desired section's title, but I'd rather just click on the link for that title. Any suggestions are welcome and most appreciated. Craig g -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: THose with WIFI connections that are dropped
Keith, First I would never beat a dead horse, I would eat him instead. As far as chasing fantom squirrels, those are the squirrels that I am chasing around in that attic you call your big empty head and with a tennis racket at that. If you do not have anything constructive to add to this thread, pound sand you big dope. :) I know it's hot in FLorida, but what is wrong with you and your heat stroke. You are one strange duck and your dog smells. On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, You have asked this question before. It is my opinion that you are chasing phantom squirrels. Beating a dead horse. I can see no reason why having bluetooth enabled would cause your whyfi to randomly disconnect. Maybe you should contact Apple and give them a piece of your mind. If you can spare any that is. Keith On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: All, FOr those of you that have lost your WIFI connection seemingly randomly, I have a question and this may have already been asked/answered. If you are loosing your WIFI connection randomly even while your phone is unlocked and in use, do you have bluetooth turned on? If so, have you tried turning it off for a while as a test? If so, do you know if the WIFI connection remained solid? I would like to know. Thanks, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: THose with WIFI connections that are dropped
And John you would be correct and there is nothing worse than a flaky network connection that may really be a direct result of smelly dead horses and squirrels. :) Ah and how we have fun. :) On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm not sure that it isn't actually the horse, the duck and those squirrels that smell. Now, back to your regularly scheduled IOS threads. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
David, Yes it does bring focus, but also crashes VO. Of course pressing the router button should perform the action which is to take you to that location where the link points. Bringing up a menu would sort of defeat the purpose. If the link took you to an external site that would make sense, but in this case these are links that are internal to the book itself and take you to a specific page, chapter, etc. So, maybe all this will be addressed in iOS 6. :) On Sep 11, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Find the link with your braille display and press one of the router buttons under it to get VO highlighted on it. Perform the double-tap and hold gesture on the display. Double-tap and hold activates the pass through gesture on whatever VO is highlighted on. Pass through gesture cannot currently be performed on the braille display. Note: I have not done this in iBooks. I have done this in other apps, so it should work, though not guaranteed. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12/09/2012, at 9:20, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, The links at least in my case should take you to a specific point in the book. So, if that is how one would access the link then that would be a problem when using a Braille display. So, we may be talking two separate issues here. Thanks On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:50 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, When you use up and down flicks along with the rotor to navigate on to the exact link, use a double-tap and hold (pass-through gesture) to tell the iOS device you want to work specifically with the link. A menu of options should pop up. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 11/09/2012, at 14:25, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Dameshe and Scott, for weighing in. I am going to get sighted help tomorrow and do some more experimenting. Dameshe, from a character by character search of lines containing links, it certainly appears that any line containing a link carries other information besides the name of the link, including greater than signs signifying the presence of a link. I'll be back with an update soon. Craig On 9/10/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have found that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a Braille display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated. I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or Braille when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be brought to APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing accessibil...@apple.com. On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to have happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a link, as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click it. But if I wrote the url like this, www.google.coj, and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not activate that link. Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then double tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other punctuation or something on the line with the link. Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some. - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book Greetings to the list. I am using iBooks 1.1.1 on my iPhone 3GS to read a book in the Rough Guide travel series. This book contains links to sections of chapters which it lists at the start of each chapter. Try as I might, I cannot activate those links and jump to a desired page number. I have stopped continuous reading, changed the rotor to word mode, and double-tapped on words in the title of the link and on the word link itself, all to no avail. Of course, I can activate the search button and do a search for the desired section's title, but I'd rather just click on the link for that title. Any suggestions are welcome and most appreciated. Craig g -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
News360 - has anyone tried this app?
All, I had read an article about Nes360 which is an interesting aggregator as it pulls stories from multiple points of view and presents them. I tried the app on my iPad and I have to admit I'm not sure if the interface is just confusing to me initially or there are some accessibility issues with the app. So, I thought I would ask if anyone has tried this app out. You can find more information or download it for free by going to http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/news360/id394648566?mt=8. I would be curious what others think and if there are issues of accessibility please let me know. I'd like to communicate with the developer and see if these issues (assuming there are such) can be addressed. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
Craig, I hope you do get a response, but you wont' know until you try. :) THey may not respond immediately, but your message will not be ignored. On Sep 12, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: I continue to experiment, but as of this writing, no maneuver, including the double-tap and hold pass-through option, is successful in activating a link to take me to a particular page number of a chapter. I am working within only one book, but from the comments on the list, I assume this problem is endemic to, or at least prevalent in, the in-page links encountered in iBooks. I'll continue to work on this problem. If I were to phone Apple accessibility or email the accessibility site, would I be likely to get a response? I have never interacted with Apple tech support. Craig On 9/12/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, Yes it does bring focus, but also crashes VO. Of course pressing the router button should perform the action which is to take you to that location where the link points. Bringing up a menu would sort of defeat the purpose. If the link took you to an external site that would make sense, but in this case these are links that are internal to the book itself and take you to a specific page, chapter, etc. So, maybe all this will be addressed in iOS 6. :) On Sep 11, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Find the link with your braille display and press one of the router buttons under it to get VO highlighted on it. Perform the double-tap and hold gesture on the display. Double-tap and hold activates the pass through gesture on whatever VO is highlighted on. Pass through gesture cannot currently be performed on the braille display. Note: I have not done this in iBooks. I have done this in other apps, so it should work, though not guaranteed. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12/09/2012, at 9:20, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: David, The links at least in my case should take you to a specific point in the book. So, if that is how one would access the link then that would be a problem when using a Braille display. So, we may be talking two separate issues here. Thanks On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:50 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, When you use up and down flicks along with the rotor to navigate on to the exact link, use a double-tap and hold (pass-through gesture) to tell the iOS device you want to work specifically with the link. A menu of options should pop up. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 11/09/2012, at 14:25, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Dameshe and Scott, for weighing in. I am going to get sighted help tomorrow and do some more experimenting. Dameshe, from a character by character search of lines containing links, it certainly appears that any line containing a link carries other information besides the name of the link, including greater than signs signifying the presence of a link. I'll be back with an update soon. Craig On 9/10/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have found that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a Braille display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated. I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or Braille when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be brought to APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing accessibil...@apple.com. On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to have happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a link, as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click it. But if I wrote the url like this, www.google.coj, and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not activate that link. Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then double tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other punctuation or something on the line with the link. Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some. - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book Greetings to the list. I am using iBooks 1.1.1 on my iPhone 3GS to read a book in the Rough Guide travel series. This book contains links to sections of chapters which it lists at the start of each chapter. Try as I might, I
Re: iPhone news
I don't think I understand the complaint here. If you are looking for more space and you are not interested in the other features, look for a gently used iPhone 4 or 4S. You might even be able to get one from the carrier, but either way look around because you will find them out there. Hey contact APple you never know they may have some refurbished units available, although I have no idea if they sell referred iPhones or not. Fact is you want to play you gotta pay. On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Miranda B. knownofl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As someone who has an 8GB iPhone 3GS and who plans to upgrade when the option on my contract is available soon, I'm personally frustrated that I'll probably end up needing to pay between $100-$200 just to get more memory essentially. I do realize that the newer phones have many newer and greater features, and this is great. But, it seems silly to me to upgrade to a newer phone that will have the same amount of room as my 3GS, when my only issue right now with my 3GS is my lack of storage space. The problem for me is compounded by the fact that both my husband and I plan to upgrade, so whatever we pay is multiplied by two. Just my thoughts. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to bite the bullit. We're not planning to go any higher than 16GB at this point though, because we don't see ourselves needing more space than that. In Christ, Miranda -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 5:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone news Apple to retire iPhone 3GS with low-end 8GB iPhone 4S debuting at next week's iPhone 5 event By Raymond Wong | BGR News - Thu, Sep 6, 2012 We already know that next week's September 12th Apple (AAPL) event will bring the announcement of the iPhone 5, but rumor has it the 8GB iPhone 3GS will finally be retired. The Telegraph reports that sources close to retailers say Apple will replace the entry-level iPhone 3GS with the 8GB iPhone 4 and a new 8GB iPhone 4S to its lineup. Essentially, the 8GB iPhone 4 will be offered free on contract as the 3GS has been, and the 8GB iPhone 4S will become a new mid-point offering. Naturally, the new iPhone 5 will sit at the top of the totem pole and will come in capacities of 16GB , 32GB and 64GB. It can be argued that the 3GS has been a boon in emerging markets, especially because Apple will continue to support it in iOS 6, but we think it's time to let the three-year-old device go. After all, it is the only iPhone that still doesn't support Retina display apps. [Via MacRumors -- Sent from my Windows laptop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: New Tech Doctor podcast entitled 1Password and VoiceOver
Well I have to disagree with you on this one my friend. First of all the 1Password is encrypted and it would be nearly impossible for anyone to crack the file even if they have it. THe fact is the file is encrypted on your machine and not somebody's server. I'd be more concerned about my data being on a remote server that is encrypted by that server instead of it being encrypted on my machine and stored on a remote server. On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Wow, you really have faith in Dropbox. I would not trust them with my entire database of passwords. I thought OnePassword worked among various platforms and devices, e.g. you use it on your PC and if you add a passcard or whatever they call it it should be available on other computers you may have and your iPhone. I personally use Roboform and the Roboform Everywhere service which costs $20 a year stores all my passcards and SafeNotes on their servers in an encrypted and secure way. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carter Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Tech Doctor podcast entitled 1Password and VoiceOver Hi, This issue is covered in detail on the latest NOSILLA cast over at http://www.podfeet.com As far as 1password, I save the password database in DropBox so it would be automatically available on a new device as soon as I installed DropBox on the new device. Robert Carter On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Hello Robert, I love your podcasts, and got about 1/3rd way into it before I had to head to work. I'll get back to it. I heard today on one of the broadcast news morning shows about a breach of Apple ID security from a corporate magazine entity in Florida. Apparently a million Aplle U D I D's were breached. Apparently this is abig deal and risks security for many. Do you know anything about this in general, but in particular if this kind of breach would jeopardize the security on 1Password? The journalist covering the story seemed to indicate the only way around it with confidence was to get a new Apple device, presumably one with a different and secure U D I D. You mentioned you had 63 or so passwords within 1Password. I presume you would get them all back with use of a new Apple device, but do you know if this would be true? Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Carter Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Tech Doctor podcast entitled 1Password and VoiceOver Hi, You can enter any password that you like in to 1password. It is just that the randomly generated passwords are generally stronger and more difficult to crack than what we humans normally come up with. Robert On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: Robert, I liked the podcast. You talked about the computer generated passwords. Can you create your own password in this? On 9/9/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't listened to the podcast, but I'm curious, is this an app for the iPhone? I only see the Mac mentioned below. On 09/09/12 20:40, Robert Carter wrote: Hi, In this just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert describes the 1Password password manager and demonstrates how to use the software with VoiceOver. He ends the podcast by discussing his approach to general Mac security. The Tech Doctor podcast is available via iTunes, iBlink radio and on the web at http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to
Re: News360 - has anyone tried this app?
Thanks Mary and I'm finding that is more the issue. There are loads of unlabeled buttons, but the concept is interesting. On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I tried news360 a while back. And I couldn't understand how to make it work. It has been a little while, so I don't remember all the issues, but I just didn't get far with it. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Anyone find out yet whether ATT Is Going To Charge More for 4G?
You can bet ATT will charge for the LTE (or 4G) service. I would bet that phones by default connect to 3G and if you want the LTE speeds you would have to request that through the carrier. I sure would not be happy to be paying the same cost as you and you get faster speeds. :) On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Subject asks it all. If no one knows this yet, I will try to find out shortly. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone news
And will drive the cost down. WHen I choose to upgrade I might just hang on to my 4S as a spare. On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: As I mentioned earlier, I think that in the next few weeks we will all see many used iPhone 4 and 4S models being sold by those who want to jump onto the iPhone 5. -- Raul A. Gallegos A good friend can tell you what is the matter with you in a minute. He may not seem such a good friend after telling. ~ Arthur Brisbane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/12/2012 5:34 PM, Tess wrote: Yeah, I bought the 4S 64 gig, pondering to sell the thing and go for the 5 depending on what is in the 5 that I really want. If there isn't much in the 5, then I will hold onto my 4S. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone news Paul, The good news is that if storage is not an issue for you, i.e. 8 Gig is enough, it appears you will be able to get an iPhone 4S with 8 Gig of storage for only $99 which will still give you SIRI. I still think spending the $100 more and get an iPhone 5 with 16 Gig is well worth it, but that is just me. After all, the real cost is in the monthly plans not in the $99, $199 or $299 to uy the thing, well maybe the $299 or $399 for the 64 Gig does add up. Anyhow, I can see where the 8 Gig iPhone 4S could be an attractive option for people who are fairly invested in accessories such as cables, docks, cases etc. But at the same time I am sure we'll see lots of adapters soon to go from the new smaller dock connector to the traditional 30-Pin connector. It's also nothing new that you have to spend a minimum of a couple of hundred bucks to get the latest iPhone, it's been like that for the 4 and the 4S and probably for the 3GS, but that was before my time. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5
You know at this point RIch I think I'll be waiting. I'm fine with my 4S and to be honest I'm a little displeased with ATT's practices with respect to those with unlimited data plans and not allowing such subscribers use Face TIme. Maybe a small thing, but it is the principle of the matter. I guess if I really just have to have that phone I could always switch to another carrier and give my kid my phone or more likely my wife since she would use the data more than my kid. However, think I'll go check one out first. On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Rich Cavallaro richcav1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So, what do you all think of iPhone 5? How many of you are going to upgrade? For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is worth the upgrade. What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6. What are peoples thoughts? Rich Cavallaro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Anyone find out yet whether ATT Is Going To Charge More for 4G?
I cannot believe they do not charge for the faster speed. Of course maybe since you chew through the data faster that is the tradeoff. And hey maybe you will go over your cap and they can charge you even more. :) On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:23 PM, jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things are going to be different for the apple devices, 4g will not cost extra. Currently, at least for devices that support LTE, android and alike, the cost is exactly the same as it is for 3g, on the IPhone4. On 9/12/2012 6:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: You can bet ATT will charge for the LTE (or 4G) service. I would bet that phones by default connect to 3G and if you want the LTE speeds you would have to request that through the carrier. I sure would not be happy to be paying the same cost as you and you get faster speeds. :) On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Subject asks it all. If no one knows this yet, I will try to find out shortly. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Anyone find out yet whether ATT Is Going To Charge More for 4G?
Thanks for sharing that bit of info. I do find it hard to imagine you could get the better speed and not have to pay something for it. I know VZW charges differently for their LTE plans, but that may have something to do with the amount of data more than the speed at which you consume it. On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:14 PM, jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote: That's sort of what I was thinking to. It'd be just like them to ketch you in such a trick, but, oddly enough, when the 4g was activated, I began to get these strange texts, informing me on how to better manage my faster 4g speeds. They'd give you a few examples of locations with free wifi, tips on using it from your homes wireless, etc. Fortunately for me so far though, I've went back to the apple for a bit, as I have a few frustrations with the droid, so no huge data charges, quite yet. be well. On 9/12/2012 7:47 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I cannot believe they do not charge for the faster speed. Of course maybe since you chew through the data faster that is the tradeoff. And hey maybe you will go over your cap and they can charge you even more. :) On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:23 PM, jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things are going to be different for the apple devices, 4g will not cost extra. Currently, at least for devices that support LTE, android and alike, the cost is exactly the same as it is for 3g, on the IPhone4. On 9/12/2012 6:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: You can bet ATT will charge for the LTE (or 4G) service. I would bet that phones by default connect to 3G and if you want the LTE speeds you would have to request that through the carrier. I sure would not be happy to be paying the same cost as you and you get faster speeds. :) On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Subject asks it all. If no one knows this yet, I will try to find out shortly. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Summary from today's event
The cost will actually be $29.change although I believe $29.99. On Sep 13, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: It is just a new name for the new headset which will come with the iPhone 5 and the iPod Touch 5 devices. It is also available for $30 or $35 as a separate purchase if you want to use it with your existing iDevice. Apparently it’s better quality with a larger remote. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karim Lakhani Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Summary from today's event Hi, Does an ear pod mean you can store music on it as well? Not sure what the purpose of a ear pod would be other then that? Thanks. $ EMAIL: karim.lakh...@shaw.ca $ I've always felt the writer's great weapon is the truth and integrity of his voice. As long as what you're saying is what you truly, honestly believe to be the case, then whatever the consequences, that's fine. That's an honorable position. - Salman Rushdie $$ SKYPE: Contact: goldenace4 Canada Please Visit The Ice Zone if you love hockey or not? Http://members.shaw.ca/theicezone/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Summary from today's event Hi, The earPod is a earpiece accessory from Apple. The fifth gen iTouch will be available in 32 or 64 GB model. Cheers, Joseph From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Moop Curran Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Summary from today's event Hi, What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 gb, if so it's kind of a bummer for us stubborn people who won't store our music in the cloud. Courtney Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio,http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: earPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5
I do believe the next model will just improve on the iPhone 5 features. I like the idea of the faster processor and some of the other hardware changes, but I suspect next year there will be additional improvements. ALso this is the first year Apple has used some new methods of production and I'll be really curious how this works out. I'm very impressed with what Apple has done with the iPhone 5. In fact I anticipate going forward there will be changes in all of their devices that reflect the technologies used in the iPhones. On Sep 12, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Tess tess...@gmail.com wrote: I would have to agree, after reading all this hype about the 5, it just isn't worth going out and spending hundreds of bucks. I can download the IOS 6 for my 4S and be just fine with it. Shucks, maybe by the time my contract is up, something might be remotely better then this. Personally the 5 was just a makeup job on the phone itself, nothing so grand like the 4S was when it came out. Just my humble opinion of course. Still, 4S has worked fantastic for me, no battery issues or anything, and I work my phone to the bone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone 5 How about 4G? Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote: Only reason for me who has a 4S would be for the 4th generation connection, but I think I will wait until next year. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Cavallaro Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 17:13 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone 5 Hi all, So, what do you all think of iPhone 5? How many of you are going to upgrade? For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is worth the upgrade. What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6. What are peoples thoughts? Rich Cavallaro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5
I'm not so sure swapping cards is going to be all that easy. In fact I have the impression that trimming the current sim used in the iPhone 4S to fit a 5 is not possible. On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Oh wow, I think I missed that part on the changes. I didn't know that. Still though, swapping SIM cards shouldn't be impossible, just like people did when the micro SIMs were new. Thanks for that info. -- Raul A. Gallegos I watched the Indy 500, and I was thinking that if they left earlier they wouldn't have to go so fast. - Steven Wright Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/13/2012 2:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Raul, Yes, they use SIM cards, but the iPhone 5 is now going to an even smaller SIM card called a Nano SIM. I assume that you could probably cut a Micro SIM to the size of a Nano SIM just like you can cut a regular size SIM to the size of a Nano SIM. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone 5 The iPhone 5 sounds pretty nifty. However I am perfectly happy with my 4S right now so will be keeping it for a bit. My wife is considering the jump from the Galaxy Android to the iPHone 5 and she's eligible for the upgrade right now. So, we'll see. If I get desperate enough I'll have her the the 5, then I'll give her my 4S, and keep the 5 for myself. I love that ATT uses sim cards. -- Raul A. Gallegos If you tell a joke in the forest, but nobody laughs, was it a joke? - Steven Wright Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/12/2012 5:12 PM, Rich Cavallaro wrote: Hi all, So, what do you all think of iPhone 5? How many of you are going to upgrade? For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is worth the upgrade. What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6. What are peoples thoughts? Rich Cavallaro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: I do not ask this in a nasty way, and please ...
The only reason I can see upgrading is if you want the extra horsepower of the processor, faster mobile broadband, and the new phone. On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:24 AM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: accept apologies if someone takes offense, but why would someone with a 4s want to go to apple i5? Won't our upgrade have all the bells and whistles? I know, latest as greatest! Smiles. Reggie and Brooks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Accessible procedure for unlock iPhone 4ios 5 1 1
Unlocking would increase the value, but jailbreaking would not add any value. Your carrier should unlock the phone (provide instructions) once your phone is out of contract and upon request. On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, If anything, in your situation, I think jailbreaking and unlocking would decrease the value of the phone - I know I would pay less for it. The solution for your device would mean that the new owner would *never* be able to do a normal restore even if they wanted to loos the unlock jb; it just wouldn't work. How would the owner feel if they wern't able to upgrade to iOs 6? If you can't afford to / don't have the option of getting it properly unlocked then don't bother trying and just sell it locked. Cheers, Ben. On 9/13/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure jail breaking will increase the price you can get for your phone. Warranty may not be an issue, but jail breaking will void your warranty and you won't be able to get support from Apple or your carrier. I think it will depend on whether the person who wants to purchase your phone wants it to be jail broken or not. Maybe you can offer that option on request. On 13/09/12 13:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi, I want to maximize prize when selling old phone so would like to jail brake and unlock. I assume there is an unteathered jb for latest ios 5? Any help is appreciated. By the way I use a Mac. Best, Ioana Typed with Fleksy http://fleksy.com/app reply://igandra...@gmail.com Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com http://www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online stores. Sent from my phone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Cooking App for the iPHone
Try a ziplock bag. On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I am very curious. I have stayed away from the cooking apps because I worry about the phone getting messy, dropped in my food... How do you use this when cooking? On 9/13/12, Amy Billman amy0...@gmail.com wrote: Oh there are so many cooking related apps on the iPhone; and very good ones at that! There's Big Oven, Kraft iFood assistant, Betty Crocker Mobile Cookbook, McCormick Recipe Finder, and All Recipes; just to name a few! I have too big of a collection... There's also a crockpot one from Sun Beam products. Really, with all the accessible and free recipe apps on the iPhone, you can have a wealth of cookbooks/recipes at your fingertips, and you'll have more than you can cook from. *smile* Don't look at recipes when you're hungry though... haha! I will say though that the Big Oven App (for me anyway,) tended to be very laggy on the 3GS; just something worth noting, if any of you 3gS users are interested in that one in particular. It is however, not laggy on the 4 or 4S. Amy Billman SpeedDots: your leader for cell phone accessories, and the makers of the tactile screen protector http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of VaShaun Jones Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cooking App for the iPHone Thanks for this. I was originally looking for one to do a presentation on. Now you guys are making me feel like I will be cooking allot. Again thanks for the suggestions. On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I have the Epicurious app on my phone. What I like about it is when it is first opened, the first page will give you different selections on the type of meals if you are interested in one of the categories. There are also four different buttons at the bottom to go to the home menu, search, favorites, shopping list, and about. At the upper right hand corner after making a category selection, there is a toggle list button. This needs to be tapped on to open the list of recipes. Once you have selected a recipe by tapping on it, there is an Add button that will give you options to add it to your favorite list, email the recipes, tweet it, send to Facebook, or add to the shopping list. There are different ways to search when you tap on the search button. There are different types of food items such as avocado, bacon, etc. to link on for recipes. There is a text field to type in a type of recipe you are looking for or a food item to search the app. Besides different food items to search for, there are categories for dietary considerations, dish type, main/course, seasonal, and etc. For 1.99, you can get the recipe box and sync the recipes there. I have not considered spending the money because I place it in my favorites or email myself the recipes. This is a good little app. I believe it is free minus the recipe box sync for $1.99. The developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy. Epicurious Recipes Shopping List Condé Nast Digital Best, Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7473 (20120913) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7473 (20120913) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: i5 Underwhelming
I read the A6 is a quad core. So, if it is not, where was this information located? I always like to check multiple sources because there are some sources on the net that posts garbage. There are only a few truly accurate sites such as MacWOrld that report more accurately than others. On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:37 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Now that's something I wasn't aware of and in my opinion sounds like a stupid thing to do. Is that just a method of holding something back to make you come back and buy the next one done properly? On 9/13/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not? To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the old models. Sounds like the case will be nicer as you said. I can't really say I get the point people are trying to make about it being underwhelming and not really any real upgrade and things like that. When I read things like that I just really want to scream, what do you want! I think at times people get an idea in their head and lose track of why logicly. On 9/13/12, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you're right. Remember though that your performance is only as good as your wireless network and/or your cell service. Anyway, I don't mean for the thread to balloon into a negative rant. I was just offering some views from a consumer's viewpoint. Joe From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Joe, It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5. Keith On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it's because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but then, maybe it's because there is only one annual update that the iPhone should make more of a splash. Anyway, for whatever it's worth, if you're sitting on the 4S, my consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered. Let's hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more in line with the cool factor it once enjoyed. Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To
Re: iPhone 5
I have to admit that looking at Sprints offerings I am rather impressed. FOr my wife and I it would cost me only a couple more dollars to get twice the level of service. No make that three times the service. I could get unlimited data, text, and 1,500 minutes of babble time (evenings start at 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m.) both iPhones for $120. That is before a 15% discount via my employer. Either way I'd come out ahead. Only thing is I'd have to figure out their coverage area. And with ATT and the games they seem to want to play on iPhone subscribers, it is making the decision a lot easier when my contract expires with ATT. On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote: I find it a little irritating with Verizon that in order to keep your unlimited data plan, you must pay full price for the iPhone 5. I think I'm going to Sprint with the rest of my family. We don't even have 4G here yet, but hopefully it's coming. On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote: Only reason for me who has a 4S would be for the 4th generation connection, but I think I will wait until next year. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Cavallaro Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 17:13 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone 5 Hi all, So, what do you all think of iPhone 5? How many of you are going to upgrade? For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is worth the upgrade. What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6. What are peoples thoughts? Rich Cavallaro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5
What would make the switch to VZW more palatable once LTE has rolled out. ALthough (not that it is a big deal) the idea of having voice and data access at the same time is handy. Maybe this will change before to long and that will just be one more thing that further levels the playing field. On Sep 14, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kimberly, I forgot to mention that if you stay with Verizon and get an iPhone 5, the Share Everything Plan which is probably the one you will go to will have unlimited texting and unlimited minutes. Good luck with your decision. I suspect we will stay with Verizon, as I do not see a compelling reason to switch; they have good coverage and that's important. Les On Sep 14, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Les. I will use that tip to check and see how much data we use. I suspect you're right, and I probably barely use a gig a month. I just wanted to make folks aware that they would be losing their unlimited data. I also realize that Sprint's unlimited data probably really isn't unlimited because it's so slow. Decisions decisions! :) On Sep 14, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Kimberly, After reading your message, I contacted Verizon to verify what you heard. You are correct; the unlimited data plan will go unless one pays full retail for the iPhone 5. However, before making any decisions, I would recommend you check your data usage on all of the phones on your plan. You can get that information in a text message by typing pound data and send from your phone. You may be surprised at what yo learn. For instance, my wife and I use less than a gigabyte per month by quite a bit. A 2 gigabyte plan for data usage would cost us $10 less than we are paying now. If we opt for a 4 gigabyte plan, we'd be paying the same as we are now. So in summary, I encourage you to check your data usage before running off to another carrier. Les On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote: I find it a little irritating with Verizon that in order to keep your unlimited data plan, you must pay full price for the iPhone 5. I think I'm going to Sprint with the rest of my family. We don't even have 4G here yet, but hopefully it's coming. On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote: Only reason for me who has a 4S would be for the 4th generation connection, but I think I will wait until next year. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Cavallaro Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 17:13 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iPhone 5 Hi all, So, what do you all think of iPhone 5? How many of you are going to upgrade? For me personally, since I am upgrading from an iPhone 4, I think it is worth the upgrade. What with Siri, the faster processor, three microphones LTE and maps features-thigns you won't get on the 4 with IOS 6. What are peoples thoughts? Rich Cavallaro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: i5 Underwhelming
Sieghard, THanks for sharing the article and it was pretty interesting. I do not know either about the ram beyond what has ben said, but even the normally reliable sources are not Apple, so correct that we do not know until the horse speaks. I really believe it matters little about how many cores at the end of the day. Because if the software is not leveraging those extra cores it will be of little benefit in the end. What does matter as the article points out is the size of the chip and so forth. I'd rather have longer battery life than speed. I believe there is a balance where you can achieve good battery life and still retain good performance. Obviously the other factor is how well the OS has been optimized to leverage the architecture of the hardware. I really have no complaints about the performance of my 4S and find few occasions where it bogs down. What I'm more interested in is the overall battery life and if there is a marketable increase or about the same and the level of overall performance. However, what is more interesting to me is the increased audio quality from the internal speaker, not that I have any complaints about the 4S. Now that aluminum case sounds nice and how the whole package is assembled is something I do want to check out. I get the impression that how the phone itself is manufactured is pretty impressive including how the screen is constructed. Scott On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Scott, From all I read and heard the A6 is not a Quad Core and may not even have a Quad Core GPU (graphics processing unit) as is the case with the A5X which is in the new iPad. Here is a link to an article, it's a bit technical, but it makes it clear that we don't know exactly yet what the specs are until one of those places that takes things apart really takes a closer look. Apple certainly did not say at their event, they did not even say or emphasize that the iPhone 5 has 1 Gig of RAM, I think most people expect it does, but Apple to my knowledge has not confirmed this. The article makes it clear that the number of Cores, and Neil pointed this out already, is definitely not the only benchmark for getting better overall performance and also that battery life is a big factor when it comes to decisions on which CPU is chosen. The size and architecture of the CPU apparently are even more important than how many Cores it has and apparently the iPhoen 4S, for example, runs only at about 800 Mhz clock speed with its A5 CPU and yet it's considered to be one of the faster phones out there, it's very snappy and responsive. Just as an example, I once tested an LG phone 3 years ago which had a 1 Ghz Snapdragon CPU with Windows Mobile 6.5 and MobileSpeak, it was a touch screen phone with slide-out keyboard and it was unbelieveably sluggish. OK, Here is that link: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/what-do-we-know-about-apples-new-a6-pro cessor/ Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
ANd USB to my knowledge does not carry video etc. as this new connector does. On Sep 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote: They wouldn't want it to be that simple!... but having said that, this new lead is reversable, it goes in either way and works. That's what I read at least. Clarification: the little plug goes in either way up, that is a simplification. R! - Original Message - From: Marco Migotti n...@migotti.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:32 PM Subject: RE: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Why doesn't apple just use the industry standard micro USB connector as this is available commercially from any electronics seller and this would make it easier for people to buy a replacement cable if they so wished. Marco -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: September-13-12 11:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.) Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable hardware space. Supposedly it'll be apple's standard connection for many years to come according to them. By that logic, I can't fault them for making the change -- they would've had to do it sooner or later. What irritates me more is that the adaptors are $35 each -- at least in Canada. Personally, I think they're ridiculously over-priced and Apple isn't allowing any 3rd party vendors to create adaptors of their own for the time being, if ever. On one hand, it's smart because it creates an added revenue stream for Apple but on the other hand, I find it kind of sleazy. No one was really asking for the change or a thinner device so why do we have to pay to retro-fit things? As far as I know, no adaptor comes included with the phone, which would've been nice. Perhaps it could've been absorbed into the cost of the phone but oh well -- looks like that's not going to happen. -Marc On 9/13/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello List, I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5 changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iPhone 5. Cables you can use if you buy an adapter, but I don't think this would work well for sticking your iPhone onto a dock. I think especially for some who have purchased expensive players like a Bose Soundlink or similar this improvement is not so cool. I would consider it an improvement though simply because I get the feeling the much smaller connector will be more stirdy and one very nice feature is the fact that it's reverseable which means it doesn' matter which way around you stick it in, it fits either way. Second, the iPhone 5 now has its headphone jack at the bottom where the dock connector is. Apple did not mention this specifically, but apparently Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast did confirm this. Third, a new iOS 6 camera feature (at least for the iPhone 5 and 4S) allows you to take a photo while you are recording video. Maybe not so much a feature many of us would use, but I think it's a nice feature as there might be a scene you want to capture as a photo while you are recording a video, now you can without stopping your video recording. Lastly, I found it interesting that Apple did not mention the Podcast app and none of the comments I read where people were naming apps visible on the home screen during the event mentioned it either. I also just looked on the apple.com website under iPhone and Built In Apps and Podcasts was not mentioned unless I missed it. I have the feeling that this may not even be part of the initial iOS 6 release since Apple's Podcast app has shall we say received less than favourable reviews and ratings. Maybe they will work on it some more and get it right before they force it down everybody's throat. Best regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received
Re: i5 Underwhelming
Mark, What do you mean by The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation How is manipulating playlists a lack of innovation? Since iTunes is really a small part of the whole picture I'm not sure how it makes any real difference. Clearly there is only so much room to innovate currently in the hardware but certainly the innovation will be in the software. True innovation in hardware will come when someone manages to get 24 hours runtime (surfing, streaming, and such) on their phone. Now that is going to be innovative. :) On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:05 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Joe, I totally and completely agree with you. While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users. The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation than anything. I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it’s because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but then, maybe it’s because there is only one annual update that the iPhone should make more of a splash. Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, if you’re sitting on the 4S, my consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered. Let’s hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more in line with the cool factor it once enjoyed. Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: i5 Underwhelming
That might be true for Windows users, but I suspect that has considerably more to do with the Screen reader developer. For Mac users it is very unlikely to be any issues with accessibility. On Sep 14, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if the new iTunes will be accessible, we always seem to be lagging a bit on that front. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming Hello Joe, I totally and completely agree with you. While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users. The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation than anything. I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it’s because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but then, maybe it’s because there is only one annual update that the iPhone should make more of a splash. Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, if you’re sitting on the 4S, my consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered. Let’s hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more in line with the cool factor it once enjoyed. Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: i5 Underwhelming
Ah, well I have not watched the keynote, so now I understand the context of your comments. Well hey I imagine someone will find those new fangled iTunes features quite interesting. I however like iTunes just fine for what it does and what it does for me is working great. I really see the iPhone 5 as sort of an evolution to the next thing because now they have LTE which was really a game changer for a lot of folks. Really what I hope is that companies will start to really focus in on performance and battery life. I think these things will be what sets devices apart from each other. Well ok if you make one that can survive being run over by a crate train might impress me a little. :) On Sep 14, 2012, at 8:09 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Scott, I agree with you that a new feature in iTunes and the lack of iPhone innovation have little if anything to do with each other. When posting my original reply to the list, I was thinking about how much time the speaker, during the keynote presentation, spent demonstrating the new next up feature that will be in the next major release of iTunes. In a nut shell, there are those that will applaud whatever Apple does regardless of how much or how little. I am not one of them. I think it's great that the new iPhone will be faster but the same can be said of all of its predecessors, as well, at the time of their release. Given that they only release one new version of the device per year, I suppose I was hoping for something new and tantalizing such as was the case with the iPhone 4 S with Siri. Getting back to iTunes, I think it's getting a little late in the day for Apple to act as though adding a feature to playlists is that big of a deal. Of course, this is just my opinion but I stand by it. The market has matured and, as far as media managers are concerned, iTunes is sorely lacking, at worst, and is average, at best. Admittedly, I am not taking into account, accessibility which, for blind and low vision users, is truly a game changer. As I stated, I will purchase an iPhone 5 next week but I will do so because I am a fan of Apple and I love having the latest and greatest but not because of any must-have features. Accessibility notwithstanding, while Apple may have reinvented the proverbial Smartphone wheel, they no longer own the road upon which it travels. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming Mark, What do you mean by The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation How is manipulating playlists a lack of innovation? Since iTunes is really a small part of the whole picture I'm not sure how it makes any real difference. Clearly there is only so much room to innovate currently in the hardware but certainly the innovation will be in the software. True innovation in hardware will come when someone manages to get 24 hours runtime (surfing, streaming, and such) on their phone. Now that is going to be innovative. :) On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:05 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Joe, I totally and completely agree with you. While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users. The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation than anything. I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: i5 Underwhelming Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it's because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from other manufacturers, but then, maybe it's because there is only one annual update that the iPhone should make more of a splash. Anyway, for whatever it's worth, if you're sitting on the 4S, my consumer advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the subject has already been covered. Let's hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Sieghard, I know headphones are incredibly subjective, but somehow I doubt they will compare to the Bose headphones. I think if APple were to switch over to a silicone tip it would improve the headphones considerably. After using this arrangement with my Bose headphones I cannot imagine ever using anything else. You can say whatever you want about Bose and no not every product they turn out is a winner, but their headphones have thus far been the best that I have used. Of course there is always something better I'm sure. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Re: US ITC judge rules Apple does not violate Samsung patents
You know I wonder when both sides will opt to sit down and end this pissing contest that only helps lawyers get rich. :) I suspect if both sides could come together they could both benefit. ALthough I guess all this squabbling does keep things interesting. On Sep 14, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: I guess Apple is off the hook. Read below. http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/14/us_itc_judge_rules_apple_does_not_violate_samsung_patents -- Raul A. Gallegos The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. - Franklin P. Jones Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?
You know I find the comments about Siri really interesting, but let me stir the pot here and ask how many really care about Siri? I have to admit that I rarely use Siri although I certainly appreciate its capabilities. I actually just started using the dictation feature a bit more and forget to use punctuation, so I have to remind myself. :) So, just curious how many either really do not care one way or the other or used it a lot initially and found themselves not using it so much after a while. On Sep 15, 2012, at 4:34 AM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: I agree. I really do not care if SIRI knows or can look up trivia crap instead of having real functional capabilities related to controling the device itself. Yes thanks for what they have added though. Of course it all depends on getting a response from server side technology that is pushed as such a great idea. Siri should be able to process at least some things on the device itself. That's something else even windows voice commander could do. Jim On 9/15/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, This all sounds pretty good, but a few things I am ondering about are this: I dial a number or tell SIRI to call somebody and the line is busy. Why can't I say after a minute or even 10 minutes: Redial or Redial my last call? This doesn't work now and I have not heard any examples about this. Also, I am very curious whether it is finally going to be possible to enter just a business name in the company field, for example, United Airlines, and then to say Call United Airlines. I do of course imply here that I also enter the correct phone number for uUnited Airlines, but currently you have to also enter the company name as the last name (I guess you could do first name, but I prefer to use last name for sort reasons) in order to make it possible to voice dial with SIRI. I'd also hope you can ask something like Who called me last and after SIRI announces this to say Call back the last person who called me or, in the context of the earlier question simply Call that number or Call them. And since I am in the complaining mood, if Apple gives SIRI the ability to open any app why not include things like turning WiFi, Bluetooth or Airplane Mode on and off by simply telling SIRI to do so and to give me an answer when I say What's the battery level rather than asking me if I want to search the web for What's the battery level. Even my old HTC Windows 6.1 Smartphone with Microsoft Voice Command could do this. OK, I do admit that I do not want my HTC back, but who cares about what's playing in the movie theatre or who directed Toy Story yet I can't ask it the simplest things about my phone. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
In your ears. Apple does not have any over-the-ear headphones to my knowledge. In fact not even sure they ever had such a beast. On Sep 15, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Vicki Meizinger mom.meizin...@gmail.com wrote: on earpods, do they go in your ears or over them? for me it's an important consideration in getting them or not. Vicki Meizinger On 9/15/2012 9:47 AM, Kevin Barry wrote: I believe it is far more power efficient. At 09:23 AM 9/15/2012, you wrote: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. Good Luck To All, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Richard, I have had problems since back when related to the display not reconnecting, loosing WI-FI and so on. I can tell you that it seems to matter little at least for me using a 4S on ATT when who gets turned on when. I do turn the display on first, but I have turned it off and back on while the phone is unlocked and in most cases it will reconnect. I have seen some cases where it never connected despite the sequence. The problem is the problem is not the same for everyone. I've tried to gather as much data as I could to share with Apple, but I have never been abel to gather enough data from folks to really be of any help. Of course anything anyone shares is welcome, but I need pretty specific steps and results. I have been working with APple on/off about this problem for a while and hope iOS 6 will have some of this resolved. If not I'm going to start a campaign. :) I want to use my display as much as possible, but I'm not going to make myself nuts either. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Annie, Which braille display? Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence you turn things off and on. Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the phone, then turn off the display. When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before turning on the display. Then, they should pair up again automatically. I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Richard, Very interesting, but I have the Apple keyboard. You know if the problems persist after iOS 6 rolls out, I'd like to get a lot of info from you. :) Brand of keyboard, Braille display, and so forth. GOing to get this issue resolved one way or the other. THanks, On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, I've had pretty consistent problems with my blue tooth qwerty keyboard and Wi-Fi getting messed up after I've used it for a while. I have not noticed the same with the braille display. I will continue to track that and see what I can come up with. After iOS 6 comes out, I will be using braille more. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Richard, I have had problems since back when related to the display not reconnecting, loosing WI-FI and so on. I can tell you that it seems to matter little at least for me using a 4S on ATT when who gets turned on when. I do turn the display on first, but I have turned it off and back on while the phone is unlocked and in most cases it will reconnect. I have seen some cases where it never connected despite the sequence. The problem is the problem is not the same for everyone. I've tried to gather as much data as I could to share with Apple, but I have never been abel to gather enough data from folks to really be of any help. Of course anything anyone shares is welcome, but I need pretty specific steps and results. I have been working with APple on/off about this problem for a while and hope iOS 6 will have some of this resolved. If not I'm going to start a campaign. :) I want to use my display as much as possible, but I'm not going to make myself nuts either. :) On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Annie, Which braille display? Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence you turn things off and on. Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the phone, then turn off the display. When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before turning on the display. Then, they should pair up again automatically. I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Annie, THanks for this info and I will file this as a part of my data gathering. If I learn anything I will let you know On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scot. The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but people won't not discuss that problem. Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try that, and come back to you. I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems at all. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com: Hi Annie, Which braille display? Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence you turn things off and on. Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the phone, then turn off the display. When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before turning on the display. Then, they should pair up again automatically. I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just consider Firewire and Thunderbolt not to mention Micro SIM and now Nano SIM. In any case, I personally think Micro USB is a big pain in the neck, I know a lot of sighted people who even have to look twice before they have the thing facing the right way and I think having a small reverseable connector is just fine. Given the popularity of Apple devices and the huge offering of cables, docks etc. whatever they do is almost a standard by itself and if it's simpler and maybe more durable than a micro USB connector then why not. After all, if you want micro USB just get an adapter. I heard that there is maybe even in in-version change for the new iPad and that it will have the new small connector. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
The Refreshabraille is made by Baum. On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Vario and Super Vario are not the same as RefreshaBraille. They are the same as HumanWare,. HumanWare and Hims appear to be the companies that are consistently having the most problems with their braille displays and Apple products. Both Hims and HumanWare are running their displays from Windows CE V6.x, an OS platform that is now three years out of date and no longer being supported by Microsoft. In other words, out of date platforms are being used to try and support more up-to-date bluetooth driver stacks - a recipe for eventual complications; especially when one considers the fact that this OS was initially used for its built-in driver stacks. The problem for Hims and HumanWare is that MS does not allow any accessibility hook / plug-ins for Windows Mobile platforms after Windows CE V6.x. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 16/09/2012, at 10:03, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scot. The display I have problems with is my great brailiant 32 cells. Sometimes it suddenly loses conection, and it can be a little difficult to get it connected again. I have tried writing about it on some lists before, but people won't not discuss that problem. Do you mean, that I should try to turn of mobile data or wifi. I will try that, and come back to you. I know that the refresha braille displays also have some problems, because some people here in Denmark are using them too under the name vario and super vario. The strange thing is that a focus display does not make any problems at all. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 7:47 PM skrev Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com: Hi Annie, Which braille display? Most of them, and I've tried several, you have to be sure of the sequence you turn things off and on. Once you have the display paired, before you turn off the display, lock the phone, then turn off the display. When you want to use them again, unlock the phone before turning on the display. In some cases, you may want to wait 10 or 15 seconds before turning on the display. Then, they should pair up again automatically. I had heard that early on with Verizon and the Braille pen, there were problems, but I thought that had been fixed by iOS 5.1.1. HTH, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi Sieghard. The only reason I am asking, is that I have some problems with a braille display, that loses connection to the phone, it is not really to say, if the phone has the problem or the braille display. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 3:23 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: Hi Annie, The iPhone 4S already had Bluetooth 4.0 which you really don't find devices for yet, Apple is way ahead on this. I actually don't know what, for example, a Bluetooth 4.0 headset or speaker would have that a Bluetooth 2.1 model doesn't have, but even the new Big Jambox which was only recently released has only Bluetooth 2.1 so either it's not a big deal for something like a speaker or device manufacturers maybe can't make a Bluetooth 4.0 device yet which has really good battery life or something like that. I am really hoping at some point that there would be a good Bluetooth headset which does not have the same tiny delay you seem to get with all Bluetooth devices and which I find extremely annoying and enough of a reason to stick to wired headsets. I actually just ordered the new ear pods which get very good reviews, the few I read all agree that they are a huge improvement over the original headset, one guy said they are every bit as good as his $130 Bose headset, another person said they are extremely comfortable and have very good sound quality etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much Hi. Is there anything about bluetooth, is there any improvements for bluetooth. Best regards Annie. Den Sep 15, 2012 kl. 2:45 PM skrev Kevin Barry krba...@gmail.com: Also, the new iPhone supports wifi on the 5 ghz band. Finally! At 11:55 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote: Apple provides a Micro USB adapter in Europe which they have to do by law, so it's not quite the same as backing USB. Of course Apple isn't exactly known to support industry standards, just
Re: iPhone 5
I am glad to hear that because I had joined quite a while ago and within 30 days left because I could tell I was not going to have much luck with them. Well one thing carriers had better learn is billing and customer service are as important if not a little more so than any other service they offer. If people feel like their being jerked around and treated unfairly they will make some concessions to switch. On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven't had billing issues with sprint in about 7 years. They really cleaned up a lot of that stuff, and focused on customer service the last 5 years or so. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:52 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with that statement. I had ATT for a couple of years and wasn't impressed. Also have seen to many billing issues with Sprint. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Vece Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Hi Jessica; You can't go wrong with Verizon. That's a wise move. Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 15, 2012, at 6:30 PM, Jessica Diaz jldiaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I will be upgrading from a 4s to a 5. Am switching companies to get on VZ with my husband. He is eligible so he might be moving from the Haven to a 5 as well. Jessica Diaz -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kolby Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone 5 Hello Rich, I will be upgrading to the iPhone 5. I currently have the iPhone 4. The faster processor, siri, microphones, LTE connectivity, and better battery life are my reasons for upgrading. I will be trading in my iPhone 4 via the Verizon Wireless trade-in program. kolby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. Good Luck To All, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: video conversions
Look at HandBrake, http://www.handbrake.fr. This is an excellent piece of software and should meet your needs nicely. On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't found a way to do this yet. I have a lot of family videos converted from VHS to DVD. I'd like to be able to copy the dvd onto my hard drive and name it appropriately so I could easily find the video using Apple TV with voice over. Currently when I make a video using my iPhone, I can copy the video to my hard drive, name it, and find it and show it using voice over on the Apple TV with home sharing on and using Itunes. This is great. The iphone files are numbered until I give them an identifiable title. Then I bring them up through Itunes using voice over on the Apple TV. How can I convert these older videos so I can use them the same as my existing video library? Thanks for any suggestions. BTW, I am still using Windows XP. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
David, Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think I'm going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make an at @ symbol etc. I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year ago or so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good while ago. :) I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :) On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note taker. I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver stacks and controls in the HumanWare products. I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone. That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation. National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille. For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during meetings with speech muted. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote: Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal. I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help. You know, useful help. *GRIN* I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves. That's not really what I need. I need something more along the lines of being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through braille while in a meeting. Does that eliminate any of these devices? I'd also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on. Does such a thing even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille display's software? Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: 1password, which one?
Don, You may not necessarily need the Pro version today, but honestly for not much more money I'd suggest you get the Pro. You never know in the future if you may decide to get an iPad. Just my suggestion. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:48 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote: I see there are two versions of 1password, the regular one and the pro one. The pro will interface with ipad etc., and also the iphone. I have only the iphone, and wondering if anyone knows of any features for the iphone that are in the pro version and not in the cheaper one. Don't need to pay for interfaces I won't use if the actual content is the same. Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Grant, I do; however, ATT also plans to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping ATT will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some of the nonsense of ATT (yes many carriers engage in the same behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that really bother me. I had an ATT customer service employee tell me that APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply false and for anyone at ATT to say this is lying. Apple has nothing to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. Good Luck To All, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Grant, at least it is 5 as opposed to 3 with 3G. ALthough this seems unfair since LTE has more to do with speed. Interestingly it should still be the same amount of data since as far as I know you do not pay more for LTE over 3G. THanks, Scott On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I did some Googling and came across another article that states that the throttling on LTE is done at 5 GB. So it seems that they still do throttle - sorry for the confusion. :-( Grant On 9/16/12, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device, and place it in the new device to insure that nothing funky happens with my data plan. Good Luck To All, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You
Re: iOS 6 - 40 features you will care about, was: IOS 6 and Voice Over
So you got this as a developer? On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using IOS6 since thursday, and I am loving some of the new features. For example. Instead of opening up a message in mail, or going to the edit button at the top, you can just flick down and the delete button is right there. Also, those of you who like using multiple email accounts, can use multiple signitures with them now. It also has a VIP mailbox, for those important people's mail you do not want to miss. iMessage is snappier, and there is also a do not disturb feature you can set for when you don't want your phone to ring, unless they are in your favorites list. Jailbreaking had already provided me with this feature, but apple took it one step further. Blue tooth, is now right after wi fi, so you don't have to dig for it. I love the passbook app, and the turn by turn directions that the map gives you, you can even enable speach at certain volumes. That's all for now, just a little taste for you before wednsday. Kliphton Senior (TwitterSkype) kliphton72 (iMessagefacetime) kliph...@me.com (Life Journal) Kliphton.wordpress.com (Sharrie’s ScratchPad) missie844.wordpress.com http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello Avnish and others, I haven't spend too much time on Google, but a quick search about iOS 6 accessibility did produce quite a few hits, here is one I read. Many of the 40 features we already heard about, but it's a nice comprehensive list and while the author doesn't go into details, he does mention Voiceover improvements as well as other accessibility improvements. I believe Kimber recently asked about how she can make the alarm play a particular song, well, item 35 in the list indicates that this will be an iOS 6 feature. I also hope all you who preordered the iPhone 5 have not neglected to place orders for your favourite BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar or Land Rover to take advantage of Siri in-car integration, after all, you may have to wait quite long to get just the colour you want! I'm just ticked off that this won't work with my vintage Rolls Royce Silver Dawn *smile*. Anyhow, here is the link to the article and below the actual list for those who want just the basics: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/11/40-ios-6-features-youll-actually-car e-about There are over 200 new features in iOS 6, but you won’t care about every change Apple made. Apple highlights the top iOS 6 features, but there are many more iOS 6 features that Apple silently announced. These “hidden” iOS 6 features are features you’ll actually use and care about. Check out the 40 iOS 6 Features You’ll Actually Use: 1. FaceTime over 3G and 4G – Make FaceTime calls over cellular connections. 2. Facebook Integration – Share photos to Facebook from Photos app and Like Apps. 3. Maps- New maps with traffic and 3D flyover mode. 4. Calls – Slide to answer a call or slide up to reply with a message remind you to call back later. 5. Passbook – Your digital wallet for loyalty cards, Amtrak, United, hotel reservations and more. 6. Lost Mode – Send a phone number to whoever found your lost iPhone to get a call. 7. Turn by Turn Directions – Voiceguided turn by turn directions with GPS on the iPhone 4S. 8. Open Apps with Siri – Siri can now open apps with your voice. 9. VIP Inbox – Tell Mail who your important contacts are so you never miss an email. 10. Siri - Check sports scores, movie times and make restaurant reservations. 11. Instant Sharing to Facebook and Twitter – Notification Center lets you share direct to Facebook and Twitter. 12. Better Sharing Menu – When Sharing, you’ll see a new icon driven sharing menu. 13. Autocorrection for Every Keyboard – Support for autocorrect while using external Bluetooth keyboards. 14. Location Based Reminders for iPad – The iPad will now support reminders based on location, may be limited to cellular models. 15. Manual Location Entry for Reminders – No longer need GPS to set a location reminder, type in an address. 16. VoiceOver Improvements – Better accessibility features from VoiceOver for visually impaired users. 17. Personal Dictionary in the Cloud – sync personalized spellings and autocorrections of names across iPhone and iPad. 18. Do Not Disturb - Set the iPhone to prevent calls and notifications from waking you at night, but still allow special callers. 19. Per Account Signatures in Mail – One signature for work email, one for personal. 20. Game Center Challenges – Brag about your high score and issue challenges to friends. 21. Game Center Friends from Facebook – Pull your Facebook friends into games. 22. Manual Reorder of Reminders – Change the order of reminders to match your priorities. 23. Improved Privacy Controls – More granular control over your personal data. Turn location control
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
Was not at all legit and if anyone downloaded this supposed GM copy, there may be functionality broken or other issues. On Sep 16, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: I think there was a posting on Lifehacker or Gizmodo last week outlining how you could already grab iOS 6 instead of having to wait till the 19th. I believe it had to do with visiting a website and downloading this or that file and syncing, etc. I can't recall if they stated whether or not it was a legitimate means of upgrading or not since I didn't bother reading it all the way through since I'm happy to wait the few extra days, but just pointing it out in case there are any feathers to be ruffled with the NDA and whatnot. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On 9/16/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: braille reference, was Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
Richard, Now that is a pretty handy app and for a $1 I would get a lot of good information for so little. :) I might just have to grab that. :) THanks Scott On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, Amy and others, If you want a quick, easy way to look up braille codes you can't remember, there is an app, made by someone I know, called Braille Reference, and is $0.99 in the app store. Under the computer braille section, if you select to search by name, it will show you an alphabetical list of contractions. The At sign is the fourth one in the list. He says dots 7 and 4, which is correct. However, you can get this if you are using contracted braille by doing space bar plus u for upper case and then just a dot 4. He plans an update with visual images for the braille cells in the near future and there are a couple of search things he needs to clean up, but it is a handy tool for a lot of my braille students. HTH, Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone David, Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think I'm going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make an at @ symbol etc. I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year ago or so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good while ago. :) I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :) On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note taker. I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver stacks and controls in the HumanWare products. I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone. That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next to the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation. National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write computer braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille. For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille during meetings with speech muted. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris aharr...@gmail.com wrote: Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal. I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help. You know, useful help. *GRIN* I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves. That's not really what I need. I need something more along the lines of being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through braille while in a meeting. Does that eliminate any of these devices? I'd also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on. Does such a thing even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille display's software? Amy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
And I can confirm the fact that APple can make backend changes without releasing a new app. THis is also true with iTunes and the Mac App store (obviously for the Mac). I have seen issues in the app that was corrected without a new version being downloaded which leads me to believe there is some html code that can be changed. So, I suspect these types of fixes are much easier than if it required changes to the code of the app. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Jonnathon and all, I'm not sure who follows appleVis and reads the comments, but as I stated there, the changes to any stores are dynamic, meaning apple can make changes to them without having to release a completely new build of iOS. So if any changes are going to be made, we'll see them without having to download another version of the OS. Also, the stores aren't supposed to be rolled out completely until the 19th, so it's quite possible they're going to make a change within the next few days before the release goes public. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Yup, I can confirm this. I tend to do very specific searches so hadn't seen the full implications of this before. So I apologise for my previous post which didn't really convey the enormity of this. Updating apps work as I described, but this is very serious. Let's hope something can be done without actually updating the OS. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Head Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 2:16 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6 Hi all, Not sure if anyone else put this up but I saw someone put it up on twitter. Originally found on the applevis website, it's an article explaining that a few days before ios 6 is released, the app store is inaccessible in most areas. Article below: A Warning to VoiceOver Users Ahead of the Release of iOS 6 article region start Submitted by David on 16 September 2012 Member of the AppleVis Editorial Team As you should be aware, our stated policy is to allow no postings on this site which would be a breach of Apple's Non Disclosure Agreement. Essentially, this Agreement places legal restrictions on what can be publicly revealed about beta versions of Apple software. Posting specific and detailed information about iOS 6 before it is released to the public on 19 September would in most cases be a breach of this Agreement, and could place you at risk of legal action by Apple. However, we have been alerted to a significant accessibility issue that is likely to be present in iOS 6, and we believe that with the public release just a few days away, we would be failing the community if we did not issue a warning. There are likely to be some who will condemn our decision. All that we can say is that it is not something we have done lightly and without much discussion. Here is the problem as we understand it: At the time of writing, the App Store app is virtually unusable with VoiceOver on the version of iOS 6 that was released to developers last week. This release is commonly referred to as the Gold Master, and is effectively the final version. This problem has been reported and replicated by several iPhone users. We are unable to confirm whether the same problem exists on the iPad. The App Store app has been significantly rewritten for iOS 6, with changes made to the way that content is displayed and navigated. There are 5 tabs in the app: Featured Top Charts Genius Search Updates Of these, only the Updates tab appears to be fully accessible with VoiceOver. Results on the Search tab are no longer displayed as a vertical list. Instead, each app is displayed on its own page. When not using VoiceOver, you flick to the left or right to navigate through the search results. This allows for more information about each app to be shown. We assume that it is also considered to be more visually appealing and engaging. When using VoiceOver, only the first search result is easily accessible. If you swipe right through the first search result, VoiceOver will read subsequent results in much the same way that it always has. However, visually, the screen is still displaying the first result, and double-tapping on the name of subsequent apps will achieve nothing. Each page in the search results indicates what page it is - 1 of 250 for example. However, this is only recognized by VoiceOver on the first page if you tap directly on it or swipe left from the bottom bar of tab buttons. Although this element might seem similar to the one present on your
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software things get broken and hopefully fixed. I think a lot of the issues we all have experienced from time to time and still do in some cases is not being ignored. When you consider the size and scope of a project such as iOS itself, you can imagine the number of people working on such a project. Add to that the layers of management and development protocols etc… I'm not surprised that it takes a while to address problems. On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochelea...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I sincerely hope that app developers who use VoiceOver have been reporting these problems to Apple's accessibility team. This is -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless
Interesting because I was told differently by two other reps. So, I guess we will not know until iOS 6 is out and folks try it. I think that is one way to really answer such questions since the reps are obviously not informed, which for the record may not even be their fault. Lots of info to communicate and not all organizations are always efficient in getting the word to the right people. On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:56 AM, blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: That is strange since I talked to two different att customer service reps and was told by both of them that there would be no restrictions or extra charges using face time over 3g as long as your data plan covered the usage. I called back twice just to make sure I got the same story before preordering the new IPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why I No Longer Preorder iPhone From A T T Wireless Grant, I do; however, ATT also plans to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from even using the Face TIme service over 3G. In fact I guess anyone without a shared data plan will be prevented from using Face TIme. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not plan to do this and I'm hoping ATT will back down as well. As aggravated as I have been of late with some of the nonsense of ATT (yes many carriers engage in the same behavior) it just seems that there has been some things going on that really bother me. I had an ATT customer service employee tell me that APple dictates how soon people can upgrade and when. That is simply false and for anyone at ATT to say this is lying. Apple has nothing to do with the upgrades and would love for you to buy another phone. So, yeah I am a little sensitive about what they are up to. On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. You should definitely take my question with a grain of sault. I'm not an ATT customer, in fact I live in Canada. This was just something I came across on the internet and was curious to find out whether it's true. Cheers, Grant On 9/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I do not know the answer; however, I would be completely irate if I found that they did not throttle LTE customers. In fact I'm going to check into this and ATT had better hope they throttle LTE customers as they would those of us on 3G. If not I suggest all clear the decks. On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I heard that on LTE, ATT doesn't throttle their unlimited customers in the same way. Do you know if that's true or am I mistaken? Cheers, Grant On 9/15/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I upgraded to the 4S last year and still retained my unlimited data plan. However, unlimited is really a joke because the fact is once you exceed 3Gb, ATT throttles your speed to the point that it is completely unreasonable. Although not technically a breech of contract, it does open the doors to arbitration and a good chance you can be freed from the contract. If ATT pulls the crap about not allowing FaceTime over the 3G network unless you have a shared data plan, I will be on the horn to the FCC and raise hell. In fact I'm still surprised they are able to prevent those of us with unlimited data plans from having tethering. As I understand Verizon Wireless got pinged for this not long ago. On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, Once upon a time, I believed in preordering from A T T Wireless. In fact, I preordered my iPhone 4. However, last year, at the release of iPhone 4 S, I began the A T T Wireless online preorder process and, thank God, decided to cancel the order before its completion. I don't remember the particulars but something in the agreement that one needed to confirm by placing a checkmark in a box, didn't sound quite right. As it turned out, my refusal to agree to their terms during the online preorder process was a wise decision. Like many of us who continue to enjoy the unlimited data plan that A T T Wireless no longer offers, agreeing to last year's online iPhone 4 S preorder terms automatically updated the data plan to one that did not include unlimited data. Now I cannot speak to preordering from Apple as I have never done so but I can tell you that A T T Wireless would love to remove all of those remaining on the unlimited data plan and will do darn near anything to accomplish this including lacing there agreement with so much legalese that one will simply agree without reading it. In short, when I purchase my iPhone 5, just like last year, I will go into an A T T Wireless corporate store, remove my own SIM card from my current device
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
You know I've not been much a fan of Chrome or the ChromVox, but you know I understand it is still early in its development. WHat I am pleased by is the fact that GOogle also is investing in accessibility and I hope other companies will see the benefits and jump on the wagon as well. Do I want to see vendors such as FS or GW Micro go out of business? No, but at the same time if that were to happen it means that finally accessibility has reached a mainstream status and that can be a good (as well as a bad ) thing. All this means is if you looked back just five or so years ago, who ever thought we would have access to these touch-screen devices to the level we do today. Actually when you consider the entire 20 plus years of screen reading technology and look just in the last five or six years at what has been accomplished, well it is pretty amazing. On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Just two other points here. Accessibility like any other project may have it's priority rise and fall as other projects priorities change or as Apple perceives it's lead in the accessibility area growing or shrinking. this is no different than any other project. I agree that Apple has done a lot as a main stream company with respect to accessibility, but I'm not positive that their investment is light years ahead of other main stream companies. I know for example, Google has quite a bit invested in accessibility right now between ChromeVox, Android and their on line services, such as Google Docs. IBM also came out with their own screen reader for OS/2, which I know is ancient history, but their investment to accessibility has continued with contributions to FireFox and the accessibility of products such as Lotus Notes, Sametime and Symphony. I also don't see Apple changing on a dime just because Steve Jobs is no longer with them. Who knows how this will effect Apple in the long run, but I'm sure he delegated some things before his death, and I'm sure there are others at Apple who shared and understood his vision. On 17/09/12 09:36, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has to balance accessibility against all the other projects that are ongoing. There are resources dedicated to many projects and some projects get more resources than others. Fact is accessibility may not get the same level of resources as other projects; however, you have to understand it is always a challenge trying to be sure resources are managed in such a way to ensure overall mission/goals/objectives are addressed without impacting the largest user community. I may not be explaining that as well as I could, but the idea is you put the resources on whatever will maximize profits and make no mistake that Apple is about making money. Oh and I'm all for Apple making money and buckets of it. MOre money means more resources and more resources means more likelihood accessibility gets attention. 5. Apple is the only mainstream company to my knowledge that has invested so heavily into accessibility. 6. A lot of developers have committed to making their apps accessible, so accessibility has really gained such a considerable amount of attention that there is support beyond even this community. You can bet if Apple ever decided to drop accessibility, we would have a good deal of support. I'm not lecturing you here Marc, but merely pointing out (because this comes up on the list from time to time) that APple has committed to accessibility and like any other aspect of software
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
Yes and that is why APple is so innovative. I have always felt that there would be a way for blind people to use a touch interface and Apple made it happen in a much more meaningful way than Code Factory did with their approach. I'm not saying CF was wrong in their approach necessarily, but it certainly did not provide the type of meaningful interface that would bring the level of productivity that iOS has. Of course this is just my opinion. :) On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:01 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: The fact is, before apple came out with their revolutionary touch-based screen reader, it was not believed blind people could work with touch screens in such a way. The closest thing was Mobile Speak who turned the touch-screen in to 4 large buttons, and created an invisible talking keyboard that covered the entire display. The professional research questions were all focused around how to ad tactile feedback in a way that would be meaningful to blind people. The basic premise has been that blind people could not effectively adapt to an ever-changing visual interface. As I read through the professional research and literature, this theme remains constant. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 3:28, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: You know I've not been much a fan of Chrome or the ChromVox, but you know I understand it is still early in its development. WHat I am pleased by is the fact that GOogle also is investing in accessibility and I hope other companies will see the benefits and jump on the wagon as well. Do I want to see vendors such as FS or GW Micro go out of business? No, but at the same time if that were to happen it means that finally accessibility has reached a mainstream status and that can be a good (as well as a bad ) thing. All this means is if you looked back just five or so years ago, who ever thought we would have access to these touch-screen devices to the level we do today. Actually when you consider the entire 20 plus years of screen reading technology and look just in the last five or six years at what has been accomplished, well it is pretty amazing. On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Just two other points here. Accessibility like any other project may have it's priority rise and fall as other projects priorities change or as Apple perceives it's lead in the accessibility area growing or shrinking. this is no different than any other project. I agree that Apple has done a lot as a main stream company with respect to accessibility, but I'm not positive that their investment is light years ahead of other main stream companies. I know for example, Google has quite a bit invested in accessibility right now between ChromeVox, Android and their on line services, such as Google Docs. IBM also came out with their own screen reader for OS/2, which I know is ancient history, but their investment to accessibility has continued with contributions to FireFox and the accessibility of products such as Lotus Notes, Sametime and Symphony. I also don't see Apple changing on a dime just because Steve Jobs is no longer with them. Who knows how this will effect Apple in the long run, but I'm sure he delegated some things before his death, and I'm sure there are others at Apple who shared and understood his vision. On 17/09/12 09:36, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs, and so forth I think it is important to point out: 1. Steve Jobs, although a great man, was not the exclusive determining factor for Voiceover in Apple's products. 2. Just because Steve has passed on does not mean Apple will abandon accessibility. 3. There has been articles posted by the U.S. Department of Treasury (a year or two ago) that indicates there are over 100,000 blind/visually impaired users of iPhones. Note iPhones and the article did not mention iPads etc. 4. Apple has
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
I've not had any problem with the pinch gesture. I believe it takes patience and practice. This is something that even I practice now and then to be sure I can still pull it off. :) I cannot think of a better way really to pull this off, but again it is very doable. On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:21 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sieghard, I am quite happy with iOS 5.1.1 and 4S. However I would have loved to see an easier way to select text! Somehow the pinch gesture never works! Space Thanks Andy look forward to the 19th! Good night! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6
I don't feel that is relevant and no I do not take anything from CF as far as what they accomplished. I do not believe though that Apple took anything from what CF learned. On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: But you will agree or some of you will, Code Factory did start the possibility of touch screen and may be Apple did learn something from them don't some of you think? On 17 Sep 2012, at 22:09, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes and that is why APple is so innovative. I have always felt that there would be a way for blind people to use a touch interface and Apple made it happen in a much more meaningful way than Code Factory did with their approach. I'm not saying CF was wrong in their approach necessarily, but it certainly did not provide the type of meaningful interface that would bring the level of productivity that iOS has. Of course this is just my opinion. :) On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:01 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: The fact is, before apple came out with their revolutionary touch-based screen reader, it was not believed blind people could work with touch screens in such a way. The closest thing was Mobile Speak who turned the touch-screen in to 4 large buttons, and created an invisible talking keyboard that covered the entire display. The professional research questions were all focused around how to ad tactile feedback in a way that would be meaningful to blind people. The basic premise has been that blind people could not effectively adapt to an ever-changing visual interface. As I read through the professional research and literature, this theme remains constant. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 3:28, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: You know I've not been much a fan of Chrome or the ChromVox, but you know I understand it is still early in its development. WHat I am pleased by is the fact that GOogle also is investing in accessibility and I hope other companies will see the benefits and jump on the wagon as well. Do I want to see vendors such as FS or GW Micro go out of business? No, but at the same time if that were to happen it means that finally accessibility has reached a mainstream status and that can be a good (as well as a bad ) thing. All this means is if you looked back just five or so years ago, who ever thought we would have access to these touch-screen devices to the level we do today. Actually when you consider the entire 20 plus years of screen reading technology and look just in the last five or six years at what has been accomplished, well it is pretty amazing. On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Just two other points here. Accessibility like any other project may have it's priority rise and fall as other projects priorities change or as Apple perceives it's lead in the accessibility area growing or shrinking. this is no different than any other project. I agree that Apple has done a lot as a main stream company with respect to accessibility, but I'm not positive that their investment is light years ahead of other main stream companies. I know for example, Google has quite a bit invested in accessibility right now between ChromeVox, Android and their on line services, such as Google Docs. IBM also came out with their own screen reader for OS/2, which I know is ancient history, but their investment to accessibility has continued with contributions to FireFox and the accessibility of products such as Lotus Notes, Sametime and Symphony. I also don't see Apple changing on a dime just because Steve Jobs is no longer with them. Who knows how this will effect Apple in the long run, but I'm sure he delegated some things before his death, and I'm sure there are others at Apple who shared and understood his vision. On 17/09/12 09:36, Marc Rocheleau wrote: Hey Scott, I totally understand what you mean. Like I said, I'm trying not to jump the gun or anything -- it's more a paranoia of mine than a valid fear. I fully acknowledge that Apple has too much money to lose if they drop accessibility from their products, especially with the communities that have been created online (such as this one) because of it. I think it's more a case of it feeling too good to be true still. No other mainstream companies provide this level of support for the blind/visually-impaired, imo, and sometimes it feels like the other shoe should be dropping at any second. I know Apple does it for money but I don't really care as long as I am getting value for my money. There's a reason I'm switching to an iMac in the coming months, after all. :) -Marc On 9/17/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, Before folks go running off on a tangent about accessibility, Steve Jobs
Re: Apple's commitment to accessibility [was Re: a warning to voice over users concerning IOS 6]
Theresa, I'm not sure what you mean by the capitalist economy since all economies are capitalist in nature. In fact I'd argue that without capitalism Apple would not have any incentive to consider accessibility. I'm not sure where charities fit into this conversation either. The fact is APple chose to make accessibility a core component of their business model because APple decided at some point that everyone should have equal access. Regardless of how small a market segment the disable population is, Apple has made the commitment and will continue to do so. Just as app developers have responded in most cases very favorably to making their apps accessible. I suspect it is not just because it is the right thing to do, but because there is a segment of the market that could be tapped for sales. Capitalism really is a good thing because it gives people the incentive to strive for your money. :) On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the spatial plcement, and I'm getting much more comfortable with it. As for Apple's accessibility commitment, I think it's fantastic, but in a capitalist economy, it can only go so far, unless charities step in and help, or unless Apfle had various foundations for the purpose. I reY wouldn't have guessed this level of accessibility would exist a few years back, and frankly, this is why I buy Apple products. I support this commitment with my wallet. :) Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts. On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote: David, True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the Macs. On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal access for their bottom line. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6
There is no reason updating cannot be done over the air. There is no difference because this is a major update, so regardless of a patch or not, folks will be able to upgrade over the air. If that were not the case for some reason I am quite certain APple would have stated something about this. Everyone has come to expect OTA updates, so it would take a lot of change management to get folks to use iTunes just for this update. So, update away over the air. On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: I don't know either way, but this is of course the first time there's been a major version change since over the air updating was introduced. The over the air updates we've had have effectively been OS patches to 5. But this is a new version, so there's at least a possibility you may not be able to update over the air. Jonathan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012 11:38 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Hi, Since IOS 5.0, all updates are able to be installed wirelessly. I don't see why IOS 6 would be any different. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Corey Michael Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to add that Rob from the Today in iOS podcast suggests making sure all of your apps are closed out before upgrading. Does anyone know if we will be able to do this update over wifi or if it must be done in iTunes? Corey Cook Facebook: corey.coo...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Shawn, As far as I know, ITunes 10.7 for pc came out last Thursday. Cheers Alex From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: 18 September 2012 22:01 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What to do before upgrading to iOS 6 Hi Mark and Hank. If you're talking about Itunes 10.7 which has support for IOS 6 and the new I devices, that update got pushed to us Mac users last week. Also, I do believe there is a PC version of it, because my friend downloaded it for her PC when I told her about the update. Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book On 2012-09-18, at 12:34 PM, viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send
Re: i5 Underwhelming
Joe, Ane the counter to what you say is simply this. WHile others supposedly leap ahead with some of these apparent advancements, Apple will remain reliable and consistent. I believe it is less important to put in features such as facial recognition and other such gimmicks if the underlying OS is not secure and robust. I think part of Apple's draw is the fact changes are made with care and to maintain some level of consistency. People despite their desire for the newest wiz bang features like consistency. If someone came along and radically changed the interface of your device, you may not really appreciate shaving to remember where everything is. Although just an example, I am sure you can understand the point. 1. Your first comment was regarding facial recognition as a security feature. Well to be honest who really cares. If you consider why people steal mobile devices I can tell you that it is rarely for the information contained on the device. Most thefts occur so the thief can make a few bucks. THe only real security is if the device self-destructs in the thief's hand. :) 2. Social integration is most likely going to be based on the most popular services which for now is Facebook and Twitter. There are lots of services out there of course, but most are not nearly used to the degree of these two services. 3. With regard to maps offline viewing might be nice, but if you consider that Apple would have to either: (1) allow users to only download the maps they want/need or (2) install all maps by default. There is a problem either way. The first option means people have to make some effort to pull the maps they want/need and that will not go over well with most users I suspect because they have come to accept that it just works and that is the expectation. THe second problem is obviously preloading the device with all the maps of the areas where the devices will be sold or just all the maps in general would consume a fair bit of space and that would not be acceptable to users. Is there a solution? Probably and maybe that would be in a future version. 4. Keyboards, well I don't see any problem with the default keyboard. Maybe it is not perfect, but I am sure something along the lines of Flexy might be a nice addition. So,there may be better options or ways to implement and unless folks in general complain I do not expect APple will change anything here. So, most folks must not have a problem with the default keyboard. 5. I am sure Siri will be improved, but nor do I expect Siri to be perfect. Because Siri is not localized to the device there is going to be some lag in getting a response, but that is the nature of the beast. If I recall correctly, Android does the processing locally which would make a difference. Of course all this depends on how heavily you use Siri. Because I'm not a heavy user of Siri I am not overly concerned. I really do not get the point of all this chatter about the micro USB connection. Apple does not have to use any standard connection and to be honest I think their sales numbers prove that most people do not care either. A lot of the points you made really appeal to a smaller subset of the overall population of mobile users in my opinion. I believe the average user wants something that works and is consistent. The problem with Android as I see it is the fact that there is less consistency, carriers do not provide a simple upgrade path if one at all, and most of the manufactures are basing their wow! factor on things that the average user is not really interested in. If you are a tinkerer you probably won't find the stock iOS for you and you will be jailbreaking or using something else. For me I had all my hacking fun in my youth and now I'm much more interested in being productive and not having to tweak things to work. If iOS no longer meets my needs I would look for something else, but since it has and I expect it will continue to meet my needs, no point looking elsewhere. Of course these are my opinions and like you I am able to express them as well. On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote: James, Man, this is what happens when I get behind on a crowded list. To be fair though, you bring up a good point, and here is one of my last posts on the subject before letting the horse rest. 1. Security: I think Apple could have beefed up iOS 6 for facial recognition or something in the same neighborhood similar to other platforms. Apple could do it if it wanted. 2. Social Networking Integration: Facebook and Twitter great, however, not the only boys in town. Everyone will have their preference, but social net is still better integrated on opposing platforms. 3. Maps: Not a bad first attempt. No serious complaints there, but if you're going to roll it out, do it Apple grandeur style. No off-line view is disappointing, and turn-by-turn better on alternative platforms. 4. Keyboards: Please oh
Re: iOS 6 is live
However, I think things are moving along pretty nicely as compared to the iOS 5.0 update. On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Just to add to Neil’s post, iOS 6 is also available now in Canada, but the download is going very slow, the servers must be really bogged down. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Welcome to the 96% Club
Don't worry, just relax and wait it will move along. All three of our devices slowed at 96% and then finally finished up. On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Mark, Mine is doing the same right now, it took about 20 minutes to download up to about 33%, then next time I checked 10 minutes later it was at 92% and it went upt o 96% every few seconds and for the last few minutes it's been sitting at 96%. I guess I'll leave it sit for a while and see what happens, if nothing happens in 20 or so minutes I'll probably just unplug my phone from power and go to work. Not sure if next time I try the download will start all over or if it starts where it left off. I guess there is probably some advantage to waiting a day or 2, but in this world of instant gratification who can do that *smile*. Regards, Sieghard disconnect and -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 6 is live I got up to 96% in about 30ish minutes, maybe a bit more, and now it seems to be stuck there... not sure what I should do. I think it's been at that number for about 10 minutes now. -Marc On 9/19/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: I have a new sweet internet connection and got the iOS 6 iPHone software in 5 and a half minutes, and the iPad version in 7. On 19 Sep 2012, at 18:14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Just to add to Neil's post, iOS 6 is also available now in Canada, but the download is going very slow, the servers must be really bogged down. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- There is no shame in being who you are. There's only shame in not going down swinging to protect it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Have the option to download and install ios 6 from the phone. Should I do that, or use the computer?
No reason not to do the over the air update On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote: It's here, but I'm thinking computer is best. What say you people? As always, Thanks/advance. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new keyboard behaviour
I like the new behavior and once you get used to it I think it will be more comfortable. Old habits will be a little hard to brake. On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing? I do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the numbers, but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key. especially as I used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of text. this seems now to be very hap hazard. others thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Speech Quality Setting
Just wait a bit after connecting to ac and the high quality voice will return on its own. On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just updated to 6.0. Could someone please tell me how to turn the high quality speech back on? I have the standard vo and am having a very difficult time understanding the speech. Hope everyone's updates are going well. On to Jerry's IPad. Lynda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
I have also communicated to APple with the issue and exact steps to reproduce. If they responded then you can bet they will work on the issue. May not happen tomorrow, but it will be addressed. On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: I received email from Apple sayhing they can replicate the problem and are working on a solution. The reply was not detailed, but it came quickly, and I am reassured that Apple is aware of the problem. Craig On 9/16/12, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: After much experimenting, I have concluded that I can't get iBooks links to activate and plan to write to accessibil...@apple.com soon. Here is what I have discovered. If anyone can report different results, please let me know. Problem: When trying to activate a link in iBooks 2.1.1 that takes a user to a different page of the book than the one being read, the Double-tap gesture produces no results. There is no links option on the rotor within the iBooks app. Therefore, if a user wants to try to activate a link, he/she must stop reading the text and go to the words or characters options of the rotor, flick down until the title of the link is heard, and do a double-tap. I have tried tapping at several places on the line that lists a particular link, all to no avail. Damashe suggested that links with other information on the same line might cause troubles, and it is true that in the case of the iBook links I have been working with, there is other information on the line, such as two greater-than signs and a comma, but this information is not contiguous to the title of the link. At any rate, regardless of where I double-tap on the line, I get no results. The double-tap-and-hold pass-through gesture does pop up a menu of options, but these have to do with the word being selected, not with the link itself. Craig On 9/12/12, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This doesn't always work as sometimes the usual roter options are not always available in iBooks for me. Also, the double tap and hold doesn't work at all for navigation links that are supposed to move you to another part of the book. I am not sure if this is an accessibility issue or one related to formatting of a particular book or PDF as in some cases, the links work just fine and other times they don't. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book Hello, When you use up and down flicks along with the rotor to navigate on to the exact link, use a double-tap and hold (pass-through gesture) to tell the iOS device you want to work specifically with the link. A menu of options should pop up. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 11/09/2012, at 14:25, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Dameshe and Scott, for weighing in. I am going to get sighted help tomorrow and do some more experimenting. Dameshe, from a character by character search of lines containing links, it certainly appears that any line containing a link carries other information besides the name of the link, including greater than signs signifying the presence of a link. I'll be back with an update soon. Craig On 9/10/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have found that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a Braille display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated. I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or Braille when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be brought to APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing accessibil...@apple.com. On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to have happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a link, as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click it. But if I wrote the url like this, www.google.coj, and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not activate that link. Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then double tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other punctuation or something on the line with the link. Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some. - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far
Mark, First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be forthcoming since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks would use. On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, It has been a long day. I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has been extremely painful. Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice guided navigation. I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm. One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode. A T T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible. I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow. Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from A T T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month. One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer. The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone. So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn directions a spin. Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed
Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to be honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe it depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the problem yet. :) On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. I tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched the screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what app I was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive. I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far
Mark, I have not taken Maps for a walk yet; however, just standing in my house it seems that streets may be spoken. So, are you saying that as you approach an intersection the cross street is not announced? On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:10 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Scott, To answer your first question, the Trekker, as does Mobile Speak, automatically announces cross streets either with or without a route being set. This is a feature upon which I insist when traveling alone, in unfamiliar areas. As to your second question, in my opinion, Apple is not in the business of Map making and, while they may offer very good solutions, I suspect that A T T Wireless, with its vast nationwide telephone infrastructure has more resources dedicated to maintaining POI updated listings. This is just a supposition; perhaps Apple will prove me wrong as they have on several occasions. (Smile). Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far Mark, First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be forthcoming since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks would use. On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, It has been a long day. I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has been extremely painful. Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice guided navigation. I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm. One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode. A T T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible. I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow. Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from A T T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month. One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer. The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone. So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn directions a spin. Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: IOS 6.0 and Voiceover - Moving Folders and Apps
No problems moving or deleting apps. I moved a couple of folders in fact from one screen to another and moved some apps both within folders and outside folders. On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kerry Painter kerryanne.pain...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve noticed a few little glitches with VO since updating and one of them is the very action of moving folders and apps. For some reason mine keeps stopping for a few seconds and VO doesn’t do anything. I also seem to be able to move things up and down the screen far better than I can move them sideways and it doesn’t always announce what app I’m moving onto even though I know what app it is and that it should be there. Anyone else experienced this? Kerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed
Well I can say that rebooting did not change anything. However, the problem is not as bad as it was in 5.1.1. So, although I can make it happen it is not a big issue. :) On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, Interesting. That bug has disappeared for me as well after updating to IOS6 Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to be honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe it depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the problem yet. :) On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi List, Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. I tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched the screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what app I was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive. I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call
I have not experienced this since the update, but I have experienced this behavior once or twice in 5.1.1. On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Hi All, Since updating to iOS 6 on my iPHone 4S, when ending a call that I instigated, Voice Over seems to be off, in fact, its volume has been reduced to 0%… Has anyone else experienced this at all…? My resolution to date, has simply been, following the call, and the seemingly now dead iPhone, to simply tap the screen anywhere and press and hold the physical volume up key. I also have experienced the same issue, although not every time, when using Siri and the Dictate button within SMS / iMessage etc. Any thoughts? Neil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: FaceTime and iOS 6
And for those of you who disagrees with ATT's blocking of FaceTime over 3G unless you have this shared data plan, and you live in the U.S. I would encourage you to file a complaint with the FCC. I have filed a complaint with the FCCC to which ATT must respond. Blocking Face TIme just because I (or anyone else) does not have a shared data plan is not only unfair, but most likely in violation of the Net Neutrality rules. Verizon Wireless and Sprint do not block Face TIme for any customer regardless of their data plan. On Sep 20, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Sabrina, Are you with ATT? Apparently ATT blocks Facetime over 3G unless you are on a shared plan. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina Giles Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: FaceTime and iOS 6 Hi list, I was trying to FaceTime a contact on 3G network. My friend has a 4 and he never got the notification I was trying to FaceTime him. Is this because he has a 4? Sabrina Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Callendar bug squashed
Yep, I can confirm this one, so report the issue and I'm sure they'll fix it. On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:06 PM, E Steven S sseri...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed one thing and broke another. You can not tell what calendars you have selected. You have to wonder about the beta testing. I know one of them, and I sure wouldn't ask him to go through my phone. Not a major flaw, but a huge miss, again... E -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Len Burns Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Callendar bug squashed That makes two of us! This was one of the first things I checked last night. Thanks to Apple on this one. -Len On 9/20/2012 1:36 PM, Jennie Facer wrote: I found that I can now enter an all-day event. I'm happy about that. Jenn Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver performance iOS 6
Wayne, I also recall reading something about the four finger tap and thought perhaps that was an error, so apparently it is then. Seemed odd that Apple would change the command. On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the confusion. I just tried the 3 finger triple tap myself and it worked to toggle the screen curtain on/off. I read the information on one of the many accessibility sites for my source. Wayne On 9/20/12, Dan key...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, I am currently using iOS6, and the three finger taps all work the same. That is the three finger double tap turns on and off speech, the three finger triple tap turns on and off the screen curtain. So, I don't see any changes. Sent from my Sprint iPhone 4S On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote: I recall reading somewhere that the 3 finger triple tap for the screen curtain has been moved to the 3 finger quadruple tap. The 3 finger triple tap mutes/unmutes speech, and I don't recall what the 3 finger double tap does now, but it is one of the new features/enhancements in iOS 6. Hth, Wayne On 9/20/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, After I upgraded my iPhone 4 today, I noticed my screen curtain was not working. Three-finger triple-tap caused VO to announce off and on status, but the screen remained bright. Wonderful, I thought, such a basic VO bug. So, I decided I would investigate when I got home this evening. Before I could, I received a call. Two-finger double-tap would not disconnect the call. What was going on. I turned my iPhone off to disconnect the call. It took a significantly longer time to start back up after shut down. When it came on again, the screen curtain was working fine. Also, double-tap properly ends calls again. I suggest you turn your iPhone off and then on again. I bet it will clear up your VO sluggishness. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20/09/2012, at 19:33, Marissa solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote: iOS 6 , iPhone 4S 16GB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Mark's iOS 6.0 Map App Walking Navigation Extended Results Report
Mark, I suspect it will not be any different with an iPhone 5. I have read several articles that indicate the Maps app really is not completely baked at this point and APple is still working on it. Although I am not clear why APple chose to use TomTom map data when there are better sources (other than Google) that could have been used. I believe this and other factors is what may be the real issue. There are some areas where the Maps app apparently works very well and just exploring my neighborhood while sitting in my basement I got a pretty good overview of the area. So, I guess there are a number of factors that will determine your experience and only time will tell how the Maps app will function. Maybe it'll become something great or something that gets pushed into the back folder with those other apps you don't use. :) Thanks for sharing your experience and it would be interesting to see what others have found. On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, NOTE 1: I just returned from over 90 minutes of using the iOS 6.0 Maps App, via VoiceOver, on my iPhone 4 S. I am extremely tired and uncomfortable as today is a particularly hot day here in southern California. Normally, I would post my results after a rest but want to report while the experience is still fresh in my mind. So, if the following comes across as curt, please accept my apology; I just want to get the facts, as I experienced them, to you. NOTE 2: Before heading out the door, I made sure my iPHone reported 100% battery level. I turned my WiFi off and rebooted the phone for good measure. NOTE 3: During the entire experience, my phone reported that I had a 4G connection. This connection was never lost as I live in a part of town that, for better or worse, is replete with A T T Wireless cell towers. NOTE 4: I only experimented with creating and using walking directions, not driving directions. NOTE 5: I did not use any Bluetooth connected accessories but, rather, only the included Apple headset that ships with the 4 S. NOTE 6: My initial positive test results, yesterday, were based on the fact that Siri correctly announced my approach to a street at the beginning of a short route. NOTE 7: While it is not my intention to draw comparisons between the iOS 6.0 Maps App and the Trekker Breeze, I will refer to the Breeze if for no other reason than to informs those who may not know, that such features exist in a GPS solution designed for the blind and low vision. Now that all that is out of the way let's get to it, shall we? 1. I live about a quarter of a mile from the nearest street that is mapped. As a result, when using my current location as the starting point, I could only create a route when standing in a certain position in my driveway. In order to consistently create a route, I had to walk up to the street that is mapped. While this is not a deal breaker, by any means, Trekker can provide off-map guidance. 2. My first experiment was to not create a route but, instead, set tracking to on plus headings and then just walk down the street. While Maps, as I will refer to it from this point forward, reported that I was approaching an intersection, it did not do so consistently. In fact, it inconsistently listed some streets while omitting others. I should also let you know that the accuracy of the street name announcements were dismal, at best. That is to say, as a low vision person, I could see the intersections and compare what I saw to when information was reported. It appeared to me that the longer I walked, the more inaccurate and/or sluggish Maps became. Please note that I conducted some experiments multiple times in order to discern any patterns. NOTE 8: Just in case you're wondering, there were no tall building, clouds, or any kind of obstructions blocking my view of the sky. NOTE 9: The compass, during all my experiments, was dead on. It was perfectly accurate and the most responsive. 3. Next, I created several walking routes. I deliberately chose destinations by which one may only travel in one direction. That is to say, all of the streets, along the route, dead-end into others. To my astonishment, Maps got them all wrong. In one test, the directions were reversed. For example instructing me to turn left when I could only turn right. In another experiment, it listed streets that were simply not there. 4. Whenever I attempted to view the list of directions, which by the way did not dynamically update, tracking would switch to off. This was maddening, to put it nicely. 5. When reporting my current location, compass headings notwithstanding, the only thing Maps consistently got right was the city. Sometimes it reported the correct street but not enough to trust, were I totally blind and in an unfamiliar environment. 6. Even though I have my
Re: Mark's iOS 6.0 Map App Walking Navigation Extended Results Report
Daniel, You can disagree respectfully or otherwise; however, as much as I agree with what you are saying, you miss the entire point here and that simply is that APple really touted this as being the greatest thing yet in terms of software. When you put a great deal of emphasis on this one feature and do not indicate at that time there could be issues, you can bet there will be a lot of blowback from users. I agree Apple needs time to get it right and I am all for patience, but this is just one of those situations where users have expectations and now they feel let down. I think you see why all the level of disappointment. On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to respectfully disagree, simply because I don't want to start a flame war that's unnecessary. However, things are going to have bugs, plain and simple, that's just the nature of technology, be it hardware or software, especially for a first foray into maps like Apple's undertaking. They've even stated themselves that maps will get better in time. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark's iOS 6.0 Map App Walking Navigation Extended Results Report Um, I'm sorry but this isn't a beta. When this is one of the main features you gush over at two separate keynote events, it'd better be ready to go when you release the product to the masses. I'm willing to forgive minor errors but some of these make the app look absolutely terrible, plain and simple. When you hype something up that much, only for it to fail upon launch, that's dropping the ball in my opinion. First impressions are the most important: If major errors like the ones I mentioned in my previous e-mail are what people were greeted with, many won't give apple the time to fix the problems. I'm not just talking about low vision or visually-impaired users here -- many will simply move on and find other alternatives. I believe I read that Apple's maps app has been in development for five-years and it isn't like they're doing it alone: They've partnered up with Tom Tom, Yelp and others. I'm not saying the app will never be good, it's just that people aren't going to wait around for apple to get their act together. It's also nice that people can submit errors to fix but how is that going to work if people won't stick around? Personally, I don't use it much and would give them a chance to fix things but I'm just thinking from other people's perspective. What good is a GPS that doesn't give you accurate directions/info and how much can you trust it in the future? -Marc On 9/20/12, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind, guys, this is apples first attempt at a complete maps solution that isn't powered by anyone else like Google. There are going to be kinks, but give them time to work them out before we all start saying they dropped the ball. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Rocheleau Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark's iOS 6.0 Map App Walking Navigation Extended Results Report I read a post at iPhone In Canada that the new maps app is receiving widespan criticism from all sides. Many streets are missing, listed as being much further than they actually are and in many cases there are points of interest (such as restaurants or retail stores) that have been shut down for years being listed still. For as many things as apple gets right, it sounds like they really dropped the ball with this one. Here's a link to the post: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/apple-software/apple-faces-criticism-over -omiss ions-errors-in-new-maps-poll/ Sounds like they're on the case though. Here's an article that was just posted about them working on these issues: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/apple-states-maps-team-is-und er-loc kdown-to-fix-issues/ -Marc On 9/20/12, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: I remember last year when Apple were talking about IOS six, they said that they would not deal in making maps for visually people yet as for now they were going to leave that to third parties. Thanks Mark for your report. I think we just have to wait for a couple more years before Apple do make something reverlutionary for people with all disabilities. I'm sure that Apple are aware that people want something like what we have on the Treker breeze. As a side note, I have noticed a lot of people are selling the Breeze. I think that people are waiting to get these maps to hope that they can use them in the way that Mark wants to use them. They will be disappointed. Good things happen when one is patient. Kind regards, Kawal.
Re: Do Not Disturb
You know I am inclined to agree because I just did a little testing here and found that DN behaved as advertised and I got no audible notification in the lock screen. In fact I would suspect when DN is activated (whether manually or via schedule) you should not have any visual or audible alert since DN means exactly that. So, perhaps rebooting and see what happens is the solution. I do recall trying this and I did get an alert in the lock screen which leads to believe me that the problem is not a VO problem, but a problem perhaps with DN. DN seems to do more than just silence the ringer and other sounds because if you call you are shunted to voicemail immediately. So, if something does not happen as it should it could have some odd results. On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:18 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: OK, as they say, the plot thickens here. Firstly, I have Speak Notifications on the Lock Screen set to on, I have just checked twice. Secondly, my DND function works just fine, and Voice Over is not announcing anything to me when it is enabled. This perhaps could be one of those odd Voice Over Quirks like, for example, when the screen curtain does, or does not, come back on when you power cycle your device. For ages I had the screen curtain enabled, and whether I power cycled or simply triple pressed the home key to turn Voice Over off and then on again, the screen curtain would come right back on again. All of a sudden, about 4 weeks ago, this stopped again, and if the phone was power cycled or Voice Over turned off, the screen curtain would not automatically resume its state. I think with regards to DND it is very important that users understand there are effectively two sets of options for this, two on / off switches if you will. Ignoring any setting in Notifications, you can on the fly turn DND on and then off again straight from the primary Settings window. You can also have DND set to come on and off automatically based on a schedule. What is important here is that you do not need to turn it on in the primary Settings window if you are using the schedule. So I have my DND set to come on at 22:00 and off at 07:00, I do not, in this setup, need to also enable or disable the DND switch in the primary Settings window. NOTE even if the primary control states off, DND maybe on, based on the schedule you have set. Best practice is to check the status bar, just to the left of the clock you will find Voice Over will announce a Moon symbol, this is the DND icon. This icon comes and goes dependent on DND status. With my DND switch in the primary Settings window set to off, at 22:00 hours the moon symbol appeared bang on queue and went at 07:00. Next, with DND, the default is to be notified by only folk in your favourites list, you can change this to everyone, although quite why you'd wish to do that, or no-one. One thing that does intrigue me, is the option below this for Groups, There is one group in there for me, All, yet, I have never realised, and indeed found the options for, creating a group in iOS Contacts. Can anyone tell me, is this possible? Whilst I use the Favourites feature of the phone app, I would prefer a group of family members so that I could add those to the DND function. These folk though do not need to be in my favourite call list. I hope that all this makes sense to those wishing to use DND. Best wishes. On 20 Sep 2012, at 21:45, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: My “Do Not Disturb” does not work. I can’t get it to silence calls. Am I missing something? I’ve tried every setting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Navigon Update
WHat I'm really curious about Raul is if the transit inapt purchase is of value. THe price is reasonable if the information is helpful. Obviously trying it for myself would be the way to determine the value, but I have not read here that anyone has tested this out. On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hi, as I stated in a prior message, this new version is very accessible. It's my preferred GPS app over all of them for turn-by-turn stuff. -- Raul A. Gallegos The local orphanage called and asked for a donation. So I sent them my kids. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/20/2012 8:27 PM, Danny Leung wrote: Hi, Sorry to ask the question again, is the new version as accessible as prior version 2? I am using iPhone 4 and have accessibility issue with Navigon after version 1.8. Thus I have restore back to 1.8 version. Now I am hesitating to update to the latest one. I appreciate your feedback. Danny -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Navigon Update Hi, so far from what I can tell the app is just as accessible as before. So, update without worries. -- Raul A. Gallegos Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/20/2012 3:23 PM, Danny Leung wrote: Hello, Can you tell us the new version of Navigon is accessible by vIO? Thanks! Danny -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Navigon Update I received an App Update as I own Navigon North America, but I'm guessing that Navigon US and other Navigon modules are also being updated for IOS6. In addition to new maps, one can purchase an add-in called Urban Guidance which integrates bus, rail, subway and taxi information into pedestrian routes. It costs $2.99 and once the update is installed it can be purchased through the extras menu. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Sounds on IPhone when using braille.
I do believe this would be a feature request. I was hoping it would mute all sounds, so my suggestion I intend to send to APple is that perhaps this be an option, (e.g. button that cycles through speech off with sounds or speech off without sounds). I think this would make all camps happy. On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I always turn the speech of, when I am reading braille on my phone. Now there are some soundeffect, that will not go away, it is disturbing, that the phone is not completely silent, when I turn of the speech. I know that I can use the button on the phone, but when it can not give a sound when someone is calling. Has any of you found a solution of that. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5 and power up vibration
If the mute switch is set to on I believe the 4S will vibrate when booting up. I have not tried this lately, so recalling from memory. My 4S does not vibrate while booting otherwise. On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:10 AM, anne fraser anmifra...@gmail.com wrote: I have an iphone 4s with ios 6 and it vibrates when the phone boots up. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: This will please some, I have my new iPhone 5 64gb here, when powering it up, it now does that thing many of us like, it vibrates. This is not an iOS6 feature, this is iPhone5. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. Nine doesn't -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 5 size -- Does it fit in a shirtpocket sideways (landscape)
Keith, no disrespect, but this is a rather odd question because if you think about it; the size of the iPhone is not relevant. The question you should ask yourself is would the shirt pocket accommodate the iPhone. Add a half inch perhaps to your current iPhone and that will give you some idea of the new iPhone length. Although in a case on your belt might be a safer place, IMHO. hth, Scott On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Hi, I get my iPhone 5 in a few weeks. I’m curious if it fits in a shirtpocket. I like to put it in my pocket vertically, and then turn it to horizontal, or landscape. The top and bottom of the phone are against the sides of my shirt pocket. Does the taller iPhone fit in a shirt pocket that way? Thanks in advance. Keith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
