Re: Iphoto

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 15 Mar 2016, at 2:42 PM, Juliet Kitson  wrote:
> 
> Hello All
> The usual happened when installing Elcapitan iPhoto becomes Photo's, the only 
> problem al the photos that were in events are no longer sorted properly, I 
> know there was instructions somewhere but I can't find them. Is there a way 
> to migrate and have them set up the same way.
> Regards Bill

Photos will do what it does when importing an iPhoto library. On my system in 
Photos, when I choose View > Show Sidebar I see a folder called “iPhpto 
Events”. All my Events are preserved there.

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Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Matt Falvey]

Hi Ronni, sorry for the mix up with the duplicate posting. The first reply had 
not been posted, so I sent the second one and about an hour later both showed 
up.

Anyway. Yes, my iMac is completely up to date.

I made a cope of iPhoto and deleted the files ' googlemap.html ' and 
?googlesearch.html'

Opened iPhoto and it works perfectly apart from the geographic map has 
disappeared.

I had a quick look on the web and most pundits say this is because Apple's 
contract with google has expired and all versions of iPhoto earlier than 9.5 
have lost the function location (mine is 9.4.3). The general census seems to be 
if I want to have this function with is now supplied by Apple maps, I should 
upgrade to Yosemite (or beyond as I can only see El Capitan in my software 
update list) and instal iPhoto 9.6.1

From memory the reason I did not go to Yosemite was that I might have had 
compatibility problems with some of my existing applications, previously when 
updates became available there was a little application or document that was 
available that would show you applications that would not work or potentially 
fail, are you aware of any that came with Yosemite or El Capitan to enable me 
to compare them to 10.8.5 ? 

Once again, thanks very much.

Matt.

--

Hi Matt,

Is your Mac completely uptodate, have you installed updates when Apple notified 
to update?

Anyway -  So iPhoto opens now after Rebuilding the Library; but iPhoto crashes 
when you open the Info panel?
It seems to be problem with the Google maps that are no longer supported.

1. Go to /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/Resources
2. Delete the files ' googlemap.html ' and ?googlesearch.html'

Removing the two files ' googlemap.html ' and googlesearch.html from iPhoto's 
application bundle prevents the javascript inside from being executed and 
causing the crash.

To access the files inside the iPhoto application select it in the Finder and 
Control-Click it. 
Then use the command "Show Package Contents" from the menu.  
Open the subfolder Contents, then Resources.
Scroll down to find the files.

NOTE: Don't try this fix without making a copy of the iPhoto application before 
you try to remove the two files from the application bundle.
It?s just safer to have a copy of the application before digging around inside 
the application; just as a precaution, in case you accidentally delete the 
wrong files.


Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X El Capitan OS X 10.11.1

> On 11 Dec 2015, at 12:59 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ronni, I rebuilt the library and it opened without a hitch. I had good 
> look through everything and it seemed to be working fine.
> 
> Then any time I pressed "info" for a photo, it displays the info details side 
> panel for a couple of seconds and then quits and the "iPhoto quit 
> unexpectedly" message comes up.   When I hit "Reopen" it reopen's instantly 
> and is perfect apart from the above problem?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt.
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:59:19 +0800
> From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>>
> To: wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: iPhoto will not open.
> Message-ID: <347d362d-f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com 
> <mailto:f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> If you don't have a current backup of iPhoto I suggest you do a backup first.
> Remember to Quit iPhoto before backing up.
> Then Rebuild the iPhoto Library:
> 
> Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au 
>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
>> 
>> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
>> 
>> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
>> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
>> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head 
>> nor tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
>> 
>> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to both. 
>> I ran Aperture and it said something like 

Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Ronni Brown]

.   When I hit "Reopen" it reopen's instantly 
>> and is perfect apart from the above problem?
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Matt.
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:59:19 +0800
>> From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com> 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>>>
>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au> 
>> <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> Subject: Re: iPhoto will not open.
>> Message-ID: <347d362d-f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com> 
>> <mailto:f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com>>>
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>> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> If you don't have a current backup of iPhoto I suggest you do a backup first.
>> Remember to Quit iPhoto before backing up.
>> Then Rebuild the iPhoto Library:
>> 
>> Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au 
>>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au 
>>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
>>> 
>>> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
>>> 
>>> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
>>> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
>>> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head 
>>> nor tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
>>> 
>>> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to 
>>> both. I ran Aperture and it said something like as the library keeps 
>>> crashing you should try one of these three options. I think the first one 
>>> was repair the permissions, the second one was repair the library and I am 
>>> not sure what the third one was but it involved a more robust option.
>>> 
>>> I chose the second option and Aperture rebuilt the library and it opened 
>>> up. All of the info that I had typed onto individual photos in iPhoto was 
>>> there as were the albums , etc.
>>> 
>>> So I thought I would push the envelope as I already had a back up of the 
>>> iPhoto library. I closed Aperture and tried to open iPhoto. This time it 
>>> opened and stayed on the last page that I had displayed in Aperture for 
>>> about 10 secs before shutting down and the  "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" 
>>> message came up. I tried Reopen and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" came up 
>>> immediately.
>>> 
>>> I went back to Aperture and that opened straight away, everything the same 
>>> as before.
>>> 
>>> I have two questions:
>>> 
>>> - Should I do a back up know? As it appears I have a working library thanks 
>>> to Aperture. (In the meantime I am keeping it open just in case)
>>> 
>>> - What should I do to try and get iPhoto to work with what it obviously a 
>>> working library?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Matt.

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Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Matt,

Did you try doing what I suggested in my reply to your Post yesterday @ 1:59PM?

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 11 Dec 2015, at 11:13 AM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
> 
> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
> 
> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head nor 
> tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
> 
> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to both. 
> I ran Aperture and it said something like as the library keeps crashing you 
> should try one of these three options. I think the first one was repair the 
> permissions, the second one was repair the library and I am not sure what the 
> third one was but it involved a more robust option.
> 
> I chose the second option and Aperture rebuilt the library and it opened up. 
> All of the info that I had typed onto individual photos in iPhoto was there 
> as were the albums , etc.
> 
> So I thought I would push the envelope as I already had a back up of the 
> iPhoto library. I closed Aperture and tried to open iPhoto. This time it 
> opened and stayed on the last page that I had displayed in Aperture for about 
> 10 secs before shutting down and the  "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" message came 
> up. I tried Reopen and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" came up immediately.
> 
> I went back to Aperture and that opened straight away, everything the same as 
> before.
> 
> I have two questions:
> 
> - Should I do a back up know? As it appears I have a working library thanks 
> to Aperture. (In the meantime I am keeping it open just in case)
> 
> - What should I do to try and get iPhoto to work with what it obviously a 
> working library?  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Matt.
> ts.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>

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Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Matt,

Is your Mac completely uptodate, have you installed updates when Apple notified 
to update?

Anyway -  So iPhoto opens now after Rebuilding the Library; but iPhoto crashes 
when you open the Info panel?
It seems to be problem with the Google maps that are no longer supported.

1. Go to /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/Resources
2. Delete the files ' googlemap.html ' and ‘googlesearch.html'

Removing the two files ' googlemap.html ' and googlesearch.html from iPhoto's 
application bundle prevents the javascript inside from being executed and 
causing the crash.

To access the files inside the iPhoto application select it in the Finder and 
Control-Click it. 
Then use the command "Show Package Contents" from the menu.  
Open the subfolder Contents, then Resources.
Scroll down to find the files.

NOTE: Don't try this fix without making a copy of the iPhoto application before 
you try to remove the two files from the application bundle.
It’s just safer to have a copy of the application before digging around inside 
the application; just as a precaution, in case you accidentally delete the 
wrong files.


Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X El Capitan OS X 10.11.1

> On 11 Dec 2015, at 12:59 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ronni, I rebuilt the library and it opened without a hitch. I had good 
> look through everything and it seemed to be working fine.
> 
> Then any time I pressed "info" for a photo, it displays the info details side 
> panel for a couple of seconds and then quits and the "iPhoto quit 
> unexpectedly" message comes up.   When I hit "Reopen" it reopen's instantly 
> and is perfect apart from the above problem?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt.
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:59:19 +0800
> From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>>
> To: wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: iPhoto will not open.
> Message-ID: <347d362d-f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com 
> <mailto:f743-4977-8266-b5cef39d8...@mac.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> If you don't have a current backup of iPhoto I suggest you do a backup first.
> Remember to Quit iPhoto before backing up.
> Then Rebuild the iPhoto Library:
> 
> Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au 
>> <mailto:mmfal...@bigpond.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
>> 
>> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
>> 
>> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
>> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
>> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head 
>> nor tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
>> 
>> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to both. 
>> I ran Aperture and it said something like as the library keeps crashing you 
>> should try one of these three options. I think the first one was repair the 
>> permissions, the second one was repair the library and I am not sure what 
>> the third one was but it involved a more robust option.
>> 
>> I chose the second option and Aperture rebuilt the library and it opened up. 
>> All of the info that I had typed onto individual photos in iPhoto was there 
>> as were the albums , etc.
>> 
>> So I thought I would push the envelope as I already had a back up of the 
>> iPhoto library. I closed Aperture and tried to open iPhoto. This time it 
>> opened and stayed on the last page that I had displayed in Aperture for 
>> about 10 secs before shutting down and the  "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" 
>> message came up. I tried Reopen and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" came up 
>> immediately.
>> 
>> I went back to Aperture and that opened straight away, everything the same 
>> as before.
>> 
>> I have two questions:
>> 
>> - Should I do a back up know? As it appears I have a working library thanks 
>> to Aperture. (In the meantime I am keeping it open just in case)
>> 
>> - What should I do to try and get iPhoto to work with what it obviously a 
>> working library?  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Matt.

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Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Matt Falvey]

Hi Ronni, I rebuilt the library and it opened without a hitch. I had good look 
through everything and it seemed to be working fine.

Then any time I pressed "info" for a photo, it displays the info details side 
panel for a couple of seconds and then quits and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" 
message comes up.   When I hit "Reopen" it reopen's instantly and is perfect 
apart from the above problem?

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Matt.

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 13:59:19 +0800
From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com>
To: wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: iPhoto will not open.
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Hi Matt,

If you don't have a current backup of iPhoto I suggest you do a backup first.
Remember to Quit iPhoto before backing up.
Then Rebuild the iPhoto Library:

Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:11 PM, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
> 
> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
> 
> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head nor 
> tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
> 
> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to both. 
> I ran Aperture and it said something like as the library keeps crashing you 
> should try one of these three options. I think the first one was repair the 
> permissions, the second one was repair the library and I am not sure what the 
> third one was but it involved a more robust option.
> 
> I chose the second option and Aperture rebuilt the library and it opened up. 
> All of the info that I had typed onto individual photos in iPhoto was there 
> as were the albums , etc.
> 
> So I thought I would push the envelope as I already had a back up of the 
> iPhoto library. I closed Aperture and tried to open iPhoto. This time it 
> opened and stayed on the last page that I had displayed in Aperture for about 
> 10 secs before shutting down and the  "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" message came 
> up. I tried Reopen and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" came up immediately.
> 
> I went back to Aperture and that opened straight away, everything the same as 
> before.
> 
> I have two questions:
> 
> - Should I do a back up know? As it appears I have a working library thanks 
> to Aperture. (In the meantime I am keeping it open just in case)
> 
> - What should I do to try and get iPhoto to work with what it obviously a 
> working library?  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Matt.


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Re: iPhoto will not open.

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Matt,

If you don't have a current backup of iPhoto I suggest you do a backup first.
Remember to Quit iPhoto before backing up.
Then Rebuild the iPhoto Library:

Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and rebuild the library.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 10 Dec 2015, at 12:11 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> Hi I have a problem iPhoto will not open for very long.
> 
> I am using OS 10.8.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. and I have Aperture 3.4.5
> 
> Initially, iPhoto when I tried to open it would not work at all. It would 
> start to run and I would get an "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" note with three 
> options, Ignore, Report and Reopen. I tried them all, could not make head nor 
> tail out of the report and the Reopen just repeated the cycle.
> 
> I thought I would try opening the library in Aperture as it is link to both. 
> I ran Aperture and it said something like as the library keeps crashing you 
> should try one of these three options. I think the first one was repair the 
> permissions, the second one was repair the library and I am not sure what the 
> third one was but it involved a more robust option.
> 
> I chose the second option and Aperture rebuilt the library and it opened up. 
> All of the info that I had typed onto individual photos in iPhoto was there 
> as were the albums , etc.
> 
> So I thought I would push the envelope as I already had a back up of the 
> iPhoto library. I closed Aperture and tried to open iPhoto. This time it 
> opened and stayed on the last page that I had displayed in Aperture for about 
> 10 secs before shutting down and the  "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" message came 
> up. I tried Reopen and the "iPhoto quit unexpectedly" came up immediately.
> 
> I went back to Aperture and that opened straight away, everything the same as 
> before.
> 
> I have two questions:
> 
> - Should I do a back up know? As it appears I have a working library thanks 
> to Aperture. (In the meantime I am keeping it open just in case)
> 
> - What should I do to try and get iPhoto to work with what it obviously a 
> working library?  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Matt.
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Re: iPhoto Opens then Quits

[Diana & Graham Stevens]

On 03/12/2015, at 7:30 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

> 
>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 6:11 PM, Diana & Graham Stevens  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> iPhoto opens then quits immediately on my MacBook Pro [Early 2011, 2GHzCore 
>> i7, 8 GB 1333 DDR3, OS X 10.8.5 (12F2560)].
>> 
>> I was backing up my iPad before updating to iOS 9.1, first I import the few 
>> photos I have saved from emails and delete them from the iPad. This time I 
>> found they were being transferred to DropBox, I must have ticked a wrong box 
>> somewhere during a senior moment. I then tried to transfer them to iPhoto 
>> but it kept quitting.
>> 
>> I restarted, repaired permissions, zapped the PRAM all with no luck. I gave 
>> up and updated the iPad via iTunes with the photos still there.
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest what might be wrong with iPhoto and how to fix it please? 
>> I have copied the top portion of the report below my signature.
>> 
>> Also how can I stop the photos going to DropBox? I have looked in the 
>> preferences for DropBox and Photos but can see nothing I can change.
>> 
> Presuming you have the Dropbox app installed on your computer, click its icon 
> in the Menu Bar, then click the Gear Icon at the bottom of the window. Choose 
> Preferences from the popup menu, then click the Import icon in the 
> Preferences window. You will see a check box “Enale camera uploads for:”. 
> Make sure this is unchecked. Also click the button “Import Photos from 
> iPhoto”, then click the button “Never” on the resulting window.
> 
> If for some reason you don’t have the app installed, you’ll need to log into 
> your account on the Dropbox website. Click on your account name at the top of 
> the window and choose Settings from the dropdown menu. Make sure the check 
> box “Use Carousel web as my default photos experience” is unchecked (it’s 
> down the bottom under “Photos tab settings”).

Thanks Peter. I had already looked at the Dropbox website and the "Use Carousel 
…" was not checked.

When I looked in the Dropbox App just now I found "Enable camera ..." was 
checked so I have adjusted it as you suggested.

Best wishes from Diana
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Re: iPhoto Opens then Quits

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 2 Dec 2015, at 6:11 PM, Diana & Graham Stevens  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> iPhoto opens then quits immediately on my MacBook Pro [Early 2011, 2GHzCore 
> i7, 8 GB 1333 DDR3, OS X 10.8.5 (12F2560)].
> 
> I was backing up my iPad before updating to iOS 9.1, first I import the few 
> photos I have saved from emails and delete them from the iPad. This time I 
> found they were being transferred to DropBox, I must have ticked a wrong box 
> somewhere during a senior moment. I then tried to transfer them to iPhoto but 
> it kept quitting.
> 
> I restarted, repaired permissions, zapped the PRAM all with no luck. I gave 
> up and updated the iPad via iTunes with the photos still there.
> 
> Can anyone suggest what might be wrong with iPhoto and how to fix it please? 
> I have copied the top portion of the report below my signature.
> 
> Also how can I stop the photos going to DropBox? I have looked in the 
> preferences for DropBox and Photos but can see nothing I can change.
> 
> Best wishes to all from Diana
> 
> 

Presuming you have the Dropbox app installed on your computer, click its icon 
in the Menu Bar, then click the Gear Icon at the bottom of the window. Choose 
Preferences from the popup menu, then click the Import icon in the Preferences 
window. You will see a check box “Enale camera uploads for:”. Make sure this is 
unchecked. Also click the button “Import Photos from iPhoto”, then click the 
button “Never” on the resulting window.

If for some reason you don’t have the app installed, you’ll need to log into 
your account on the Dropbox website. Click on your account name at the top of 
the window and choose Settings from the dropdown menu. Make sure the check box 
“Use Carousel web as my default photos experience” is unchecked (it’s down the 
bottom under “Photos tab settings”).

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Re: iPhoto Update ?

[Stephen Chape]

All done … thanks once again Ronni.


> On 12 Oct 2015, at 10:10 AM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> Ok, here are more detailed instructions:
> 
> Can't Update iPhoto because it is not available in the App Store
> 
> NOTE: First Step 1.
> Move iPhoto from your Applications folder into the Trash and make sure there 
> are no disks mounted that have a copy of iPhoto on them before going to the 
> App Store to look for iPhoto 9.6.1.
> 
> Just as a precaution, copy iPhoto from your Applications folder onto an 
> external disk or USB stick and eject that drive.
> 
> If you didn't update your 9.x version of iPhoto prior to updating OS X 
> Yosemite to 10.10.3, you cannot update the app through the App Store. 
> Support for iPhoto was dropped with the release of Photos in Yosemite 10.10.3.
>  
> While you still cannot update iPhoto, you can re-install the app which will 
> download the current version.(9.6.1)
> Note that you must have iPhoto version 9.x for this to work. If you never 
> purchased the 9.x version of iPhoto, you will not be able to update it to the 
> Yosemite version.
>  
> Step 2.
> Go to the App Store, Purchases tab, and make sure iPhoto is in the list of 
> purchased software. 
> It may be hidden, so check for that: Hide and unhide purchases in the Mac App 
> Store - Apple Support.  
> If it is not in your Purchases list, this will not work, so don't bother 
> continuing.
>  
> Step 3.
> Make sure no other users have iPhoto open in the background. 
> It is best to have all other users logged out.
> You might need to Restart before iPhoto will clear from the App Store memory 
> (it it is still showing Update on the button in Purchases).
> 
> If it is still showing as Update, try searching Spotlight for iPhoto. There 
> may be a copy on a mounted external disk that it is identifying.
> 
> Step 4.
> You should now be able to go to the Purchases tab and find iPhoto with the 
> Update button now labeled "Install"
> 
> Click "Install" and it should download the current version which works with 
> Yosemite.
> When I first tried, after authenticating, it posted a 503 error and asked if 
> I wanted to Retry. When I clicked "Retry," it started downloading.
> It's about 1.2 GB, so it takes a little while to fully download.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> OS X Yosemite 10.10.5
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 5:01 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> Where should I find the Purchases List in App Store?
>> I found my Purchases but the only iPhoto there is way back in Dec 2012.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni.
>>> Mm  !!!
>>> The only iPhoto on my iMac is 9.6 so I can’t figure that either.
>>> However I will visit the App Store as suggested.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11 Oct 2015, at 6:18 AM, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 What version of iPhoto app do you have installed?
 
 'Photos' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
 transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
 So I'm wondering how you could have done the transition of your iPhoto 
 Library if you didn't already have iPhoto.app version 9.6.1?
 
 The message you are receiving is indicating you need to update iPhoto to 
 version 9.6.1 and as it is no longer available at the App Store, you need 
 to:
 
 1. Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
 If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1
  
 2. If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto.app (not the library, 
 just the app) to the trash
  
 3. Install the iPhoto.App from the Purchases list - App Store.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 11 Oct 2015, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Chape > wrote:
 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have noticed I have a reminder for an iPhoto update from March 2015.
> Trouble is I got Photos when it was released.
> So when I try to download this update (simply to get rid of the reminder) 
> I get a message telling me it is not available at this time.
> 
> Any idea how to write off the reminders please ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
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[Stephen Chape]

Thanks Ronni.
Mm  !!!
The only iPhoto on my iMac is 9.6 so I can’t figure that either.
However I will visit the App Store as suggested.


> On 11 Oct 2015, at 6:18 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> What version of iPhoto app do you have installed?
> 
> 'Photos' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
> So I'm wondering how you could have done the transition of your iPhoto 
> Library if you didn't already have iPhoto.app version 9.6.1?
> 
> The message you are receiving is indicating you need to update iPhoto to 
> version 9.6.1 and as it is no longer available at the App Store, you need to:
> 
> 1. Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
> If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1
>  
> 2. If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto.app (not the library, just 
> the app) to the trash
>  
> 3. Install the iPhoto.App from the Purchases list - App Store.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 11 Oct 2015, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I have noticed I have a reminder for an iPhoto update from March 2015.
>> Trouble is I got Photos when it was released.
>> So when I try to download this update (simply to get rid of the reminder) I 
>> get a message telling me it is not available at this time.
>> 
>> Any idea how to write off the reminders please ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Stephen Chape]

Hi Ronni,
Where should I find the Purchases List in App Store?
I found my Purchases but the only iPhoto there is way back in Dec 2012.


> On 11 Oct 2015, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni.
> Mm  !!!
> The only iPhoto on my iMac is 9.6 so I can’t figure that either.
> However I will visit the App Store as suggested.
> 
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 6:18 AM, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> What version of iPhoto app do you have installed?
>> 
>> 'Photos' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
>> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>> So I'm wondering how you could have done the transition of your iPhoto 
>> Library if you didn't already have iPhoto.app version 9.6.1?
>> 
>> The message you are receiving is indicating you need to update iPhoto to 
>> version 9.6.1 and as it is no longer available at the App Store, you need to:
>> 
>> 1. Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
>> If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1
>>  
>> 2. If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto.app (not the library, just 
>> the app) to the trash
>>  
>> 3. Install the iPhoto.App from the Purchases list - App Store.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I have noticed I have a reminder for an iPhoto update from March 2015.
>>> Trouble is I got Photos when it was released.
>>> So when I try to download this update (simply to get rid of the reminder) I 
>>> get a message telling me it is not available at this time.
>>> 
>>> Any idea how to write off the reminders please ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[Ronni Brown]

Hi Stephen,

Ok, here are more detailed instructions:

Can't Update iPhoto because it is not available in the App Store

NOTE: First Step 1.
Move iPhoto from your Applications folder into the Trash and make sure there 
are no disks mounted that have a copy of iPhoto on them before going to the App 
Store to look for iPhoto 9.6.1.

Just as a precaution, copy iPhoto from your Applications folder onto an 
external disk or USB stick and eject that drive.

If you didn't update your 9.x version of iPhoto prior to updating OS X Yosemite 
to 10.10.3, you cannot update the app through the App Store. 
Support for iPhoto was dropped with the release of Photos in Yosemite 10.10.3.
 
While you still cannot update iPhoto, you can re-install the app which will 
download the current version.(9.6.1)
Note that you must have iPhoto version 9.x for this to work. If you never 
purchased the 9.x version of iPhoto, you will not be able to update it to the 
Yosemite version.
 
Step 2.
Go to the App Store, Purchases tab, and make sure iPhoto is in the list of 
purchased software. 
It may be hidden, so check for that: Hide and unhide purchases in the Mac App 
Store - Apple Support.  
If it is not in your Purchases list, this will not work, so don't bother 
continuing.
 
Step 3.
Make sure no other users have iPhoto open in the background. 
It is best to have all other users logged out.
You might need to Restart before iPhoto will clear from the App Store memory 
(it it is still showing Update on the button in Purchases).

If it is still showing as Update, try searching Spotlight for iPhoto. There may 
be a copy on a mounted external disk that it is identifying.

Step 4.
You should now be able to go to the Purchases tab and find iPhoto with the 
Update button now labeled "Install"

Click "Install" and it should download the current version which works with 
Yosemite.
When I first tried, after authenticating, it posted a 503 error and asked if I 
wanted to Retry. When I clicked "Retry," it started downloading.
It's about 1.2 GB, so it takes a little while to fully download.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X Yosemite 10.10.5

> On 11 Oct 2015, at 5:01 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> Where should I find the Purchases List in App Store?
> I found my Purchases but the only iPhoto there is way back in Dec 2012.
> 
> 
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni.
>> Mm  !!!
>> The only iPhoto on my iMac is 9.6 so I can’t figure that either.
>> However I will visit the App Store as suggested.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 6:18 AM, Ronda Brown >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> What version of iPhoto app do you have installed?
>>> 
>>> 'Photos' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
>>> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>>> So I'm wondering how you could have done the transition of your iPhoto 
>>> Library if you didn't already have iPhoto.app version 9.6.1?
>>> 
>>> The message you are receiving is indicating you need to update iPhoto to 
>>> version 9.6.1 and as it is no longer available at the App Store, you need 
>>> to:
>>> 
>>> 1. Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
>>> If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1
>>>  
>>> 2. If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto.app (not the library, 
>>> just the app) to the trash
>>>  
>>> 3. Install the iPhoto.App from the Purchases list - App Store.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 
 I have noticed I have a reminder for an iPhoto update from March 2015.
 Trouble is I got Photos when it was released.
 So when I try to download this update (simply to get rid of the reminder) 
 I get a message telling me it is not available at this time.
 
 Any idea how to write off the reminders please ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 

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Hi Stephen,

What version of iPhoto app do you have installed?

'Photos' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
So I'm wondering how you could have done the transition of your iPhoto Library 
if you didn't already have iPhoto.app version 9.6.1?

The message you are receiving is indicating you need to update iPhoto to 
version 9.6.1 and as it is no longer available at the App Store, you need to:

1. Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. 
If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1
 
2. If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto.app (not the library, just 
the app) to the trash
 
3. Install the iPhoto.App from the Purchases list - App Store.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 11 Oct 2015, at 2:36 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have noticed I have a reminder for an iPhoto update from March 2015.
> Trouble is I got Photos when it was released.
> So when I try to download this update (simply to get rid of the reminder) I 
> get a message telling me it is not available at this time.
> 
> Any idea how to write off the reminders please ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Alan Smith]

Thanks Ronni,

Another task for later!

Cheers,
Alan

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Sep 2015, at 3:35 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> 'Photos for OS X' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
> 
>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 2:57 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> App Store has notified that an update is now available for iPhoto (vers 
>> 9.6.1) which was released on 20 March 2015.  Notification just received!   
>> My current installed version is 9.5.1 which has a diagonal cross on the 
>> Finder applications icon.  I am using Yosemite OS X 10.10.5.  I also have 
>> Photos (ver 1.0.1) installed.  I think I use Photos as my working app, but 
>> don’t know if I fully transferred any associated libraries from iPhoto. 
>> 
>> This morning I trashed all files in ~/Library/Caches to fix a stubborn 
>> iCloud problem. These included an item named Photos_Cache.noindex.
>> 
>> Should I download and install the App Store iPhotos update?
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
>> Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.5 
>> Yosemite
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'Photos for OS X' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.

> On 30 Sep 2015, at 2:57 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> App Store has notified that an update is now available for iPhoto (vers 
> 9.6.1) which was released on 20 March 2015.  Notification just received!   My 
> current installed version is 9.5.1 which has a diagonal cross on the Finder 
> applications icon.  I am using Yosemite OS X 10.10.5.  I also have Photos 
> (ver 1.0.1) installed.  I think I use Photos as my working app, but don’t 
> know if I fully transferred any associated libraries from iPhoto. 
> 
> This morning I trashed all files in ~/Library/Caches to fix a stubborn iCloud 
> problem. These included an item named Photos_Cache.noindex.
> 
> Should I download and install the App Store iPhotos update?
> 
> Regards, 
> Alan
> 
> Alan Smith
>  Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.5 
> Yosemite
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[Ronni Brown]

Hi Michael,

You have to go to the Purchases section of the App Store to download iPhoto 
9.6.1

Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. If iPhoto is there then 
it will be v9.6.1
 
If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto app (not the library, just the 
app) to the trash
 
Install the App from the App Store.
 
Sometimes iPhoto is not visible on the Purchases List. it may be hidden. 
See this article for details on how to unhide it.
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4928 
 
One question often asked: Will I lose my Photos if I reinstall?
 
iPhoto the application and the iPhoto Library are two different parts of the 
iPhoto programme. So, reinstalling the app should not affect the Library. BUT 
you should always have a back up before doing this kind of work. Always.

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 30 Sep 2015, at 8:49 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been trying to download that update, but keep getting a message that it 
> is not currently available on the Australian Apple Store.
> 
> What can be done?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael Hawkins.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael Hawkins
>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 4:01 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni,
>> 
>> Another task for later!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 3:35 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 'Photos for OS X' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
>>> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>>> 
 On 30 Sep 2015, at 2:57 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
 
 App Store has notified that an update is now available for iPhoto (vers 
 9.6.1) which was released on 20 March 2015.  Notification just received!   
 My current installed version is 9.5.1 which has a diagonal cross on the 
 Finder applications icon.  I am using Yosemite OS X 10.10.5.  I also have 
 Photos (ver 1.0.1) installed.  I think I use Photos as my working app, but 
 don’t know if I fully transferred any associated libraries from iPhoto. 
 
 This morning I trashed all files in ~/Library/Caches to fix a stubborn 
 iCloud problem. These included an item named Photos_Cache.noindex.
 
 Should I download and install the App Store iPhotos update?
 
 Regards, 
 Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.5 
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I’ve been trying to download that update, but keep getting a message that it is 
not currently available on the Australian Apple Store.

What can be done?

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 4:01 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> Another task for later!
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 3:35 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 'Photos for OS X' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
>> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 2:57 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> App Store has notified that an update is now available for iPhoto (vers 
>>> 9.6.1) which was released on 20 March 2015.  Notification just received!   
>>> My current installed version is 9.5.1 which has a diagonal cross on the 
>>> Finder applications icon.  I am using Yosemite OS X 10.10.5.  I also have 
>>> Photos (ver 1.0.1) installed.  I think I use Photos as my working app, but 
>>> don’t know if I fully transferred any associated libraries from iPhoto. 
>>> 
>>> This morning I trashed all files in ~/Library/Caches to fix a stubborn 
>>> iCloud problem. These included an item named Photos_Cache.noindex.
>>> 
>>> Should I download and install the App Store iPhotos update?
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Alan Smith
>>> Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.5 
>>> Yosemite
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[Rosemary Spark]

Hi there Ronni,
​I'm sorry I took so long to get back with a report.


Finally got my hands on RJ's computer!
​(he's a writer, it's very hard to get it out of his hands)

I did repair permissions on his local and external drive.

 ​
I
​also ​
re-did the repair disk on the usb backup disk, and the boot to Recovery on
his new hard drive on his MacBook Pro.
​ ​

Some of the problem
​must have been
 because with updating his computer he didn't have any version of iPhoto on
his computer
​. We re-loaded that and re-did the convert to Photos app.​


​Now there is
*iPhoto Library.photolibrary​ and ​*Photos Library.photoslibrary
​ on the external drive​.

F
​iles ​
& library sizes etc are on the
​e​
xternal
​d​
rive
​ for Photos and iPhoto are similar​. (though not identical)
​
The ​
external drive
​wa​
s formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled
​)​

And
​it was ​
connected
​with

​the (not particularly fast) usb ​
connection
​ that came with the hard drive (seagate)​


​The ownership was greyed out on the volume,  There was no place to add
him.
Where would I select  "ignore ownership"?
I added him to all the folders.​

​Unfortunately with the change from his old to "new" computer ​or the move
from the external hard disc* the photos have disappeared*. The structure is
still there but they only show up as grey boxes in Photo...and iPhoto. I
did an investigation on package contents and there are *no* photos in any
of the folders!

There certainly were at one point...but when that was is a little hazy,
certainly before his computer was re-done.

I tried to find an old fully functioning version of iPhoto from Time
Machine, but was very tricky as I'm not sure how far back it was working.
RJ is very hazy about that.

Also when I did find a folder in TM that looked hopeful there is a problem
with ownership, and though I tried to give him read/write permission it
took forever and seemed to timeout!...at which point RJ grabbed the
computer back!​

I know most of the photos will be in a folder organised by Picasa "Imported
from iPhoto" because iPhoto was flaky.
They will have to be added folder by folder as you can't seem to import
from within folders!

A job for another day!

Thanks for all the help!

Cheers
Rosemary





On Monday, 27 July 2015, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Rosemary,
>
> My comments coloured purple in Situ below
>
> On 26 Jul 2015, at 5:07 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>
> Hi Ronni,
> Just asking ...why would I do a re-boot into Recovery when the Photos
> library is on the external drive?
>
>
> *Why?:*
> *Because the MacBook Pro has the iPhoto & Photos applications,
> Preferences, & Hard Links to all media assets in the iPhoto & Photos
> Libraries that are on the external drive.*
>
> *(Actually I would have done a "Repair Disk" & "Repair Disk Permissions"
> on both the Internal Disk & the External Drive). *
>
>
> Since all this happened he had to completely clean off his computer ( it
> was filling up space when he was doing nothing...one of the reasons I took
> off his photos)
>
>
> *A reason to have done a 'Repair Disk' & 'Repair Disk Permissions' before.*
>
>
> So he has a clean drive... and he no longer has iPhoto app on it.
>
>
> *Photos for OS X *requires* iPhoto v9.6.1* to be able to make the
> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>
>
> The iPhotos library now has iphotos.migrated rather than iPhoto library.
>
>
> *Are you sure it is*  *iphotos.migrated*  *NOT - "iPhoto
> Library.migratedphotolibrary”?*
>
> If it is named "*iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary*"
> Double-Click on the* iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary* in Home >
> Pictures folder
>
> You should then see this message:
> 
> “*Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.*"
> You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new
> photos will not appear in the Photos app.
>  and the 'Open Photos’ button would be *BLUE* for you to *click. *
> *---*
>
> After a successful transition/Import/Update from ‘iPhoto' to 'Photos for
> OSX’ - you should have these two libraries in your *Home > Pictures
> folder*
> *iPhoto Library.photolibrary*
> *Photos Library.photoslibrary*
>
> Rosemary, as you have not answered the questions I've asked in my previous
> emails I'm really unable to help you any further.
> I can't guess what steps have been done and what files & library sizes etc
> are on the MacBook Pro or External Drive (or if the external drive is
> formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)’& “Ignore ownership on this volume”
> and everyone has read/write permission).
> And connected via a fast hard wired connection)  for me to be able to give
> advice and support.
>
> To help via email is difficult enough, without questions being answered
> and all relevant information being given to people who try to help, it is
> near impossible to advise how to correct 

Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Ronni Brown]

Hello Rosemary,

My comments in Situ below:

> On 18 Sep 2015, at 10:20 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi there Ronni,
> ​I'm sorry I took so long to get back with a report.
> 
> 
> Finally got my hands on RJ's computer! ​(he's a writer, it's very hard to get 
> it out of his hands)
> 
> I did repair permissions on his local and external drive.
> 
>  ​I ​also ​re-did the repair disk on the usb backup disk, and the boot to 
> Recovery on his new hard drive on his MacBook Pro.​ ​
> 
> Some of the problem ​must have been because with updating his computer he 
> didn't have any version of iPhoto on his computer​. We re-loaded that and 
> re-did the convert to Photos app.​

You can't update an Application if the Application is not already installed.
> 
> ​Now there is iPhoto Library.photolibrary​ and ​Photos Library.photoslibrary​ 
> on the external drive​.

That is correct.
> 
> F​iles ​& library sizes etc are on the ​e​xternal ​d​rive​ for Photos and 
> iPhoto are similar​. (though not identical)

That is correct. So the iPhoto Library is there and also the Photos Library

Hard Facts about Hard Links
On import, Photos makes a Hard Link to all iPhoto media assets in its own 
library package, using the same directory structure as iPhoto (The libraries 
say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re sharing disk space via 
hard links).
Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than existing in one 
place with an alias in a different location, files that are 'hard linked' 
appear to live in two places at once, but only take up the space of a single 
file.

Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it in 
Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do anything new 
with that library in Aperture or iPhoto, it won't carry over to the Photos 
version).

> ​
> The ​external drive ​wa​s formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled​)​
> And ​it was ​connected ​with ​the (not particularly fast) usb ​connection​ 
> that came with the hard drive (seagate)​
> 
> ​The ownership was greyed out on the volume,  There was no place to add him. 
> Where would I select  "ignore ownership"?

1.  Connect the external drive to MBP, then click to select it (highlight the 
drive icon)
2. Go to: File > Get Info (Command-I)
3. Click the arrow beside ‘Sharing & Permissions’ to show the complete window
Under 'you can read and write'
Name:   Privilege
(me)Read & Write
staff   Read & Write
everyoneRead & Write
4. At the bottom right in the window you will see a ‘Lock’ 
5. Click on the Lock - type in the Administrator password
6. Tick “Ignore ownership on this volume"
7. Click the lock again to lock

> I added him to all the folders.​
I’m not sure what you mean here... What folders & where?
> 
> ​Unfortunately with the change from his old to "new" computer ​or the move 
> from the external hard disc the photos have disappeared. The structure is 
> still there but they only show up as grey boxes in Photo...and iPhoto. I did 
> an investigation on package contents and there are no photos in any of the 
> folders!

Don't go fiddling around in the Libraries. The file sizes you mention of both 
Libraries indicate the photos are there but not visible.

Make the above changes on the external drive, then open iPhoto.app and see if 
it locates the iPhoto Library on the external drive and eventually shows images 
(give it plenty of time to populate the photos)
Then open Photos.app and test it as well.

Post back with your results please.
I will be busy with clients for the rest of today and most of the week-end. But 
will check WAMUG messages when possible.

Cheers,
Ronni

> There certainly were at one point...but when that was is a little hazy, 
> certainly before his computer was re-done.
> 
> I tried to find an old fully functioning version of iPhoto from Time Machine, 
> but was very tricky as I'm not sure how far back it was working. RJ is very 
> hazy about that.
> 
> Also when I did find a folder in TM that looked hopeful there is a problem 
> with ownership, and though I tried to give him read/write permission it took 
> forever and seemed to timeout!...at which point RJ grabbed the computer back!​
> 
> I know most of the photos will be in a folder organised by Picasa "Imported 
> from iPhoto" because iPhoto was flaky. 
> They will have to be added folder by folder as you can't seem to import from 
> within folders!
> 
> A job for another day!
> 
> Thanks for all the help!
> 
> Cheers
> Rosemary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 27 July 2015, Ronni Brown > 
> wrote:
> Hi Rosemary,
> 
> My comments coloured purple in Situ below
> 
>> On 26 Jul 2015, at 5:07 pm, Rosemary Spark > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> Just asking ...why would I do a re-boot into Recovery when the Photos 
>> library is on the external drive?
> 
> Why?:
> Because the 

Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Ronda Brown]

Did you do do what I mentioned first -
Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command + R keys held down), 
select Disk Utility and Repair permissions and Repair Disk.  
Reboot normally and try Photos again.?

Is it a USB3 external drive?
iPhoto worked perfectly immediately before doing the migration from the 
external to Photos?

What iPhoto  Photos libraries are now listed in his Pictures folder  what 
file size are each?
1. Photos Library.photoslibrary
2. iPhoto Library.photolibrary
If they are similar file sizes, do the images display correctly in iPhoto if 
you double-click the  iPhoto Library.photolibrary?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:40 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 No amount of clicking will make the photos appear.
 The backup drive is via usb
 
 Cheers
 Rosemary
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
 
 
 On 20 July 2015 at 07:00, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hello Rosemary,
 
 Also, depending on the speed of reading  writing of your husband's MBP from 
 the external drive that holds the iPhoto Library being imported  upgraded 
 to Photos.
 It can take quite some time for the library to fully load for the first 
 time. 
 A lot of activity is going on - as well as Spotlight reindexing in the 
 background.
 
 If you click on any of the blank images do they open and display the photo?
 It might just need more time to populate all the images. 
 
 Is your husband's external drive a thunderbolt connection?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:55 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Rosemary,
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid 
 procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does. 
  
 A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the 
 Command + R keys held down), select Disk Utility and Repair permissions 
 and Repair Disk.  
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
 
 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:05 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My husband's computer and mine are very similar
 Both running Yosemite 10.10.4
 Both Macbook Pro 2012. His is 13in mine 15in.
 We both had an iphoto library on separate external hard drives.
 With each opened I opened Photos and pointed to the iphoto library on the 
 external drive
 Both seemed to run the same way.
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 Mine is fine, all photos present and correct
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 His Photos has dates and grey boxes, lots and lots of grey boxes! For both 
 photos and thumbnails.
 The only ones he can see is the Photostream.
 No sign of either thumbnails or photos.
 
 I did a re-build to no effect.
 
 Any suggestions?
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Rosemary Spark]

Hi Ronni,
Just asking ...why would I do a re-boot into Recovery when the Photos
library is on the external drive?

Since all this happened he had to completely clean off his computer ( it
was filling up space when he was doing nothing...one of the reasons I took
off his photos)

So he has a clean drive... and he no longer has iPhoto app on it.

The iPhotos library now has iphotos.migrated rather than iPhoto library.


Cheers

Rosemary





Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 8 94336609
Mobile: 0414268043
arkaysp...@gmail.com

On 26 July 2015 at 15:05, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Did you do do what I mentioned first -
 Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command + R keys held down),
 select Disk Utility and Repair permissions and Repair Disk.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.?

 Is it a USB3 external drive?
 iPhoto worked perfectly immediately before doing the migration from the
 external to Photos?

 What iPhoto  Photos libraries are now listed in his Pictures folder 
 what file size are each?
 1. *Photos Library.photoslibrary*
 2. *iPhoto Library.photolibrary*
 If they are similar file sizes, do the images display correctly in iPhoto
 if you double-click the  *iPhoto Library.photolibrary*?

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:40 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 No amount of clicking will make the photos appear.
 The backup drive is via usb

 Cheers
 Rosemary

 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com

 On 20 July 2015 at 07:00, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Rosemary,

 Also, depending on the speed of reading  writing of your husband's MBP
 from the external drive that holds the iPhoto Library being imported 
 upgraded to Photos.
 It can take quite some time for the library to fully load for the first
 time.
 A lot of activity is going on - as well as Spotlight reindexing in the
 background.

 If you click on any of the blank images do they open and display the
 photo?
 It might just need more time to populate all the images.

 Is your husband's external drive a thunderbolt connection?

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:55 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Rosemary,

 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid
 procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does.


 A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the
 Command + R keys held down), select Disk Utility and Repair permissions
 and Repair Disk.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2

 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:05 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:

 My husband's computer and mine are very similar
 Both running Yosemite 10.10.4
 Both Macbook Pro 2012. His is 13in mine 15in.
 We both had an iphoto library on separate external hard drives.
 With each opened I opened Photos and pointed to the iphoto library on the
 external drive
 Both seemed to run the same way.
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 Mine is fine, all photos present and correct
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 His Photos has dates and grey boxes, lots and lots of grey boxes! For
 both photos and thumbnails.
 The only ones he can see is the Photostream.
 No sign of either thumbnails or photos.

 I did a re-build to no effect.

 Any suggestions?

 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com


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Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Rosemary,

My comments coloured purple in Situ below

 On 26 Jul 2015, at 5:07 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 Just asking ...why would I do a re-boot into Recovery when the Photos library 
 is on the external drive?

Why?:
Because the MacBook Pro has the iPhoto  Photos applications, Preferences,  
Hard Links to all media assets in the iPhoto  Photos Libraries that are on the 
external drive.

(Actually I would have done a Repair Disk  Repair Disk Permissions on both 
the Internal Disk  the External Drive). 
 
 Since all this happened he had to completely clean off his computer ( it was 
 filling up space when he was doing nothing...one of the reasons I took off 
 his photos) 

A reason to have done a 'Repair Disk'  'Repair Disk Permissions' before.
 
 So he has a clean drive... and he no longer has iPhoto app on it.

Photos for OS X requires iPhoto v9.6.1 to be able to make the 
transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.

 
 The iPhotos library now has iphotos.migrated rather than iPhoto library.

Are you sure it is  iphotos.migrated  NOT - iPhoto 
Library.migratedphotolibrary”?

If it is named iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary
Double-Click on the iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary in Home  Pictures 
folder 

You should then see this message:

“Your photo library has been migrated to Photos. 
You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos 
will not appear in the Photos app.
 and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
---

After a successful transition/Import/Update from ‘iPhoto' to 'Photos for OSX’ - 
you should have these two libraries in your Home  Pictures folder
iPhoto Library.photolibrary
Photos Library.photoslibrary

Rosemary, as you have not answered the questions I've asked in my previous 
emails I'm really unable to help you any further.
I can't guess what steps have been done and what files  library sizes etc are 
on the MacBook Pro or External Drive (or if the external drive is formatted 
'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)’ “Ignore ownership on this volume” and everyone 
has read/write permission).
And connected via a fast hard wired connection)  for me to be able to give 
advice and support.

To help via email is difficult enough, without questions being answered and all 
relevant information being given to people who try to help, it is near 
impossible to advise how to correct the problem.

Cheers,
Ronni


 
 
 Cheers
 
 Rosemary
 
 
 
 
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com mailto:arkaysp...@gmail.com
 On 26 July 2015 at 15:05, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com mailto:ro...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Did you do do what I mentioned first -
 Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command + R keys held down), 
 select Disk Utility and Repair permissions and Repair Disk.  
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.?
 
 Is it a USB3 external drive?
 iPhoto worked perfectly immediately before doing the migration from the 
 external to Photos?
 
 What iPhoto  Photos libraries are now listed in his Pictures folder  what 
 file size are each?
 1. Photos Library.photoslibrary
 2. iPhoto Library.photolibrary
 If they are similar file sizes, do the images display correctly in iPhoto if 
 you double-click the  iPhoto Library.photolibrary?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:40 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com 
 mailto:arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 No amount of clicking will make the photos appear.
 The backup drive is via usb
 
 Cheers
 Rosemary
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609 tel:%2B%2061%208%2094336609
 Mobile: 0414268043 tel:0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com mailto:arkaysp...@gmail.com
 On 20 July 2015 at 07:00, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com mailto:ro...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Hello Rosemary,
 
 Also, depending on the speed of reading  writing of your husband's MBP from 
 the external drive that holds the iPhoto Library being imported  upgraded 
 to Photos.
 It can take quite some time for the library to fully load for the first 
 time. 
 A lot of activity is going on - as well as Spotlight reindexing in the 
 background.
 
 If you click on any of the blank images do they open and display the photo?
 It might just need more time to populate all the images. 
 
 Is your husband's external drive a thunderbolt connection?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:55 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Rosemary,
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid 
 procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does. 
  
 A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the 
 Command + R keys held down), select Disk 

Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Rosemary Spark]

Hi Ronni,
No amount of clicking will make the photos appear.
The backup drive is via usb

Cheers
Rosemary

Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 8 94336609
Mobile: 0414268043
arkaysp...@gmail.com

On 20 July 2015 at 07:00, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Rosemary,

 Also, depending on the speed of reading  writing of your husband's MBP
 from the external drive that holds the iPhoto Library being imported 
 upgraded to Photos.
 It can take quite some time for the library to fully load for the first
 time.
 A lot of activity is going on - as well as Spotlight reindexing in the
 background.

 If you click on any of the blank images do they open and display the photo?
 It might just need more time to populate all the images.

 Is your husband's external drive a thunderbolt connection?

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:55 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Rosemary,

 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid
 procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does.


 A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the
 Command + R keys held down), select Disk Utility and Repair permissions
 and Repair Disk.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2

 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:05 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:

 My husband's computer and mine are very similar
 Both running Yosemite 10.10.4
 Both Macbook Pro 2012. His is 13in mine 15in.
 We both had an iphoto library on separate external hard drives.
 With each opened I opened Photos and pointed to the iphoto library on the
 external drive
 Both seemed to run the same way.
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 Mine is fine, all photos present and correct
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 His Photos has dates and grey boxes, lots and lots of grey boxes! For both
 photos and thumbnails.
 The only ones he can see is the Photostream.
 No sign of either thumbnails or photos.

 I did a re-build to no effect.

 Any suggestions?

 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com


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Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Ronni Brown]

Hello Rosemary,

The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid 
procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does. 
 
A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command + 
R keys held down), select Disk Utility and Repair permissions and Repair 
Disk.  
Reboot normally and try Photos again.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X Yosemite 10.10.2

 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:05 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My husband's computer and mine are very similar
 Both running Yosemite 10.10.4
 Both Macbook Pro 2012. His is 13in mine 15in.
 We both had an iphoto library on separate external hard drives.
 With each opened I opened Photos and pointed to the iphoto library on the 
 external drive
 Both seemed to run the same way.
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 Mine is fine, all photos present and correct
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 His Photos has dates and grey boxes, lots and lots of grey boxes! For both 
 photos and thumbnails.
 The only ones he can see is the Photostream.
 No sign of either thumbnails or photos.
 
 I did a re-build to no effect.
 
 Any suggestions?
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609 tel:%2B%2061%208%2094336609
 Mobile: 0414268043 tel:0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com mailto:arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: iphoto to photos problem

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Rosemary,

Also, depending on the speed of reading  writing of your husband's MBP from 
the external drive that holds the iPhoto Library being imported  upgraded to 
Photos.
It can take quite some time for the library to fully load for the first time. 
A lot of activity is going on - as well as Spotlight reindexing in the 
background.

If you click on any of the blank images do they open and display the photo?
It might just need more time to populate all the images. 

Is your husband's external drive a thunderbolt connection?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:55 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Rosemary,
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific first aid 
 procedure to rebuild thumbnails like iPhoto does. 
  
 A long shot would be to Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command 
 + R keys held down), select Disk Utility and Repair permissions and Repair 
 Disk.  
 Reboot normally and try Photos again.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
 
 On 19 Jul 2015, at 2:05 pm, Rosemary Spark arkaysp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My husband's computer and mine are very similar
 Both running Yosemite 10.10.4
 Both Macbook Pro 2012. His is 13in mine 15in.
 We both had an iphoto library on separate external hard drives.
 With each opened I opened Photos and pointed to the iphoto library on the 
 external drive
 Both seemed to run the same way.
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 Mine is fine, all photos present and correct
 He now has iPhoto migrated, and Photos folder.
 His Photos has dates and grey boxes, lots and lots of grey boxes! For both 
 photos and thumbnails.
 The only ones he can see is the Photostream.
 No sign of either thumbnails or photos.
 
 I did a re-build to no effect.
 
 Any suggestions?
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 8 94336609
 Mobile: 0414268043
 arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Users, just wanted to close this out. I messed up with my iPhoto to Photos 
migration. Basically, unless you allow it to complete the process of its own 
accord, then potential for it to come unstuck. I did a cleaning step in between 
the migration and corrupted it beyond a known repair.

Anyway, wha I did with ronni's help was to extract the Master images folder 
from within the iPhotos Package onto an external drive, then made space on my 
wife's MBP, then imported the images from the Masters folder back into a NEW 
Photos library file. It took a while, but eventually, all 38,000 dd photos into 
a new library. A bit of metadata missing, but they seem to still be stacked 
chronologically.

An end to a near divorce saga. But all is restored now.

Regards


Pete

 On 18 May 2015, at 8:54 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok noted Ronnie. I got a 2TB drive in readiness for this and clean formatted. 
 
 I won't go near SQLite db.
 
 I go back on Friday morning so can probably get back in business by then.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete. 
 
 
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Ronni Brown
 Date:18/05/2015 07:51 (GMT+08:00)
 To: WAMUG
 Subject: Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 I will get back to you when it is at possible with more detail BUT DON'T 
 try the fix you mentioned from apple discussions below!!! 
 Remain very aware that you DO NOT have any BACKUP of your wife's Library. 
 You ONLY have a corrupted iPhoto Library file... that iPhoto  iPhoto Library 
 Manager were unable to rebuild... and NO backup if things go wrong  they can 
 go horribly wrong!
 
 From what you have told us, CleanMyMac2 (with User help) did a real job of 
 corrupting her iPhoto Library... the iPhoto Library is a SQLite database and 
 can not be modified.  Goodness knows what system files it deleted or changed 
 as well?
 
 The only chance you have of saving your wife's photos now I feel is to Create 
 a NEW iPhoto Library from the Masters folder.
  But you can't just do that with the current iPhoto Library and iPhoto 
 situation on her MBP, we will need to move things and start fresh.
 I will get back with details how to go about this, I will have to take it 
 Off-List as I'll send you detailed instructions document.
 
 First I need you to get a clean External Drive and Format it OS X Extended 
 (Journaled) and GUID Partition Table.
 If you require details how to do this post back  I'll send you details.
 
 OK, I'll get back to you offlist as soon as I am able to. How many days 
 before you go back to work?
 I'm off to a client now, but will check my email when possible  get back to 
 your problem when possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 4:11 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Another thought, if I take a Copy of the “Masters” folder out to an external 
 drive, Create a New iPhoto library (in the Pictures folder) and then Import 
 from the “Masters” copying sitting off the hard disc, will that retrieve the 
 images back into the new library? (I’d have to park the current if and 
 Photos libraries off the hard disc for space reasons but, my Wife is not big 
 on metadata, Faces is too much for her, all that would really matter is the 
 original import date information (or JPG file date information) which is 
 defined by the folder name the JPG’s reside in. Picture edits have been near 
 nil the entire life of her storing photos so wouldn’t matter - maybe a dozen 
 redeye reductions.
 
 Another hit found this. This guy here may be going too far for me to 
 implement a fix - but reads similar to my problem, even if the cause was 
 different.
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Severin Crisp]

Thank goodness for that Pete!  You can go back to Roy Hill on Thursday with a 
clear conscience!   I assume you have already made a second backup copy, other 
than Time Machine!  
As usual, tributes to Ronni!
Dad



 On 19 May 2015, at 9:36 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Users, just wanted to close this out. I messed up with my iPhoto to Photos 
 migration. Basically, unless you allow it to complete the process of its own 
 accord, then potential for it to come unstuck. I did a cleaning step in 
 between the migration and corrupted it beyond a known repair.
 
 Anyway, wha I did with ronni's help was to extract the Master images folder 
 from within the iPhotos Package onto an external drive, then made space on my 
 wife's MBP, then imported the images from the Masters folder back into a NEW 
 Photos library file. It took a while, but eventually, all 38,000 dd photos 
 into a new library. A bit of metadata missing, but they seem to still be 
 stacked chronologically.
 
 An end to a near divorce saga. But all is restored now.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 18 May 2015, at 8:54 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok noted Ronnie. I got a 2TB drive in readiness for this and clean 
 formatted. 
 
 I won't go near SQLite db.
 
 I go back on Friday morning so can probably get back in business by then.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete. 
 
 
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Ronni Brown
 Date:18/05/2015 07:51 (GMT+08:00)
 To: WAMUG
 Subject: Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 I will get back to you when it is at possible with more detail BUT DON'T 
 try the fix you mentioned from apple discussions below!!! 
 Remain very aware that you DO NOT have any BACKUP of your wife's Library. 
 You ONLY have a corrupted iPhoto Library file... that iPhoto  iPhoto 
 Library Manager were unable to rebuild... and NO backup if things go wrong  
 they can go horribly wrong!
 
 From what you have told us, CleanMyMac2 (with User help) did a real job of 
 corrupting her iPhoto Library... the iPhoto Library is a SQLite database and 
 can not be modified.  Goodness knows what system files it deleted or changed 
 as well?
 
 The only chance you have of saving your wife's photos now I feel is to 
 Create a NEW iPhoto Library from the Masters folder.
  But you can't just do that with the current iPhoto Library and iPhoto 
 situation on her MBP, we will need to move things and start fresh.
 I will get back with details how to go about this, I will have to take it 
 Off-List as I'll send you detailed instructions document.
 
 First I need you to get a clean External Drive and Format it OS X Extended 
 (Journaled) and GUID Partition Table.
 If you require details how to do this post back  I'll send you details.
 
 OK, I'll get back to you offlist as soon as I am able to. How many days 
 before you go back to work?
 I'm off to a client now, but will check my email when possible  get back to 
 your problem when possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 4:11 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Another thought, if I take a Copy of the “Masters” folder out to an 
 external drive, Create a New iPhoto library (in the Pictures folder) and 
 then Import from the “Masters” copying sitting off the hard disc, will that 
 retrieve the images back into the new library? (I’d have to park the 
 current if and Photos libraries off the hard disc for space reasons but, my 
 Wife is not big on metadata, Faces is too much for her, all that would 
 really matter is the original import date information (or JPG file date 
 information) which is defined by the folder name the JPG’s reside in. 
 Picture edits have been near nil the entire life of her storing photos so 
 wouldn’t matter - maybe a dozen redeye reductions.
 
 Another hit found this. This guy here may be going too far for me to 
 implement a fix - but reads similar to my problem, even if the cause was 
 different.
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0
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15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Ok, I installed the iPhoto Library Manager and asked it to “Rebuild”. The 
following Log Error reported - exactly as copied.

015-05-17 14:51:45.626 iPhoto Library Manager 4.2.1; iPhoto 9.6.1; OS X 
10.10.3; registered
2015-05-17 14:51:45.649 Rebuilding library /Users/joannecrisp/Pictures/iPhoto 
Library.photolibrary
2015-05-17 14:51:45.649 Rebuilt library located at 
/Users/joannecrisp/Pictures/Default Library (rebuilt).photolibrary
2015-05-17 14:51:45.654 Building preview…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.688 Photo transfer settings: source libraries = 
/Users/joannecrisp/Pictures/iPhoto Library.photolibrary, copy faces = true, 
copy places = true, combine album contents = false, photo attributes copied = 
(comment, date, flagged, hidden, latitude, longitude, name, rating)
2015-05-17 14:51:45.689 Loading data for library 
/Users/joannecrisp/Pictures/iPhoto Library.photolibrary…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.708 Version number: 9.6.1
2015-05-17 14:51:45.708 An error occurred: Trying to load database for library 
“/Users/joannecrisp/Pictures/iPhoto Library.photolibrary” failed. Some 
information such as faces, places, and edit history may not be transferred 
succesfully. (error = Error Domain=PLDatabaseErrorDomain Code=1 The SQLite 
database file could not be found. UserInfo=0x60477e00 
{PLDatabaseErrorVendorErrorKey=14, PLDatabaseErrorVendorStringKey=unable to 
open database file, NSLocalizedDescription=The SQLite database file could not 
be found.})
2015-05-17 14:51:45.968 Version number: 9.6.1
2015-05-17 14:51:45.969 Loaded 0 keywords…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.969 Loaded 0 face names…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.970 Loaded 0 places…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.970 Loading photos…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.970 Loaded 0 photos
2015-05-17 14:51:45.974 Loaded 0 events…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.975 0 photos in the trash
2015-05-17 14:51:45.978 Loaded 1 albums…
2015-05-17 14:51:45.986 Loading photo data…
2015-05-17 14:51:46.272 Generating preview…
2015-05-17 14:51:46.272 Transferred 0 photos to preview
2015-05-17 14:51:46.277 Updating smart album “Flagged” in preview
2015-05-17 14:51:46.290 Updating smart album “Last 12 Months” in preview
2015-05-17 14:51:46.299 No photos were imported
1 error occurred during the transfer
2015-05-17 14:51:46.299 Search for the word error to find any errors that 
occurred during the transfer
2015-05-17 14:51:46.301 Displaying error 0: Rebuild complete, No photos were 
imported
1 error occurred during the transfer

Looks like the The SQLite database file could not be found and this stops it 
from going anywhere. Not sure this helps at all.

Regards

Pete.



 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did things,  
 fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically check your 
 computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos 
 App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no photos 
 showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which 
 says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation 
 was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I 
 ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before 
 OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), 
 perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto 
 library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then tested the 
 operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its 
 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Another thought, if I take a Copy of the “Masters” folder out to an external 
drive, Create a New iPhoto library (in the Pictures folder) and then Import 
from the “Masters” copying sitting off the hard disc, will that retrieve the 
images back into the new library? (I’d have to park the current if and Photos 
libraries off the hard disc for space reasons but, my Wife is not big on 
metadata, Faces is too much for her, all that would really matter is the 
original import date information (or JPG file date information) which is 
defined by the folder name the JPG’s reside in. Picture edits have been near 
nil the entire life of her storing photos so wouldn’t matter - maybe a dozen 
redeye reductions.

Another hit found this. This guy here may be going too far for me to implement 
a fix - but reads similar to my problem, even if the cause was different.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0

Regards

Pete.



 On 17 May 2015, at 8:31 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
 Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the 
 albums sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
 Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this 
 and no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images.
 I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
 Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events 
 open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random.
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid 
 procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does.
 
 Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R 
 keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair 
 Disk'.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open 
 Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior.
 
 I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in 
 theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross 
 mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended 
 use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record 
 for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and 
 occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in 
 Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them 
 with? She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto 
 and Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, but 
 I don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive 
 lengths gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating.
 
 I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - 
 All Photos -Faces etc FYI.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok see below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see 
 the dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
 What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, 
 the iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the 
 dialogue back which says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 In the Pictures folder do you have Aperture Library.aplibrary
 If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the Pictures 
 folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did 
 things,  fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically 
 check your computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it 
 runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after 
 that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched 
 Photos App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no 
 photos showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hello Peter,

I will get back to you when it is at possible with more detail BUT DON'T 
try the fix you mentioned from apple discussions below!!! 
Remain very aware that you DO NOT have any BACKUP of your wife's Library. 
You ONLY have a corrupted iPhoto Library file... that iPhoto  iPhoto Library 
Manager were unable to rebuild... and NO backup if things go wrong  they can 
go horribly wrong!

From what you have told us, CleanMyMac2 (with User help) did a real job of 
corrupting her iPhoto Library... the iPhoto Library is a SQLite database and 
can not be modified.  Goodness knows what system files it deleted or changed as 
well?

The only chance you have of saving your wife's photos now I feel is to Create a 
NEW iPhoto Library from the Masters folder.
 But you can't just do that with the current iPhoto Library and iPhoto 
situation on her MBP, we will need to move things and start fresh.
I will get back with details how to go about this, I will have to take it 
Off-List as I'll send you detailed instructions document.

First I need you to get a clean External Drive and Format it OS X Extended 
(Journaled) and GUID Partition Table.
If you require details how to do this post back  I'll send you details.

OK, I'll get back to you offlist as soon as I am able to. How many days before 
you go back to work?
I'm off to a client now, but will check my email when possible  get back to 
your problem when possible.

Cheers,
Ronni



 On 17 May 2015, at 4:11 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Another thought, if I take a Copy of the “Masters” folder out to an external 
 drive, Create a New iPhoto library (in the Pictures folder) and then Import 
 from the “Masters” copying sitting off the hard disc, will that retrieve the 
 images back into the new library? (I’d have to park the current if and Photos 
 libraries off the hard disc for space reasons but, my Wife is not big on 
 metadata, Faces is too much for her, all that would really matter is the 
 original import date information (or JPG file date information) which is 
 defined by the folder name the JPG’s reside in. Picture edits have been near 
 nil the entire life of her storing photos so wouldn’t matter - maybe a dozen 
 redeye reductions.
 
 Another hit found this. This guy here may be going too far for me to 
 implement a fix - but reads similar to my problem, even if the cause was 
 different.
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3216539?tstart=0
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Ok see below.

Regards


Pete

 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see the 
 dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
 What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, the 
 iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the 
 dialogue back which says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 In the Pictures folder do you have Aperture Library.aplibrary
 If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the Pictures 
 folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did things, 
  fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically check your 
 computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos 
 App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no photos 
 showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which 
 says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation 
 was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I 
 ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before 
 OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), 
 perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto 
 library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then tested the 
 operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its 
 intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto 
 library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' front end to back end 
 connection as the locations of the files in the mapping table is wrong?
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate 
 the update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or 
 corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you 
 then relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... 
 did that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your 
 Photos, Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos 
 or AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - 
 Photos Library.photoslibrary
 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 
 
 Let me know your results please.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the 
 iPhoto or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see 
 the contents and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date 
 hierarchy and in turn the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so 
 they are there! It seems the mapping from the app front end for both 
 iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the albums 
sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? 
I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
Can you open any image under Albums in the Side?

The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid 
procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does.

Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R keys 
down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair Disk'.
Reboot normally and try Photos again.

I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - All 
Photos -Faces etc FYI.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok see below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see the 
 dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
 What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, 
 the iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the 
 dialogue back which says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 In the Pictures folder do you have Aperture Library.aplibrary
 If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the Pictures 
 folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did 
 things,  fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically 
 check your computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos 
 App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no photos 
 showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which 
 says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation 
 was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say 
 I ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run 
 before OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX 
 update ran), perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed 
 the iPhoto library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then 
 tested the operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos 
 (with its intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established with the 
 iPhoto library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' front end to 
 back end connection as the locations of the files in the mapping table is 
 wrong?
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate 
 the update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or 
 corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you 
 then relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures 
 folder... did that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it 
 show all your Photos, Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to 
 Photos or AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses.

Regards


Pete

 On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
 Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the 
 albums sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
 Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this and 
 no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images.
 I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
 Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events 
 open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random.
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid 
 procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does.
 
 Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R 
 keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair 
 Disk'.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open 
 Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior.

I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in 
theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross 
mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended 
use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record 
for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and 
occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in 
Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them with? 
She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto and 
Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, but I 
don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive lengths 
gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating.
 
 I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - 
 All Photos -Faces etc FYI.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok see below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see the 
 dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
 What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, 
 the iPhoto library shows there (the only choice), when I choose I get the 
 dialogue back which says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 In the Pictures folder do you have Aperture Library.aplibrary
 If so what version is it? No, there is no Aperture library in the Pictures 
 folder. I've not installed Aperture on any of our 5 MBP's.
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did 
 things,  fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically 
 check your computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it 
 runs through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after 
 that, old iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched 
 Photos App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no 
 photos showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which 
 says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning 
 operation was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I 
 would say I ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning 
 was run before OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the 
 OSX update ran), perhaps 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original (working 
correctly) iPhoto Library. :(
You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external 
drive or something? 
I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for 
backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a external 
drive.

Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and 
this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains open 
and displays No images only blank gray albums -  Leave it open for all day.
The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be 
converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in the 
background, this could take many hours.

Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications.
Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting your 
library will be repaired window - click Repair 
After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many hours 
as possible overnight if you can...  and let's see what happens

Picasa:
I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it.
But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with your 
current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos.
From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, it 
simply scans your hard drive and displays the photos it finds. In this way, 
Picasa folders represent the actual directories containing photos on your Mac's 
hard drive.
Picasa handles the iPhoto Library in the same way, with a small variation made 
for the way the iPhoto Library organizes your photos: If you've made edits in 
iPhoto, each album or event in your iPhoto Library contains an 'Originals' 
folder and a 'Modified' folder. Picasa scans the photos and videos in both the 
'Originals' and 'Modified' folders, and displays a single collective folder 
with the most recent version of each file.

The photos in your iPhoto Library will be displayed in the 'iPhoto Library' 
collection as 'Read-Only' files. The Read-Only status is necessary to ensure 
that Picasa and iPhoto work well together.
By default, Picasa for Mac will look for your iPhoto Library in Pictures  
iPhoto Library.

Let us know how you get on please.
Best of luck.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 17 May 2015, at 8:31 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
 Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the 
 albums sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
 Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this 
 and no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images.
 I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
 Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events 
 open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random.
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid 
 procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does.
 
 Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R 
 keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair 
 Disk'.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open 
 Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior.
 
 I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in 
 theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross 
 mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended 
 use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record 
 for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and 
 occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in 
 Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them 
 with? She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto 
 and Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, but 
 I don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive 
 lengths gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating.
 
 I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - 
 All Photos -Faces etc FYI.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok see below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see 
 the dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
 What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'. Yes, 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Sorry Peter for calling you 'Chris' below... that is another problem I'm 
working on :(

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 17 May 2015, at 11:18 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original (working 
 correctly) iPhoto Library. :(
 You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external 
 drive or something? 
 I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for 
 backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a 
 external drive.
 
 Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and 
 this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains 
 open and displays No images only blank gray albums -  Leave it open for 
 all day.
 The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be 
 converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in 
 the background, this could take many hours.
 
 Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications.
 Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting 
 your library will be repaired window - click Repair 
 After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many 
 hours as possible overnight if you can...  and let's see what happens
 
 Picasa:
 I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it.
 But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with your 
 current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos.
 From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, it 
 simply scans your hard drive and displays the photos it finds. In this way, 
 Picasa folders represent the actual directories containing photos on your 
 Mac's hard drive.
 Picasa handles the iPhoto Library in the same way, with a small variation 
 made for the way the iPhoto Library organizes your photos: If you've made 
 edits in iPhoto, each album or event in your iPhoto Library contains an 
 'Originals' folder and a 'Modified' folder. Picasa scans the photos and 
 videos in both the 'Originals' and 'Modified' folders, and displays a single 
 collective folder with the most recent version of each file.
 
 The photos in your iPhoto Library will be displayed in the 'iPhoto Library' 
 collection as 'Read-Only' files. The Read-Only status is necessary to ensure 
 that Picasa and iPhoto work well together.
 By default, Picasa for Mac will look for your iPhoto Library in Pictures  
 iPhoto Library.
 
 Let us know how you get on please.
 Best of luck.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 8:31 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
 Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the 
 albums sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
 Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this 
 and no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images.
 I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
 Can you open any image under Albums in the Side? None of the iPhoto events 
 open any images, I tried about 6 or 8 of them at random.
 
 The thumbnails are damaged and Photos doesn't have a specific First Aid 
 procedure to Rebuild Thumbnails like iPhoto does.
 
 Something worth doing is - Boot the MBP into Recovery Volume (Command + R 
 keys down). Select Disk Utility and 'Repair Disk Permissions' and 'Repair 
 Disk'.
 Reboot normally and try Photos again. I tried this and then reboot and open 
 Photos - still no joy, all as it was prior.
 
 I was contemplating a third party photo manger like Picasa or Lyn. I know in 
 theory the iPhoto and Photos pair of apps is a good thing and cleverly cross 
 mapped and I am in this pickle due to my own actions, but given the intended 
 use of the photos for my wife (she doesn't edit, just wants to keep a record 
 for posterity and have an easy to use program for viewing her pics and 
 occasional emailing of one or two), the photos are all nicely configured in 
 Year/Month/Day folders, does it really matter what front end to view them 
 with? She certainly has no desire to have two photo viewing programs (iPhoto 
 and Photos) I know that might be defeatist in reaching a point like this, 
 but I don't want to waste any more of your time given the fairly exhaustive 
 lengths gone to so far. I haven't done this yet,merely contemplating.
 
 I'll send you 'off-list' a screenshot of my opened Photos showing Albums - 
 All Photos -Faces etc FYI.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 2:16 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok see below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 1:37 pm, Ronda Brown 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, no worries about the Chris thing. I've been called that and more and 
my wife gets the same too.

Sorry, there is no backup. Another lesson learnt there, With 5 of us in the 
house and Time Machine I've been ok with that. I should have cloned prior to 
the update. :(((

What I was considering with a third party photo app was to Move the iPhoto 
and Photos libraries off the hard disc (for making space and storage purposes 
and perhaps a later rectify attempt) onto an external drive to make some space, 
then take a Copy of the Masters folder from within the iPhoto Package back 
into the Pictures folder on the Hard disc of my Wife's MBP. Unmount the 
external drive. Then, install Picasa (or Lyn) and it will scan the Masters 
folder which contains all the original images in the Year/Month/Day folder 
structure as created by iPhoto at the time of original import. I direct Picasa 
to Import to the Masters folder for any future imports off the phone or 
camera. I use Picasa on my work computer (Windows) and familiar with it's 
operation and importing from phone (Android as required by employer). 

I have held off doing this (Picasa) as I am doing as you suggested below as a 
final attempt, I did another Repair of the Photos library and currently it's 
sitting there and maybe indexing in the background. A worthwhile attempt. I 
will leave it till tomorrow before resigning to next step.

I use Picasa as previously indicated but also aware of Lyn as a Mac specific 
photo management software. Have you or anyone had any experience with that one? 
It reads well over a small number of reviews.

Regards


Pete

 On 17 May 2015, at 11:33 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Peter for calling you 'Chris' below... that is another problem I'm 
 working on :(
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 11:18 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original (working 
 correctly) iPhoto Library. :(
 You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external 
 drive or something? 
 I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for 
 backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a 
 external drive.
 
 Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and 
 this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains 
 open and displays No images only blank gray albums -  Leave it open for 
 all day.
 The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be 
 converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in 
 the background, this could take many hours.
 
 Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications.
 Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting 
 your library will be repaired window - click Repair 
 After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many 
 hours as possible overnight if you can...  and let's see what happens
 
 Picasa:
 I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it.
 But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with 
 your current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos.
 From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, 
 it simply scans your hard drive and displays the photos it finds. In this 
 way, Picasa folders represent the actual directories containing photos on 
 your Mac's hard drive.
 Picasa handles the iPhoto Library in the same way, with a small variation 
 made for the way the iPhoto Library organizes your photos: If you've made 
 edits in iPhoto, each album or event in your iPhoto Library contains an 
 'Originals' folder and a 'Modified' folder. Picasa scans the photos and 
 videos in both the 'Originals' and 'Modified' folders, and displays a single 
 collective folder with the most recent version of each file.
 
 The photos in your iPhoto Library will be displayed in the 'iPhoto Library' 
 collection as 'Read-Only' files. The Read-Only status is necessary to ensure 
 that Picasa and iPhoto work well together.
 By default, Picasa for Mac will look for your iPhoto Library in Pictures  
 iPhoto Library.
 
 Let us know how you get on please.
 Best of luck.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 8:31 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni, See below underlined for responses.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 6:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 In the view menu of Photos be sure that the Sidebar is shown (View  Show 
 Sidebar) - iPhoto events have been converted into albums and are in the 
 albums sections in a folder named iPhoto events.
 Can you double-click on a 'greyed box' and see an image? Yes I tried this 
 and no images show, the header shows the Album folder name but no images.
 I know you mentioned before you see a white box after you click.
 Can 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Daniel Kerr]

Though I've followed some of this,..but must admit not following all of it and 
TL;DR (Too Long: Didn't Read) due to other things going on,…
Have you thought of perhaps trying something like iPhoto Library Manager, and 
letting it do a Recover of the Library to see what it comes up? (Rebuild 
Corrupted Library or Merge Libraries,…or a mixture of the two).
You'd need to do it to an external drive I'm guessing due to the large size of 
the library.
http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/

May be worth a go as a last resort,..or something different to try,…

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 6

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as 
such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any 
information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

On 17/05/2015, at 1:28 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni, no worries about the Chris thing. I've been called that and more 
 and my wife gets the same too.
 
 Sorry, there is no backup. Another lesson learnt there, With 5 of us in the 
 house and Time Machine I've been ok with that. I should have cloned prior to 
 the update. :(((
 
 What I was considering with a third party photo app was to Move the iPhoto 
 and Photos libraries off the hard disc (for making space and storage purposes 
 and perhaps a later rectify attempt) onto an external drive to make some 
 space, then take a Copy of the Masters folder from within the iPhoto 
 Package back into the Pictures folder on the Hard disc of my Wife's MBP. 
 Unmount the external drive. Then, install Picasa (or Lyn) and it will scan 
 the Masters folder which contains all the original images in the 
 Year/Month/Day folder structure as created by iPhoto at the time of original 
 import. I direct Picasa to Import to the Masters folder for any future 
 imports off the phone or camera. I use Picasa on my work computer (Windows) 
 and familiar with it's operation and importing from phone (Android as 
 required by employer). 
 
 I have held off doing this (Picasa) as I am doing as you suggested below as a 
 final attempt, I did another Repair of the Photos library and currently it's 
 sitting there and maybe indexing in the background. A worthwhile attempt. I 
 will leave it till tomorrow before resigning to next step.
 
 I use Picasa as previously indicated but also aware of Lyn as a Mac 
 specific photo management software. Have you or anyone had any experience 
 with that one? It reads well over a small number of reviews.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 11:33 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Peter for calling you 'Chris' below... that is another problem I'm 
 working on :(
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 11:18 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original 
 (working correctly) iPhoto Library. :(
 You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external 
 drive or something? 
 I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for 
 backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a 
 external drive.
 
 Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and 
 this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains 
 open and displays No images only blank gray albums -  Leave it open for 
 all day.
 The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be 
 converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in 
 the background, this could take many hours.
 
 Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications.
 Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting 
 your library will be repaired window - click Repair 
 After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many 
 hours as possible overnight if you can...  and let's see what happens
 
 Picasa:
 I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it.
 But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with 
 your current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos.
 From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, 
 it simply scans your hard drive and displays the photos it finds. In this 
 way, Picasa folders represent the actual directories containing photos on 
 your Mac's hard drive.
 Picasa handles the iPhoto Library in the same way, with a small variation 
 made for the way the iPhoto Library organizes your photos: If you've made 
 edits in iPhoto, each album or event in your iPhoto 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Daniel, I think I tried that a while back and I got the same aperture 
upgrade needed message. Will check again though. 

Regards

Pete. 




div Original message /divdivFrom: Daniel Kerr 
dan...@macwizardry.com.au /divdivDate:17/05/2015  13:34  (GMT+08:00) 
/divdivTo: wamug@wamug.org.au /divdivSubject: Re: iPhoto to Photos 
migration /divdiv
/divThough I've followed some of this,..but must admit not following all of 
it and TL;DR (Too Long: Didn't Read) due to other things going on,…
Have you thought of perhaps trying something like iPhoto Library Manager, and 
letting it do a Recover of the Library to see what it comes up? (Rebuild 
Corrupted Library or Merge Libraries,…or a mixture of the two).
You'd need to do it to an external drive I'm guessing due to the large size of 
the library.
http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/

May be worth a go as a last resort,..or something different to try,…

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 6

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as 
such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any 
information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

On 17/05/2015, at 1:28 PM, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni, no worries about the Chris thing. I've been called that and more 
 and my wife gets the same too.
 
 Sorry, there is no backup. Another lesson learnt there, With 5 of us in the 
 house and Time Machine I've been ok with that. I should have cloned prior to 
 the update. :(((
 
 What I was considering with a third party photo app was to Move the iPhoto 
 and Photos libraries off the hard disc (for making space and storage purposes 
 and perhaps a later rectify attempt) onto an external drive to make some 
 space, then take a Copy of the Masters folder from within the iPhoto 
 Package back into the Pictures folder on the Hard disc of my Wife's MBP. 
 Unmount the external drive. Then, install Picasa (or Lyn) and it will scan 
 the Masters folder which contains all the original images in the 
 Year/Month/Day folder structure as created by iPhoto at the time of original 
 import. I direct Picasa to Import to the Masters folder for any future 
 imports off the phone or camera. I use Picasa on my work computer (Windows) 
 and familiar with it's operation and importing from phone (Android as 
 required by employer). 
 
 I have held off doing this (Picasa) as I am doing as you suggested below as a 
 final attempt, I did another Repair of the Photos library and currently it's 
 sitting there and maybe indexing in the background. A worthwhile attempt. I 
 will leave it till tomorrow before resigning to next step.
 
 I use Picasa as previously indicated but also aware of Lyn as a Mac 
 specific photo management software. Have you or anyone had any experience 
 with that one? It reads well over a small number of reviews.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 11:33 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Peter for calling you 'Chris' below... that is another problem I'm 
 working on :(
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 17 May 2015, at 11:18 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 This is so disappointing - If only you had a backup of the original 
 (working correctly) iPhoto Library. :(
 You definitely don't have any backup of this iPhoto Library on an external 
 drive or something? 
 I find it hard to believe that you would ONLY rely on Time Machine for 
 backups... no CCC or SuperDuper! backups or just photos backed up on a 
 external drive.
 
 Chris, Before you make this decision, give the Photos Repair another go and 
 this time - after the repair completes 100% and the Photos App remains 
 open and displays No images only blank gray albums -  Leave it open for 
 all day.
 The Photos Library is 292.84GB size, so a large amount of photos to be 
 converted/upgraded and also a lot of Spotlight reindexing is being done in 
 the background, this could take many hours.
 
 Disconnect anything attached to the MBP, quit all other applications.
 Launch Photos with The Command and Option keys held down, in the resulting 
 your library will be repaired window - click Repair 
 After it completes repair just leave Photos open and leave it for as many 
 hours as possible overnight if you can...  and let's see what happens
 
 Picasa:
 I've never used Picasa so don't know much about it.
 But I'm not sure if you will get Picasa to work now in OS X 10.10.3 with 
 your current (faulty) iPhoto Library that has been upgraded for Photos.
 From what I can find out about Picasa it doesn't store any of your photos, 
 it simply

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's MBP. 
Responses to questions inserted below.

Regards

Pete.


 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? In the Pictures folder there is an 
 iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB and there is a Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
 
 There are only these two files: “iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” and 
 “Photos Library.photoslibrary” mentioned previously? No, see response above.
 What size is indicated on both the above libraries? Sizes noted above.
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and see 
 the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. Two options shown. Photos Library and 
 iPhoto Library.
 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”? Takes 
 me to a browser window Pictures to select form the same two Photos Library 
 and iPhoto Library.
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app. I agree i think the 
 two libraries are in a transitional state.
  
 Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo 
 library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any 
 changes such as editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos 
 app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
 
 Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that you 
 deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library backup was within the sparesebuydle I 
 blew away, there is no backup.
 I would much prefer to know there is a backup
 
 Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try to 
 Repair the Photos Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 9:56 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes, my responses are following the running of the test's on my 
 wife's MBP.  
 
 The version of iPhotos is V 9.6.1.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
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 Sent:
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 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just two very quick questions.
 1. Have all the steps from my first reply to last reply that I've asked you 
 to do been carried out on your 'Wife's MBP'? 
 It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you were doing the steps on 
 your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto  Photos Library files.
 
 Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where the 
 Library's are located as I mentioned below.
 
 2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v 9.6.1?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
 these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.
 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to 
 Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 
 
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto 
 library could not be recognised.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving me 
the correct information.
Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.

I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto Libraries 
BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf

 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's MBP. 
 Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? 

 In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
Are you SURE  iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto 
Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
 and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
That looks correct!

 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and see 
 the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. 
 Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library.
Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto 
Library.photolibrary

If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what you should 
see!
Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary'   and click Choose Library

The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition has 
completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos Library.photoslibrary’ to open 
Photos with all your previous iPhoto photos  albums etc.

I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but please post 
back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee.
This has taken a lot of time trying to send  receive information through a 
third party is always difficult.

Cheers,
Ronni


 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”? Takes 
 me to a browser window Pictures to select form the same two Photos Library 
 and iPhoto Library.
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app. I agree i think the 
 two libraries are in a transitional state.
  
 Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo 
 library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any 
 changes such as editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos 
 app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
 
 Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that you 
 deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library backup was within the sparesebuydle I 
 blew away, there is no backup.
 I would much prefer to know there is a backup
 
 Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try to 
 Repair the Photos Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline for my 
input.

Regards


Pete

 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving me 
 the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto Libraries 
 BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's 
 MBP. Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? 
 
 In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
 Are you SURE  iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary.
 and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
 That looks correct!
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and see 
 the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. 
 Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library.
 Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding Option whilst 
 clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto Library.photolibrary.
 
 If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what you 
 should see!
 Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary'   and click Choose Library
 
 The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition has 
 completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos Library.photoslibrary’ to 
 open Photos with all your previous iPhoto photos  albums etc. Yes, I would 
 have thought so too. I selected Photos Library.photoslibrary and no photos 
 presented. When i click the triangle toggle for 'iPhoto Events', all of the 
 Events folders dating back to 2004 as they used to present in iPhoto show as 
 a greyed out icon beneath the 'iPhoto Events' header (about 200 of them). If 
 I select any one of these greyed out event folders, i get an empty white 
 panel to the right side. If I select 'All Photos', also no photos are shown. 
 The photo images are not shown.


 
 I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but please post 
 back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee.
 This has taken a lot of time trying to send  receive information through a 
 third party is always difficult.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”? Takes 
 me to a browser window Pictures to select form the same two Photos Library 
 and iPhoto Library.
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app. I agree i think the 
 two libraries are in a transitional state.
  
 Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo 
 library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any 
 changes such as editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos 
 app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
 
 Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that 
 you deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library backup was within the 
 sparesebuydle I blew away, there is no backup.
 I would much prefer to know there is a backup
 
 Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try 
 to Repair the Photos Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the iPhoto 
or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see the contents 
and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date hierarchy and in turn 
the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so they are there! It seems the 
mapping from the app front end for both iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 
'broken'.

Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.



Regards


Pete

 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline for my 
 input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving me 
 the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto 
 Libraries BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's 
 MBP. Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? 
 
 In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
 Are you SURE  iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary.
 and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
 That looks correct!
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and 
 see the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. 
 Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library.
 Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding Option whilst 
 clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto Library.photolibrary.
 
 If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what you 
 should see!
 Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary'   and click Choose Library
 
 The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition has 
 completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos Library.photoslibrary’ to 
 open Photos with all your previous iPhoto photos  albums etc. Yes, I would 
 have thought so too. I selected Photos Library.photoslibrary and no photos 
 presented. When i click the triangle toggle for 'iPhoto Events', all of the 
 Events folders dating back to 2004 as they used to present in iPhoto show as 
 a greyed out icon beneath the 'iPhoto Events' header (about 200 of them). If 
 I select any one of these greyed out event folders, i get an empty white 
 panel to the right side. If I select 'All Photos', also no photos are shown. 
 The photo images are not shown.
 
 
 
 I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but please 
 post back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee.
 This has taken a lot of time trying to send  receive information through a 
 third party is always difficult.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”? 
 Takes me to a browser window Pictures to select form the same two Photos 
 Library and iPhoto Library.
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app. I agree i think the 
 two libraries are in a transitional state.
  
 Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo 
 library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any 
 changes such as editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos 
 app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
 
 Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that 
 you deleted? Yes, the only iPhoto library backup was within the 
 sparesebuydle I blew away, there is no backup.
 I would much prefer to know there is a backup
 
 Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try 
 to Repair the Photos Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Ok Peter,

As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the 
update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or corruption.
When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you then 
relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... did that 
iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your Photos, Albums 
etc? 
I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos or 
AFTER.

If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - Photos 
Library.photoslibrary
1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
   and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 

Let me know your results please.

Cheers,
Ronni

 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the iPhoto 
 or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see the contents 
 and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date hierarchy and in turn 
 the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so they are there! It seems the 
 mapping from the app front end for both iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 
 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline for 
 my input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving 
 me the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto 
 Libraries BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's 
 MBP. Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? 
 
 In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
 Are you SURE  iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary.
 and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
 That looks correct!
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and 
 see the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. 
 Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library.
 Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding Option whilst 
 clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto Library.photolibrary.
 
 If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what you 
 should see!
 Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary'   and click Choose Library
 
 The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition has 
 completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos Library.photoslibrary’ to 
 open Photos with all your previous iPhoto photos  albums etc. Yes, I would 
 have thought so too. I selected Photos Library.photoslibrary and no 
 photos presented. When i click the triangle toggle for 'iPhoto Events', all 
 of the Events folders dating back to 2004 as they used to present in iPhoto 
 show as a greyed out icon beneath the 'iPhoto Events' header (about 200 of 
 them). If I select any one of these greyed out event folders, i get an 
 empty white panel to the right side. If I select 'All Photos', also no 
 photos are shown. The photo images are not shown.
 
 
 
 I’ll send you the document in another email to you ‘Offlist’, but please 
 post back to the list otherwise it is a consult fee.
 This has taken a lot of time trying to send  receive information through a 
 third party is always difficult.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”? 
 Takes me to a browser window Pictures to select form the same two Photos 
 Library and iPhoto Library.
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app. I agree i think 
 the two libraries are in a transitional 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been presented 
with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 

I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the Trash 
but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation was before 
or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I ran the cleaner 
app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before OSX update (and the 
iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), perhaps this is the 
reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto library back in Trash 
(without emptying naturally) and then tested the operation of iPhoto and 
Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its intelligent cross mapping with 
iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto library in Trash, that may account for 
the 'broken' front end to back end connection as the locations of the files in 
the mapping table is wrong?

I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.

Regards


Pete

 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the 
 update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you then 
 relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... did that 
 iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your Photos, 
 Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos or 
 AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - 
 Photos Library.photoslibrary
 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 
 
 Let me know your results please.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the 
 iPhoto or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see the 
 contents and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date hierarchy 
 and in turn the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so they are there! 
 It seems the mapping from the app front end for both iPhoto and Photos to 
 the JPG files is 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline for 
 my input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving 
 me the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto 
 Libraries BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's 
 MBP. Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”? 
 
 In the Pictures folder there is an iPhoto.photolibrary of size 291.94GB
 Are you SURE  iPhoto.photolibrary is correct - or is it iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary of size 291.94GB. Yes it is in fact iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary.
 and there is a Photos Library.photoslibrary of size 292.84GB.
 That looks correct!
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and 
 see the ‘Choose Library' dialog window. 
 Two options shown. Photos Library and iPhoto Library.
 Are you SURE - or are they named Photos Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary. Yes, it is as you say when holding Option whilst 
 clicking Photos there are two listed libraries. Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary and iPhoto Library.photolibrary.
 
 If they are named as I mention above- that is correct… that is what you 
 should see!
 Select 'Photos Library.photoslibrary'   and click Choose Library
 
 The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the update/transition has 
 completed - you should be able to select ‘Photos Library.photoslibrary’ to 
 open Photos with all your previous iPhoto photos  albums etc. Yes, I 
 would have thought so too. I selected Photos Library.photoslibrary and 
 no photos 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did things,  
fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically check your 
computer.

 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos App 
normally (from the Dock)?

Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try this:

1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
3. Click ‘Repair’
Then Quit iPhoto

4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down again
5. Select ‘Repair Database’
6. Click ‘Repair’
Then Quit iPhoto

See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.

Cheers,
Ronni

 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the Trash 
 but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation was 
 before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I ran 
 the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before OSX 
 update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), 
 perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto 
 library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then tested the 
 operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its 
 intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto 
 library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' front end to back end 
 connection as the locations of the files in the mapping table is wrong?
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the 
 update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you then 
 relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... did 
 that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your Photos, 
 Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos or 
 AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - 
 Photos Library.photoslibrary
 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 
 
 Let me know your results please.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the 
 iPhoto or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see the 
 contents and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date hierarchy 
 and in turn the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so they are 
 there! It seems the mapping from the app front end for both iPhoto and 
 Photos to the JPG files is 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline for 
 my input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are giving 
 me the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto 
 Libraries BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand off my wife's 
 MBP. Responses to questions inserted below.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.

See below.

Regards


Pete

 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did things,  
 fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically check your 
 computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos 
 App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no photos 
 showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try this: 
 Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto

I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which says 
Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto

Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation 
 was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I 
 ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before OSX 
 update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), 
 perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto 
 library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then tested the 
 operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its 
 intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto 
 library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' front end to back end 
 connection as the locations of the files in the mapping table is wrong?
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the 
 update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you then 
 relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... did 
 that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your 
 Photos, Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos 
 or AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - 
 Photos Library.photoslibrary
 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 
 
 Let me know your results please.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the 
 iPhoto or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see 
 the contents and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date 
 hierarchy and in turn the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so 
 they are there! It seems the mapping from the app front end for both 
 iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline 
 for my input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are 
 giving me the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and reply to the list please.
 
 I’ll send you a document ‘Offlist’ showing screenshots of my iPhoto 
 Libraries BEFORE  AFTER Update/transition to Photos.
 And the Option Key open Photos App to ‘Choose Library’ FYI
 iPhoto Libraries before  After transition to Photos Libraries.pdf
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 5:53 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, I am back home now so feedback now is first-hand 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Can you open iPhoto from the Dock with the Option Key held down and see the 
dialog window... Which Photo Library do you want iPhoto to use
What Libraries show there?... iPhoto Library - if so click 'choose'

In the Pictures folder do you have Aperture Library.aplibrary
If so what version is it?

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 16 May 2015, at 12:28 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, yes I appreciate this is not simple by emails. Responses underlined.
 
 See below.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:56 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Without knowing exactly what you did and the order in which you did things,  
 fixing this is really hard work not being able to physically check your 
 computer.
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 You Quit Photos.app after it completed the Repair  then relaunched Photos 
 App normally (from the Dock)? Yes, I did this and same result, no photos 
 showing.
 
 Do you have iPhoto.app in the Dock? If not place it in the Dock and try 
 this: Yes, I put it back there onto the Dock now.
 
 1. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down
 This will bring up 'iPhoto Library First Aid’ panel
 2. Select ‘Repair Permissions’
 3. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 I tried steps above and iPhoto does not open, I get the dialogue box which 
 says Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 4. Launch iPhoto App (from the dock) with COMMAND + OPTION keys held down 
 again
 5. Select ‘Repair Database’
 6. Click ‘Repair’
 Then Quit iPhoto
 
 Same as above, Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
 
 See if you can then launch iPhoto normally and see all your photos.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 11:09 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ever since the update to OSX, iPhoto hasn't worked - I have just been 
 presented with the message Aperture library needs to be upgraded. 
 
 I believe it was the cleaner app which placed the iPhoto library in the 
 Trash but from over 3 weeks ago I can't recall if that cleaning operation 
 was before or after doing the OSX update - if I was to guess I would say I 
 ran the cleaner app after the OSX update. If the cleaning was run before 
 OSX update (and the iPhoto library was in Trash while the OSX update ran), 
 perhaps this is the reason. What if I did a trial and placed the iPhoto 
 library back in Trash (without emptying naturally) and then tested the 
 operation of iPhoto and Photos? If the mapping for Photos (with its 
 intelligent cross mapping with iPhoto) was established with the iPhoto 
 library in Trash, that may account for the 'broken' front end to back end 
 connection as the locations of the files in the mapping table is wrong?
 
 I have run the Repair Photos library as you've suggested here and it runs 
 through to 100%. Still same status with no photos showing after that, old 
 iPhoto events list still showing all greyed out.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 9:20 am, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Ok Peter,
 
 As I mentioned previously The file sizes on the two Libraries indicate the 
 update/transition has completed... but there is some damage or corruption.
 When you noticed the original iPhoto Library was in the Trash and you then 
 relocated that library to the correct location in Pictures folder... did 
 that iPhoto Library work correctly?... that is “Did it show all your 
 Photos, Albums etc? 
 I'm trying to find out if the corruption was BEFORE you updated to Photos 
 or AFTER.
 
 If it was after I would suggest you try  “Repairing the PHOTO Library” - 
 Photos Library.photoslibrary
 1. Hold the COMMAND and OPTION keys down and launch PHOTOS app
 2. You will receive a dialog window - Click “Repair”
and see ‘Repairing Library’ and a  progress bar 
 
 Let me know your results please.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 8:52 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 A further piece of information on this. If i right mouse on either the 
 iPhoto or Photos libraries and select Open Package Contents I can see 
 the contents and the Masters folder which shows the Year/Month/Date 
 hierarchy and in turn the JPG files within the bottom level folder, so 
 they are there! It seems the mapping from the app front end for both 
 iPhoto and Photos to the JPG files is 'broken'.
 
 Note, I haven't tried to do anything more, just looked.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 16 May 2015, at 7:59 am, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,yes a typo on my part, see below corrected now with underline 
 for my input.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 15 May 2015, at 11:20 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I might have to take this ‘Offlist’ as I’m not too sure if you are 
 giving me the correct information.
 Check what I’ve mentioned below and 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, I will revert on these items below late next week or weekend. Too 
difficult to get this responded to remotely. Thanks for your patience and 
naturally your assistance.

Regards


Pete

 On 5 May 2015, at 4:44 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
  
 On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
 Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”?
 
 There are only these two files: “iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” and 
 “Photos Library.photoslibrary” mentioned previously?
 What size is indicated on both the above libraries? 
 
 Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and see 
 the ‘Choose Library' dialog window.
 What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”?
 
 It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
 completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything 
 would look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app.
  
 Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo 
 library has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any 
 changes such as editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos 
 app” and the 'Open Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 
 
 Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that you 
 deleted?
 I would much prefer to know there is a backup
 
 Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try to 
 Repair the Photos Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 5 May 2015, at 9:56 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes, my responses are following the running of the test's on my 
 wife's MBP.  
 
 The version of iPhotos is V 9.6.1.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Mon, 04 May 2015 17:16:27 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just two very quick questions.
 1. Have all the steps from my first reply to last reply that I've asked you 
 to do been carried out on your 'Wife's MBP'? 
 It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you were doing the steps on 
 your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto  Photos Library files.
 
 Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where the 
 Library's are located as I mentioned below.
 
 2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v 9.6.1?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
 these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.
 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to 
 Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 
 
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto 
 library could not be recognised.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this 
 correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But no 
 images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, 
 sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows 
 machine

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

Just to clarify a few things before I suggest anything else.
 
On your wife’s MBP - In her Pictures Folder there is NOT a “iPhoto 
Library.photolibrary” Or iPhoto Library”?

There are only these two files: “iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” and 
“Photos Library.photoslibrary” mentioned previously?
What size is indicated on both the above libraries? 

Hold Down the Option key  keep it down as you click Photos to open and see the 
‘Choose Library' dialog window.
What shows there? Also what shows there if you click “Other Library”?

It seems as thought the transition/import of iPhoto Library has not fully 
completed. If it had, the next time you opened the Photos.app everything would 
look similar/ but a bit different to iPhoto.app.
 
Also if it had, you would have been able to double-click on iPhoto 
Library.migratedphotolibrary and you would see this message “Your photo library 
has been migrated to Photos. You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as 
editing or adding new photos will not appear in the Photos app” and the 'Open 
Photos’ button would be BLUE for you to click. 

Was the only iPhoto Library backup on the Time Machine sparsebundle that you 
deleted?
I would much prefer to know there is a backup

Let me know the answers to above queries before I perhaps suggest you try to 
Repair the Photos Library.

Cheers,
Ronni

 On 5 May 2015, at 9:56 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes, my responses are following the running of the test's on my 
 wife's MBP.  
 
 The version of iPhotos is V 9.6.1.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Mon, 04 May 2015 17:16:27 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 Just two very quick questions.
 1. Have all the steps from my first reply to last reply that I've asked you 
 to do been carried out on your 'Wife's MBP'? 
 It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you were doing the steps on 
 your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto  Photos Library files.
 
 Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where the 
 Library's are located as I mentioned below.
 
 2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v 9.6.1?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
 these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.
 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to 
 Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 
 
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto 
 library could not be recognised.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this 
 correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But no 
 images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, sorry 
 that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows machine 
 all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

Just two very quick questions.
1. Have all the steps from my first reply to last reply that I've asked you to 
do been carried out on your 'Wife's MBP'? 
It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you were doing the steps on 
your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto  Photos Library files.

Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where the 
Library's are located as I mentioned below.

2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v 9.6.1?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
 these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.
 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to 
 Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 
 
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto 
 library could not be recognised.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, 
 I only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 
 10.10.3 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are 
 these two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is 
 this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But 
 no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, 
 sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows 
 machine all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in 
 PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens properly and sits with no photos showing (when 
 Photos Tab selected) but the 4 options of what to do for a new user. As I 
 noted prior, when I select the “Albums” tab, it shows in grey form the 
 panels reflecting the Events as was the case in iPhoto previously.
 
 If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 
 Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and everything looks 
 correct in Photos. If not please continue.
 So please ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)
 
 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 
 
 E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open 
 in PHOTOS?
 By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will 
 receive a dialog window saying:
 --
  “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
 You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new 
 photos will not appear in the Photos app. 
 Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - 
 Click  the BLUE ‘Open Photos'
 
 If E) doesn’t work try
 
 F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see 
 the 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’
 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we 
 could try to Repairing the Photos Library.
 If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos 
 to repair its own libraries.
 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
 Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes, my responses are following the running of the test's on
my wife's MBP.  
The version of iPhotos is V 9.6.1.
Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 04 May 2015 17:16:27 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 Just two very quick questions. 1. Have all the steps from my first
reply to last reply that I've asked you to do been carried out on your
'Wife's MBP'?  It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you
were doing the steps on your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto 
Photos Library files. 
 Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where
the Library's are located as I mentioned below. 
 2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v
9.6.1? 
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get
wife to do these tests. Below are the results of the two tests. 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to
3.3 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update
to Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian
store.  
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library
iPhoto library could not be recognised

Regards

 Pete   
On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:

  Hi Peter, 
 My comments in situ 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP
with me, I only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and
Photos). I am doing this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did
successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by
your Wife on her MBP.Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on
your MBP, so your Photos  iPhoto libraries would have the same
titles...

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions. 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [5] wrote: 

Answers to your questions here below. 
  A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.  B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.  C). And when you
try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct -
or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do. I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock?
Yes I mean Dock, sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat
in front of a Windows machine all day.  
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet? 
  D) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on the  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open
in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens properly and sits with no photos showing
(when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 options of what to do for a new
user. As I noted prior, when I select the “Albums” tab, it shows
in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was the case in
iPhoto previously.   
If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my
suggestions... Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and
everything looks correct in Photos. If not please continue.So please
ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)

 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below  
  E) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does
it open in PHOTOS?  By doing this - If it has completed the preparing
 migration you will receive a dialog window saying:
--
 “YOUR PHOTO LIBRARY HAS BEEN MIGRATED TO PHOTOS.”  You can open
it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos
will not appear in the Photos app.  Your options will be ‘Quit’
- ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS' - Click  the
BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS'
 If E)
doesn’t work try 
  F)_ Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY' See if
that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s
MBP, we could try to Repairing the Photos Library. If Photos begins
misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to repair
its own libraries. 
 From what 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.

The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
. I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to Aperture, 
the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 

Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto library 
could not be recognised.

Regards


Pete

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are 
 these two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is 
 this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But 
 no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, 
 sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows 
 machine all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens 
 properly and sits with no photos showing (when Photos Tab selected) but the 
 4 options of what to do for a new user. As I noted prior, when I select the 
 “Albums” tab, it shows in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was 
 the case in iPhoto previously.
 
 If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 
 Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and everything looks 
 correct in Photos. If not please continue.
 So please ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)
 
 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 
 
 E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open 
 in PHOTOS?
 By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will 
 receive a dialog window saying:
 --
  “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
 You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new 
 photos will not appear in the Photos app. 
 Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - 
 Click  the BLUE ‘Open Photos'
 
 If E) doesn’t work try
 
 F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see 
 the 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’
 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we 
 could try to Repairing the Photos Library.
 If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos 
 to repair its own libraries.
 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
 Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that all 
 the Data appears to be there but for some reason not visible.
 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do find we 
 need to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.
 
 Not yet Peter and definitely not on your MBP.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Hinchliffe]

 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife to do 
 these tests. Below are the results of the two tests.
 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to 3.3 
 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update to 
 Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian store. 
 
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library iPhoto 
 library could not be recognised.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Pete
 


You should still have a copy of iPhoto in your Applications folder. Does this 
still open your iPhoto library (you may be asked by iPhoto at launch which 
library file to use)? 

Using iPhoto and Time Machine (if you’re using that) to revert to a copy of the 
library which predates your Photos installation.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Thanks Peter, yes have tried that and unfortunately no good. Back at
the start of the thread i outlined these things. My iPhoto library is
in a transitional state that did not complete which has left both the
iPhoto library and the Photos library inaccessible. 
Regards

Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 4 May 2015 08:08:40 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife
to do these tests. Below are the results of the two tests. 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to
3.3 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update
to Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian
store.  
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library
iPhoto library could not be recognised.

Regards

 Pete  

 You should still have a copy of iPhoto in your Applications folder.
Does this still open your iPhoto library (you may be asked by iPhoto
at launch which library file to use)?  
 Using iPhoto and Time Machine (if you’re using that) to revert to
a copy of the library which predates your Photos installation. 
  Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.   


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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

Yes I have:
1.  Photos Library.photoslibrary (38GB)
2.  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary (34GB)

The migrated Photos Library opens in Photos. But when I look in Get Info I can 
see that the
2 libraries are in MacIntosh HD Users fwhaenel Public (not in pictures). Do 
I have to move them to pictures ?

In Pictures I found :
1. iPhoto Library Recovered Photos
2. iPhoto Slideshows
I am also serching for the other library that only has 1 photo.

Thanks Ronni,

Cheers,
Walter

 On 30 Apr 2015, at 10:50 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Did you delete that first Photos Library that only had ONE photo in it?
 Are you sure you don't have Two 'Photos Libraries' in your User  Pictures 
 folder?
 
 When you click on Photos in the Dock, does the migrated (complete) Photos 
 Library open?
 
 Check in your User  Pictures folder how many iPhoto  Photos Libraries you 
 have.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:36 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 On that screen I have selected “All photos and albums” (next to Photos it 
 tells me there is one photo) and then clicked Apply.
 One photo is now indeed available on AppleTV - it is the one that I manually 
 imported into Photos before 
 migrating the old library into Photos.
 
 Thanks Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 *
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 08:52 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer 
 the photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 
 
 Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:
 
 1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with 
 Apple TV
 2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: 
 Photos
 3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
  ‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
   tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Walter,

 On 30 Apr 2015, at 2:22 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Yes I have:
 1.Photos Library.photoslibrary (38GB)
 2.iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary (34GB)
 
 The migrated Photos Library opens in Photos. But when I look in Get Info I 
 can see that the
 2 libraries are in MacIntosh HD Users fwhaenel Public (not in pictures). 
 Do I have to move them to pictures ?

YES... Move both into your Users  Pictures folder
Then Open Photos app from the Dock and see if the correct Photos 
Library.photoslibrary opens.
 
 In Pictures I found :
 1. iPhoto Library Recovered Photos
 2. iPhoto Slideshows
 I am also serching for the other library that only has 1 photo.
 
 Thanks Ronni,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 10:50 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Did you delete that first Photos Library that only had ONE photo in it?
 Are you sure you don't have Two 'Photos Libraries' in your User  Pictures 
 folder?
 
 When you click on Photos in the Dock, does the migrated (complete) Photos 
 Library open?
 
 Check in your User  Pictures folder how many iPhoto  Photos Libraries you 
 have.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:36 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 On that screen I have selected “All photos and albums” (next to Photos it 
 tells me there is one photo) and then clicked Apply.
 One photo is now indeed available on AppleTV - it is the one that I 
 manually imported into Photos before 
 migrating the old library into Photos.
 
 Thanks Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 *
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 08:52 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer 
 the photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 
 
 Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:
 
 1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with 
 Apple TV
 2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: 
 Photos
 3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
 ‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
  tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

The 2 libraries are now residing in the right place and all is working ok.
AppleTV has access to photos.

Thanks again,

Cheers,
Walter
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 14:56 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 2:22 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Yes I have:
 1.   Photos Library.photoslibrary (38GB)
 2.   iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary (34GB)
 
 The migrated Photos Library opens in Photos. But when I look in Get Info I 
 can see that the
 2 libraries are in MacIntosh HD Users fwhaenel Public (not in pictures). 
 Do I have to move them to pictures ?
 
 YES... Move both into your Users  Pictures folder
 Then Open Photos app from the Dock and see if the correct Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary opens.
 
 In Pictures I found :
 1. iPhoto Library Recovered Photos
 2. iPhoto Slideshows
 I am also serching for the other library that only has 1 photo.
 
 Thanks Ronni,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 10:50 , Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 Did you delete that first Photos Library that only had ONE photo in it?
 Are you sure you don't have Two 'Photos Libraries' in your User  Pictures 
 folder?
 
 When you click on Photos in the Dock, does the migrated (complete) Photos 
 Library open?
 
 Check in your User  Pictures folder how many iPhoto  Photos Libraries you 
 have.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:36 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 On that screen I have selected “All photos and albums” (next to Photos it 
 tells me there is one photo) and then clicked Apply.
 One photo is now indeed available on AppleTV - it is the one that I 
 manually imported into Photos before 
 migrating the old library into Photos.
 
 Thanks Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 *
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 08:52 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer 
 the photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 
 
 Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:
 
 1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with 
 Apple TV
 2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: 
 Photos
 3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
 ‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
 tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Stephen,

The D. Pogue manuals are excellent. I’m thinking about it.

Thanks for your suggestion,

Cheers,
Walter
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 13:41 , Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Or if you would like something more comprehensive try “Photos for Mac  iOS - 
 The Missing Manual””
 It is $34.70 AUD from The Book Depository.
 They usually deliver in about a week and the delivery charge is included.
 They also use PayPal.
 
 Try this link 
 http://www.bookdepository.com/Photos-for-Mac-iOS-Missing-Manual-Lesa-Snider/9781491917992
 
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 8:00 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I’ll have a look.
 
 Also I am confused, when I want to look at my photos on the TV via AppleTV I 
 can no longer see the photos in my library.
 iTunes is turned on on the iMac and it’s set to “Share entire library” / 
 “Share my library on my local network”
 
 Thanks Peter,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 **
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 07:29 , Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 
 
 Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it 
 seems that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take 
 Control Crash Course” from Take Control books.
 
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course
 
 It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than 
 anything else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews 
 and specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I 
 need to know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
 well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me 
 in good stead.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
iPhotos.

**
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 06:58 , petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Ok, noted Ronni, thanks I will get her to do this and revert probably later 
 today.
 
 Thanks again
 
 Pete. 
 
 
 
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 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:22:53 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 My comments in situ
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
 The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife 
 on her MBP.
 Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
 iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this 
 correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But no 
 images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, sorry 
 that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows machine 
 all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens 
 properly and sits with no photos showing (when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 
 options of what to do for a new user. As I noted prior, when I select the 
 “Albums” tab, it shows in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was 
 the case in iPhoto previously.
 
 If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 
 Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and everything looks 
 correct in Photos. If not please continue.
 So please ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)
 
 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 
 
 E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS?
 By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will 
 receive a dialog window saying:
 --
  “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
 You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new 
 photos will not appear in the Photos app 
 Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - 
 Click  the BLUE ‘Open Photos'
 
 If E) doesn’t work try
 
 F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the 
 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’
 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we could 
 try to Repairing the Photos Library.
 If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to 
 repair its own libraries.
 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
 Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that all the 
 Data appears to be there but for some reason not visible.
 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do find we need 
 to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.
 
 Not yet Peter and definitely not on your MBP.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Hinchliffe]

 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 

Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it seems 
that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take Control Crash 
Course” from Take Control books.

http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course 
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course

It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than anything 
else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews and 
specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I need to 
know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me in 
good stead.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Peter,

I’ll have a look.

Also I am confused, when I want to look at my photos on the TV via AppleTV I 
can no longer see the photos in my library.
iTunes is turned on on the iMac and it’s set to “Share entire library” / “Share 
my library on my local network”

Thanks Peter,

Cheers,
Walter

**
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 07:29 , Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 
 
 Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it 
 seems that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take 
 Control Crash Course” from Take Control books.
 
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course
 
 It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than anything 
 else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews and 
 specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I need 
 to know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
 well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me in 
 good stead.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Walter,

If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer the 
photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 

Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:

1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with Apple 
TV
2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: Photos
3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
   ‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD

OS X Yosemite 10.10.3


 On 30 Apr 2015, at 8:00 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I’ll have a look.
 
 Also I am confused, when I want to look at my photos on the TV via AppleTV I 
 can no longer see the photos in my library.
 iTunes is turned on on the iMac and it’s set to “Share entire library” / 
 “Share my library on my local network”
 
 Thanks Peter,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 **
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 07:29 , Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 
 
 Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it 
 seems that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take 
 Control Crash Course” from Take Control books.
 
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course
 
 It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than anything 
 else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews and 
 specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I need 
 to know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
 well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me 
 in good stead.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

On that screen I have selected “All photos and albums” (next to Photos it tells 
me there is one photo) and then clicked Apply.
One photo is now indeed available on AppleTV - it is the one that I manually 
imported into Photos before 
migrating the old library into Photos.

Thanks Ronni

Cheers,
Walter

*
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 08:52 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer the 
 photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 
 
 Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:
 
 1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with 
 Apple TV
 2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: 
 Photos
 3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
 tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.3
 
 
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 8:00 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I’ll have a look.
 
 Also I am confused, when I want to look at my photos on the TV via AppleTV I 
 can no longer see the photos in my library.
 iTunes is turned on on the iMac and it’s set to “Share entire library” / 
 “Share my library on my local network”
 
 Thanks Peter,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 **
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 07:29 , Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 
 
 Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it 
 seems that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take 
 Control Crash Course” from Take Control books.
 
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course
 
 It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than 
 anything else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews 
 and specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I 
 need to know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
 well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me 
 in good stead.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Walter,

Did you delete that first Photos Library that only had ONE photo in it?
Are you sure you don't have Two 'Photos Libraries' in your User  Pictures 
folder?

When you click on Photos in the Dock, does the migrated (complete) Photos 
Library open?

Check in your User  Pictures folder how many iPhoto  Photos Libraries you 
have.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:36 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 On that screen I have selected “All photos and albums” (next to Photos it 
 tells me there is one photo) and then clicked Apply.
 One photo is now indeed available on AppleTV - it is the one that I manually 
 imported into Photos before 
 migrating the old library into Photos.
 
 Thanks Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 *
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 08:52 , Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 If you aren’t using iCloud Photo Library, you can use iTunes to transfer the 
 photos in your Photos library to iPad, iPhone, iPod, or Apple TV. 
 
 Use iTunes to transfer photos to iOS devices and Apple TV:
 
 1. Open iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing  Choose Photos to Share with 
 Apple TV
 2. Select what albums you want to share under - tick  ‘Share Photos from: 
 Photos
 3. Select either ‘All photos and albums’ or 
   ‘Selected albums’   select which you wish to share 
tick ‘Include videos’ if you wish
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.3
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Stephen Chape]

Or if you would like something more comprehensive try “Photos for Mac  iOS - 
The Missing Manual””
It is $34.70 AUD from The Book Depository.
They usually deliver in about a week and the delivery charge is included.
They also use PayPal.

Try this link 
http://www.bookdepository.com/Photos-for-Mac-iOS-Missing-Manual-Lesa-Snider/9781491917992
 
http://www.bookdepository.com/Photos-for-Mac-iOS-Missing-Manual-Lesa-Snider/9781491917992


 On 30 Apr 2015, at 8:00 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I’ll have a look.
 
 Also I am confused, when I want to look at my photos on the TV via AppleTV I 
 can no longer see the photos in my library.
 iTunes is turned on on the iMac and it’s set to “Share entire library” / 
 “Share my library on my local network”
 
 Thanks Peter,
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 **
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 07:29 , Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 2:40 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 is there a user manual for Photos ? Can only find one in Apple support for 
 iPhotos.
 
 
 Although it’s probably really just a preparatory manual, at this stage it 
 seems that the most comprehensive “manual” is “ Photos for Mac: A Take 
 Control Crash Course” from Take Control books.
 
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/photos-crash-course
 
 It’s only 30 pages, but it does seem to offer more information than anything 
 else out there, the bulk of which mostly takes the form of reviews and 
 specialist articles. I must say though that I think I have found all I need 
 to know about Photos just by clicking and poking. Apart from a a few 
 well-documented differences, what I already know about iPhoto has stood me 
 in good stead.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

 if you like (though once you import, if you do 
 anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the 
 Photos version).
 
 So what happens if you edit one of those files? Something clever: if I edit 
 a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that version is 
 altered—but the version in the Photos library is untouched. 
 Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file causes the link to 
 break. Now there are two different files, both taking up disk space, living 
 independently.
 For Mac users accustomed to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, 
 this one’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to 
 allow us to migrate to Photos without duplicating an entire library and 
 eating all of our free disk space—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to 
 Photos because we don’t have the room.
 
 The new Photos library references the same master images as your old 
 library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes 
 for an incredibly efficient migration process.
 ---
 But because of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. 
 How to correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP.
 From what I can ascertain from your emails - 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are 
 these two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? 
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is 
 this correct?
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens?
 
 One suggestion I will make:
 On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary 
 does it open in PHOTOS?
 If  NOT 
 Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the 
 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:26 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it.  I opened iPhoto with Option held 
 and selected Create New. I set a new location for the new database 
 library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import and pointed to 
 the transitioning iPhoto Library that I've been unable to open up in the 
 conventional way. So last night it was able to commence the import of the 
 photos and i can see the images on screen as it counts down. The 
 transitioning Library was ~250GB and I had no choice but to let it proceed 
 when it asked confirm you have enough disc space - I had ~750GB free on 
 my 2TB drive which at the time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said 
 Importing 335,000 photos!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, 
 however, it was still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only 
 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I 
 am not so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access 
 them. I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start 
 the process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently 
 much larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be done 
 or maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into 
 this pickle.
 
 Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without 
 resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else 
 has encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself 
 into.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 
 
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 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when 
 possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed 
 a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external 
 drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my 
 Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in 
 the UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library 
 from Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on 
 my Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Thanks Peter for answering my questions.

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this 
 correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But no 
 images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.

I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock?

OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?

D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary” (in 
her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS?
If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 

If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 

E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” 
(in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS?
By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will receive 
a dialog window saying:
--
 “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos 
will not appear in the Photos app. 
Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - Click  
the BLUE ‘Open Photos'

If E) doesn’t work try

F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the 
'Choose Library dialog' window.
Click 'Other Library' 
Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 

If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we could 
try to Repairing the Photos Library.
If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to 
repair its own libraries.

From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that all the 
Data appears to be there but for some reason not visible.

I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do find we need to 
try that.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Stephen Chape]

 of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than existing in 
 one place with an alias in a different location, files that are 'hard 
 linked' appear to live in two places at once, but only take up the space 
 of a single file.
 
 Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open 
 it in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do 
 anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the 
 Photos version).
 
 So what happens if you edit one of those files? Something clever: if I 
 edit a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that version is 
 altered—but the version in the Photos library is untouched. 
 Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file causes the link to 
 break. Now there are two different files, both taking up disk space, 
 living independently.
 For Mac users accustomed to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, 
 this one’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to 
 allow us to migrate to Photos without duplicating an entire library and 
 eating all of our free disk space—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to 
 Photos because we don’t have the room.
 
 The new Photos library references the same master images as your old 
 library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes 
 for an incredibly efficient migration process.
 ---
 But because of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. 
 How to correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP.
 From what I can ascertain from your emails - 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are 
 these two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? 
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is 
 this correct?
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens?
 
 One suggestion I will make:
 On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary 
 does it open in PHOTOS?
 If  NOT 
 Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the 
 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:26 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it.  I opened iPhoto with Option held 
 and selected Create New. I set a new location for the new database 
 library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import and pointed to 
 the transitioning iPhoto Library that I've been unable to open up in 
 the conventional way. So last night it was able to commence the import of 
 the photos and i can see the images on screen as it counts down. The 
 transitioning Library was ~250GB and I had no choice but to let it 
 proceed when it asked confirm you have enough disc space - I had ~750GB 
 free on my 2TB drive which at the time seemed enough. Once it had 
 started, it said Importing 335,000 photos!!! I don't recall there ever 
 being that many, however, it was still Importing this morning with 
 225,000 to go but only 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space 
 at that rate.Oh well, I am not so worried about that, at least I have now 
 got a way to access them. I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I 
 am home will start the process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that 
 it is now apparently much larger than it was. Perhaps there is a 
 compression that can be done or maybe this is all a consequence of the 
 process of how I've got into this pickle.
 
 Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library 
 without resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or 
 anyone else has encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've 
 got myself into.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when 
 possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I 
 placed a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB 
 external drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess 
 remotely from my Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to 
 my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both 
 sitting within one folder

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing this 
trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 and 
also successfully set up Photos. 


 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these 
 two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this 
 correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But no 
 images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, sorry 
 that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows machine 
 all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens 
 properly and sits with no photos showing (when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 
 options of what to do for a new user. As I noted prior, when I select the 
 “Albums” tab, it shows in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was 
 the case in iPhoto previously.


 If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 
 
 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 
 
 E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS?
 By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will 
 receive a dialog window saying:
 --
  “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
 You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new 
 photos will not appear in the Photos app. 
 Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - 
 Click  the BLUE ‘Open Photos'
 
 If E) doesn’t work try
 
 F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the 
 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’
 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we could 
 try to Repairing the Photos Library.
 If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to 
 repair its own libraries.
 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
 Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that all the 
 Data appears to be there but for some reason not visible.
 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do find we need 
 to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.3
 
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

My comments in situ

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP with me, I 
 only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and Photos). I am doing 
 this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 
 and also successfully set up Photos. 

The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by your Wife on 
her MBP.
Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on your MBP, so your Photos  
iPhoto libraries would have the same titles...
 
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions.
 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Answers to your questions here below.
 
 A). On your wife's MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are 
 these two files iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and  Photos 
 Library.photoslibrary… Is this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is 
 this correct? Yes, this is correct.
 C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this 
 correct - or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos 
 application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options. But 
 no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums tab is 
 selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out with no 
 photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I never do.
 
 I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock? Yes I mean Dock, 
 sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat in front of a Windows 
 machine all day.
 
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet?
 
 D) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the  Photos Library.photoslibrary” 
 (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens 
 properly and sits with no photos showing (when Photos Tab selected) but the 
 4 options of what to do for a new user. As I noted prior, when I select the 
 “Albums” tab, it shows in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was 
 the case in iPhoto previously.

 If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my suggestions... 
Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and everything looks correct 
in Photos. If not please continue.
So please ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)
 
 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below 
 
 E) On her MBP - If she double-clicks on iPhoto 
 Library.migratedphotolibrary” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open 
 in PHOTOS?
 By doing this - If it has completed the preparing  migration you will 
 receive a dialog window saying:
 --
  “Your photo library has been migrated to Photos.” 
 You can open it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new 
 photos will not appear in the Photos app. 
 Your options will be ‘Quit’ - ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘Open Photos' - 
 Click  the BLUE ‘Open Photos'
 
 If E) doesn’t work try
 
 F) Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see 
 the 'Choose Library dialog' window.
 Click 'Other Library' 
 Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary'
 See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’
 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s MBP, we 
 could try to Repairing the Photos Library.
 If Photos begins misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos 
 to repair its own libraries.
 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of each 
 Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’ file), that all 
 the Data appears to be there but for some reason not visible.
 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do find we need 
 to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.

Not yet Peter and definitely not on your MBP.

Cheers,
Ronni
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.3
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Ok, noted Ronni, thanks I will get her to do this and revert probably
later today.
Thanks again
Pete. 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:22:53 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 My comments in situ 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP
with me, I only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and
Photos). I am doing this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did
successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by
your Wife on her MBP.Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on
your MBP, so your Photos  iPhoto libraries would have the same
titles...

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions. 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [3] wrote: 

Answers to your questions here below. 
  A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.  B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.  C). And when you
try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct -
or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do. I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock?
Yes I mean Dock, sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat
in front of a Windows machine all day.  
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet? 
  D) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on the  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open
in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens properly and sits with no photos showing
(when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 options of what to do for a new
user. As I noted prior, when I select the “Albums” tab, it shows
in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was the case in
iPhoto previously.   
If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my
suggestions... Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and
everything looks correct in Photos. If not please continue.So please
ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)

 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below  
  E) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does
it open in PHOTOS?  By doing this - If it has completed the preparing
 migration you will receive a dialog window saying:
--
 “YOUR PHOTO LIBRARY HAS BEEN MIGRATED TO PHOTOS.”  You can open
it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos
will not appear in the Photos app.  Your options will be ‘Quit’
- ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS' - Click  the
BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS'
 If E)
doesn’t work try 
  F)_ Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY' See if
that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s
MBP, we could try to Repairing the Photos Library. If Photos begins
misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to repair
its own libraries. 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of
each Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’
file), that all the Data appears to be there but for some reason not
visible. 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do
find we need to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.   
Not yet Peter and definitely not on your MBP. 
 Cheers, Ronni

 Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD

OS X Yosemite 10.10.3

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

Hello Peter,

Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto Library 
to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing everything was 
working correctly

The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that library. 
Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a library from 
the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.

Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new Photos 
library.
When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains 
intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate libraries 
on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos library. 

The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your iPhoto 
Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 'sharing 
disk space' via ‘hard links’.

After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will have 
in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
 iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary

 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch.
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see the 
 images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a new 
 user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to the new 
 Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows in Get 
 Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture and 
 video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a cleaner 
 (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the cleaning 
 notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this was an 
 action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now placed 
 alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.

Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as I’ve 
mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run.
But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct location 
in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash!
 
 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.

I don’t want to read anymore :(
 
 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups 
 during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice 
 anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned TM 
 back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong while 
 and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that and 
 thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done this 
 previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM backup to retrieve 
 anything in the 6 years of Mac ownership) decided I would delete the 
 Sparesebundle file and do a new Backup from scratch . I suspect that the 
 Preparing Backup routine spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the 
 Photos library in its normal home and detected there are two libraries to 
 back up hence the order of magnitude of the backup.
 
 Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where neither 
 iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous images. 
 
 When I launch iPhoto - I get a message Aperture needs updating so when I 
 try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not available in the 
 Australian Apple Store - so no good there
 
 When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select Albums, 
 I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as Albums and the names 
 of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos Events folder, but upon 
 opening, nothing is visible. Still no images.
 
 Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I still don't 
 understand why I can get at my images/videos?

Whilst in hindsight now ‘some’ but almost all your actions have not been good 
from what I can ascertain from your email :(
 
 Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle?

Let us now exactly what Library files you have in User  Pictures please -  and 
also if you have a backup of your wife’s iPhoto Library BEFORE you did the 
Update to OS X 10.10.3?

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD

OS X Yosemite 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in
hindsight). 
As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I
placed a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB
external drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess
remotely from my Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior
to my departure. 
So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both
sitting within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying
around 295GB from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also
still in place in the UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I
restored the iPhoto library from Trash using the Put Back command.
When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method
on my Retina), it reflects as IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY. Which would suggest that the library
underwent the start of its transformation in readiness to be 'hard
linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation was never
completed.
I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the
update - coz I blew away the Sparesebundle!
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Hello Peter,
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of
 iPhoto Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup
BEFORE testing everything was working correctly 
  The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto
and Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports
that library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window
 - Choose a library from the list, and Photos prepares the library
for import.  
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a
new Photos library. When you import an iPhoto library into Photos,
your existing library remains intact. The net result of the import is
that you’ll have two separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your
old_ iPhoto library_ and a new _Photos library_.  
  The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard
Links. Your iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library
comes into being.  The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size,
but in fact, they’re 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos
you will have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
 IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” AND “PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY  
  On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the
new Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously
without issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without
a hitch.
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to
see the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4
options for a new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up
and directed it to the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The
Photo Library file shows in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be
a file containing the picture and video files but how do I access it? 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran
a cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels
after the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto
Library!!! I assume this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected
Put Back and it in turn is now placed alongside the Photos Library
in the default Apple folder location. 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I
suspect that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the
migration (but not duplication) of image files.   
Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened
(as I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is
run. But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the
correct location in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash!

 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.  
I don’t want to read anymore :(

 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted
backups during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended
practice anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running
Photos) I turned TM back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup
routine for a looong while and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed
the cross to stop that and thought about it a bit. Running low on TM
disc space and having done this previously (and never once having had
to call upon the TM backup to retrieve anything in the 6 years of Mac
ownership) decided I would delete the Sparesebundle file and do a new
Backup from scratch . I suspect that the Preparing Backup routine
spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the Photos library in its
normal home and detected there are two libraries to back up hence the
order of magnitude of 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when possible.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed a 
 copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive and 
 using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes MBP. A 
 necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the 
 UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from 
 Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on my 
 Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation 
 was never completed.
 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - coz 
 I blew away the Sparesebundle!
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto 
 Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing 
 everything was working correctly
 
 The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
 Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that 
 library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a 
 library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.
 
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new 
 Photos library.
 When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains 
 intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate 
 libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos 
 library. 
 
 The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your 
 iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
 The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 
 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’.
 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will 
 have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary
 
 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch.
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see the 
 images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a new 
 user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to the new 
 Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows in Get 
 Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture and 
 video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a cleaner 
 (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the cleaning 
 notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this was an 
 action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now placed 
 alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.
 
 Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as I’ve 
 mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run.
 But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct location 
 in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash!
 
 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.
 
 I don’t want to read anymore :(
 
 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups 
 during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice 
 anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned TM 
 back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong while 
 and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that and 
 thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done this 
 previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM

Re: iPhoto Albums with Photo ?

[Stephen Chape]

Ta Ronni.
I have done that now for Apple TV on your advice.
However I was referring to Albums in Photo itself.
I rather liked the sidebar listing the Albums.

 On 26 Apr 2015, at 1:14 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 In iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing - Choose 'Photos to Share with Apple TV'
 Then select - Share Photos from PHOTOS
 Select 'Selected Albums'
 Then under Albums - Select which Albums you wish to share
 Then click 'Apply'
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 12:43 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I have finally done the Combo Upgrade.
 Had to add PHOTOS back in to my Apple TV Menu (via iTunes Menu on my Mac).
 But I can’t find my iPhoto Albums and Smart Albums.
 
 Does this mean I need to set them up again in Photo ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPhoto Albums with Photo ?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

You can still have the Albums  Projects  iPhoto Events showing in the Sidebar 
in Photos.
In the Menu bar - Go to View  Show Sidebar
You then see all Albums in the left Sidebar. 
If you can't see Albums , hover your cursor over Albums  click 'Show'

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 Apr 2015, at 10:35 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Ta Ronni.
 I have done that now for Apple TV on your advice.
 However I was referring to Albums in Photo itself.
 I rather liked the sidebar listing the Albums.
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 1:14 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 In iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing - Choose 'Photos to Share with Apple 
 TV'
 Then select - Share Photos from PHOTOS
 Select 'Selected Albums'
 Then under Albums - Select which Albums you wish to share
 Then click 'Apply'
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 12:43 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I have finally done the Combo Upgrade.
 Had to add PHOTOS back in to my Apple TV Menu (via iTunes Menu on my Mac).
 But I can’t find my iPhoto Albums and Smart Albums.
 
 Does this mean I need to set them up again in Photo ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it.  I opened iPhoto with Option
held and selected Create New. I set a new location for the new
database library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import
and pointed to the transitioning iPhoto Library that I've been
unable to open up in the conventional way. So last night it was able
to commence the import of the photos and i can see the images on
screen as it counts down. The transitioning Library was ~250GB and I
had no choice but to let it proceed when it asked confirm you have
enough disc space - I had ~750GB free on my 2TB drive which at the
time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said Importing 335,000
photos!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, however, it was
still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only 250GB space
left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I am not
so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access them. I
will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start the
process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently
much larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be
done or maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got
into this pickle.
Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library
without resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or
anyone else has encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess
I've got myself into.
Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when
possible.  
Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in
hindsight). 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I
placed a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB
external drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess
remotely from my Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior
to my departure.  
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both
sitting within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying
around 295GB from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also
still in place in the UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I
restored the iPhoto library from Trash using the Put Back command. 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key
method on my Retina), it reflects as IPHOTO
LIBRARYMIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY Which would suggest that the library
underwent the start of its transformation in readiness to be 'hard
linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation was never
completed. 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the
update - coz I blew away the Sparesebundle! 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:WAMUG 
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Hello Peter,
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of
 iPhoto Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup
BEFORE testing everything was working correctly... 
  The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto
and Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports
that library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window
 - Choose a library from the list, and Photos prepares the library
for import.  
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a
new Photos library. When you import an iPhoto library into Photos,
your existing library remains intact. The net result of the import is
that you’ll have two separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your
old_ iPhoto library_ and a new _Photos library_.  
  The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard
Links. Your iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library
comes into being.  The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size,
but in fact, they’re 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos
you will have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
 IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” AND “PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY  
  On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote: 
Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the
new Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously
without issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without
a hitch.
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to
see the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4
options for a new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up
and directed it to the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The
Photo Library file shows in Get Info 

Re: iPhoto Albums with Photo ?

[Stephen Chape]

Holy cow … I must be losing it.
I mean that is such a simple thing to find.

Thank you Ronni for helping a senile old !@#$%^

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 12:11 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 You can still have the Albums  Projects  iPhoto Events showing in the 
 Sidebar in Photos.
 In the Menu bar - Go to View  Show Sidebar
 You then see all Albums in the left Sidebar. 
 If you can't see Albums , hover your cursor over Albums  click 'Show'
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 10:35 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Ta Ronni.
 I have done that now for Apple TV on your advice.
 However I was referring to Albums in Photo itself.
 I rather liked the sidebar listing the Albums.
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 1:14 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 In iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing - Choose 'Photos to Share with Apple 
 TV'
 Then select - Share Photos from PHOTOS
 Select 'Selected Albums'
 Then under Albums - Select which Albums you wish to share
 Then click 'Apply'
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 12:43 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I have finally done the Combo Upgrade.
 Had to add PHOTOS back in to my Apple TV Menu (via iTunes Menu on my Mac).
 But I can’t find my iPhoto Albums and Smart Albums.
 
 Does this mean I need to set them up again in Photo ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed a 
 copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive and 
 using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes MBP. A 
 necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the 
 UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from 
 Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on my 
 Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation 
 was never completed.
 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - coz 
 I blew away the Sparesebundle!
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 To:
 WAMUG wa...@wamugorg.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto 
 Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing 
 everything was working correctly
 
 The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
 Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that 
 library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a 
 library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.
 
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new 
 Photos library.
 When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains 
 intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate 
 libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos 
 library 
 
 The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your 
 iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
 The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 
 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’.
 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will 
 have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary
 
 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnetcom.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see the 
 images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a new 
 user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to the new 
 Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows in Get 
 Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture and 
 video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a cleaner 
 (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the cleaning 
 notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this was an 
 action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now placed 
 alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.
 
 Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as I’ve 
 mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run.
 But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct location 
 in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash!
 
 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.
 
 I don’t want to read anymore :(
 
 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups 
 during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice 
 anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned TM 
 back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Ronni Brown]

 there is still another method to properly unpick the library without 
 resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else has 
 encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself into.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au 
 mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when 
 possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed a 
 copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive 
 and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes 
 MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the 
 UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from 
 Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on my 
 Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the 
 transformation was never completed.
 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - 
 coz I blew away the Sparesebundle!
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 To:
 WAMUG wa...@wamugorg.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto 
 Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing 
 everything was working correctly
 
 The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
 Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that 
 library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a 
 library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.
 
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new 
 Photos library.
 When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains 
 intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate 
 libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos 
 library 
 
 The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your 
 iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
 The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 
 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’.
 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will 
 have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary
 
 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnetcom.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see 
 the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a 
 new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to 
 the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows 
 in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture 
 and video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a 
 cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the 
 cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this 
 was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now 
 placed alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.
 
 Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as 
 I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run.
 But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Severin Crisp]

 there is a compression that can be done or maybe 
 this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into this pickle.
 
 Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without 
 resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else has 
 encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself into.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au 
 mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when 
 possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed a 
 copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive 
 and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes 
 MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the 
 UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from 
 Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on my 
 Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the 
 transformation was never completed.
 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - 
 coz I blew away the Sparesebundle!
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 To:
 WAMUG wa...@wamugorg.au mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto 
 Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing 
 everything was working correctly
 
 The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
 Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that 
 library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a 
 library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.
 
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new 
 Photos library.
 When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains 
 intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate 
 libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos 
 library 
 
 The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your 
 iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
 The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 
 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’.
 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will 
 have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary
 
 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
 mailto:petercr...@westnetcom.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see 
 the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a 
 new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to 
 the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows 
 in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture 
 and video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a 
 cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the 
 cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this 
 was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now 
 placed alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.
 
 Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[F.W. Hänel]

 started, it said 
 Importing 335,000 photos!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, 
 however, it was still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only 
 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I 
 am not so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access them. 
 I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start the 
 process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently much 
 larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be done or 
 maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into this 
 pickle.
 
 Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without 
 resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else has 
 encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself into.
 
 Regards
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 
 
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 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 wamug@wamug.org.au wamug@wamug.org.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when 
 possible.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). 
 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed 
 a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive 
 and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes 
 MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. 
 
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both sitting 
 within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB 
 from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the 
 UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from 
 Trash using the Put Back command.
 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on 
 my Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would 
 suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in 
 readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the 
 transformation was never completed.
 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - 
 coz I blew away the Sparesebundle!
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From:
 wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 To:
 WAMUG wa...@wamugorg.au
 Cc:
 
 Sent:
 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: iPhoto to Photos migration
 
 
 Hello Peter,
 
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of  iPhoto 
 Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing 
 everything was working correctly
 
 The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and 
 Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that 
 library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window  - Choose a 
 library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import.
 
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new 
 Photos library.
 When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library 
 remains intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two 
 separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new 
 Photos library 
 
 The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links. Your 
 iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being.
 The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re 
 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’.
 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will 
 have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
  iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary
 
 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see 
 the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a 
 new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to 
 the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows 
 in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture 
 and video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a 
 cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after 
 the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume 
 this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn 
 is now placed alongside the Photos Library

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes it has, dare I say too, been a stuff up! :) 
Please finish your more urgent work before responding to my woes.

I am aware that I am creating a new iPhoto Library but I am doing this
with cognisance that I am working in a completely separate place (with
copies only) of the library files on my wifes MBP. The master library
files still reside on her MBP and exactly as I left them in the User 
Pictures folder. I took copies only of those two library files.
What I have proved by making a new library is I can access the
content. That was my number 1 concern.
I understand the Hard Link information you've outlined.
Answers to your questions here below.
A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.C). And when you try
to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct - or
what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do.
Thanks
Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:46:16 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Oops I forgot to also mention -NOTE On first launch, PHOTOS asks
if you’d like to use ICLOUD PHOTO LIBRARY. I would recommend you
_DON’T USE ICLOUD PHOTO LIBRARY _at this time. 
  On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:39 am, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Oh Peter,
 I said I would get back to you when possible, I wish you had waited.
 I am busy with Clients work and really don’t have time at present
but reading your email I decided to reply to try to explain quickly
how the process works. 
 What you are now doing is Creating a NEW iPhoto Library (Duplicating
all the Media Files in iPhoto Library package)! You are not
understanding the iPhoto  Photos Directory structure... and how
‘Hard Links’ work so there is no duplication or extra space
required on the system 
 The Transition/Import from iPhoto to Photos has to be done on your
wife’s MBP where the Library files are in the correct locations to
link the two libraries using ‘Hard Links’.  
  HARD FACTS ABOUT HARD LINKS On import, Photos makes a HARD LINK to
all iPhoto media assets in its own library package, using the same
directory structure as iPhoto (The libraries say they’re roughly the
same size, but in fact, they’re sharing disk space via hard links).
Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than
existing in one place with an alias in a different location, _FILES
THAT ARE_ '_HARD LINKED' APPEAR TO LIVE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE, BUT
ONLY TAKE UP THE SPACE OF A SINGLE FILE._   __
 Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still
open it in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if
you do anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over
to the Photos version). 
 So what happens if you_ edit one of those files_? Something clever:
if I edit a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that
version is altered—but the version in the Photos library is
untouched.   _Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file
causes the link to break_. Now there are two different files, both
taking up disk space, living independently. For Mac users accustomed
to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, this one’s a bit of
a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to allow us to
MIGRATE TO PHOTOS WITHOUT DUPLICATING AN ENTIRE LIBRARY AND EATING ALL
OF OUR FREE DISK SPACE—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to
Photos because we don’t have the room. 
 The new Photos library references the same master images as your old
library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also
makes for an incredibly efficient migration process.  --- But because
of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. How to
correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP. 
From what I can ascertain from your emails -  A). On your wife's
MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these two files
IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct?  B). And your wife's MBP
only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this correct? C). And
when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this
correct - or what happens? 
 One suggestion I will make:   ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on
the  PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY does it open in PHOTOS? If 
NOT   _Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO 

Re: iPhoto Albums with Photo ?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

In iTunes - Go to File  Home Sharing - Choose 'Photos to Share with Apple TV'
Then select - Share Photos from PHOTOS
Select 'Selected Albums'
Then under Albums - Select which Albums you wish to share
Then click 'Apply'

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 26 Apr 2015, at 12:43 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I have finally done the Combo Upgrade.
 Had to add PHOTOS back in to my Apple TV Menu (via iTunes Menu on my Mac).
 But I can’t find my iPhoto Albums and Smart Albums.
 
 Does this mean I need to set them up again in Photo ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[Severin Crisp]

Pete
if other options fail go to Time Machine backups and regrab the iPhoto 
library.  Then start Photos while holding down the option key and select that 
library.  Photos should convert it and store the remodelled one, leaving the 
iPhoto library intact.  
Family adviser!


 On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new 
 Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without 
 issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch.
 
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see the 
 images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a new 
 user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up and directed it to the new 
 Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows in Get 
 Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture and 
 video files but how do I access it?
 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a cleaner 
 (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the cleaning 
 notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this was an 
 action of cleanmymac. So I selected Put Back and it in turn is now placed 
 alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location.
 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect 
 that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not 
 duplication) of image files.
 
 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.
 
 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups 
 during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice 
 anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned TM 
 back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong while 
 and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that and 
 thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done this 
 previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM backup to retrieve 
 anything in the 6 years of Mac ownership) decided I would delete the 
 Sparesebundle file and do a new Backup from scratch . I suspect that the 
 Preparing Backup routine spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the 
 Photos library in its normal home and detected there are two libraries to 
 back up hence the order of magnitude of the backup.
 
 Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where neither 
 iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous images. 
 
 When I launch iPhoto - I get a message Aperture needs updating so when I 
 try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not available in the 
 Australian Apple Store - so no good there
 
 When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select Albums, 
 I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as Albums and the names 
 of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos Events folder, but upon 
 opening, nothing is visible. Still no images.
 
 Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I still don't 
 understand why I can get at my images/videos?
 
 Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle?
 
 Pete :(
 
 
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hello Ronni

All that you gave me has put me back on my feet. Back up of 179.85 Gb !!! 
Rubbish all gone. Notes put away, just in case, I’ll now add the new 
information as well.

Thank you again Ronni, you really are a Gem’.

Kindest Regards

Tony
xoxox


YANGEBUP

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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Ronda Brown]

Thanks Tony,

I'm pleased everything is resolved.
I forgot to mention 'Check the Trash' in iPhoto. 
It's amazing how many people forget to 'Empty' the iPhoto Trash - and when I 
mention it, they check and empty it - and get back GBs of space that those 
hundreds of photos were taking up  ;-)

iPhoto  Empty iPhoto Trash.

Kindest Regards,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 9 Sep 2014, at 3:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Ronni
 
 All that you gave me has put me back on my feet. Back up of 179.85 Gb !!! 
 Rubbish all gone. Notes put away, just in case, I’ll now add the new 
 information as well.
 
 Thank you again Ronni, you really are a Gem’.
 
 Kindest Regards
 
 Tony
 xoxox
 
 
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hi Ronni

Yes, I emptied iPhoto rubbish yesterday, but only because I was browsing in 
iPhoto, I hadn’t given it a thought until then, thank you for the heads up.


Kindest Regards

Tony
xoxo


On 9 Sep 2014, at 4:24 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Thanks Tony,
 
 I'm pleased everything is resolved.
 I forgot to mention 'Check the Trash' in iPhoto. 
 It's amazing how many people forget to 'Empty' the iPhoto Trash - and when I 
 mention it, they check and empty it - and get back GBs of space that those 
 hundreds of photos were taking up  ;-)
 
 iPhoto  Empty iPhoto Trash.
 
 Kindest Regards,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 9 Sep 2014, at 3:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Ronni
 
 All that you gave me has put me back on my feet. Back up of 179.85 Gb !!! 
 Rubbish all gone. Notes put away, just in case, I’ll now add the new 
 information as well.
 
 Thank you again Ronni, you really are a Gem’.
 
 Kindest Regards
 
 Tony
 xoxox
 
 
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hi Ronni
Thank you for your prompt reply, as always.
I'm busy at present but will reply shortly, please, don't hold your breath.
Talk soon Ronni, thank you

Best wishes  Kindest regards
Tony
xoxo

Tony: Sent from my iPhone.

 On 8 Sep 2014, at 13:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tony,
 
 Firstly: What is your current backup plan... How are you backing up your 
 entire Mac computer? Are you using Time Machine for regular backups? 
 What OS X are you running - OS X 10.9.4?
 Are you using iPhoto'11 v9.5.1?
 -
 If you are wishing to have an extra backup just of your iPhoto Library onto 
 an External Drive.
 Make sure the external drive is formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' - 
 Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition Table. 
 You can check the format of the external drive in Disk Utility.
 
 If the External Drive is formatted correctly: You can create a backup by -   
 'Copy' the Entire 'iPhoto Library'to your external Hard Drive'
 Your iPhoto Library is located: in your Home Directory  (Home Folder)  
 Pictures - iPhoto Library. 
 
 1. Make sure iPhoto is Quit.
 2. Connect the External Drive to your Mac 
 3. Copy the entire iPhoto Library folder to the new drive. 
 
 That's the only way to copy the photos and the database, which includes 
 albums, keywords, and all other iPhoto metadata.
 
 4. Once copied, you can Option-launch iPhoto, choose the library on the 
 External Drive, and open it to check that it functions properly.
 
 Note: You'll have to Option-launch iPhoto and select your main library to get 
 back to it after you have tested the back-up.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2014, at 12:14 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello fellow Mac’ lovers
 
 Now, I have been on line, through all of my past notes and my “Keepers” 
 e-mails for past solutions before requesting your assistance.
 
 I have connected a Portable Had drive to my lap top with the intention of 
 backing up my iPhoto Library into it. In the past I have created some major 
 problems, and headaches for Ronni and Peter, for myself by trying to do it 
 on my own.
 
 Would someone be willing to give me the instructions required please to back 
 up my iPhoto’s Library to the Portable Hard Drive??
 
 Thank you
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Tony
 
 BODDINGTON.
 
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hello Ronni

Now to answer your questions, my goodness listen to the rain, my query is in 
regards to our older laptop, which I have taken over.

Due to other Mac’s in the House this Lap top has been ignored for a while. Not 
wanting to lose any photo’s I want to back up iPhoto and leave the computer to 
back up to the external hard drive on a regular basis.



Last Back up was 3 years ago, approximately.


Running OSX 10.9.4


iPhoto 08. Version 7.1.5 (378).


The external Hard Drive has been formatted.


One question, aside from the iPhoto request Ronni, how do I delete rubbish that 
is ‘Locked’?? I have 2 Movies in the bin and cannot delete them despite saying 
yes to “Do you want to delete the locked files”, I can’t seem to be able to 
delete them.

Thank you Ronni

Kindest Regards and best wishes

Tony
 xoxo



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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Tony,

My comments in Situ below

On 8 Sep 2014, at 8:55 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Ronni
 
 Now to answer your questions, my goodness listen to the rain, my query is in 
 regards to our older laptop, which I have taken over.
 
 Due to other Mac’s in the House this Lap top has been ignored for a while. 
 Not wanting to lose any photo’s I want to back up iPhoto and leave the 
 computer to back up to the external hard drive on a regular basis.

How large is the External Drive you have  formatted 'Mac OS Extended 
(Journaled)' - Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition Table? 
If there is nothing on the external drive,  and if it is 1  1/2 to 2 times 
larger than the hard drive on the computer use Time Machine to backup the whole 
system.

Time Machine will regularly backup everything on the Laptop... including iPhoto

NOTE: iPhoto must be closed 'Quit' when Time Machine does a backup, if iPhoto 
is left Open TM will not backup iPhoto.

 Last Back up was 3 years ago, approximately.
 
 
 Running OSX 10.9.4
 
 
 iPhoto 08. Version 7.1.5 (378).
 
 
 The external Hard Drive has been formatted.
 
 
 One question, aside from the iPhoto request Ronni, how do I delete rubbish 
 that is ‘Locked’?? I have 2 Movies in the bin and cannot delete them despite 
 saying yes to “Do you want to delete the locked files”, I can’t seem to be 
 able to delete them.

Hold down Shift + Option key while choosing 'Empty Trash'

If that doesn't empty the trash
Open Terminal.app
Paste this command  rm -r ~/.Trash
hit return key

Cheers,
Ronni
 
 Thank you Ronni
 
 Kindest Regards and best wishes
 
 Tony
  xoxo
 
 
 
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Ronda Brown]

Sorry Tony I made an error in my previous email... Sleep deprived - I did not 
sleep last night and badly need some sleep :(
You are running Mavericks
Go to Application  Utilities and open the Terminal app. 
At the prompt, copy/paste the following command 

rm -rf ~/.Trash/*

Hit Return
Then quit Terminal 

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 8 Sep 2014, at 10:16 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tony,
 
 My comments in Situ below
 
 On 8 Sep 2014, at 8:55 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Ronni
 
 Now to answer your questions, my goodness listen to the rain, my query is in 
 regards to our older laptop, which I have taken over.
 
 Due to other Mac’s in the House this Lap top has been ignored for a while. 
 Not wanting to lose any photo’s I want to back up iPhoto and leave the 
 computer to back up to the external hard drive on a regular basis.
 
 How large is the External Drive you have  formatted 'Mac OS Extended 
 (Journaled)' - Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition Table? 
 If there is nothing on the external drive,  and if it is 1  1/2 to 2 times 
 larger than the hard drive on the computer use Time Machine to backup the 
 whole system.
 
 Time Machine will regularly backup everything on the Laptop... including 
 iPhoto
 
 NOTE: iPhoto must be closed 'Quit' when Time Machine does a backup, if iPhoto 
 is left Open TM will not backup iPhoto.
 
 Last Back up was 3 years ago, approximately.
 
 
 Running OSX 10.9.4
 
 
 iPhoto 08. Version 7.1.5 (378).
 
 
 The external Hard Drive has been formatted.
 
 
 One question, aside from the iPhoto request Ronni, how do I delete rubbish 
 that is ‘Locked’?? I have 2 Movies in the bin and cannot delete them despite 
 saying yes to “Do you want to delete the locked files”, I can’t seem to be 
 able to delete them.
 
 Hold down Shift + Option key while choosing 'Empty Trash'
 
 If that doesn't empty the trash
 Open Terminal.app
 Paste this command  rm -r ~/.Trash
 hit return key
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Thank you Ronni
 
 Kindest Regards and best wishes
 
 Tony
  xoxo
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hello fellow Mac’ lovers

Now, I have been on line, through all of my past notes and my “Keepers” e-mails 
for past solutions before requesting your assistance.

I have connected a Portable Had drive to my lap top with the intention of 
backing up my iPhoto Library into it. In the past I have created some major 
problems, and headaches for Ronni and Peter, for myself by trying to do it on 
my own.

Would someone be willing to give me the instructions required please to back up 
my iPhoto’s Library to the Portable Hard Drive??

Thank you

Kind Regards

Tony

BODDINGTON.
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Re: iPhoto Library.

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Tony,

Firstly: What is your current backup plan... How are you backing up your entire 
Mac computer? Are you using Time Machine for regular backups? 
What OS X are you running - OS X 10.9.4?
Are you using iPhoto'11 v9.5.1?
-
If you are wishing to have an extra backup just of your iPhoto Library onto an 
External Drive.
Make sure the external drive is formatted 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)' - 
Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition Table. 
You can check the format of the external drive in Disk Utility.

If the External Drive is formatted correctly: You can create a backup by -   
'Copy' the Entire 'iPhoto Library'to your external Hard Drive'
Your iPhoto Library is located: in your Home Directory  (Home Folder)  
Pictures - iPhoto Library. 

1. Make sure iPhoto is Quit.
2. Connect the External Drive to your Mac 
3. Copy the entire iPhoto Library folder to the new drive. 

That's the only way to copy the photos and the database, which includes albums, 
keywords, and all other iPhoto metadata.

4. Once copied, you can Option-launch iPhoto, choose the library on the 
External Drive, and open it to check that it functions properly.

Note: You'll have to Option-launch iPhoto and select your main library to get 
back to it after you have tested the back-up.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 8 Sep 2014, at 12:14 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hello fellow Mac’ lovers
 
 Now, I have been on line, through all of my past notes and my “Keepers” 
 e-mails for past solutions before requesting your assistance.
 
 I have connected a Portable Had drive to my lap top with the intention of 
 backing up my iPhoto Library into it. In the past I have created some major 
 problems, and headaches for Ronni and Peter, for myself by trying to do it on 
 my own.
 
 Would someone be willing to give me the instructions required please to back 
 up my iPhoto’s Library to the Portable Hard Drive??
 
 Thank you
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Tony
 
 BODDINGTON.

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Re: iPhoto, guest user

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

I am thinking about your suggestion.

Thanks again

Cheers,
Walter
On 2 Jul 2014, at 13:51, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Walter,
 
 I sent this message to WAMUG just after 9am this morning, but WAMUG website  
 of course Mailing List was not online, it has only now come back online. So 
 I'm sending my reply again.
 
 You don't mention what OS X you are running or iPhoto version. I 'think' you 
 are running Mountain Lion or Mavericks.
 If so:
 Sharing your iPhoto library in the public folder is not supported under MacOS 
 X 10.8.x. or OS X 10.9
 That would give permission problems and you could corrupt your iPhoto Library.
 
 Perhaps you could use iCloud Photo Sharing.
 Create a shared photo stream to share photos Photo Sharing:  iPhoto - 
 Preferences -  iCloud Preferences - Photo Sharing
 Create a photo stream to share with just the people you choose.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9.4 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 2 Jul 2014, at 7:45 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 What if I create a special account for this guest ? If I turn file sharing 
 on can he then access iPhoto library
 or do I have to put the iPhoto library into the public folder first ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Cheers,
 Walter 
 On 2 Jul 2014, at 06:55, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 8:23 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 How can I make my iPhoto library available to a guest user who logs into 
 the guest account ?
 Have placed the iPhoto library into the public folder and then loaded it 
 into the guest home folder.
 But logging out of the guest user account removes the library. Is there an 
 easy way to share the photos  ?
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 When a Guest User logs out, all information and files in the Guest 
 Account's home Folder are deleted.
 
 Guests don’t need a password to log in. While logged in, they can’t change 
 user settings or computer settings. They also can’t log in remotely when 
 remote login is turned on in Sharing preferences. 
 Files created by a guest are stored in a temporary folder, but this folder 
 and its contents are deleted when the guest logs out.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Looking for any useful ideas.
 
 Cheers
 Walter
 
 
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Re: iPhoto, guest user

[Ronda Brown]

 On 1 Jul 2014, at 8:23 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 How can I make my iPhoto library available to a guest user who logs into the 
 guest account ?
 Have placed the iPhoto library into the public folder and then loaded it into 
 the guest home folder.
 But logging out of the guest user account removes the library. Is there an 
 easy way to share the photos  ?

Hi Walter,

When a Guest User logs out, all information and files in the Guest Account's 
home Folder are deleted.

Guests don’t need a password to log in. While logged in, they can’t change user 
settings or computer settings. They also can’t log in remotely when remote 
login is turned on in Sharing preferences. 
Files created by a guest are stored in a temporary folder, but this folder and 
its contents are deleted when the guest logs out.

Cheers,
Ronni
 
 Looking for any useful ideas.
 
 Cheers
 Walter
 
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Re: iPhoto, guest user

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Ronni,

Thanks for your reply.
What if I create a special account for this guest ? If I turn file sharing on 
can he then access iPhoto library
or do I have to put the iPhoto library into the public folder first ?

Thank you

Cheers,
Walter 
On 2 Jul 2014, at 06:55, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 
 
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 8:23 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 How can I make my iPhoto library available to a guest user who logs into the 
 guest account ?
 Have placed the iPhoto library into the public folder and then loaded it 
 into the guest home folder.
 But logging out of the guest user account removes the library. Is there an 
 easy way to share the photos  ?
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 When a Guest User logs out, all information and files in the Guest Account's 
 home Folder are deleted.
 
 Guests don’t need a password to log in. While logged in, they can’t change 
 user settings or computer settings. They also can’t log in remotely when 
 remote login is turned on in Sharing preferences. 
 Files created by a guest are stored in a temporary folder, but this folder 
 and its contents are deleted when the guest logs out.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Looking for any useful ideas.
 
 Cheers
 Walter
 
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Re: iPhoto, guest user

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Walter,

I sent this message to WAMUG just after 9am this morning, but WAMUG website  
of course Mailing List was not online, it has only now come back online. So I'm 
sending my reply again.

You don't mention what OS X you are running or iPhoto version. I 'think' you 
are running Mountain Lion or Mavericks.
If so:
Sharing your iPhoto library in the public folder is not supported under MacOS X 
10.8.x. or OS X 10.9
That would give permission problems and you could corrupt your iPhoto Library.

Perhaps you could use iCloud Photo Sharing.
Create a shared photo stream to share photos Photo Sharing:  iPhoto - 
Preferences -  iCloud Preferences - Photo Sharing
Create a photo stream to share with just the people you choose.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.4 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 2 Jul 2014, at 7:45 am, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 What if I create a special account for this guest ? If I turn file sharing on 
 can he then access iPhoto library
 or do I have to put the iPhoto library into the public folder first ?
 
 Thank you
 
 Cheers,
 Walter 
 On 2 Jul 2014, at 06:55, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 1 Jul 2014, at 8:23 pm, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 How can I make my iPhoto library available to a guest user who logs into 
 the guest account ?
 Have placed the iPhoto library into the public folder and then loaded it 
 into the guest home folder.
 But logging out of the guest user account removes the library. Is there an 
 easy way to share the photos  ?
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 When a Guest User logs out, all information and files in the Guest Account's 
 home Folder are deleted.
 
 Guests don’t need a password to log in. While logged in, they can’t change 
 user settings or computer settings. They also can’t log in remotely when 
 remote login is turned on in Sharing preferences. 
 Files created by a guest are stored in a temporary folder, but this folder 
 and its contents are deleted when the guest logs out.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Looking for any useful ideas.
 
 Cheers
 Walter
 

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Re: iPhoto email

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Michael,

Did you receive a message The email server didn’t recognize your 
username/password combination. 

Keep in mind, the error you see, is not coming from Apple, or your computer.  
It is coming from your email address server. If it states your user name or 
password is incorrect, then it is. 

To verifiy this, go to your email service providers web mail page, and try to 
log on here. If you need to, reset the password.

iPhoto simply sends the user name and password you have entered into it's 
preferences, and sends it to your email server.  They are the ones that 
confirm or decline if it is correct or not.

You will need to send the Photo via email again from iPhoto if this is the case.

Cheers,
Ronni
PS: did you locate your Attachments in Lion were saved to:
  ~/Library/Mail Downloads.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 25 Jun 2014, at 4:09 pm, Michael Hawkins 
 michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:
 
 I made a mistake with my password when I tried to email a photo from iPhoto 
 on my MacBook Pro. How do I correct the error without deleting the email and 
 starting again from scratch?
 
 iPhoto '11 version 9.4.3
 OS 10.7.5
 
 Thank you,
 
 Michael Hawkins.
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