[Wikimediauk-l] East Midlands Wikimedians?

2014-09-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
Are there any wikimedians in the East Midlands on this list or that you
know who may be interested in helping with a meeting with one of our MEPs
on copyright reform? I am working with Dimi who is based in Brussels and
Stevie at WMUK and we are trying to contact all relevant MEPs to brief them
on the items we would like to see in this work. More details are here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Statement_of_Intent

Please could you get in touch with me offlist if you are interested and
able to help with this. For information, East Midlands includes
everywhere from the Peak District and Chesterfield down to Derby,
Nottingham and Lincoln and then as far south as Northampton and Corby, as
per the following map:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:East_Midlands_counties_2009_map.svg

Many thanks for any help you could give.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Draft EGM resolutions

2013-03-06 Thread Andrew Turvey
When the chapter was set up back in 2008 we had had the recent experience -
the so-called Wikimedia UK v1 - of a board which had been established,
wasn't functioning well but the community was unable to correct this
situation.  For that reason the new chapter, when it managed to
set itself up said we are committing now to being open, transparent and
democratic from the get go

http://uk.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Pageoldid=1852

The explanatory notes that accompanied the original Articles of Association
proclaimed that *our charity will be member-led **and we want the norm to
be that directors are elected by the members***

A member-led organisation - imagine that?  In simple terms, an
organisation that trusts the 5,000-strong UK Wikimedia community more than
a handful of people who currently sit on the board.

My goodness how far away has the chapter gone from those original values.

First step down the slippery slope was the move towards two-year terms. Now
we have these bonkers changes drempt up by a consultancy who took no
consideration whatsoever of our particular values and want to
model ourselves on other board-led charities. Guess what, we know how other
charities are run and make a conscious decision at the start to do
something different. After all, no other encyclopedias are written by
non-specialists. Wikipedia was the first major website to give its entire
content away under a free license. No other major website is run by a
charity.  Of course we're different. That's the bloody point.

For goodness sake, they even want to change the articles to get some
complex provision in there that means there would never be a majority of
directors up for election in a single year - because god forbid that the
community would actually wanting to kick out a poorly-performing board en
mass. God forbid the board should be subject to any accountability for
their performance.

All I can say is thank goodness we don't have a board that is poorly
performing, divided, poorly led, losing control of the direction of the
charity, losing their major source of income or anything like that.

Because who knows what would happen then?

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:



 Obviously it will be for the membership to decide whether to accept or
 reject these particular recommendations but it would be great if you could
 review the draft amendments at this stage.

 Please do read, consider and comment, here:
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013/Draft_Resolutions


 PS. Just to clarify, these are resolutions as drafted by our lawyers: they
 have not yet been reviewed by the Board - obviously it remains important
 that we draft things in public where we can!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Greyham Dawes co-opted to the Board of Wikimedia UK

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew Turvey
Thanks Chris  Jon for providing the context.

Clearly Grayham will bring some valuable experience to the board and it's
great to have him involved. However, it's less clear how he will meet the
other requirements of being a trustee, in particular understanding the
Wikimedia culture of openness and volunteer leadership.  Has the board
arranged anything for his trustee induction to fill these gaps?

In particular, the Treasurer plays a key role in ensuring that certain
standards of openness and accountability set out in the Finance Policy,
such as: [1]

The key principles underlying this policy are ... financial reporting is
clearly expressed and highly transparent
Individual expense claims are normally published on the office wiki
(Administrator) with a summary of the claims posted on the public wiki
Office expenses and the Chief Executive's expenses are published on the
public wiki in summary form **
Monthly financial reports to be published on the public wiki

** Interesting to see this was watered down at the last board meeting,
although it's unclear if even the watered-down version has ever been
implemented.

Is Grayham planning to introduce himself to the community or engage on this
list or on the wiki? It's notable that he responded to the advert but then
didn't come to the board interest day and didn't put himself up for
election. I would be interested to hear his explanation for why this was
the case.

I presume this decision was taken at the last board meeting on 9-10
February. It's very disappointing that the draft minutes of the last board
meeting still haven't been published, a week and a half after the meeting.
I asked when this would be published over a week ago and was told that a
reasonably final draft was available on Sunday. Chapter policy says
that Volunteers
are encouraged to ... hold the Trustees and staff to account, through
public and private discussion. [2] It's impossible to do this if we're not
even allowed to see on a timely basis the decisions that are being made by
the board.

Regards,

Andrew

[1] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy
[2] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_Policy

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 We received 13 final applications. From this six were shorlisted to attend
 our board interest day. Two stood for election, one was elected and one
 subsequently co-opted. Greyham, as Chris explained, emerged over the last
 couple of months as we had a vacancy.

 Are your chapter thinking of a similar exercise? If so would be happy to
 liaise.

 Jon


 On 17 February 2013 09:28, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Chris for the context, some of which appears to have been
 omitted from the governance review.  I am a bit surprised by that.

 I'm guessing that Greyham didn't respond to the call to the community ;-)

 How many responses did you receive from the advert in the Third Sector?


 I think the review notes we engaged in a proactive trustee search
 exercise, though it doesn't go into any more detail.

 Jon D would know the answer, but I think answer was somewhere in the
 dozens.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for Tellers

2013-02-15 Thread Andrew Turvey
EGM? Is this still planned given the governance recommendations?
On Feb 15, 2013 12:23 PM, Richard Symonds 
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 All,

 At present, myself and LondonStatto are likely to be tellers for the AGM
 (and the planned EGM). However, I'm hoping that there will be someone else
 who would be willing to step forward to help administer the election in an
 impartial manner (eg counting votes, deciding lengths of statements, etc.
 This would need a few visits to the office (expenses paid) and a little bit
 of a time commitment. Prior experience would be helpful but not necessary.

 If you're interested, please let me know privately.

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[Wikimediauk-l] WMF withdraws support from WCA

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Turvey
I see the Foundation has withdrawn their support for the Wikimedia Chapters
Association, the cross-chapters partnership that WMUK backed. Their
statement included some significant criticisms about the way the WCA has
been implemented, something that individual Foundation board members
expanded on in their personal comments further down the page.

I understand that the WCA Council is meeting on 16th February to discuss
this but I wanted to ask if WMUK was planning to review its involvement in
the WCA and to review for itself what went wrong in its implementation?

Thanks,

Andrew


https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Chapters_Association#WMF_Board_letter_regarding_the_Chapters_Association

WMF Board letter regarding the Chapters Association

At our February 2 Board meeting, we spent several hours discussing the
proposed Chapters Association and its potential role in the Wikimedia
movement.

Despite our initial optimism, we have now reluctantly concluded that the
proposed Chapters Association is unlikely to advance the Wikimedia mission
significantly. We encouraged the concept in its early stages, but in light
of the implementation to date, we regretfully have come to believe it will
not be successful.

In our opinion, the Chapters Association hasn’t made a persuasive case that
it will be effective. We believe that during its development thus far, it
has not consulted sufficiently with movement stakeholders. We are concerned
that it will not be equipped to offer oversight, which would be essential
for an entity expected to provide governance support and oversight for the
chapters. Considering its proposed role in the movement as well as the
demand it would place on movement resources, we believe these factors are
decisive.

Our reservations about the Chapters Association are serious, and we have
difficulty envisioning circumstances in which the Wikimedia Foundation
would be able to recognize it. That said, we believe in individuals and
movement entities organising themselves to support each other, and that
successful models for this exist.

We are acting now because of the recent call for hiring of the Secretary
General by the Chapters Association and its apparent plans to incorporate
soon.

We acknowledge that significant time and effort have been put into this
initiative, and understand that some people will be disappointed by this
conclusion. We welcome your comments.

For the Wikimedia board, Kat
Walshhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mindspillage
 (spill your mind?)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mindspillage 05:26,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF withdraws support from WCA

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Turvey
That's an interesting way of putting it! However, now that the WMF has come
out against, is there any way that the WCA can fulfill its stated aims?
Furthermore, if WMUK continues to support the WCA, will this damage the
chapter's relationship with the Foundation?
On Feb 6, 2013 9:12 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6 February 2013 21:07, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  I see the Foundation has withdrawn their support for the Wikimedia
 Chapters
  Association, the cross-chapters partnership that WMUK backed.

 To be honest, it never really offered any support in the first
 place... they said they liked the idea, but that's as far as it got.
 They haven't withdrawn their support, they've said they aren't going
 to be giving any support - subtly different!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board

2012-10-13 Thread Andrew Turvey
As I've said directly on the blog post I personally appreciate that the
board is willing to acknowledge that mistakes have been made and understand
that damage has been caused.

It is very hard for the board to go into any details while the review is
ongoing. That will inevitably come up with detailed findings and
recommendations and the board will have an opportunity to respond in detail
at that stage. Particularly if there is a range of views on the board, I
don't see the point of going into detail at the moment.

As I've mentioned before, I do hope the board agree to publish the terms of
reference so the community can start to have a conversation about the
detail before waiting for the review to complete.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 The board needs to learn how to write a statement that actually says
 something...

 Apologising for mistakes is meaningless if you don't acknowledge what
 those mistakes are. This statement comes across as defensive and empty
 of actual content.

 What have you done wrong? What are you doing about fixing the problems
 caused by those mistakes and making sure similar mistakes don't happen
 again? That's what people want to know. If you want to wait until the
 review is complete before going into details, then say that. Don't
 post this kind of meaningless drivel.

 On 13 October 2012 19:43, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  I thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that Wikimedia UK has just
  published its latest blog post. The post is a message to our community
 from
  the Board of Trustees.
 
  You can find the blog post at
 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/10/a-message-from-the-wikimedia-uk-board/
 
  As ever, please do feel free to get in touch with your comments.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent review: timetable

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Turvey
As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent
developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself
what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help
to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.

I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem to
be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to pull
together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The board
seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from Jon
who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would definitely
recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in as well
and hear for themselves.

Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that
they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need
to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also
have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be
prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's
happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel
inclined?

Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the blog
post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly include a
description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any reason
on the surface not to do this at this stage.

Many thanks,

[1]
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/

Andrew

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Charity Commission indeed.


 On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment
 of the independent reviewer:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12

 Just out of interest, where it refers to a preference to the ex-CC
 candidate, am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission
 rather than Creative Commons?

 Andreas


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as
 possible.


 On 4 October 2012 15:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 What is the timetable for the forthcoming independent review?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent review: timetable

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Turvey
I got the impression it had been negotiated in conjunction with the WMF and
the reviewer candidates so I think it's too late for that - but the
board/Jon can confirm.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can we have a look before it gets to the final version so that when it
 goes to wmf and reviewer it has our suggestions for consideration

 Joe
 On Oct 11, 2012 8:26 PM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 As with many other members I've been quite concerned with recent
 developments so I dialled into this public board meeting to hear for myself
 what was happening. I hope that showing an interest can be some help
 to the board in pulling together and repairing the damage.

 I was actually quite impressed with what I heard. Although trustees seem
 to be feeling bruised by it all, it was good to see the board starting to
 pull together and start focussing on what can be done in the future. The
 board seemed very well advised both from their lawyers Stone King and from
 Jon who are both playing a very positive role in all this. I would
 definitely recommend anyone else who is interested and available to dial in
 as well and hear for themselves.

 Regarding the terms of reference of the review, the minutes mention that
 they have been approved by WMUK. I got the impression that they still need
 to be signed off by the WMF and presumably the reviewer themselves may also
 have tweaks they want to make. When this is all done, would the board be
 prepared to publish the Terms of Reference so the community can see what's
 happening, see the timetable and can put their tu-p-orth in as they feel
 inclined?

 Given that the final report is going to be published (according to the
 blog post [1] that announced the review) and the report will clearly
 include a description of the terms of reference, I can't see to be any
 reason on the surface not to do this at this stage.

 Many thanks,

 [1]
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/

 Andrew

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jon Davies 
 jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:

 Charity Commission indeed.


 On 10 October 2012 14:45, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Minutes have been posted of a 9Oct12 meeting discussing the appointment
 of the independent reviewer:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Oct12

 Just out of interest, where it refers to a preference to the ex-CC
 candidate, am I correct in assuming that CC stands for Charity Commission
 rather than Creative Commons?

 Andreas


 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:

 We are still discussing this and will publish the details as soon as
 possible.


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[Wikimediauk-l] Annual accounts

2012-10-06 Thread Andrew Turvey
Looking at Companies House, I notice that the annual accounts have yet been
filed and are due at the end of the month. This caused considerable issues
in the past so I wondered whether these were now complete? If not, is there
a risk that they will be late?

If so, I suggest you bring this to the attention of the Foundation
immediately.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Annual accounts

2012-10-06 Thread Andrew Turvey
For completeness, can I also mention that you don't appear to have filed
the form AP01 with Companies House regarding the appointment of Saad [1]
nor the revised Articles of Association which were approved at the AGM
regarding Scottish charity compliance and 2 year director terms.

[1]
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/wikimedia-uk-appoints-saad-choudri-to-its-board/

Regards,

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 Looking at Companies House, I notice that the annual accounts have yet
 been filed and are due at the end of the month. This caused considerable
 issues in the past so I wondered whether these were now complete? If not,
 is there a risk that they will be late?

 If so, I suggest you bring this to the attention of the Foundation
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Telegraph error

2012-10-03 Thread Andrew Turvey
I though this was a largely accurate article without any major errors. Far
better than most media articles!

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 The DT are reporting that Wikimedia UK has been barred from
 processing donations:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9581813/Wikipedia-charity-faces-investigation-over-trustee-conflict-of-interest.html

  Can we get this error corrected ASAP? It's also in the Wikipedia
 article on Gibraltarpedia.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Social enterprise

2012-10-03 Thread Andrew Turvey
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:53 AM, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:


 Essentially this would require the Board making a decision that it was
 interested in looking into the idea and setting up a steering committee to
 take the matter forward. This could be done with a limited amount of
 officer time.


The board would have to consult the Wikimedia Foundation and the English
Wikipedia community on this and would be ill-advised (particularly in light
of recent events) to go ahead with this decision without their support. In
particular, jimbo's recent signpost article [1] seems fairly opposed to
this direction of travel.

[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-10-01/Paid_editing

If you're serious about taking this forward, I think you need to flesh out
the proposals and see how they fit in with en-wp policies and statements of
Foundation board members before it can be submitted to the WMUK board.

Why don't you set up a wiki page to gather ideas?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-10-02 Thread Andrew Turvey
If we pencil in 9-10 Feb for the EGM then we have until, say, the end of
November to discuss and agree on the proposal. I do think we need to have a
reasoned argument set out in favour of the change before we call the EGM
itself - after all a constitution is not something that we should tinker
with lightly, hence the requirement for it to pass with a 75% change.

I've started this:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AndrewRT/Why_change_the_voting_system#What_won.27t_change

bringing together the arguments that various people have already made on
this list. Please go ahead and expand!

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 This could run and run! How about a guillotine motion?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] social enterprise

2012-10-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
Fabian,

Thanks for this very interesting idea. I've also thought that there are a
number of opportunities in this space derived from the wikimedia projects
that aren't entirely suited to a registered charity.

A number of UK charities manage to combine an enterprise through a trading
subsidiary. Would this idea work through such a vehicle?

Regards,

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:24 PM, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I would like to thank Thomas Morton for his well thought explanation
 addressed to Roger (Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:51:10 +0100). It covered a number
 of points I felt need addressing and Tom put them in a useful and tactful
 way - much better than I could have hoped to do.

 However, I would like to address some ramifications of this.

 This is one reason why charities are often run by older, retired, types
 who
 do not need to go out and earn a living.

 Quite so. However, one of the consequences of the phenomenal success of WP
 is that the potential development of where we are now has created space
 for activity beyond that which WMUK as a charity is best placed to carry
 out.

 a) Wikiversity has a great potential, however the development of such a
 repository of Open Educational Resources (OERs) will be very slow without
 people being paid - not so much for editing but for delivering teaching
 which uses WV as a platform, creating OERs free for other people to use.
 The dynamic for this is quite different from WP and Wikicommons.

 I have not been involved in all the sister projects, but suspect that they
 will each have their own dynamic, which needs to be addressed in its own
 terms.

 b) Linked to a) is the delivery of training in how to use WP. It seems to
 me very straight forward to see WV as an ideal platform for this. There is
 also much to be learnt from WikiEducator, which uses a Mediawiki in
 conjunction wit the moodle software.

 c) Another aspect of this is that I have noticed that some of the people
 who attend WMUK training sessions are people who are employed by learned
 societies as Social Media Officers. While I find volunteering to train
 other volunteers quite attractive, when it comes to giving time freely in
 order help in the training for paid workers of organisations I am
 confident that i am not the only person who finds this a bit awkward.
 Likewise as we welcome academics who stipulate that their students achieve
 certain goals in order to pass a course, this to me creates a market for
 delivering training outside a volunteer - to -volunteer framework.

 Aside from the problems which have arisen from Roger being a trustee, I
 think the work he has done is amazing and really innovative. I would like
 to see it continue. However what I feel would really facilitate this is
 the creation of a not-for-profit social enterprise which would provide a
 structured way in which innovations like QRpedia could be placed in
 relation to both WMUK, WMF and the broader community.

 I feel that our community has an amazing range of diverse talents, and
 that if the possibilities provoked by WPs success are to be realised, then
 we need to develop a way in which the ethos of unpaid editing of WP itself
 can be balanced with other roles which are emerging which are peripheral
 to editing but which can greatly enhance WP and its sister projects.

 I hope that the recent experiences at WMUK will stimulate a discussion
 about how such a social enterprise might be set up, how the ethos of
 collaborative working and sharing of resources might be taken forward, how
 this can be done in a way which does not disrupt the very success which WP
 has enjoyed, and how such a social enterprise can contribute towards
 fundraising for WMUK to deliver its charitable goals.

 If such a discussion is got going now, there is some prospect that we
 could have a concrete proposal which has been mulled over by the community
 in time for the next AGM.

 As Tom said:

 Bottom line; you (as a board), we even, fucked up. Not maliciously, but
 very badly. You lost sight of the wider objective.

 But it's not something to beat each other up over. Learn from it, make
 improvements, move on.

 I am proposing this as a way of moving on in a way which keeps people like
 Roger with their brilliant ideas involved but not as trustees.

 all the best

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-30 Thread Andrew Turvey
Thanks for this WSC, this is a great start. However, I'm not sure it
describes what's broken with the current system - what factions do we
actually have that are under-represented in the board due to the current
system?

I wonder whether this model actually reflects how people tend to vote in
WMUK elections. Just looking at the results, there seems to be little in
the way of factionalisation.

Would adoption of STV encourage greater factionalisation and if it does
would this be a good thing?

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:04 AM, WereSpielChequers 
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:


 Re Andrew's request for a clear statement setting out the reasons for the
 change.

 The difference between STV and a majoritarian system is that if you have a
 community where factions have emerged then STV ensures that all significant
 factions can see someone elected who they approve of. By contrast a
 majoritarian system is by its nature winner takes all and you can have a
 result where everyone associated with
 a particular significant viewpoint is not elected. If you are confident
 that you will be in the majority then it may seem logical to support a
 majoritarian system. If you aren't sure if you'd be in the majority then it
 makes sense to support a system such as STV. If you are somewhat irritated
 by the bickering and want a representative board with the most sensible
 people regardless of their stance on certain controversies then you
 desperately need a system such as STV. If in a divided organisation a
 narrow majority gets a clean sweep in the elections for the committee it is
 very difficult if not impossible for the resulting committee to reunite the
 organisation and defuse tensions.


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 On 29 September 2012 21:55, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On a different note...

 Regarding the switch from approval voting to STV (or whatever) what I
 think is missing the most is a clear statement setting out the reasons for
 the change (i.e. what's broken and how would this change fix it).

 I've also suggested a tweak to the EGM motion on the page (hope this is
 ok to do there)

 Lastly, we could do with pencilling in a date for the EGM - how about
 coinciding with the board meeting 9-10 February 2013 - and aim to do it by
 electronic voting as much as possible.

 Regards,

 Andrew

 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:26 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK, here's a very quick first draft of the motion and election rules for
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Joint statement with the Foundation

2012-09-29 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi Jan-Bart and others,

I would hope we can wait until we hear the results of the review before
jumping to the conclusion that what has gone on is highly irregular
(which incidentally, clearly *is *an accusation of wrong doing). There are
certainly allegations that have been made that are of serious concern but I
would hope people are able to wait to see the evidence and the report
before assuming they are well founded.

In the meantime, everyone involved is clearly going through a very
difficult time so I hope we are able to pull together, work through this
and we can come through a stronger chapter at the end.

Regards,

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 Hi

 It doesn't work like that, as I indicated there have been some (highly)
 irregular activities in the past months (which is not the same as what you
 state below). The timing is such that a decision on Payment Processing
 (which is indeed not the same as fundraising or applying to the FDC, but is
 actually quite separate) had to be made now. After what I know was a lot of
 consultation both ways this is the conclusion that we arrived at.

 Please don't read more into this than that. Its not a power grab and its
 not an accusation of wrongdoing, its what we feel is the right thing to do
 under the difficult circumstances.

 (oh and payment processing is actually work, it does not get done
 automatically)

 Jan-Bart de Vreede
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 On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:07, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

  On 29/09/2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote:
  Hi James (and others)
 
  What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume
  bad faith on the part of the WMF. At this point everyone should be
  concerned about the fact that over the past months we have had several
  (highly) irregular activities within the UK chapter. It is important
  that we (as in the movement) conduct a thorough review to see what the
  complete facts are so that we can make sure that we can learn from this
  and draw proper conclusions.
 
  Woah, hold it right there Jan-bart. What *I* find puzzling is how you
 (personally and WMF in general) assumes that Wikimedia UK has done wrong
 before this supposedly independent review has started never mind been
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Joint statement with the Foundation

2012-09-29 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi Jan-Bart,

Don't worry, I understand, irregular is often used as a euphemism for
improper but I guess that's something that a non-native speaker may not
necessarily be aware of.

At the same time I should have said I think the Foundation's actions are
understandable and reasonable in the circumstances, even if they are very
disappointing. These are serious allegations after all.

Regards,

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede jdevre...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 Hi

 Thank you Andrew, although I must confess that I thought that my English
 was very good I apparently chose the wrong words. What I meant to convey
 was unusual and unusual enough to warrant further review…

 Jan-Bart


 On 29 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Jan-Bart and others,

 I would hope we can wait until we hear the results of the review before
 jumping to the conclusion that what has gone on is highly irregular
 (which incidentally, clearly *is *an accusation of wrong doing). There
 are certainly allegations that have been made that are of serious concern
 but I would hope people are able to wait to see the evidence and the report
 before assuming they are well founded.

 In the meantime, everyone involved is clearly going through a very
 difficult time so I hope we are able to pull together, work through this
 and we can come through a stronger chapter at the end.

 Regards,

 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede 
 jdevre...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi

 It doesn't work like that, as I indicated there have been some (highly)
 irregular activities in the past months (which is not the same as what you
 state below). The timing is such that a decision on Payment Processing
 (which is indeed not the same as fundraising or applying to the FDC, but is
 actually quite separate) had to be made now. After what I know was a lot of
 consultation both ways this is the conclusion that we arrived at.

 Please don't read more into this than that. Its not a power grab and its
 not an accusation of wrongdoing, its what we feel is the right thing to do
 under the difficult circumstances.

 (oh and payment processing is actually work, it does not get done
 automatically)

 Jan-Bart de Vreede
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 On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:07, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

  On 29/09/2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote:
  Hi James (and others)
 
  What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume
  bad faith on the part of the WMF. At this point everyone should be
  concerned about the fact that over the past months we have had several
  (highly) irregular activities within the UK chapter. It is important
  that we (as in the movement) conduct a thorough review to see what the
  complete facts are so that we can make sure that we can learn from this
  and draw proper conclusions.
 
  Woah, hold it right there Jan-bart. What *I* find puzzling is how you
 (personally and WMF in general) assumes that Wikimedia UK has done wrong
 before this supposedly independent review has started never mind been
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

2012-09-29 Thread Andrew Turvey
On a different note...

Regarding the switch from approval voting to STV (or whatever) what I think
is missing the most is a clear statement setting out the reasons for the
change (i.e. what's broken and how would this change fix it).

I've also suggested a tweak to the EGM motion on the page (hope this is ok
to do there)

Lastly, we could do with pencilling in a date for the EGM - how about
coinciding with the board meeting 9-10 February 2013 - and aim to do it by
electronic voting as much as possible.

Regards,

Andrew

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:26 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK, here's a very quick first draft of the motion and election rules for
 STV.


 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_EGM_Motion_on_Voting_System


 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_STV_Election_Rules


 Thoughts, questions, suggestions all gratefully received. I'm not at work
 tomorrow so will do my best to monitor email/talk pages.

 J.


 On 17 September 2012 23:03, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 Certainly my sense of the various discussions over the past 18 months is
 that there's near-consensus on STV as the best alternative to the current
 system. I intend to draft a motion with new election rules for STV; if
 anyone has other systems they'd like to put forward I'll be happy to draft
 election rules for them.

 However, if we have more than two systems to choose between, we then have
 to decide which system to choose to decide which system we use...


 On 17 September 2012 22:54, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 The problem probably lies with the volume of business on each board
 meeting agenda. We're only just keeping up with the business, and as much
 as I'd like to see a constructive discussion and a positive decision made
 on the future election process, I personally won't find the time in the
 near future to organise an EGM.

 I'm encouraged by James' offer, and the more volunteers we have who
 would be willing to devote some time into defining the parameters for
 discussion (maybe a proposer and seconder for a resolution?), or suggesting
 possible timescales and venues for an EGM, the easier it gets to fulfil our
 commitment to having a new process in place by the next AGM.

 All contributions are welcome.

 --
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 On 17 September 2012 22:24, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now that I am no longer in the process of getting married, I can start
 making some progress on this.
 On Sep 17, 2012 9:48 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
  wrote:

 Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the
 no: are you confirming there has been no communication/decision on the
 issue on board level, or do you confirm there will be no such EGM (as far
 as the board is concerned)?


 There has been no progress. :-)

 Personally I would quite like some progress, and think we ought to use
 STV - it would be great if people could get drafting resolutions.

 Thanks,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Joint statement with the Foundation

2012-09-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
Yes, David, sounds like it.

The opening to this week's signpost article seems to sum it up the
situation:

In the second controversy to engulf Wikimedia UK in two months...

Both controversies seemed to have damaged the relationship between the
chapter and the editing communities, in particular on English Wikipedia. I
think we need to get together a plan, if we haven't got one already, for
how to engage better and build stronger links. After all, this is where
most of the chapter's members, activists and income comes from.

Has any thought been put into this?

Andrew

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 On 28 September 2012 21:14, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'd like to draw to your attention this joint statement with the
 Foundation
  which I have just, with the authority of the Board, posted on our blog
  regarding the management of conflicts of interests and this year's
  fundraiser.
 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/joint-statement-from-wikimedia-foundation-and-wikimedia-uk/


 Right, so money-SF and so much for Gift Aid?


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[Wikimediauk-l] Status of the five year plan

2012-09-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
I appreciate that recent events have overtaken things to an extent but I
wondered what the status is with
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Five_Year_Plan? On the page ist says This
version will be discussed at a special board meeting to be held during
Wikimania in Washington - did that happen?

It seems in fairly good shape, although it could do with a section saying
how progress towards achieving the plan will be reviewed. The best thing
may be to adopt it as is until the next review.

We do five year plans at our work and they work in a rolling format - i.e.
each year you do another five year plan based on the last and extending out
another year. This works fairly well and I'd recommend it as an approach.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Status of this list and its archives

2012-08-17 Thread Andrew Turvey
-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
Date: 16 Aug 2012 13:56
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Status of this list and its archives
To: HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com

Likewise I think this is a good decision. A truly public mailing list is a
valuable thing in many ways, just like a wiki history tab. For instance it
will let people years in the future understand the background to decisions
made by the chapter today, even after the people have moved on and
forgotten.

We already have cases on 'linkrot' where chapter minutes or other wikipages
are linking to mailing list archives that no longer work. This decision
will make that less likely in the future.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK staff policies

2012-02-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Feb 10, 2012 12:48 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2012 4:14 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
  
   On 09/02/2012 15:14, Richard Symonds wrote:
  
  
   Hope this makes sense!
  
   I have been a volunteer editor at Wikipedia for about since 2004 (25th
 January 2004 at 23:13 or possibly earlier).
  
   Are these volunteers you mention in the same class?
 
  No. I started editing in 2003. Newbie

 My first registered edit was in 2002. Who's the newbie now? ;)


31 October 2005. I'm practically a baby! :)
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[Wikimediauk-l] Survey about WikiConference UK 2011

2011-04-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
For people who are on this list but didn't register via EventBrite.
Apologies to anyone who gets this message twice.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Wikimedia UK cont...@eventbrite.com
Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Subject: Message to attendees of WikiConference UK 2011
To: andrewrtur...@googlemail.com


 If you joined us at the WikiConference UK
2011http://wikiconferenceuk2011.eventbrite.com/last weekend, we hope
you enjoyed it and welcome any feedback about the
event. We have created a short survey at
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MKT3Q6N - please take a short time to complete
this so we can see what people enjoyed and how we can make it even better
next year!

Many thanks!



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election of directors - Candidate statements and ballot paper

2011-04-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Andrew West andrewcw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Totally agree.  I think it is reasonable that candidates should be
 asked to reveal their wikimedia user names (I'm not sure it should be
 made compulsory though), but demanding that they reveal all their
 multifarious online identities unrelated to wikimedia is going way too
 far, and would be an unenforceable and unwarranted invasion of
 privacy.

 Andrew

Personally I would also agree. We also have to balance the need for
voters to have all the information they reasonably require to make
their decision with a need to encourage people to come forward to
stand for election.

Pseudonymity is still very much a part of the internet, and many
people still run blogs, twitter accounts and so forth on that basis.
If they're not related to Wikimedia, I'm not sure I understand why
people should be compelled to reveal them - or indeed how such a rule
could ever be enforced.

I'd rather leave it up to the voters to decide.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election of directors - Candidate statements and ballot paper

2011-04-10 Thread Andrew Turvey
I think it would probably sit better in the election rules - these have been
entrenched so have the same status as the articles.

I'm happy to assist anyone who wants to have this change debated at the agm.

Andrew Turvey

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On 8 April 2011 10:48, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 10:31, Andrew Turv...
You want to amend the Articles of Association to that effect? I think
that's the only way of making it properly binding. It's too late to
propose such a motion for this AGM, I think, but you can propose it
next year (I would probably vote for it, actually).


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Annual Conference AGM

2011-04-02 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi all,

Just a reminder for anyone who is thinking about standing for election
to the Board, the deadline for nominations is midnight this evening. A
simple email is all it takes - details are in the notice below.

As you know, we currently have three empty spaces on the board in
addition to the four people who are standing for re-election. We had a
good turn out to the Board interest day a few weeks ago and we are
all looking forward to getting an influx of new board members to help
with the exciting things ahead for us this year.

I've put together a proposed list of meeting dates for next year at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings#2011-2012 (subject of course to
the agreement of the next board) if you want a better picture of what
is involved.

Please get in touch with me or any other board member if you have any
questions on this.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Company Secretary
Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
United Kingdom.


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Andrew Turvey
andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Please find forwarded below the message that was sent to all the
 members of Wikimedia UK this morning.

 If you're not a member of the chapter yet and would like to get
 involved in the AGM, it's not too late. The easiest way is through the
 online application form at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership

 If you are a member but haven't received the message below please let
 me know as we may have an error in your records.

 Regards,

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair  Company Secretary, Wikimedia UK


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:25 AM
 Subject: Wikimedia UK Annual Conference  AGM
 To: off...@wikimedia.org.uk
 Bcc: [memberslist]


 Dear Member,

 Thank you for being a member of Wikimedia UK - the movement promoting
 and supporting Wikipedia, its sister projects and open content here in
 the UK. We are now over two years old. We have made a real impact in
 the last year, hosting a major GLAM-WIKI conference, celebrations
 around the 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia and, last month, BRIS-WIKI -
 a conference about Wikipedia in Bristol.

 This year has also seen significant growth in Wikimedia UK: our income
 has topped £500,000, our membership is now close to 200 and we
 employed our first member of staff. Next year we have many exciting
 plans, but we need you to be involved to make that happen!

 Our Annual Conference and Annual General Meeting will be held on
 Saturday 16th April at the The Watershed Media Centre, Bristol. There
 will be a full programme of events starting at 9:30am and finishing at
 5:00pm, including speakers, panel discussions and the business of the
 AGM itself at 1pm. Please come along to hear what we have achieved and
 help us plan our activities for the future.

 The address of the venue is:

    Watershed Media Centre
    1 Canon's Rd, Harbourside
    Bristol, BS1 5TX

 Bristol is easy to get to via car, bus, train or airplane. Directions
 to the venue can be found on Watershed's website at
 http://www.watershed.co.uk/info/access.php. For National Express buses
 to Bristol, see their website at
 http://www.nationalexpress.com/coach/destinations/england/south-west/bristol/bristol-introduction.aspx.
 Hotel options if you plan to stay over are shown on our main wiki page
 at 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011#Getting_to_the_conference

 If you need financial support to attend the conference, please contact
 User:Mike Peel via the wiki page.

 So that we can plan for the right number of people, if you are
 attending, it would help us if you could register for the event via
 EventBrite at http://wikiconferenceuk2011.eventbrite.com/

 AGM

 The official AGM will run from 1pm to 3pm and cover the annual report,
 election of a new Board of Trustees and five official motions listed
 below. Would you like to stand as a member of the board?

 Next year is set to be another big and exciting year of growth for
 Wikimedia UK: we plan to recruit several more members of staff so we
 can scale up our activities, enable more activity by volunteers and
 professionalise the chapter. Our own developer, events organiser, a
 full time office manager and a chapter manager pulling everything
 together will no doubt transform Wikimedia UK. This is an exciting
 time to be part of the board of trustees and there will be a real
 opportunity to make a difference and influence the future direction of
 the chapter.

 We expect that being a board member will take up at least three hours
 per week. We expect that the Board will meet once every four to six
 weeks, with one meeting in person every three months. We also hope
 that directors take
 a lead in chapter projects outside meetings. However

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikimedia UK Annual Conference AGM

2011-03-24 Thread Andrew Turvey
Please find forwarded below the message that was sent to all the
members of Wikimedia UK this morning.

If you're not a member of the chapter yet and would like to get
involved in the AGM, it's not too late. The easiest way is through the
online application form at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership

If you are a member but haven't received the message below please let
me know as we may have an error in your records.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair  Company Secretary, Wikimedia UK


-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:25 AM
Subject: Wikimedia UK Annual Conference  AGM
To: off...@wikimedia.org.uk
Bcc: [memberslist]


Dear Member,

Thank you for being a member of Wikimedia UK - the movement promoting
and supporting Wikipedia, its sister projects and open content here in
the UK. We are now over two years old. We have made a real impact in
the last year, hosting a major GLAM-WIKI conference, celebrations
around the 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia and, last month, BRIS-WIKI -
a conference about Wikipedia in Bristol.

This year has also seen significant growth in Wikimedia UK: our income
has topped £500,000, our membership is now close to 200 and we
employed our first member of staff. Next year we have many exciting
plans, but we need you to be involved to make that happen!

Our Annual Conference and Annual General Meeting will be held on
Saturday 16th April at the The Watershed Media Centre, Bristol. There
will be a full programme of events starting at 9:30am and finishing at
5:00pm, including speakers, panel discussions and the business of the
AGM itself at 1pm. Please come along to hear what we have achieved and
help us plan our activities for the future.

The address of the venue is:

   Watershed Media Centre
   1 Canon's Rd, Harbourside
   Bristol, BS1 5TX

Bristol is easy to get to via car, bus, train or airplane. Directions
to the venue can be found on Watershed's website at
http://www.watershed.co.uk/info/access.php. For National Express buses
to Bristol, see their website at
http://www.nationalexpress.com/coach/destinations/england/south-west/bristol/bristol-introduction.aspx.
Hotel options if you plan to stay over are shown on our main wiki page
at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011#Getting_to_the_conference

If you need financial support to attend the conference, please contact
User:Mike Peel via the wiki page.

So that we can plan for the right number of people, if you are
attending, it would help us if you could register for the event via
EventBrite at http://wikiconferenceuk2011.eventbrite.com/

AGM

The official AGM will run from 1pm to 3pm and cover the annual report,
election of a new Board of Trustees and five official motions listed
below. Would you like to stand as a member of the board?

Next year is set to be another big and exciting year of growth for
Wikimedia UK: we plan to recruit several more members of staff so we
can scale up our activities, enable more activity by volunteers and
professionalise the chapter. Our own developer, events organiser, a
full time office manager and a chapter manager pulling everything
together will no doubt transform Wikimedia UK. This is an exciting
time to be part of the board of trustees and there will be a real
opportunity to make a difference and influence the future direction of
the chapter.

We expect that being a board member will take up at least three hours
per week. We expect that the Board will meet once every four to six
weeks, with one meeting in person every three months. We also hope
that directors take
a lead in chapter projects outside meetings. However, there is no
requirement to dedicate a certain amount of time to the chapter or to
have any particular skills - just disclose what you can bring to the
table and let the members decide!

Board members legally act as the chapter's Directors and Trustees. The
eligibility criteria and duties are set out at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board#Duties - please check that you are
eligible and accept these duties before putting yourself forward for
election. If you have any questions you are welcome to contact me,
another board member or take your own legal advice.

To nominate yourself as a candidate, simply email
tell...@wikimedia.org.uk by 23:59 on Saturday 2nd April with the
following:

   * a statement that you would like to nominate yourself to serve as
a director and trustee of Wikimedia UK and you fulfill the legal
criteria for appointment
   * Full name
   * any previous names
   * date of birth
   * business occupation
   * the names of any other UK companies which you have been director
of in the last five years

During the election only your name will be made public. If you are
successful these other details will be filed with Companies House as a
public record. You will also be required to file your usual
residential address with the Company Secretary, but this will be kept

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Fundraising Report

2011-03-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
We have today published on the Wikimedia UK wiki our report on the
2010-11 fundraiser and I include a link below for your information.

Please let me know if you would like any further information about this.

Regards,

-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Subject: Wikimedia UK Fundraising Report
To: Moushira Elamrawy melamr...@wikimedia.org
Cc: Barry Newstead bnewst...@wikimedia.org


Dear Moushira,

I include below a link to our fundraising report regarding the 2010-11
Fundraiser which has been published on our website. If you would like
any further information please do not hesitate to contact me.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/uk/8/85/FundraisingReport2010-11Final.pdf

Kind Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
United Kingdom.

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[Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

2011-02-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
In advance of the board meeting next Tuesday, I've started drafting up
some job descriptions on the wiki at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Job_Descriptions for the new members of
staff that we are recruiting.

Please add your contributions on the main and talk page to develop this.

Many thanks,

Andrew

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

2011-02-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
. If people knew WMUK's overhead to activity ratio do you think they'd
 still be happy to donate? Or a similar question, do you think a £1 given to
 WMUK does more for the interests of UK Wikimedians than £1 direct to
 Wikimedia? I note that the bulk of your programme expenditure is going
 straight to the WMF anyway, so all that's happening is that the money's
 being processed by WMUK's (less efficient, due to lower scale) system, then
 going to the WMF (with additional overheads from them). Indeed it seems that
 it's only going to their international projects which is arguably further
 from the interests of UK Wikimedians than server/code expenditure is.

 I don't know the details of what you're doing at the moment so maybe I'm
 completely wrong. But my distinct impression at the moment is that UK
 donations would be much more effective if they went straight to the WMF then
 groups of users petitioned them for money for UK specific projects. Perhaps
 something like WMUK could intermediate, but it could certainly be a much
 lighter organisation.

 Admittedly charitable status if it ever arrives will change this story,
 providing the gains from gift aid outweigh the relative inefficiencies of
 WMUK. Even this isn't totally obvious at the moment, particularly as unclear
 whether the things WMUK is spending money on are more useful to the average
 user of Wikimedia projects than what the WMF project is spending money on.

 I hope to hear some serious arguments about the chapter's efficiency at the
 next AGM. I also hope for the chance for some significant input from the
 membership on expenditure priorities.

 Tom

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 [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
 Turvey
 Sent: 27 February 2011 15:57
 To: WMUK-L
 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] job descriptions

 In advance of the board meeting next Tuesday, I've started drafting up some
 job descriptions on the wiki at
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Job_Descriptions for the new members of staff
 that we are recruiting.

 Please add your contributions on the main and talk page to develop this.

 Many thanks,

 Andrew

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[Wikimediauk-l] AGM tellers - can you help?

2011-02-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
Our Annual General Meeting is just around the corner and we'll be
holding the annual election of the board of directors. As with
previous years, we'd like to appoint two independent tellers who will
be responsible for running the election, counting votes and announcing
the results. We plan a similar approach to the election as last year,
with ballot papers sent out electronically and voting both by email
and on paper on the day itself. The main difference is the scale, as
our membership has grown from 70 to nearly 200.

The election rules are on the wiki at [1]. The main restriction is
that tellers cannot themselves be candidates for the board, must be a
member of Wikimedia UK and must be able to attend the AGM in person on
16th April. [2]

[1] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election_Rules
[2] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011

If you are able to help us with this please could you email me by next
Sunday 6th March with details of any previous similar experience.

Many thanks,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
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[Wikimediauk-l] Motions for AGM

2011-02-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
The Annual Conference in April will be a mixture of the informal panel
discussions and talks that are familiar in events such as Wikimania
and the more formal company business, such as electing the new board
of directors.

In the latter section, we also have an opportunity to debate and vote
on any motions that are proposed either by the board or by members.
Resolutions can be used to spark a debate about the activities of the
chapter if that is useful, or a more informal debate can be organised.

As well as the standard resolutions, such as reappointing auditors,
approving the accounts and electing the board, we are planning to
propose a change to the structure of the board as previously discussed
to introduce two year terms and expert board seats. More details of
these will be sent out prior to the AGM notice.

If any members are interested in proposing motions please let me know
by 10th March so we can incorporate it into the agenda and the AGM
notice. Motions can be proposed by any member as long as another
member seconds the motion. Special Resolutions - essentially changes
to the constitution - must be passed with a 75% majority of those
members who vote. Members' Special Resolutions must also be proposed
in writing no less than 28 days before the meeting, and that includes
amendments. Other resolutions can be proposed at any time and require
only a 50% majority.

If you would like any assistance in drafting a motion please let me
know any we will do what we can to help.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Could you lead Wikimedia UK to success?

2011-02-07 Thread Andrew Turvey
Just a note to say thank you to everyone who came along to the board
interest day on Saturday.

We had an excellent turnout - fourteen people in total including seven
people who were interested in standing for the board for the first
time. Thanks to the people who presented, including Gemma Griffiths
who talked about our PR plan and 10th anniversary coverage, Joseph
Seddon who explained the proposed board changes and Sebastien
Molenski, President of Wikimedia Deutschland, who talked to us about
the kind of strategic planning we could be thinking about for our
current stage of development.

Thanks also to Mike Peel, who spoke about his experiences as board
member and James Forrester who gave us a longer view, sharing his
experiences as director of Wikimedia UK version 1.

The next stage is the invitation for candidates, which will be sent
out in five weeks' time on 13th March. Nominations will then close on
2nd April. If anyone has any further questions about standing for
election next year and would like to discuss it further, please do not
hesitate to get in touch either on email -
andrewrturveyatgooglemail.com - or by phone on 07403 216 991 or
speak to another one of the existing board members.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Andrew Turvey
andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 From our blog, http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/:

 Could you lead Wikimedia UK to success?

 Next year is set to be another big year of growth for Wikimedia UK: we
 have just raised over £500,000 in the Wikimedia Annual Fundraiser.
 Most of this money will support the technical side of Wikimedia
 through donations to the Foundation and the Toolserver. However, we
 also plan to use the funds to recruit four more members of staff.
 These staff will mean we can scale up our activities, enable more
 activity by volunteers and professionalise the chapter. Our own
 developer, events organiser, a full time office manager and a chapter
 manager pulling everything together will no doubt transform Wikimedia
 UK.

 However, a key factor in our success will still be the board, which
 will continue to lead the chapter and be made up of unpaid volunteers.
 It will continue to be elected by our members, ordinary Wikimedians
 who support our mission and want to make Wikipedia and free knowledge
 even more successful.

 Can you help lead the chapter to success in 2011 by standing for
 election as a board member? If so, you’re warmly invited to join us on
 Saturday 5th February from 5pm where you can find out more about what
 is involved in being a board member and have an opportunity to ask any
 questions and meet other interested people.

 This “board interest day” will take place in central London (venue to
 be confirmed). If you are interested please drop me a line to chair @
 wikimedia.org.uk to reserve your place. You can also give me a ring on
 07403 216 991 if you would like to discuss further.

 Look forward to hearing from you!

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair, Wikimedia UK


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal to Strike off

2011-01-20 Thread Andrew Turvey
Dear All,

I promised everyone I would keep you informed on this list about
progress with our accounts. As you may have heard, we filed our
accounts last week and I can confirm that Companies House are showing
these accounts on
their website and the proceedings for striking off the company has
been discontinued. This now removes any risk to the chapter's funds.

We were able to file the accounts last week as a result of a
discussion I had with Companies House which allowed us to shorten the
procedure. In brief, although we are not yet recognised as a
charity, we have up to now always acted as if we were. This means we
have complied with various additional requirements to the requirements
for other not for profit companies. In relation to our accounts,
these requirements include having them independently reviewed and not
being eligible for the reduced disclosures allowed for small
non-charitable companies - so-called Abbreviated Accounts.

In my discussion with Companies House, they advised that there is no
reason why we, given our current status, cannot submit unreviewed
Abbreviated Accounts to them in fulfilment of our statutory
obligations. This is notwithstanding the requirement set out in our
constitution to prepare full charity accounts for our members.

I therefore completed the abbreviated accounts from our accounting
records, had them approved by our board, and submitted them. We have
uploaded these accounts to our wiki at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMUK_Jan2010_Abbreviated_Accs_FINAL.pdf

Our accountants have not yet completed preparing and reviewing the
full accounts, which we will still continue with in order to comply
with our constitution, and will submit them to Companies House as
revised accounts when they are complete. I am meeting them tomorrow
morning and hope to have a better idea of progress after then.

It's great to have this cloud lifted from us and to get the chapter
back on track so we can focus again on our objectives and events. My
personal thanks to everyone who helped resolve this immediate
situation.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
United Kingdom.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Andrew Turvey
andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 As I promised before, here is a further update on our progress with
 our accounts. As I mentioned in my emails below, we were originally
 given a date of 17th December for receiving draft accounts from our
 accountants, UHY Hacker Young, which would have enabled us to file
 accounts with Companies House by the end of December.

 I was in constant touch with our accountants from 13th December until
 they left on 23rd December. Although they started work on the accounts
 on time, when they started to look at the information we had provided
 they were unable to read the GNUCash file which contains the detailed
 records. We have made some progress with converting the file into CSV
 format or similar but this has taken far longer that expected.

 They have now completed their work on the numbers but the extra work
 they had to do meant they have not yet completed their work on
 accounting disclosures and the independent review. Their scheduling
 peak regarding tax returns due at the year end and holidays over
 Christmas means they have not been able to dedicate any more staff to
 the work until the first week of January. However, we now have two
 staff dedicated full time to working on these accounts from today,
 Tuesday 4th January, and they now expect that they will be able to
 complete the accounts by 14th.

 Although this is all extremely disappointing, we should keep in mind
 that we are still on track to file the accounts before the final date
 for striking off. This means that all money received from our donors
 will be spent on supporting the goals and activities of the chapter
 and will not be lost to the movement.

 We are fully aware of the reputational impact this has on Wikimedia UK
 with potential donors, members and the Wikimedia Foundation. As
 mentioned previously, we are putting in additional processes to ensure
 that nothing like this happens again.

 Thank you for bearing with us over this and please let me know if you
 have any queries on this situation.

 Regards,

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair, Wikimedia UK
 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
 Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
 and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
 The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
 United Kingdom.

 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Andrew Turvey
 andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I promised I'd keep everyone on this list information about progress
 with our accounts. Our accountants have now given us a date of 17th

[Wikimediauk-l] Ockham Blue Plaque

2011-01-10 Thread Andrew Turvey
Just noticed this posting on the Wikipedia @ 10 website. Is anyone
interested in taking this forward? A Wikipedia drinks reception sounds
like a great way to involve a new group of people in the things we do,
although 10th April is a little close to the Annual Conference  AGM
on 16th.

http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Ockham_Blue_Plaque

Ockham Blue Plaque

Hi everyone. I am shortly applying to the City of London for a 'blue
plaque' to be installed at the site of the old Greyfriars monastery on
London Wall, by Newgate Street, to commemorate the great English
philosopher William of Ockham. I have a long list of distinguished
(some not so distinguished!) philosophers from all over the world who
are prepared to support this. I am not sure whether the process will
be finished by April 10 2011. Even if not, it would be great to add to
the London Greyfriars article on Wikipedia to include some facts about
Ockham's period of residence there (when he wrote some of his greatest
works). And I am sure that Merrill Lynch (current occupiers of the
site) would be happy to host drinks, perhaps with a Wikipedia
connection, on April 10. Also the article on Ockham himself could do
with a lot of work. Would anyone be happy to help with this? I could
post material here, and people could paste it into the relevant
articles. Best Peter Damian 12:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal to Strike off

2011-01-03 Thread Andrew Turvey
Dear All,

As I promised before, here is a further update on our progress with
our accounts. As I mentioned in my emails below, we were originally
given a date of 17th December for receiving draft accounts from our
accountants, UHY Hacker Young, which would have enabled us to file
accounts with Companies House by the end of December.

I was in constant touch with our accountants from 13th December until
they left on 23rd December. Although they started work on the accounts
on time, when they started to look at the information we had provided
they were unable to read the GNUCash file which contains the detailed
records. We have made some progress with converting the file into CSV
format or similar but this has taken far longer that expected.

They have now completed their work on the numbers but the extra work
they had to do meant they have not yet completed their work on
accounting disclosures and the independent review. Their scheduling
peak regarding tax returns due at the year end and holidays over
Christmas means they have not been able to dedicate any more staff to
the work until the first week of January. However, we now have two
staff dedicated full time to working on these accounts from today,
Tuesday 4th January, and they now expect that they will be able to
complete the accounts by 14th.

Although this is all extremely disappointing, we should keep in mind
that we are still on track to file the accounts before the final date
for striking off. This means that all money received from our donors
will be spent on supporting the goals and activities of the chapter
and will not be lost to the movement.

We are fully aware of the reputational impact this has on Wikimedia UK
with potential donors, members and the Wikimedia Foundation. As
mentioned previously, we are putting in additional processes to ensure
that nothing like this happens again.

Thank you for bearing with us over this and please let me know if you
have any queries on this situation.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited.
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
and Wales, Registered No. 6741827.
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL,
United Kingdom.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Andrew Turvey
andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I promised I'd keep everyone on this list information about progress
 with our accounts. Our accountants have now given us a date of 17th
 December for completion of the draft accounts, subject to us providing
 them with adequate explanations and information. The board is
 committed to meeting its side of the agreement, which means we will be
 in a position to file the signed accounts by the end of the month.

 At the same time, we are putting in place changes to our processes to
 ensure that these problems do not cause us to be late with the
 accounts next year or beyond.

 Thank you for your continued understanding with this and our apologies
 once more for any concern caused.

 Regards,

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair, Wikimedia UK

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Turvey
 andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 Just to follow up from Mike's previous email. I spoke to our
 accountants, UHY Hacker Young, earlier today and they are working on
 our accounts at the moment. The client manager was out of the office
 today but he will give me a ring tomorrow with an ETA for the draft
 accounts.

 The proposal for strike off looks alarming, but Companies House has
 given us until 9th February before any further action is taken. Our
 accountants have assured us that they will be able to turn things
 around quickly enough to avoid this outcome.

 Unfortunately, Companies House in England has an automatic policy of
 filing for winding up when the first set of accounts are late and they
 are not willing to suspend their proceedings until the accounts are
 filed.

 We can reassure you that there is no significant risk to donors' money
 from this procedure, given that our accounts are close to completion.
 However, we fully understand that this looks alarming and creates a
 bad impression. I apologise for any concern this has caused to any of
 our donors, members or supporters.

 I'll make sure I keep this list informed so you can monitor our
 progress with this matter.

 Regards,

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair, Wikimedia UK

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 I'll leave it to Tango and Andrew to provide the full story, but in a 
 nutshell: due to the complexities of our accounts (and hence the time 
 demands they place on our Treasurer), we're rather late in having the first 
 set of them checked over by an accountant. They're currently with the 
 accountants, though, and we'll be able to file them soon. Being listed as 
 'proposal to strike off' is an automatic thing as we haven't previously 
 filed accounts, but there's a long time (6 months) before

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal to Strike off

2010-12-05 Thread Andrew Turvey
Dear All,

I promised I'd keep everyone on this list information about progress
with our accounts. Our accountants have now given us a date of 17th
December for completion of the draft accounts, subject to us providing
them with adequate explanations and information. The board is
committed to meeting its side of the agreement, which means we will be
in a position to file the signed accounts by the end of the month.

At the same time, we are putting in place changes to our processes to
ensure that these problems do not cause us to be late with the
accounts next year or beyond.

Thank you for your continued understanding with this and our apologies
once more for any concern caused.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Turvey
andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 Just to follow up from Mike's previous email. I spoke to our
 accountants, UHY Hacker Young, earlier today and they are working on
 our accounts at the moment. The client manager was out of the office
 today but he will give me a ring tomorrow with an ETA for the draft
 accounts.

 The proposal for strike off looks alarming, but Companies House has
 given us until 9th February before any further action is taken. Our
 accountants have assured us that they will be able to turn things
 around quickly enough to avoid this outcome.

 Unfortunately, Companies House in England has an automatic policy of
 filing for winding up when the first set of accounts are late and they
 are not willing to suspend their proceedings until the accounts are
 filed.

 We can reassure you that there is no significant risk to donors' money
 from this procedure, given that our accounts are close to completion.
 However, we fully understand that this looks alarming and creates a
 bad impression. I apologise for any concern this has caused to any of
 our donors, members or supporters.

 I'll make sure I keep this list informed so you can monitor our
 progress with this matter.

 Regards,

 Andrew Turvey
 Chair, Wikimedia UK

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 I'll leave it to Tango and Andrew to provide the full story, but in a 
 nutshell: due to the complexities of our accounts (and hence the time 
 demands they place on our Treasurer), we're rather late in having the first 
 set of them checked over by an accountant. They're currently with the 
 accountants, though, and we'll be able to file them soon. Being listed as 
 'proposal to strike off' is an automatic thing as we haven't previously 
 filed accounts, but there's a long time (6 months) before there's a risk of 
 that actually happening, and this will definitely be sorted out in short 
 order.

 This is essentially a symptom of us having too much to do and not enough 
 time to do it, I'm afraid...

 Mike

 On 29 Nov 2010, at 21:04, geni wrote:

 I saw this post at the village pump suggesting wikimediauk's accounts
 are seriously late and this presents issues:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VP/M#Wiki_UK_Ltd_to_be_struck_off.3F

 The company in question is wikimedia UK (the Company No. 06741827 is
 consistent with that given in past emails)

 According to companies house the accounts were due 05/08/2010 and the
 company's status was listed as Active - Proposal to Strike off.

 Whats going on?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal to Strike off

2010-11-29 Thread Andrew Turvey
Dear All,

Just to follow up from Mike's previous email. I spoke to our
accountants, UHY Hacker Young, earlier today and they are working on
our accounts at the moment. The client manager was out of the office
today but he will give me a ring tomorrow with an ETA for the draft
accounts.

The proposal for strike off looks alarming, but Companies House has
given us until 9th February before any further action is taken. Our
accountants have assured us that they will be able to turn things
around quickly enough to avoid this outcome.

Unfortunately, Companies House in England has an automatic policy of
filing for winding up when the first set of accounts are late and they
are not willing to suspend their proceedings until the accounts are
filed.

We can reassure you that there is no significant risk to donors' money
from this procedure, given that our accounts are close to completion.
However, we fully understand that this looks alarming and creates a
bad impression. I apologise for any concern this has caused to any of
our donors, members or supporters.

I'll make sure I keep this list informed so you can monitor our
progress with this matter.

Regards,

Andrew Turvey
Chair, Wikimedia UK

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 I'll leave it to Tango and Andrew to provide the full story, but in a 
 nutshell: due to the complexities of our accounts (and hence the time demands 
 they place on our Treasurer), we're rather late in having the first set of 
 them checked over by an accountant. They're currently with the accountants, 
 though, and we'll be able to file them soon. Being listed as 'proposal to 
 strike off' is an automatic thing as we haven't previously filed accounts, 
 but there's a long time (6 months) before there's a risk of that actually 
 happening, and this will definitely be sorted out in short order.

 This is essentially a symptom of us having too much to do and not enough time 
 to do it, I'm afraid...

 Mike

 On 29 Nov 2010, at 21:04, geni wrote:

 I saw this post at the village pump suggesting wikimediauk's accounts
 are seriously late and this presents issues:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VP/M#Wiki_UK_Ltd_to_be_struck_off.3F

 The company in question is wikimedia UK (the Company No. 06741827 is
 consistent with that given in past emails)

 According to companies house the accounts were due 05/08/2010 and the
 company's status was listed as Active - Proposal to Strike off.

 Whats going on?


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[Wikimediauk-l] Person of the year

2010-10-31 Thread Andrew Turvey
Are there any open source people we can promote as a person of the year?

-- Forwarded message --
From: steve virgin st...@mediafocusuk.com
Date: 28 Oct 2010 19:32
Subject: Just a thought
To: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com


http://blogs.forbes.com/michaelnoer/2010/10/26/help-us-crowd-source-forbes-magazine-names-you-need-to-know-in-2011/





Forbes are going to Crowd Source ‘names’ that will shape 2011



Would people on our internal lists have any strong opinions on that? Maybe
they could share them with Forbes?



Would be good if they were all Open Source Open Rights Open Data people,
wouldn’t it?



I’d have thought Jimmy would be a good candidate for January with the
10thAnniversary
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK in 2013

2010-09-23 Thread Andrew Turvey
Earlier this month, the board sat down for our first in-person meeting since 
the AGM. We talked about our plans and achievements so far this year and wrote 
down where we wanted the chapter to be in three years' time. 

Below are the notes we made on the day, which we'd like to share with you. By 
their nature they are abbreviated. Please let us know any comments or input you 
have to these, or if you have any queries about what this would mean for the 
chapter. 

Regards, 

Andrew Turvey 
Chair 
Wikimedia UK 

- Forwarded Message - 

Wikimedia UK Book Sprint: where do we want to be in 2013? 
- Fully professionalised chapter 
- Supporting non-UK chapters with historical links to the UK 

Projects: 
- Culture 
- Education 
- Academic 
- Community 
- Multilingual 

- Wikipedia Academies / Workshops. Target audiences/locations aimed at getting 
people involved in editing Wikipedia. Two Wikipedia academies a year? Also 
workshops (~6 per year?). 
- Academic/external peer review process of Wikipedia articles? 
- Content partnerships (led by board members) 
- Fostering Wikimeets in different cities 
- Community editing sessions in libraries/museums/universities/schools/etc. 
(parallel to meetups?) 
- Yearly UK Wikimedia conference 
- Fundraising/international meetings 
- Wikimania??? 

5 November 2013: WMUK 5th birthday celebrations 


Budget FTE staff 
2010 £50,000 0.2 
2011 £125,000 1.5 (+ events, 0.5 x admin [starting from August with managed 
office]) 
2012 £200,000 3 (+ fundraiser/sponsorship) 
2013 £300,000 5 (+ developer, CEO/grants) 
Other possibilities: media contact. 
(All amounts are 50% of the total raised - starting to get grants etc. in 2013) 

Also contractors for tech work etc. Potentially sharing full-time staff with 
like-minded organisations? 

Asking Foundation to pay for first year of fundraiser/grants staff member? 

WMUK Board: aim to diversify it and make it richer in experience 
- Board Interest meeting on Saturday 12 February. First of an annual event? 
- Trustee Proposition. Separation of executive decisions from the full Board. 
- 7 board members (maybe 9 by 2013) 
- 4 community-elected members, 3 expert seats proposed by the outgoing 
community-elected members of the Board at the AGM (subject to community 
approval) - 2012? 
- Quarterly in-person meetings (in addition to AGM). 2011: also interim online 
meetings in between in person meetings. 
- ExecCom for 2011, transitioning to CEO in 2013 (with ExecCom oversight). 
ExecCom meetings as required. 
- Community appointments for 2 years (half elected each year) - avoids 'lame 
duck' period, adds continuity. Institutional memory. 2011. 

- Advisory Board??? 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Part time office manager

2010-08-11 Thread Andrew Turvey
To help us with the growth in Wikimedia UK, we have decided to employ a part 
time office manager, who will provide the chapter with administrative support. 
Working from home at hours to suit, the position will be for an initial term of 
six months for eight to twelve hours per week. 

The role is paying £10 per hour on a PAYE basis. Standard holidays will be 
payable in addition along with the necessary expenses for the role, including 
internet costs, telephone calls and stationery. The ideal candidate will be IT 
literate with a number of years of administrative and bookkeeping experience, 
ideally in a non-profit context. 

Full details of the position are on the wiki at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_Manager/Advertisement. 

If you are interested in applying or would like further details please contact 
me at ch...@wikimedia.org.uk or call me on 07754 881 562. The deadline for 
applications is 31 August. To apply please send a CV and covering letter 
detailing your skills and experience in this area. 

Please feel free to forward this on to anyone you know who may be interested. 

Regards, 

Andrew Turvey 
Chair 
Wikimedia UK 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
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The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
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[Wikimediauk-l] New board of trustees

2010-04-25 Thread Andrew Turvey
The AGM on Saturday elected a new board of trustees. Many thanks to everyone 
who attended or sent proxy ballots. Full details are on the wiki at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2010_AGM/Minutes#Election_results. 

All five remaining candidates received more than 50% support and were therefore 
elected. 

Our thanks go to Tom Holden and Zeyi He who stepped down from the board this 
year and to the tellers, James Farrar and James Humphries who did a fantastic 
job once more of running the election. 

After the AGM the first board meeting elected me as the new Chair, Mike Peel 
stepped into the position of Secretary and Tom Dalton became Treasurer. 

Regards, 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Help elect a new board of trustees for Wikimedia UK

2010-04-17 Thread Andrew Turvey
 with organizations to forge
content partnerships.

In terms of a direction for the organization of the chapter, I would
like to focus on professionalization - hiring an office administrator
and technical developers. It has become very apparent over the last year
that there is a lot that can be done, but rarely enough volunteer time
to make it happen and to do it successfully. Professionalization will
greatly ease this, and make the chapter a lot more streamlined and
capable.

I have been active on Wikipedia for over 5 years (my first edit was in
March 2005), during which time I've made around 15,000 edits (although
my edit rate has dropped off considerably since being involved with
Wikimedia UK). I'm also active on the Commons, where I have made over
3500 edits and uploaded over 650 images of my own creation. I have also
made over 2000 edits on Wikisource. In real life, I'm employed as a
postdoctoral researcher at Jodrell Bank (part of the University of
Manchester).

Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions you might have (on my talk
page, on irc (nick mpeel) or anywhere else you see me around).


Joseph Seddon

My name is Joseph Seddon and I have been involved within the Wikimedia
projects since November 2006 and a director of Wikimedia UK since April
2009. Outside the chapter I am currently in my second year of an
undergraduate Masters degree in Exploration and Resource Geology at
Cardiff University. On the wikimedia projects my main area of activity
has been on the English Wikipedia and I am a former mediator,
arbitratation clerk and administrator. These roles I recently gave up so
that I could focus my time on the chapter.

I have very specific roles that I see myself undertaking over the next
year. The first of these is the organisation of conference to bring
together Wikimedia and the Cultural sector within the UK. Work has
already begun for and being part of this years new board will greatly
assist me in bringing this fantastic opportunity together.

Secondly, I want to strengthen our working relationship with free
knowledge organisations such as the open knowledge foundation, creative
commons uk, icommons and other free culture and software organisations.
These groups have been active in the uk for many years and are
successful in thier operation and we have so much to learn and gain from
them. The contacts, skills and experience that they bring in the
technology, culture and education sectors are invaluable in our work to
bring the sum of all human knowledge to the UK and internationally.

Finally I want to encourage the growth of the chapter professionally.
Employing professionals to the chapters increases our efficiency and
impact many times over compared to being run by volunteers. It frees up
volunteer time and means we can do more.

With my knowledge and understanding of our communites and an increasing
understanding of the sectors we will work closely with I feel that being
part of the new board will be a huge positive to our ever growing
chapter.


Andrew Turvey

I have been on the board for the last two years and would like to stand
for a third and final term to see through the things I have been working
on, in particular our application to the Charity Commission.

I have found the board a very enjoyable and enriching experience, even
if sometimes frustrating and time consuming. Sadly I'm not able to
devote as much time as I'd like to Wikimedia given the recent changes in
my life, but I'm sure that one board meeting per month plus the various
commitments outside the board will be achievable.

Next year will see some important developments with Wikimedia UK -
continued growth in membership, activities and income; employing our
first staff member and, hopefully, a successful conclusion to our
charity application. It would be a privilege to be part of this!


Steve Virgin

It has been a privilege to serve during the last year and it has proved
both challenging and highly rewarding. Challenging because as a Board we
have had to work hard to raise the profile of both the Chapter and the
range of projects that Wikimedia UK promote and support. However,
although it has been time consuming and the Board had to operate on
tight budgets right up until the Fundraiser last winter, this problem is
now resolved and the Wikimedia UK chapter has a healthy bank balance
which will allow the new Board to push the development of the Chapter
further forward.

Fortunately, the rewards are plenty and the warm reception that Board
members get when they talk about our projects are such that it makes me
optimistic about the coming year. My discussions have led to a recent
internal BBC Future Media Team proposal to set up a project to channel
image donations to Wikimedia Commons. They have led to nearly concluded
discussions with ARKIVE/WildScreen about the likelihood of a large
content donation of data, images, video and audio archive from its
endangered animals and species database. There are on-going talks

[Wikimediauk-l] Talk in Bristol

2010-02-23 Thread Andrew Turvey
Steve Virgin, one of the Wikimedia UK board members, recently gave a talk at a 
Bristol Social Media forum about various things happening with Wikimedia 
projects in Britain. The talk was positively covered in a blog from a 
participant: 

http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/02/18/discussion-group-shows-geeks-are-social/#more-22714
 

How can fictional stories incorporate technology? What does the future hold 
for Wikipedia’s sister projects ? And is it fair to say that social media 
sucks?... 

... 



Next up was Steve Virgin , a member of the United Kingdom chapter of the 
Wikimedia Foundation, the group behind Wikipedia. After sharing some arresting 
statistics about the site’s impact (347 million people — 35% of the online 
population –use Wikipedia, while 40,000 English speakers make at least five 
edits each per month) he talked about the work that is going on with the 
organization’s nine other projects which cover, among other topics, news , 
books , quotations and the classification of species . 




The biggest growth is in Wikimedia Commons , a project to collect 
copyright-free media resources such as photographs and videos. The big push 
this year is to encourage museums to follow the example of the Dresden 
University Library which donated 250,000 images. One tactic is to promote the 
potential benefits of such donations, such as releasing part of an archive as a 
promotional tool to boost sales of other images. There is also work in progress 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Geograph images

2010-01-30 Thread Andrew Turvey
Could anyone help us draft a blog post about this? 

I've started a page at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Geograph_images 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net 
To: bo...@wikimedia.org.uk WMUK Board bo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
Sent: Saturday, 30 January, 2010 11:58:22 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: [WMUK Board] Geograph images 

Hi all, 

I've just been given a heads-up that 250,000 images of the UK that 
people have released on Geograph.org.uk are currently being mass- 
uploaded onto Wikimedia Commons: 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ 
Category:Images_from_the_Geograph_British_Isles_project 

We should probably do a blog post about this sometime soon; next week 
perhaps? 

Mike 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Budget for next year

2010-01-25 Thread Andrew Turvey
 of the conference in 
Australia in August 2009. [8] We have had tentative discussions with museums 
who would be interested and may be able to arrange it for August 2010. The 
purpose of the conference is to bring key decision makers in the GLAM sector 
into contact with Wikimedia people to persuade them to partner with us on 
content donation, partnerships like Britain Loves Wikipedia and other ways we 
can help each other achieve our aims.

Costs are expected to be in the region of £5,000, of which some or all may be 
funded by the GLAM partners or through sponsorship.

Do you think this is a worthwhile use of our resources?

Other projects

Other projects that have been proposed, but not yet discussed by the board, in 
connection with the 2010 Budget include:

£1,000 for a microgrant project, along the lines of Wikimedia Poland's scheme 
[9]
£1,000 to sponsor Wikimedians to attend Wikimania Gdansk 2010 [10]
£500 to fund travel to museums etc for discussions on content access
£500 to assist in the development of Wikimeets
£300 to pay for members to attend free content conference [11]
£340 to fund preliminary work on Wikimania Manchester 2013 [12]

Do you think these are worthwhile things to spend our money on? Is there 
anything else you think should be added to the list?

If you've managed to read this far then I'm impressed and thank you! All 
comments are gratefully received whether on our general approach or on 
specifics.

We look forward to hearing your ideas!

Regards,

Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 


[1] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2010_Budget 
[2] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2010-01-19/Agenda/Fundraiser_Report 
[3] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Budget#Restricted_funds_brought_forward 
[4] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Budget#Administrative_costs
[5] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Main_Page
[6] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[7] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-10-20#AOB
[8] http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/GLAM-WIKI
[9] 
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikikonkurssl=pltl=en
[10] http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
[11] See list at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Budget#Restricted_funds_brought_forward
[12] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Wikimania_Bid/Bid_budget

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Board member vacancy

2010-01-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
We are happy to announce that the board has decided to co-opt Thomas Dalton 
onto the board of trustees to replace Paul Williams who recently resigned. I'm 
sure Tom needs no introduction here: he currently serves as our Head of 
Fundraising and has been involved in the setting up of Wikimedia UK v2 from 
the start. Tom, like the rest of the Board, will serve until the AGM in April 
when a new election will be held.

Regards, 

Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 

- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: 
 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 29 December, 2009 23:35:34 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Board member vacancy 
 
 Hi all, 
 
 It is with regret that I announce that Paul Williams (Skenmy) is 
 leaving the WMUK Board for personal reasons. 
 
 This obviously leaves a vacancy on the board between now and the next 
 AGM, which we would like to fill if a suitable candidate can be 
 found. Who would be interested in joining the Board until the next 
 AGM (24 April)? 
 
 The legal duties and the eligibility criteria for being on the board 
 are described at: 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees#Duties 
 
 You would be expected to attend the board meetings online, which 
 currently take place fortnightly by Skype. You would also participate 
 in the organization of the various initiatives that are currently 
 being planned, and the development of future initiatives, as well as 
 the forthcoming AGM. Whether the role of 'volunteers director' is 
 kept has not yet been decided; in general however there is a lot of 
 freedom to focus on what you're interested in, or help out with bits 
 of everything, rather than being tied to specific areas. 
 
 If you are interested, please email the board at 
 bo...@wikimedia.org.uk . A brief background of yourself would be 
 useful, as would a description of what you would like to achieve by 
 being on the Board. If you have any queries, please don't hesitate to 
 ask me or any of the other current (or past) board members 
 
 Thanks, 
 Mike Peel 
 Wikimedia UK 







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[Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: 19th January

2010-01-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi all, 

Unfortunately the board meeting this evening has had to be cancelled due to 
lack of quorum. The meeting will be deferred until next Tuesday, 19th January 
8:30 - 10:30. 

As before, The meeting will primarily be via Skype, but we'll also be in 
#wikimedia-uk on IRC and everyone is more than welcome to attend the IRC 
session, and participate in the discussion there. 

The agenda will be up at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings 

Board members + Tango: please post whether you can attend, and your reports if 
applicable, to the agenda page. 

Regards, 

Andrew 

- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: 
 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net 
 To: bo...@wikimedia.org.uk WMUK Board bo...@wikimedia.org.uk, 
 wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 12 January, 2010 15:52:29 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: [WMUK Board] Next board meeting: This evening 
 
 Hi all, 
 
 The next board meeting, and the first of 2010, will be this evening 
 (Tuesday 12 January 2010) at 8.30-10.30pm GMT. The meeting will 
 primarily be via Skype, but we'll also be in #wikimedia-uk on IRC. 
 Everyone is more than welcome to attend the IRC session, and 
 participate in the discussion there. If you don't have an IRC client, 
 then you can connect using http://webchat.freenode.net/ . 
 
 The agenda is at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2010-01-12/Agenda 
 
 Board members + Tango: please post whether you can attend, and your 
 reports, to the agenda page. My thanks to those that have already 
 given their attendance and started their reports. 
 
 (Note that I'm currently out of the country, and will likely be 
 unable to attend by voice and/or a bit late. Either way, please could 
 someone else chair the meeting?) 
 
 Thanks, 
 Mike Peel 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day

2009-12-21 Thread Andrew Turvey
Well worth doing and well written - many thanks for this. We're getting 
together quite a list of press contacts and it's the kind of story in a 
news-light time of the year that could fly well. 

When should it be put out? Given that 1 Jan falls on a Friday and the previous 
Monday is a bank holiday, does Tuesday 29th make sense? 

Also coincides with a WMUK board meeting, so if anything needs approving at 
that level (although I'm not sure it needs to) we can do that as well. 

I guess we should add some bits at the end: 
- explaining who WMUK 
- link into Britain Loves Wikipedia? 

Headline? Wikipedia looks forward to Public Domain Day? 


- Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: 
 From: Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2009 17:12:14 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day 
 
 On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 17:08 +, David Gerard wrote:  2009/12/21 Charles 
 Matthews :Draft, then.Worth noting: It's A Wonderful Life 
 only became a popular Christmas  movie once it had entered the public 
 domain. So Mr. Ford may be well  worth mentioning - people who read will 
 certainly take the opportunity  to push his works. Send to the more literary 
 publications? I took Charles' draft, put it on the wiki, and did a slight 
 rewrite. David's suggestion is an excellent point to add to a detail I 
 inserted - build the membership. 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Public_domain_day -- Brian McNeil 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Computer quote

2009-12-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
As discussed at last week's board meeting, the chapter has been given a £500 
grant to fund the purchase of a computer to help with outreach work. As per 
previous discussions, it would be useful to have a projector at the same time 
so that we can do presentation on the go. 

I've had a look on the internet and this is the best deal I can find: 

£199 - Dell Inspiron Mini 10 V 
(http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Laptops/laptop-inspiron-10/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-10s=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~20211~laptop-inspiron-10_n00b1001~~)
 

£11.99 - Laptop bag 
(http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/PopupProductDetail.aspx?cs=ukdhs1l=enc=uksku=A2568188price=11.99)
 

£285 - Dell M109S On-the-go projector 
(http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/projector-dell-m109s?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1)
 

£30 delivery 

Total - £496 

Comments appreciated! 

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[Wikimediauk-l] First Wikmedia Seminar

2009-12-03 Thread Andrew Turvey
We're happy to report that Steve Virgin and I have just given our first 
Wikimedia Seminar or Learning Lunch to Kaizo, a PR firm in London. The 
reaction was very positive, with a raft of questions that kept us speaking for 
around 90 minutes.

There were some great opportunities discussed regarding their clients. One was 
a publisher who owns an archive of of professional journals going back over 100 
years; we spoke about how a content release deal could fit into a freemium 
model and the example of the Saxon State Library experience [1]. Wikimedia 
would benefit from getting great content whilst the client would gain a 
positive image, a raised profile within their specialist community and traffic 
back to their own website where premium content is sold. We're now going to 
work with Kaizo on taking forward these ideas with their clients.

I will upload the presentation we gave to the main Wikimedia presentation site 
[2] and would appreciate any feedback. Plans are in the pipeline for further 
seminars at, among others, BBC Bristol and the Brrism social networking group - 
if you're interested in getting involved in either delivering or writing 
further presentations please get in touch either by replying to me directly or 
adding your details to the speakers page on the wiki. If you've already 
volunteered we haven't forgotten and will be in touch shortly! Travel expenses 
are will be covered by the host organisation. [3] 

These learning lunches are one of three main projects that Wikimedia UK are 
focusing on achieving this year - alongside the Britain Loves Wikipedia 
museums event next February and the schools project. Alongside these three main 
projects we are also active in responding to various media enquiries, speaking 
to libraries and museums about content release and attending various 
conferences to give the Wikimedia perspective. Let us know if you can help us 
with any of these activities! 

[1] 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/03/31/over-250k-new-images-join-the-wikimedia-commons/
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Presentations/en 
[3] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Speakers 

Regards, 

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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
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The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
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[Wikimediauk-l] URGENT: Conference this Thursday in West Midlands

2009-11-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
We've been invited to a conference in Birmingham this Thursday and are urgently 
seeking anyone who may be able to go along and is able to speak on Wikimedia's 
perspective. 

The conference is called Digital Treasures and is being organised by the 
museum sector. It's a very important event for us as we're currently developing 
our links with the museum sector through Britain Loves Wikipedia, the GLAM-WIKI 
conference and various content release discussions so we need someone who will 
be able to represent Wikimedia. 

It's next Thursday 26th November - the conference is from 10am to 5:30pm and 
our session is 1:30 - 2:30 pm. Travel costs will of course be paid by the 
chapter. 

Not exactly Italy I know! ;) Please let me know if you're able to help or if 
not or need any more information, or if you have any ideas for who else could 
do it. 

Cheers 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk 
To: bo...@wikimedia.org.uk WMUK Board bo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 16:54:56 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: [WMUK Board] Fwd: 'Our Hidden Treasures' conference 26th November in 
West Midlands 

See below. Sounds like a very good opportunity to talk about what 
Wikipedia can do to help archives. Is anyone able to go? (I'll go if 
no-one else can, but I should really be focusing on my thesis...) 

Mike 

Begin forwarded message: 

 From:*** 
 Date: 6 November 2009 13:45:39 GMT 
 To: Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 Subject: 'Our Hidden Treasures' conference 26th November in West 
 Midlands 
 
 Hi Mike, 
 
 I just wanted to let you know about a conference on digitising 
 archives and using their content on the net that is happening later 
 this month. I have spoken to the conference organisers and they are 
 very keen for someone from Wikipedia to come along and possibly 
 even sit on a panel discussion about financing models and 
 repurposing content. Other speakers at the conference include Tony 
 Ageh, Ed Vaizey and someone from Microsoft. Let me know if you’re 
 interested and I’ll put you in touch with the conference organisers. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Katie 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Notes from the Cbinet Forum

2009-10-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
Sorry - just to clarify - the extreme language I quoted was NOT from Sion 
Simon, they were from the industry representatives who were talking on a 
different panel. 

- Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: 
 From: Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009 17:56:31 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Notes from the Cbinet Forum 
 
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:10 +, Andrew Turvey wrote:  - SIon Simon, 
 another politician present, mentioned that the copyright  debate is highly 
 polarised between the industry and free copyright  advocates, both sides are 
 deaf to the other and they need to engage.  Despite this the discussions on 
 copyright have been largely one sided,  unbalanced, with some fairly extreme 
 language used - copyright  warriors, green ink brigade. a generation of 
 stealing etc. 


That's a complete and utter misrepresentation of the other side. It's a random 
representation from some file-sharer or other. He has obviously made absolutely 
any effort to talk to the other side. If you get the chance, suggest he talk to 
Richard Stallman, in fact, urge him to do so. I've been following the Pirate 
Party mailing list the past few days. They don't want the abolition of 
copyright; they've read what RMS has to say on the topic, and their interest is 
more in seeing a complete reevaluation of copyright in the context of it being 
a social contract. Not just rights granted to a copyright holder by society, 
but responsibilities that come with them - like not just letting things enter 
the public domain when copyright expires, put actually taking the time to put 
them out there, freely available. Creative works are, collectively, our 
cultural heritage; with regard to music, the vast majority creating it see 
little to no financial reward for doing so. The 'industry', on the other hand, 
has a long and shameful history of assuming they have a right to be paid over 
and over and over again for exactly the same piece of work. -- Brian McNeil 
Wikinewsie.org 
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[Wikimediauk-l] What should we spend our money on?

2009-10-19 Thread Andrew Turvey
The 2009 Annual Wikimedia Fundraiser is just round the corner and we need to 
crystallize the list of items that we will use our income for so that we can 
encourage people to donate.

I've done a first draft at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2009_Winter_Fundraiser#Use_of_funds - please could 
you take a look and edit away! What would inspire you to donate? 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Cbinet Forum

2009-10-19 Thread Andrew Turvey
We've been invited to go along to a conference next week organized by the 
Department for Culture, Media and Sport on creative industries. Although we 
made it clear to them that we are not-for-profit and a lot of the programme is 
not particularly relevant, they were very keen to get us to go along, even to 
the extent of giving us a free ticket.

The website is at http://www.cabinetforum.org and the agenda is:

* Access to finance for creative industries: What do creative businesses need 
to do to attract investment and demonstrate reliability of future cash flow? 
How do you tackle the lack of understanding between investors and creative 
* New business models for online content: How can a viable business be made out 
of online content without relying on advertising?
* Developing Talent: What can be done to create opportunities for the next 
generation of creative talent? How can creative businesses make sure tomorrow’s 
employees have the right skills to thrive?
* Securing creative rights: How best to ensure that those who generate and fund 
creative product are able to secure its value? Both regulatory and 
non-regulatory methods will be examined.

Some of these things are clearly not relevant for us but some - securing 
creative rights and new business models - are issues that we may wish to 
have input into. There are also likely to be some big hitters there who we 
would be interested in partnering with in the future, including senior people 
from companies like Spotify, BBC Vision and Wired UK. Peter Mandelson is a 
keynote speaker, which could be an important opportunity to put the case for 
public domain to a key decision maker.

My question: what should I focus on at this conference and what should I aim to 
get out of it?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Andrew

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[Wikimediauk-l] Multimedia Usability Project Meeting in France - Call for participation

2009-10-05 Thread Andrew Turvey
We have been approached by Wikimedia France who are organising, with the 
Wikimedia Foundation, a project meeting for the Usability Project in early 
November - see email below.

They have offered to fund the travel and accommodation of a UK-based person who 
is active in Wikimedia technology.

Is anyone on this list interested in attending? If so, please could you email 
me offlist with brief details of your technical experience on Wikimedia.

Many thanks

-- 

Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com 
To: Chapters mailing list chapt...@wikimedia.ch 
Sent: Sunday, 4 October, 2009 12:53:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: [Chapters] Multimedia Usability Project Meeting in France - Call for 
participation 

Dear fellow chapter people, 

Wikimedia France and the Wikimedia Foundation are organizing a meeting 
in Paris on November 6-8, which is meant to find its place within the 
Ford Grant about usability on Commons. 

We have already about 25 participants confirmed, and we potentially 
have a few spaces left. I would like to ask you if you knew of anyone 
within the community who would be interested and useful to participate 
in the meeting. Some of the chapters are already participating by 
sending people, from the chapter and/or community (Wikimedia 
Nederland, Wikimedia Polska, Wikimedia Australia, Wikimedia 
Deutschland) and maybe we've missed people who are within your 
community of choice and who would bring lots to the meeting. 

... 

You will find more info about the meeting here: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Usability_Project_Meeting_France 

Thank you for your help, 

Best, 

Delphine 



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[Wikimediauk-l] Microgrants strategy workshop

2009-10-02 Thread Andrew Turvey
Wikimedia Poland has just published their latest chapter report which contains 
two interesting ideas: 

a) A Wikicontestmicro grants scheme 

b) A workshop for strategy planning 

Could/should we do something similar for WMUK? 

Andrew 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com 
To: chapters-repo...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 13:45:39 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: [Wikimedia Chapters Reports] Wikimedia Polska Report July-September 
2009 

See with some pictures: 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikimedia_Polska/July-September_2009
 

Financial matters 

The budget of the Wikimedia Polska as calculated on 11 September 2009 
Current account: 27838.54 PLN (9899 USD, 6732 EUR) 
Tax deducible donation account: 281463.31 PLN (100100 USD, 68060 EUR) 
In cash: 250.00 PLN (89 USD, 60.45 EUR) 
Balance: 
At the of 2008: 146898.66 PLN (52230 USD, 35520 EUR) 
Expenditures in 2009: 110562.04 PLN (39310 USD, 26730 EUR) 
Income in 2009: 274063.16 (97450 USD, 26730 EUR) 
Current balance: 310399.78 (110 400 USD, 75060 EUR) 

1% tax deducible donations 
1% tax deducible donation season is almost finished. Till 11 
September 2009 we have collected this year 149489,58 (53160 USD, 36150 
EUR) which is already slightly more than in all 2008 (136636.05 PLN). 

[edytuj] 
Meetings and promotion 

GDJ 2009 
A workshop for Polish Wikipedians devoted to strategy planning 
took place in Sopot, 11-13 September 2009. There were around 40 
participants in the meeting. 11 lectures and discussion panels took 
place during GDJ. See more: [2] 

Bulletin 
2 issues of Wikimedia Polska bulletins were published during 
vacation time. See: No. 6 and No.7 

Wikimedia Polska Blog 
A pilot official blog was launched by Leinad. There are 
discussions about the shape of the blog and if it is going to replace 
Bulletin or rather coexist with it. 

Wikimania 2009 
Saper and Szwedzki represented Wikimedia Polska during Wikimania 
2009. Their travel costs were paid by Wikimedia Polska. Saper showed a 
short presentation about Wikimania 2010. 

[edytuj] 
Outreach activities 

Wikiexpedition 
Wikiexpedtion took place on July 10th till 20th. In the territory 
of Polish Podlaskie voivideship a group of 13 Wikimedians photographed 
whatever there was to be photographed in the area, as well as 
collected materials related to the places and sights of the region, 
while all the time contacting the local people, bringing them news of 
Wikipedia and Wikimedia in general. More than 1800 pictures were 
uploaded to Wikimedia Commons of which around 300 were used to 
illustrate various articles in Polish Wikipedia. More info: [3]. See 
also Category:Wikiekspedycja 2009 on Commons. 

Wikicontest 
V edition of Wikicontest - a micro grant system established by 
Wikimedia Polska in 2006 is still working. In current edition 8 
applications were sent to Wikicontest committee of which 7 were 
accepted and 6 are in progress. 

Wikiworkshop III OZD 
A workshop for 30 scouts, leaders of teams from Polish Scouting 
Association was organized by Tomasz Chabinka. It was basic Wikipedia 
workshop for beginner editors. See more: [4] 

[edytuj] 
Press and media 
[edytuj] 
Mainstream media 

* July 2009 - Młody Technik (weekly,popular techie journal) - 
Kościół scjentologiczny dostał bana na Wikipedii, (about Scientology 
in Wikipedia) 
* 2009-09-17 Blogoskop Radia Wrocław - Dokąd zmierza Wikipedia? - 
interview with Szwedzki about Wikipedia and Wikimania 
* 2009-07-22: lookr.tv interview Wikipedyści podbijają Podlasie 
with Przykuta, Zwiadowca21 i Sp5uhe about Wikiexpedition and Wikipedia 
nagranie. 

[edytuj] 
Internet portals 

* 2009-09-28 gazeta.pl - Wojna o Polańskiego na Wikipedii. 
Administratorzy blokują stronę 
* 2009-09-26 onet.pl - Polska Wikipedia ma już osiem lat 
* 2009-09-25 dobreprogramy.pl - 8 lat polskiej Wikipedii 
* 2009-09-25 chip.pl - 8 lat polskiej Wikipedii 
* 2009-09-23 dobreprogramy.pl - Konkurs dla aktywnych wikipedystów 
* 2009-09-12 wiadomosci24.pl - Co to ludobójstwo? Skąd jest 
Beenhakker? - Wikipedia Ci powie 
* 2009-09-11 money.pl - Wirtualna Polska łączy Wikipedię i aktualności 
* 2009-09-11 heise-online.pl - Wikipedia WP: pierwszy efekt 
partnerstwa Orange i Fundacji Wikimedia 
* 2009-09-11 wp.pl - Wirtualna Polska z Wikipedią 
* 2009-09-11 idg.pl - WP.pl z Wikipedią 
* 2009-09-10 webinside.pl - Wirtualna Polska 'kupiła' sobie Wikipedię 
* 2009-09-10 madia2.pl - Wirtualna Polska z Wikipedią 
* 2009-09-08 gazeta.pl - (za Chipem) 5 milionów plików w Wikimedia Commons 
* 2009-09-08 di.com.pl - 5 milionów plików w Wikimedia Commons 
* 2009-09-08 chip.pl - 5 milionów plików w Wikimedia Commons 
* 2009-09-03 osnews.pl - Pięciomilionowy plik w Wikimedia Commons 
* 2009-09-03 komputerswiat.pl - Wikipedia: 70 rocznica wybuchu II 
wojny światowej 
* 2009-09-03 wp.pl - Wikipedię tworzą mężczyźni 
* 2009-09-03 media2.pl - Zmiany w angielskiej Wikipedii 
* 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM dates

2009-09-25 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com wrote: 

 also, where is it going to be? That's the biggest factor for me. 

I think the idea was London - Seddon could you confirm? 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Online libel law consultation launched by the government

2009-09-17 Thread Andrew Turvey
Online libel law consultation launched by the government 

http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=conWebDoc.28413 

Sound interesting - any idea how it will affect Wikipedia? 

Andrew 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandising

2009-09-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
Thanks everyone for their responses. Back to the original questions:

- what kind of thing would you, personally, be interested in buying or
getting as a gift? Tshirts, mousemats, cufflinks?
- how much would you be willing to spend?
- what logos would you like? Wikipedia? WMUK, complete family?

Discussions so far have focussed on very limited sales, order on
demand only. No one wants to spend lots of effort doing this, or
taking any significant levels of stock. I don't think it has any
potential to be a major source of funding so I don't suggest we go
down that route.

We're an association, a group of people with a common interest. The
best way to encourage more and more people to join is to generate an
enthusiasm for what we have in common. Stuff like Wikipedia T-shirts
have a great potential to do that. Please don't pile in to rubbish the
idea before it even takes shape.

Andrew

On Sep 13, 11:04 pm, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 We've received approval from the Wikimedia Foundation to produce 
 merchandising with Wikimedia trademarks and copyrighted logos on it for sale 
 to our members - anything from mugs and mouse-mats to cufflinks and ties. The 
 plan is to sell them at cost price to members only.

 Quick question - what kind of thing would you be interested in buying and 
 which logos would you want to use (Wikipedia globe? Wikimedia? Wiktionery? 
 Complete family? [1])

 [1]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_logo_family_complete...

 Please let me know either by personal reply or just reply to the list.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandising

2009-09-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
The main monetary benefits of charity status are being able to reclaim
Gift Aid on donations and reduced rates on expenses like room hire and
paypal fees. These are far larger than any profit on T-shirt sales
would ever be.

Andrew

On Sep 14, 9:34 am, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 At 23:40 +0100 13/9/09, Andrew Turvey wrote:

 Hopefully it will be the kind of perk that will attract people who
 are already active in the projects to become members. As to selling
 at above cost, the Foundation wasn't too keen on that - worried that
 we would develop into some kind of commercial arm of the Foundation,
 which is not really their idea of the role of chapters.

 Andrew

 Run that by me, one more time?

 Why then seek to gain a tax advantage?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Merchandising

2009-09-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
Re-reading my original email and the reaction to it I should clarify: 

- Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: 
 The plan is to sell them at cost price to members only. 

Cost price isn't a restriction from the Foundation - their main restriction 
is that it must be either sold only to members or given away for free as 
publicity. It's up to us what price we sell them at, although if we make 
significant profit margins there are certain tax and charity consequences which 
may be better avoiding. Also I don't want members to get the impression we're 
profiteering. Thinking about it again, cost+20% - which I understand is what 
cafepress do - sounds about right to cover waste, stock etc. 

As I've mentioned before, I don't think the potential volumes justify turning 
this into a fundraising business. However, I do think it could be a good way to 
attract new members and give a benefit to existing members. 

I love the idea of a calendar, and we already have a potential partner in this 
with Robbies Photographics - one of the sponsors of the Wikipedia Loves Art 
event. 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art winner in London

2009-09-04 Thread Andrew Turvey
One of the winners of the Wikipedia Loves Art project that we ran in February 
is in London later this month (she lives in France) - would anyone be 
interested in meeting up? 

Please let me know. 

Andrew 

=== 

Forwarded message: 

Andrew, 

I just booked a Eurostar ticket for Sept. 23rd. (arrive around 12 leave at 8 
p.m.) I am planning to spend time in the VA reveling in the beauty. I would 
love to meet some of the folks there that are involved in the Wiki program. Is 
there a chance of that? 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Turvey
You're absolutely right - posting snips is ok, whole articles isn't. I 
apologise and wont do it again! 

Just out of interest, can we delete posts from the archive? 

- Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: 
 From: Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:46:27 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions 
 
 
 


Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a 
news website’s article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright 
violation. 





Brian. 

- Forwarded Message - 
 From:  Andrew Turvey  andrewrtur...@googlemail.com 
 To: English Wikipedia  wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org  
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:20:00 GMT + 00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland , 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Daily Mail ( England ) on Flagged Revisions 


Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't get 
any quote in there. 
 
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html
  


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[Wikimediauk-l] Interview on Dublin Radio 4, ~1:30

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Turvey
Just to let you know, I've just had an interview on Dublin's Radio 4 which 
should available soon at : 

http://www.4fm.ie/listenagain_dj.asp (about 2:41) 

(lunchtime on 4 - Wednesday - check you're not listening to last week's! - if 
you start hearing about Hurricane Bill, it's last week's) 

Andrew Turvey 
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From: Oliver Moran oliver.mo...@gmail.com 
To: Wikimedia IE wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:58:26 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia IE] Interview on Dublin Radio 4, ~1:30 

Just caught the tail-end of you by accident in the car, Andrew. Sounded great. 
Well done. More credit to you. 

Oliver 


2009/8/26 Oliver Moran  oliver.mo...@gmail.com  


Thanks, Andrew. 

It's a pity we have to go across the water to get someone, but thank you. If 
the program is any of these, let me know so I can listen to the podcast: 
http://www.4fm.ie/listenagain_dj.asp 

To others, is it not time we can handle these things ourselves? 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland 

Regards, 
Oliver 


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Hi everyone, 

Just to let you know, if you're in Dublin at the moment, I'm going to be 
interviewed by Dublin's Radio 4 on Wikipedia's Flagged Revisions changes that's 
been working its way round the news media. 

If you hear it please let me know what you think 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Turvey

We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially 
buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for 
the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my 
interest. 

Does anyone have any experience with equipment like this, and could you 
recommend anything? Any idea what the price range and quality typically is? 

Also, is anyone else in the Wikimedia community currently doing this? 

Thanks, 

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From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com 
To: English Wikipedia wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 10:55:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure 
 out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would look as 
 a flat page. 

Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the 
scanner comes down and scans both open pages at once. As it goes up 
again, it sucks on one page, causing it to flip over. Then repeat. 

Oh, look, here you go: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlOQuuLYavY 

And while we're at it: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Flagged Protection in the UK press

2009-08-25 Thread Andrew Turvey

- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: 
 
 and Andrew Turvey should be talking on Tom McGurk’s Irish radio 
 show as I type this (6.45pm BST). 

They didn't get the email in time unfortunately, so will be doing it tomorrow 
instead. 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog

2009-08-25 Thread Andrew Turvey
Now that we've got this new blog, it would be useful if we could get the 
various media integrated so that the message is getting through all the 
different channels. 

I've been looking at ways to get blog posts automatically fed into the email 
list. I've come across Yahoo Alerts, which runs off the RSS feed and seems to 
work, but it doesn't give you any images and mixes in the image captions to the 
text. Of course there is a link to the story if anyone wants to follow up. 

My question: would people like, in principle to receive an alert like this to 
this email group whenever a blog story is published? 

If so, is a Yahoo Alert like below good enough? 

Does anyone know of any other system that is better? 

Andrew 

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Sent: Tuesday, 25 August, 2009 18:22:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Y! Alert: Wikimedia UK Blog 

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Wikimedia projects covering the United Kingdom. We’ll be using this blog to 
bring you news and information both about Wikimedia UK and Wikimedia projects 
within the UK in general. Location of UK in Europe (Image via Wikipedia ) 
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held publicly on IRC, all important decisions are discussed first on our 
mailing list , and we have a monthly newsletter . All of our initiatives are 
volunteer-driven ( get involved! ) and are funded by your donations . We are 
kept running by our membership , which is open to all ( join now! ). We hope 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reminder: Next WMUK board meeting this evening (Tuesday 18 August), 8.30pm BST

2009-08-19 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 
 2009/8/19 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: 
 
  ... do you think you 
  might ever be able to use someone to transcribe audio files? 
 
 ... I wouldn't mind having a transcription of our AGMs (at least the 
 important parts of them). 

I second this - that would be very useful! Next AGM is planned for early next 
year, so we can keep this in mind for then. 

In the meantime: 

Please consider signing up as a member - the form is at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership and subscription fees start from just 
50p per month. We're keen to have the widest possible membership base so we can 
support our activities and get input from UK Wikimedians on our direction and 
focus. 

If you haven't already, please sign up to our monthly newsletter at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Newsletter 

Please add any ideas you have for new initiatives at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives and get involved in any of the ones 
listed there that interest you - quite a few of them need just online help. 

Let me/us know if you want any help with anything. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
 Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: 
 From: Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 02:29:51 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia Loves Art - prizes 
 
 Andrew Turvey wrote:   Thank you for your patience with us whilst we have 
 processed these  photographs, and we hope you enjoyed participating in this 
 event. If you  have any comments about this event or how it could be 
 improved in the  future, please let us know. 

*Look at the calendar* Hmm 

Indeed. Uploading of photographs finished at the end of February. It was 
decided by the organizers that awarding of prizes would wait until after all 
the photographs had been individually assessed by museum staff for copyright 
validity etc. Given the quantity of photos this has taken quite a very long 
time to finish. 

The recent Dutch Wiki Loves Art contest had a prize awarding event in the 
calendar from the start, which I think is a good idea. 

I think next time we should talk to the museums about awarding prizes before 
all the images are assessed. 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Pausing revision of the chapters agreement

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
We previously mentioned that the Wikimedia Foundation has started a discussion 
about concluding a new Chapter Agreement with Wikimedia UK and the other 
chapters. 

Unfortunately, the draft agreement that was put forward has generated 
significant disagreements between the Foundation and chapters and it hasn't 
been easy to get a consensus. The Foundation has therefore decided to put this 
process on hold until the next chapters meeting in spring next year. 

Full email from the Foundation is copied below for your information. We will, 
as always, keep supporters informed as to any further developments. 

Regards, 

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Kingdom. 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org 
To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) 
interna...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 03:20:10 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: [Internal-l] Pausing revision of the chapters agreement 

I apologize for the delay in composing this note. As you know, earlier 
this year we shared with you a first draft of a revised chapters 
agreement. This was designed to bring greater clarity to the chapters 
/ WMF relationship. 

There are clearly some points in this draft about which there is 
significant disagreement. While we would have ideally liked to develop 
consensus quickly, after some internal discussion, we've concluded 
that this is clearly not going to happen. We don't want disagreements 
about legal language to distract us from shared objectives, so we're 
suggesting that we park the issue for now. WMF and the chapters are 
working together constructively in many areas and we want to focus our 
energy on growing and deepening those relationships. 

With regard to newly approved chapters, we will execute the existing agreement: 

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation
 

There are some inconsistencies in current agreements with some 
chapters which we may seek to resolve directly with those chapters. 
And of course we'll continue to develop the fundraising agreement for 
the fundraiser and beyond. 

As you know, the strategic planning process is kicking into full gear, 
and we want chapters to be involved in this process to the greatest 
extent possible. The process may also inform how we want to structure 
the WMF / chapters relationship. Finally, we simply don't have the 
organizational bandwidth to engage in a deep, prolonged discussion 
about every element of the agreement structure at this point, and we 
don't want to do so at the expense of critical mission activities. 

I suggest that we reopen this discussion at the next WMF / chapters 
meeting at the earliest. I know there are some specific issues that 
are of concern to some chapters, such as online shops, and I hope that 
we'll be able to give more attention to these issues soon, and 
independently of this process. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Archive pictures of North East Midlands, England

2009-08-10 Thread Andrew Turvey
It would be good to see what they come back with. They already release low res 
images on the website for free personal non-commercial use, and they say 
they've researched all the copyright holders, so we may be lucky with this one. 

Having said that, I don't think it's an either - or situation. If things are 
available and legally in the public domain we should take full advantage of 
that, notwithstanding any agreements we may be able to make with the archive 
holders. 

- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: 
 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Cc: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common...@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 10 August, 2009 23:31:46 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
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 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Archive pictures of North East Midlands, England 
 
 Rather than taking that approach, it would be much better if we could 
 try to co-operate with them to upload their photos to Wikipedia, 
 complete with metadata, etc. As such, I've just emailed them to see 
 if they're interested in uploading some of their images to Commons. 
 
 Mike 
 
 On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:56, Andrew Turvey wrote: 
 
  I've recently come across the following website that publishes a 
  large number of old photographs held in local council archives in 
  Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire: 
  
  http://tinyurl.com/nydpcj 
  
  Many of the pictures are still in-copyright and have been released 
  for private use only. However, many are pre-1923 and hence 
  copyright expired, such as: 
  
  http://tinyurl.com/npay5t 
  
  Would it be copyright-compliant for someone, particularly someone 
  based in the US, to upload these photos to Commons based on the 
  principles of PD-ART? 
  
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[Wikimediauk-l] Last meeting

2009-08-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
Please find copied below the minutes of the last board meeting that we had last 
Wednesday 5th August. 

The main business was our continuing work on our charity commission 
application. The wording of our application has now been substantially 
finished. However, an investigation has revealed that the Schools Project will 
classify us as a childrens charity - a charity whose people work with 
children more than once a month. This will expand our child protection duties, 
including the requirement for written policies, complaints procedures and 
criminal checks on all trustees. 

We have decided to delay the application until these procedures are in place. 
Other items discussed included: 

- We have received the $8,150 grant from the Foundation to kick start our 
initiatives. 
- We're going to investigate moving the wiki from http://uk.wikimedia.org to 
http://www.wikimedia.org.uk , so as to avoid any conflict with Wikimedia 
Ukraine - the Ukrainian Wikipedia is at http://uk.wikipedia.org. 
- The August newsletter has been penciled in for Friday 14th. 

Any queries, comments or corrections are welcome either in reply to this 
message or on the talk page of the wiki. 

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Wikimedia UK Board meeting Wednesday 5th August 2009, 8:30pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 

Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Zeyi He (ZH); 
Tom Holden (TH); Joseph Seddon (JS); Paul Williams (PW) (part) 

Apologies: PW for late arrival; Steve Virgin (SV) 

Minutes of previous meetings 


The minutes of the meetings dated 21 July and 28 July were approved. It was 
agreed that the action for TD to contact the gazette to solicit a pro-bono 
lawyer would be dropped given the discussion on engaging a paid lawyer. 

The following actions were carried forward: 

1. PW agreed to draft an email to the WMF formalising the agreement to use 
Wikimedia Foundation trademarks in members-only merchandising and to look into 
where we could produce merchandise. 

2. MP agreed to draft templates for the six press scenarios identified at Media 
relations#Media response . 

3. AT to send out the details of the February 2009 Wikipedia Loves Art prizes. 

4. MP agreed to install a wordpress blog at http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/blog . 

5. MP agreed to work with SV to do mini press releases, no more than one per 
month, advertising spikes in traffic per WP:POPULAR related to particular news 
events. 

6. JS agreed to get a copy of the WMF's press release contact list in the UK. 

7. MP agreed to add the HMRC letter appendices as attachments to section C of 
the Charity Commission application 

8. PW will research into the requirement for CRB checks for Schools Project 
volunteers and their transferability in liason with JS. 

9. PW will develop a proposal for buying a computer for the Schools Project 
with, potentially, peripherals such as a projector, screen, printer etc. 

Matters arising 


JS will draft an email for the Open Knowledge Foundation mailing list, to 
recruit new members. 

ACTION: JS 

With regard to setting up wikipedia.x.uk as a portal along the lines of 
http://wikipedia.de , it was agreed that the risks were unquantified. Rather 
than looking into it at the moment, it was agreed we would revisit in January 
2010. 

AT agreed to take on the business cards printing. 

ACTION: AT 

Reports 


Secretary 


The Secretary's Report was noted. AT will reply to the charity as proposed. 

ACTION: AT 

It was agreed that we would try to move our wiki at http://uk.wikimedia.org to 
http://www.wikimedia.org.uk subject to technical feasibility re Single User 
Logins and hosting, with gb.wikimedia.org as a potential alternative. MP will 
investigate. 

ACTION: MP 

Treasurer 


The Treasurer's Report was noted, which includes the receipt of the 
Foundation's grant. TH has created subaccounts in the accounting software which 
ensures that the funds, which are designated for particular purposes, are not 
used for other expenses. Balances for each initiative will be reported in 
future Treasurers' Reports. 

Chair 


The Chair's Report was noted. MP agreed to follow up with Wikimedia Ukraine 
regarding the uk. website conflict. 

Initiatives 


PW joined the meeting 

The Initiatives Report was noted. ZH agreed to follow up with each initiative 
leader on progress with the timeline milestone of Establish a plan for each 
initiative including timetable, aim and outline costing, which is due by 31 
August. 

Corporate relations 


SV had spoken to AT before the meeting: SB has been in touch wanting to 
progress the BBC work, having received his token of thanks. For the next 
fortnight, SV has focus on his work where he is facing

[Wikimediauk-l] Last week's board meeting summary

2009-08-04 Thread Andrew Turvey
Please find copied below the draft minutes of last week's board meeting: 

The meeting focused on the chapter's initiatives, in particular the three 
initiatives that we have committed to completing by the next AGM. At a previous 
meeting the Board agreed to adopt the Schools Project, London Loves Wikipedia 
and Workplace Learning Lunches as the three initiatives and to find a project 
leader and a core group of volunteers for each of these by the end of July. If 
you're interested in volunteering with any of these initiatives please contact 
the project leader or sign up on the initiative page. 

The Schools Project is being led by Paul Williams and six more volunteers have 
already put their names down to go into schools. PW updated the board on 
progress and full details are available at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project 

London Loves Wikipedia will be led by Mike Peel, with four other volunteers 
assisting. It may be made wider in scope than just London - discussions are 
ongoing. It was agreed that we would not actively recruiting museums at the 
moment whilst the National Portrait Gallery controversy is ongoing. 

Workplace Learning Lunches is being led by Steve Virgin. Four speakers have 
volunteered and we will try to recruit organisations as well as the BBC to push 
this programme. 

We have also put in a request to advertise this with a Geonotice on English 
Wikipedia and this is currently active. 

In addition to these three initiatives, we also have funding from the 
Foundation for content access partnership work. The original idea was that 
this would be along the lines of the Bundesarchiv deal with Wikimedia Germany. 
Although individual contacts are ongoing, we do not currently have a tangible 
plan for delivering this. Discussions are ongoing - please let us know if you 
can help us take this forward. 

We also have a good list of other ideas at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Proposals and 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Ideas - please let us know if you are 
interesting in taking any of these forward and let us know what we can do to 
help! 

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Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 21st July 2009, 8:45pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 

Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Zeyi He (ZH); 
Tom Holden (TH); Joseph Seddon (JS); Paul Williams (PW) (part) 




Apologies: PW for early departure; Steve Virgin (SV) 


Note: The chair delayed the meeting from 8:30 to allow for ZH to arrive. 

Fundraising resolution 


Thomas Dalton (Tango42, TD) has approached the board with a suggestion 
regarding a fundraising drive. TD proposed the following text: 

 The board resolves to authorise Thomas Dalton to form a temporary working 
group to put together a proposal for a fundraising drive starting on 9th August 
2009 and lasting 2 weeks  

TD explained that he had offered to organise a fundraiser and wanted help. He 
wants to have an official working group to produce a proposal that the board 
would then consider. 

AT suggested that the board should instead appoint the working group members. 
Whilst this was being discussed, TD withdrew the motion. 

Initiatives (ZH) 


Role of Board, Chair, Secretary, Initiatives Director 


It was agreed that the initiatives director should coordinate the various 
initiatives, producing a progress report for each board meeting with, for 
instance, achievements, plans and obstacles. The board then has an overview 
role to monitor progress and discuss obstacles as needed. 

ACTION: ZH 

Geonotice 


It was agreed that the chapter would seek a geonotice on the watchlist of UK 
contributors to English Wikipedia to advertise the chapter and its initatives. 
Various options for wording was discussed and MP agreed to approach the page to 
request. 

ACTION: MP Done see 
wikipedia:Wikipedia:Geonotice#Wikimedia_UK_initiatives_notice . 

Wiki page 


It was agreed to set up a wiki page - Volunteer - where new supporters can be 
directed which would have all the ways that people can get involved. 

PW agreed to establish 

Schools project (PW) 


PW has been developing the initiative page . Eight people have volunteered so 
far, including six who are prepared to go into schools. PW will research into 
the reqirement for CRB checks and their transferability in liason with JS. 

ACTION: PW 

PW will develop a proposal for buying a computer with, potentially, peripherals 
such as a projector, screen, printer etc. 

ACTION: PW 

PW

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotice

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
Indeed - it's up to them whether they publish it or not. We're just asking like 
any other editors - they're free to say no. 

- Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: 
 From: Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 00:47:33 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotice 
 
 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Andrew 
 Turveyandrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: 
  Is it worth putting in a request like this? 
  
 
 Just make sure that you *request it* so that enwp doesn't get into one 
 of its moods and is like omg, a chapter thinks they have a say on 
 wiki, heads will roll. Having a paper trail that you followed 
 protocol/filed a request is a good thing. :-) 
 
 That being said, seems like a good idea to me. 
 
 -- 
 Casey Brown 
 Cbrown1023 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotice

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
What's your timescale for the fundraising geonotice? 

This is what I'm unsure of. If people are publishing notices for every monthly 
meetup, we may be ok to have both. 

- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 00:30:19 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotice 
 
 2009/7/22 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: 
  Following a discussion after the Board, someone suggested putting up a 
  geonotice on Wikipedia watchlists to advertise the chapter's activities. 
  
  Looking through the archive they seem quite happy to publish even monthly 
  meetups, so I'd like to suggest that we do one now, along the lines of: 
  
  Wikimedia UK are currently recruiting volunteers for three new 
  [[wmuk:Initiatives|initiatives]]. Please help us support open knowledge in 
  the UK 
  
  (too long I know - suggestions gratefully received) 
  
  Is it worth putting in a request like this? 
 
 As I said on IRC, hold off on that. We can't bombard people with too 
 many notices, so we need to wait and work out what we want to say. I'm 
 investigating the possibility of using geonotices for a fundraising 
 drive, so let me finish that before you start carrying out conflicting 
 plans. 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Loves Wikipedia

2009-07-20 Thread Andrew Turvey
Before we start running ahead of ourselves on this, please remember that we 
need to get volunteers to help out first! Please spread the word and ask anyone 
who you think might be able to help. 

I'm happy to lend a hand - I had the discussions with the VA last time - but 
would prefer someone else led the initiative. It would be particularly good if 
someone from outside the board could lead this one, given that the other three 
initiatives are all going to be lead by board members. 

Regards, 

Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 20 July, 2009 17:05:16 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Loves Wikipedia 
 
 2009/7/20 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net: 
  Hi all, 
  
  You're probably all aware of the London Loves WIkipedia initiative, 
  which has been funded (via the WMF) and will be running in the next 
  year (most likely the actual event will run in february 2010). The 
  page for this is at: 
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/London_Loves_Wikipedia 
  
  Who would be interested in lending a hand organizing this? 
  
  The first task would be figuring out everything that's necessary - 
  but a broad-brush overview would be: 
  1. Get museums involved, start discussions with them as to what can 
  be photographed, what rules are necessary, when special events should 
  happen etc. 
 
 Someone should contact the London Mayor's office as well - if we can 
 get their endorsement it would probably help a lot. 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Presentation - Wikipedia in Schools

2009-07-19 Thread Andrew Turvey
cheers Tango! 

Comments in-line 

- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 19 July, 2009 22:30:11 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Presentation - Wikipedia in Schools 
 
 2009/7/19 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: 
  All comments gratefully received! 
 
 I'll comment as I read - please excuse me not using a sandwich technique! 
 
 Slide 2: Where does the 900,000 contributors come from? 

http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediansContributors.htm. Note this is 
all languages - 928,022 is exact figure 

I think I'll change it to 95,000 - the figure for Active Wikipedians 

 Not all use 
 pseudonyms, registered users would be better. 

Registered users is a good phrase to use when talking to wikipedians but I'm 
not sure someone outside will know what this means. I came across pseudonym 
as a description for usernames when reading a few external articles - more 
accurate than anonymous. 

Of course some people use their real names, but the norm seems to be pseudonyms 
- like Tango for instance - and I think thats all thats needed fotr a general 
introduction like this, 

 The WMF prefers not to 
 be thought of as a publisher for legal reasons - I would go for 
 hosted. 

I agree. Hosted sounds a bit to little - I'll go with operated which is how 
the Foundation terms it here, for instance: 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/e/e5/WP_Key_Facts_jun_2009.pdf 

 Slide 4: I think statements are better than questions for this kind of 
 thing. As far as I know, you aren't leading a discussion session. The 
 slides should summarise what you are saying. 

Changed. Although I've put it as a presentation, they've asked for it to be as 
interactive as possible, but I agree these shouldn't be in as questions. 

 Slide 5: There is some non-free content in Wikipedia. While fair use 
 images should be reusable as part of the articles in which they 
 appear, they may not be reusable in their own right. 

Good point - i've amended. 

 Slide 6: An example with references would be better. (It looks like 
 you've removed the references because there were too many - find an 
 example with a more reasonable number so you can include them.) 

Not clear from the slide notes, but the purpose of this slide is to show how 
one third party attributes text copied from Wikipedia - I'll circle the the 
source of this article is Wikipedia, the free enclyclopedia. The text of ... 
and add this to the notes. 

 Slide 7: I'd rather WMUK didn't draw conclusions about how 
 child-friendly Wikipedia is. Present the facts and let people make up 
 their own minds. Personally, I think it is perfectly child-friendly, 
 since I don't see any harm coming from exposure to sex and violence. 

I'm talking to primary school teachers here as well as secondary school 
teachers. From the schools Wikipedia website: 
Wikipedia is not necessarily a childsafe environment and has adult content. 

I'll change it to use their wordings. 

 Slide 9: Bear in mind that the Nature study is several years old now. 
 Wikipedia has changed a lot since then. 

True, and the study was very limited anyway. However, I'm not aware of any 
other studies that have been done. 

 Slide 10: Typo: an-a. 

Good spot! 

 I wouldn't recommend COIs - drop the school bit. 

Changed. 

 Slide 12: WikiSpecies is hardly one of our major projects. I would 
 replace it with Wiktionary (I would also spell Wiktionary 
 correction! ;)). 

It isn't, but it contains lots of educational material, which I could imagine 
teachers using. I've added Wiktionary though, spelt correctly! 

 Ok, those are my negative comments. Positive comment (half a sandwich, 
 at least!): I think you've chosen the correct material. You are 
 prioritising the right stuff. Just make sure you time yourself going 
 through it (out loud) to make sure you can fit it all in. Good luck! 

Cheers! I've got 20 minutes to do 10 slides (well, 10 with material on it) 
which seems about right. 

I'll let you know how I get on. 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
I'm pleased to share with everyone that I've managed to get myself in as a 
speaker in the Open Source Schools unconference in Nottingham next Monday 
20th July. Although it's primarily focused on open source software, they have 
agreed to extend it to talking about open source content as well. 

I'll be leading a session from 2:05 - 2:35 on the subject of using Wikipedia 
in Schools 

More details are: 

Session introduction: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/node/11659 
Conference programme: http://opensourceschools.org.uk/unconference09 
Venue: http://www.ncsl.org.uk/lcc-map.pdf 

If you are able to come along please do - it runs from 10-4 at a venue near 
Nottingham University. The cost is free for all school and local authority 
staff and presenters and £55 for others. The key note speakers are George 
Auckland , Head of Learning Innovation at BBC Learning and Graham Attwell , 
Director of Pontydysgu , an e-learning company. 

Please spread the word and please let me have any suggestions for the kinds of 
things I should cover. 

Regards, 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, Monday 20th July

2009-07-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 16:50:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Source Schools conference, Nottingham, 
 Monday 20th July 
 
 Great stuff! Take a stack of Wikipedia for Schools CDs (or DVDs, 

I'll try! Hope they arrive on time. 

 whatever it's on these days) to hand out. I guess you need to spend 
 most of the time emphasising how to use Wikipedia properly and that, 
 if you do use it properly, it is a good research tool so shouldn't be 
 banned. 

Yes - I guess primary and secondary school teachers aren't going to be so 
focused on reliability issues compared to university teachers - but I might be 
proved wrong! 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Who in the UK has done museum negotiations?

2009-07-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
The Victoria and Albert Museum worked with us on the Wikipedia Loves Art 
project - that involved licensing photographs of their work under CC-BY-SA. 

- David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 12 July, 2009 19:36:37 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Who in the UK has done museum negotiations? 
 
 As in, not the NPG, but museums who are actually willing to do a deal, 
 get works out as CC by-sa if not PD with a great big credit, etc. 
 
 Anyone in the UK actually done this? 
 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Tuesday's Board meeting

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi all, 

Copied below is the minutes of the meeting we had last Tuesday which are also 
published on the wiki at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-07-07. 
Please let me know if you have any questions or corrections. 

The main topics of discussion were our initiatives and charity application: 

Initiatives 

The board decided to choose the following three initiatives as the ones we're 
committed to completing by March next year: 

1) The Schools Project, led by our Volunteers Director, Paul Williams - see 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project 
2) The London Loves Wikipedia project - see 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/London_Loves_Wikipedia 
3) The workplace learning lunches initiative at the BBC 

The Foundation grant previously announced on this list will fund the first two 
initiatives as well as a fourth initiative - engaging with museums and similar 
bodies to encourage them to release content under free licenses - which we aim 
to complete by July next year. 

Charity application 

Given that the grant from the Foundation pushes us over the £5,000 threshold, 
the Commission has advised us that we should submit our application to them 
within a reasonable time of receiving the donation, notwithstanding our 
previous correspondence with HMRC. We have therefore started work on this 
immediately. 

Regards, 


Andrew Turvey 
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Kingdom. 




Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 7th July 2009, 8:30pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 

Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Joseph Seddon 
(JS); Paul Williams (PW) 

Apologies: Steve Virgin (SV); Tom Holden (TH); Zeyi He (ZH) for late arrival 

[ edit ] Minutes of the previous meetings 


The minutes of the meeting dated 23 June were approved. 

The following actions have been carried forward: 

1. JS to send the tokens of our appreciation to the retiring Directors, tellers 
and external speakers. 

ACTION: JS 

2. PW will arrange the production of business cards for Wikimedia UK officials. 

ACTION: PW 

3. TD agreed to contact the gazette on behalf of WMUK to solicit a pro-bono 
lawyer 

ACTION: TD 

4. The cost to attend the Online Information 2009 (1-3 Dec, London) conference 
is £400/day/person (£400 for the 3 days for registered charities). JS will 
confirm whether speakers have to pay this fee. In the event that speakers do 
have to pay the fee, SV will look into getting a slot in a fringe event 
instead. 

ACTION: JS; SV 

5. AT to thank the pro-bono lawyer for his offer of help, explain the Board has 
decided to respond to HMRC ASAP; if this is not successful we may then seek 
legal advice so would be grateful for assistance then if it's still available 
and would they be prepared to advise us on the chapters agreement. 

ACTION: AT 

6. AT to submit expenses AGM claim . 

ACTION: AT 

7. PW agreed to finalise the design, contact interested members to see what 
cards they want and organise the printing. 

ACTION: PW 

8. PW agreed to draft an email to the WMF formalising the agreement to use 
Wikimedia Foundation trademarks in members-only merchandising and to look into 
where we could produce merchandise. 

ACTION: PW 

[ edit ] Matters arising 


[ edit ] Press response templates 


It was agreed that the six scenarios identified at Media relations#Media 
response would be sufficient for now. MP agreed to draft these templates. 

ACTION: MP 

[ edit ] Pro bono lawyers 


It was decided that we would approach potential pro-bono lawyers once the 
chapter agreement and the charity application were at a stage where we needed 
specific advice, rather than seeking to engage a general on-call lawyer. 

[ edit ] .uk project domain names 


Board members were concerned that if the chapter owned domains like 
wikipedia.org.uk they could attract liability to the chapter for project 
content and make it subject to UK libel laws. However, it was acknowledged that 
it could be a good source of traffic and hence revenue if it is used to 
redirect to uk.wikimedia.org. It was agreed that MP would contact Wikimedia 
Deutschland to ask them how much revenue they get from their redirect from 
wikipedia.de and we will reconsider when this is known. 

ACTION: MP 

[ edit ] Reports 


[ edit ] Secretary's Report 


The report here was noted. 

AT informed that he had not heard anything back from HMRC and isn't sure if it 
will take another 8 weeks for our letter to be processed. 

JS volunteered to help Wikimedia Indonesia with their proofreading request - AT 
will put them in touch. 

ACTION: AT Done 

[ edit ] Treasurer's Report 


This was unavailable so it was agreed the next meeting would have a report to 
cover four weeks. 

[ edit ] Chair's Report 


The report

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Speakers

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew Turvey
On Jul 8, 3:17 pm, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 Here we assume!

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Speakers

 Gordo

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redirects there and it's shorter to type!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Speakers

2009-07-07 Thread Andrew Turvey
A few opportunities are coming up for members who may be willing to speak on 
behalf of the chapter in lunchtime meetings, conferences etc or as 
interviewees. We will sometimes, but not always, be able to pay for travel and 
subsistence expenses. 






This is a great way of helping the chapter spread the word about the things we 
do and it also gives you good exposure in public speaking and raises your 
profile among media circles. 




If you are interested in volunteering for this, please could you email me the 
following details: 

- what experience you have in public speaking, if any 
- what experience you have with Wikimedia projects, including any roles such as 
administrator 
- what is your availability (location/times) 
- what kind of events you would like to help with 
- how you would like to be contacted 




I will be putting these details (minus the contact details) on the wiki at 
uk.wikimedia.org/Speakers - if you want it to be kept confidential please let 
me know and I will put it on board.wikimedia.org/Speakers instead. 




Alternatively please feel free to add yourself to the wiki directly. 
Regards, 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Phorm opt-out for Wikimedia.org.uk

2009-07-07 Thread Andrew Turvey
You may remember that a few months ago, the Wikimedia Foundation decided to 
send an opt out message to Phorm regarding their user-profiling system. 

At the time we decided in principle to do the same for our domain - 
wikimedia.org.uk - but we delayed implementing this until the ownership had 
been transferred. 

Now that the transfer has been completed, we have sent our notice to Phorm, 
which is copied below. Please note that uk.wikimedia.org has already opted out 
as this is a subdomain of wikimedia.org, whcih is owned by the Foundation. 

Regards, 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com 
To: website-exclus...@webwise.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 17:40:37 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
Subject: Phorm opt-out for Wikimedia.org.uk 


To whom it may concern, 

Wikimedia UK requests that the following website, owned by us, and all related 
domains be excluded from scanning by the Phorm / BT Webwise system, as we 
consider the scanning and profiling of our visitors' bahaviour by a third party 
to be an infringement on their pirvacy: 

wikimedia.org.uk (including all subdomains) 

Thank you for your time, 



Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Interview request

2009-06-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
I've replied to Ian volunteering to be interviewed, as no one else has
expressed an interest.

I'll let you know what he comes back with - sounds interesting!

On Jun 25, 5:56 pm, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/25 geni geni...@gmail.com:



  2009/6/25 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
  2009/6/25 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
  From: Ian Hawkins ian.hawk...@gmail.com
  It's rare to find anything other than top-down structures in business,
  banking, the media, education etc. I wondered if Wikipedia is a great
  example of a more open and democratic structure.

  Controversial topic! Wikipedians can't generally agree on how
  democratic Wikipedia is currently or how democratic it should be in
  the future. Doing justice to the topic will probably take longer than
  the couple of minutes I expect he's after. Personally, I wouldn't want
  to step on that particular ants nest without doing justice to it, so
  I'm afraid I will decline.

  Might be worth emailing him to point out that per policy wikipedia is
  not a democracy and see if he realises what he is getting into.

 Yes, I agree. We should let him know that the answer isn't going to be
 anything simple.

 (If anyone is interested in this topic, there is a discussion on the
 future governance of Wikipedia going on here:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Giano/The_future

 The discussion is focuses around deciding if we need to have a more
 formal discussion about the issues. [Don't be frightened away by the
 fact that it is in Giano's userspace, it's being held with an amazing
 amount of maturity and courtesy by all parties.])

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[Wikimediauk-l] Board meeting - membership recruitment, fundraising, initiatives

2009-06-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
inutes 

Hi all, 




The minutes of the last board meeting are now up on the wiki at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-06-23 and copied for your 
convenience below. Please could you let me have any corrections or queries. 





At the last meeting, we had three key discussions on membership recruitment, 
fundraising and initiatives. One of the key conclusions was how interlinked 
these are - the more initiatives we have, particularly those that are 
participative, the more members we can attract to the chapter. Subscription 
fees will then be able to cover the administrative costs of running the 
chapter, meaning we can focus our fundraising on initiatives. 




We affirmed our commitment to completing at least three initiatives by the time 
of the next AGM in spring 2010. To this end, we've adopted a timeline (at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives#Timeline) which says we aim to 
identify the three initiatives by 15 July, establish a person to lead for each 
task by 31 July and set out a full plan with costs, timetable and resource 
requirement by the end of August. 




Next Tuesday, the board will holding an open discussion on initiatives in 
#wikimedia-uk - please come along and let us know what ideas you have, share 
ideas and let us know what you can do to help. 




In the meantime we are looking into creating a range of members-only 
merchandising, which will feature Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK logos 
on mugs, ties, cufflinks and so on. Let us know what kinds of items you would 
be interested in buying! 





We are also having business cards printed so that those people who represent 
the chapter will be able to give out a professional and consistent image. If 
you would like to have some of these cards printed, please contact Paul 
Williams, our Volunteers Director (ccd above) . 





Finally, we noted that our response to HMRC has now been sent in, and we are 
waiting to see how that is received. 


Regards, 


Andrew Turvey 

Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 





Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 23rd June 2009, 8:30pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 
Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Joseph Seddon 
(JS); Paul Williams (PW); Tom Holden (TH) 

Apologies: Steve Virgin (SV); Zeyi He (ZH) 


Contents 
[ hide ] 



• 1 Minutes of the previous meetings 




• 1.1 Matters arising 




• 1.1.1 Business cards 
• 2 Reports 




• 2.1 Secretary's Report 
• 2.2 Treasurer's Report 
• 2.3 Chair's Report 
• 2.4 Conferences Report 
• 2.5 Corporate relations Report 
• 3 Membership recruitment 
• 4 Newsletter 
• 5 Initiatives 
• 6 Fundraising 
• 7 Next meeting 


[ edit ] Minutes of the previous meetings 
The minutes of the meetings dated 9 June were approved. 
The following actions have been carried forward: 
1. JS to send the tokens of our appreciation to the retiring Directors, tellers 
and external speakers. 
ACTION: JS 
2. TH to contact the bank to notify them of the new directors, to change the 
signatories to any two of MP, AT and TH and to set up AT and MP on the online 
banking. ZH, SV and JS to return to TH the forms they have received. 

ACTION: ZH, SV, JS, TH 
3. MP to organise transfer of wikimedia.org.uk to WMUK. 
ACTION: MP /wiki/ File:Yes_check.svg Picture (Metafile)/wiki/ 
File:Yes_check.svg Done 
4. AT will send the opt out email re Phorm once wikimedia.org.uk has been 
transferred. 
ACTION: AT 
5. PW will arrange the production of business cards for Wikimedia UK officials. 
ACTION: PW 
6. SV, MP, JS to collate press response template list 
ACTION: SV, MP + JS 
7. TD agreed to contact the gazette on behalf of WMUK to solicit a pro-bono 
lawyer 
ACTION: TD 
8. MP agreed to contact pro bono lawyer groups by email 
ACTION: MP 
9. JS to copy the standard templates from OTRS for use in the press response 
template 
ACTION: JS 
10. JS to clarify if the offer of help from WJBScribe means formal written 
advice that can be relied upon or informal word of mouth assistance. 

ACTION: JS 
11. The cost to attend the Online Information 2009 (1-3 Dec, London) conference 
is £400/day/person (£400 for the 3 days for registered charities). JS will 
confirm whether speakers have to pay this fee. 

ACTION: JS 
12. In the event that speakers do have to pay the fee, SV will look into 
getting a slot in a fringe event instead. 
ACTION: SV 
13. Once this is established, JS, MP, AT will work on a submission 
14. AT to thank the pro-bono lawyer for his offer of help, explain the Board 
has decided to respond to HMRC ASAP; if this is not successful we may

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: worth watching

2009-06-21 Thread Andrew Turvey
Interesting information below.It would be great if they could come up with a form of "Crown Commons" that was compatible with our licenses rather than ending up with something like the BBC's creative license. - Forwarded Message -From: "Steve Virgin" steve.vir...@dowjones.comTo: "WMUK" bo...@wikimedia.org.ukSent: Friday, 19 June, 2009 14:05:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, PortugalSubject: worth watching

















New
Infomation Advisor

http://blogs.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/digitalengagement/



by Richard 9. June 2009 12:40 



First off a big
thank you to everyone who has contributed to our earlier post on what
a data.gov service might look like in the UK.

The big news for us
is that Tim Berners-Lee has agreed to help the UK government
make our information more open and accessible on the web - part of a
drive towards letting the data about public services be public and open.

This work will be
building on the work of the Power
of Information Taskforce and their
report. The Digital Engagement team are delighted to be supporting Tim in
his work.

A few of the things
he and his panel of technical and delivery experts will doing are:

·
overseeing the creation of a single
online point of access and work with departments to make this part of their
routine operations. 

·
helping to select and implement
common standards for the release of public data 

·
developing Crown Copyright and 'Crown Commons'
licenses and extending these to the wider public sector 

·
driving the use of the internet to
improve consultation processes. 

·
working with the Government to engage
with the leading experts internationally working on public data and standards 

This is
strengthening the oversight, challenge and insight available as we drive the
Digital Engagement agenda forward.





Steve Virgin

Media Consultant

Dow Jones Insight

Commodity Quay, East Smithfield, London
E1W 1AZ.



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Mob: +44 (0)7795 031 935/07766 227 352

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and services to help you make better decisions, faster





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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digital Britain

2009-06-16 Thread Andrew Turvey
Promising extract from the Executive Summary: 

79 Public Service data and content play an increasingly important role in the 
digital economy. The Government has embraced the vision of the Power of 
Information Task Force and, in respect of important data sources for 
innovation, 
such as geospatial data, agencies are significantly improving access to data 
and 
clearer licensing pathways from innovation to large scale commercial use. 

80 Government commissioning represents a third of the total investment in 
professional UK online content. Despite existing guidance many public online 
commissions still prohibit the re-use of IP. This leads to wasteful warehousing 
of rights. NESTA will pilot a simplified IP framework for digital media 
bringing 
together PACT, the Cabinet Office, Kew Gardens and Arts Council England. 

The Power of Information Task Force sounds interesting - it includes Tom 
Steinberg from MySociety (publishers of TheyWorkForYou.com) 


- Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: 
 From: Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 June, 2009 01:07:21 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Digital Britain 
 
 
 Has anyone had a read of the Carter Report that's been in the news today. I 
 wondered if there are any opportunities there for pressing open knowledge? 
 
 One quote stood out: Britain is going to lead the world. This is us taking 
 the next step into the future, being the digital capital of the world 
 
 Could that include being the open knowledge capital of the world? 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Tuesday's board meeting

2009-06-14 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi all, 

The minutes of Tuesday's Board meeting are now published on the wiki and are 
copied below for your information. If you have any queries on any items please 
let me or another board member know and let me know if you have any 
corrections. 

The main items that were discussed that may be of interest to members and 
supporters: 

- Our response to HMRC regarding charity status is nearly finalised and will be 
sent out this week 
- Discussions are ongoing with Manchester Tourist Board regarding a possible 
bid for Wikimania 2013 
- Discussions are ongoing regarding potential initiatives with the BBC, the 
Manchester Museum of Science  Industry, Vega Science Trust and other people 
- The board continues to deal with various press enquiries and is putting 
together a set of template press responses 
- We are looking into the costs of producing business cards for chapter 
officers and supporters 

Board members - please could you mark your actions as {{done}}, {{doing}}, 
{{cf}} pr {{not done}} as appropriate and also mark {{discuss}} if you think it 
needs discussing again. 

Regards, 

-- 

Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 

-- 

Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 9th June 2009, 8:30pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 

Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Steve Virgin (SV); Joseph Seddon (JS); Paul 
Williams (PW) 

Apologies: Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Tom Holden (TH) and Zeyi He (ZH), all 
for late arrival 

Minutes of the previous meetings 

The minutes of the meetings dated 26 May and 2 June were approved. 

The following actions have been carried forward: 

1. JS to send the tokens of our appreciation to the retiring Directors, tellers 
and external speakers. 

'''ACTION: JS 

2. TH to contact the bank to notify them of the new directors, to change the 
signatories to any two of MP, AT and TH and to set up AT and MP on the online 
banking. MP, ZH, SV and JS to return to TH the forms they have received. 

'''ACTION: TH, MP, ZH, SV, JS 

3. MP to organise transfer of wikimedia.org.uk to WMUK. 

'''ACTION: MP 

4. AT will send the opt out email re Phorm once wikimedia.org.uk has been 
transferred. 

'''ACTION: AT 

5. PW will continue to research what is needed to produce business cards for 
Wikimedia UK officials. 

'''ACTION: PW 

6. PW agreed to start pushing membership and organise the Membership/Drive 
page. 

'''ACTION: PW 

7. MP, SV, JS agreed to send suggestions on membership to PW by 9 June. 

'''ACTION: MP, SV, JS 

8. SV, MP, JS to collate press response template list 

'''ACTION: SV, MP + JS 

9. ZH to prepare a timeline for WMUK initiatives. 

'''ACTION: ZH 

10. TD agreed to contact the gazette on behalf of WMUK to solicit a pro-bono 
lawyer 

'''ACTION: TD 

11. TH + MP agreed to contact pro bono lawyer groups by email 

'''ACTION: TH + MP 

12. JS to copy the standard templates from OTRS for use in the press response 
template 

'''ACTION: JS 

13. JS to clarify if the offer of help from WJBScribe means formal written 
advice that can be relied upon or informal word of mouth assistance. 

'''ACTION: JS 

14. The cost to attend is £400/day/person (£400 for the 3 days for registered 
charities). JS will confirm whether speakers have to pay this fee. 

'''ACTION: JS 

15. In the event that speakers do have to pay the fee, SV will look into 
getting a slot in a fringe event instead. 

'''ACTION: SV 

16. Once this is established, JS, MP, AT will work on a submission 

'''ACTION: JS, MP, AT 

17. The Vega Science Trust, a not-for-profit publishing material on the 
internet; JS and SV will follow up with a call to discuss collaboration 
opportunities. 

'''ACTION: JS; SV 

18. Bairds, a public affairs consultancy who may be able to help regarding 
funding for Welsh language projects. JS and SV will follow up to discuss 
collaboration opportunities. 

'''ACTION: JS; SV 

19. The Red Maids school regarding the wikischools idea. JS and SV will 
progress 

'''ACTION: JS; SV 

20. AT to thank the pro-bono lawyer for his offer of help, explain the Board 
has decided to respond to HMRC ASAP; if this is not successful we may then seek 
legal advice so would be grateful for assistance then if it's still available 
and would they be prepared to advise us on the chapters agreement. 

Matters arising 

SV has followed up on the BBC email and has reported back by phone to MP, AT 
and JS. SV agreed to phone TH, PW and ZH to inform them of progress. 

'''ACTION: SV 

''ZH joined the meeting 

PW will circulate the designs of the WMUK business cards 

'''ACTION: PW 

''TH joined the meeting 

''AT joined the meeting 

PW will send AT a copy of the Wikimedia chapters design template 

'''ACTION: PW {{done}} 

TH will send AT a copy

[Wikimediauk-l] Press response templates

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi all, 

Given the amount of recent press coverage we have had [1], we would like to 
develop some positive template messages promoting the Wikimedia projects and 
responding to common criticisms. We hope that these can be used to positively 
set the agenda for our media coverage rather than having to respond on the back 
foot. 

At the moment we would like to compile a list of common scenarios where these 
could be used. I've started a section at [2] to collate these - 

The examples I've put in already are: 

1 Vandalism - Wikipedia's useless because it's full of vandalism 
2 Reliability - Wikipedia is not as reliable as other sources 

We'd like to end up with about 6-10 scenarios - please could you help us with 
this by adding your suggestions there or by replying to this message. 

Many thanks! 

[1] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Newsletter/June2009#Press_Coverage 
[2] http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Media_relations#Media_response 



Andrew Turvey 
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Wikimedia UK 
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Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Press response templates

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
If you could fetch it out and put it up on the wiki that would be extremely 
helpful! 

presume it's ok to make this stuff publicly available? 

cheers 

- Sean Whitton s...@silentflame.com wrote: 
 From: Sean Whitton s...@silentflame.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Cc: WMUK bo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 Sent: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 17:30:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Press response templates 
 
 Hi, 
 
 On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 17:11, Andrew Turveyandrewrtur...@googlemail.com 
 wrote: 
  Given the amount of recent press coverage we have had [1], we would like to 
  develop some positive template messages promoting the Wikimedia projects 
  and responding to common criticisms. We hope that these can be used to 
  positively set the agenda for our media coverage rather than having to 
  respond on the back foot. 
  
  At the moment we would like to compile a list of common scenarios where 
  these could be used. I've started a section at [2] to collate these - 
 
 You can get a lot of useful text for this from OTRS. Does anyone on 
 the board/etc. have press queue access or would you like me to fetch 
 some out? The standard info-en queue also has easily-tweakable 
 messages for things like vandalism. 
 
 S 
 
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 OpenPGP KeyID: 0x25F4EAB7 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent: Wikipedia 'sentinel' quits after usi

2009-06-08 Thread Andrew Turvey
I didn't understand that post. Who is Tristan and where are the comments 
attacking him? 

- Peter Cohen pet...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: 
 From: Peter Cohen pet...@cix.compulink.co.uk 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 10:12:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Independent: Wikipedia 'sentinel' quits after 
 usi 
 
 In-Reply-To: 84629398-8b11-4412-a106-77156d534...@mikepeel.net 
 It's a shame that the comments include an attack on Tristan. 
 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Board minutes - 2nd June

2009-06-05 Thread Andrew Turvey
Dear all, 

The draft minutes of our Board meeting last Tuesday, 2nd June are up at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-06-02 and copied below. Please let 
us know if you have any comments or corrections. 

Regards, 



Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 



Wikimedia UK Board meeting Tuesday 2nd June 2009, 8:30pm BST at 
#wikimedia-uk-board 

Present: Michael Peel (MP) (Chair); Andrew Turvey (AT) (minutes); Steve Virgin 
(SV); Joseph Seddon (JS) 

Apologies: Paul Williams (PW), Tom Holden (TH) 

Absent: Zeyi He (ZH)
Contents 
[ hide ] 

• 1 Minutes of the previous meeting 
• 1.1 Matters arising 
• 2 Reports 
• 2.1 Secretary (AT) 
• 2.2 Conferences (JS) 
• 2.3 Corporate Relations (SV) 
• 3 HMRC response 
• 4 New chapters agreement 
• 5 Process to appoint the chapter-selected Board members of the Wikimedia 
Foundation in 2010 
• 6 Next Meeting 


Minutes of the previous meeting 


Approval of the minutes of the meeting of the 26th May was delayed to ensure 
all brought forward actions had been captured. 

The following actions were carried forward: 

• JS to send the tokens of our appreciation to the retiring Directors, 
tellers and external speakers. 


ACTION: JS 

• TH to contact the bank to notify them of the new directors, to change the 
signatories to any two of MP, AT and TH and to set up AT and MP on the online 
banking. 


ACTION: TH 

• PW will talk to SV and ZH to get them set up with an account on IRC and 
give them operator rights. 


ACTION: PW 

• MP has transferred ownership of wikimedia.co.uk to us; MP still to 
organise transfer of wikimedia.org.uk with current owner. 


ACTION: MP 

• AT will send the opt out email re Phorm once wikimedia.org.uk has been 
transferred. 


ACTION: AT 

• PW will continue to research what is needed to produce business cards for 
Wikimedia UK officials. 


ACTION: PW 

• PW to obtain the list of email recipients and send them the May 
newsletter 


ACTION: PW 

• PW agreed to start pushing membership and organise the Membership/Drive 
page. MP, AT, SV, JS agreed to send suggestions to PW by 9 June. 


ACTION: MP, AT, SV, JS 

• So that we can use it for members-only merchandising, AT agreed to send 
the email to the Foundation previously discussed asking for permission to use 
their trademarks. 


ACTION: AT 

• JS will discuss with Manchester Tourist Board on their support for a 
possible Manchester Wikimania Bid in 2013. 


ACTION: JS 

• MP to approach membership with regards to the membership list being on 
the Board wiki. 


ACTION: MP 

• TH to start discussion on the Board mailing list with regards to director 
access to paypal account. 


ACTION: TH 

• TH to change paypal address to pay...@wikimedia.org.uk 


ACTION: TH 

• MP to set previous board members emails to forward to him. 


ACTION: MP 

• SV, MP, JS to collate press response template list 


ACTION: SV, MP + JS 

• ZH to prepare a timeline for WMUK initiatives. 


ACTION: ZH 

• TD agreed to contact the gazette on behalf of WMUK to solicit a pro-bono 
lawyer 


ACTION: TD 

• TH agreed to contact pro bono lawyer groups by email 


ACTION: TH 

Matters arising 


SV agreed to email the WikimediaUK-L Mailing List to solicit views on 
scenarios that could be useful for the press response template mentioned 
above. 

ACTION: SV 

JS to copy the standard templates from OTRS. 

ACTION: JS 

JS has been in contact with WJBScribe, a lawyer who has offered to give 
pro-bono advice to the chapter. JS to clarify if this means formal written 
advice that can be relied upon or informal word of mouth assistance. 

ACTION: JS 

Reports 


Secretary (AT) 


AT has received an email from Steve Bowbrick, the BBC Radio 4 Blog Editor who 
spoke at the AGM regarding collaboration between the BBC and WMUK. SV agreed to 
pursue this as Director of Corporate Relations. 

ACTION: SV 

AT has also received an email from the Open Knowledge Foundation who were lined 
up to speak at the AGM but weren't able to in the end, also regarding possible 
collaboration. JS agreed to follow up. 

ACTION: JS 

Conferences (JS) 


JS had previously emailed the Board regarding the Online Information 2009 (1-3 
Dec, London) conference. They are inviting speakers and although the deadline 
is officially passed they are accepting late submissions. 

The cost to attend is £400/day/person (£400 for the 3 days for registered 
charities). JS will confirm whether speakers have to pay this fee. 

ACTION: JS 

SV is already attending in a work capacity. In the event that speakers do have 
to pay the fee, SV will look into getting a slot in a fringe event

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chapter-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation's board

2009-06-03 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi Tom, 

Yep, it's pretty much the same. 

Since then the focus has been on finishing the 2008/9 selections and then onto 
the chapter agreement. 

This is an attempt to regain momentum on this issue before it becomes urgent. 

Do you have any further thoughts on the 2010 process? 

- Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009 02:16:15 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Chapter-selected seats on the Wikimedia 
 Foundation's board 
 
 2009/6/3 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: 
   
  
  Proposal: 
  
  Every even numbered year the chapters will select two people to take seats 
  on The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) board. The chapters and WMF board agree 
  that these board members are not intended to represent the chapters, they 
  are expected to act in the best interests of the WMF at all times. These 
  selections will be made by 1st July of each year. The following steps will 
  be taken: 
  
  By 1st April: The chapters will appoint a moderator to manage the election. 
  This is intended to be very simple, sometime a few weeks before that date 
  someone should nominate a moderator and if no-one objects (which they 
  should 
  only do if they have a serious problem with the candidate's ability to do 
  the job in an fair and impartial manner) that person will be moderator. The 
  moderator should not be a candidate, but they can participate in the 
  process. The moderator is responsible for keeping the community updated 
  with 
  the progress through this process and will serve as liaison to the WMF 
  board. 
  By 1st May: Chapters will nominate at most two candidates each by supplying 
  the following information on the chapters wiki: 
  
  The name of the nominee 
  The name of the nominating chapter 
  A statement from the chapter in support of the nominee 
  A statement from the nominee in support of themselves, confirming they are 
  willing and eligible to take a seat on the WMF board 
  
  From 1st May to 15th June: The chapters will discuss the candidates on the 
  chapters wiki and will attempt to reach a consensus on which two to select. 
  If, at any time during this period, the moderator feels a consensus has 
  been 
  reached he will clearly state who he/she believes the chapters have chosen 
  and if no chapter has objected after a week, those nominees will be 
  selected 
  and the moderator will inform the WMF board. If a chapter objects, the 
  chapters will go back to discussion. This process can be repeated as many 
  times as appropriate during the period. 
  If no consensus has been reached by 15th June the moderator will announce a 
  vote. Each chapter will vote for two candidates by posting on the chapters 
  wiki and, on 1st July, the moderator will count the votes and the two 
  candidates with the most votes will be selected and the moderator will 
  inform the WMF board. In the event of a tie, the moderator will toss a 
  coin. 
  
  The method(s) used by individual chapters to make any decisions required of 
  them are entirely up to the chapter in question, however chapters are 
  advised that the names of candidates and any discussion and votes are 
  confidential and should be restricted to the chapters wiki. 
 
 That looks absolutely identical to the proposal I put on the chapters 
 wiki during the Berlin meeting (ie. months ago) after the relevant 
 committee there met. What have you been doing since then? 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Announcing GLAM-WIKI in Australia

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
Forwarded below details of another exciting event, this time taking place in 
Canberra, Australia. I don't suppose anyone from the UK is going? 

It would be great to find out how this goes so we can pick up some tips for the 
London/Britain Loves Wikipedia event penciled in for next spring. 

Andrew 

- Forwarded Message - 
From: Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com 
To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) 
interna...@lists.wikimedia.org 
Cc: chapt...@wikimedia.ch 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May, 2009 15:42:21 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
Subject: Re: [Chapters] [Internal-l] Announcing Wiki loves art Netherlands 

Congratulations Hay and the rest of the Dutch team on your innovating work! 
From where I sit it looks like the Dutch are doing a lot of interesting things 
right now - including  Wikiwijs  - I'm jealous of your progress! 

However let me take this opportunity, in the spirit of healthy rivalry between 
Chapters, to announce an even that Wikimedia Australia will be hosting in 
August: 

Ladies and Gentlemen may I present to you the first ever GLAM-WIKI event. 
/fireworks 
G.L.A.M. (in English) stands for galleries, libraries, archives, museums and 
this will be the first time that the cultural sector of any country will come 
together to meet with WIkimedians to discuss how we can better work together. 
Whilst this is specifically looking at the Australian/NewZealand perspective I 
do believe that the discussions we have will be applicable to our two 
communities worldwide. 

You can find out more and download the poster here: glam.wikimedia.org.au 
We will be posting all event videos/slides/outcomes there afterwards. 

The idea is that both the GLAM sector and the Wikimedia community 
instinctively know that they could offer a lot of expertise to the other. So, 
rather than being a conference where one community tells the other what it is 
doing wrong, GLAM-WIKI is designed to be a two-way discussion where we share 
best-practices and each community asks how can we work better with you? This 
is collaborative relationship building. 

And the best bit is... everyone we talk to is very excited about it. Every 
national and State gallery, library, archive and museum we talk to says wow - 
yes, we'll come to that! We need to know about that! They've been told for the 
last decade that they need to be online but no one has come and said Hi - we 
are from the internet and want to work with you and this is how we recommend 
you do it. Equally we as a community have never formally sat down with the 
organisations that are the professional cultural organisations and ask them 
what their experiences, best-practices and expectations are. 

Thanks to the generous support of the Wikimedia Foundation and the Australian 
War Memorial we will be able to run this event with no attendance fee and in 
state-of-the-art facilities. WMF-CPO Jennifer Riggs will be coming out to grace 
us with her presence and the Australian Government representative who is most 
engaged in issues about Open Access, online rights, etc. ( senator Kate Lundy ) 
will be opening. I'm very excited about the range of big names who've said to 
us that they're supportive of this and have agreed to speak and use their 
considerable influence in their field to promote this. 

As part of the goals for each community to be able to take away with them an 
understanding of what they other community wants - and to see if those changes 
can be implemented - we would very much like to have some international 
representation from non-Australian Wikimedia communities. So today Brianna 
Laugher and I drove around the embassy quarter in our capital knocking on 
doors to see who would be interested in sponsoring people from their country to 
fly out here. Not surprisingly none said of course - here's a bag of money 
but many were very interested (especially the Swedish and Dutch actually...). 
If you would like to attend this event - please contact us and maybe we can 
organise a combined approach to your embassy or national culture ministry. 

If there are any questions or suggestions please contact me and we hope that 
some of you might be able to join us in person in Canberra in August. 
Otherwise, join us on Twitter during the event. 

Peace, Love and Metadata! 

-Liam Wyatt 
[[witty lama]] VP Wikimedia Australia 

wittylama.com/blog 
Sent from Canberra, Act, Australia 


On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Hay (Husky)  hus...@gmail.com  wrote: 


Hello everyone, 
here's an update on the Dutch Wiki loves art (WLA) project. This event 
was inspired by previous comparable projects (Wikipedia loves art) in 
the US and Australia (from which we also had some handy tips, thanks 
Liam!) 

The Dutch version of WL A will be organized by Wikimedia Nederland and 
Creative Commons Nederland, with support from the Museumnight 
Foundation, Digital Heritage Netherlands and ISP XS4ALL. 

[snip] 


I hope this answers a few 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
Sorry this should have been using Wikipedia/Wikimedia in Higher Education. 

The overall course is about the use of wikis in general, and they are asking 
one of us to do a particular interview on the use of Wikipedia/Wikimedia in 
universities. 

Regards, 

- Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 
 From: Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 13:23:58 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: 
 Interview request 
 
 2009/5/31 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: 
  We have recently been approached by a company asking for someone to be 
  video 
  interviewed on the subject of how Wikipedia can be used in universities. 
  
  The company is a spin off from Imperial College in London and is partly 
  public owned and partly privately owned. They are currently preparing 
  courses in new technology, which are expected to be used by over 100 higher 
  education institutions around the world. 
 
 Sorry, I'm a little confused - is this using Wikipedia in higher 
 education, or using wikis in higher education? 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: Interview request

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
Could Cormac travel to London do you think? 

- Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: 
 From: Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org 
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 23:20:13 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: 
 Interview request 
 
 
 

Not a Brit, but IIRC Cormac Lawler was doing his PhD on Wikiversity. 



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 [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Turvey 
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 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: 
 Interview request 




Sorry this should have been using Wikipedia/Wikimedia in Higher Education. 
 
 The overall course is about the use of wikis in general, and they are asking 
 one of us to do a particular interview on the use of Wikipedia/Wikimedia in 
 universities. 
 
 Regards, 
 
 - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: 
  From: Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk 
  To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
  Sent: Monday, 1 June, 2009 13:23:58 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
  Portugal 
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Using Wiki software in higher Education: 
  Interview request 
  
  2009/5/31 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com: 
   We have recently been approached by a company asking for someone to be 
   video 
   interviewed on the subject of how Wikipedia can be used in universities. 
   
   The company is a spin off from Imperial College in London and is partly 
   public owned and partly privately owned. They are currently preparing 
   courses in new technology, which are expected to be used by over 100 
   higher 
   education institutions around the world. 
  
  Sorry, I'm a little confused - is this using Wikipedia in higher 
  education, or using wikis in higher education? 
  
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting

2009-05-31 Thread Andrew Turvey
Thanks Mike, that's the one! Sorry I didn't make it more explicit. The details 
of response times etc. are the same as the details in our letter I previously 
typed up here . 

regards, 

Andrew 

- Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: 
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 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 20:37:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting 
 
 Nick Palmer MP had contacted the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, about 
 the issue on behalf of a charity in his constituency that had 
 experienced a delay. 
 
 a charity in his constituency == us. 
 
 Pity they didn't mention us by name... 
 
 Mike 
 
 On 31 May 2009, at 20:30, AGK wrote: 
 
  Andrew: I don't see any reference to WMUK in that article. Did you 
  meant to say it referred to another germane topic, or am I simply 
  being dense? 
  
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