Re: [AFMUG] AT Long Lines

Looks like the list may be removing attachments... Here's the file: http://tengigabit.ca/~eric/ATT_longlines_USA.kmz On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote: > Did the list scrub the attachment? Link maybe? > > Thanks, > Gerard > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

its like I tell my kids about original A root beer tasted allot better when I was kid...also Dr. Pepper tasted better...maybe its me... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I hate to disappoint you

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

I hate to disappoint you Americans but Tim Hortons is terrible. The only thing it has going for it is its huge number of locations. The coffee is worse than McDonalds (yes, really, since McD in Canada buys from a roaster that used to supply Starbucks). About 10-15 years ago Tim Hortons sold

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

A root beer has changed in the last quite few years. It keeps getting more 'soda-ey' insted of 'brew-ey'. But now, you're talking about something which is definitely better in Canada A food is 100% better north of the border. See the menu at www.aw.ca And let's not even start

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

Hmm... this sure doesn't match my experience with "Timmies". But again, I'm not a coffee drinker, and I have a slight addiction to timbits. Thankfully they're only available north of the border. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I hate to disappoint

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

I've heard decent things about the Grandstream DECT phones, but all 2nd hand and never tried them. Anyone have experience with those? A Wired Phone Question: I use mostly Linksys / Cisco wired with good results (good sound quality, good handsets). How does Polycom compare to the standard Cisco

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

Funny, I built this yesterday. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > ROFL … no we just drink beer and pop out of our igloos every so often ;) > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Saturday,

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Lives

That's awesome  On Monday, January 25, 2016, Jeremy wrote: > Funny, I built this yesterday. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Paul Stewart > wrote: > >> ROFL … no we just drink beer and

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

If you are doing BGP, you can setup two routers, each doing bgp to one of the upstreams, and ibgp between the two. This make a lot of sense, from redundancy as well as the ability to do maintenance, without causing an outage. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

Whether or not it's possible, I don't know... but it definitely seems like overkill to me. I would just do one upstream per router and iBGP between them. On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:44 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > I currently have 2 upstream's and only 1 router, planning to add a

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

All up to the upstream, I have seen some, some will allocate one port, then give you a /29 so you can split it. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

The most common scenario is one upstream per router. Run eBGP with your providers, and iBGP between your two edge routers. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:44 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > I currently have 2 upstream's and only 1 router, planning to add a second > router for redundancy, is

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

I would vote for her. Tina, not Sarah ☺ Trump is just Trump. I’m sad America has come to this, where a “Trump” could even be considered for our most highest office in our country. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:34 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Now that's the best candidate I've heard of all year! bp On 1/25/2016 10:34 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Tina Fey for President!!! On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

All of the above. This particular tower has 12 AP's installed. It's physically overloaded and shares spectrum with two other towers in the area. We have several 1x and 2x subs on each AP that need to be improved/removed. According to the capacity planner this may be our best bet in providing some

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Wouldn't you have to change all your APs to 5 ms frame? Really, gotta fix those 1X and 2X subs. Can you add an AP in 5.1 GHz? -Original Message- From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450 All of the above.

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

Obviously the Arby's in Vegas =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I thought Las Vegas was in Nevada? > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Ken, Correct, we would have to make a network wide change to 5ms. That's a bummer and hope to avoid. Our first call to action is to correct/improve SM's with poor links and go from there. I'm considering a move from 75% downlink to 85% downlink as well. Is 5.1 & 5.2 available in the 450

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

I thought Las Vegas was in Nevada? bp On 1/25/2016 11:49 AM, George Skorup wrote: Hit me off list if you can get wireless to these locations. 2791 Lenwood Rd, Barstow, CA 92311 2590 E. Tropicana, Las Vegas, CA 89109

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Very old news... (still a shareholder) From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:53 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones Whoa hold the phone! What happened to Beehive Telephone Company et al? Are you and Pencey no longer one? On Jan 25, 2016 12:47 PM, "Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

What issues did you have with the 6104? Were you using analog trunk lines? I haven't done any yet that weren't sip, but I have one coming up. On 1/25/2016 2:06 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

I believe it is 450i at AP and SM. So it would kind of make sense only to move over some high bandwidth customers and offload the existing AP. -Original Message- From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450 Ken,

[AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to access the cabling. Is this legal?

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

I copied and pasted the info I was provided. Obviously a typo being that the ZIP is correct. On 1/25/2016 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Obviously the Arby's in Vegas =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:54

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

gotcha. we have a tower like that on our network and i'm considering using the new KP performance antennas that you can plug two APs into one antenna. I think we will also change out the APs for 450i this summer to get more PPS etc. i feel your pain. seems like just as we get things upgraded

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Another argument for 30° sectors. Real tight; higher gain; better F/B ratio. bp On 1/25/2016 11:42 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: All of the above. This particular tower has 12 AP's installed. It's physically overloaded and shares spectrum with two other towers in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX (UCM) which had the advantage of zero touch config. Not sure if you are configuring the phones via TFTP or manually. For this customer we did put in one of the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

We use(d) them, Im partial to the Fortinet ones (rebranded 3com I believe) pana anything always has a proprietary blend On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Our VOIP provider pushes these. Few people in our office building have > started using

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Whoa hold the phone! What happened to Beehive Telephone Company et al? Are you and Pencey no longer one? On Jan 25, 2016 12:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones? I have a business office that > doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Yes, 4 FXO's :/ Random crashes/reboots of the unit after a certain firmware. Don't remember the version. This was between 6-12 months ago. Also had quite an echo problem on the FXO's that we couldn't resolve, despite changing volume settings and other things (codecs, etc). Other users reported

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

If the owner of the property agrees it is probably legal. If the owner of the cabling is not a regulated public utility it is probably legal. If it has been wired by a public utility then you should have some rights to use the wiring. Otherwise all bets are off. Be best to negotiate with

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

"Wired" with what? On 1/25/2016 2:12 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: A local provider wired a whole business MDU. We are trying to light up a customer on the premises. They are charging ridiculous fees to access the cabling. Is this legal?

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?

 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I would get your potential new customer to go visit with the owner of the > MDU and explain to them how the monopoly play is harming their ability to > do business with competitors that provide a better value. > > The

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Good to know, I was going to use a 6104 to replace an analog system, maybe I'll look harder at moving it to SIP. On 1/25/2016 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Yes, 4 FXO's :/ Random crashes/reboots of the unit after a certain firmware. Don't remember the version. This was between 6-12 months

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDUaccesscabling?

If you want the buildings burnt down, just blink. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDUaccesscabling? are you saying you need some buildings burned down? Because Im hearing you need

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

You have to use 450i to get 5.1 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Ken, > > Correct, we would have to make a network wide change to 5ms. That's a > bummer and hope to avoid. Our first call to action is to > correct/improve SM's with poor links and go

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anybody know of a BLF app that will run on their desktop? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones What does the grandstream pbx cost? Running asterisk now. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:54 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

We got a call from them for Arizona. I’d ask what they think they are willing to pay before you do it. They were looking for a $60 DSL program up here one time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

Actually, we don't want to use the cabling. We want to use our own... they are forcing us to use it... On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If the owner of the property agrees it is probably legal. > If the owner of the cabling is not a regulated public

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that hasn't been determined. But would probably follow the same rules. On Monday, January 25, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > A local provider wired a

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

owners sent us to them (other provider) On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Why are you listening to them? Or talking to them? Why can't you talk to > the building owner. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?

me either... ill try to get a written permission from the owners/mngmt On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I don’t think they can do that. Especially if the property owner says you > can bypass it. > > *From:* Gino Villarini > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?

I would get your potential new customer to go visit with the owner of the MDU and explain to them how the monopoly play is harming their ability to do business with competitors that provide a better value. The MDU owner will listen to their tenant more than they will listen to you. From:

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDUaccesscabling?

Some buildings require all wiring to be done by a designated wiring contractor. Even just punching down crossconnects in the wiring closets. Sometimes it’s a union thing, but I have run into cases where they wouldn’t even let a union AT tech do it. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, January

[AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxaLOsqTIQw

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

My wife watched Escape from L.A. on Netflix last night. At first I thought she was watching the news. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:59 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President President Vermin Supreme does have a nice

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

maybe she could get Stephen Colbert to be her running mate for Veep. At least with a Fey/Colbert ticket we'd know it's all just jokes and BS. with everyone else who's running i think they actually mean what they say which is very odd and sad. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Sean, I think you're correct. Adding an additional AP will be tough in this particular situation. Just trying to squeeze as much as we can our of this AP. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > If it was me, I'd just deploy another AP instead of trying to tweak

[AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones? I have a business office that doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc. They also want a DECT wireless option. Personally I am OK with AASTRA but in this situation I am trying to make front office folks happy. We will be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Man, the Greandstream UCM platform is *pretty darn good*, but I had some stability issues on the 6104. I really want to like it and for it to work, but it has some quirks. It's stupid easy to use, and sitll lets you drop down and debug asterisk directly. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

What does the grandstream pbx cost? Running asterisk now. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones I recently did an install replacing an old Toshiba PBX and used Grandstream phones, but it was also using a Grandstream PBX

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

6104 is the model we had issues with. I deployed 2160's and 2140's. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones 2140 and 2160. I really > like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything extra. >

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

Just pulling your chain George ;-) bp On 1/25/2016 12:12 PM, George Skorup wrote: I copied and pasted the info I was provided. Obviously a typo being that the ZIP is correct. On 1/25/2016 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Obviously the Arby's in Vegas =P Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

Why are you listening to them? Or talking to them? Why can't you talk to the building owner. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > its cat5 and fiber. We

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling?

I don’t think they can do that. Especially if the property owner says you can bypass it. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:18 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU accesscabling? its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it...

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

We have a handful of their locations here around the Chicago burbs. Their IT folks asked if we could hook them up with a WISP out west since DSL and cable is unavailable and they're still on dial-up at these particular locations. If you can help, please let me know and I'll get you in touch

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

That’s what we are doing, too. We did an additional thing behind the 2 bgp uplink routers: We add another 2 routers which are connected to both BGP-Routers. This allows us to leave the BGP-Routers alone. They do no MPLS, no filtering, … No one logs into them. The 2 routers behind only do

Re: [AFMUG] We brought an antenna to Davos to track private air travel, and here’s what we found - Quartz

So is the tri-lateral commission and the Bilderbergers there too? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:35 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] We brought an antenna to Davos to track private air travel, and here’s what we found - Quartz

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

It's kind of hard to tell the difference... :P On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-endorses-donald-trump-iowa-president-rally-republican-2016-1#ooid=s3MGViMDE6WalVAzxaVCZrjPrVVGfYGy > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

ah manI thought Pat Paulsen would get the nod. I am sorrywe are on opposite sides of this.may your tacos taste like Taco Bell version. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >

[AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Hey folks. Has anyone experimented with 5ms frame on pmp450 or the 450i? Last couple of times I tried it, it seemed like overall throughput on the AP was slightly worse than on 2.5ms, even though radio to radio link tests were higher. peace Vlad

[AFMUG] We brought an antenna to Davos to track private air travel, and here’s what we found - Quartz

http://qz.com/600590/we-brought-an-antenna-to-davos-to-track-private-air-travel-and-heres-what-we-found/

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

I had the same question. I'm considering changing an AP from 2.5ms to 5ms. I'm aware of the doubled latency, but I'm more interested in the additional 7mb/s downlink (according to 450 capacity planner). We have an AP with ~50 subs and it reaches 100% downlink every evening. I'm considering

[AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-endorses-donald-trump-iowa-president-rally-republican-2016-1#ooid=s3MGViMDE6WalVAzxaVCZrjPrVVGfYGy https://youtu.be/0pinZNYxQeo

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

I’m leaning towards Christopher Walken now. [http://star.walagata.com/w/the-salamander/walken2008.jpg] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:42 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

They are both better. You can't make this stuff up. bp On 1/25/2016 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-endorses-donald-trump-iowa-president-rally-republican-2016-1#ooid=s3MGViMDE6WalVAzxaVCZrjPrVVGfYGy

[AFMUG] Last chance....

Last chance to register for the upcoming MTCNA+ Training in Nashville, TN on Feb 1-5, 2016. See http://store.wispgear.net/ for registration and details. Also, don't forget about the IPv6 training coming in March in Louisville, KY. -- Butch Evans Training and Support for WISPs 702-537-0979

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

Ahhh that explains it.. We shall leave it alone then. Vlad On 1/25/2016 9:49 AM, George Skorup wrote: It was discussed somewhere recently, possibly from the Cambium community site. Changing from 2.5 to 5ms cuts the number of control slots in half. That could explain your perceived loss in

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

President Vermin Supreme does have a nice ring to it. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > You can never have too much cowbell. > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 10:43 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

Hard to tell the difference these days. bp On 1/25/2016 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: My wife watched Escape from L.A. on Netflix last night. At first I thought she was watching the news. *From:* Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, January 25,

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

It was discussed somewhere recently, possibly from the Cambium community site. Changing from 2.5 to 5ms cuts the number of control slots in half. That could explain your perceived loss in overall throughput, i.e. not enough control slots. And then if you gain say 10% more bandwidth by going

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy at core router

here is a nice write-up if someone wants to get more ideas on redundancy ! http://robert.penz.name/779/howto-setup-a-redundant-and-secure-bgp-full-table-internet-connection-with-mikrotik-routers/ As the network grows, needing to do maint. tends to be the # 1 reason for a complex redundant

Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President

You can never have too much cowbell. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT-AF officially endorses Vermin Supreme for President I’m leaning towards Christopher Walken now. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

its what I tell my two friends.clown show Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Tina Fey for President!!! On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-endorses-donald-trump-iowa-president-rally-republican-2016-1#ooid=s3MGViMDE6WalVAzxaVCZrjPrVVGfYGy > > https://youtu.be/0pinZNYxQeo > > >

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

If it was me, I'd just deploy another AP instead of trying to tweak the frame for just a little bit more speed. you'll end up back at 100% capacity in no time with the frame tweaks. with adding an AP that should solve the problem for at least a year. 2 cents -Sean On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:51

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Take a look at the higher end Yealink phones. On Jan 25, 2016 11:47 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Anyone used the Panasonic sip phones? I have a business office that > doesn’t like the UBNT products due to the feel of the handset etc. They > also want a DECT wireless option. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

I would just talk to the building owner. They usually have final say on what goes on in their building, including wiring. If they have some special agreement or something with another provider/contractor, then it’s up to them to disclose that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

The people that actually vote were probably busy at work. The people voting for Bernie just sit on Facebook all day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

*shrug* I see no truly viable candidate. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The people that actually vote were probably busy at work. The people voting > for Bernie just sit on Facebook all day. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

nonsense... there's still Vermin Supreme! On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > *shrug* > > I see no truly viable candidate. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > The people that actually vote were

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

I found several law firms with articles like this excerpt: “Notwithstanding the FCC’s Exclusivity Order, MDU owners and service providers are still able to negotiate what are in effect de facto exclusive ROE agreements by several means. Common methods of conferring monopoly status on a

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

it's always a choice between a douche and a turd sandwich man...ALWAYS! https://youtu.be/Pji_IX-UacM On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > *shrug* > > I see no truly viable candidate. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

appears to be a South Park reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better? Is that "turd sandwich, man", or did you really mean

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Why not just have it live TV - call or text your vote. Perhaps some random lottery winnings to every 10,000th voter. Drew Cary can host it. Have some singing and dancing. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Listen... The pet rock guy. He made a million dollars. Let that thought power you throughout the rest of your day. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Why not just have it live TV - call or text your vote. > Perhaps some random lottery winnings to every

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Well, I think it's pretty self explanatory what that job would be. I don't think it would be a very profitable job, but that's probably why he would want to be president instead... On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Is that "turd sandwich, man", or did

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

...must have had... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > haha good catch in regards to my lack of proper comma usage Josh. > > Everyone named Josh must of had

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

haha good catch in regards to my lack of proper comma usage Josh. Everyone named Josh must of had proper sentence structure and grammar brow beaten into them from a young age lol. usually it's Lutheran pointing out mistakes ;-) On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

Several of them manage to be both. bp On 1/25/2016 2:08 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: it's always a choice between a douche and a turd sandwich man...ALWAYS! https://youtu.be/Pji_IX-UacM On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

damn it! that's how i had it originally and then changed it :-/ good catch Josh!!! On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > ...must have had... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

You're talking to the wrong person. I went through Kentucky Public Schools, so I have roughly the same education as an Aboriginal Bush-Child, but I lack their real world usefulness. I was just overly excited when I thought I learned that "turd sandwich man" was a position that someone could

Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better?

I hear banjos... -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT- Which one did it better? You're talking to the wrong person. I went through Kentucky Public Schools, so I have roughly the same education as an

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

is adding an AP physically tough (tower space, winter time etc.) or logically tough (not enough spectrum)? just curious On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Sean, I think you're correct. Adding an additional AP will be tough in > this particular

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

Our VOIP provider pushes these. Few people in our office building have started using them. Seems to work pretty well with Broadsoft. I'm still stuck on my Cisco 7960. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:47

[AFMUG] Looking for service out west

Hit me off list if you can get wireless to these locations. 2791 Lenwood Rd, Barstow, CA 92311 2590 E. Tropicana, Las Vegas, CA 89109

Re: [AFMUG] OT Sip Phones

I've been very happy with the Grandstream phones 2140 and 2160. I really like that the 2160 has the sidecar built in, no need to add anything extra. Only have had 1 failure so far. Phone had the display go out. RMA'd without an issue. While finding a hefty piece of wood to knock on, I

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for service out west

Las Vegas,NM as well Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:12 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I copied and pasted the info I was provided. Obviously a typo being that > the ZIP is correct. > > On 1/25/2016 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

its cat5 and fiber. We want to bypass it... but cable owner says we "have" to use it On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Phone and coax are owned by the property no matter who installed it. > > Fiber and cat5/6 Ethernet is still kind of a grey area that

Re: [AFMUG] Can a provider have exclusive rights to MDU access cabling?

Last statement is best to avoid any path to end user issues. On 01/25/2016 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: If the owner of the property agrees it is probably legal. If the owner of the cabling is not a regulated public utility it is probably legal. If it has been wired by a public utility then

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