Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread George Skorup
I ordered some generic 1G 20km SFPs from FS a couple weeks ago. Got the shipping notification. Shipped from WA. Cool, guess they're stock some stuff state side now. Got them and they're labeled 10km and Cisco. After a little bit of back and forth with the rep, we used them as is. In case

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread George Skorup
George #1 was a barber. Came over early 1900's. George #2 says #1 was Austrian. My dad (#3) always argued with his dad because #1's papers said Hungary. Nobody knows what the real story is. My mom's dad and his parents and grandparents are nearly full blooded German. Yeah, all that German from

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Cameron Crum
Good bunch of guys who seem to know their stuff. The have a partner arrangement with a DC in Denver they hooked us up with. It's been good for us. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I only talked with the sales guy, who obviously was an engineer himself. >

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Used 2.4 Ghz Links with T1 ability

2017-03-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Guy in Vegas sells used Western Multiplex radiosI will see if I can find his numberI gave a pair to ham radio club a year or so ago On Mar 21, 2017 10:09 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Paul, you might check some of the older Proxim gear or just offload to a > T-1

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Used 2.4 Ghz Links with T1 ability

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Paul, you might check some of the older Proxim gear or just offload to a T-1 converter and make sure you have QOS. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WTB: Used 2.4 Ghz Links with T1

Re: [AFMUG] SCADA testing

2017-03-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Influent is correct.. Unless you were being sarcastic...This is an Arsenic Treatment Facility... On Mar 21, 2017 9:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Some guy used a marker to write an L and H on enclosureWater tech > grafitti > > On Mar 21, 2017 8:46 PM, "Robert"

Re: [AFMUG] SCADA testing

2017-03-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Some guy used a marker to write an L and H on enclosureWater tech grafitti On Mar 21, 2017 8:46 PM, "Robert" wrote: > I am guessing here that Insies aren't supposed to equal outsies... But > then again this is a wireless list and I'm betting most of us don't have a

Re: [AFMUG] SCADA testing

2017-03-21 Thread Robert
I am guessing here that Insies aren't supposed to equal outsies... But then again this is a wireless list and I'm betting most of us don't have a clue what you are complaining about...Like asking the effluent guy what channel to set the AP to... On 3/21/17 4:06 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] SCADA testing

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
It’s affluent, not influent. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:06 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SCADA testing All this technology at subsecond response time...Multi million dollars invested...And some technician does thisYa rajul On Mar 21, 2017 9:27 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
It's not a problem because they also sell cisco branded optics. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Huawei's only allows Cisco-branded optics. They couldn't figure out how to > edit that part of the code out. > > Joking, joking, jeez > > > > - > Mike

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Huawei's only allows Cisco-branded optics. They couldn't figure out how to edit that part of the code out. Joking, joking, jeez - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
LOL if they did... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:49:21 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread George Skorup
I assume ZTE doesn't care about SFP branding? On 3/21/2017 7:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds > wrote: Seriously though... Alphion

Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Craig Schmaderer
I will try to remember to take a picture of it tomorrow and ask the guys. I own so many things now I don't even know how to turn it own. From: Af on behalf of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
The only time I saw a problem was when the landlord was itemizing and charging for it separately. I've seen it done that way twice, and both times they had the exact problems you describe. Just like electric and gas, if they just say it's included but don't specify the cost then people don't

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Paul McCall
I only talked with the sales guy, who obviously was an engineer himself. Their seems to be a ton of knowledge there Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback We

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Darin Steffl
We haven't used them yet but the introduction call with a sales guy then nearly an hour long call with an engineer left me feeling warm and fuzzy. We'll likely use them for some large projects coming up. They seem to know what's going on and probably know mikrotik and test it more than most

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck Hogg
It's not open standard. They key their optics like calix. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:11 AM Josh Reynolds wrote: > Seriously though... Alphion obviously doesn't have the level of software > toys/tools that Calix does obviously, but when the cost is like 1/8th, you > can

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Most HOAs are pretty heavy handed. If they decide internet is a service they provide, there really isn’t much the resident can do about it. Not sure you can say anything. Either they do it or they don’t. If you cut them a discount but they charge the resident full fare, then it is a

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Right, but if I'm trying to get a deal with the HOA\MDU and they have those concerns, how do I address them to their satisfaction to get the deal? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
That's the objective. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:43:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Stay out of it. If internet is included in the rent and they get it from you, I presume the HOA or owner of the MDU pays the bill. So your deal is not really with the end user. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] For MDUs... How do

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Paul McCall
Hmmm... they claim 35 consultants on staff... you have had problems Sterling? Can you tell me more? Offlist, if need be From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Gino Villarini
If you go Ebay/Alibaba its about $2500 for 8 port olt and $30 for ONU From: Af > on behalf of Adam Moffett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date:

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Baird
Yes - we use the 'Juniper' [1] SFP with Netonix frequently. [1] http://www.fs.com/products/13274.html On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:44 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > Have you tried any of these with a Netonix? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird

Re: [AFMUG] test

2017-03-21 Thread Vlad Sedov
nope, nothing here vlad On 3/21/2017 5:49 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: *//* */Gino Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[AFMUG] test

2017-03-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread SmarterBroadband
Have you tried any of these with a Netonix? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ?? I'm successfully using all of these with MT: 1G:

Re: [AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Do you have an agreement that the MDU/HOA pays you for internet, not the end user? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] For MDUs... How do you guys or your clients handle tenants that complain

[AFMUG] For MDUs...

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
How do you guys or your clients handle tenants that complain that they don't want to pay for Internet with their rent or that they want the value of the Internet deducted from their rent? How do you handle owners that are reluctant because of those kinds of tenants? - Mike

Re: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Other than I can never get them to contact me? Nope. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback Anybody have good or bad experience with these folks in the area of Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
I didn't realize that the 410sx had that option. Is it very difficult to attach/remove? On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > We have a 410sx works good. Also have the backhoe atchment it comes in > handy. I plan on getting a r300 quad track plow for

Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Craig Schmaderer
We have a 410sx works good. Also have the backhoe atchment it comes in handy. I plan on getting a r300 quad track plow for microduct next year. From: Af on behalf of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:26:16 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
Exactly. I apparently have very tender skin on my face, and could not avoid cutting myself pretty much daily; even with a Norelco shaver. I swore that when I didn't have to shave anymore, I would stop it immediately, and I did.  Lucky for me, that's just the way my Sweetie likes it. In fact,

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Alphion. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 3/21/2017 5:15:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON Who did you get the Alphion quote through? On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I have fond memories of December 1976... oh man she was cute From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops I haven't shaved since December 12, 1976. Getting a shave from anyone would not be something that I would seek

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
So was that date when uncle Sam cut you loose? From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops I haven't shaved since December 12, 1976. Getting a shave from anyone would not be something that I would seek out. I get a haircut

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Jay Weekley
When I was a kid I loved going to our towns only barbershop because of the hot shaving cream, straight razor shave and hot towel. Chuck McCown wrote: In St. George, Utah today. Trade show. Need a haircut real bad. Google barber shops. First one closed, vacant. Second one closed vacant.

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
Who did you get the Alphion quote through? On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Adam Moffett wrote: > So how much are you guys paying for this ZTE stuff? > > I just got a quote from Alphion and it's really not bad. I signed an NDA, > so I can't tellbut the single port CPE is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
I haven't shaved since December 12, 1976. Getting a shave from anyone would not be something that I would seek out. I get a haircut every month or two, or three sometimes. It's not that important. -bp On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would go

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
You've taken this to a dark place. -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 3/21/2017 4:31:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops Ok. I have heard​ of guys bringing a young thing home or even a maid with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I would go for a shave every day. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:31 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops Ok. I have heard​ of guys bringing a young thing home or even a maid with extended responsibility.But never a barberKinda like a personal

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
So how much are you guys paying for this ZTE stuff? I just got a quote from Alphion and it's really not bad. I signed an NDA, so I can't tellbut the single port CPE is very close to an RB260 + SFP. -- Original Message -- From: "Gino Villarini" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Should. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Andreas Wiatowski" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:23:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store -

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Baird
I'm successfully using all of these with MT: 1G: http://www.fs.com/products/13274.html http://www.fs.com/products/22138.html http://www.fs.com/products/39418.html 10G: http://www.fs.com/products/11591.html On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ok. I have heard​ of guys bringing a young thing home or even a maid with extended responsibility.But never a barberKinda like a personal ball washerYou went up 5 points in bitchin dude scale On Mar 21, 2017 1:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: In St. George, Utah today.

Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I never found the drill attachment on the Ditch Witch to be very useful. I have used the maxi sneaker many times. They used to be terribly top heavy. I rolled one on a side hill once. Mini excavators are nice for start and end holes. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
So if I buy the cisco rated ones they should work too?? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4238 x-600 http://www.silowireless.com Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV _ The contents of this email message and

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Mikrotik doesn't lock their devices in any way, so an optic coded to any brand should work just as well as any other. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Andreas Wiatowski"

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
I've been using the generic and they work fine. On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: > Is there a particular SKU that is Mikrotik compatible at FS.com?? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andreas Wiatowski, CEO > > Silo Wireless Inc. > > 1-866-727-4238 x-600 > >

[AFMUG] IPArchitects - feedback

2017-03-21 Thread Paul McCall
Anybody have good or bad experience with these folks in the area of Mikrotik consulting? Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net www.pdmnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yeah. I have one within a couple miles. All women. I was very skeptical but every one have them have been first rate with a straight razor. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:09 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > In St. George, Utah today. Trade show. Need a haircut real bad. Google > barber

[AFMUG] Fiber Store - Mikrotik compatible SFP's ??

2017-03-21 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Is there a particular SKU that is Mikrotik compatible at FS.com?? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4238 x-600 http://www.silowireless.com Wireless | Fibre | VoIP | PBX | IPTV _ The contents of this email

[AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get. The options, as I see them, are the Vermeer LM42, Ditch Witch 410SX, or Case Maxi Sneaker. I'll be using this for customer drops as well as some main-runs. I like the mini excavator attachment for the LM42, although I don't know how limiting

[AFMUG] WTB: Used 2.4 Ghz Links with T1 ability

2017-03-21 Thread Paul McCall
We are looking for some used 2.4 Ghz gear that will do a T1 as part of the link. We are looking for the connectorized radios only (no dishes needed) Thought maybe someone had some old "stuff" sitting in the corner that they might want to part with. I need possible 3 links. Paul Paul McCall,

[AFMUG] OT Barber Shops

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
In St. George, Utah today. Trade show. Need a haircut real bad. Google barber shops. First one closed, vacant. Second one closed vacant. Hmmm Third real barber shop, two guys, looks like perhaps a half hour wait. After a minute or two the barber asked if my name was on the wall. I

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Yup, that's what we did... I would've just used the Ubiquiti dishes, had they been available. It's just a question of how many AF11's end up replacing old 11ghz links vs new links, or replacing other stuff. If I had been replacing an 11ghz link and already had dishes in place, I most certainly

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
You have both the dish cost and the cost of the tower work to swap out the dishes. Where an adapter for an existing dish seems to be less resistance to me. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products? I bet most AF11

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
And even more thanks. From: Kevin Neal Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff https://www.platt.com/platt-electric-supply/Pole-Stand-Offs/Stand-Offs-Diamond-Base/search.aspx?SectionID=14=184=7244=7245 On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks From: Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff http://www.hubbellpowersystems.com/pole-line/riser/brackets/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:39 PM

Re: [AFMUG] PTP450 Rx level SNMP?

2017-03-21 Thread Colin Stanners
On March 18th Bill said Horizontal:.1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.2.117.0 Vertical: .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.2.118.0 on March 19th I said Try .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.1.4.1.34.2 or .35.2 for either polarization. It's not like it changes every day! On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Keefe John
I'd buy it. On March 21, 2017 9:24:21 AM CDT, Chuck McCown wrote: >Kinda. Did a session at AnimalFarm about it. Not sure if I will >release it or not. I have adapters for DragonWave, Remec, Exalt and >SAF dishes. But there did not seem to be much enthusiasm. > >From: Josh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
tnx From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:38 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff Karma dude.. I am parked 10 ft from it... On Mar 21, 2017 11:26 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: Someone posted a photo here about a product that allows unistrut

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Bill Prince
I bet most AF11 buyers are taking the path of least resistance, and just using the Jirous dishes. On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:56 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: I'm interested in adapters. But we haven't gotten to that point in time yet. I think you have to give

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff

2017-03-21 Thread Andy Trimmell
http://www.hubbellpowersystems.com/pole-line/riser/brackets/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:39 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pole standoff Karma dude.. I am parked 10 ft from it... On Mar 21, 2017 11:26

[AFMUG] PTP450 Rx level SNMP?

2017-03-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has the OID for the RX level on BH Master? Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Budgeting for Make Ready

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
Depends on the power company. I've drove the cable route with one of the power company's staking engineers to make sure I didn't get caught with anything too unexpected. On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Adam Moffett wrote: > In one 2 mile long rural fiber project, we had a

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm interested in adapters. But we haven't gotten to that point in time yet. I think you have to give it more time before you see more orders... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 21, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I can convert a rectangular feed

[AFMUG] Budgeting for Make Ready

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Moffett
In one 2 mile long rural fiber project, we had a $10,000 make ready issue. On a 2 mile run, that's a significant portion of the whole job cost. Do you drive the route and look for issues yourself during the planning phase, or do you assume there will be some value per mile of make ready?

[AFMUG] OT Pole standoff

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Someone posted a photo here about a product that allows unistrut to be attached to a pole. I think it may have been a Hubble product. Can someone point me to this again please? I have a customer that wants to know where to buy that product.

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I can convert a rectangular feed horn to round and then to connectorized. But I have to have the feedhorn so that means the link goes down until the conversion is complete. From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread George Skorup
I've said all along, it's probably easiest to convert a Remec round interface, i.e. Trango ApexPlus and ApexLynx, of course ApexLynx is new enough that you probably wouldn't replace it with an AF11. And we have a metric shitload of ApexPlus deployed on Trango OEM dishes and Radiowaves

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Can be routed or switched. The end result simply needs to be 40Gbps with lower speeds optional in harsh weather with minimal latency. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I can do the Remec adapter, but you will still need a circular nose on the antenna. From: Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products? Yeah - it's in service unfortunately. They are Remnec. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:17 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - it's in service unfortunately. They are Remnec. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Could do. I have done lots of replacement and oddball feedhorns. Is that > dish currently in service? I would need to have the current feedhorn for > about a half

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
The PTP800 is a Remec mount, is it not? From: Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products? So - we are looking for an adapter that will allow us to re-use our single polarity Commscope dishes (currently with PTP-800 radios).

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Could do. I have done lots of replacement and oddball feedhorns. Is that dish currently in service? I would need to have the current feedhorn for about a half hour to make sure I have the dimensions down correctly. From: Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:00 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Baird
So - we are looking for an adapter that will allow us to re-use our single polarity Commscope dishes (currently with PTP-800 radios). Anything up your sleeve for that? On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Kinda. Did a session at AnimalFarm about it. Not

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
That was an Accedian product. So you need 40Gbps... at a minimum of 8x10Gbps at each end. I think MikroTik has an 8 port 10Gbps CCR, but I don't have any experience with it. Can the hop be routed, or must it be switched? On Mar 21, 2017 9:50 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Josh, what was that product that you used to rep? I actually need 40Gbps across 1 hop with four 10Gbps radios. Just need to figure out the best way to do it. Kevin Myers just posted this on Facebook.

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Nate Burke
Speaking as the guy who doesn't write the checks, it seems that a Couple hundred $$ per end would be reasonable if we save the time and expense of having to change the physical dish. Nate On 3/21/2017 9:42 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Dual pol feedhorn design and waveguide theory. I could do a

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Right. If you need a 10G+ stream, you'll need in-radio bonding. If you just need 10+ Gbps of traffic, there are multiple ways to do that. On Mar 21, 2017 9:38 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined. Some radio > vendors do

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Dual pol feedhorn design and waveguide theory. I could do a feedhorn for our product. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products? What was in the session? We have a pile of WBMFG Dishes running 5ghz feedhorns today, we'd

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Apparently this problem is more difficult than I imagined. Some radio vendors do this but apparently not all. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps

Re: [AFMUG] How does someone join AFMUIG?

2017-03-21 Thread Rory Conaway
Thanks Chuck. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How does someone join AFMUIG? Like join the mailing list? Look in the header. List-Archive:

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Nate Burke
What was in the session? We have a pile of WBMFG Dishes running 5ghz feedhorns today, we'd love to be able to just swap the Feedhorn and upgrade links to 11X without having to change the dishes. Nate On 3/21/2017 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Kinda. Did a session at AnimalFarm about it.

Re: [AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Kinda. Did a session at AnimalFarm about it. Not sure if I will release it or not. I have adapters for DragonWave, Remec, Exalt and SAF dishes. But there did not seem to be much enthusiasm. From: Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] New

[AFMUG] New WBMFG products?

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Baird
Hiya Chuck, I seem to remember you talking about announcing something new for the AF11x? Did this ever happen? Any other new products that were announced at WISPAmerica this year? Josh

Re: [AFMUG] How does someone join AFMUIG?

2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Like join the mailing list? Look in the header. List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:26

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
He can't deploy a product that's not released, homie. Even then, it's still brand new. Always best to let others air out the bugs unless you did some of the testing yourself and know what to expect ;) On Mar 21, 2017 8:19 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Your not watching of my

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
https://youtu.be/FY4HsRTmllA?t=9m45s Right, it's not yet available. You could be right on the port availability. I've asked them for clarification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Your not watching of my videos has failed you. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:15:39 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
I wouldn't use switches if given an option. I'd try to find a small router with a pair of 10Gbps ports, use two of those devices (one radio on each router) and setup OSPF ECMP. This gives you hardware HA On Mar 20, 2017 11:30 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Lots of options

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's not listed on their website I don't believe. Neither of the currently listed options mention trill in the data sheet. On Mar 21, 2017 6:41 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Josh Reynolds
Both the switches listed on their website have 4x10 uplinks. On Mar 21, 2017 8:03 AM, wrote: > I thought that Ignitenet switch only came with one 10G port? And that it's > not yet available? > > Jared > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 > From: "Mike Hammett"

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread fiberrun
I thought that Ignitenet switch only came with one 10G port? And that it's not yet available? Jared     Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL

Re: [AFMUG] Question on APC Arresters

2017-03-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
This is as good of a place to stick this as any. In my opinion, if a cable overcurrent caused by a tripping surge suppressor can blow an injector, then something is not right in the injection circuitry, not the surge suppressor. There are a few cable faults one cannot protect against. This is

Re: [AFMUG] How does someone join AFMUIG?

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:26:19 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Best switch for bonding dual 10Gbps radio links

2017-03-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd look at IgniteNet's new TRILL switch. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:30:07 PM Subject: