[AFMUG] Today on ISP Radio

2016-02-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
Today on ISP Radio.com we will be discussing Form 477 and TowerCoverage.com. The live show starts at 11am CST. Thanks, [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 x103 - dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
We use nothing but these anymore. These are maybe bigger than you asked, but most of the time we drop in a two or three rackmount units, plus some power or something on the backplate. http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=506=0 Also, all of our new shinny towers in the

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas. On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > > http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th

Re: [AFMUG] Odd situation

2016-02-10 Thread Glen Waldrop
Rural customer. Just about the only neighbor that could have gotten on their WIFI just died in their early 90s. No idea. I think it is just a 100% misdiagnosis by non-IT guys. I’m trying to get the info myself. >From what I’ve been able to put together it sounds like someone has their >login

[AFMUG] Details on deploying the PMP 450i with other PMP equipment

2016-02-10 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
It appears that the "Register Once then Download" isn't really register once. I registered a few weeks ago, but now I must register again to access the 450i 900 stuff. No big deal except I get {"code":"MethodNotAllowedError","message":"GET is not allowed"} after I hit submit. Are you out

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
a monopole on every block is a basic human right On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I know AT is banking on this for non uverse areas. > On Feb 10, 2016 2:45 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Odd situation

2016-02-10 Thread David
Sounds like a typical compromised email account with a trojan running the whole thing. Secure email account then disinfect machine with lysol and should be good LOL On 02/10/2016 10:31 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote: Rural customer. Just about the only neighbor that could have gotten on their WIFI

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie
These look like bison profab enclosures... With a markup. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Dennis Burgess wrote: > We use nothing but these anymore. These are maybe bigger than you asked, > but most of the time we drop in a two or three rackmount units, plus some >

Re: [AFMUG] Odd situation

2016-02-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i have my money on the hijacked device, maybe the pc was infected, and infected the device, and it has since migrated to their satellite connection. Is his satellite connection still active (maybe not being used, but service active to the home)? On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:35 PM, David

Re: [AFMUG] Odd situation

2016-02-10 Thread David
Thats why the account should be secured first. Then worry about backlash. Once the account is shutdown then the outgoing spam will stop. Use log to track all denied addresses and dump them into a dns blackhole. On 02/10/2016 12:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: “From their account” and “from their IP”

Re: [AFMUG] Odd situation

2016-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
“From their account” and “from their IP” are usually separate things. Probably need to determine if someone actually determined it was from their IP, or just assumed that. It used to be common to plant a spambot on a compromised computer, but so many ISPs block outbound traffic to port 25

Re: [AFMUG] 50% repair trade

2016-02-10 Thread Paul McCall
It doesn’t make sense for us to do that on 100/430 series equipment. However, we do still accept that on 450 SMs. Paul, PDMNet From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50% repair trade

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
I use it for OOB management. I wouldn't recommend it for backup unless you have a sweet Sprint plan. Even an hour would be dozens of gigabytes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] 50% repair trade

2016-02-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we just have a bunch of older gear 2/3/4/500 series ptp stuff thats been collected over the years, probably not alot of value in them On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > It doesn’t make sense for us to do that on 100/430 series equipment. > However, we do

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
low hanging fruit customers and plenty of gubmint monies, anything can be done if you subsidize it heavily enough, maybe throw another 10 bucks a barrel on gass so we can have self driving cars with gigabit to the car, having gigabit connectivity to netflix in your car you arent driving is also a

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Baird
I would probably look at the Minifort enclosures if I'm going to spend that much (and I need rackmount). > On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > These look like bison profab enclosures... With a markup. > >> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016,

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Sam Kirsch
Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector and ran LMR to the roof. Hope that helps. -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 |

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
On a more serious note. Has anyone used a cellular data device connected to a tik for backup? On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:04 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > low hanging fruit customers and plenty of gubmint monies, anything can be > done if you subsidize it heavily

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was? I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

2016-02-10 Thread Paul Stewart
In our case it’s really hard to say .. we just seen generally higher traffic on all fronts – wasn’t narrowed down to anything in particular (ie. Windows updates, Apple updates, major streaming event etc) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
yum still does the whole package... Do you know Windows 10 is a standard update now? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Microsoft certainly pushed out a big

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Andrew 1/2 Heliax On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was? > I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

2016-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Microsoft certainly pushed out a big Windows Update yesterday. My wife complained about the fan noise from my laptop interfering with her TV watching. Windows Update Manager had the CPU pegged for a couple hours I think (for Win7 no less). But that’s not really unusual for Patch Tuesday. I

Re: [AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm not sure how they think this is going to work anywhere but very specific areas. I could see a use for this type of equipment, but it would have to be orders of magnitude cheaper than it is. That is with my expectations as well - not a big company like AT On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, That

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I assumed that was sarcasm. Or maybe I mean hyperbole. In any case, I don’t think he was serious. I hope not. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I prefer HeliaxI use LMR for pigtails but rarelywe also use Andrew superflex On Feb 10, 2016 5:16 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is > much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread George Skorup
Now you have me thinking. I recall getting another quote for the 24x16 or 24x18 or whatever it was. Maybe $450 or so. I got worried about the shorter one not being able to get the battery capacity I wanted with all of the other gear taking up so much room, and a secondary battery-only

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Do you have a reason to prefer it? Most people who have little experience will end up damaging heliax or leaving slivers on the dialectical face causing issues. Besides, if you are running it inside a building, LMR600 is much less likely to be damaged. 1/2" is at least 75 cents more foot. Unless

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Personal preference... having installed thousands and thousands feet of it since 1993have the tools for prepping cablesthe connectors install correctly will not come off by pulling or yanking them. LMR feels like RG 58 thicker brother.I have used LMR when supplied by client. I can

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey Lewiswe did use a bunch of Huber Suhner cable assemblies and antennas when we created the MPAA 9004 90 degree panels with combiner back in NCR WaveLAN days...we sold about 150 to a Columbian integrator for a bank project.. wish I could find pictures of it. Anyways that was really

[AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence

2016-02-10 Thread TJ Trout
What Is the process to get a 365 license and start working an area with current licensees already in the same footprint ? Just register for the license, register the ap and try not to be on the same channel as someone else? Essentially the same as ISM/UNIII but you pay a fee and put your name in a

[AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

2016-02-10 Thread TJ Trout
It seems as if the telrad discussions have gone cold, seriously looking at it for a new deployment but wanted to get some feedback from current users, Gino? Etc They have priced me out at about 45k for 4 radios, 4 sectors and the basic EPC. $285 for the CPE. This is a fortune compared to anything

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence

2016-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
The FCC stopped issuing NN licenses around April of last year. You would have to find a way to acquire one from an existing license holder. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence What Is the process to get a

[AFMUG] Question: AT cellular coverage at your towers.

2016-02-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
A quick question for those on the list: Can I get a quick idea of roughly what percentage of everyone's tower locations are covered with enough AT service that you could do either basic data or send/receive text messages? If you'd like to be even more helpful, you could also let me know the

[AFMUG] 5G to the home

2016-02-10 Thread Rory Conaway
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031008/5g-might-be-your-next-home-broadband-service.html?#tk.rss_all Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net

[AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Tim Reichhart
what are you guys using for weatherproof enclosure? I am looking for one that can host an small miktroik router and 4-6 poes with cable what do you guys say to use?

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Baird
We have been using these lately: http://www.enclosurehub.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=923 We also use the metal enclosures from Saginaw, but they are much heavier. Josh On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > what are you

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
I think I'm going to largely use Saginaw going forward. I didn't realize they were as close as they were. On these larger items shipping always ends up being ridiculous, but if I can send someone to go pick it up even better. Enclosure large enough for anything I'd ever need for $200.

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Baird
Enclosure Hub shipping isn't too bad. I just looked and we paid $35 for shipping last order which contained: Qty: 4 20 x 16 x 8 - Quick Release Latch Flat Cover I don't have a Saginaw invoice handy, but I don't remember them being too bad either (they are close to us as well). If you want to

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
That's why WAV, Baltic and CTI get most of my business, they're all nearby. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
Ahhh. So John Chambers is just an older incarnation of Martin Shkreli? bp On 2/10/2016 5:26 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Yea. Cisco is another company that realized they could leverage their name by buying some crap, slapping a logo on it, and jacking the price. They

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
It's $250 new :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 10, 2016 8:05 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > Are we still talking about a GPS cable for a $100 femtocell??!? > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
But it probably costs Verizon $25... bp On 2/10/2016 6:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It's $250 new :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 10, 2016 8:05 PM, "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
No rust on the Alaskan coastline so far. On Feb 10, 2016 7:02 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > That actually doesn't look too bad. Is that plain aluminum or an alloy? > Wonder how it would hold up in our coastal environment? > > We've had the best luck with fiberglass/composite

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Ehh I don't know about that... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 10, 2016 9:50 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > But it probably costs Verizon $25... > > bp > > > > On 2/10/2016 6:43

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

2016-02-10 Thread Chuck McCown
She was sitting on his lap at the time... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night Either your wife has exceptional hearing and leaves the TV at a very low volume, or your laptop is a beast :) I'm loving my

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread George Skorup
I have a quote from Bison for the 24x24" rack version with universal tower/pole mount brackets. Over $700. So I don't think Dennis is doing much mark-up, if any. Just wanted to point that out. On 2/10/2016 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I was thinking the same thing On Feb 10, 2016 1:43 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ours were bare aluminum, no fans, nothing fancy. On Feb 10, 2016 5:53 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > My quote was in that neighborhood as well. It has been a while since I > checked though. > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie
My quote had a breakdown of the different elements, it wasn't much difference for the base unit though. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Ours were bare aluminum, no fans, nothing fancy. > On Feb 10, 2016 5:53 PM, "Jason McKemie"

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Looks like they've gone up a LOT. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, George Skorup wrote: > Here's what I got last year. > > On 2/10/2016 6:05 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > > My quote had a breakdown of the different elements, it wasn't much > difference for the base unit though.

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, I think it's way too expensive and we never pulled the trigger on them. On 2/10/2016 6:13 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Looks like they've gone up a LOT. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, George Skorup > wrote: Here's what I got last year.

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
I was thinking the same thing On Feb 10, 2016 1:43 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > These look like bison profab enclosures... With a markup. > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Dennis Burgess > wrote: > >> We use nothing but these

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Jason McKemie
My quote was in that neighborhood as well. It has been a while since I checked though. On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Uh, I remember paying $400ish for one 24x19x24, with rail. 2 was $900ish > after shipping to Alaska. > > Have they really gone up

Re: [AFMUG] Surprise BW Last night

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Either your wife has exceptional hearing and leaves the TV at a very low volume, or your laptop is a beast :) I'm loving my new laptop. Skylake i7, only 15W TDP. On Feb 10, 2016 4:05 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Microsoft certainly pushed out a big Windows Update yesterday. My

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
Uh, I remember paying $400ish for one 24x19x24, with rail. 2 was $900ish after shipping to Alaska. Have they really gone up that much??? On Feb 10, 2016 5:31 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I have a quote from Bison for the 24x24" rack version with universal > tower/pole mount

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's the same model we bought two of it looks like, but ours don't have the brackets on the back. On Feb 10, 2016 6:09 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Here's what I got last year. > > On 2/10/2016 6:05 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > > My quote had a breakdown of the different

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'm thinking about our boxes now, they may not be 24x24. Probably more like 18" tall. Searching through Google drive pics... On Feb 10, 2016 6:13 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Looks like they've gone up a LOT. > > On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per frequency range. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Andrew 1/2 Heliax > On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
I could have said I like the hardness of it with ribbed feel but it's Ash Wednesday and I am going to give up racy jokes and sky diving for Lent.ducking On Feb 10, 2016 5:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Personal preference... having installed thousands and

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Haha, regarding no one ever got fired for buying Cisco. I was helping a customer today figure out a remote site we don’t serve, he was on the phone and sending me photos of what their corporate IT had set up. There was a shiny new Cisco 1921 router in the rack connected to a Westell box on

Re: [AFMUG] weatherproof enclosure

2016-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
That actually doesn't look too bad. Is that plain aluminum or an alloy? Wonder how it would hold up in our coastal environment? We've had the best luck with fiberglass/composite enclosures, but diamond plate aluminum has held up well too. bp On 2/10/2016 4:09

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Is it possible that you are mistaken about this (being a diaup router etc..) It is not un-common to have a 'managed' t1 router deployed with a OOB dial-up modem connection. Cisco router being used as an MPLS managed end-point, or a firewall / vpn etc. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea, I have been installing connectors on it since 1975. When you do install thousands have the right to for both, lmr600 still is faster with just as good and solid a connector. Multiply the time savings by a few hundred connections on a job and it really adds up. But, kind of like Cisco. Nobody

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
Never have been a fan of Cisco folksnot all...but most think they walk on water.. I am taking more to wireless side of Cisco On Feb 10, 2016 6:01 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Haha, regarding no one ever got fired for buying Cisco. I was helping a > customer today figure out a

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
Are we still talking about a GPS cable for a $100 femtocell??!? bp On 2/10/2016 4:16 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per frequency

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"

2016-02-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea. Cisco is another company that realized they could leverage their name by buying some crap, slapping a logo on it, and jacking the price. They never realized there are a bunch of people that then think a lot less of the brand. Kind of like Black They used to make strictly great stuff decades